first for my wife sansa

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gaming

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Second for Milly
I want to hug her and cuddle with her forever

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Always remember

>>218283536
an inbred-looking cuckold like raymun's the worst possible vehicle for this argument

Valyrians? All demon-worshippers who were punished by the Seven for their Satanic human sacrifice blood magic.

Why do the Andals worship weak mortals? Surely their gods aren't as weak as they are...

>>218283583
apparently he's not supposed to be a cuck
the intention with that scene was that Red was lying about being pregnant to baby trap him
but the writers are retarded

>>218283648
that is something a cuck would cope about

I actually liked Daeron more than I expected.

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A bear there was, a bear, a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair.
The bear! The bear!

Oh come they said, oh come to the fair!
The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair!

And down the road from here to there.
From here! To there!
Three boys, a goat and a dancing bear!
They danced and spun, all the way to the fair!
The fair! The fair!

Oh, sweet she was, and pure and fair!
The maid with honey in her hair!
Her hair! Her hair!
The maid with honey in her hair!

The bear smelled the scent on the summer air.
The bear! The bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair!

He smelled the scent on the summer air!
He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!
Honey on the summer air!

Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
A bear! A bear!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!

The bear, the bear!
Lifted her high into the air!
The bear! The bear!

I called for a knight, but you're a bear!
A bear, a bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair

She kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,
But he licked the honey from her hair.
Her hair! Her hair!
He licked the honey from her hair!

Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!
My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!
And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair

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"And who are you?" The proud Lord said
"That I must bow so low"
Only a cat of a different coat
That's all the truth I know
In a coat of gold or a coat of red
A lion still has claws
Mine are long and sharp, my lord
As long and sharp as yours
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
"And who are you?" The proud Lord said
"That I must bow so low"
Only a cat of a different coat
That's all the truth I know
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
and so he spoke
(That Lord of Castamere) Lord of Castamere
(But now the rains) weep o'er his hall
(And not a soul to hear)
And not a soul to hear

>>218283688
I always hear this in my head as a scream, each line and verse, idk why

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He was right. Seethe, targshits.

>>218283648
>apparently he's not supposed to be a cuck
Source? Because the show 100% makes it look like he's a cuck. Duncan even does the "uhh yikes" face when Raymun says he must've got her pregnant.

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>>218283244
>haven't cheched in a while, do we have any hotd s3 leaks?
Yeah, a supposed outline of the whole season. But I'm not sure where this is even from. The anon who first posted it here wasn't really able to say where he got it from.
See >>218283706 for full "leak".

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>>218283642
>aryans
>gets pushed out of every domain except of western Europe by wolffuckers

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>>218283536

>>218283590
Trvke that leveled Valyria (good).
Valyria = Whore of Babylon

>>218283788
lmao fossissy xisters ...

>>218283766
Fake and gay

>>218283536
No I call that thing my wife.

I'm only part way through, but why don't all the Targs in Dunk and Egg have white hair?

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Valyroids mad.

>>218283802
>Valyria = Whore of Babylon
Pretty much Valyria is pagan Rome

>>218283881
Dornish blood.

>>218283881
They haven't been inbreeding as much at that time. The Targs recently brought Dorne into the fold via marriage pacts, there's Dornish blood in the Targ bloodline now which you can very clearly see in Baelor and his son.

>>218283881
The black haired ones are all strong boys.

I am rewatching House of the Feminism and Daemon's marriage to Laena is unironically the most stable and normal relationship in this show, it's honest and forthright. His marriage to Rhaenyra is a bipolar disaster in comparison.

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So how will Ellison change future GOT series?

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I want someone to ask GRRM at a con who Bloodraven was referring to when he said "...a brother that I loved..." and he just replies with picrel

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>>218283564
oo what game?

>>218283766
Real and straight

>>218283881
Baelor's mother is Dornish

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>>218284035

>Apparently, Grrmoid has stopped wearing the Primus cuckhat and is instead wearing a bowler hat
Wft is his problem?

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>>218283881
"targs" at this point are more Dornish than Valyrian, Westeros was effectively handed over to the Dornish by Daeron. Daemon tried to save Westeros from their degeneracy but was prevented from doing it by treachery and sorcery

not shocking that the "targ" dynasty ended less than a century later and all of Westeros was corrupted by the Dornoid scum

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>Beesbury, take a lance to the face for me, ok?

>>218284287
So how do Dany and her brother end up paler than a hemophiliac?

>>218284315
They went back to inbreeding after pretty much the entire family burned to death at Summerhall

>>218283536
based fucking apple boy

>>218284315
They're not Targaryens, they're random Lyseni kids who were groomed into believing they were.

>>218283536
of course not, that is a God

>>218284287
if you judge the Targaryen for how they handed Westeros over to the Dornish, then you should spit and piss on the graves of the Blackfyres even harder, because they tried and failed which is an even more pathetic fate, one worthy of bastards and freaks

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This jacket is the coolest looking outfit in whole show
the red inside makes it look amazing

>>218283881
Same reason they dont all have purple eyes
It looks kind of goofy in real life

>>218283946
Would be pretty surprised if he removed Casey Bloys from HBO desu. Basically everyone agrees hes done a good job running it. Same with Mike Deluca and Pam Abdy at WB

If anything it seems like he wants to supercharge some of their IP. Probably greenlights more GoT spin-offs

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>>218283766
>no mention of Aemond getting btfo'd
do we have to wait another 2 years? boooooring

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Why didn't Robb Stark wear cool armor?

>>218284471
>Basically everyone agrees hes done a good job running it

Lol, what?
House of The Dragon is boooooring and poorly made.
Knight of the Seven Kangdoms is mid. It's only good compared to the rest of crap on tv but overall is not good.

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>>218283766
I wonder how /ourchud/'s relationship with Alys will be considering show Alys.

like 90% of problems in season 1 come from the fact no one has any social skills
the rest is littlefingers fault

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Gina Carano should have been cast as Alys

>>218284503
Casey Bloys oversees way more shows than just those 2. Hotd is still popular and Dunk+Egg was a success too. Has important relationships with people like Mike White, GRRM, John Wells, David E Kelley.

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>>218284485
Aemond nobly sacrifices himself for the prophecy, he doesn’t get btfo

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>>218284720
Top fuckin Kek aemond chads stay winning

>>218283766
Did Rhys Ifans not want to do the show after season 1? Otto Hightower is basically absent for the second half of s2 and only returns in s3 to get his head chopped off

>any knight can make a knight
Why aren't there knights going round giving out knighthoods willy nilly?

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>>218283536
With competent writers, something would've came out of this. Some repercution, retaliation, or at least reaction.
NOPE
We need more screen time for dumb shit and Ed Sheeran

>hehe poop joke
>hehe benis
>hehe fat joke
People are trolling when they say this is better than prime GoT, right?

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>>218284720
>>218284775
If I had to write the arc
>Alys initially hates Aemond for the genocides, only fucks him to try to manipulate him
>Knows her actions will lead to his death
>Over time they fall in love for reals
>She tells Aemond of the prophecy, she begs him not to go fight Daemon, and to run away with her
>Aemond goes "Nah I'd win" a la Gojo
>Goes as we all know it goes

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>>218284369
wrong, best drip goes to Tywin

>>218284787
kek, that's what Bronn is doing in the books. He'd knighting all his former mercenary friends

>>218284832
One reddit joke an episode is easy to memoryhole.

>>218284855
Sir Bronn of the Basedwater

>>218284787
Hedge Knights are pretty low status, wouldn't you say?

>>218284803
The writing had already lost it by that point. You couldn't expect coherent follow through on anything in the later seasons.

>>218284787
I guess once you get in the club you start to gatekeep it

>>218284787
Knighthood's a valuable thing! You can even demand a guy's sister's maidenhead for one.

>>218284787
Because it's pointless. You go name every peasant in the village a knight and what's been accomplished?

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Why wasn't Satin in the show?

>>218284905
Among nobles sure, but amongst the common folk who you actually see every day, it'd be a pretty big deal. Like being a local celebrity

>>218284944
Can Ashford not afford a proper maester?

>>218284950
That's a Septon not a maester

>>218284944
>pretending to be a boy just to act like a femoid
Let me guess, this nigga finna dress up in thigh-highs and pretend to be a femboy nigga this some crazy shiet nigha

>>218284980
why do you talk like a black woman

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beeware his honeyed sting

>>218285000
Because I'm shitposting

>>218284488
Becuase Norf never got the Andal update.

>>218285000
it's a faggot or a femoid. they were a problem during hotd s2 threads.

>>218284834
>alys tell aemond they’re child will save the world
>aemond thinks he’s starting a new dynasty
>she takes the baby north of the wall to the cotf to be the greenseer before bloodraven shows up

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>>218284803
the freys were despised and fucking dead. it would take years for them to recover. and in that fragile time, they'd probably lose their lands to other riverlands lords.

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>OOOOOOHHHHHH ALICE WAS A SPECIAL LASS

>>218285000
It's zoomer culture

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>>218284787
there are some. but being called a knight doesn't mean jack shit if you don't have arms, armor, a horse, a squire, or deeds behind your name that make lords, nobles, and other knights trust you enough to hire you. that's why dunk wanted to join the ashford tourney, to prove himself in hopes a noble or someone would notice him and hire him. he's got the sword, horses, as even egg as a squire. but he's still a nobody. no one wants to hire a nobody hedge knight. it's why hedge knights have a poor reputation in the books.

in the 3rd dunk and egg novella, a hedge knight was knighted in a brothel in exchange for the knight taking his sister's virginity, and literally everyone mocks him and looks down on him because of it. everyone except goodboy dunk of course.

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achievable natty ?

>>218285133
on a diet of hard salt beef yes its achievable

>>218285097
I don’t know why but I have a strong hatred for Manfred Dondarrion.

>>218284945
Not actually.

>>218285133
Mirin'

>>218285097
the absolute state of that chest

>>218285097
Why are his nips so small?

You get a spear through leg. Do you:
a) lay in bed for weeks, limp around on a crutch and get your head cut off, or
b) walk it off and become squire to a knight

?

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>>218285156
He looks like a cunt

>>218285213
c) die painfully from an """infection""" after those gray rats try to treat me

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>>218285133
No. But this is >>218285097

>>218285213
Only a minor wound to an Andalchad, walk it off and it will be fine. A valyroid/dornoid mongrel, on the other hand, will easily have his skull caved him from a grazing blow.

>series is supposed to be about a hedge knight
>the series is actually about the same fucking royal houses as before
They've struck gold but they leave it for the gypsies

Ned really fucked up everything for himself at the end man

>>218285293
but it is about a hedge knight
and do you expect the show to just not include a major part of the world?

>>218285213
Is rub some feces into it like a true Dothraki chad

>>218283569
but that was his ending, just on fast forward. if it wasn't he would be pushing to present the world his true ending and actually finish the books.
instead he jerks off and does nothing because he already knows the response to what he had planned.

>>218285318
It would be cool if it was about a hedge knight doing hedge knight things for 40+ episodes, like tracking down sheep rustlers or picking some rare flower for a budding Maester

>>218283748
>unlock the secret of Aegon's Dream within the dagger
since they're bringing it up again, I think it would be good to discuss the implications of this reveal
If this is canon in the books as well, as it seems the showrunners hold it directly from GRRM, is it possible that at one point the chain of transmission of this secret was broken ? Did all the Targaryen kings knew about it or were there some who never heard it ? What would the chain king by king ? First Aegon the Conqueror (and his sisters) then Aenys. Did Maegor know ? Jaehaerys clearly knew and told Viserys whom we know told Rhaenyra but not Aegon II. In the show Rhaenyra told Jace but did she also tell Aegon III ? If he knew that would explain why while he hated dragons, he was willing to try to get them back. And then ? His sons (Daeron and Baelor) don't sound like they knew. And would have Aegon III told his brother ? Aegon IV certainly don't look like he was aware he was endowed with a world saving mission. Same question for all the kings after him

So, why was Maekar's line so insane anyway?
his mother was a Martell and he married a Dayne, his children where the least inbred targs in generations.

>>218285375
inbreeding is good, actually

>>218285373
follow-up
Aegon IV may have told Daemon Blackfyre if he really thought he was his heir. But the Blackfyres don't really seem to know. Unless fatgon never knew. Daeron II may have know hence why he tried to unite Dorne with the realm. And he may have told Baelor Breakspear. But did Aerys I knew ? It is clear that Bloodraven knew all these things all along even though he was never an heir but Bittersteel don't appear to have been very concerned, we know he distrusted the dreams of Daemon II, why would he trust those of a king who died almost 200 years ago ? It is implied that the reason why Aerys I was so engrossed in books and scrolls is because he knew something about the prophecy. But then is it his father or Bloodraven who told him ? And Maekar ? Did he knew ? From his father or his brother or from Bloodraven ? It would be fully in character for Egg to have known maybe it was another reason why he tried to hatch dragons. We know there were talks at his court about the Prince that was Promised. Jaehaerys II knew and so did Aerys II because he married his children to have the Prince been born from their line. But Aerys clearly wasn't concerned with the prophecy. And of course Rhaegar belevied himself to be the chosen one. But it's curious at this point in time, late in the Targ dynasty, it seems it wasn't just the king and his heir who knew about Aegon's dream but the entire royal family as well as important members of the court
I understand why GRRM and Condal thought it important to include that bit but I don't think they thought enough about the difficulties it creates for the storyline

>>218285347
Could even be made into a Fable-style vidya

>>218284672
>GRRM
Isn't he always whining about deviations?

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>>218285375
>his mother was a Martell and he married a Dayne
There's your problem. His children were 3/4th Dorniggers and only 1/4th Targshit.
>Inb4 muh hecklin daynes aren't dornmutts
They are!

>>218285414
I could never work in film/tv. I'd get too pissed off at the highly-paid actors being unable to say their lines straight.

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A fucking meme I made and posted here got reposted on xitter by someone and got 50 likes
Have I made it bros?

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>>218285133

>>218285438
I mean, the rhoynar were a slave race for the valyrians, and they probably sampled the goods, if you catch my meaning, so the dornish must have at least a bit of dragon blood.

>>218285438
>>Inb4 muh hecklin daynes aren't dornmutts
They aren't.

just saw ep5, it made me think how badly combat with bladed weapons is usually portrayed in film. whenever im watching true crime shit its normal that someone can tank 20-30 stab wounds and still carry on but in film its usually a slice and youre dead or some goofy shit like limbs jus getting hacked clean off through armor and gambeson

its goofy how many hits dunk takes but i think besides the ones in the head i doubt nothing would have enough stopping power to put someone out of commission whos pumped full of adrenaline and fighting for their life. its unironically only over once the adrenaline comes down and you start panicking or you become so fatigued that you lack the ability to stop someone slicing your throat

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....semoc eH

>>218285509
>i doubt nothing would have enough stopping power to put someone out of commission whos pumped full of adrenaline and fighting for their life.
ok, "realism"bro

>>218285478
POV: your bussy is ungaped and you walk past the wrong trailer

>>218285543
just cut my shit up

>>218285543
holy kino…

>>218285543
It's like poetry
It rhymes

>>218285347
season 2 is like that

>>218285543
So much sovl

>>218285533
watch truecrime.

i've seen a nigger crash a car doing 100mph get out get tazed twice and keep running. adrenaline is crazy shit.

>>218285509
.y gf is a trauma surgeon and she said he wouldn't survive it

>>218285596
>crash a car doing 100mph get out
it's not the 50s anymore dude. cars are good at saving their retarded drivers
>get tazed twice
tazers are a fucking meme

Reminder that we are talking about blades.

>>218284944
>Trail of Seven
Is this woman retarded?

>>218285633
blades have zero stopping power, when you're sufficiently pumped up you don't feel bullet wounds so a stab or a slash would be similar.

Wait was the armorer in on it, and gave Dunk a shitty shield on purpose? Because that bitch broke immediately.

Why did they change the ending to Maeker not agreeing for Egg to go?

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I hope Gwin appears in every season

>>218285388
>>218285373
The prophecy sounds like something that gurrm came up with. But it's clearly a later invention and hard to retcon in. Almost every single Targaryan succession would have broken a king-to-heir designation.

And I doubt that what we heard in the show is what gurrm came up with. Because what's in the show would be perfect Targaryan propaganda and should best be promoted widely throughout the realm to legitimize the dynasty. Whatever the Targaryans are keeping secret in Gurrm's mind would be a dark or crazy prophecy that must be kept hidden even from most family members.

>>218285711
All adaptations are cursed to have retarded changes

Dothraki language holds the secrets of azor ahai

Az = sword
Zhor = heart
Ahesh (the only Dothraki work with “ah” as the first two letters) = winter
Nitha = pain, and nitha nitha = a LOT of pain

The sword of the heart of winter caused immense pain. Remember when bran looked into the heart of winter and what he saw made him scream and cry?

>>218284298
>no rubies on the breastplate
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>218285483
The specific Rhoynar that fled under Nymeria and were absorbed into Firstmen/Andal Dorne were never freehold slaves.
>>218285494
>Cuck to the Martells for 700 years
>Fall to Rhoynar-Dornish cultural blending like the rest of Dorne
>Interbreding with other Dornish houses for all this time.
They're as Dornish as they come. Soley waving about their mysterious origins is cope.

>>218285732
Well, you have at least two upcoming seasons where the only recurring characters should be Dunk and Egg.
Unless they change a lot from The Sworn Sword and The Mystery Knight.

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>>218285827

>>218285483
The Rhoynish that came to Dorn are the ones that escaped tha Valyrian rape train. There's actually a crazy amount of slave-taking that picks off from Nymeria's refugees, but the ones that finally reach Dorn are unspoiled.

>>218285851
Brutal

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>>218285798

>>218285543
This gives me a seizure.

>>218285711
cos it made it funny ahahah duhhh *snot drips from nose*

>>218285478
>"what the fuck do you want? a clout in the ear?"

>>218285346
Nah, he killed Mother of Burgers in a pathetic way involving shit, like Drago, in his next book, but now that the show mishandled her ending, he's afraid of publishing the thing as everyone expect her to get a better ending. And he can't come up with a way to change that plot point.

>>218283648
You'd have to be a turbo retard to think a woman can tell that she's pregnant after like what, 2 days? It goes beyond the character just being naive and sweet to being stupidly bad writing

>>218285749
Seems to me like its there so rhaenyra isn’t getting thousands killed just because she wants the chair.
Though Aemond is still a Targaryen so I don’t really get why

>>218285133
>achievable natty
actually yes

why would the seven save dunk if he was just gonna dedicate his life to serving the Targaryens

>>218286047
Because Dunk will get Egg's sister pregnant, leading to Egg becoming unhinged and trying to hatch dragons, killing most of the targs in the Summerhall fire.

>>218286047
The Seven grant free will and we know how it turns out for Dunk and his Targshit masters.

>>218286047
he served the realm

>>218286047
because FOTS allegorizes catholicism which is the most cucked denomination

>>218286047
Because he was innocent, punching Aerion was morally justified

Heroes will rise

>>218285835
I wouldn’t be surprised if Raymun and his new wife wind up attending the wedding in Mystery Knight. Maybe even as part of the hedge knight group Dunk befriends.

>>218286014
It's not bad writing. The whore was Dondarrion's main squeeze for most of the early episodes. She's in his tent in episode 1, outside of it too waiting for him to wake up. So they can continue his mission of populating Westeros with more redheads.

Then once Raymun became a famous knight she swoops in, and convinces the poor fool with 14th century understanding of female anatomy that she's pregnant with him. Now who could she have been fucking recently to get her pregnant? Hmm it's a mystery. The show even helpfully tells you that it's most likely A BOY, hinting at the funny but awkward truth that Raymun's heir will most likely be not of his blood. Duncan even cringes visibly at this on-camera, and the whore pretends not to know him and subtly communicates to him to keep his mouth shut. You might as well have had Dunk turn to the camera and say "seven hells, she's cuckoldin' i'm innit?"

Everyone sane understood that this is a wife's son situation, and despite so many things going well for Raymun there's sometimes weird little quirks to life where a well-meaning idiot can stay happy as long as he stays ignorant. But for some reason there is a massive amount of cope online where people invent complete headcanons about why the opposite is true, where she's not pregnant or Raymun is just playing along, and desperately trying to force those headcanons upon everyone else. Reminds me of the retards who keep insisting Maekar is only pretending that he's unaware of Egg's absence in the final scene, because they're THAT desperate to escape the realization that the show kinda fucked Maekar and Egg up through that narrative decision.

>>218285632
does she treat many hedge knights? also post her feet

>>218286154
Raymun is a fucking nothing, hanging around with Dondarrion is infinitely more profitable especially if she is actually up the duff with his baby.
And people in the 14th century still understood the process of babymaking, especially someone of non peasant stock like a Fossoway.
It's bad writing because it's fucking stupid and detracts from the story

>>218286154
It’s okay, anon; the whore and her bastard son die in the Great Spring Sickness. Our boy Raymun survives and marries a good woman who provides him with many, legitimate, sons and heirs. I’m off it to add it to the Wiki to make it canon.

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>I will take the fucking apple boy’s side

>>218286154
Sad it totally ruins Dunks simple nobility and totally trashes his character. He'd 100% spill the beans to a friend and someone who'd just risked his life for him. To say otherwise like what has happened is just some feminist idea of how chads should behave towards cucked friends(i.e. assist the slut and her lies).

>>218286248
Baelor would never curse.

>>218286248
I don't believe Baelor ever did what he did just for noblebright honour. He was obessed with Targshit reputation with the peasants and saw how unpopular Aerion had made them look. Opposing Maekar was just for Targaryen optics and to retain his own popularity as heir. Fucking Targshits.

Bloodraven is the stupidest fucking character

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poor sams mum and sister, dickon and randall are stupid idiots!!!

>>218286198
Hanging around Dondarrion would accomplish nothing because the guy knows she's a whore and knows she's just a penis receptacle. Hanging around Raymun makes sense for a whore because he's an easy gullible target who'll get married in a second if you get his dick wet, and then you'll be wife of a famous knight with his own cider business. In other news Raymun is a GREEN FUCKING BOY.

>>218286331
Time to move on, Aegor.

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Guys, look. Official HBO account has shown that Rhaenyra and Baelor are so similar. Look! Amazing, honorable and wonderful Targaryens who have so much in common.

>>218286357
Lmao they will try literally anything to puff up that selfish whore.

>Watch the final episode of GOT finally
>Jon Snow literally get away with it
So, people are just cool with the idea of the direct, and sole surviving member of the Targs being let go to lead the Wildlings? No one has a problem with that? He's not to to keep his Night's Watch vows. He never cared about them or took them seriously. So obviously he's going to have a family and become the leader of the Wildings.

How is this a punishment? He gets to be free, lead his own people and gets to abandon his vows that's supposed to make sure his bloodline ends.

>>218286357
Did they forget show rahenyra had a random servant burned and killed so she could fake Laenor's death
Or perhaps they forgot her lie led to Vaemond getting killed while defending the truth?

>>218286346
Yes but he's willing to PAY HER MONEY, if she has his bastard then likely he'll provide her some support, marry her off to a household knight or something, or bribe her to take moontea. Raymun is running a new cadet house while in theory being flat broke. There is no logic to the writing

>>218286377
His knights watch vows ended when he died. Thats the kind of thing you get to do when you’re not a total bitch like Dany and Cersei and everyone likes you

>>218286357
It's Maegor with teats, not Baelor with teats, smdh

>>218286282
But that’s his name

>>218286395
>Raymun is running a new cadet house while in theory being flat broke
It doesn't matter, he's a noble and other fossoways are calling him home to help in cider production, her children will be wealthy nobles as opposed to some dondarrion bastard he would probably not give two shits about

>>218286395
No hes not hes an asshole he’ll just leave her behind when he goes back to his castle

>>218286154
Unless she’d been traveling with Dondarrion for weeks, she couldn’t have known she was pregnant yet.

>>218286312
>t. Lyonel

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>>218286401
>His knights watch vows ended when he died.
Yeah, he got exiled again back to the organization he hated because the Kingdoms didn't want to deal with Greyworm and the other Danny loyalists making a huge fuss that their monarch was murdered by Jon. That was his punishment despite 'dying' again and being released, he was forced back because he committed a crime of killing Danny and the rest of the Nobles didn't want to deal with the fallout.

>>218286357
I love how everyone is in agreement that that’s fucking retarded in the comments. HBO is pandering to nobody

>>218286395
>if she has his bastard then likely he'll provide her some support, marry her off to a household knight or something
lmaoooo

So is Ser Steffon Fossoway going to get his Lordship? He held up his end.

Fundamentally introducing Red and a whole "the struggle of prostitutes and their relation to the nobility" was a fucking stupid idea that wasted considerable runtime. You think they would have learned from Ros' example.

>>218286395
>if she has his bastard then likely he'll provide her some support, marry her off to a household knight or something
lol anon

>>218286521
What lordship was he even going to get? From Aerion or Maeker? Do they have a minor title they can hand to him? Was it a bluff on their end as they wanted a default win?

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>>218285003
SIT. DOWN!

>>218286546
If any knight can make a knight, then presumably and Lord can make another Lord

>>218286357
I'm worried this only means they have absolutely no clue why hotd sucks and why kotsk is better.
>>218286530
The fleabottom mutt taking up half the trial episode was far far worse.

>>218286559
Nay, only royalty can make a lord

>>218286559
A lordship surely is focused around the ownership of land or settlements, those are finite and therefore one must hand it away

>>218286559
smartest nu-/got/ regular

>>218286546
Fossoways can now tax their smallfolk for income instead of it going straight to the crown, as well as having higher social standing and influence in court, better marriage prospects for sons, etc

>>218286603
Do the Fossoways have smallfolk? And if they did they'd already be taxing them and passing only a portion of it upwards, likely to the Tyrells before the crown. They're seemingly a household knight house with some cider production

>>218286625
Even Eustace osgrey the disgraced landed knight had small folk

>>218286554
>I'll have no songs about how brave you died, Kingmaker. There's tens o' thousands dead on your account. Including one very special bee.
>*The Swarm descends*

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Have you taken leave of your senses? This man posted racism outside of /b/

>>218285293
Targshits dont appear in the following novels: next season is a feud between two small nobles for a small ruined castle in the middle of bumfuck upon-nowhere

>>218286645
But is he not already a lord? A very very minor lord but still a lord? So if the Fossoways already have control of some sort of taxable population then what exactly is being offered to Steffon? Blame Martin for being fuzzy on the details of feudalism in his setting.

>>218286691
And that’s why it’s the best dunk and egg story

>>218286678
This man posted a funny meme, as every true shitposter must

>>218286697
I just assume he now gets a price of the pie now, so like a small portion of the taxes go to steffon now, where before it would all go to Tyrell or the crown or whatever

To be honest, if your name's Daemon, your buttocks won't ever touch the iron throne. It is known.

>>218285509
Duncan is heavily implied to be so big, strong and with almost unnatural tankiness thanks to a remote ancient giants ancestry

>>218285732
Shes 16 you fucking paedo

>>218285835
Raymund can appear in Season 2 given its still taking place in the Reach. Same goes for Season 3 as its yet another tournament host by nobles

>>218286047
Westeros existed before the Targshit came; and will still exist once the Targshit finally will finally die for good. But knighthood is perpetual. And knights are The Seven's wandering warriors tasked to protect the Andal commonfolk

>>218286112
Denomination that litterally created IRL knighthood, Crusades and the military Holy Orders is somehow the most "cucked"

>>218286047
Dunk kills the unholy abomination that the Targshits summon with their demon ritual at Summerhall, saving Westeros from the diabolical spawn of his former squire.

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>>218286725
could have been worse
Your Dad is crazy and named you afther your murderous ancestor.
And worst of all The Author forgot abaut you.

>>218284002
Obviously Bittersteel. No reason why the man would survive to 69 if otherwise.

>>218286697
No even before the rebellion Eustace was just a landed Knight i think

>>218286377
He dosent give a fuck about his Targshit ancestry and blood ties matter nothing for the Willdlings outside the Thenn. Hes as relevant for the house as any unknown bastard of prolific Kings like Aegon II, Aegon IV, or Bobby B

>>218286866
>And worst of all The Author forgot abaut you.
he didn't forget him
>see Varys and Young Griff

>>218286714
No noble taxing his peasantry would be required to hand 100% of the taxes over to his liege the Fossoways aren't royal tax collectors or something, like at most maybe he now has to hand over less but that's not exactly a glamorous lordship promised is it it'd just be a renegotiation of tax rates, plus it'd be a slap to the Tyrells now getting less.
>>218286884
Guess then the question becomes what's the difference between a landed knight and a lord?

>>218286494
the lesbians on twitter are loving it thou

>>218286866
maegor brightflame is illyrio

>>218286419
Realistically, one of the Fossoways who isn't a young kid would quickly clock her as a whore of common birth and tell Raymun that if she's carrying a kid, it can't possibly be his.

>>218284002
>>218286876
Its clearly Daemon. He was stated as a charismatic chad loved by almost everybody, to the point even his enemies gave the faults of his rebellion to Bittercell and his bros

got/hotd/dunk/wildcards

>>218286841
>being subservient to a central authority across the world who larps as roman isn't cuckoldry
kek, its funny because every great power who told the pope to fuck off eventually became a great power (britain, france) meanwhile the vatican as we know today is something envisioned by a failed dictator and the current pope goes around licking african refugee feet

>>218286950
That was just lookism. People loved daemon because he was hot, but bloodraven saw through the facade into the vain sociopath beneath. It was poor bittersteel who was scapegoated as the villain, all he ever was was a loyal brother to daemon, who manipulated him using his insecurities and traumas with bloodraven sympathized with

>>218286901
A Lord outranks a landed Knight and has more legal rights. A lords holdings would include landed knights who are sworn to him but not the other way around. I think Lady Webber says at one point that as a landed knight Eustace doesn’t have the right to punish her people no matter what they do.
You would never see a landed knight sitting closer to the lord giving the feast than a visiting Lord I think.
The only thing is not all holdings are created equal. A landed knight in a wealthy part of the reach can easily have more smallfolk and income than a lesser Lord in some shitty place like The Crag.

>>218286312
Two things can be true at the same time. Baelor can be both a truly honourable knight who wants to help Dunk because he knows it's the right thing to do, and he can also be an intelligent political maneuverer who realises it's a great PR opportunity for House Targaryen to stick up for the little guy. Neither motive for his actions contradict the other

>>218286841
>Crusades and the military Holy Orders
All of those were gigantic failures and helped muslims more than christians.

So does the son of a landed knight become a lord? Knighthood isn't hereditary, after all.

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>>218287065
This would be way more interesting

>>218287168
Nah, he'd basically just be a pretty well off commoner until he earned his own knighthood

Better to be a unripe mad dreamer than a wormy rotten neet and wagie


https://youtu.be/vV864C-IJdc?si=Ivx9eg4nOnHjGoT0

It’s such an unbelievably nice day yet across the world there was war. It’s almost like our God is mocking us too

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Baelor being le good was merely an expression of targshit madness

>>218285711
Because it makes no sense for Maekar to trust his only non failure (or maester) son with some random asshole he met 2 days ago

>>218284803
I'm music-stupud so I had no idea who Ed Shereen was. At the time I thought it was weird that the scene stayed on him a couple seconds too long like "are we supposed to know this random dude?"

>>218284315
>>218283881
GURRM has also said that genetics in ASOIAF aren't the same as in real life, so, shit he even weirder

>>218287272
>Ser, I will only agree for your son to be my squire if I can spend unlimited amounts of unsupervised time with him and take him to locations where nobody knows who he is and there are no witnesses

"Any knight can make a knight" is such a dumb rule.

>>218287293
>GURRM has also said that genetics in ASOIAF aren't the same as in real life
Joffrey Baratheon - Golden haired

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>>218284035
KEK

what if FOTS isnt catholicism

what if targshittery represents HRE, and FOTS is the pope and dragons represent imperial authority

what if rhellor is protestantism or orthodoxy and martin luther is is azor ahai

I think the Targs went mad so often because much like how whites like cold and blacks might do better in the sun. The Targs are literally dragons. They build a slave empire for 5000 years killed water mages and sent them to dorne and thought Westeros was puny. If they went against the white walkers they would have won. However there arrogance cost them. So that constant conflict with the Targs being normal rulers and dragon lords is at conflict. It’s like Jon Snow but an entire family dynasty.

>>218287303
A true knight can finish his story

- HBO to GRRM

>>218287154
Litterally Catholics were the only won that managed to push back the maommetans (Sicily, Iberia), while all the other denomination were either BTFO (oriental churches) or lowkey allied with them (protestantism)

>>218283766

Stupidest shit I've ever read, HotD is utter trash.

>>218287337
This is only if you count the medieval period. The Russian Empire spent centuries bullying the Ottomans and pushing their borders back. The whole reason the Crimean War was started was because Britain and France didn't want Russia to conquer Constantinople and gain access to the Mediterranean

Why didn’t writers of HOTD listen to George and HBO? The whole point of the “Dance Of The Dragons” is that dragons killing other dragons aka in fighting leads to others death and at the end nothing is left. There was no good characters. It’s seething incest freaks who got cocky and lost everything

>>218287320
Viserys had healthiest way to deal with it. Building Valryian miniatures.

>kills 13 dragons for a fucking metal chair of swords designed to be uncomfortable

>HOTD writers : our lesbians :) our queens

>>218287381
Because while I'm sure that would make a decent fauxumentary, it's not exactly a thrilling storyline for an interpersonal family drama show

>>218287301
Kek yeah basically

>>218287218
Do commoners even have the right to own land?

they shouldve cut more Jaimies limbs off

>>218287366
Yea the whole anti-Russia histeria by the anglos was stupid: but by the XIX thinking religion still played a big role in diplomatic decisions is a little anacronistic. The Tzar had legions of steppe muslims fighting for him

>>218287168
They inherit the lands. They probably have to be knighted to inherit the title of landed knight, but that's just a matter of training your heirs and eventually conferring knighthood upon them.

>>218287407
People would have watched it. I disagree. Look how hype people are for Blackfyre rebellion despite it being another Targ vs Targ story. Also it would be more popular and leads to more seasons so better pacing

>>218287417
Yeah, landowners who aren't nobility are called landed gentry. Merchants and such, or younger sons who don't inherit but do well for themselves

>>218287272
It is meant to be a strange decision that shows that perhaps Maekar is a stranger man than initial impressions would suggest. He's a stern asshole initially but after the Trial he is pensive and melancholic after killing his brother, thinking hard about his family and everything that went wrong. He recognizes, just like the reader is meant to recognize, that his two sons who were raised as Targ princes became bad seeds and a large part of it had to do with the fact that they were not exposed to the seven kingdoms, did not experience the dangers of the world, did not sleep in ditches and eat hard salt beef. Comfort and courtly autism damaged them, possibly.
Thinking of this, of his dead brother and his unlikely allegiance for the hedge knight, Maekar decides what the hell and makes a strangle gamble with his youngest son. Maybe the dangers of the road are an acceptable risk if the alternative is to Egg just definitely turn into a cunt like his older prince brothers did.

It's supposed to be an unusual fairy-tale decision that feels like a gamble. And Egg is ultimately inconsequential in the big picture, Maekar in the book isn't all that warm of a father and already has a bunch of kids, Egg is like 30th in line to the throne and there are too many Targs. Besides, the arrangement wasn't meant to last forever - Dunk was only supposed to take on Egg as a squire for a couple of years, with them checking in routinely and having contingency plans.

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>>218283536
egg is icsh

>Good God it’s Jamie fucking Lannister

What did our Lord and Savior Christ mean by this?

>>218287477
He's eerily similar to the spoonbending kid in the matrix

>>218287407
It shouldn’t have been an interpersonal family drama it should have been a music video for a death metal song about a dragon family slaughtering each other

>>218287453
Blackfyre is hyped because unlike the Dance we still dont know almost litterally nothing of the actuall war aside what happened at Red Grass. The very reasons why Daemons
revolted well over a decade after his father supposedly nominated him as the new king is obscure. And people love mystery

>>218287186
Liked Roose from the moment George introduced him.

>>218287381
Because when HBO and its lackeys like Condal look at the Dance as a story, they don't see it for what it is (Targs at their most decadent destroying their own dynasty because they've become too stupid and haughty and their ideas of succession are utterly retarded).

They see it as an opportunity to tap into what they believe are rising demographics (chaste lesbianism and female-coded drama possibly on the rise in on-screen fiction? = Rhaenicent, masses of Dany/Targ stans still leftover after Game of Thrones = Rhaenyra as faux-Dany and the Targaryens fetishized as much as possible).

So to them, the best plan was not to tell the story as it is but use it as a vehicle for gynocentric fiction and Dany/Targ fetishism. Because they believed that's where the money and attention truly is.

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Bore the fookin' sword. Simple as

>>218287065
I hope any adaptation follows something like this. The two lesser bastards bonding as kids despite the whole bracken/blackwood feud would be kino.

>>218287530
>Because they believed that's where the money and attention truly is.
Correctly as it turns out

>>218286380
Forget? The never cared. Of all the three shows this one gives zero fuck about the smallfolk. Murdered to let a gay nobleman live his best life in the east, killing countless smallfolk during Aegon's coronation, only to spare the nobility, locking the dragonseed in a room while dragons roast and eat them, no fucks given. Which would be fine, if the writers weren't trying to convince us that the Blacks are the objectively "good" side.

Imagine how frustrating being George's publisher is. This series is a money printing machine and he hasn't released a new installment in 15 years

>>218287539
No wonder Aegon The Unworthy favored him

>>218287555
Checked, but I don't think so. I'll gladly take some hard salt beef over Targ fetishism and Iron Throne drama.

God I wish Dunk and Egg season 2 was coming out instead. This summer is suppose to be hot so it would match the story

I don’t remember a single line from HOTD but I’ll remember “stop raping ser” and “get up” for life

>>218287595
When are they releasing s2? I remember they filmed s1 really fucking fast

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>>218287561
Greenchads stay winning.

>>218287497
yes if you have metal genre for each house

>folkmetal
n*rth
>glam metal
lannister
>death metal
bolton
>powermetal
targshits
>numetal/metalcore
d*rne

>>218287624
No 'I will take Ser Duncan's side'?

>>218287624
You don't remember "At last, I have become a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms"?

>>218287276
Same.

Zero cultural impact.

>>218287682
Kys kike

>>218287569
not as bad as Rothfus' publisher who went out of business without seeing a single word of Kingkiller book 3

This is fucking ridiculous. He never fucking said "TAOOBA".

>>218287665
It’s nine anon…

>>218287730
I’m gonna punch you and that shitting kid for spreading this nonsense.

Why do we pretend peasants are good people again? who the fuck cares if nobles get them killed

I'm continuing through my first read of The World of Ice and Fire. I just learned that not only did the North defeat all Andal landings, but king Theon "the Hungry Wolf" Stark build a fleet, sailed his army over to Andalos and wrecked the place.

Why are southrons such losers lmao? They just let themselves get get rolled and raped by any and all invaders.

>>218287761
I agree somewhat but someone with power should guide

>>218287624
>I don’t remember a single line from HOTD
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO?

sex with septa unella

Why wasn’t Daemon made king if he had a sword? Can someone explain?

>>218287762
saar

>>218287795
Arrow beats sword

>>218287788
This, but Septa Lemore.

I can't stand hotd it bored me to tears but dunk is great. Wish they'd just cancel the former to make more of the latter.

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>>218287741
This show has revealed to me there are many people online that like to pretend they are deep into lore, but reveal themselves to not be by trying to smugly act like they are. Like when a casual viewer asked why there aren't any Starks at the tournament, and their first thought is that the North doesn't do the whole knight thing instead of they are thousands of miles away.

>>218287795
Aegon the 4th was a fucking kike

>>218287795
He was still younger than Daeron, legitimate or not.

>>218287761
The ones that stormed the dragonpit and killed all the dragons were literal heroes. Ruined house targshit in a single night lmao.

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>>218287805
>kpop
>2026

>Valyria had 300 attack ready dragons

“Old” more like advanced

>>218287795
he forgot the shield

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>>218287833
yeah it's been bad for the past few years

>>218287306
What's your point? Genetics are still hereditary just following different rules. All Lannisters are blond but all Baratheons are black-haired, assuming that both of these families regularly marry into families with the opposite trait this couldn't happen in real life so the rules must be different.

>>218287761
The show doesnt even care. A big part of the novella was that the povvos had Dunk’s back but all that got cut lol