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Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete/Gushing Over Magical Girls Anonymous 02/04/26(Wed)01:59:27 No.4524680 [Reply]▶
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Magenta's time to shine, goodbye Fallen Nurse!
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>>4502812No, seriously, are we getting that S2 or not
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>No, seriously, are we getting that S2 or not
OP, that was confirmed a while back during the new year. You must have missed it. Don't worry, direct confirmation from the official Twitter means we are in a good shape.
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In season 1 we got UtenaKiwi and MatamaNemo. In season 2 we got HarukaKaoruko and MichikoRanda. In season 3 we will have PescaRouge and KorisuMakina.
What's your Season 4 couples prediction?
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>high likelihood
Utena/Magia Azul continuation
Kiwi fucks Magia Baiser merchandise
>medium likelihood
Nemo and/or Kiwi fuck Machina
Baiser molests Imatatio or Blance to rial up the other one
>low likelihood but I want it to happen
Sulfer figures out she can embarrass Baiser enough that she runs away from a fight, keeps asking for her number
Azul hyperfocuses on Leberblume after being shadow puppeted once
Matama/Haruka sloppy drunk makeout session
Venalita/Vatz reconciliation (GRAPHIC MASCOT ON MASCOT SEX)
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I wouldn't mind if they made a spin-off manga about Enormeeta just hanging out, they're a really fun group to follow around
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Anyone else lowkey find a more healthy relationship with their fetishes through this manga? I used to be into corruption stuff but the side of me that admired heroines always hated myself after reading those doujins.
I managed to tame it after realising its a similar complex to Utena but with the scales tipped too far towards lust. Thanks Baiser!
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>>4525879
I had the opposite experience where I used to hate myself for my fetishes, then learned about BDSM and a healthy way to go about them, and then saw myself completely in Utena and her journey when I found the manga.
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>lowkey
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>>4525988
I can't help being a zoomer, try as I might it still leaks out
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Decent haul from WonFes.
Baiser apron Pop Up Parade L
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>>4526520
Azul KDColle. Only Magenta, Alice and Leber are left in this line out of the main eight.
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Leopard powered up form
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>>4526522
And Baiser powered up form. I think this one looks awesome, best Mahoako figure so far.
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I'm the third option, where I already had a pretty healthy relationship with my fetishes, and Utena reminds me too much of the budding kinkster I once was. I just want to sit her down and explain the concept of informed consent to her. Because as much of a kick she seems to get out of playing with Tres Magia (mostly) against their will, absolutely nothing compares to the feeling of having a pair of girls naked and begging for you to lock your collar on them.
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>>4526586
You're pretty close to me (2nd one) actually, though I myself am close to the first one and simply the work that made me switch from a weird relationship with my kinks to proper BDSM predates MahoAko. That said, the manga never says it fully explicitly but it's kind of implicit (and even addressed at a certain point) that magical girl fights are BDSM Scenes and being in one is unspoken consent, which is why the tone switches so drastically when instead you have regular sex (Hotel scene) or actual rape (chapter 35). The talk Utena and Michiko have after her redemption is pretty much acknowledging their conflicts are kayfabe.
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There's no love present in this series at all. A series like Mahoako is more along the lines of treating consent like a right that is revoked when someone commits some wrongdoing or misdemeanor in your eyes or maybe you just don't fucking like them. It's more along the lines of this idea of revenge or punishment or "justice", as with most fetish and shipping media of the same kind.
Tres Magia being lesser people, is what makes them unworthy of love and decided that they don't get to say no.
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>>4526912
>and decided that they don't get to say no
*and what decides they don't get to say no
Anyway the point is that Tres Magia and the others are so completely dehumanized on purpose, nobody respects them or likes them so therefore any kind of rape or abuse is therefore "deserved"
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Which mahoako could defeat Walpurgisnacht?
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>>4526993
She won't be a "loli." She'll just stay an absolute midget height with a flat chest.
But ginormous hips, and thighs grown through squats and training.
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>>4527007
Vena-han will just extend her creepy little hands out, enlarge them, and then crush Walpurgis' head between her hands. All for daring to interfere. This'll happen off-screen so Enormeeta will be none the wiser.
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Anyone notice that all the Utena x sayo shippers are retarded anime-onlies? I never saw or heard anyone seriously push this ship until the anime aired, and I only see it continuing to be forced by people who refuse to read the manga.
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>>4527381
The problems are:
1. Anime only
2. Says doesn't have a girlfriend
3. Utena doesn't do bdsm on Kiwi enough
Number 3 is a rather big issue. Baiser's whole shtick is being a bdsm magical girl but she always does the good stuff on Azul, Kiwi has only gotten electrocution chapters which makes her sort of ignorable among bdsm enthusiasts. She relies too much on sex and not on enough on getting tied up.
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>>4527381
Well I think the main reason for that is that you make up things in your head to get mad at if I had to guess. People paired them together since long before the anime and continued to do so now, both here and in the rest of the fanbase, and all the new UtenaXSayo shippers from the anime I've seen went on to read the manga.
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>>4527381
>Anyone notice that all the Utena x sayo shippers are retarded anime-onlies?
Most of them, but not all.
>I never saw or heard anyone seriously push this ship until the anime aired
There are few who pushed it, especially during early chapters. But yeah, the anime is giving this ship a second chance to sail.
>and I only see it continuing to be forced by people who refuse to read the manga.
They read the manga and interpreted the story in their own way (headcanon), like 'Utena hated Kiwi for being a sex pest' or 'Sayo knows Utena is Baiser.' But refusing to read the manga is new for me. Tell me, where do you encounter them, anon?
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>>4527381
Im more annoyed at animeonlies believing Utena is a rape machine to anyoneeven b*yswhen even the anime says she's only interested in magical girls, and only those who are heroic
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>>4527381
Akihiro Ononaka is anime-onlies
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>>4527432
>anon complained about UteSayo Shippers being anime-only
>post Baizul merch
Anon, I...
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>>4527381
It's a pairing that is much more to /a/'s tastes (see: meaningless bdsm sex rather than actual yuri romance), so the anime airing and /a/ manga threads increasing in popularity brought in a bunch of tourists who push it over the actual romantic pairing.
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>>4527436
I just can't see the romance in Utena feeling like she has to force herself to like Kiwi because of the obsession over her. Even when they went into the love hotel together, Utena was acting like she was obligated to it
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>>4527539
You're adding more fuel to the fire. We're almost 60 chapters in, and you still talk about their relationship like the hotel chapter just came out yesterday. You were supposed to compare their early chapter to its current chapter counterpart, not the other way around.
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>Kiwi has only gotten electrocution chapters which makes her sort of ignorable among bdsm enthusiasts. She relies too much on sex and not on enough on getting tied up.
There's a weird irony to it. It's a BDSM manga in theory, but then the fans and the mangaka mostly use BDSM as a tool of violence. Simultaneously they look down on these BDSM acts. Kiwi isn't subjected to it. Why? Because BDSM in this context is primarily insulting and an act of violence instead of any kind of love.
Kiwi isn't subjected to it because they respect Kiwi, they see Kiwi as a person and therefore she's above that othered subhuman role. Kiwi is a human and "above" BDSM so she'd only ever really play another dom role to the subhuman toys who could be abused and maimed and killed and raped without care
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Yeah, just look at that face of pure hatred. And aimed exclusively at Tres Magia of course, because of course Baiser's own teammates are above being wrapped up in tentacles. She'd especially never put tentacles down Kiwi's panties.
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Damn, is it just me, or is Utena a ridiculously misunderstood character? It feels like people don't understand that the series title isn't ironic; it's the truth about the character, and it seems like that's completely lost on many people. BDSM is an act of love, not senseless violence; otherwise, it would be just regular torture, which is something completely different.
How can people call themselves fans of something without even understanding the most basic aspects of the work? The premise.
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>>4527558
>That was revenge
>As punishment for killing magical girls
Which in the end is no different at all from how the magical girls are treated
>>4527586
>How can people call themselves fans of something without even understanding the most basic aspects of the work?
My point is calling it out as bullshit. In practice, how it's actually utilized as opposed to the lies and justifications for it, it's actually more about hatred and violence and painting other people as subhuman.
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>>4527688
After the incident at the hotel, the kiwi intentionally avoided Utena, they reconciled and the kiwi got a new transformative form.
Is there a scene where have a "SM" or a "yuri" after that, until Momo appears?
it's all about the kiwi growling at another girl, and smelling sleeping utena.
Is this what you're talking about as their relationship development chapter?
Rather, I think it's Utekiwi fans who should be grateful to the ANIME production team. Before the anime aired, Utekiwi had 6 Pixiv posts. Utesayo had 9, 1 private conversion.
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Happy Valentine's Day, anons. Despite all of this argument, I always love you.
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Ononaka drew best enemies.
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>>4528333
Nope.
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>>4527414
Utena has literally said that the heroines are for fun, while the villians are for serious engagement (like kiwi)
But she still molested Kiwi in their first encounter. She was clearly not a heroine and she still havent fall in love at that time, they had just met
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Anon, I don't know what humorless boomer feminism you read that lead you to this, but you have to stop.
It's a made up story about transforming magical girls doing ridiculous and erotic battles as they navigate their first relationships.
You have to be able to suspend your disbelief and consider the work within it's own framework - not in whatever campus-politik frame you're trying to force on it.
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Wait, really? They were purple the entire time?
What the fuck?
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New Magia Baiser La Verita illustration.
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new chapter in 24 or so hours, predictions?
will sensei go through and show the true La Verita of Magenta or will he troll us and have Vena or someone else cuntblock us of it
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Volume 12 has a preview image.
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IT'S NOW
https://takecomic.jp/episodes/c60fb2db5d295
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>New form
Flag bearer fairy? It's cute but it also reminds me of FGO Jeanne with its AoE healing.
>More importantly
DARK FORM IS STILL THERE!!! I was worried it would never be seen again but seems Baiser didn't fully cure it. I felt Imitatio magically being the cure was a little too easy honestly but I am fine with it if didn't completely cure Magenta. It's a home remedy cooked by a Baiser not an actual purification spell so Magenta still being somewhat corrupted is perfectly fine. Good chapter overall.
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>Author didn't drag out Magenta's pure la verita BUT didn't kill off dark Magenta
Best of both worlds. The author managed to redeem himself after the travesty of getting rid of Kiwi's cat form for her asymmetrical La Verita. He could have easily fucked up and given us only one option with Magenta but now, everyone is satisfied. I'll give props where they are due, the author avoided what could have been a massive mistake.
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Curiously, this chapter brings up the issue of how to romanise マキナ as it's being used both in battle against Imitatio and casually between civvy Enormeeta. Granted I dunno if Makina's identity would be privy to Imitatio like the other Enormeeta members, or indeed if she just has the one name and the magic obstruction thing alone makes the magical girls none the wiser, but as a stopgap, I've used "Machina" for when she's in battle and "Makina" for when she's just with the other Enormeeta girls. Barring another two month wait to see if the name she uses with untransformed Tres Magia is written or pronounced differently, I guess this is a detail someone will have to poke Onanaka about.
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>Even their drink orders are all colour coded
Hell yeah, that's what's being a magical girl is all about.
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It's threesome then.
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You know, im actually glad it's not lewd but still pretty, her La Verita must look like the antithesis of Baiser's, if she's borderline naked and her powers cause pain, hers must be covered and offer full heals
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Neat reference
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where is it
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Ah, yeah. That makes sense. It would probably suck to upload a fully scanlated chapter, only to find you have to re-upload and rescanlate the whole thing because the mangaka made a visual error with one of the characters. One of the rare moments you have to sacrifice speed for quality.
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Well it probably won't take too much effort for the typesetter to update since presumably all the cleaning and lettering is done on upper layers (and as far as I can tell, there's nothing text-wise around her face that would prompt a total redraw), so it's just a case of updating the pages below. Just a matter of when the updated pages will be published.
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>Sister and Magia Rouge arc
>Purify Magenta completely
>Leber, Loco, and maybe Alice La verita
>Vena & Vatz backstory
>Vena arc and finale.
>Wrap up
Assuming there is curveball like, timeskip, more dark la veritas or forms beyond la verita, or true big bad controlling Vena. That should be all that's left to wrap up the story neatly. I just hope Azul gets a girlfriend before it ends. Author said she wanted to find love but then never went anywhere with it. Now that Magenta's stuff is finally over, the author fixes that issue.
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That anon probably meant as an endgame goal. Right now, it's fine since it's a powerup but we don't know it has any consequences in the future. What if that dark Magenta attains self awareness and tries to stay permanently as a slutty Haruka by deleting the old Haruka? Vena has ulterior motives after all, why would it suddenly let Utena know how to get Magenta's original La Verita when it didn't help previously? It's suspicious. From fan service perspective, it's fine. But from a plot perspective, it should leave Magenta's body for her to be safe and happy. I think maybe she could have an inner mind battle where she has to confront her darker self one day.
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It was a really good and cute chapter, but I wonder if they'll continue with the 'purify Magenta' arc or they'll move to something else, also
>new form uses a banner as a weapon
>has a literal gacha mechanic to see which version will land
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Yet one more girl Nemo will simp for. But to actually address your question, Loco and Nemo are who the focus will probably shift to now (alongside Rouge). I don't think the recent background focus on them is just a gag, it'll probably be setup for a proper talk between them.
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>transparent skirt
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The issue is that I would have to
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Making a transparent layer over the transparent layer doesn't solve it. I'd do it if the artist sent me a shading-free version of the image, though.
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Magenta isn't going to purify, I bet she's going to become cognizant of her lust, and then embrace it as just one side of her, so she'll be able to swap between each form at her whim, and maybe even have a form in-between. Haruka is going to end up with the same lust vs. reason internal fight Utena did, to both mirror and foil her rivalry with Baiser. I figure it might come into play with Magia Rouge. It might even inspire other second La Veritas forms, like maybe an adult form for Imitatio or Leber and Loco having distinct individual La Veritas plus a merged La Veritas. I don't know how far Ononaka will go for it, but I at least hope LocoLeber get their La Veritas soon.
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maybe if kiwi didn't act like a desperate simp that wants sex, maybe utena will indulge in her rapeplay fetish
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>sayo openly starts liking it
>utena immediately calls her a disgusting bitch and flies away
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the idea of Utena's mom being a former or secret member of Enormeeta seems common for some reason
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>>4534677
No matter how much Kiwi hated Kaoruko, she would never disrespect someone's love.
Now, I want to see a chapter where Kiwi, Kaoruko, and Randa talk about their respective partners.