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>What is Duet Night Abyss?
Duet Night Abyss is a free-to-play action role-playing game where all the characters and weapons can be obtained for completely free by grinding or farming them in-game.
>FAQ (Read this for an introduction to the game)
https://rentry.org/dnaguide
Character recommendations can be slightly outdated. Please follow the Immersive Theater cycle or ask in thread for more up-to-date character recommendations.
>Useful Links
https://rentry.org/edyo3dhz
>1.2 Update
https://youtu.be/eLHgk6iVbOo
https://youtu.be/gFtSmpNaeMM
>Schedule for 1.2 Events, Theater/Letter Rotation, and Geniemon Reset
https://rentry.co/DNAV1_2
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>>558117213
You mean this? >>558116916
It's using the new purple serpent wedge from lv60.
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>>558117319
which wedge takes the blue ones for the electro wedges?
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>>558117213
blue volition
blue wings inspo
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>>558117848
you need two blaze morale alongside the wings inspo volition to take advantage of the center volition effect
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>>558117148
Do not forget your
Daily
>Memo
>Bard's Tome
>Expeditions
Daily Extra
>pre-craft 12 Gold Sand and 12 Repulsive Crystals for future weapons
Weekly
>Nocturnal Echoes
>Chase
>Mystic Maze
Special
>Theater before reset
>check for Geniemons every 3 specific days
>Fish shop
>Prism shop buy the 5 Prismatic Hourglasses every reset
>Mystic Maze shop buyout before reset
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>>558117523
We don't really have a comprehensive English wiki unfortunately unlike the Chinese one. The best way to check all blueprint ingredients are from the button on the bottom left of forge menu.
>>558117848
I assume you're talking about the wingspos. If it's between those two options, then split it. Electro volition by itself is weaker than wingspo morale. It's either:
1 electro in the party -> that one uses morale
2 electro in party -> main uses volition, combat partner uses morale
So there's no case where it's optimal to use wingspo volition only.
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is this a good use of the amplifiers?
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What the fuck do I remove for Decay?
>can't remove multishot
>can't remove trigger probability
>can't remove carefree
>don't want to remove reload speed
>don't want to remove atk speed
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Nvm found it. I wouldn't call nearly 100% loss "slight" tho. Going from 4 guaranteed hits and 50% chance for 5 hits to 3 guaranteed hits and 66% chance for 4 hits is a noticeable difference.
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sad how quickly this game died
not even cute n funny posters bump the general anymore
what killed the game? performance? blue wedges grind?
lack of meaningful content?
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Eeeeeeei!
Yaaaaaaah!
Yotto!
Un...sho!
Onegai!
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is the game alive or dead?
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>>558138480
I don't know. I just let the game play itself.
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>>558129249
Bad monetization and lack of identity. It's been 4 months and the devs still couldn't get their heads out of their asses and pick their lane.
Do they want the game to be mobile slop or an actual PC game? Do they want to chase whales with scam monetization or do they want to entice sensible spenders with good products and offers? Do they want to cater to lolicons or not? Do they want fanservice or not?
EVERYTHING is wishy-washy and half-assed. They can't make up their fucking minds about anything. They want to appeal to everyone but all it accomplishes is that they appeal to no one.
The only people left here are a few people high on hopium.
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>>558138480
Nobody knows. Servers won't close if the game generates more money than it costs to upkeep. Some MMOs can last for a decade with sub 1k players. It depends what you consider alive or dead.
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>>558144002
anon please get your eyes checked. you might be colorblind. purple manuals dont even exist
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>>558144216
Are you the same retard from the first wedge event? It's been explained to you time and time again that people refer to the background colour which signifies the tier/rarity. Please, it's been months. This level of izzat farming is actually just sad.
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>>558144458
>uhhh im actually referring to the BACKGROUND instead of the actual color of the manuals
this is a level of retardation that not even the subhuman pajeets you are mocking are capable of. kill yourself
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We're not timelooping this. You were btfo'd countless times during the last wedge event. And saying "nta" doesn't make it any less obvious that it's you btw. This is gonna be my final post on the matter. You can have your last word, I know your izzat demands it.
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>>558144902
you need to take your meds
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>retarded tourist thinks that proves anything when you can turn any post into "your" post and vice versa with 4chan X
Okay I know I said that was my last post but it's always hilarious when retarded tourists try to pull this. Okay go ahead, get your last word in.
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i am literally checking archives to see any fucking posts mentioning manuals being referred to as by their FUCKING BACKGROUNDS and im fucking not seeing anything.
i would fucking know about this bullshit, because I was there during anemo summit and was discussing whether or not duel was a good choice early on
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couldnt find shit anywhere close to this in the archives.
hey, schizo retard, could you post a screencap of this from the archives?
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we made it bros
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Fucking hell niggers.
I posted the first bait about yellow/red manuals.
Yes, it was bait. I tried to push it like it wasn't but of course i knew which one people meant and i didn't actually waste any manuals.
I didn't try using the same bait, this wasn't discussed again and i was even a bit letdown that the bait didn't go further than 1-2 jokes in the start of the next thread.
I don't know and i HOPE these(this?) niggas are baiting because despite being a silly idea to mismatch the colors, it's fairly obvious that people reference 2000% manuals when they say that's the one you're supposed to use. So if you actually mistook them, you're retarded; and this is coming from the original idiot who tried to bait with this.
Having that said, imagine falling for the same bait twice and posting such annoyed assmad replies.
You're just as bad as the new baiters.
>>558145272
>the dogshit red manual bait gets rerun
At least this guy was aware i guess
Now can you fags stop bringing up AND replying to old failed bait?
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>>558147948
I explained last thread i think.
Yale, Zhiliu and Tabethe have a skill that can add +100% to rewards.
So you use Fushu to guarantee SS results and them for up to 3(base)+3(zhiliu)+3(tabethe) = 9 points gained every purple expedition
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>>558148154
I assume you mean my post clarifying about the original bait.
And you don't need to believe me but my last post before that one was >>558134378
I don't reuse bait. I took the L and that's it.
And if you wanna believe it's some schizo samefagging, go ahead. Don't let me force you to take your meds.
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>>558133519
>Also we really need more diversity in the room types.
Not necessarily on the room types, spawn points being different would already change a lot.
There's a LOT of space in the levels that you never go to with a reason.
>>558138480
No one knows. Not even the devs.
>>558147170
Survey of what game?
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>>558149210
Those are just DMs. And if /dna/ gets a group outside the thread i'd suggest matrix instead.
>>558150320
Frens can bait each other once in a while as a joke.
As long as most of the time things are friendly enough i think it's fine.
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>>558159546
Making it to the big leagues...
Obviously Yostar has no idea why Stella Sora is failing.
Also I need these emojis with the pixel sunglasses on.
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>>558122439
You're comparing +5 to a +10. At +10, Foldover Dexterity will be at 110%, only 40% less multishot. It's the closest you will get to slotting in decay without giving up anything as far as I can tell. Since you don't want to give up the 30% reload speed either.
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>>558138480
That's not that bad considering people were dooming the fuck out pre-v1.2, when it was hovering in the sub-1k range. There's a chance to turn things around if people are still at least checking in for updates.
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>>558167407
And don't forget it's possible to equip Rain, Foldover and new Foldover all at the same time.
>>558173639
To be fair, non-doomers were expecting more of an impact too. But then again, people expected balancing changes and all
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Yo interested newfag here. I heard this game doesn't have any gamba cancer is this true?
Should I bother trying it out or just sticking to Warframe?
Why isn't this game popular or talked about? Whats the catch here?
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>>558176629
It HAS cosmetic gacha but it's very easy to just not interact with it. You can straight out buy other skins and cosmetics too.
No gacha for anything that affects gameplay.
You can grind anything that will affect your gameplay and in some cases you can't even p2w and buy it straight from the shop.
If it interested you enough to bring you here, do try it. "Its free"
I personally think it was good to flee from warframe's cycle of update preview hype and update release disappointment.
Also me and other anons can help you with questions and tips in warframe lingo if you need.
>Why isn't this game popular or talked about? Whats the catch here?
Marketed to gachatards. Decided to switch into gachaless warframelike and "forgot" to market the game to that crowd.
Honestly mostly marketing.
The mobile version is absolute dogshit from what i hear btw.
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>>558177549
I really hate DNA's costume gacha but yeah this game at least doesn't require us to roll for characters. I already i6 every character out in the mission store now, next is just doing S5 for my weapons so I can hit TR65.
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About the maze stuff we were talking about previously, here's an example.
I tried focusing on luminite lampwicks, prioritizing lampwick and ember options and even got the pentagram that increases the chance of luminite appearing.
Didn't even get a 6 set.
It's pretty disappointing, you completely depend on RNG if you're playing with random picks. That artefact barely has an effect i feel.
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>>558176629
As a player since launch, I'd say the main catch is that it's lacking in engaging endgame content. You start off killing stuff yourself but as you approach the endgame, your AI companions can clear most missions for you. So most endgame farming ends up being check in every 30s - 1.5min to restart the mission and repeat. The few endgame content that require active play are either not worth continuously farming and/or get repetitive fairly quickly.
Recently they did add a time trial endgame mode. It's kinda fun at the start and gives pretty good rewards for farming it. Though it's a limited time event that shows up for 1.5 weeks every 2 months. So it's more of a version patch capstone than a main gameplay content.
If you like the aesthetics or are interested in the lore/story of a game, I'd say it's worth checking out. You can play casually and clear most content, stopping before doing the heavier grinding parts.
If you care only about gameplay, then Warframe is considered generally better in that regard from what I've seen. It'll take some time to improve so you'd have to check in every few months for updates if you're still interested.
I'll note that I've never played Warframe myself. So idk exactly what Warframe does better to make the combat better than DNA. Besides mobility which I see get mentioned often.
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>>558180910
>lacking in engaging endgame content
Warframe lacks endgame COMPLETELY.
There's so little to do people start to autism fortress and stay inside missions for hours just so they fight lv9999 enemies... and you can still oneshot those easily if you slightly know what you're doing
I agree with the rest though.
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>>558182460
Completely trivial 6 missions/week grind.
It's like saying Chase is endgame.
Or idk, theater. Theater 12 i mean.
For ExA you need like 1 good archgun to cheese it and/or skipping the pix/vosfor final reward and swapping one of the things. Usually the warframe to dante or an equivalent cheese.
Wow, such endgame.
People who struggle with those are the same people who struggle with chase, maze and featured repertoire theater.
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>>558185948
Yeah, they just need to stop trying to sell different colour variants of accessories and let us colour them, also they need to stop with the colour scam and let us buy palettes or at the very least stop locking them behind the gacha and that stupid timegate on black/white.
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Aaaand it's done. Now I just need the morale wingspo which I already started grinding for with the wedge event.
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>>558186773
If Pan doesn't want to go down the unlimited use palette route, then they need to also allow free swapping to previously used dyes. I don't mind spending a bit of phoxene/lucent prism to dye each new thing. But if I already spent dyes on a particular skin before, let me just switch back to them without using the dyes again.
I might even consider grabbing another set of dyes to give the skin another option to swap around. Instead of now where I decide on only one color scheme as the finalized design.
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>hear about horror stories about missing loot
>don't bring rhythm
>bring evil electro lady, rebecca and foosh
>drop ball so rebecca and foosh target it, drop their jellyfish and activate their weapon buffs
>move game to another screen
>come back 200/200
>see cluster of wedges off in the distance
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DID THEY NERF THE RANGE OR SOMETHING? IS EVEN MAX RANGE BECCA TOO MUCH???!?!?
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>>558196314
I mean the range of bro boxie
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>>558196314
Why couldn't you dedicate 1 minute to pop the Primanders one by one yourself?
WHY DID YOU SET YOURSELF UP FOR FAILURE????????
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>>558195343
I don't think so. If any ability did work like that, I'd expect people to report it as a bug since it would be pretty clunky.
Closest thing would be summons maybe. I know Recca's jellyfish snapshots the atk speed of Rebecca for the Misty Veil bonus.
>>558196314
If the primander doesn't spawn in loot range, max range Rebecca can snipe it with her ult, which is 40m+ range. With multiple primanders, some also spawn in different locations instead of the usual spot.
Last event, I brought my active Nifle setup (Fina + Fushu supp) then cleared it manually since it only takes about a minute. Then I realized I don't even need to shoot things. I'm running the lv40 mission and Fushu's dragon deletes the mobs. So I just jump around to ensure all the loot gets picked up.
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>>558203320
It's okay, it's more revealing but not exactly a "better" skin, depends on your taste. Though that's more in comparison with her default skin, which is pretty neat already.
Being able to dye it is nice if you want different colors. Especially dyeing the hair, though certain hair colors are pretty much whale-only.
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>>558185948
We already got kino like this
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I hate Primes so much. It's been like 8 hours since I posted my rant and I still haven't gotten to +9 cause getting 15 of the primes I need is taking extremely long. Doesn't help the fact that 1 wedge usually drops in a pool of 4 same types per rotation.
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I haven't I've been putting it off since the start, my stuff were just +7 from just grinding stuff regularly and now I just wanted to +9 them at least. I still need 3 purple Morales for both Lumino and Electro to +9 them. It's so fucking annoying.
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>>558196563
I have noticed when I farm exploration 10 for clues I wouldn't have drops out of bounds when using Rhythm in 1.1 compared to 1.2. I can't tell if the auto pickup range is bugged now or it was bugged before being higher than intended.
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let me make fun builds for my bad characters that still sort of work or else.
also the shmoovement in this game needs improvement.
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>>558224350
The movement is one of the few redeeming qualities of this game, what the fuck are you talking about? Only Warframe's movement is better than it. Also, it's way too late to remove speardashing. It's too ingrained with the game now. They would have to provide some replacement for it if they were to ever remove it at this point.
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>>558227270
That's easy though, you just make dashing and helix leap real fucking fast
Also make maps where the goal isn't to move half a kilometer back and forth.
If you notice the huaxu noctoyager stages, they are all significantly smaller (but run worse kek)
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>>558227803
>That's easy though, you just make dashing and helix leap real fucking fast
No, it's not. You can't make the standard movement as fast as speardashing. They would need to make a dedicated speed-flying character or something. Mounts are not an option because that would be major p2w.
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i hate that you have to get every single prime 5 times before you get the 5 you actually need
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>>558228050
>No, it's not. You can't make the standard movement as fast as speardashing.
Says who?
>They would need to make a dedicated speed-flying character or something.
That is beyond retarded
>Mounts are not an option because that would be major p2w.
Obviously.
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>>558228458
>No, you are, if you want the standard movement to be like speardashing.
I never said that xis. Calm your tits.
>Fuck me why is this thread filled with fucking retards?
Ah yes the retard that thinks he's the only person right in the world.
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>>558228458
NTA but you realize that speardashing is akin to coptering in warframe, which was fixed by adding parkour right.
So there are actual precedents.
But yes, it does sound stupid to make every character a parkour ninja even if it works
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>>558228668
There is an extremely easy fix for this
Bind move techs to weapons
If you equip daggers then you have ninja shit
If you equip a greatsword then you move like a juggernaut
Swinging like spiderman with the whipsword would be cool as fuck
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>>558228668
>>But yes, it does sound stupid to make every character a parkour ninja even if it works
Have you SEEN how even Fina can do Olympic climbing?
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>>558228050
rhythm is the dedicated speed flying character
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>>558229009
I like the idea honestly, but i feel it would be just like Piercing Ascent where people just flock to whatever weapon type has the free movement shit.
So it COULD work if it's balanced. Dunno if pan can balance that, but this is another matter entirely.
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Everybody knows barefeet gives you climbing bonuses
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Is this the correct Rhythm build? Wings Morale is in the oven for 5 hours.
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You want wingspo volition on whoever you're piloting and morale on a support since the morale one affects the whole team.
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zhiliu's head is kinda small
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Wedges are safe, yes.
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Of course.
It always picks left.
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>any weapons worth leveling
Leveling gets you TR, and you'll be wanting that once you get stuck in either the pre-55 or pre-65 doldrums. Smelting gets you TR in addition to bolstering stat stick values, so it's always a good idea. Weapons to prioritize are:
>Wanewraith and Excresduo for general use
>Embla for boosting skill range, particularly useful on nipple and saiki
>Momiji is apparently good for actual combat on Outsider and probably one of the newer dudes as well, though I haven't invested in it myself
>Guixu Ratchet does some shenanigans iirc but those interactions have been nerfed a lot so that may no longer be the case, idk
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God i love Bountiful event, i wish it was once a week
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I cant choose what to farm next in weekly nocturnal, in maximize the team gain sense. I have Fushu i5, should go for 6 or rather get her weapon smelts? Or something else entirely.
Also this place is getting pretty dead, is there any active place left?
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>>558271546
Her weapon gives her and your team more skill intensity. The former also means slightly more skill intensity to your team from her 2nd skill. I6 is if you use her actively in Chase with others as everyone and their mother is only using damage dealers.
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>>558277334
The "some crit chance" it gives is pretty good though when it's +120% crit chance. Crit chance is high value when weapon cdmg generally goes into the 800%+ range. Of course, the element change is still a much higher impact when applicable but the extra crit chance is a decent dps boost.
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>>558280620
120% crit chance is really not that much. It's effectively an extra crit wedge. That's all.
For weapons with a low base crit value, it most likely doesn't enable 100% crit chance and for weapons with a high base value, it doesn't matter.
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>>558224350
>also the shmoovement in this game needs improvement.
only mobileshitters think the movement in this game is bad
it's a downgrade over warframe as the other anon said but it's still fundamentally warframe's movement so it's good
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>>558277831
Do a mix instead of character/weapon and wedge when you get bored of farming exp or materials. Wedges are fixed one time exp and need you to repeat the mission over 10 times. Character gives more exp with ascension and gives back shifts to fit more wedges.
For a month long goal collect purple and then gold for the theater, get to 12, and for next electro summit and raise the supports.
If you have at peace go fish to raise geniemons freely for 150 exp and get the other shit. If you don't have at peace don't bother it takes one hour to clear a pond without it and you need to upgrade the rod on top to use the trait.
Technically you should also plow through the story. The goal is to get to try 60 for maze coin farming to be a thing.
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>>558277831
Just so you know, farming Chase is pretty efficient during the 55-60 grind because it gives money, cunnycoins and globules at the same time. Maybe not so much solo but co-oping it is good.
If you ask around in the thread there might be anons who would be up for occasionally grinding some Chase for fun, myself included.
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>>558271546
>Also this place is getting pretty dead, is there any active place left?
This is probably the next most active place after the Discord unfortunately. Maybe Lunoloft has some chatter, but that's much more casual-oriented. Reddit still has some posts here and there but the constant negativity probably drove a lot of people away.
The game isn't that popular in general rn so don't expect any one platform to have a ton of activity. This patch was also relatively light in terms of new content and we won't get anything brand new until the next update in 6 weeks. So there won't be that much to discuss, maybe we get a peek with a Luno Bulletin in a few weeks.
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>>558286773
>probably
As far as the western hemisphere is concerned, trooncord and 4chan are effectively the only two places for active chatting.
Neither xhitter nor plebbit are used for active chatting.
Trooncord killed vidya forums and there are too many altchans out there for any one of them to thrive.
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1.3 will save the game, and the general
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>>558290424
>What happened to get woke go broke...why are wartrannies thriving
They aren't. Numbers have been steadily falling since their biiig update
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>>558290424
>why are wartrannies thriving but tits and ass descendants and dick all lunos abyss dying
First mover advantage and sunk cost fallacy. That combined with cheap prices for third worlders means they have a massive and loyal following of browns.
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>>558292001
Thinking back now, you're right. I should've ignored. My bad.
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>third worlders
I already convinced 2 brazilians ex-warframers to play DNA tho. And when i commented about DNA the only comment against it was because gacha, because pan really hates informing their customers that there is no gameplay gacha.
Well, besides the laughable speed boost from the dragon lmao.
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I think I'm dong playing this game. Gacha games takes too much time out of my life. My parent's dementia is also worsening. They don't remember me anymore. I'm going to take some time off playing games in general and spend more time with them.
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>>558297392
I remember when I used to beg for dismantle. I didn't used to like exploration since it took a while on afk back when I was newbab with rebecca AI
Now dismantle is still really good but I have to manually play. And I can just afk with Rhythm on exploration and its way more comfy since I can do something else but is still quite fast.
But now I only see dismantle most of the time and exploration is rare...
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>>558297392
They reworked covert mission rotations. You'll note that Exploration and Dismantle are far more common now while longer stuff like Mediation is rare.an extremely lousy bandaid that fails to actually address the real problem, if we're being honest; they should have just enabled you to crack multiple letters at once for longer missions in order to balance them with shorter ones
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>>558287841
I really hope 1.3 is good.
A 1.0 level story experience would go a long way to getting some hype and players back.
But also some significant gameplay overhauls that the game is desperately lacking right now.
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No one cares, but I'm probably gonna macro myself to 99999. I did a test run last night. Started at 5.5k, so that's close to 200 games afk.
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>devs get the first actual player bump since the game's (disastrous) launch thanks to the accessory customization feature being literally the single well-received update they've put out thus far
>players having fun doing creative things with the system like turning wings into collars and making special eye effects with buttons
>completely fail to capitalize on this by pushing out more basic accessories to capture the fashion-meta audience
>put the lion's share of the new cosmetics in the paid store, even going so far as to stick something as basic as hair dye in it
>can't be assed to fix the shit code that keeps people from seeing each other's customizations so there's no lingering appeal to showing off creations anyway
Man, why are asian devs so fucking robotic about updating their games? It's like they simply CANNOT function on a basic level outside of their pre-established timetables. It would take one person--not even an artist, just a fucking intern scouring the game's existing 3d assets and repurposing them--all of an hour to whip up some more shitty filler cosmetics and release a few every week off-schedule to keep people logging on until 1.3... but they won't do it because they have an autistic fixation with sticking to the schedule they set before the game released, even though doing so will only drive the game to EoS before they even reach the one-year anniversary.yes, i'm just seething because i want to recolor nifle's hair to match the qipao i slapped on her
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Gooks of all kinds are just incapable of rapid iteration. Maybe some anons have counter examples but I have yet to play an asian game where the the majority of issues were not given the "we're aware of it, please look forward to it maybe being fixed in the next major update in 4 months" treatment
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>>558303935
Nothing too fancy, just examples of people creatively using the barebones tools we've been given. If there were significantly more cosmetic options to choose from that didn't require triple digit cash expenditure to obtain, I'm positive we'd see more players returning or giving DNA a try. Hell, I'd be satiated if the devs just lazily ripped more decorative assets and turned them into cheap cosmetics like they did with the car wheel and teacup; at least give players SOMETHING to work with.
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The only counter examples I could give are some japanese indie games, typically with a solo dev or a small enough team to count on your fingers at most; any time it's a JP/KR/CN studio with more than that many employees, you know it's going to be moving at a glacial pace with zero tolerance for even the slightest deviation from established schedules
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>>558299398
>they should have just enabled you to crack multiple letters at once for longer missions in order to balance them with shorter ones
That's obvious but the amount has to be like 5x considering a good dismantle run is >30s long.
Also Im surprised at the lack of bonuses CO-OP gets
We should be getting at least 50% more gains if doing shit co-op
Chase is the only thing worth doing Co-op
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>>558313665
Co-op doesn't exactly need a reward bonus for people to do it. Or if it did, it would have to be additive with books to avoid having them feel "wasted" on solo runs.
The bigger issue is that commissions are already too short as is. Any potential time saved is negated by having to wait for others and player variance. There has to be an option for a longer commission, where co-op cuts down time needed significantly.
Chase and pre-TR60 excavation works this way and were the main things done in co-op. Neither gave a bonus for co-op but only being able to clear it faster is enough of an incentive.
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>just examples of people creatively using the barebones tools
Yeah but thats pretty cool. What was used in that Nifle? Besides the crow cape that is.
I like the eyes; is it the silver/gold mask? What else was used?
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>>558324506
Everyone knows there will at least be 1 Rhythm in Chase and no one wants to let that guy have 90% damage contribution in the end screen so the only option is to bring Rhythm yourself.
I still got at least 60% in my last Chase runs with 2 other Rhythms.
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>>558322634
Not CBT2 but she was in the confidential beta they did shortly before launch. She was also first revealed 1 month before launch at a Tokyo Game Show showcase where she was playable. I would classify her as a beta character.
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>>558324506
Duet Night Electro.
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Im okay with that. Im usually the guy that chills next to the door of the 2nd phase anyway.
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Good, cause it means I can just afk at the door to the second area. Unless the rhythm doesn't go kill the first two bosses, then I abort and queue again. Which means if you're rhythm and you don't find and kill the two stage 1 bosses in 0.000001 seconds on the level loading you're a piece of shit.
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>Accidentally clicked too fast and started big wedge mission without a book
>Panic
>Insta-quit mission
>Desperately check if it consumed my chance
>1/1
That was a heart attack i didn't need today.
But uh, you can do that if you fuck up i guess
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oh well thats a shame. hang in there i guess duetbros.
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>>558332960
They can't optimize game on pc and mobile. Do you really tgey would want to launch it at ps5 with sub 40 fps perf on lowest? They have already alienated anyone without RTX 5070 ti or better GPUs and brand new Snapdragon $1.5k USD phones.
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>>558337985
>They have already alienated anyone without RTX 5070 ti or better GPUs
I'm running the game perfectly fine on a 2060.
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>>558337985
What >>558338172 said, my 1050Ti runs it and despite some drops on Huaxu it's very playable.
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>>558339330
>Zhilu weapon
Yes.
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Let me guess, kept the visuals effects at max?
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>>558340095
It doesn't hurt but I find that Anemo and Electro character rather have Rendhusk with a full +10 build or close to it because that get a lot of skill intensity.
Meanwhile Lumino and Pyro wedges lack skill intensity so they want the skill intensity from weapons but of course with Nifle you use Embla and with Lisbell you still want the Guixu, at least in content where you need to maximize your single-target DPS but if you're not bringing Guixu than Excresduo is definitely better than Rendhusk there.
And since wedges are disabled in Maze, Excresduo is still the best in there, except for Nifle of course.
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Expulsion
24s lv60 100 enemies (nyagger) china
38s lv60 100 enemies (nyagger) elevator
23s lv60 100 enemies (nyagger) old mine
31s lv40 150 enemies
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>>558338685
>I'm on much stronger card where's my fps
>the much stronger card in question is amd
I'd be singlehandedly funding this game for years to come if I were paid every time I had this exact conversation in the past
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>>558345910
Well, the most noteable rewards by far are the 2x2 twilight treads at level 30. All the other rewards are either cosmetics or things you can just farm.
So unless getting those 4 treads one week later than the rest somehow screws you over, you are fine.
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>>558348937
I still believe. 1.3 will be the first major step to saving the game and eventually we're pulling a No Man's Sky.
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>>558351330
>Kek I would never install a game based on just a girl.
I get the sentiment. Subjected myself to yuritranny shit just for her but then they killed her off because she was too 4th wall breaking with the (You) pandering and the yuritrannies complained too much about her and her design.
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>>558355190
>I have seen this womanlet before curiously enough.
Unironically might all be me. I have posted her into plenty of generals and multiple times on /v/. I am legitimately obsessed with her. That collage is my OC too.
She instantly became my waifu and by that I mean the old school meaning of the word.
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Also, turboweebs will disagree but herEnglishvoice is fucking fantastic too.
https://files.catbox.moe/kuiqi2.webm
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>>558349575
The only way 1.3 is a major step is if they finish up the wuling story and gtfo china
>>558350152
1.3 is definitely coming they already have the last china girl ready to release. They could release 1.4 with just that and a few minor fixes like 1.2 and the remaining players would still cope that 1.4 will fix the game
Honestly the only fix I need is auto continue for wedge missions and I'd be fine afking another month or two but fuck farming another set of wings inspo for another element
fuck that shit
auto continue or uninstall
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>>558358359
>The only way 1.3 is a major step is if they finish up the wuling story and gtfo china
That's literally what it's gonna be. 1.3 is going to be the last chinktown patch. Su Yi is the last chinkwank character to be added to the game after this patch.
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>>558363279
nta, but, I like *this* story.
i like the character designs, too. and the voice acting. i like the gameplay for this one more than i've ever played except for honkai impact 3rd which i only stopped because i hated the part 2 story.
i want dna to succeed.
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>>558363501
DNA is still too young to have a good overarching story line. Right now the "story" is just character introductions which is boring if you aren't interested in the character themselves. Right now I'm calling the story shit because it's so boring and bland. Might change when we get more story updates.
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I really like the story for Reverse '99 and Limbus. Arknights' main story is kinda mid now but early story was decent enough that kept me engaged and entertained. Some of the events are hit or miss. But if they hit, they hit hard. Lone Trail is one of my favorite event story, same with Babel.
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running max level explo for coins. seems like it's not a bad income for AFK-- 80 minutes or so nets about 700k. maze is much faster but i'm just so tired of running it with nifle/lynn/psyche and most of the rest of the cast is just awful to use there.
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I have the game installed 3 times. Once using their own launcher that I now use for 3DS gaming. Once on Steam that is now my main and once on mobile that I sometimes use for AFK farming.
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>>558365265
I don't think that's the case. Otherwise Rhythm on some defense maps would stall with all the stuff that drops outside pickup range. If it's only in the multiple primander mission, it's possible they intentionally slowed the spawns so people won't accidentally clear before even the loot in range gets picked up.
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retards here would call anything you like shit
I've played thousands of other games and dna had a bit of novelty because I had never tried warframe, however it's still a very bad game
I don't enjoy logging in each day to hit my dailies or weeklies, I don't enjoy the loading screen simulator wedge farm, I don't enjoy the low effort events where you afk in town or play simon says
I have uninstalled a few times and just missed weeks I came back for 1.1 and 1.2 I'll likely uninstall this week and skip the dude then come back for 1.3
But this game is on the kill list as soon as I can find something else it's done, I wouldn't recommend it to friends, I'm actively looking for something else to do instead
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>amd
LOL, LMAO Even. I'm on 4070Super and I have 0 issues with this game. I can run it at max settings. This game obviously runs better on Nvidia you pleb.
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>>558383820
The datamine had serpents as morale and skill duration. Wingspos as +crit chance% for team and huntdown (+lumino damage) for self.
My prediction is that morale serpent will be changed to resolve since lumino has no other synergy with morale. Lumino then leans into being the 2nd resolve element, with more focus on weapon damage.
It lines up with how all the current Lumino chars focus on weapon damage and the supports don't have heals. With Nifle being the only exception that wouldn't benefit from these, and has anti-synergy with resolve due to her bonus healing from I4. Maybe they'll change one of the effects or add some other wedge for her.
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>>558390883
I gotchu my illiterate bro
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>>558392079
I still don't really get resolve
Psyche scales hard with resolve and all her wedges and passives go for it. I get she has that one passive that treats her like she's low HP but it has like a 2 min internal cd or something.
And the rest of the time by spamming skill she's constantly healing herself from the intron and basically gets no value from resolve and people run her with truffle who also heals so unless that skill is available she's always going to be pretty full HP?
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>>558394213
>skill is available she's always going to be pretty full HP?
No that's why Psyche is used for bursting. You can also build Psyche with Morale if you know you're going to take a lot longer than 30 seconds with constant healing.
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>>558394213
The drain on her health is pretty strong so in my experience it's not that hard to stay damaged if you don't spam the butterflies like you're about to get into top 10 on the SSS leaderboard. If that's still not enough you can use the new Fafnir's Decay mod on your stat stick gun and that will more than compensate any external healing.
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>>558394213
Putting Decay on her ranged weapon also affects her consonance so now she has an extra way to deplete her HP which means you can be much more liberal with the usage of her skill now even outside of her passive.
Prior to Decay, it was still better to maintain low HP with her outside of her passive instead of spamming her skill because resolve is that big of a damage boost.
The only issue, as you already touched upon, is Truffle. They really need to change her AI so she only uses her skill when the buff runs out and maybe when the other AI partner is at 50% HP or something which very rarely happens.
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>>558395551
>he actually managed to die in this game
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>>558396395
Psyche should be fine, she has a self heal option. Actually hard to keep her hp low without the decay wedge sometimes with E spam and long range potion autoloot.
Outsider instantly dies.
Lumino characters can survive if it doesn't do >25% of their hp in a short time. Truffle can spam a bunch of pigs to heal.
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>>558395404
Easily. I had significantly less than that and still landed comfortably in SS range for the first summit. Considering how long you've still got before the next summit, you can very realistically push for SSS with a reasonable level of weekly grind.
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>Outsider instantly dies.
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i got one at wave 9, you can get a blueprint in 5 runs? holy shit
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>>558381696
Serpent early pastebin leak puts pyro serpent as range or intensity like electro, intensity is tied to half moon polarity so duration blaze covenanter, range is tied to circle polarity so range HP covenanters.
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>>558395404
That wings is not working I think.
>>558404731
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>>558404481
You just do whatever you would normally farm for the 300% one. There's no special consideration needed. It's basically just a free green + blue book bonus added onto the run.
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>That wings is not working I think.
Wingspo morale only needs >= 300 max sanity so it's working in that build.
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You got a month, get those Wildfire and everything else to +10.
Also unless that Rhythm is support, Wings Inspo Volition is better on her as a main DPS. Your Support which should be Zhiliu should be the one carrying the Wings Inspo Morale.
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>>558412931
With fushu and syren your energy shouldn't be a problem. But wildcard will make stuff drop even further away from you on more open maps or not packed into 1 tile.
Before some update the new china expulsion had the wedges dropping beyond even distance that shows icon of dropped items.
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>will make stuff drop even further away
Skill Range only affects Electro Vortex initial burst and not the persistent effect.
Read nigga, read.mp4
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>>558414224
I swear I thought it applied to the second part between charged interaction but does not.
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I checked and all 3 important bits are fixed, the positive and negative giving, the connection between charges, introns you can't modify so the on death effect is also fixed.
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>Did you test
Did not, I lack the full range serpent or a second range weapon to try in the sand realm if the thing can jump between groups. I just assume as that would be the less stupid way they can code introns.
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My blacked wife is so beautiful...
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>>558415549
You only waste a fairly negligible amount of resources, besides the twilight tread I guess. Yeah it is pretty odd why skill range is one of her stat boosts when it does almost nothing on her. At least Rhythm is still a very strong unit so people are wiling to overlook that.
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>>558416526
Story skipper here. Why do you call my wife blacked?
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>>558415549
12% fewer resources per AFK farming session...more, actually, owing to how circles work and shit but it's 3 am and i'm not gonna do any mental math
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>>558421780
I got +1500 because fuck farming single wave wedge comms. Exploration infinite is my knowledge apple. Try and cast me outside Eden, Pan!
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>>558424682
I gave up using books on wedges cause they will drop when they rotate also I do it while watching YouTube and with a Rhythm so I just go to a spot, press Q, afk, and repeat for like 1~8 hours depending on what I feel doing. I barely even notice it cause I basically am doing it on my peripheral while watching Youtube.
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>>558429492
It will change everything the 1.3 situation is insane Su Yi is crazy she's broken massive lumino damage 10 huge mistakes to avoid in 1.3 don't make this mistake devs listened absolute peak cinema kino.
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>>558430473
???
What do gears have to do with it?
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>>558421780
Based.
People don't understand this is actually MORE efficient than just holding onto greens and taking way longer.
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>>558431394
>spam sanity potion
No one in the top 10 did that cause you literally lose about a second trying to drop them. It has been proven. Again only retards were spamming potions. I was in the top 100 and you won't get the damage we were doing wasting a second dropping sp pots.
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>>558437446
you don't like zhiliu's cleavage and her new prostitute outfit? hellfire's giant tits standing out? lynn's ass? fushu's swimsuit? sibylle's underwear when you jump? rhythm's prostitute cop outfit? psyche's exposed back and shoulders? reb's cleavage every time she bends over with her skin? margie's thicc ass?
for a conservative trad husband such as yourself don't you think you have enough visually appealing things to enhance your experience with the game?
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>the characters aren't wearing burkas, you can actually see... *checks notes* exposed back and shoulders.
>you can even sometimes see the ass outline under the clothes
>WHAT MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT YOU PORN ADDICT GOONER COOMBRAIN HUH?
This is the level of discourse we're at. Truly times are dire.
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>>558438661
if that helps you sleep at night go ahead but don't complain about your insatiable hunger for fan service when you reach a point where nothing is good enough as you get desensitized to it
you'll blame others instead of your own problems
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you can see more than that and if you weren't some desensitized coomer you would get turned on just from what you have
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>>558439003
You see my dear retard, you make it sound like it's my problem. In reality it's the devs' problem, since they want to sell a product to me and not vice versa. If the product is visually unappealing, I shall not be buying the product. Hope that helps!
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>it's not me it's the devs' problem
good job you just proved my point
>If the product is visually unappealing, I shall not be buying the product
you're buying the equivalent of drugs and complain the high isn't at your standards so your solution is to buy higher tier drugs instead of taking a step back and consuming in moderation
you're destroying your brain
you are becoming the product
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Where the fuck did this subhuman come from?
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>>558439664
you could try to read instead of being this attention deficit and improve yourself
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from trannycord of course i was sent as a secret agent here to infiltrate your community and change it from the inside
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>>558439827
After reading your """"""argument""""
money I've spent on censored skins: $0
money the devs made by selling censored skins to me: $0
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>>558440430
There's nothing wrong about not buying things you don't like. Your brain damage situation though seems to be terminal, as much as that can be deduced from our brief exchange. Good luck xister, you're gonna need it!
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>>558442340
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STUCK-HARDMAN is getting desperate bros
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>>558129249
I dropped it cause the game's combat lacks the depth that Warframe's has. I was hoping for an anime warframe-like and instead got Warframe-lite. Also I feel the story is far too much despair for my liking. If it is still around in a year I may come back to the story but going to not-china is kinda lame and boring since that is what killed my desire to play Genshin when it first came out.
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>warframe
>depth
Anon, if you're gonna shitpost at least do better. Yeah, DNA in it's current state is dumbed down Warframe but it's fundamentally still Warframe.
The main problem is that there's barely any content to play manually and co-oping isn't incentivized.
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>>558444536
>shitpost
I'm not. I was thinking about this game and thought to check-in since I did have some fun playing it. The two abilities versus four removes so much depth. Warframe has so much crazy jank builds that it does have a lot of depth even if you don't want to admit it.
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>>558443830
>not posted on the 'cord
>2 subs
>somehow posted here
Hello stuckman hope you get your bug fixed. Why did you buy the school outfit if they haven't fixed your issue? You should buy it after they do that.
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>>558444782
Don't pay attention to that retard, some of the posters here have extreme DE derangement syndrome to the point that it makes any genuine comparison of two games impossible unless you want to deal with extremely bad faith reductive statements.
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>>558445247
It's fromledditretards
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>>558444536
This isn't fundamentally still warframe, if it was then almost every mission wouldn't be afkable. You can say a lot of negative things about warframe, but at least you actually have to play that game. Missions being either fully afkable or only taking 30 seconds to complete is a massive issue and will kill this game if not changed quickly.
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>>558445320
>DE derangement syndrome
I don't blame them. I came in after they had fixed a good bit of the game and wasn't there during the dark times that some friends of mine told me about. I wouldn't have given Warframe the time of day had I been there during those times.
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>>558445681
I'm not saying you have to like warfarm, DE is a shit company and that's why we're here looking for alternatives. But at the same time you have to be an exceptionally pathetic cuck to let canadian fat fuck mindbreak you so hard you have to seethe and poison the discussion every time someone says something not even positive, just neutral in the context of comparing two games.
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>>558445591
This. DNA isn't Warframe and isn't trying to be. It just steals enough from Warframe that was required to speed up development time while not actually understanding the how and why that makes Warframe tick. It's a bargain bin version of a Mihoyo style gacha game that players(not the devs) promise will be a Warframe like eventually. At best it's an AFK Korean MMO where you're locked to two skills.
Asking them to copy more from Warframe is both fruitless and a tacit admission that the game has no real identity
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>>558445236
I don't have her built but if I wanted to make the best build possible I would do this.
I don't actually know if this is the best build or not tho.
I omitted Illusionary Sacrifice because Berry's consonance has incredible low base crit value so crit is pretty garbage on her and besides that all it gives is 55% skill intensity but since weapons are the only other source of skill intensity for Umbro, it might be good and farming 3 copies of a single Covenanter without knowing what the Winspo/Serpent wedges gonna be is iffy.
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GUY GUYS LISTEN I FUCKING LOVE WARFRAME AND DE I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I HAVE TO COME TO ANOTHER GAME'S GENERAL TO PRAISE THEM I HECKIN LOVE TRANNIES, DEI AND FEMINIST EMPOWERMENT HELL YEAH
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>>558446368
>Asking them to copy more from Warframe is both fruitless and a tacit admission that the game has no real identity
It's not like there's any plausible deniability in what that copied, like a "oh it's a general vidya thing". For example, they literally copied bullet jump, it's internally called bullet jump, it uses the same inputs and the same animations. So at the very least we can ask them to copy it correctly because while they did superficially copy the separate movements, there's no flow, no momentum buildup between them. Like if you are copying something, make it your own, make it better or at least don't make it worse.
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>>558444782
>The two abilities versus four removes so much depth
Only superficially. If you think about it, almost no frames actually use all four abilities. It's common to at least have a helminth slot.
And you have cases where some frames have ONE good ability. Atlas for example.
There is "some" depth in the few frames that can be built in more than one way and aren't just meme builds, but if you consider that most frames are glorified platforms for weapons that nuke entire rooms what frames are actually relevant? Because if you consider the weak off-meta frames, you absolutely must consider the weak off-meta weapons in DNA.
And yes, some frames don't rely on weapons and can be their own beast... because they fucking nuke the entire tileset.
Which i would argue removes from the depth. But yes, mechanically speaking, DNA is simplified. Practically speaking, they are very much comparable.
>558445320
>extremely bad faith reductive statements
And the other side is extremely weak unfounded claims from "experts" who only played 100h?
>>558445591
>if it was then almost every mission wouldn't be afkable
Almost every mission in warframe IS afkable. And the ones that aren't are "go from point A to point B"
>>558445681
>the dark times
You realize they haven't ended right? There is still no endgame, dedicated players are still marginalized and the devs still pander to new players and hyping new releases.
>>558447385
>it's internally called bullet jump
kek the mission names too
To be fair i don't think that's a big deal.
And i agree on "copy it correctly" and "make it better".
What we need is not "anime warframe-like". We need to make warframe a "space fantasy DNA-like". It's more about building up on it
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>>558448317
Alchemy - not afkable
Arena - afkable
Ascension - afkable + point A to point B
Assassination - point A to point B if they don't have invuln phases
Capture - point A to point B
Defection - point A to point B
Defense - afkable
Mirror Defense - afkable
Disruption - point A to point B
Excavation - afkable + point A to point B
Exterminate - point A to point B
Hijack - afkable + point A to point B
Infested Salvage - afkable
Interception - afkable
Mobile Defense - afkable + point A to point B
Netracells - afkable + point A to point B
Orphix - not afkable
Rescue - point A to point B
Sabotage - point A to point B
Sanctuary Onslaught - afkable to a certain point, some tiles/enemies are not afkable
Shrine Defense - afkable + point A to point B
Spy - point A to point B
Survival - afkable
Void Armageddon - not afkable
Void Cascade - point A to point B
Void Flood - not afkable
Volatile - not afkable
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>>558447952
The "other side" (again, very telling, you can't even discuss shit without immediately assigning your enemy, calling everything you disagree with a shitpost etc) is people who played the game for thousands of hours just as you but somehow avoided the profound mental damage you had not.
Like the shit you wrote about depth in your post and all the takes I've read in this thread before. Oh the park rhythm in the corner and go afk gameplay is comparable because octavia exists. Oh 99% of weapons being anemic shit that can't even headshot is okay because tonkor was meta at some point so it's basically the same. Oh 2 buttons is basically the same as 4 buttons because most frames have 1 ability anyway. I have a special beef with this because even having 1 ability + 3 timers to upkeep is infinitely more mentally stimulating than the shit we have here. Nobody can't be that stupid to actually, really, in their heart of hearts believe those takes, and talking with intentionally obtuse retards who just want their "side" to win because you're very upset at DE when you want to discuss vidya is incredibly fucking tiring at this point. Now go post the webm of you uninstalling for the 20th time, that will own your enemies for sure.
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>>558449087
Nothing with nullifiers is afkable, nothing with drops worth farming is afkable, nothing is afkable for a long time because due to scaling, even the easiest difficulty missions spawn enemies too strong to prevent oneshotting you, the objective or both, and your fully afk abilies stop being able to kill all enemies long before that.
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>>558449315
Nigga you keep giving no actual arguments.
>because octavia exists
And hildryn, and gyre, and titania etc
>99% of weapons being anemic shit that can't even headshot is okay
100% of weapons being number inflated shit that dont even care to headshot is okay
>I have a special beef with this because even having 1 ability + 3 timers to upkeep
Including wedges Rhytmn herself has 2 timers. What the fuck are you talking about.
Right now you can pick wisp(not even gonna mention rev), akarius and either sit your fat ass down and afk while "contributing" to the team or go from point A to point B very fast and murdering rooms at a time. How is that more gameplay.
Instead of pressing Q and E you're pressing LMB and E. Wow. In both games you can easily clear shit. In both games you can trivialize content.
>can't even headshot
Neither can the warframe weapons that actually matter. Besides like, Torid and some notable exceptions.
And even if you pretend all weapons could headshot, it still doesn't mean they should. Warframe's damage is so high you can just pick an average ass melee and hold E. Headshots were pretty much never relevant.
And all of the above without mentioning DE.
>thousands of hours just as you
X Doubt
>incredibly fucking tiring at this point
Then try making an actual point and disproving it maybe
>>558449968
>nullies
Just shoot the bubbles? Also most actual afk spots are either unreachable by them or put them in the line of fire so held LMB kills them the same way.
>nothing with drops worth farming is afkable
Fissures
>nothing is afkable for a long time
Fair point. Even though specters can bring you VERY far, eventually even they will fail. Even wukong pre-nerf did after all.
You CAN afk for several hours, but you would need a macro. And then that's literally cheating so i don't feel it counts.
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>>558452236
>X Doubt
Oh gee I wonder why you're being called an obtuse nigger when your default stance is treating thousands of hours in warframe like some kind of fucking life achievement that few only dream to approach. Get a fucking grip, you're not some kind of authority on this dogshit game.
>What the fuck are you talking about.
What the fuck are YOU talking about? The only timer you need is the timer on your phone that tells you that 30 minutes have passed and it's time to queue another 99 wave afk exploration. If you are trying to farm clues by actually playing the game you're actively griefing yourself because nothing comes close to the efficiency of afk farm.
And that is the crux of this reductive shit you keep spouting. Sure you can be mentally ill and do 100 hour survival or ye olde solo ivara interception for days or whatever, but you can also just play the game and not grief yourself which you for some reason fail to mention every single time.
>muh arguments
Why is it always the people who make no arguments themselves who keep screeching about it the loudest.
"in game 1 you press buttons and go from point A to point B and in game 2 you press buttons and go from point A to point B so they are the same"? Amazing fucking argument, really intellectually stimulating to discuss reductive shit that can be applied to any videogame ever.
>Headshots were pretty much never relevant.
Maybe this is your argument? The basic manipulation that substitutes the notion of "there are viable playstyles that don't involve headshots" with "the game might as well not have headshots because memeing strike was a thing" (pure fucking retardation, because at the same time headshots were never bad) There are abilities, mods, weapon passives based around weakpoint damage. At no point in the game's history there was a moment where I wanted to shoot heads and literally couldn't because my guns don't do damage.
As I said, conversing with obtuse niggers is very tiresome.
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>>558363279
lol. lmao.
>>558364369
This.
Everything after KCCO is a bad fanfic.
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>>558466641
thanks daphneposter
i don't know how much longer i can farm wingspo
i'm sitting on mostly +9s for my summit team of rhythm and zhiliu, my fushu is very behind with all purple covenanter's but who cares
at least when all's said and done the rhythm/zhiliu team will be able to AFK grind very easily
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>>558469861
What you should really consider is thatonce you're done farming winspo you'll soon have to farm it for the next element.
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>>558469861
You'd be better off placing a higher priority on boosting the foosh wedges to at least mid-level golds than on getting things to +10 imo. Going from 9 to 10 is 33% of the entire grind while only granting you 10% of the overall benefit; I think it's much better to scoop up all the easy boosts first, and THEN focus on statmaxxing with +10s.Why, yes, this is indeed my personal cope for dodging burnout; how could you tell?
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>Can't even sell my account for 5 dollar
Should I keep playing the game?
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>>558470728
Oh yeah, once your electric team can afk 99 waves the game literally starts playing itself without macro even. You farm letters in exploration, you open letters in exploration, you sell the mats for gold. Not sure how good of a thing this is because the last thing this game needs is even more afk shit but at least it saves your sanity (irl).
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>>558466641
>Daphne is so useless she wasn't even the one that revived it
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>>558470871
I don't feel like Foosh is actually contributing much besides sanity regen, but she is in a lot of team comps, so fuck it. Might as well give her a little bit of attention instead of focusing on getting my electro any tougher.
The recommended build for Foosh uses FIVE Wings volitions? Are you fucking kidding me?
https://boarhat.gg/games/duet-night-abyss/tools/build-planner/?build=e JyrVkpWslIyNFfSUSrOBbJMLECsIiALzMgt V7KKrlbKTAEKGFkaAIVKgCwQnQama3XgkoZ 4JE0t8Uma4jPWCJ9OCzySFvjstDTBlIwFeR zk37zSnBwdwgRIPXLwmOAJAUMzfJ4EBz85k oZ4Q51sY_FLYgl0UFAk4wg6kFw6UBnIyERw cAFTHFhWqRzCABmNIRZbCwD3wKSz
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>>558473794
This is "farm 4 scorches for Nifle" levels of absurdity, and it'll get tossed when we have knowledge of what our center wedge for hydro is, so I'm not going to bother.
>>558473846
With double +9 or +10 volition + center intensity + wingspo volition, are we not hitting the point of saturating skill intensity?
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Did I miss anything? I've spent all day over at CZN due to the massive panty nuke they just dropped.
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>>558471202
No it doesn't
Then you're just thinking if you should always leave the game on so you can afk farm
Waking up? Damn better start a run
Going to the bathroom? Damn better start a run
Planning to eat, maybe watch something? Damn better start a run
Tired want to sleep?
Damn better start a run
That'll get you all kinds of resources but it won't get you the two things you'll still need most
Red Gobules and Wedges
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>>558474491
That only matters if you have to make a choice between increasing one multiplier and another multiplier, then you'd go for one that's less saturated. If it's unconditional and outsourced it's not like the math suddenly stops working and it doesn't multiply anymore. Plus the summit events have artificial bonuses for having lots of intensity.
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>>558474814
True, I did catch myself once thinking "if I don't got to bed for 10 more minutes I'll be able to queue another run" but I mean I'd rather have the game play itself while I cook than having to choose between one or another.
>Red Gobules
Your millions of globs from the summit event shop?
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>>558472658
At the moment she is very underpowered.
Even maxed shes ok for afking and thats kinda it. She has kind of a tank kit, but nothing requires a tank currently.
And anything with bosses is absolute fucking pain.
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Key chains will save DNA
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>>558477219
IF they're ever sold in the West
The shit they sell in the East makes me want to fucking strangle DecaNIGGER
This Saiki shrine could've been in my house...
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>>558477418
What the fuck, I didn't know there was that many...
I mean that shit is cute and I'd buy the psyche plush but like, isn't this a bit of putting the cart before the horse? Like shouldn't the game become a smash hit first and THEN print endless physical merch?
All we have to do is befriend some gook and get him to buy and mail that shit to us before the game EoSes and all the saikis end up in a landfill...
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>>558462394
>why you're being called an obtuse nigger
Because you're angry and butthurt at someone for knowing the game better than you?
>treating thousands of hours in warframe like some kind of fucking life achievement
Saying i doubt you have a significant amount of time in the game since you seem to be unaware of any meta and efficient grinds doesn't mean i think anyone is superior because of it.
If you had 50k hours and was a turbo casual you could be just as clueless. I don't care about your hours. I care that you're talking nonsense.
>What the fuck are YOU talking about? The only timer you need is the timer on your phone that tells you that 45 minutes have passed and it's time to wait until seimeni is back on rotation to do another 100 wave arbi. If you are trying to farm anything tradable or purchasable by actually playing the game you're actively griefing yourself because nothing comes close to the efficiency of arbi farm.
>who make no arguments themselves
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>having four abilities is meaningless if you don't use them
>build depth is made obsolete by powercreep
>both games are very afkable
>12/27 mission types are afkable vs 5/14
>no endgame, new player pandering
>more than 1 character can afk
>weapons have the opposite problem where they are too strong and trivialize the game and it's mechanics
>DNA gameplay is comparable to what you said is "infinitely more mentally stimulating"
>headshots aren't relevant
>there are worthwhile missions to afk and you can afk vs any main faction
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>no arguments
>point A to point B [...] reductive shit
If the mission is about moving and ignoring anything else then of course it won't be afkable. That's true for both games.
However i feel like anyone could see how these should be a separate category, because something like Alchemy that you HAVE to actively play despite being in one spot is very different.
>because memeing strike was a thing
Now look who's being reductive!
I hope you're baiting me honestly
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>>558477979
>Like shouldn't the game become a smash hit first and THEN print endless physical merch?
These merch look like it'll be very cheap to manufacture anyways. Besides the two plushies, it's just printing art on a generic medium used by many other anime/games. They probably only need to sell a small portion of the merch to break even on it. Maybe someone with more knowledge on the business side of merch can chime in.
This is assuming Pan didn't greatly overshoot expectations and is sitting on large warehouses filled with unsold merch.
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>>558474814
>Red Gobules and Wedges
True. I've been grinding wedges more than exploration honestly
>>558475289
>Your millions of globs from the summit event shop?
Spent it all already. Yes.
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>>558478545
>for knowing the game better than you?
I highly, h i g h l y doubt that. In case right now happens to be the rare moment of self-reflection for you, you do not come off as some kind of knowledgeable veteran dropping truth nukes; you come off as the worst kind of obnoxious retard - one that's unaware of how retarded he is and thinks every time there was a spark between his last two functioning braincells it's literally god's gift to mankind that has to be shared asap. Well that, and you let canadian cucks live rent free in your head which makes you interject any time someone says something about warframe with um akshully they have it even worse. Your brain was fucked by me man - t. fat fuck.
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>>no arguments
All your "arguments" follow the exact same template so if you address one, you've addressed all of them. You state a truthful predicate like that there's no endgame or that there's powercreep and then draw the most exaggerated reductive conclusion out of them that doesn't logically follow. Even if there is powercreep, if in game A you can make a build that's 5%, 10%, 20% less efficient than the most meta one and those builds can be anything - melee, gun platform, ability spam, whatever, and those builds can still clear absolutely anything there is in the game; and in game B you have a very small subset of things that are viable and the overwhelming majority is dogshit (by design, mind you) that cannot be salvaged by any builds, then game A has quantifiably more variety, more depth if you will. And yet when someone says something to that effect, you show up with the same braindead "um akshully it's the same" *posts warframe steamdb*
I am obviously not going to go through that list one by one because it takes 5 words to state some intentionally obtuse bullshit and it takes a paragraph to reply to it.
>Now look who's being reductive!
You get what you put in the conversation. Tried not being an obtuse nigger? Don't answer that, rhetorical question.
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>>558483082
i just hope there's at least a couple of versions to play with my scarred barwife before EoS...
maybe i should start farming umbro wedges to prep for her
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>>558483621
Next patch, we don't know whether she'll be first or second but she and Su Yi are meant to be 1.3.
I've been farming my ass off for Electro to prep for this summit. Next summit will probably be Su Yi/Lumino because they're going to feature her over Camilla (since Su Yi has a leaked gacha skin, she's going to be the "banner character" for the patch) and I just don't think I have it in me to bash my face against lumino farming for that impending Summit when Camilla will be released at that point in time.
Farming lumino helps boost for inevitable summit next patch. Farming electro helps me with this patch's summit. Farming umbro boosts Camilla but she'll likely be off-meta.
I do like Berry, though. She was one of my first i6. Followed by Sybile. I hate my life.
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>>558482967
I don't want to alarm you but your lunos have disappeared
>>558483969
>Farming umbro boosts Camilla but she'll likely be off-meta
Do you care about summit title backgrounds or leaderboard position? If not, just get everything to +7 or close to that and call it a day.
Honestly, farm things you enjoy.
>Followed by Sybile
I hate linking him but this guy actually posted a sybille tech i didn't know and this might make her relevant.
And no, i don't care if you use adblock on his ass. I hate how he advertises here and the clickbaits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AsP69wh9BQ
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>umbro
Idk if you found updated info or something but the datamines/leaks I've seen says Camilla ispyro_
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>>558484672
How real do you want me to be?
Right now it's nice and has potential, staying power will 100% depends on updates and the decisions on how to maintain the game. Hard to say at the moment.
I'd say yeah, it has a good shot at staying alive long enough to improve enough that it becomes a very good competitor.
It doesn't have 11+ years of content so you'll have to have that in mind, that we don't have as many characters, weapons etc.
Overall i like DNA way better than warframe for reasons i already have been baited to discuss so i'll just say "i played warframe long enough to see the cracks".
All in all, try it. It still needs work, but it's the closest to proper competition we had in years.
You will get lag when you get to china btw.
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>>558485294
>i played warframe long enough to see the cracks
This is fucking me. People try to make me play Warframe again to do Archon, EDA, and ETA weeklies but I always refuse. Even the last event for that new focus school materials, I fucking did it for like a day with friends then just stopped. There is just something wrong with Warframe at this point and I can't tell it but I know it's there and that is what is keeping me from playing.
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>I fucking did it for like a day with friends then just stopped
Yuuup. And let me guess: The ones that did farm it finished within a week or two?
>There is just something wrong with Warframe at this point and I can't tell it but I know it's there
I can talk more about this some other time because i do have some ideas of what these things are, but since the thread had enough warframe let's just keep to DNA for now
Like how against all odds i kinda enjoy hunting geniemon. Even if i hate the rng
I wish they respawned daily, i just enjoy seeing what lil dudes spawned
Pets 2.0 when
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>>558484403
Oh, interesting. I was under the impression that she was Umbro. Glad I didn't start farming for her in advance then. Thanks for the heads up.
>>558484385
I want to get strong enough to actually get a fuckton of carmine since I didn't get any last time and it's a real nuisance this time.
I'll watch the Sybille vid though, thanks.
>>558484672
No daily limits on what you can do, every character is available in some form or fashion at all times, it's easy and relaxing to watch number go up.
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>>558484672
Game has tons of potential, being a literal Warframe copy and all, but the devs have no clue what to do with the game so it's kind of stuck in this weird limbo of wanting to both be a PC and a mobile game.
They also have no idea what to do with the monetization after they removed the character and weapon gacha.
The remaining players are hopemaxxing, as the kids would say, and the devs said on the stream they announced the removal of the character/weapon gacha that they are in it for the long run so EoS shouldn't happen anytime soon but in the 4 months the game's been out, the devs have just kinda been running around like headless chickens.
That said, the next major patch (1.3) will be the first to feature characters that weren't already in the betas and it's also going to be the end of the chink arc so people are expecting it or 1.4 to be the patch when devs make major changes.
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>>558488823
Yeah one guy did, everybody else I don't think did. Only one of us is actually extremely hardcore on Warframe and he was the guy that wanted to quit it the hardest when we got him into it. He was saying the game was boring and slow till he got a Limbo. Now he's basically a Limbo main that crunches numbers and builds day in and out.
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>>558488984
>a fuckton of carmine since I didn't get any last time
Well now when the next summit comes, make sure you farm at least 1 million of them lmao. I farmed about 1.3m and I'm down to 750k cause I started building more wedges. Who knew that not needing to do Escort constantly gives me more free time to actually Wedge.
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>>558489246
No, as much as I hate those things, they didn't bother me too much with it cause even when it's on your face Woke bs, at least they don't push you to actively partake in it.
There is just something feeling off with Warframe and I can't tell what it is.
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>>558488984
>get a fuckton of carmine
That's actually a VERY fair reason.
I'd say invest in Electro then so you can guarantee enough globs to easily max out Umbro/Pyro wedges later.
With some luck you might even get that sybille setup to work well enough to be your grinding team too. Hope you like it. Please share your thoughts if you try it
>>558489083
>Only one of us is actually extremely hardcore on Warframe and he was the guy that wanted to quit it the hardest when we got him into it
HAH many such cases. Even me somewhat. I shunned warframe for years until i finally decided to try.
>>558489246
The update he mentioned had minimal faggotry since it was about ayyliens and war.
But yeah, i don't even mention that low hanging fruit because you can avoid most of it. Most of it.
>>558489349
>at least 1 million
After you max your current wedges*
I maxed several weapon and misc wedges and hell, mine disappeared real quick
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>>558490076
>I maxed several weapon and misc wedges and hell, mine disappeared real quick
Yeah 1m isn't a lot lmao. That's just me working on Electro, a bit of Hydro, and now Pyro wedges. 500k+ already gone. I'm planning on getting a lot more during the summit. This should be easier cause at least it's not like with the last where you had to spam E to clear it on a decent time and that constant button presses was starting to aggravate my carpal tunnel.
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>>558489083
>>He got a Limbo.
Dear God, may he find peace with the poor guy, anything fun he could do was gutted because his kit just countered the game design, za warudo azima and bullets were removed because of optimization, capacity to do damage through rift was patched from zaws, and now everything and everyone ignores the rift because over guard is a terrible balance tool which hyper fixates on damage as the only path forward.
I dread seeing what stupid shit De will rework him into. On a plus side he was even removed from conclave so he got freedom.
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He knows the issues but he loves to do SP with Limbo solo doing like insane primers and whatnot. I always tell him. Even if you post a 3 hour video or whatever of you doing an SP survival with a Limbo, you still have to do insane prep to run one. Me, I can just go on Octavia and do 3 hours with no weapons, no primers, and no insane prep.
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The sound of spamming the 3 highest notes for each buff cause I don't care for it. I have it muted anyways. Also for memes I have this on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6wtDPVkKqI
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Are you starting in the Waterfall room? If you're starting from the room where you have to go up on a slope, mobs don't spawn.
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>>558503170
Oh I didn't realize this wouldn't show up on reverse searches.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141575070
https://x.com/tsow_nh/status/2026179401696850352
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>so desperate for easy TR that i'm i6ing randy and outsider
anything to avoid returning to the mediation mines...
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>>558510432
quite literally every single thing the devs have done since release other than accessory customizationbut that was also bungled by the bug preventing custom positioning from being seen by other players lmao
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What weapons would you guys consider useful? Both statstick or not.
I can think of these, but i'm probably missing something:
>Wanewraith
>Sacred Favour
>Halcyon Gracefall
>Undying Oneiros
>Eternal Farewell
>Elpides Abound
>Vernal Jade Halberd
>Siren's Kiss
>Rendhusk
>Embla Inflorescence
>Arclight Apocalypses
>Ephemeral Lumina
>Dreamweaver's Feather
>Blast Artistry
>Guixu Ratchet
>Destructo
>Stellar Finality
>Bluecurrent Pulse
>Excresduo
>Sacrosanct Decree
>Entropic Singularity
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>spoiler
no one has explained this yet >>558212260
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>>558511079
>accessories work properly in coop missions, but not in any of the world hubs where people might actually see them
fucks sake man i just do not get it
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Hey all, it's...
Anyways I'm very sorry I haven't gotten to update any of my sheets and sites since Fushu's release. I spend 13-16 hours a weekday doing work related things now so my free time become virtually non-existent.
If someone would like to take over, I'd be happy to pass the baton. Please let me know.
I'm still playing of course. 20k into TR65 now and I've been hyper-casual about everything. But definitely not to the extent as I was before.
I'm glad some of the changes we've suggested have been implemented but it's a long way to go.
Cheers, and have a good rest of your day
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>>558518224
No problem, take it easy anon. Thanks for all your efforts, I for one appreciate it
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I have no idea what the fuck happened here.
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>>558507191
Thank you for posting my blacked wife.
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>my blacked wife did a lot of damage
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>>558529492
I want to engage in nursing handjob baby play with the three bbas at the same time.
DECABEAR ALLOW MC TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE COUCH AS WELL AND OPEN UP THE 2ND CHAIR FOR PLACING CHARACTERS YOU FUCKING COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>558532053
If it ever gets to the point where this general legitimately dies, we can always make a /dna/ pisscord server.
In my experience, 4chan servers never tend to last that long but it could be a nice thing to have for the few people remaining.
Last one I was a part of was a server for SAO Fractured Daydream that we made on /v/. Only lasted about a month but it was still nice to have.
Part of me thinks it wouldn't hurt to make it already cause the thread already has to be emergency bumped occasionally but if we make it now that would 100% lead to the actual death of the general which I don't want.
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The fatty filthtoids can filter casuals because they jump and nuke groups. But if you have basic MMORPG knowledge you can do everything just fine with a tank+healer+damager combo with adequate positioning. Before a certain rank you don't get access those fatties yourself so you need to use runes for shield up on tanks with damaging units and a debuffer for def.
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Is there a bug with secret letter clues? I had 500 at the start of the day, did like ONE 99 wave afk and a bunch of wedge farming and I'm up to 1.6k. I'm TR64 btw but the math isn't mathing considering I shouldn't be getting that much letters clue per 30 second run.
Also 13 Wings Inspo damn.
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>>558540820
>multi elemental characters
Holy fuck you're a genius. Now we can use wedges for 2 elements that usually don't overlap. Like Anemo/Pyro so you can use Volitions on a Pyro since they don't have it and you can use Eternity on Anemo cause they don't have that.
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>>558541363
I think they meant a multi-elemental character in the same way as Nifle. Where the character itself is still considered only one element but their skill's damage is split between two different types. Although the elements themselves don't really have unique properties, so it would just be a character that can do well in 2 types of element content without excelling at either. At least lumino and umbro have a bonus effect on trigger besides a different color of damage.
An actual dual element character that can access two wedge types would be somewhat tricky to balance. Maybe okay for now as long as two elements picked don't have a crazy set of covenanters. Though it still opens things up to balance issues with any future elemental wedges.
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>>558544810
Based on some skimming someone who hacked other games before like Infinity Nikki and Genshin has made some malware that has pre infected some people via other ways unrelated to DNA. Things such as scanning bad QR codes that redirect to wrong places or just downloading shady programs or games.
This was used later via DNA's standalone client by altering your updater where it's downloading files and messing with your client. Basically the ones who had any side effects were already infected and simply having windows defender or firewall up would stop this. Also this doesn't affect steam or epic clients.
>>558549715
Uninstall, check your PC for viruses, download steam or epic version. Change your password to be sure.
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>>558549858
Apparently some are getting this on steam but it should be fine.
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>>558549858
>simply having windows defender or firewall up would stop this.
There are that many people that just surf the internet without any firewall or anti-virus? Would be kinda fucked if this was the actual vulnerability exploited, cause I see people already blaming the game for it. Although I feel like it would be a more common occurrence if it wasn't something related specifically to DNA.
Unless the people capable of doing this decided to target specific games. Or there's a lot of firewall-less people out there that are vulnerable and they only find out because these guys decide to do some trolling instead of abusing it.
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Only thing that doesn't add up is that some steam clients still see the wrong server despite the claim that they didn't get affected at all or that basic firewall should've stopped it.
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>>558553537
maybe if the devs did SOMETHING
>no livestream
>no hype news
>no mention of QoL
>no mention of content
>standard banner hasn't been updated once
>monthly card and battlepass still suck
>the majority of the roster is still useless
>the wedge farm is still a loading screen simulator instead of actual gameplay
Name one great thing about this game
They aren't even pandering to gooners with these censored skins
For a game that wants to monetize cosmetics that should have been the first fucking thing
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>>558556393
As long as they're trying to sell manuals they'll never add QoL to the wedge farm. The reason the game is shit is because they want you to buy manuals to skip the frustration. Why do you think they made the new wings inspo require 20 blue wedges?
TL65 +10 maxed lv90 team grinding a lv40 stage a thousand times
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>>558558789
Is this true? The things he said....?
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>>558562559
Leaker found a vulnerability and was able to get into the database, change the names of the NA/EU servers and place that message on screen for players.
>>558561110
The fun part is there's no reason to not believe them. They've clearly proven they can get directly into the main server where the game is stored and can see the files
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>>558563594
>game itself is slop
>launcher is GIGA slop that barely works to the point that I can only play it on steam
In retrospect I dunno why I expected the backend part to be any less slop...
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Thanks
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Thanks bwo.. now I have to save them till EOS...
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>>558565370
With that kind of security I wouldn't even be surprised for some skiddie to go "actually it eoses now"
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>>558566329
He clearly didn't hack it enough. If he had real access he'd give everyone a million plumule to fuck their entire business.
There would be rollbacks of course, but nobody would ever trust them again.
All he did was yap and this will be forgotten in a month.
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>>558566329
>I made it in boys i'm deep in the super duper kernel level mainframe
>I THINK it has a rat or other malware but I can't tell
>I'm not deep enough to know
>I have nothing to leak either so uhhh
>be very afraid china bad ok
Hmm nyo.
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>>558566741
I don't give a fuck about the database, I give a fuck about random people being able to send arbitrary files to my computer through the official launcher. How computer illiterate are you niggers holy shit
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https://x.com/migrainzxxl
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>>558549858
>Also this doesn't affect steam or epic clients.
Lord Gabe i fucking kneel
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>>558567176
This can happen to any game that updates by the way. Even programs like Notepad++ got their updates hijacked recently. It all depends if the company cares enough to learn from the mistakes of others which in the case of DNA's devs they didn't raise their security. When 4chan got hacked it was done by a fucking pdf file on a board that supports posting them because their infrastructure by then wasn't updated in over a decade.
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So it's game over? I had such high hopes for Lisbell's game, this is just sad.
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>>558567176
i doubt this can happen on the steam client, i would presume with how good valve are they have safeguards that check updates on their games as it would make them viable to be sued for buying products on their platform that make your PC vulnerable to being hacked
thats only a presumption i could be very wrong however
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>>558558789
not as bad as when Endfield let randoms drain your paypal account.
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>>558568812
I know, supply chain attacks have been really popular lately. To the n++ team's credit at least they disclosed to what degree were they compromised and what measures are taken to prevent that from happening again
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-update/
Sure hope the chinese are going to do something similar, even if it's a nothingburger, especially if it's a nothingburger.
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There were instances of malware ending up on steam. BlockBlasters was the most recent example I think.
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I KNEW THEY WERE USING AI
ONLY AI CODING COULD EXPLAIN WHY THE GAME IS SO SLOPPY AND BUGGY
MUH "OLD CODE" LMAO
But it using Genshin code was really a stab in the heart, fuck...
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>i doubt this can happen on the steam client
It absolutely can happen. I saw the case of a pirate game that launched clean, got approved by Steam, then added a malware update/patch. Why did it happen? Because Steam only checks if a game is clean upon release, they don't check every update/patch released after that
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This type of shit was what made me drop Warthunder once a hacker there managed to essentially access people's accounts, send messages on their behalf, add and remove tanks, insta destroy tanks in battle, etc, and the WT devs didn't address this situation at all
I'll be dropping this shit too until Pan comes out with full transparency in the next few days
And I reiterate my PURE HATRED for fucking CHINKS
FUCK CHINKS
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>>558570751
There were 2 parts that were affected:
1. Those with the standalone client had some files changed where you'd get the image from here >>558558789
This got patched in less than 1 hour
2. Server displayed "Keitaro_GG". Even after the fix some clients still have it shown as visual leftover. There's no clear pattern because some steam clients also see this but the game runs just fine. There's speculation about router security, firewalls, existing viruses on your PC before this whole thing started. It's not fully clear.
The former is impossible to get. If you still have the latter reinstall the client. Game works just fine even if it shows that guy's name but if you want to be sure reinstall.
If you had none of the issues then your game didn't get affected in any way shape or form.
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>>558574880
>brooooo I know these people teased the possibility of having a malware bundled with the game, but like, it's suuuch a nothingburger!!!
It's a pretty big deal for anyone that cares about their PC and data. Goyim will continue to eat up the slop as usual though
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>overracting
I take opsec very seriously. I give companies some trust by installing their software. If that trust is breached because of their bad practices why should I continue using that software? That person can download info on me from the game servers and all they'll get is a throwaway email so I don't care, but I draw the line when it has a risk of infecting one of my machines.
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>>558577362
I can understand that it breaches your trust. That's fair.
But do you extend this reaction to things like microsoft, google, your browser and so on?
If not, since this is comparatively small in severity, it's fair to wait for them to speak up.
Now, if they DON'T say anything and sweep this under the rug i 100% agree with you.
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>>558578021
>But do you extend this reaction to things like microsoft, google, your browser and so on?
Yes. So far those big companies only have data breaches. I can protect myself fine since I know how to separate information I don't mind risking in a data breach and information I don't want coming out.
I've used programs before where the developer threw a tantrum and injected malware in their code. I stopped using it even though it's still popular. I've experienced this multiple times and I will stop using their stuff whenever it happens.
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this? does it matter if before or after installing? i did that just now and it didn't change
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>>558571742
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>>558578021
nta but lol? what kinda retarded whataboutism is that?
The day my browser displays a message "hello from randomfag1999 uv been haxd" as its homepage because they can't control what files they serve it's going into the trash faster then their CEO can get on twitter.
>comparatively small in severity,
And you know that how? It came to you in your dreams? We know nothing about the magnitude. Maybe all that you could do with that vulnerability is replace the manifest file with server names. Maybe you can replace any file that's being served by the launcher. You have to be an actual mouthbreathing tard not to always err on the side of caution when it comes to security. But hey that would be committing a hecking overreaction and we just can't have that.
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>>558579215
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>>558578970
"Do you react in the same way if something pops you in a server fetched information?"
Yes = fair enough
No = overreaction
>And you know that how?
Changing a text line and an image is very minor.
>>558579463
And you choose to overreact about the word psycho, of course.
I didn't mean it but you're not doing a good job defending yourself
>>558579215
Trying to pay us off with compensation would be worse honestly.
Both would be good reasons to quit the game and anything they ever release.
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>>558579215
Have you seen the gift codes they have gave or the regular compo?
It's has always been shit.
A blue manual, or 15 luno mementos.
The very best I think we've had was 60 fake phoxene.
Expecting any form of comp is a fools errand with this studio. They won't even fix the monthly or battlepass so our money has value.
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>>558579685
At least the Nihahabro was funny, wasn't a brown ESL, and just said
>"hey man, your game is hackable and your players data is at risk, fix this"
He didn't say
>"also, we're inside the devs servers for 3 years, and the game may or may not have a virus right now ;)"
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>>558579867
>"Do you react in the same way if something pops you in a server fetched information?"
You forgot the part where that server fetched information is placed there by a third party that should not have any access to the server in any capacity. So rewrite the question correctly and try again.
>>>And you know that how?
>Changing a text line and an image is very minor.
You have to be shitting me. You can't be that computer illiterate. I refuse to believe I'm sorry.
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>>558579867
>Changing a text line and an image is very minor.
Only because the guy didn't do anything. Imagine if it was someone with bad intentions. It's not the fact that only a few lines was changed or that an image popped up, it's the fact that it happened in the first place.
Imagine buying a car but it had no air bags. No accidents for a year but then you find out later that it didn't have any airbags. Then the dealer you bought it from said "it's no big deal, nothing happened anyways". We were lucky nothing happened but if something did happen then it would have been a much bigger issue.
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It's more like you one day find a message inside the car saying the car may not have the airbags.
I surely would want the dealer to prove me there are fucking airbags in that case.
Also did the hacker prove in his discord server or something that he could have done more?
If he just said it is one thing. If there was proof he could do more, then it's another VERY serious thing.
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I know, i meant regular rolls and not premium rolls. Sorry
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I'm playing on standalone client, though I've always launched the game directly instead of through the launcher. Playing on Americas server too if that makes a difference.
If the hackers fucked with the game/download server itself I would expect this to be much more widespread and affecting anyone that played the game, at least within a particular region.
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>>558558789
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>>558584684
SHIT YOU WERE RIGHT IM SORRY
IM SO SORRY
I SHOULD HAVE UNISTALLED
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>>558572323
This has happened to studios of other gacha games too. Infinity Nikki and Love & Deepspace sites got hacked with the same "keitaro_gg" tag in the message. Blue Archive got hacked on a deeper level and they were able to replace various assets with one particular character.
You could say they all use AI code but server breaches have been around long before AI coding was a thing.
Also their claim was that it internally either directly states genshin or panshen. Not that it literally uses code from Genshin, which would imply Pan devs and this hacker have access to Genshin's code. I assume it's a similar thing to how "helix jump" is still called bullet jump in the code.
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>NOTHING HAPPENED
Chinese are masters of acting like nothing happened. Keitaro_gg incident didn't happen, nothing to see here.
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>sites
Yeah, sites, nothingburger unless sensitive data is stored there, which generally isn't because most gachas with websites I've played don't have a login system on it
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Wasn't it merely server-side? And again, there was no "teehee we have access to the files and you might be infected with a Trojan ;)" message with BA
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>>558586316
Idk what you mean by server side, but it doesn't seem that different from what's happening here. The person was able to change what BA players loaded up in their game. They made it load a specific Youtube channel but I imagine it could've also loaded up any other site instead.
I don't see why the message they put up matters. The person could write literally anything even if it's not true. Nexon's official report claims the hacker didn't have access to game/account/payment data.
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Nah it's most likely stored properly. Not because I trust the asian coding, but because their game is just glued together middleware and pretty much anything nowadays is configured to hash and salt passwords by default.
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Baker, consider using this as the OP image
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Yes i would like some bread please
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