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Arthouse & Classics
Arirang Arirang edition
>QotD
Favuorite Korean /film/?
>Bonus
Favourite Korean director?
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Queen of /film/
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>These days, however, the entire concept of what is a movie is more inclined to inspire contempt in me than generosity. Which is fair enough, because by comparison the movies of the last six years make the 80s seem like the 30s. I’ve seen movies I liked since then – West Side Story (2021); Horizon: An American Saga Chapter 1 and 2 (both 2024), a few others, but nothing that really held me in its grip and swept me away to the magical land of enjoyment that I use to visit regularly and was the reason I loved movies above all other artforms. These days I’d rather read a book.
>But a suspenseful new movie has come out that did grab me and held me for its entire duration: Joe Carnahan’s The Rip, starring the dynamic duo of Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. The film is an exciting cop thriller with a novel premise that man- ages to deliver the goods in really clever ways. The whole package worked for me: Carnahan’s direction, the splendid cast, the look of the film (courtesy of cinematog- rapher Juan Miguel Azpiroz) – but the real powerhouse component of this splendid collection is the sensational screenplay by Carnahan and Michael McGrale.
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>Being a cynical fuck about modern movies I kept expecting this one to drop the narrative ball and it never did. If I made a list of some of my favourite cop flicks it would include The French Connection; Freebie and the Bean; Busting (1974), which is basically Freebie and the Bean sans irony; Electra Glide in Blue (1973); To Live and Die in L.A. (1985); Bullitt (1968); Nighthawks (1981); The Black Marble (1980) and David Mamet’s Homicide (1991). I’d also include a few 70s TV movies like Foster & Laurie (1975), ‘Starsky and Hutch’ (the 1975 pilot) and Last of the Good Guys (1978). (I consider cops chasing serial killers Dirty Harry, 1971; Cruising, 1980; Se7en, 1995 a different sub-genre.) While most of those movies have high-flying moments that are more spectacular than The Rip, there usually were some flaws that required my forgiveness. This movie betters its elders by sheer virtue of never making a mistake.
In Electra Glide, Robert Blake’s performance, the mythic Monument Valley locations and all his routine encounters with motorists on the road were great. But the murdermystery and the whole subplot featuring Jeannine Reilly and the always-dull Mitchell Ryan were a drag. After one great setpiece after another inthe excellent Freebie and the Bean, the one that ends the show in the Candlestick Park men’s room is an ugly bummer. William Petersen and Willem Dafoe are terrific in To Live and Die in L.A., but John Pankow as Petersen’s partner is a miscast disaster. And when it comes to The French Connection, it’s William Friedkin’s doco-style direction that makes it so realistic, not the glaring implausibility of Ernest Tidyman’s hack screenplay. Would the French dopers really leave a car stuffed with so much smack on the street, so the cops can do exactly what they did? Carnahan and Michael McGrale’s script is just a much better and more cleverly written tale. This movie betters its elders by sheer virtue of never making a mistake
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Who are the most interesting female characters in /film/?
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The Housemaid is a classic.
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That bitch was sexo
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Ms. Kwak's friend too.
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i'm gonna watch it....at some point
it seems to not have made any particular splash, but the films look curious
Dreams getting the Bear was strange tho, not only wasn't it a world premiere, it wasn't even a 2025 premiere, the film had a theatrical release in Norway in 2024, but this is just my autism speaking where i feel like awards should highlight interesting shit of the specific year
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there's an 90s korean film about a blasian korean kid whose mother slept with an american soldier, lots of dog abuse but i liked it in a sense that you won't find films that raw anymore, i like old korean films, especially the 90s era for their unapologetic violence
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this but their unapologetic terminal illness melodramas
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the korean mind isnt art compatible.
everything they do is just a recreation of something else thats better. look at their cars- the whole elevator pitch is:
>duuude it looks just like a bentley but its wayyyy cheaper!
>duuude its JUST like a porsche SUV but we made it so its wayy cheaper
look at their food:
>duuude its a fusion of other cultures
>we totally didnt just cobble together a bunch of slop and call it our own
look at quite literally any other form of art:
>duude its not that we have 0 notable painters total
>its that we were assfucked by japanese occupation 100 years ago so we haven't recovered yet
look at their entire culture as a whole:
>dude its totally not a shitty version of american and japanese culture squished together
>its definitely incredibly unique something we created on our own
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Korean derangement syndrome, sad.
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>get this
>for breakfast we have rice with SOUP
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yeah, better to have a bowl of sugar instead
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here is a short list of Korean films to get you started with arirang april
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Name a better New Hollywood girl.
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is kfagging just another form of waifucooming?
do we /kslop/ so we can edge to women who only look good after six figures of plastic surgery?
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This homewrecker
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Not really when they have Korea derangement syndrome like
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Boomers had it so easy
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I'm watching the movie 'Parasite'
The mise-en-scene and the photography is above the mediocrity of our century.
But my suspension of disbelief is breaking away.
Minute 16: the son is trying to make a big speech (typical of east asian cinema) to his tutored student... he is palpating her wrist pulse wrongly... my suspension of disbelief is in peril
Minute 17: The milf turns her back to the camera and the editor cuts the scene immediately to a different scene, giving only a fraction of a second to admire her well-shaped buttocks. This is infuriating. I'd forgive the editor if he added ninjas or gunfights but he is not even trying to do his best.
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>Why am I temporarily blocked from posting?
Users are temporarily blocked from posting when there is a pending ban request placed on their IP. This block lasts 15 minutes from the time a janitor submits a ban request, and is removed immediately if the request is denied by a moderator. If the request is approved, a regular ban is applied.
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>>219426174
I cannot, she had a unique elvish
beauty and was a genuinely talented actress to boot. Watched Badlands and Prime Cut this past weekend and fell in love with her all over again.
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I know I'll be crucified for this but Sybill really has never done anything for me, she always seemed very cold and bland. Frankly an inferior version of Jessica Lange.
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>american and japanese culture squished together
You gotta be fair here: It doesn't really take anything from Japanese culture, it only takes the mold (i.e. the empty form) of Japanese pop-culture, with none of the tradition. k-pop superficially looks like j-pop, Korean animation superficially looks like anime, Korean manwha superficially look like manga, and so on. Ironaically, Korean films look nothing like Japanese films, but that's probably because the Hollywood style is easier to copy and has more (international) mass appeal.
When it comes to content, it's all US American "culture", and those quotation marks do some heavy lifiting: Because we're not talking about the very rare 18th or 19th century American author who actually contributed to world literature, or the even rarer American director who dared to make a meaningful film. No, it is once again the pop-culture that Koreans take and adapt into their own pulp.
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No that's really abnormal for an attempt at horror... I mean I love the tone of comedies like The Trouble With Harry but k-horror has that sort of shlocky Roger Corman feel. I'd argue that Coppola's DRACULA is very sincere about the spiritual core contrasts of its characters, it just lacks an understanding of the weight of a human soul and the ramifications of spiritual decision-making; horror should never be without that. Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Pulse or Doppleganger seem much more adept at conveying horror even if the tone isn't serious, the characters are played consistently.
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Time to rewatch Carrie too.
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Any French fans lurking? I’ve always bounced off French Cinema and half forced myself through watching Breathless because of its importance, it was fine. I was about ready to drop Godard but decided to give Contempt a go and it was a borderline transcendental experience for me, not wholly spiritual but I absolutely loved it. Any recommendations for something else in a similar vein?
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Cannot believe I fell for the 'De Palma is bad' meme. This was excellent. What are some other movies where use of analog equipment is essential to the plot and has lots of sequences and shots of characters using analog equipment?
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Contempt is fundamentally about making films in Technicolor and CinemaScope. I suggest the films of Howard Hawks, Nicholas Ray, Anthony Mann, Budd Boetticher, the list goes on.
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This is not to say that the Korean directions are 'doing horror wrong', just that there is an element of shadowplay that they are capable of tapping into that doesn't resemble traditional horror for me. The dream-life, the dream-villain are maybe a bit thinner and less grounded but sometimes that's a conceptual asset; for example what's that Korean action film about the guy who keeps waking up in a new body all the time?
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>Just Orson Welles answering questions for an hour and a half
>you can notice that everybody is familiar with the source material
>the questions are insightful
>all the answers are interesting at worst and truly illuminating at best
>no imbeciles trying to derail the discussion with inane questions
>you can feel a sense of enjoyment in the hall
best thing I've seen so far this year
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Chloe was in the Sisters remake. You're thinking of the wrong De Palma film.
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he doesnt talk about Kazan in this one
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I miss 2006-2012 YouTube. First you start out funny, it gets funnier and funnier, then it gets a little surreal, a little offbeat and then before you know it you're watching some extremely creepy and violating. This really compelling descent into the human condition, it was so great.
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/adventure/
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Travis Scott not even a getting negligence charge is the definition of black privilege. Where I grew up that motherfucker would have been swinging from a tree before he even had the chance to suck his teeth, the nigger.
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>here's that horrificaly ugly girl i was talking about that repulses everyone!
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Chloe didn't hit the wall when that film was made and so she was even more miscast, Spacek is at least slightly offbeat, Chloe was just straight up conventionally attractive.
It was also full of CGI slop.
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>plagiarizes his female student's script
>she accuses him of plagiarism
>instead of admitting and paying a fine or something deny it, and say that she is lying knowing damn well that Iran is a patriarchial society and she can get into deep trouble
>she still wins the case which means that he 100% stole that script
>flee Iran saying "i'm too liberal for this chud ass country"
Farahdi is a vile faggot and a hack
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Distance Montage
emotional floor
нaчaлo
кoнeц
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God, French women are peak.
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Just saying that she was never the same as before filming with Kubrick.
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the film is by kim ki duk, address unknown, great film, in a depressing kind of way
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She was already crazy, you were just probably raised by women and think they shouldn't take responsibility for anything. She didn't take responsibility for being a fucking retarded crazy moron and she suffered as a result, should've taken the precautions that were necessary maybe then she wouldn't crack like an egg over a goddamn movie. Women are fucking stupid, crazy and retarded.
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She was crazy before. She was crazy and broken after.
>should've taken the precautions that were necessary maybe then she wouldn't crack like an egg over a goddamn movie.
Well, you usually don't get to relive the story of a film you're acting in. Not sure you can blame her for not expecting that.
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Of course a Fr*nch director would waste Julie Baker on age-gap slop
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To stay safe from me, you needed to be lucky every single night. To get you, I only needed to be lucky once.
-Scarecrow.
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The Journals of Musan
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Actually I did a double feature, Black Narcissus and 49th Parallel in the same night. 49th Parallel seems to not be nearly as acclaimed as Black Narcissus but I found it to be just as good if not better. Powell & Pressburger truly knew how to elevate propaganda into art better than anyone.
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Anyway, what should I watch next on my Powell/Pressburger kick? Peeping Tom? A Matter of Life and Death? Something else? The ones I've watched are:
>The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (my favorite)
>The Red Shoes
>Black Narcissus
>49th Parallel
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What the FUCK did he mean by this?
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FUCKIN CINEPHILES
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Cinema is when I fantasize about necking with All American Sweetheart Sissy Spacek
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Ninja Scroll
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Moronic creatures, and, as always, media illiterate to the boot. All of that could be also easily said about Japanese modern / postmodern era. Especially ridiculous is this notion of "tradition" in weeb media, even though the visual cues or narrative tropes used by the likes of Ozu (or-who-the-hell-is-your-favourite-cunteyed-director) have nothing to do with Japanese tradition (which is mostly bog-standard Han Asian Confucian calque anyway). Things you perceive as "traditionally Japanese" are just a bunch of orientalist cliches formed under the influence of the West around the time of Meiji Restoration. Hell, modernist Japanese writers have more roots in classic Russian literature than anything.
>Korean animation superficially looks like anime, Korean manwha superficially look like manga
Yeah, tell me how "Breaker" in not like "Overbleed" in its core, or how "Distant Sky" is not using the same techniques as "Dragon Head".
>Hollywood style is easier to copy and has more (international) mass appeal
Tell us what is this "Hollywood style" and how well it fares nowadays on any market.
>very rare 18th or 19th century American author who actually contributed to world literature
>or the even rarer American director who dared to make a meaningful film
And, of course, a bit of self-hating contrarianism – typical for an anonymous USAnian undesirable. Because I'm more than sure that all of you are muttoids. Thirty-something Toonami-bred basement retards kvetching at popular trends you perceive as new, even though they'd be older than your kids if you had any.
My first time in these threads, and I see this ugly display. Fucking /tv/, I wish Indians would eat all of you alive.
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absoLUTELY smoochable body
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I think /film/ will agree with me that this kraut whore killed her husband in this?
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>this kraut whore killed her husband in this?
no, and there is zero suspense with this because when the wife and the blind kid discover the body, she reacts WITH SURPRISE
the twist with the kid and the dog is much better tho
personally, I blame the husband for expecting empathy from a woman
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I vote 'blanca, because Cinema is when you fall in love with Ingrid Bergman.
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nice bush
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Kek, you dirty devil.
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>mfw i had the same reaction to donnie darko if im being honest when i first saw it
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I'm getting Chantal vibes from this qt.
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Arirang April marches on
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The Mission w De Niro and Irons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_TWY7Q0uc
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Shozin Fukui (director of 964 Pinocchio) passed away today
RIP to a real one
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Pinocchio?
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>>219472316
>heres a link to a despicable coomer page on fucking reddit
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take a rest unc
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only bc you posted a top alltimer kino
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Rohmer and Bresson were right. Cinephiles know very little about the other arts like painting, literature, plays, etc. If you only watch films, you will only create the same films. As the great Stendhal once said: "It was the other arts which taught me the art of writing".
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>kill her before she sees you.
>no!
>so kill yourself.
>how?
>let her go.
i look forward to this day for you as well. its an incredible film.
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>HAHAHAHAAH FAGGOT !
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Huge F, Pinocchio is my favorite from whatever the fuck you'd call that genre.
Need to give Rubber's Lover another watch, I remember it being cool but I was too stoned to tell what was happening plotwise.
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