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Welcome to another Heaven Burns Thread, where unisons are our butter and bread.
5.3 hit like a hurricane and left behind so many tears. All the NanaTezu art is a true testament to that too.
Having the Commander as a SS unit after all this time was great too, but for the first time in a while we got a proper yuri unison style with MeguTama!
We got the extremely gay Amari Snap Event which was just a date between the two, full stop. We got Escort Ruka who has all the gay homsecreen lines. We got an endless flood of KareTsuka art.
It's truly a good time for HBR yuri.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M-LyFJI0Pzo
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7htU9q1OZ1U
Oh more 31X food styles. I guess they are making it the gimmick of this wave of styles. Having an entire wave of buffer styles is really weird though.
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>>4538105
These 31X food styles only exist for a specific niche, which is dungeon/Arts Battle/Wave battle runs. Generic buffs and post-battle recovery effects. And each one is only compatible with a specific element. These are not particularly good, but at least they have a purpose unlike some truly awaful styles like Inori3.
I agree that it was dumb to give Carole the lightning buffer style, because you want to use her white suit style in lightning already. She could have been given another element.
At least Maria makes some sense. For some reason they turned light elemental styles into token drains, so Maria's buff given tokens to the whole party is good for that element and Maria herself is a token reliant character, so it synergizes.
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>>4541101
>It just gives the Yamawaki's Servant buff...
That's plenty. BungoWakki only gives the buff to the reserves, which means BungoWakki herself can't ever get the buff, which means her ult will never have the 6th effect.
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>>4541119
But the WakkiBungo style also has that skill. Those two unisons literally complement each other. That was kinda the point. So this completely bare "SS" style here is literally just a dead slot reserved for people who didn't get both unisons to have a crutch? It's not like BungoWakki was desperately lacking more broken traits.
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>>4541129
Anon... this is JP. Even assuming you only started a year ago, you got a million SS1 ticket gacha tickets by now. I have almost all SS1s at LB3-4 just because the game hands them out like candy.
I'm not telling you to get her SS2-4 to LB4 without some weird pull luck, but it's really not like you need that for the sheer level cap raise. Might as well complain that you have to beat story chapters to get the free cap raises.
>>4541131
LB2 is plenty in general. I'm talking about natural accumulation here. And the JP server of course.
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>>4541132
>this is JP
Oh. Well, then ignore me, for I'm a retard.
>you got a million SS1 ticket gacha tickets by now
I do have a lot of those for doing all the Operation Perseus missions. Guess there's no reason to keep them.
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https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/2037130780334526849
Miya Snap event and Hisame Easter SS. At least it's not a goddamn bunny suit.
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>>4544830
I don't remember it having that kind of name... Do you mean the standard helicopter they use to go to missions or the one used in the finale? The latter should be obvious, so it must be about the former.
They've been arming these since 5.1.
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>>4545827
It was blown out of proportion, but the parts with the guy are extremely unnecessary and annoying. The whole thing in general feels like filler that barely does anything but character assassinate Wakki by the end of the chapter.
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>>4545907
It was definitely a character assassination. Wakki is a character who already knew hardship. She already suffered plenty and knew how cruel the world was. She literally lost her childhood friend, the only one she ever cared about as a kid, to a Cancer attack. Her entire focus is thus on helping her friends and protecting them. She will push herself to her limit because she cares.
So this entire stupid scenario Maeda made for her where she forgets everything to make her a "normal girl" so she can be retraumatized by the world and harden her heart is extremely dumb. Steeled Wakki is pointless and does nothing or her character arc. Realizing that the world is cruel is completely pointless for a character like Wakki who cries every night as her dearest friend loses all memories of their time together because of the head injury she received when she protected her.
And what is the actual point of having a steeled Wakki? To talk sense into Karerin and push her into a corner. That's literally the only reason all of this shit was pushed on Wakki. So she can be harsh enough to push Karerin into action. This could have been achieved without the pointless filler and making Wakki rant about how she could have been some dude's girlfriend if she had kept having amnesia. We literally have a dozen characters who could have filled that role. Maeda has 31B and 30G in his hands. Ichigo and Sumomo are literally killers who had to harden their hearts all their lives. Their hands are just as bloodstained as Karerin's! Tsukishiro lost Kura and still perserveres despite feeling responsible for the deaths of the two people that meant most to her.
How could these people who directly went through something similar as Asakura Karen not be a better choice than making Wakki into someone she is not? 5.2 was almost my favorite chapter, but the Wakki parts drag it down severely.
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>>4546808
I dunno, could be a general sports park or something. The net definitely looks like either tennis or volleyball though. Risa-mama also has band-aids, so it might be her. But she isn't known for being clumsy. In fact she is superhumans only when playing volleyball.
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The second style's hint... Big tits and black hair? There is actually not a lot to pick from here. Like... we got only a handful of blackl haired girls and none of them are busty except for Yunyun. So a cheerleader Yunyun style.
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>>4546968
Her default outfit hid them a lot, she's stacked enough in the christmas style for sure. Even then this is a cherry picked still
I'm very happy about more pairings but they are different element aren't they? That's a bit silly
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>>4547604
...field? Who cares about field? Magician Isuzu is a debuffer. She does AoE light def + general def down for 2 turns. She also has a 8SP fragile debuff move. But the new athlete Akarin can create light weakness + perma light defense down + fragile in one ult for just 14 SP. It's cheaper and does almost everything better than Magician Isuzu. And she still got another move with a unique status effect on top of that. It's just straight up powercreep.
Now you could say it has been more than a year since Magician Isuzu came out, so it might not be fair game. I just dont wanna replace her lol
Akarin needed the win though. She hasn't been meta since her ice style OD loop days. Once upon a time she had the best Dark style with her SS1, but Adel usurped that not that long after.
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I beat Miya's Snap Even for now.
So this was not really as good or funny as Yukki's choose your own adventure Snap, but it still had a lot of fun stuff going on. As a concept I love Miya having to choose between her long time crush Class Rep Yuina and the new transfer student Ruka. Classic dating sim set up and both are crushes hinted at in the main story.
Karen-chan seems like a really random option, but over the course of the game you realize she isn't really here as a romance option, but rather as a self-aware piece of code telling Miya to get her shit together.
Despite being a dating sim, there aren't actually that many romantic moments. It's mostly build up and wacky stuff. I did almost die when Miya tried to lick food from Ruka's lips mouth to mouth, but of course Yuina interrupted them (by asking whether they were going to kiss).
For the life of me I don't know if there is a secret Ruka ending if you pick everything perfectly, because the only real endings you get are
1. Failed to raise all stats (loop)
2. Karen-chan kills you
3. Riase all stats, meet Yuina and pick her (loop)
4. True Ending
Feels like Ruka should have her own weird ending, considering she is treated kinda like the main heroine? But she will always be busy with clubs no matter what.
I don't know if I really like or understand the true ending that well. I guess Yukki did program all of Miya's feelings and most important memories into the game, so the fact that the true ending is Miya rejecting the dating sim and wanting to dream about Miyu, her sister, could be the point? I just don't like the stupid line "I want to be with the only person I have ever loved in my life" when refering to Miyu. Almost like the writers are rejecting the very idea that Miya has romantic feelings for Yuina or Ruka, which is stupid.
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>>4547907
Kura being the mom was super wholesome and I especially love the option to hug her immediately. Really felt like Miya's feelings were shown off there as well. She even thanks her for being able to meet her again on the true ending path.
That aside, this was chock full of secret details again.
On the very first loop Miya will comment about how she should raise all her stats before restarting the game, but afterwards she will never repeat this scene again. So it's actually ultra rare to get a different reaction. You have to get killed by Karen-chan on the very first playthrough, so Miya will then comment on how insane it is that a dating sim has a dead end!
If you pick all the options where Miya eats way too much food in one day, she will nearly throw up when Kura serves her dinner.
If you pick the hug Kura option two playthroughs in a row, Kura's reaction will be much softer than the first time.
If you go to eat yakiniku with Karen-chan on the first day and then try to go home with her again on the second day, Karen-chan will have a unique pep talk for Miya, telling her not to try to go for all the routes and just aim at the true ending path (Miyu). She also will kill you again if you pick her again on the third day, because Miya will say that she really did want to go for Asakura-san though.
If you pick Karen-chan only on the second and third day she will straight up tell you that you wasted a playthrough and go home alone.
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>>4547911
Visual Novels are Key's bread and butter, so you would expect them to know how to do those well. But to be fair, Snap Events are really short. I wouldn't say this has more content than most VNs, with the exception of those really short Game Jam ones that last like 20 minutes. Took me about an hour to get all the content (I assume it's all, but that elusive Ruka ending may still exist...).
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>>4547607
Can't say whether my teams are truly well constructed or balanced (not including dark because it's honestly a mess), but this is what works for me right now. A lot of these are on EN already.
Looking at it right now, I gotta say, aside from a clear Yuina bias, WFS really managed to make me do some very varied teams now. Who would ever have thought Maru-chan and Irocchi could be a core shell in a lightning team? I've also been experimenting with bartender Minori lately and she is shockingly solid! I can't really decide who to use in Sharo's slot for fire. She is kind of just a placeholder who has a field and can heal when Carole isn't enough. I need a fire buffer, but I really don't want to keep using Yotsuha from year 1 or the super awkward swimsuit Adel...
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>>4547937
>idol Ichigo
Was pretty much the strongest fire attacker for ages. I'd say she is still up there on JP. Unison Ruka is decent, especially because of the integrated debuff, but Ichigo's multihit buff easily outdamages her. Also most fire teams prefer using Diva Ruka for buffs and damage. I just found her redundant, because Ichigo can multihit buff herself and Admiral Yuina is overall more useful. I guess switching Sharo for Diva Ruka would be smarter for a meta team though.
>swimsuit Tsukasa
Pure trash, even after the buff. I'd rather use Yotsuha or fire Adel then.
>bells
I do keep running out of them, mostly because I'm trying to get everyone to +10.
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>>4547934
The issue with Daphne is that they only work on singular styles unlike reversions. So you should pick styles you are certain to use for a long time.
Also I only got so many from diligently doing all content in the game for years. This is not what a casual or new player would have.
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>>4547927
What I dont get about lightning Kanata is that she has no lightning moves, so why is she an elemental unit at all? She would be useful in any team. Though obviously dark more than anything due to her SS1 ult. Now she benefits from moves that specifically give SP or buffs to lightning units, but that is a very niche benefit...
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>replay the Miya event to pick the dialogue options I didn't pick in my first playthrough and to kill the extra boss
>Yuina gets tired of being trolled and tells Miya to "pick the top two options", the correct ones to advance the story, then says the thought of the two options just entered her mind
Huh.
>replay the Kozue event to kill the extra boss
>a bug renders it unplayable on phone
I'll have to play on PC
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No cap, this might be the most gorgeous style art in the entire game. This is legitimately beautiful and a huge achievement for this game of already plenty of very good looking styles. It's nice to see Inori get something that leans more into the dancer and parade side of swordsmanship for sure.
As a style, well, she is an ice attacker... who is also a buffer. They knew she could not compete with ice Adel, as probably nobody ever will, so they had to give her something. If there werent already half a dozen great ice buffers by now, it'd be easier to recommend her. But I mean, if you don't have ice Tsukasa she is probably great.
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I guess sexualizing the girl who runs around with a bare midriff and without a top and just bandages around her chest wasn't that farfetched... but I don't really think this leans too much into Maki's strong suits. You might say her scholar side is being played into here, but eh. It still looks pretty good though and gambling is sort of biker gang related?
Either way she is the lightning element mark user, just like Aoi is the ice mark user. Seems these mark users are all gonna represent one playstyle. Aoi is the ultimate defender, Maki is the ultimate debuffer. I don't think she is outright better than demon Mari, but a permanent debuff that can be infinitely spammed is sure something. You will be forced to exclusively use lightning styles in your party to use her though, so I guess lucky that Maru-chan got a lightning style despite having nothing lightning related in her kit. This was probably the true reason.
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Shiki getting anything at all is a win. But as usual she lost the fight for last place in 31F's SS style distribution. Last to get her SS2 and she will be last to get her SS3... mark my words.
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>>4551413
>best white suit
Misarin, it's not even close. Maximum dyke energy.
>worst
I used to think it was Ruka from the group art, because it looked really lame, but goddamn did her SS style art give her a glow-up. And finding out she is an escort for girls made it even better.
Nah, worst white suit style is either Wakki or Yuina. Theirs are so boring. I at least think Yuina's ult is cool, but this is just about looks, so it won't matter.
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Nobody ever posted this, but there was a story scene played before the HBR concert last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuiFpxI290
It's actually quite interesting. The real Ruka interacting with her mom. Why is there more actual screentime here for the original Ruka than in all of 5.1???
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I highly doubt they will have Persona characters added as units. AB was a pretty special situation and Key actually has the rights to those characters. If I got my way Isuzu and Irene would get Phantom Thief styles. Irene already has one, so maybe they will just reuse hers. They are both decently popular, so it would work. But 31A always gets the most attention, so I expect at least one 31A style...
It's just a one-off collab that probably makes zero sense, just like the Pro Baseball one. I really have no idea how this crossover will actually work. Will they adapt a Person 5 like slick UI or will they just put sprites of the P5 cast into HBR? Even the existing P5 models would look really odd in HBR.
At the very least the turn based RPG stuff makes them quite compatible. Not to mention the dungeon style runs.
I also wonder how the power sets are gonna work. Are the Phantom Thieves just gonna get Seraphs that look exactly like their weapons in the Metaverse? Or will the HBR cast go to the Metaverse instead? It's at least more interesting than the AB and Baseball collabs.
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I'm more annoyed about the possibility that male characters will be in the limelight. I doubt they are gonna do the AB thing where they only invite the girls over. Cant imagine not having Joker appear in the event. Mona would be fine, cause he is a cat at least, but eh.
Guess the PowerPro collab also had two males in it, but they are just funny masoct toy thingies, so it didn't really feel real. And PowerPro-kun literally slept through the entire event.
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>>4555182
>I also wonder how the power sets are gonna work
I see Cancers appearing in the Metaverse and Phantom Thieves Metaverse weapons and Personas work against them. The HBR cast will appear in the Metaverse somehow, and through Mari-related shenanigans Ruka will be wearing a Joker (or Joker-esque) outfit, which will make the P5 girls believe she's Joker.
Yes, I know it's mostly a rehash of the first AB collab. Yes, I do hope whoever's actually writing this event is more creative while also not having any of the male P5 characters present in any way, shape or form. Miyuki's love for that one guy was already too much in the first AB collab.
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>>4555252
>Miyuki's love for that one guy
I feel like that's a total misreading of that event. Dude was obsessed with her, but she literally never once showed any sign of reciprocating. He just kinda kept visiting her grave and her ghost was incapable of really doing anything except watch.
That's the irony of the event. This 40 year old virgin makes her death all about him and she has to suffer decades listening to this shit and somehow people think it's a love story, when there is none.
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I have to emphasize this again, but they seriously fixed Wave Battle so well. It's the mod I look most forward to returning every time now. Even the debuff enemy themed gauntlet this time around isnt annoying, but rather fun to play around. The fact that enemy debuff and ally buff countdowns stay intact between battles makes you really consider waiting out the turns or risking the stacks. And as mentioned before, the cards between each battle being exclsuively rewards that help you makes it way more satisfying.
This is legit the only mode in the whole game that I feel gives you real skill and comp expression beyond just bashing the biggest numbers into an enemy.
I usually play with the OD debuff when playing with my light party, because I have so many skills that increase OD or work around it in my light party.
It's just really nice to lolok forward to open HBR for something other than events or story sometimes. I hope EN gets the fixed version soon.
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>>4556054
True, though I feel like they just added Hisame for cute/popular points even though she clearly didnt belong. Would have made more sense to aslo have Sumomo in the baseball event, considering she is also a huge baseball fan and would play off well with her sister.
Another one who is a big baseball fan and actually 31A relevant is Karen-chan. And Karerin is a gamer, so she would recognize PowerPro Baseball...
What I'm saying is that they didn't really fully utilize the cast there either.
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>>4558080
Sumire getting a SS style in this collab when she doesnt even get to appear in actual P5 spin-offs is really funny. HBR always brings out the best, huh?
So we got Makoto, who is the de facto real leader of the Phantom Thieves if you ignore the cardboard self-insert Joker and Sumire for SS styles. Mona, the cat, gets a style too... he is technically male. But he is also a cat.
AND we are getting a Tsukasa style with the outfit of Ann, one of the female Phantom Thieves who doesnt appear in this event.
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>>4558089
He doesnt get a style, he is just a story character. This is pretty much expected for a crossover though... Why wouldnt the main character be in it? The existence of males is nothing new in HBR, but freaking out over a collab with the protagonist of another franchise is weird... are you afraid of random hetshit for no reason? Persona spin-offs have been entirely devoid of romantic implications between Joker and the girls from his game. And there is negative 100% chance that the HBR cast is gonna flirt with him.
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>>4558103
Well I kinda get that, but that's not how Atlus usually does collabs. Unlike with AB, which was a Key property, this is a joint collab with a different company. I doubt they would not have Joker appear in it.
I wouldnt be so stressed about this though. HBR has never been gayer than in the last year and a half, so I expect if anything to get some ship fuel for the HBR pairings, using the shadow mechanic. The whole thing about going into people's psyche is pretty useful for that. Imagine Ruka seeing Yuki's inner world where she is a total fangirl.
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>>4558117
Well, it's a cat mascot voiced by a woman. Reminds me of the old times where people were confused why Morgana was even a male cat at all, when he is literally mistaken for female several times in-universe. Apparently it was to balance out the gender ratio in the Phantom Thieves... which is overwhelmingly female leaning.
Too bad we aren't getting Haru. Haru/Makoto is a pretty popular yuri ship in the P5 community.
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>>4558122
Yeah there were none in P1-3. Unless you consider Elizabeth a mascot character lol
I would say Morgana is fine though, because he fulfills a utilitarian role for your cardboard cutout self-insert protag, by replacing your inner thoughts and actually reacting to stuff protag can't. Cats are also cute, unlike whatever clown abomination Teddy is.
I know the menu cat in HBR is never directly involved with anything, but I would find it really funny if that talking cat interacted with Mona somehow.
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>>4558110
Why are we acting like persona games dont go for harems for their protags for the most part as fans find it amusing.
Sure male npcs also do firty dumb shit in this game but here we have joker the phantom thief stealer of hearts and we already have Ruka freaking out in the trailer over how cool they are.
Persona gams also hate female protags do you think they really would let this colllab slide if they didnt reduce Ruka to another girl just to prop up Joker ?
Do you really trust Atlus that constantly makes fun of their female cast,do you trust them to have eanugh self control to nto rage bait with joker
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>>4558197
You didn't read a single thing I said, huh? If you play any of the Persona 5 spin-offs like Strikers or Tactica or even that horrendous gacha P5X, you would know that they completely avoid any romantic implications in those. Mostly because they dont wanna mess with fan's preferences, so you can't give any girl preferential treatment. And in general the Phantom Thieves are more used as symbols in most crossover media. There are literally dozens of P5 collabs by now and none of them had Joker act like a harem protag.
And Ruka calling the Phantom Thieves cool is a problem, why exactly? They are cool. And Ruka has been very blatant about her disinterest in guys enough times already, so she is the least likely to swoon over any guys.
You clearly know nothing about HBR or P5. You are just shitposting. I won't dignify your Atlus schizoing with another reply.
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>>4558199
Schizo posting is assuming that atlas has eanught self control to not shit on female protag focused games like this one.
Ruka is also most likely geting joined attack with Joker wich already breaks the mold by having her pair up with a male characterm trailer itselfs shows this.
Im legit not shiposting i played both games people behind persona legit just dont treat their female characters well.
Its just a known fact.
You say all that but did you read all persona 5 collabs ? there are countless it varies from series to series so there is no way to tell.
It dosnt matter how Ruka acts in game this is a collab they will msot likely write some bullshit to ruin Ruka i have zero faith
Also the ads will now just be just her and Joker so ggs
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>>4558204
It sure is good that Atlus isn't running HBR or this collab.
>joined attack
That one Persona mechanic will most likely be limited to the Persona characters. I can't imagine that attack not having a cost, or a limit, or something, because having an extra attack (and apparently a powerful one at that; the one seen did almost ult levels of damage) for free would break the game.
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Do we have stats for the new units? That would be more interesting than this doomposting.
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>>4558091
>He doesnt get a style, he is just a story character
That's better than I thought it was when I first saw it anyway. Probably still avoid the /vg/ thread for a while as it seems like het tourists are shitposting about it
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>>4558242
This is clearly a really benign collab that just tries to have fun with both franchises, but some idiots will always try to use the most superficial things for their agenda. There is no point to talking with these tourists.
I'm more interested in who is writing the collab. I assume it's WFS writers with some guidance from Atlus.
Also if PowerPro is anything to go by, they really put some effort into giving the collabs unique mechanics now. From the trailer it looks like breaking a Cancer's DP leads to an All Out Attack.
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>>4558915
I mean they have been doing reruns of Unisons a lot in the last months, so I don't think that's really any concerted effort at baiting people.
I don't really care about AB, so this wouldn't affect me anyway, but remember that they will give you like 50 free pulls for the event banner anyway.
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>>4558990
Ah back from being banned? When will you learn your lesson?
Anyway, Morgana is a simp, that is not the same thing. He never actually does anything perverted. He is quite literally just a cat, so what are you afraid of? Ann never took him seriously even once.
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New assets and poses for the P5 collab are in the mega folder. I recommend copying the "charnames_override.json" or just the new lines from it. I decided not to use the game's strange codenames for files like EmaA or EmaB this time but to give them their actual character names. Copying the lines from the json file will let you change the sorting for names in the GUI.
Also, I had to nix the Backgrounds folder. There just wasn't any space left.
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Makoto ignores basically all resistances and defenses. She can just beat E-shields regardless of element. Suits her piercing fighting style.
Tsukasa is a buffer/debuffer hybrid, which makes her an alrounder.
Mona can heal allies status debuffs and DP. He was always kinda used as a healer in P5 too, so it makes sense.
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Tama doing Igor's voice and imitating the famous monologue to Ruka but replacing "chaos" and "trial" with "collab" just about broke me already. And the Minase sisters are the twin wardens.
This shit is going to make me cry-laugh.
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I know people were worried about a dude being in this event but playing it now I kind of feel bad for Joker. Dude only gets basic lines and barely interacts with any girls. This is a win for yuri at the expense of some potential funny interactions, but I don't really know anything much about Joker's character anyway.
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>>4561277
This is actually pretty accurate to how he is handled in all P5 media. In his own game you only choose dialogue options every few minutes while everyone else talks. It's because he is meant to be a self-insert. In other collabs he is also that taciturn and rarely speaks.
This event was overseen by Atlus according to some gaming magazines, so this was probably not even WFS idea, but rather theirs. Keeping Joker on brand. If you want to be very charitable you could say Joker is more of a symbol to rally around than a deep character.
It's great though, I find it extremely funny that during all the bonding scenes Joker is just nowhere to be seen. Makoto and Sumire are clearly the real highlights. And Mona as usual does most of the exposition and talking for Joker too.
I said this would be the case from the start, because I know how these kinds of collabs usually go. Doomposters didnt know shit about P5 or HBR.
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>>4561280
Him being a non character makes sense now. His reaction to Sharo's animosity got a laugh out of me though so I'm looking forward to more of those. I'm also grateful for WFS for having Irene in this event, not because she's one my lowkey faves but it just makes sense for her to be here.
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>>4561282
Yeah, I love Sharo basically being a parody of us. She is going full yandere just because Joker talks to Ruka lol
Irene is great and she is both a detective and was a phantom thief, so this is exactly her speed. Though my favorite bit is how awakened Tsukasa bullies her for no reason. I assume it's because she doesnt like people who are as smart as her. Also their Seraphim codes say the exact opposite thing, so they really should have clashed much earlier.
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And more than that... everything about awakened Tsukasa and Makoto was just outright gay. Tsukasa was unabashadly flirting with her the entire time and Makoto, while taking it in stride, did totally play along and clearly enjoy it.
I didnt expect this, but this was getting close to NTR levels for poor Karerin lol
We always knew awakened Tsukasa is openly a lesbian and doesn't hide her attraction to pretty girls, but Makoto being actually an intellectual equal, while also being a cool biker chick clearly seemed to appeal to her.
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>>4562065
They legit have a bunch of innuendo and banter about how Tsukasa wants to ride Makoto's bike Persona. I really need fanart of that. Tsukasa even gave her a gift, which she would literally never do.
It was hella cute. One more reason awakened Tsukasa is the best character in this game.
I almost spat out when in the dungeon dialogue Makoto told Tsukasa that she should hold on tightly if they ride together...
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More general thoughts about the collab itself. Definitely style over substance. While I think they were using the HBR cast pretty well and had a lot of references to HBR's story and events without outright spoiling them, it did feel a bit lacking in the actual Persona part.
Like yeah, it looks cool to see Mementos fused with the ruined city in HBR, but you barely fought any shadow Seraph members. And when Irene and Tsukasa had to be saved, it felt really forced to have Makoto and Sumire give the pep talk despite them barely knowing them. I feel like Maria and Karerin should have been the ones to do that. They have the connection that would make it actually feel really powerful. Despite my love for Tsukasa flirting with Makoto.
Similarly the main antagonist was just Yaldabaoth Lite. Controlling people's negative emotions to free them of suffering. Been there, done that. Even the characters dont take its deal seriously. This is a waste of Persona's one big strength, the moral ambiguity and temptation. If the Palace Cancer had promised to end the Cancer war on top of taking everyone's negative emotions by spreading its Mementos across the entire world you would have had a legit moral conundrum. Ruka would have to choose between ending the war and all suffering and free will.That is a core tennet of both HBR and Persona. Wasted potential.
The only slightly interesting bit was that this was the Cancer's ideology of feeding on intelligent life taken from a more corruptive anlge. Trying to force the enemies into giving up the will to resist. Could have been explored better.
I suppose there is only so much budget for a collab, but this could have been something special if it had been like an entire arc in P5R. Set up, bond raising, Palace exploration, twists. HBR has all the in its main story, but the collab lacks that same intricacy.
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>>4562099
The collab ends on a pretty "We will see each other again for sure" note, so I wouldn't be surprised. A "deal" in P5 is basically like an unbreakable bond with a Confidant. So getting to the pay-off of SiL performing for the Phantom Thieves would be a good follow up. The Life Will Change live show didnt actually happen in the collab itself after all.
There are two spaces left to have a full party even with Ruka and Irene shoved in. So Haru and Ann could appear. Futaba not being a combat Persona user makes it hard for her to get a slot, but she could still appear for support.
If this is a trial for them to see if this collab has enough potential, they may do a better job on the sequel, as most of the assets were already made with this one.
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>>4562129
https://mega.nz/folder/YilzUYbD#ELfrc4VFFvEQtcCrBRrYuQ
For backgrounds and gacha banners. I realize they all have the same modification date now, so here's the list of backgrounds that were added in the last update. The gacha banners roughly count up numerically, so you should just have to sort them by name.
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>>4562088
Given how collabs are non-canon, it’s likely the pep talk given by Makoto and Sumire would be a hint on what kind of development Irene and Tsukasa will have next. Maeda may not have written the events but given that 31-A is involved he likely supervised it
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>>4562191
I dunno. Their issues were very general and based on stuff we already knew. Hence why I said the pep talks should have been done by the girls that already know their issues. This isnt really future development stuff.
And rather than not canon I would say Collabs have their own continuity. The cast is aware collabs are happening and are quite used to them now. Irene questioning what the hell a collab is got her humiliated by "dark Tsukasa" as they call awakening-chan now lol
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>>4562209
I’m pretty sure whatever Awakened Tsukasa was frustrated about wasn’t fully addressed or ever resolved. That’s why I think it could be the direction her character would be going. Unless I missed out some context from the game
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>>4562212
It was just the usual "I am surrounded by idiots and its giving me headaches". Hence why Ruka even said this is pretty much normal for awakened Tsukasa. Tsukasa reacting with "your cheerful heartlessness is even worse than outright contempt".
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>>4561907
He’s still there, just that now he’s shifted gears by getting pissed off about how it must have been written by the 31-D writer, getting mad at anyone who likes 31-D, or whatever hogwash cope he’s got left because he didn’t get his hetshit written in.
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>>4563746
If we're talking about which characters best fit which Persona 5 social links
Byakko-Morgana
Isuzu-Yusuke
Risa-Sojiro
Muua-Ryuji
Irene-Akechi
Yuki-Futaba
Seira-Chihaya
Bungo-Justine/Caroline
Mari-Iwai
Seika-Tae
Nanami-Kawakami
Niina-Ann
Karen-Shinya
Asami-Ohya
Misato-Hifumi
Tezuka-Yoshida
Tsukasa-Sae
Aoi-Makoto
Kanata-Haru
Kozue-Yuuki
feel free to say if you think there's better fits
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>>4563750
>Isuzu-Yusuke
Sorry, but it's obviously Iroha? Crazy artist who draws psychedlic stuff nobody understands?
>Muua-Ryuji
Ryuji isnt a masochist, though they share the part of being a dumbass. If anything I'd say the equivalent is Tama. Always the butt of jokes, very stupid, but pretty upbeat.
>Risa-Sojiro
Sojibro isnt THAT nurturing. And if we take the ability to make good coffee and food into consideration, while being the cool archetype, it's clearly Monaka.
>Kozue-Mishima
Comparing anyone to Mishima is an insult to them. If we are talking about desperate loser virgin dude, then Scrapper-ya is actually the Mishima of HBR.
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>>4563751
>Sorry, but it's obviously Iroha
Sorry, that's who I meant
>Muua-Ryuji
I was thinking more their track star roles
>>4563751
>And if we take the ability to make good coffee and food into consideration, while being the cool archetype, it's clearly Monaka.
True
>>4563751
>Comparing anyone to Mishima is an insult to them
Also true, I was just thinking along the lines of them both writing articles. Mishima with his fan club and Kozue with her school club. Wasn't she school newspaper back in her school? It's hard to verify this shit without just replaying the event since non gameplay information on this game is basically nonexistent
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So something I noticed about the Persona collab characters is that they tried really hard to incorporate their actual moveset and translate it to HBR. Sumire here has a party critical buff, self light buff and a light based ult. Her Persona could buf the party, do heavy physical damage and uses light element spells in the game too.
This also might be the best Violet art I've ever seen.
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I should be disappointed that Ruka's collab style is her weating Joker's outfit... but damn does she pull it off. There is nothing Ruka will look bad in, is there?
As for her moveset, she is a darkness debuffer. We never really had a debuffer Ruka before, so that's pretty cool. She also has permanent debuffs, the same as suit Megumin.
The ability to buff the whole party's debuff seems a little situational. Generally you probably will only use this Ruka as your debuffer. Maybe to synergize with Slutkasa, which is still relatively meta.
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