Mistress of flame?

>>11720256
might get this guy whenever he drops, he looks fun

>>11720250
>>11720256
Monstructor > Slopticus

>>11720250
Bruticus, it's got more play value than a bunch of compromised bricks that barely transform.

>>11720250
CWcels claim to hate frame combiners and can't stop using le epic "slop" term for them but yet also can't stop from making new threads starring them in the OP pic.

>>11720250
Bruticus, if only 'cuz the individuals are actually pretty neat (or at least the two I have, Vortex and Brawl, are). Combined mode looks, eh, fine. Monstructor is a disaster.

>>11720256
The original Dinobots/Volcanicus mold is poorly designed, resulting in the terrible Dinoking and this Monstructor. The combined mode suffers from kibble hindering articulation and involves a lot of parts-forming.

The last good Core/Legends class combiners I can think of are POTP Battletrap and T30 Centuritron.

>>11720250
I had a mild interest in getting one of the frames before seeing this picture. They really all suck, don’t they?

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>>11720233
>him just being camo tryp isn’t going to be as good as him being part tank
In that case, I propose they redesign him as a literal dragon tank, a la Tankdramon.

>>11720349
>They really all suck, don’t they?
On the contrary, they're all nice and sturdy and look quite nice together.
I hope they do the Protectobots within the next couple years so I can add Defensor (excuse me, DEFENSLOP) to my growing framechad collection.

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>>11720350
With the horn still, and him being a literal tank dragon thing is also a double-reference to him being Megastorm too, though putting a bit more intelligence in the eyes would also be needed. Base to Giant Railline Tank thing like a Cybertronian version of this to Tank Dinosaur

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>>11720250
It won't be too long before someone puts out upgrade kits to replace the limb bots completely, huh? Seeing as how they don't really contribute to the combiner outside of basically being stapled onto the frames. That fuckass Prime combiner's practically begging for one. They'd probably be cheaper than buying all the components to boot.
Also, Ai-chan has nothing to do with this post, I just think she's cute.

>>11720250
Modern transformers suck so fucking hard. Any adult that prefers these over 3rd party or MP must be genuinely autistic. You can't even argue about play value because legends does it better.

>>11720363
Imagine if Megatron transformed into that instead of a generic tank. Also, the shape of that is closer to a pistol.

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>>11720373
Already exists

>>11720375
This is cool but this is an original IP not related to Transformers nor Megatron

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>>11720380
It's very clearly nazi Megatron. This is the like the 3rd Megatron they've made.

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Managed to find Rewind’s boyfriend

>>11720373
So, do you have any suggestions for Tanks that could turn into a base then, since this still has to turn into a fucked up evil dinosaur robot tank

>>11720390
I'm talking about Megatron transform into a railway gun, not related to the previous conversations

>>11720399
So then suggest tanks for Gigastorm to turn into then.

>>11720402
Not a tank, but I think a giant excavator like Cybertron Metroplex/Galaxy Force Megalo Convoy kinda resembles the dinosaur/kaiju/gojira silhouette.

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>>11720371
Reject modernity
Embrace tradition

>>11720256
this looks like absolute batman dogshit

>>11720407
I would prefer a tank due to again megastorm/gigastorm thing

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>>11720367
>It won't be too long before someone puts out upgrade kits to replace the limb bots completely, huh?
It's inevitable. There one for Superion already.

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>>11720250
Both look like shit.
This design team really can't make a combiner.

Monstructor, because I don't have one yet.

That said, my current Bruticus is that spindly Fall of Cybertron one, so yeah. Ready for an upgrade. Plus I need the frame for Nexus.

>>11720436
Looks pretty bad

>>11720440
Is this meant to imply that monstrosity on the right actually looks good?

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>>11720440
Are you seriously saying that the misshapen abomination on the right is better? For all the CW crap you could have chosen you went for the most terrible barring the Motormaster mold, Dorito Elita and the Volcanicus dinobots are terrible.

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Sticking with me turd parties for combiners. You can get either kino all-in-one or something that doesn't look like a mess when it does use extra parts. The only official + upgrade kit I'll go for is Nexus because there is no good way to solve for him with HasTak releases.

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>>11720457
>>11720461
Yes

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>>11720468
That's funny, your pic is backwards then.

>>11720440
>doesnt even have the fembots limbs
broke ass

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>>11720477
I'm pretty sure it isn't.
>>11720488
Nice pic anon!

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Posted about this in the last but it got buried by the leaks.
86 Astrotrain seems to be directly based on the og toy rather than the animation model in its proportions and kibble management and even the chest piece gimmick. Almost guaranteed the mold has a toy head for a retro style release.
But it begs the question of why they put this in SS86 after they said they were going 100% toon with the seekers.

>>11720506
The OG toy looks like less of a mess than the new one. That's fucking sad.

>>11720506
> 86 Astrotrain seems to be directly based on the og toy rather than the animation model in its proportions and kibble management
Sure anon

>>11720508
Bait and slander
Stop simping for Hasbro

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>>11720466
Recently got my Ruination together

>>11720515
Nice reading comprehension, dingus
Hasbro didn't even make the OG, it was a diaclone leftover

>>11720515
>Stop simping for Hasbro
Didn't Takara make the OG toy? How is saying the new one is shittier than the old one "simping for Hasbro"? Are you perhaps illiterate?

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>>11720517
What about their toy colour Defensor?

>>11720521
>>11720525
I read less as more
My bad

Ended up getting an Amalgamus for 35. Don't know if I'll be able to get it cheaper since I don't live in continental USA.

>>11720250
I'm getting Bruticus for sure, he looks the best of all the frame combiners so far and each team member is good on his own. Plus Swindle comes with a gun for Onslaught.

>>11720371
we're poor, you mook. who can afford 3p or MP? we can't even afford mainline.

>>11720508
they're huge on stability now, which is appreciated but.. the fuckers are falling off the shelf no matter what you do

>>11720371
3P and MP are annoying to transform and have terrible play value and only look good on a shelf. Don't know what legends comes out anymore but those suck. Titans Return legends Seaspray is shit next to modern Seaspray for example

>>11720534
Overpaid for the worst figure. Falls apart and doesn't even transform into anything.

speaking of not overpaying, I just got a nicely discounted Razorclaw. I have the upgrade shit coming, so.. should be one more cool guy that i literally cannot fit on my shelf soon.

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is this worth it if i only care about Transformers?

>>11720570
Not really. The only real benefit is being able to preorder figures an hour early and free shipping, so unless you’re planning to preorder a ton of new figures, it’s not worth it

>>11720570
look at how much shipping usually is
Do you think you'll buy 50 bucks worth of transformers (in terms of shipping) for a year (the length of time I assume this membership lasts, but do check) ? if so, yes.

>>11720440
I hate frameslop as the next guy but no way elita 1 pulling off her best bayverse starscream impression looks better than that.

>>11720570

How many TFs a year do you usually buy?

>>11720577
I was just curious what they meant about 'discounts'
>>11720578
true, though I try to buy enough for free shipping but it'd be more lenient
>>11720612
quite a lot. to be honest.

>>11720618
it's probably like 10% during this or that month, nothin huge
honestly the way things are going now, I say just wait for shit to go on sale. I got Razorclaw cheap because his accessories fell to the bottom of the box (unless the seller is lying, at which point I will get my money back) so presumably a MIB collector who didn't want that.

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It's good. I kind of wish I'd waited to see if they put out an Ultra Magnus redeco, but nevertheless it's good. There are a handful of things I like more about MP-10 but it delivers.

>>11720577
>free shipping
I already get free shipping. Hasbro raised prices so much it only takes a couple of figures to be eligible. I'm surprised they haven't raised the order price for free shipping yet.

>>11720274
I like the colors but I'd rather get predaking, this guy does look really great though and would match with those g2 color way reissues from a year or two ago.

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>>11720561
Average 3PMP is $100. Getting one 3P is a far better value than 2 hollow hasbro leaders or a commander. Half the adult fans here have shelves full of shitty hasbro McDonald's toys, if you replaced them with half as many 3P toys they'd be much happier
>>11720566
There's 3 legends Seasprays and they all shit on Hasbro

>>11720452
Not the point.

>>11720681
>There's 3 legends Seasprays and they all shit on Hasbro
Those genuinely don't look any better than the recent Seaspray, or even the old Titans Return one.
You probably shouldn't have picked a design as simple as Seaspray to make a comparison.

>>11720681
I dont have 100 bucks to spend on individual toys

>>11720697
and when I did, I spent them on things as massive as the MPM starscream, the one the same size as the old leader one, back when leader meant BIG.
and even that felt a little extravagant.

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>>11720697
Everyone says this yet they have bookshelves full of deluxes. Average chug shitter spends 10 times the amount that 3P collector would due to the sheer volume of crap they checklist.

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>>11720720
that is a bit excessive, but the color coordination is kinda neat.
I have three shelves of transformers, 14x33 inches each, and one little riser table on two of the shelves, to make extra room (one has instructions under it which I REALLY need to transfer to somewhere else)
and they are fucking packed, so I really need more shelfage. But all my other shit takes up so much space too. I need to move. I need a lucrative job.

>>11720570
Save a lot more
Stop fucking buying direct from Pulse

I make 1 single Pulse Purchase every couple months when it's a Pulse only release that I HAVE to get from them

>>11720731
shit, how many things are pulse exclusive?

>>11720732
Not a whole lot, mostly convention stuff, even Gen Selects gets released through BBTS as well

>>11720720
Those collections have toys spanning decades, you're acting like chuggers buy all that in a year.

>>11720747
Go on reddit and you'll see the exact volume with SS and modern CHUG.

>>11720566
>play value
Transformer fans define that as "holes all over a figure so you can make them grow guns like tumors"

>>11720750
>you'll see the exact volume with SS and modern CHUG.
Which also goes back nearly a decade now.

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>>11720759
Prime wars isn't modern anymore

>>11720751
i actually like copious holes, but it helps when they aren't so big.. i kinda wish zoids went with holes instead of pegs, so they were cleaner-looking sans weapons. They go with roughly 2-3mm most of the time. 5mm leaves BEEG holes.

>>11720765
Anon, Prime Wars ended 8 years ago. Modern chug (Studio Series and Siege) is nearly a decade old.

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>>11720751
>he doesn't like weaponizing
When did /tfg/ become so fucking gay?

>>11720772
MPM 3P and it's OSKOs are also a decade old, look at the second image. Chuggers still hoard toys.

>>11720774
>look at the second image.
The one that also has chug toys? I didn't even realize it was meant to be a comparison.

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>>11720750
>Go on reddit
No thanks anon, but maybe you should go back and stay there.

>>11720517
>>11720526
I just can't get into most 3rd party sculpts, they just feel off for some reason.

>>11720784
90% of that image is OSKO MPM or 3P MPM

>>11720799
Mogged.
>Which one?
Which ever one you're thinking of.

>>11720723
>nothing but live-action movie stuff
Movie stuff is the only stuff I'd get 3P for because Studio Series doesn't have the paint or budget to make them look good usually due to their designs. But as far as non-live action stuff goes I mean pretty much everything in AOTP doesn't even have 3P figures of to even get anyway.

>>11720799
I don't like CW menasor but I could see why people do.

I think CW superion actually looks pretty good but I prefer my AOTP

but this... I don't understand why anyone would prefer CW bruticus. Proportions are trash. Individual figures are hot garbage. Colors are godawful. UW bruticus looks better in a lot of ways and shuttle blastoff makes the set have 3/5 passable figures instead of just 2 but.. ough. Just fuck-ugly.

(CW defensor is God's gift to transformers though because defensor has always been the best combiner in terms of toys)

>The matrix toy actually plays the touch
Welp, guess that's $140 gone. I'm a sucker for toys that play music.... A little disappointed it doesn't play the theme song too though.

>>11720814
why the fuck is speaker technology still so bad? The same tinny tiny-speaker bullshit has been with us for like 40 years. Is it a physical limitation on the projection of sound? Because headphones can make okay sound, and they're small. but they can't project it?

>>11720817
i cant remember the guy's name, but he made a blaster boombox and he went into detail on how he had to engineer how sound bounces off walls within the boombox so that it to can deliver stronger sound.
hasbro probably doesn't give a shit about any sound design whatsoever and just chucked something stupid basic in the matrix

>>11720823
well I mean it's not just them. Phones, toys, small electronics, portable speakers, everything.. if it's below a certain size, it seems impossible for the speakers not to sound like absolute shit. People are pouring so much money into phones, and the quality is the same that it was when touch-tone was still new enough that you had to mention it. If the tech is lagging this badly, I have to wonder if we've hit some kind of insurmountable limit.

>>11720814
And I'm sure it won't be long before people start modding it to play any song they want

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>>11720799
I don't care if people cope "durr it needs 3P lol"
It is still better than AotP at half the price

>>11720814
>$140
It's $120 everywhere but pulse

>>11720853
I doubt UW with add ons was half the price.

>>11720853
>I sure hope nobody asks me to lift this gun up with these weak old man elbows of mine

>>11720853
the quadriceps don't look right to me. too flat.

>>11720853
Brutikiss Players

>>11720853
proportions are still awkward and the colors are kinda ugly but that's just me though

enjoy what toys you like

>>11720506
I don't think a toy head can save it. The only way to salvage it MIGHT be JP G1 toy deco.

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>>11720466
>that pic
I think more Transformers should smoke cigarettes

>>11720686
What happened here? Did that snap off? Let me know so I can avoid this and don't flush 40+ dollars down the drain.

Thundercracker
Lightningbeaner
Electricnigger

>>11720884
>JP
now I'm just thinking about all the jurassic park crossovers we didn't get. Who has ideas? I can think of some good dinoformers we never got.
>>11720886
nooo that's bad for them!
>>11720900
kek, i just saw that dumbjake video today

>>11720899
Plasmachink
Voltjeet

>>11720899
>>11720909
Currentkike

>>11720886
How can they smoke at all if they don't have lungs and can't actually breathe? You can't take a drag if you can't inhale.

>>11720901
>Who has ideas?
I still want a Dinobot repainted/retooled into Blue (or Indoraptor, if they wanted to get creative) paired with a motorcycle who turns into a Chris Prattbot. Or a Triceratops bot paired with another jeep that turns into Dr. Allen Grantbot.
While we're at it, I want more Monster Hunter crossovers - TM2 Megatron as Fatalis, maybe TR Weirdwolf/Carnivac (heavily) retooled into Zinogre, a slight retool of Rathalos Prime and his recolor for a Rathian and Gold Rathian, or some completely new molds to give us popular monsters like Nargacuga, Mizutsune, Tigrex, Yian Kut-ku, and so on.

>>11720920
Oh, one more: Rajang Primal, though I have no idea how to handle the horns without partsforming. Really, though, there's a ton of options for crossover monsters, and they chose to go with the most boring one.

>>11720920
Mite b cool
>>11720923
they could retool the transformation to be more like the original primal, though you'd still have to carefully hide the rajang snout I suppose. nothin wrong with partsforming horns though. and the tail could be a weapon!

>>11720900
I was a Beast Wars kid but I do appreciate the new stuff they're making for The Movie. Well, the ACTUAL new stuff.

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Shield D Prime is a disappointment. It should be named Liger Convoy DX. "Liger" represents Zoid, "Convoy" represents Transformers, specifically Lio Convoy, and "DX" represents Diaclone Crossover.

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>>11720799
Can we just agree that they BOTH look like shit?

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>figure is bad because it is old

This thing sucks

>>11720950
yeah the name is a huge fuckin dump. I will certainly be calling him something else. Actually I haven't decided yet where he goes, I mean maybe on the zoids shelf? the zoid mode is a lot better than the robot mode, as long as you transform the feet properly (though the shoulder and hip pads still look kinda weird)

>>11720957
He clearly prioritizes the Shield Liger mode with a cockpit that can fit a Diaclone pilot. I would say it fits well on the Zoids shelf.

>>11720969
except the legs really look weird in some places and in some poses, and the liger head is kinda small.. it's odd they didn't scale it up to fit the diaclone pilot, instead they just made more room in the cockpit. The head's the size of a normal SL, while the body is 'roided up.
But not to the extent of the tragically flawed AZ ligers, so I'm still gonna be content with it. I mean there's no way I wasn't gonna have the first zoids-transformer crossover... buut.. if not for the fact that I know a guy who knows a guy in Japan and is gonna grab us a bunch at a discount, I would have to say no to the price tag, just as sure as I say no to the 200 dollar 3P movie Grimlock that actually has proper dino anatomy. Just not that rich. Annoying since they did another run of it, but...

>>11720969
also it's still fuckin weird to me that they included the transparent nose tab, something which literally no other release or iteration or adaptation or depiction of the Shield Liger has ever used since the original kit. I will just have to mask it off and paint it, just as sure as I do on the kits. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one thinking about logistics like "would a mecha use transparent material for what is obviously sculpted metal panels attached to the cockpit? Would a hinge be made out of glass?"

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I am thinking of another round of crossovers that are cheaper and more clever, which basically means minor retools and repaints of existing Legends-scale toys.

Speaking of crossovers, I am surprised they've never done anything with Shinkalion.

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>>11720983
A Shinkalion crossover could be interesting. By using a Shinkalion base body with Optimus' head, it could serve as an homage to Optimus ExPrime.

>>11720957
I wanted him but that pricing was ridiculous and all that extra Diaclone garbage was put on just to pump up that price for a toyline I don't even collect.

>>11720990
Post some of your collection.

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>>11720697
Those ones are about 30-40, here’s what you get for 100
And fuck you, Seaspray is great

>>11720988
That'd be good fun. I'd love them to do a new version of the JRX with the CTW 3 train combination style.

I have an idea for a Transformers x Brave crossover: taking King ExKaiser and repainting it as Rodimus, with ExKaiser in Hot Rod colors and King ExKaiser in Rodimus Prime colors.

>>11720991
I don't collect Diaclone so there's nothing to post.

>>11720995
What do you collect? Post it. Post any toy you actually own. You won’t.

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>>11720900
>Beast Wars Kingdom figures
>everything but one Optimus Primal goes on deep clearance
>Every UT figure in the last decade
>all but Optimus Prime ones go one deep clearance
>many are still under their original retail price to buy

>miscolored legged and over priced G1 leader Megatron sells out and stays in demanded
>the Dinobots that don't even come with all their parts and have questionable transformations/proportions sell very well
>Sunstreaker and Sideswipe keep getting released over and over again and sell.
>Everything with the fucking seekers for the last ten years


Yeah no shit they put all their money into what the drones lap up. I don't like it either but I can't fault them for catering what sells. It's a fucking miracle things like Tasmania kid and Armada Sideways get even get green lit. Seems like the moment it's outside of G1 the market won't buy it.

>>11720999
Beast Wars was always a mid show, if I didn't rent a copy of Transformers the Movie while it was airing I'd probably just have drifted away from Transformers completely.

>>11721000
Show was fine and it's right for the praise it gets, the reach wasn't the same, however no toy brand can match what was going on in the 1980s. You didn't have access to quality video games and the like so that half hour cartoon commercial really worked and you would be more engaged to what that shit, that started to trickle away the closer and closer we get to 6th gen gaming and that was what started to both drive down and fracture toy sales and "loyalists" I say for every kid that grew up attached to Beast Wars you had 5 kids that were like that in the 80s to shows like Transfomers and MotU.

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In defense of frameslop, it's cool that you buy one leader figure and it combines with its trailer to form a super mode, magnus style.

I'm still gonna stick with my CW bruticus since brawl looks like the only good figure in the new set

>>11720955
Why do people hate this figure so much? Even PvP was taking an endless dump on it. Is it disappointment/over expectations since everyone was all over this thing for so long hyping it up?

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>>11721008
>>11720440
>>11720477
>>11720486
>>11720488
>>11720498
Nice to see people posting lots of photos of their toys.

Devastator brought that feel of joy and excitement to my hobby. All 2025 i was thinking about how i will build him and play with him.
Now after he went through many battles i'm kind of worried because...i literally played with him.
Does SS86 stuff even meant for "kid-like play". I feel like playtime made some of his parts more loose.
(by playing i mean pretending like he fighting multiple transformers or stomping - i do that sometimes and it lasts like 5 minutes)

I imagine when there will be Bruticus - both of these will end up being loose and with scuffs because i will be sure to make them fight each other!
PS:
Btw legacy size blokess are AWESOME for representation with combiners.
I got just Long Haul and Mixmaster and i want the whole team now.

They look like the exact size of Skybound where combiners are ultra gigantic.

I wonder when they release galaxy size combaticons blokees...

>>11721011
it's just a recolor of an old outdated figure that came out during Siege.

Speaking of which - they could just recolor Siege Astrotrain too.
But they didn't.
Why did they just recolor a Siege Hound then?
this is fucking stupid...

>I work in marketing

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Post characters you know will never get a redo.

>>11720919
Your car inhales every time you turn the vent on and its fan pulls air into it.

>>11721018
I don't really see what is so outdated about it though and it's remolded enough to the point it looks like a proper earthmode. The articulation and aesthetics seemed to have aged well. Could they do better and make a new mold? Yes but it's not the end of the world.

>>11721025
They could easily just release them in a two pack or separate deluxes. Their engineering isn't complicated either, less so than other combiners.

>>11721018
Hound is just a bone tossed at Target for exclusive deals but also consider that the teams get excited over engineering challenges over just updating figure. Short of fluff their just isn't much left to do to improve Hound where as Astrotrain they saw a lot more work they could pour into the attempt of Masterpeice light.
Keep in mind these efforts that have lead to things like Cosmos getting a whole new mold because they figured out how to do it in three spurs and their attempts at Leo and Big Convoy.
Adding to this however Astrotrain has always been more popular than Hound. Hounds always been in that clump of bots that we know exist but most forget he exists.

>>11721033
I was going to argue they are too obsessed with what they can redeco the mold into but they are giving us Armada Sideways which has very little room at redco into anything other than Energon Raid Run so that gives the twins a chance.

>>11720751
The play value of Transformers is in the transforming. Always has been and always will be. Official stuff, while vastly inferior in quality to 3P, has the benefit of simplicity to where you can idly convert a toy between modes without needing to dedicate time to doing it.

>>11721032
>I don't really see what is so outdated about it though and it's remolded enough to the point it looks like a proper earthmode. The articulation and aesthetics seemed to have aged well.
that's the thing

why they did make the new astro-STAIN which is worse than siege one???
but they didnt do the new mold for Hound

>>11721034
>Hounds always been in that clump of bots that we know exist but most forget he exists.
I very much doubt that.
>original Diaclone carbot
>one of the few with a unique mold
>lots of screentime and dialogue early in the cartoon
>decent enough role in many recent comics
Any TF fan who knows ball is very familiar with Hound and likely fond of him. I'd put him and Astrotrain in around the same tier actually.

>>11721039
Seige figure is worse though

>>11721046
>AKSHYUALLY 86 Astrotrain is better than Siege after all
Classic 4chan contrarianism, I can't fathom that anybody would legitimately harbor this opinion. Unless maybe they're a train autist in for the one better mode on the new one and ignoring that the other two (including the most important mode, the bot mode) are infinitely worse.

>>11720957
NTA but my big gripe is the retarded opaque blue windscreen. Those blue windows never look good but doing it on an open topped vehicle is mind numbingly stupid.

>>11721046
In what way? The only major flaw is the back of the shuttle, while the new one still has an awful back for the shuttle, but now has one of the worst robot modes ever.

>>11721053
Yeah im not buying the new astro-stain
During the current economy there is no way im spending money on worse robot of a character i already own. Knowing how many of already expensive figures coming out. And that i will need to finish Bruticus.

Astrotrain wasn't even a visible character in a movie outside of that scene where Starscream throws megatron and others saying "WANNA BET?".
yeah whatever

>>11721016
>I wonder when they release galaxy size combaticons blokees...
I'm wondering the same.
Combaticons blokees is my main goal right now. I want a galaxy-level Brawl!!

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>>11721053
>>11721063
WOOOAH ACTIONMASTERS!!
Who will join me? Who will give up the power to transform to become stiffer, A-posed, more shelf space?
>I will!
>I never transform my toys anyway!

>>11721066
How likely will Blokees release Devastator in Diaclone colors?

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>>11721068
0% chance.
I think they just focusing on main color and abandoning it because there are so much stuff to do.
Also Releasing the same bot in blind box but it's different color now is kind of weird buiseness strategy.
It took them so much stuff to deliver the Devastator (constructicon vehicles separated in different releases (where they have to include vehicle + robot) + then a separate release for Devastator combiner pieces)

Doing that again but for slightly different color sounds like a nightmare...

>>11721070
I love this pic. The Decepticons having an inexplicably Autobot sized set of chains and padlock feels extremely true to the sensibilities of G1.

>>11721025
I fucking love that metallic blue on jetstorm.

>>11721070
>Wrap bumblebitch in bondage
>Knock down bumblebitch
>t-bag bumblebitch while he helplessly squirms in chains
>Shooting bumblebitch off a steep cliff and watch as he breaks into thousands of parts on the way down
>Jump off the cliff and do the ultimate curb stomp on bumblebitch's remains
>Transform into my excavator mode and grind the remains into dust with my treads
Total Bumblebee Death.

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>>11721078
cope

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>>11720993
Unfortunately, CW doesn’t have the 500 Hikari Railstar. You can use the 700 Nozomi as a replacement, but it's not quite the same. So, you can have the SRG 700 500 E4, which is what JRX uses.

>>11721039
wait, why are you wanting them to make a worse Hound?

>>11721079
Damn you

>>11721042
>>lots of screentime and dialogue early in the cartoon
He falls of the cliff after season one. Most want Season 2 stuff and Hound ain't there. He's just not that in demand otherwise he be like the seekers or astrotrain and keep getting made over and over. Fucksakes people lost their shit over exclusive and Shotpacked Cosmos they rolled him into a main line release shortly after that, but the fandoms weren't losing their shit a G1 hound was wrap up with 4 other figures in a just as limited exclusive item.

I get you like him but let's be real: no one is even getting excited at the idea of a new Hound. Hell I bet most here are still wanting an easier to get G1 style Prowl over him.

>>11721067
>NOOOO you can't just prioritize the figure looking good over the transformation or alt modes!
Someone was wondering aloud in the last thread why it seemed like a lot of TF fans don't collect any other toylines. Well, posts like this one nicely show why.

>>11721085
>He falls of the cliff after season one.
And Prowl doesn't? Prowl doesn't even get any significant screentime or lines, let alone plots, in season 1. And he was supposed to be the second in command. None of it really matters because the franchise (even just G1) is much bigger than just the cartoon and you'd have to be pretty myopic not to see that.
>Most want Season 2 stuff
According to who? All the most loved characters are season 1, even the 1985 toys who showed up early (Dinobots, etc).
>He's just not that in demand otherwise he be like the seekers or astrotrain and keep getting made over and over.
Uh, he HAS been made over and over.
> but the fandoms weren't losing their shit a G1 hound was wrap up with 4 other figures in a just as limited exclusive item.
They literally were though, 90% of the people who bought that 5 pack got it just for him.

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>>11721096
>And Prowl doesn't? Prowl doesn't even get any significant screentime or lines, let alone plots, in season 1.
You took the bait, and now understand there is more to demand than screen time. good. That's the path you need to follow here, what people ask for not what "relevance" the fucking thing has. It's who's buying that makes these things happen.

>According to who?
Sales. Play the games you want but at the end of the day that's what matters, again you are starting to see the bigger picture fighting my points.

>90% of the people who bought that 5 pack got it just for him.
So then it goes to stand simply re-releasing that mold ensure better sales than wasting time on a new mold when their is still demand for the old one.

There ya go, question answered why they made a new Astrotrain but not a new Hound


Thanks for playing

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Bros...i love transformers toys so much...

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>>11721099
>no no, you see you refuting my stupid arguments means they were ACTUALLY RIGHT!
>uh, somehow
People asked for an Earthmode Hound AND an (alive) Earthmode Prowl. And lo and behold, we're getting them both, so I don't know what retarded point you seem to think you were making.
Meanwhile, people were actually NOT asking for a new Astrotrain and most people were happy with the prospect of Siege Train getting re-issued with the battle damage and maybe some greebles scrubbed off. No one asked for Ozempictrain besides maybe a few autists who collect boxes and not figures and needed to see that magic "Studio Series" labelling on it.
That latter category of which I can only assume you are a member of.

>>11721105
Damn we're pretending both Siege Astrotrain and Legacy Blitzwing are good now? Contrarian General strikes again

>>11721011
>>figure is bad because it is old
>This thing sucks

I think the guy is being sarcastic...

As someone who also has that hound- it is fine.

Though I don't like the how weak the transformation joints/connections are specially when rest of the body moving joints are still as strong as before.

>>11720784
sug my chug

>>11721105
>People asked for an Earthmode Hound AND an (alive) Earthmode Prowl. And lo and behold, we're getting them both, so I don't know what retarded point you seem to think you were making.
Just have to follow the reply chain, start with >>11721018

Also I enjoy clowns like you that claim what the people do and don't want.


like you actually talk to anyone.

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>>11721093
The whole anger over action masters and non-transforming TF toys is so weird to me, because non-transforming versions to be more media accurate or cheaper, are just common with every other mecha franchise.
I get the frustration with the US side only having the Action Masters for the last few years besides Micromasters, but the franchise was dying at the time.

>>11720681
$40+ Legends scale figures are the stupidest shit ever. no matter how good they are they never feel impressive because small robots just aren't as cool. I'm not paying $90 for a fucking 4-5 inch Optimus.

>>11721157
I feel like Transformers is screwed in that aspect because the franchise has the word transform in it, so people are going to expect all figures to transform in some way

>>11721152
>like you actually talk to anyone.
Nice projection fag, right now I'm talking to a shut-in autist who has no idea what people want or how they talk to each other in the real world. You're in too deep into your little bubble online.
Also new Hound is not a recolor of Siege Hound, they share a lot of engineering but he was a new mode. He was supposed to be a Target exclusive years ago until they backed out. Then the mold saw release as Detritus who was widely hated (despite being a perfectly nice figure in his own right) solely because he *wasn't* Hound which would seem to fly in the face of your argument earlier that no one knows who Hound is or cares. Then people went on in the 5-pack mostly just for him.
So what have we learned?
>Hasbro puts Hound in a 5 pack- BAD!
>Hasbro later puts him out as a solo release so people who missed him can get him- ALSO BAD!
There is no pleasing you miserable dorks is there?

>>11721113
Siege Astrotrain IS much nicer than 86, yes. (especially the DCS version)
You can either expect the same out of 86 Blitzwing or he'll just be Legacy re-issued in new colors anyway, take your pick.

>>11721067
All these blokees chumps

>>11721157
Yeah but how often do super robots use their other modes? It’s typically just for a stock footage combination sequence. Transformers regularly go back and forth

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>>11720999
How would a Megatron figure look like with properly colored legs? Asking because thinking about a potential re-paint. Maybe like this one? Maybe the insides could be red if going for G1 accuracy?

>>11721246
G1 Megatron never had black shins.

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>>11721169
>Hasbro puts Hound in a 5 pack- BAD!
>Hasbro later puts him out as a solo release so people who missed him can get him- ALSO BAD!
The anon originally was asking why they didn't make a new Hound mold. I have no idea why you are taking a stance that no one here had at any point.

>>11721254
>The anon originally was asking why they didn't make a new Hound mold.
Well there's the answer in a roundabout way. There was no need to make a new Hound when there was a perfectly good mold that a lot of people still wanted and never got a chance to have.

>>11721251
He never had blue shins either. The black at least looks much better.

>>11721259
>a perfectly good mold
Let's not go that far

>>11720981
that cat and dragon are pretty fucking goofy, but the others would be cool

>>11720992
I mean he looks pretty cool
if they made chug-scale versions of some of the 3p transmetals i've seen, i'd have bought them by now. but Ima beast guy.
>>11721000
terrible take.
>>11721016
i miss 'playing.' i never play anymore.

>>11721058
I think you misreplied, we're talking about shiel-D-prime here.

>>11721246
I was wondering why this looks better to me than the grey shins and I realized it’s because I grew up with Animated Megatron, who has black shins
>>11721251
If they made the insides blue and swapped the head for a toy based one they could do Megaplex

>>11721262
He has grey shins

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>>11721251
The sides were black

>>11721310
Sure, but the sides of the legs aren't called "shins", right?

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>>11721311
So how would you color the lower legs then? front-side-back

>>11721100
them's some cute lil monsters and tanks.. Gotta say I would not kick these five off the shelf.

>>11721262
If you're going to paint it to be more accurate why would you paint it black, a color that deviates even more from the source than the bluish gray the toy already has? Just paint it gray.

Or people trying to come up with excuses could just admit they got the color wrong because they're too used to the Siege Megatron mold.

>>11721157
I felt bad for the kids who had the non disassemblable megazord toy
>>11721229
boy they almost look cool here

>>11721311
come to think of it, what are they called?
the popliteal side is the calf (and then the achilles tendon and all that, but we can just call that 'calf' til it hits 'ankle')
but the sides? What... Shinflanks? Kneeoulders? Road Rash Absorbers?

>>11721312
Gray-black-black. With gray inner sides for show accuracy, or with red inner sides for toy accuracy.

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>>11721314
>them's some cute lil monsters and tanks.. Gotta say I would not kick these five off the shelf.
i'm patiently waiting when we gonna get "little transformers" (not core class - the smaller ones) again...
These little dinosaurs and tanks were the best thing ever during Titans Return-Power of the Primes

Man, finally got a good deal on Mp Crosscut. Now I can pair it with my cheap Reboost.

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>>11720955
>>11721011
>>11721116
As much as I love Hound this really is a semi awful release
He's just too clunky in the legs
Feet are big slabs and kind of annoying
If you shrunk the chest and shins a little and maybe slim the Forearms he'd be considerably better
I don't think he is outright bad and not worth it, but he is dated and could be better
The SS86 Release just being a refresh kinda sucks and means we won't get a new one for another like 3+ years

>>11721378
At least he's not Sunstreaker. Zero changes despite all the issues, not even the windshield despite that being one of his major issues.

>>11720686
>>11720893
If you've ever transformed this figure you can tell what went wrong here: Above the waist, the plane canopy slides alont a T-shaped piece of plastic. To transform to plane mode, you have to slide the canopy forward (a gentle push on his back where the nosecone bends will do the trick) and THEN bend the whole torso back. However the instructions omit this small detail and just show the bending the torso back part. I tried this too the first time before doing the slide step first and that would require excessive force, so I can see how the waist popped out first, and in the picture you can even see the blue part of the canopy stressed by this excess force. In short this was caused by mistransformation and hamhands, but the instruction booklet also wasn't clear enough.

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>>11721383
He's not bad to me but again he really should have got a touch up
SS86 is now just becoming "ehh just repaint that one mold and call it"

>>11721390
His shoulders have an awkward shape that make it a bit annoying to pose, but his major problems where the head being too small and his windshield not breaking up a bit more to match the shape it normally has. It's annoying because all this had easy fixes:

-Head could have the ears folded in for transformation, so the head could be bigger.
-parts of the windshield could end up on the leg, or collapse some pieces into the cavity in the chest left by the head being unfolded.

>>11721390
Doesn't even get his gun

>>11721406
Which one? The cartoon couldn't decide, he had either the laser pistol, the other laser pistol or Sideswipes gun from the cartoon.

>>11721408
wait, did they finally give him a gun that was not that engine on the back of his car mode?

>>11721418
No, he didn't, and it was more needed for him than Wheeljack. What should've happened was for his spoiler and a few guns to be put on a new grey sprue.

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>>11721011
Ppl stared to hate it?? Finally??

Lol I disliked the retool since I got my hands on Detritus, I havent experienced the OG mold by that point & god it gave that vibe that he was circumcised af in alt mode (cope mechanism, I took that so he lives by his JUNKion heritage, but for Hound I predicted that it was an upcoming shitshow... which wasn't the case because ppl were jerking off FINALLY A EARTH HOUND BLBLBLLBL)

I got the Siege mold last month & except the tidious transformation, what a relief (alhought previous owner customized it a lil bit), why wasnt Detritus & Ironfist made out of the Siege mold?? it rules

>>11721259
WOW, stop the cap

>>11721418
Yeah the 5 pack version came with a gun that has apparently been taken back away for the 86 version despite it being identical otherwise.

>>11721427
I wanted that Ironfish but not 50 dollars plus homework to get rid of Carnivac want.

>>11721418
The 5p gave him him and Wheeljack the guns that came with the Legacy Elita/Minerva mold. For some bizarre reason, the re-release does not come with that gun, but the Wheeljack re-release does. Why they didn't just dedicate a small mold for their guns is a mystery.

WJ also uses one of the generic laser pistol designs and that massive gun that he tried using early in the show (it exploded right after).

>>11721442
The set constantly dips on Amazon, even then Carnivac is an improvement over the TR mold, it actually fixed most problems.

>>11721427
While I don’t dislike the Earth-mode retool it is inferior to Siege for sure. I think the only thing it actually improves on is the head, as I always found the Siege sculpt to have too narrow a face. Maybe the weapons too but only insofar as they’re accurate to the cartoon.

And I agree that Detritus and Ironfist should have used the siege mold instead.

Sea spray is pretty cool for 17 USD

>>11721469
The one at my Wal-mart had a really fucked up cardback + I need to save money for other dumb shit later in the year like Siedways and Megazarak.

>>11721479
If Galvatron was on sale for Christmas then Megazarak will be too.

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>>11721166
Anon this is Go(Five)Lion, his hole thing is that he's made of Five Lions, they still made non-combining figures.
You'll have mecha called Six Machine combination Hexaiger or Four Beast God Zyuhowtzer or whatever and they'll have standard releases and gashopons and whatever.
>>11721205
then you have the comics where they barely transform. Which a lot of the Flametoys stuff is based off on
>>11721316
I remember the Lightspeed Rescue non-disassembling Megazords often had better articulation, plus matched up with monster figures more.
I remember being pissed that my 4'' mini Super Zeo Megazord had more paint on his swords than the full size version

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It looks like Razorclaw is going to be the coolest figure this year.

>>11721038
>Official stuff, while vastly inferior in quality to 3P
I'm not sure I agree, even as someone that thinks mainline Transformers has been in a somewhat dismal state for over 10 years. 3P just competes on different margins, which is why they gravitate toward MP (large) and Legends (very small) scale figures. Even then though I'm not sure they outdo HasTak with consistency.

>>11721246
Not being able to push the back of the barrel to shorten the cannon in bot mode was a mistake.

Feel like I'm in bizarro world, 3 Thundercrackers and no Alpha Trions.
What's the case Breakdown on these guys?

>>11721246
>properly coloured legs
If you’re doing toy colours then do everything properly

>>11721384
I am AMAZED i never busted my original tigerhawk, he had a lot of nonintuitive 'this first, then this' steps and so many times I was like "i'm just flexing this, this can't be right"
thank god for springy, high-quality 90s plastic.

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>>11721534
And of course, I forgot the pic

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Here's your non-combining, non-transforming combiner bro.
Blokees fills the void of Action Masters, don't you think?

>>11721540
Yeah but they smol

>>11721526
>Even then though I'm not sure they outdo HasTak with consistency.
On what exactly?
I think the only constantly bad company in 3P is XTB and Cang Toysz

>>11721516
I've already got his replacement fists in, RC himself nabbed at a discount (modern prices are nutty), and the upgrade kit's on preorder.

>>11721555
Hopefully, I get a Razorclaw for cheap. I ended up paying 5 for Big Convoy, 32 for Thunder cracker, and 15 for a few deluxe. I also got a few combaticons for free after a shipping fuck up from Walmart.

>>11721540
Nah, these people don't want actual actionmasters. They want transformers with shit vehicle modes that they'll never transform.

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>>11721404
Easily my worst problem with him. He has these almost "pylon" style shoulders that I could like on other designs but not him


>>11721540
My autism still deeply wishes they could transform but I am coming around on some of them

>>11721555
>I've already got his replacement fists in
Which ones were those, again, and where can one find them?

>>11721556
nice. sounds like we both nabbed him at the right time. I was willing to wait, too.
>>11721561
Fan Style PH-03 (dark gray). they also make PH-01 and 02 which are the same but in white and blue (forget which is which.) White might be easier to paint up like the standard hands, since you could just paint dark gray on the tops of the hands? but I went with all gray. I'll silver up the jointed fingers if I feel like it.

can't transform with em, but otherwise they are perfect.

Oh hey Quintus is actually pretty cool to have in hand.
Wish I can find Amalgamous at a store though.

>>11721383
How are you going to get the windshield shape correct without fauxforming?

>trying to collect all the junkions
>only missing Axlegrease
>60 bucks cheapest
damn

>>11721459
I'm aware of the fixes, but I don't want it.

I want to makeout with Cheetor's cute freckled face.

>>11721627
i'm glad there are girl transformers fans, too.
did you like his upgraded forms as well?

>>11721630
I'm a guy

Transmetal cheetor's less cute but still neat. Not my first pick.

BM cheetor can actually look pretty cute with the right lighting but he's still a c tier design

>>11721229
These don't look like the deluxe versions, are these from the Human Alliance line? I think that's what it was called.

>>11721655
that's gay, anon

>>11721667
and?

>>11721671
It's Prima, Vector, Micronus, Alchemist, Nexus, Onyx, Amalgamous, Quintus, Liege Maximo, The Fallen, The Thirteenth, and Solus,
Not Prima, Vector, Micronus, Alchemist, Nexus, Onyx, Amalgamous, Quintus, Liege Maximo, The Fallen, The Thirteenth, and Steve

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>>11721656
Yeah those are the Human Alliance versions

>>11721685
Human Alliance was so weirdly good wasn't it

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>>11721687
They were about the best you could get, especially in the DotM era

>>11721689
yet you'd expect them to be heavily compromised since they had to have a full interior

Alternity, GT, and Human Alliance were the best lines in Transformers. They featured nice vehicle modes and robot modes, scaled well with human figures, and allowed interaction between the human figure and the vehicle or robot.

>>11721693
For once it was good that even if the models didn't fully respect mass, they were designed to do so and that reflected on these.

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People are being just too harsh on the siege remolds

Did they really expect Hasbro to be willing to go all out and give us extremely G1 show accurate figures with the mainline series even though that has never been the case- even with the current 86 line.
The main retail lines have always been reinterpretations of the G1 characters ever since classic era

There is no reason for them not to use perfectly decent designs and retool them to G1 style.
And judging from the reactions to the new Astrotrain, they should have kept it going with it.

I swear, hardcore tf collectors just want either full MP 100% or just G1 toys with better joints (aka missing link) and nothing else

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>>11721752
Figures like Brawn set a precedent, even though it was most likely made to scale with the new minibots and the pet project of one of the designers judging by Gears.
Hasbro was never going to bother putting the effort into making good figures for the entire 86 cast when having old molds coming in to punch the card was going to be enough.

>>11721752
SS86 was an inconsistent/inaccurate catch-all from the start, anyway.

>>11721752
sorry
what the fuck sesame street toy has swiveling wrists, double-jointed elbows, and balljointed shoulders.. but has obvious hollow spots on the undersides of the hands?
it's incongruous, I tell ya.

>>11721755
they should use OLDER molds. older!

>>11721758
Blokees slop most likely

>>11721759
>suddenly classics Hound returns to the shelves cast in the current melted trash bag plastic of today
lmao

>>11721774
Oh, yeah that's a good point. The plastic quality has gone down, and the budgets have too, so that's probably why.
Well, they still should do it. Even though I know they won't.

>>11721775
I think it would be funny.
I missed out on Classics and honestly, the only issue I had with it was that many of them had wonky proportions.

>>11721774
Aside from colors, Classics Hound was awful. I'm honestly not sure why people would want it. It could barely stand due to the weird feet, nothing really locks in for robot mode, the missile launcher is in an awkward position, and no gun. Ravage is literally the only thing worth getting.

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>>11721776
In my opinion even a lot of the robot modes were more interesting. The appeal of transformations is in shapes being recontextualized; this is why faux parts or "cheating" rubs some people the wrong way. This is also why shit like MP-44 or various 3P strut-and-panel abominations that turn inside out have no appeal to me.

A lot of people will point to Mirage as an example of Classics getting it wrong, but to me it's a good example of what I miss in Transformers.

>>11721797
Looking at it again, only the head and lack of thigh swivels are at fault. I'd be fine with it. Maybe I could pick one up and switch its head with the one on the Netflix Mirage. I've been postponing a Deluge custom for a while.

>>11721794
Classics Hound for the time was alright. I never had problems standing him, you're probably leaning him too far forward because of the way his legs are shaped. The transformation was fun as well. Definitely better than most of Universe 2.0

>>11721752
Geewunners have more choice than ever before and yet they've only become more entitled

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It's Universe Hound

>>11721801
He came around the same time as Cyclonus and Sunstreaker. It was bad even then, the only reason it wasn't worse was thanks to Octane being an even worse figure.

>>11721809
I'm not basing my opinions over things like proportions or looks that shit didn't matter back then. Compared to most he was fairly average especially considering it was 2008 where everyone else had dice roll QC (Classics Prowl), he was relatively unaffected.

>>11720250
>do my first preorder on Amazon (combaticon Brawl)
>oh boy it's just 35eur and i gues i saved a lot because it will be like 45+ later
>double check the info - yep it seems that i was paid because i was wondering if they will take money now or when the figure will be available
>days pass
>this morning: your payment didn't come through - not enough money on your card
for fucks sake
Why they didnt they take money instantly?
As a broke man i don't have enough money at the end of the month...
Oh well

>>11721797
>this is why faux parts or "cheating" rubs some people the wrong way
Aren't those panels on Classics Mirage's hips faux parts? They're painted to resemble the front wings like the G1 model.

>>11721826
>Aren't those panels on Classics Mirage's hips faux parts?
They totally are, the actual wings are his weapon.

>>11721801
whatever Hasbroshill

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>>11721312
KO got you covered mate

The only bad part of Earth Mode Hound's tooling is that they decided for some reason instead of seats he should have cheese graters.

>>11721797
I fucking hate kingdom Mirage, but was ok with g2 leadfoot.

>>11721920
any 3p ever made an add on kit?

>>11721920
Basically every shitrise remold has this problem, just impressive amounts of laziness all around

>>11720992
So how much would it be to get one that is like the final form of Seaspray? Like combining the 2010 Sea Spray with the original's design elements and giving him more armaments.

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Looking for Transformers in a collector store is always such a disappointment. Especially when the only two near you are both over-inflating sellers and low-balling buyers.

Faux parts are the weirdest thing. They look like they did to begin with because of toy transformations.

>>11722023
It's the fault of chasing fiction accuracy. I get trying to keep Prime's window look, but I prefer it in G2 where it's a whole different shape so not literally meant to be the same part. Just evocative
Part of the fun of transformers is figuring how one part gets to the other area in the other mode, so fake parts are just boring.

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>>11721809
>>11721794
Universe Hound had fucking awful thighs and yet was constantly praised back then, it was so weird. Look at how barely raised his leg looks because his thigh is so short it barely impacts his leg length and thus neuters his articulation. It's a peak example of them attempting more articulation but failing due to proportions being stubby.

>>11722023
Sometimes they're needed for toon accuracy. Faux parts are often meant to simulate how kibble grows or changes shape on those animation models.
Animated Bumblebee actually had faux parts built into his design. There were some frames of the show where you could see his fake windshield chest appear from under the real one when he transformed.

So when's Monstructor?

>>11722082
Probably pulsecon or maybe comicon at the earliest. I don't think we've been hyped anything else besides maybe aerialbots redeco????

>>11722021
i'm amazed there's anything other than this situation
>>11722057
i semi agree with this, but as a beast guy and bay fan, I have to accept that all 'real life' transformers do something that the toy can't, so it's a matter of grades.
If the parts being replaced by faux parts are completely hidden, I'm okay with it most of the time. I'd rather have the flattened out beast heads for the chests, though I always hope there's a way to somewhat integrate those into the body, and I often wonder if there might be a way to have the actual heads transform..

if the real parts are blatantly visible in the same mode with the faux parts, that is fagatronic. Cut that out.

>>11721113
Astrotrain was always good. He was just missing a cover for his shuttle mode. Blitzwing is great in hand. In pictures, his jet cockpit sticks out much further than I does in real life for some reason.

Seriously all they needed to do was get rid of Astrotrains useless coal car and all his extra weapons, smooth him down like they did with Schlockwave, and give him a shuttle cover that converts to a shield.

How they fucked up that bad is beyond me, but hopefully this is the straw that breaks the camels back, and they fire this current design team.

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Don't forget SS86 Soundwave has double-jointed elbows and butterfly shoulders (like I did)