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>What is Duet Night Abyss?
Duet Night Abyss is a free-to-play action role-playing game where all the characters and weapons can be obtained for completely free by grinding or farming them in-game.
>FAQ (Read this for an introduction to the game)
https://rentry.org/dnaguide
Character recommendations can be slightly outdated. Please follow the Immersive Theater cycle or ask in thread for more up-to-date character recommendations.
>Useful Links
https://rentry.org/edyo3dhz
>1.2 Update
https://youtu.be/eLHgk6iVbOo
https://youtu.be/gFtSmpNaeMM
>Schedule for 1.2 Events, Theater/Letter Rotation, and Geniemon Reset
https://rentry.co/DNAV1_2
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Eeeeeeei!
Yaaaaaaah!
Yotto!
Un...sho!
Onegai!
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ok but the fact that tabethe's character is that she literally steals from bad guys and she's loli hydroid from warframe but doesn't have a drop rate boost passive pisses me off
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>>558596754
Do not forget your
Daily
>Memo
>Bard's Tome (BP)
>Expeditions
>Reputation Donations (if needed to rush it)
Daily Extra
>pre-craft 12 Gold Sand and 12 Repulsive Crystals for future Sharpening Potions or Projectiles (depending what you need most)
Weekly
>5 Nocturnal Echoes
>3 Chase
>1 Mystic Maze
>3 Reputation Gauntlets for each region (currently 6 in total)
Special
>Theater clear rewards and shop letters before reset
>check for Geniemons every 3 specific days
>Fish shop
>Prism shop buy the 5 Prismatic Hourglasses every reset
>Mystic Maze shop buyout before reset
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>finally boot up the game
>it's not actually hacked
Did I fall for a meme? People were saying you had to clean cache and reinstall but I didn't do either.
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>>558597868
Delete this. Nothing of significance happened today and no unusual files were served to the players.
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>>558597985
>mandatory fat ass tan loli in every single party
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>>558597868
>Players Are MASS QUITTING Duet Night Abyss After The Last 24 Hours
>check the steam charts
>the same population slopes as always for the past week
CC are faggots as always
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>>558596085
It was never an increase every 3 waves for defense. It supposed to go up as before for wave 1-3 then increase every 5 waves up to a certain point. I haven't checked myself recently but I don't think anything changed about that.
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r8
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why is hackerman a genshin fag and so angry that the game's internals call it genshin anyway? This is a house of glass and throwing stones situation.
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>>558600783
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1h73ssp/infinity_nikki_s ite_got_hacked/
that guy advertised some genshin private server in the past so he's not a genshinfag
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>>558596754
Just got the news.Nothing ever happens. All in.
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The state of these threads and (apparently) of the game reminds me of ToF.
I'm sorry; I wish the game could be saved since there's at least a part of the dev team that's passionate about it, going from the first two chapters, but, unfortunately, not everyone makes it. I hope that miracle comeback happens, but most games can't be BA.
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>>558603645
I honestly could keep on playing casually for a long time, despite the gameplay being quite shit, but I can't forgive bad security
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1.3 will save the game.
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>>558603645
the security thing is too much for me personally im not advocating it for this game because i like the game but ive uninstalled until its fully addressed by the devs and new measures are put in place because that is fucking insane to me
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1.6 will save the game
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It's over bros... people can't forgive a security hiccup. They are dropping the game en masse... eos tomorrow.
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>>558605494
I stumbled onto one of his (non-DNA) videos once and he was crying about some loli character so I closed the tab and that was it.
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>>558605187
i just seen a stix video on it, the pinned comment on it says
MAJOR UPDATE: I was told that a moderator confirmed via their official Discord that fixes had already been rolled out for the hack. I asked if I could quote them via DM for a follow-up video to address any missing information in this video (such as the fix itself,) and they asked me not to. I was instructed to not quote them, and not to discuss anything further until an official announcement is made, or until they have official confirmation from the team themselves. Sorry for everyone waiting for me to follow this up with a 2nd video with more information. You'll all have to wait until I'm allowed to!
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>>558597868
>players are MASS QUITTING after the last 24 hours
>they literally aren't
>most of them that quit did so long before this ever happened
I wish there was some way to punish or algorithm cuck "content" ""creators"" that just blatantly lie.
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>>558606394
The best way I know is to open their videos, let them play for like a minute and close them. This is apparently poison for the algorithm. You can also false report their videos on different accounts. Any other kind of interaction is a positive.
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>>558606394
Pay for Google adds on groups of people that would just click and close the video early, or just bot it yourself. I remember spiffing Brit looking at ad sense and having the nuke others channels on algorithm option.
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>>558607218
I've done nothing but quit the game for three days!
Those players quitting en masse? All me!
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>>558612842
>male characters are worse than dogs
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EOS date
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>>558614353
unironically if Kezhou was Krypto instead he'd be a thousand times more popular
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>>558615298
???
When did i say anything about graphics?
Everything there looks like shit. It looks generic and really boring.
>when was the last time you had fun wedge farming?
Earlier today actually. I really like the bountiful day event.
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>>558615480
fuck yeah bountiful day is possibly the best event I've ever played in any gacha gama
I just love how it doesn't change anything at all and just gives you more stuff
Really makes those Umbral Monument stages seem like dogshit doesn't it?
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>>558615298
NTA but Hotta's "solid track record" consists of Tower of Fantasy... and that's it.
This anon ( >>558603645 ) feels that the state of this thread and game reminds them of ToF. Feel free to debate with them whether that's supposed to be a good thing.
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>>558614879
Does it have character gacha?
Does it have homeopathic amounts of multiplayer activities?
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>>558615781
You can play ToF Warp Server right now for free
There is no gacha
You'll have more fun there than you will doing anything in DNA the rest of this year
The game doesn't just have combat. You can race around, websling around, jetpack, grapple hook, wall run, there are anti gravity zones, you can even fly a mecha in space.
It has some cool as fuck undersea content, with actual underwater combat and exploration. A cool cyberpunk town with a bunch of mall mini games like mahjong, laser tag, dance club, tons of shit.
Hotta made an actual game first. Where as DNA is just some shitty monetization scheme where they've created stupid as fuck farms and want you buy manuals to skip them.
But sure lets argue DNA is "better"
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>>558596754
quit a month ago
heard about the hack
good luck with surviving
btw, here's the maze / theater / summit macro- https://github.com/4444753951/a/releases
use nifle w/ embla & def sword
fuck maze
>>558613939
yes you idiot it doubles her already stupid dps, the sooner you get it sooner you can afk to wave99 for infinite clues
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>>558612842
It's very easy to fix this issue: make the m*les into an absolute bro, preferably robotic, and a design that appeals to men instead of holes, just like ZZZ's Billy. Billy is the only male in that game I actively play with, his autism resonates with me
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>>558619713
see if I knew how to fuck with shit like that I'd really rip the game up
this simple kentaro message everyone will forget by 1.3
if I could fuck up the game where they have to do a rollback and actually deal with some drama for a while, players would remember that
this message that nothing happened feb 25th is just as weak as the devs effort to make a good game business as usual
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>>558620373
>if I could fuck up the game where they have to do a rollback
I'm getting all hot and bothered thinking about the compensation they'd give for that...Maybe 1 gold book...?
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>>558619713
Honestly that tracks. It explains why it felt so random: steam uses its own cdns; launcher rotates between like 4 different cdns, you can check the ini files of emlauncher for details. If only one or two were compromised it's a gamble whether you got the message or not.
It's more spooky than some database shit because who knows for how long that hole has been open, who else knew about it and what kinda shit has the launcher been downloading all this time. That's assuming any of this is true of course, would've been nice to get some statements from the devs...
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FIRE HAG LOVE!
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>>558623905
It's the least intensive before rank 60. I usually do it with Fina. Use her ult and tab out for a few minutes then come back and move to the next one.
Chase is another option to get coins. Faster than Excavation but you have to actively play instead of being semi-afk.
Once you get to 60 Maze is the fastest.
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>>558624881
>purple books
>on coins
Time to start over bro
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>>558627253
We'll have to wait for the official response to be sure about the extent of the attack. I haven't seen any reports of something malicious happening.
If it's the same as the Blue Archive attack, the hacker wouldn't have had access to sensitive info or player data. They would've only altered the CDN to display their message and changed the server selection options.
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>>558627253
Allegedly yes. It's still worrying because if anything now more malicious people might be interested in poking their infrastructure and we'll just have to trust that this one was their one and only hiccup and everything else is rock solid.
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>>558629185
I've been crafting them up from green/blue books. Only time I do it is for the bonus primander mission since it's not efficient otherwise.
I don't think there's any reliable sources of direct yellow books besides buying them with plumules.
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>>558630749
They're retarded and/or probably tried to pander to the westoid tranny/hole crowd by making the uniform a mere cosplay to dodge muh "diddy ahh blud" drama
You can see the intent with how they maintained the spats, and added unequippable garter belt, gun holster, belly garter belt (?), choker, a collar, a sailor top chain (?), and a wrist chain
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>DNA EN's twatter account finally makes a post
>it's about an upcoming shitty event
Lmfao
And as you'd imagine, they're getting clowned on by everyone in the comments
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>>558635389
tbf these are scheduled tweets. It's not like a person sat at the computer and decided to type that out instead of addressing what happened. Jumping all over a tweet scheduled probably over a week ago is also clown behavior.
That being said, I do agree it's been somewhat slow for a response. By now, there should've at least been an official acknowledgement that they're investigating, it doesn't even need to be a full response statement for now.
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>>558625125
same bwo
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Is it safe to play bwos...
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They finally addressed the issue. Basically
>it was all front-end/visual, guys
>b-but you should reinstall your game
>a-also don't log in using third-party methods
https://x.com/DNAbyss_EN/status/2026934319974162687
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>>558644015
>>b-but you should reinstall your game
Gotta admit, this doesn't look good at all.
They are basically admitting that something COULD have been in our files.
I think i'm leaning towards the doomposters now
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>>558644015
Proper QRD
>some genshin drone "hacked" the login interface to display a message sucking genshin's dick to some users when logging in
>they investigated and fixed the issue
>payment information was unaffected
>player personal information has not been compromised
>issue was caused by malicious tampering with CDN resources and the server list display interface
>anomaly occurred at the front-end presentation layer and did not involve any extraction or leakage of core data
tl:dr, looks really bad, but nothing actually happened.
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>>558644015
Their wording is stupid because they call it a "display abnormality" but it was more than that. There were basically two problems, one major that affected standalone clients altering it and showing that schizo image which got resolved quick but they barely even mention it as the "abnormal display content appearing on the game interface", and the server select one where the list was replaced with that guy's name, but for this one anyone could've gotten this as a visual bug. Not everyone got affected by this so I assume you had to be online at very specific points in time.
>affected players
>uninstall and reinstall
I just checked and they did fix the server display for the few who still had it shown wrong like myself. Reinstalling and clearing caches did nothing yesterday. Meaning it really was a visual leftover on their side after they fixed the core issue. I assume they advise this for those who used the standalone client and had it altered.
>and to log in using account credentials rather than third-party authentication where possible.
That's a weird one but I guess convenience can have its security flaws if some general exploit is found. But tell that to all the retards who login with google and facebook everywhere.
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>>558648278
And the "reinstall lmao" issue? That's concerning
>>558648327
>I assume they advise this for those who used the standalone client and had it altered.
It's still something weird to advise though.
It sounds like they are afraid something could still be in people's computers, even if it's not the case
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>>558648636
>Recommend affected players to uninstall and reinstall the game, and to log in using account credentials rather than third-party authentication where possible.
>uninstall and reinstall
Trying to read this as "please reinstall kudasai" is just doomposting. You could just as easily see it as them begging users to uninstall
They're literally just recommending that to be completely safe from any possible problems, uninstalling and reinstalling the game should clear any potential lingering effects of the issue.
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>>558648636
They probably don't know if it's something that's of bigger magnitude or a nothing burger. The guy schizoposted and did fearmongering more than show what he can do. All while pretending he's the good guy who just wants to warn others of le bad china company.
This guy was a leaker for Genshin, hacked websites of other games and Blue Archive had a similar incident. At best you can argue that Nexon is more professional, knows perfectly what happened and more transparent than Pan regarding this.
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Pyro is almost done. I just need extra Morale blue prints and 15 purples to easily +10 the Morale.
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>>558649736
>At best you can argue that Nexon is more professional, knows perfectly what happened and more transparent than Pan regarding this.
Yeah, hard to argue against that. Pan did such a shit job.
But thanks for explaining more
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>>558648278
So basically the same as the Blue Archive Koyuki hack. Blue Archive already had an established core playerbase so they were able to bounce off of that without much issues.
DNA unfortunately started not long ago and is still trying to get a good sustained playerbase to support development. This incident will leave a bigger mark. If they can manage to turn the game around despite this, it'll at least only be mainly a short term effect.
>>558648636
>It sounds like they are afraid something could still be in people's computers, even if it's not the case
It sounds like basic risk management to me. They did their investigation and as far as they know, no malicious files were downloaded or could've been downloaded into the affected people's game files. Now they can either:
>Say nothing needs to be done
Get in some very deep shit if something slips by. Potential legal issues.
>Recommend people reinstall the game
Affected users start with clean game files again, risk factor removed entirely.
Downside: the relatively few people it affected has to redownload the game and some 4channers speculate off this to spread suspicion
If you're a studio launching their first game and attempting to bring up their reputation from a bad start, would you risk it even if it's a 0.1% chance that the hacker did something bad? Or would you just tell affected people to reinstall?
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>>558650767
>Potential legal issues.
Fair enough, i didn't see it from this point
>>558650953
Further notice was given
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>>558650767
Yeah its unfortunate to have something like this happen now when the game is already in a rough spot. Even if its not something that had more serious outcomes like endfield's paypal blunder, the last thing this game needed was another reason for people to distance themselves. I guess on the bright side, its low playercount might have minimized the exposure to it but its not a good look either way.
This game is going to have to deliver big in 1.3 and/or 1.4
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>>558651359
Nothing is improving in 1.3 and nothing is improving in 1.4 either. Movement will still be the same spear dash shit with everything else feeling bad or slow, weapons will still be useless, only 3 characters will be viable to play.
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>>558651491
According to their statement, it only affected people launching it through the launcher. If you didn't see the hacker message or the alternate server select up until now, then you should be fine.
In my case, I opened the game through the exe and wasn't affected. I saw no reason to open the launcher outside of version updates so I always launch directly.
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>>558661491
Only side effect steam had was a visual one where at server chosen it was Keitaro_GG but the game worked fine. It wasn't connecting to that guy's domain. It only happened to a few who were around at some specific relatively unknown time frame.
The main problem was the standalone client for under an hour having their client modified.
By the time NA woke up yesterday everything was fixed. The ones with the visual bug stopped having it today.
If you experienced none of that you're fine for sure.
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I think I'm uninstalling and going back to Laegue of Legends
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>>558663715
I went there after 12 years and they have Vanguard anti cheat staying up with your PC unless you deactivate it. And if you do you have to restart your PC to play league. Other anti cheats sleep until you use a game that needs them. Very suspicious.
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>>558663715
But this is League...DEMACIA
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mmhmmm we need some positivity here too!
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>>558664678
>OP's updoots gone
>last words changed to you are not welcomed
>normalfags use glowie to imply shill
How long do you think my thread would stay if I made a new account and posted a meta thread about the mod team being biased and pro doomposts? And talk about a mod purge.
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>>558665880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A
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>>558666394
Electro blueprints.
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I call this fun maze.
Enemies are tanky enough that you don't curbstomp everything, but you get enough tools to fight back and get strong.
And hey, you might actually get a 12 piece set or complete exodia like this.
Sure, you get less threads, but it's FUN.
I think about any character can do maze like this. I'm trying Berry now
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>>558668597
Thanks, had no idea.
>already have a billion of them
nice
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1.3 is the last straw for me
there are too many better things to do
if they release another dead patch I'm done
and I won't be checking about again
fix the weapons fix the wedge farm last chance last dance last laugh
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I dunno why I hang around. I'm pretty happy with snowbreak. I sort of wanted DNA to be snowbreak with more stuff to do and it's just not. And won't ever be. Hoping and wishing for a game to be something else is kinda stupid. I think 1.3 will be my last shot. There probably isn't anything they could do to sway me to stay but I guess I want to see one last update before I delete the game for good.
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Looking forward to Su Yi. Hoping she is a proper Titania expy.
Looking forward to Hilda and her mistress.
Looking forward to Katya and the lolipope.
I am hopemaxxing and sticking with the game till eos.
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>>558682481
Well 1.2 wasn't really an update and I want to give them CNY as an excuse this time even though that shit should have been handled before the holiday
So 1.3 is fair enough. They have the feedback, they've had time to work with the feedback. There are no more excuses. Either they care or they don't. If they don't why should I anymore?
Sure I'd like to see a good result, but considering the track record so far, it's incredibly unlikely.
Sure I'd like to just quit now, but then I'll have second thoughts about coming back later.
1.3
Either 1.3 saves the game as we close the Huaxu chapter, or nothing happens and it's clear the devs are just putting forth minimal effort to milk what they can before EoS
I believe that's more than fair. And I do feel somewhat stupid for not just leaving the behind at 1.1 but 1.3 is it. No more excuses.
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So far, I've seen shills compared this incident with what happened to other gachas, and the examples mentioned were Wuwa's game servers being DDoS'd in China, and 2 gacha websites being hacked, and so what happened to DNA is "just a nothingburger" and "le doomposting", but where's the similarity? None of them got their ingame server changed, rather, none of them had their actual game or servers being hacked, nor did the hacker dunk on devs and the players by saying the game might have a virus
The cope is really strong and irritatingly dumb
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>>558687013
Just your standard damage control. But endfield really did have a huge fuck up last month with paypal and that should have been a much larger drama than it was.
This issue nobody gives a fuck about. It didn't effect our gameplay at all. The devs are just gonna sweep it under the rug. The players who are still remaining are preparing to quit anyways. Rather the devs do something or not won't change that. The only way they save the game is with real changes and content.
If the changes do come and there is nothing to do, the game is still dead.
If new content comes and gameplay still sucks, *maybe* some stick around, but I certainly won't.
Doesn't matter how much content the game has if it's just loading screens.
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>>558687013
No one gives a shit about the hack, bro. Literally. It had zero affect on the game's activity.
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>>558688926
More hot demon ladies
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>>558688567
It's a complex issue. They have to make improvements to the game so it becomes something actually fun to play instead of being an AFK simulator, have to improve the monetization and then they have to market themselves.
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>>558688567
What would save the game for me is if they lean completely into coomer content. Make it a sexy anime grinder. There are literally NONE of these. And the reason why is china is scared of sex I guess.
It doesn't have to be just waifu bait, the dudes can be sexy too for the girl gamers. IDGAF about that. Just up the sex appeal to over 9000.
It's important they fix the loading screen repetition and gunplay of course. But if the game is sexy, with actual sex appeal, not safe horny. Then it's going to carve out a niche that no other company will touch.
It's easy to find other shooters, other anime games, china is making a dozen open world anime games this year. Each doing something different. Trying to fight that crowd is foolish.
So do something the others wouldn't dare to do and focus on sex appeal while being cool and fun. Some company will eventually and when that happens they will make billions from a sexually starved audience in this prude as fuck world.
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>>558687013
what I find funny is how people are just blindly trusting the chink company that nothing was breached and was just a CDN problem
Like bro, what do you think is more realistic
>autist hack incompetent chink company
>autist hack cloudflare server
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>>558691603
There's already precedent for this with Blue Archive. In their case, CDN settings got changed to somewhere else and that's it.
If there was access to the game server itself, the hacker could've done way more to prove it than just blocking a few people at the login screen.
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They specifically said "Recommend affected players". If someone wasn't affected, which appears to be a large majority of players, they weren't told to reinstall.
I already gave my thoughts here: >>558650767
Summary is: There's far less risk in telling a couple people to reinstall game than saying nothing needs to be done.
Pan doesn't have the resources to gamble on nothing slipping past their investigation, no matter how unlikely it is. Idk if that's their actual reasoning but that's how I see the recommendation.
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only tech illiterate retards would suggest reinstalling the game when only the CDN was hacked. But hey, people think only those who disabled the windows firewall were "hacked" so I can't be bothered to explain anymore how everyone is retarded
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Finally done with the Electro grind... well technically I still have yet to grind the range serpent but I'm gonna get tr65 first.
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I'm surprised people underestimate Rhythm's E ability especially in Chase. You can kill the Elites and the Arbiters with her E spam as long as your wedges are pretty much done. There were times that I had to go and kill the Arbiter myself using Rhythm cause my pub is incompetent and I just spam E and solo kill the guy.
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I was gonna say I really liked the story but I mean it wasn't THAT great, just a little better than your average gacha story.
The awesome went completely away after the theatre dude's story. All this china crap has been boring af and poorly voice acted compared to 1.0
The voice acting quality took a nosedive with 1.1
So I don't suppose I've had any fun recently just frustration. I kinda want to quit now that I think about it. But I'll try 1.3 first. If it's the same shit then yeah that's all folks. But if they actually do something cool again. I might have a bit of fun. I'm not gonna keep going if 1.3 isn't fun tho
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the absolute state https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1rfml0f/the_big_tr uffle_meating/
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>>558726331
or maybe it's multiple fucking people dumbass haha
I'm sure I'm not the only one meming about uninstalling this kusoge
it's not a great game jokes aside
so much hate in the thread too I miss the margie poster
some ai sloppa could brighten this place up
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>>558711994
luno sex
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>some ai sloppa could brighten this place up
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>>558726917
You're not thinking about the gacha though, if they cycle one female and one male every patch then you save pulls and roll on the waifus then have time to save for the next
If they only do waifus then you always have pressure to spend one after the other two waifus back to back with another two on the way
dudes give you downtime to save, and when you skip them it doesn't bother anyone except the virgins who are afraid of getting cucked by a fictional character
sure a waifu only game would be better but it's also harder to sell than just a generally sexy game like conan where both the men and women are attractive
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Read the thread, it's in reference to this >>558612842
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>>558728826
It'd be based enough to make me reinstall this hackable kusoge. I really want a milf Outsider and a qt3.14 slacker Randyne
But alas, devs are too pussy for that
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>Double jump
>Spin dashing
>Miniguns
>Slamming from high places throws you across the map
>Lightsaber skin
>Serafuku outfit
>Fina looks cute
Can't think of much else, only played it again recently but never made as much progress before. is this game really in a bad state or is it just shitposting?
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The doom posting seems very justified to me. Instead of giving us a tougher lv100 stage to farm new wedges they quadrupled the time it takes and made us go back to lv40 stages.
We're lv90 wearing +10 wedges farming a level 40 stage thousands of times for the next upgrade.
It's a meaningless waste of time. A loading screen simulator where you just click repeat until you ragequit for the day.
If I try to compare it to other games I'll just attract retards who say those games are shit. Well then what is DNA? Because I really don't believe this is fun gameplay. But hey I won't argue if you like it. If you like that sort of thing then the game is intended for you, and hopefully it doesn't EoS so you can enjoy it for years to come. But I imagine for the majority of gamers this is absolute dogshit and should have never been published.
Possibly the only reason it was is to try to recoup internal costs and milk a few whales with as little extra development cost as possible.
I could be wrong though, I guess we'll see with all the content 1.3 brings. It's a shame that's still five weeks away. But I guess we can enjoy our dragon mount until then while we grind more wings inspo.
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HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE LE HECKIN' INCOMPETENT INDIE CHINKERINOS???? ERMMMMMMM HELLO? MAYBE ERMMMMMMMM STOP PLAYING THE GAME IF YOU HATE IT? NOBODY CARES THAT YOU DISLIKE THE GAME!!1!!!! THE REASON DOESN'T MATTER! LALALALALA I DON'T WANT TO READ YOUR COMPLAINTS!!!!!!!!
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I'd say the game is fine if you play it very casually. (and your hardware can run it fine)
The main issues pop up when you want to do more than 1-2 hours of non-story content per week. Then you see that most of endgame is done solo and either afk, or active but quickly gets stale. The semi-afk numbers go up type of gameplay does attract a certain crowd of players but not enough to sustain a game like this in the long term.
Monetization is somewhat mixed, mainly falling short imo if you're in the $20+ spender range but not a whale. Standard myriad seemingly abandoned so there isn't even a lower price gacha skin option.
I've been playing continuously since launch and even I would say the game needs to spend some more time cooking. If someone wants to try it just for the story or casual gameplay, then it's okay. If the wedge farm isn't for them, then just stop there and come back later if you liked any other part of the game.
There are definitely shit/doomposters among the negative posts though. While some of them restate valid complaints, you can also tell these people aren't interested in actually discussing about the game, especially if they have a history to look up. At this point they're hoping for the game to announce EoS so they can feast.
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>>558732756
Locking wedge drops to one specific mission type of one specific level is probably THE most retarded design decision of the game. Yes, our game wasn't mind numbing enough so you HAVE to do the trivial level 40 missions to craft your endgame gear. No, we can't give you a higher level of that mission with better rewards so you can at least pretend there's some kind of progression happening. No we can't put them in an endless mission either. In fact, we will specifically out of fucking spite make endless missions force extract you if you're going for wedges. Fight the loading screen laowai
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Consider it from a doomposter's perspective. I've invested a few hundred hours and a few hundred bucks into the game expecting more for 1.1 or 1.2 and now 1.3
I didn't care for the game much at launch but /dna/ always said 1.1 will save the game, 1.2 will save the game, 1.3 will save the game
well it doesn't fucking look saved yet
the devs have constantly ignored feedback from surveys and have given zero livestreams or discussion since last year
The 1.2 update wasn't even a real update more like a hotfix patch. That leaves me personally wondering if they had even worked on it at all or have been jerking each other off waiting to release it since last year.
What work do we know they've done since the game has launched? 1.1 was already made they just waited to release it.
If everyone is complaining about the momentum, gunplay, coop, afk, and everything fucking else, then why hasn't a single one of these complaints been acknowledged with the devs at least saying "we're gonna fix that in 1.2 or 1.3 or 1.4"
Really makes you wonder
So yeah if this is a grift I'd like it to hurry up and end
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No they didn't thank fucking EVERYTHING.
Holy shit you scared me
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... Gatekeeping your secret spots? From your FELLOW ANONS???
... a damn shame, is what it is... unsocial behavior, downright uncouth.........is this spot superior enough to the lvl50 exploration ledge to warrant my searching for it
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>>558735792
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>>558736090
It was posted in the thread initially. And remember at least 1 youtuber gets info here.
So yeah
>is this spot superior enough to the lvl50 exploration
Pretty much so, i'd say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7GbAaGuL00
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Mixed
I usually run lv80 fina hole
You have to reset like 10 times to get the right map then zonebreak to get to the spot and if you don't do it exactly right you load the hallway and break the spawn
For all that effort you can get a 40-50min 100 wave clear on lv80
But fina's hole is only 60min so when you factor in all the extra effort to setup the run it sort of balances out
In regards to the sewer/waterfall lv50 spot I forgot how fast that is, but I think it's 40min as well? fewer rewards at lv50 so I just do lv80 fina hole
love ya margie show us some ass
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>>558736775
I got it first try now lmao.
If you knew both spots (1 for each starting tile) it speeds it up significantly. I'm in spot 2 right now, different from the video.
As for spawning the hallway and breaking it, there are some things you can(OR COULD I GUESS) do to prevent it. Practice is one, of course. When i started i failed the second spot like 20 times in a row, but the first spot is/was easy.
So honestly? I got consistent. I personally feel like it's easier/faster than the lv50 spot.
But the big BIG thing is that this works in both lv80 and covert.
Now that once i restart my game the entry will be patched, i'll probably go back to fina's hole and third brick.
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Man Huaxu fucking sucks. They really stripped away everything interesting about the game's setting and gave me possibly the most bland attempt at a "fantasy china" I've ever had to suffer through. Everything here is a downgrade except for the visuals. The characters are worse, the plot is worse, and the lore is worse. "Loongscions" existing robs the Charon racism subplot of all its tension and killed my investment in the story completely. When are we going back to Hyperborea so I can be impoverished again?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfzf48FK3pM
Hopefully more of something that looks like this because boy did they play it safe and boring with china
*temu bad apple starts playing*
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>>558761771
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>>558761771
Again... what the fuck? I think I've only ever gotten a crash once in the past and now I get two of them in one hour.
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1.2 update fucked up performance for a lot of people. I wasnt crashing before, now I am. And the FPS is worse.
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We're probably going back to Hyperborea for a bit first. Camilla is releasing next version. Hilda release is expected in the following version as the last remaining beta character.
Next new region is all speculation, my prediction is Elysian Church. The bard girl is the only character we know of that's from outside Hyperborea/Huaxu and has a complete model. The v1.2 update also indirectly revealed her name.
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Nobody is quitting since there:s little to no players in the first place.
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>>558766734
By killing off 99% of the playerbase we are selectively breeding the last few thousands into superresistant gigagoyim that are tolerant to absolutely anything!
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If Elsword can survive like this, so can DNA.
The crucial difference is that DNA still has a chance to turn things around.
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Well it makes sense. Only gigawhales are there. Reminds me of let it die.
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I thought people fail chase cause the fuck you blast from the church guy is too good?
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>>558764652
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>>558776576
>>That title
>>Not SS
I'm too good.
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>>558778392
You could just get a lower score on purpose though?
Which i very likely will next summit if the backgrounds are not the same
Between these posts my game had the same crash (i was alttabbing too much while afking with rhytmn) and now i don't have the oob exploit anymore
Insert crying luno sticker
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>>558781463
Desu I don't really care about her.
I'm not only having hag fatigue but I don't even like her design. She's just wearing a generic cocktail dress and she doesn't even show any skin. Not even some cleavage.
Sibylle is still the only hag in the game whose base design I like.
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>Zhiliu is saved by her skin
Her skin is objectively worse than her base skin though.
Hellfire mogs Sybille brutally.
They should add more characters like Lisbell and Truffle though, and should fix Tabethe to be more like her promo art.
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Only 20 forma each
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This though. You need those mats for fucking everything
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>>558801392
Yeah. Commissions.
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It's pretty clear that's what they're doing. Unless they know a male character will somehow be very popular, it's far better financially to have the gacha skin on a female char. I can't see even the best looking Kezhou or Yuming skin outselling a basic outfit for any of the other 4 characters in v1.1-1.3.
My expectation is that if a male ever gets a gacha skin, it'll either be in a standard banner or alongside a rerun of a previous limited banner.
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>>558772224
You had this "Combat Power" stat which was accumulated from your gear and everything else and if it didn't meet the minimum requirement for the stage you couldn't even enter it. And hitting the minimum requirement required considerable whaling.
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See in this case I'd understand that that content is simply not content. Like an expansion pass I haven't bought or will ever buy. The rest of the game is still available. If it's enjoyable play that, if there is nothing else to do then find something else to play. Hmm there isn't anything to do in DNA right now maybe I should find something else.
/dna/ has been moving slow for a while now all the AI anons quit. I have to go to other generals to look at bikinis.
Suppose March will be a dead month.
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A new standard banner skin (if they revive the system) would not be crammed into the same banner as the current Rebecca/Truffle one. If they feel it's worth making a male standard gacha skin at all, they might even put two in their own banner.
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>Suppose March will be a dead month.
For the most part yeah, only Yuming release in the 2nd week. Maybe the next Luno Bulletin drops in the first half of March, but I doubt it'll preview anything that sustains discussion for more than a week.
The last week and a half of March should be fairly active. Phoxhunter Summit discussion returns again and V1.3 update news likely getting released around that same time.
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Again... I might have to reinstall.
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>>558779381
I do 8 waves with Rhythm and Zhiliu/Fushu support but I set up a macro to activate Rhythm's skill every 1.5 seconds to maintain both the buff from it and the Ravaging stacks.
Takes me between 7 and 7 and a half minutes.
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I like how I'm getting called a Rhythmfag when it's just the most practical thing to play. That's how I did it on Warframe that's how I'm doing it here. I will play practical characters on modes that can clear them the easiest.
I don't even use Rhythm outside of dungeons and instances. I run with a totally different character in the overworld.
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>ooooh a temporary mode that lets me try something new?
>I know, I will AFK it with Rhythm like everything else
>n-no I'm not a soulless subhuman!!
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>>558836852
You don't get it, it's about being efficient and practical at the least challenging game known to man
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When are we gonna get a fat gross bitch frame like our sistergame?
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>>558838521
I'd like the tedious shit to be afk sure
For fun stuff like Chase or if they ever add anything worthwhile I'd like to go into that content with a max character that I did not burn out to farm
Why is it so hard to understand this?
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That's because midwits actually think making easy stuff complicated makes them smarter than everybody else. When you can maximize everything by keeping it simple, easy, and effective.
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NOOO YOU CAN'T CALL ME A SUBHUMAN I'M AN ENGINEER IM SOLVING PRACTICAL PROBLEMS IN DUET NIGHT ABYSS NOOO
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Both sides have a point.
If you cheese the casual event you're just cheating yourself out of possibly a good time.
It could be fun to just fuck around with.
On the other hand, if you don't fucking care about this kusoge and want REAL content, then minimal effort for minimal effort events (see wishen) is respectable
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I'm afking it.
>erm but liek you're like berrrooown!!!
I don't care what poorfags think.
t.day 1 macro TR 65 gawd
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Why are you guys arguing how to play the event?
It's like level 60 or something, who cares if you play X character or afk. The result will be pretty much the same.
Now if the event scales up as it goes, this looks pretty fun
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>>558853128
People just hate the notion of people finding easy ways to clear a really mid event without making it complicated. That and because they didn't think of that idea now they're mad somebody else did it before them. Basically childish shit.
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>players use AFK teams to clear content
>devs add auto continue
>devs add autochess
>macrofags run game 24/7, inflating players numbers
at this point devs should fully embrace AFK farming and give players more legit ingame tools to do so
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>>558857312
Covert Exploration or regular Exploration? Covert didn't really change still that pillar in the temple stage where you start near a cannon, Exploration level 20 but you need to start with the waterfall room to be able to spawn mobs in that one small corner that everybody recommends you go to.
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Those are meant to be its hair. It's obviously meant to be a sheboon.
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>>558871469
>I wonder if all these posts of "do something else, forced to play this shit game" are his.
Could be. That pig has (sadly) been around for a long time. I thought it fucked off because it's been quiet for the past month of two but I guess it came back or just got triggered but it's definitely the same creature because the writing style is the same.
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it's likely 25 new people picked up ok-dna kek
if you just use a homemade macro it's fine
emulators come with macro extensions built in
I have macroed overnight every day since launch and have never even got a warning.
But you know what? Even with all that I still haven't finished my farms, that's how tedious this fucking game is.
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Maybe the next hag release will kill him.
>>558873629
Sometimes the maze doesn't spawn the doors, forcing you to reload the stage.
>>558872691
Maybe they are banning the f2poors?
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Even with Fushu I end up dying.
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>>558887393
I mean, she is the same as always.
She's already done for today but she's expected to rise tomorrow morning to deliver light and disperse the night as she usually does.
Like, what's the point in asking? Eos is pretty consistent
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>>558905763
The only thing I need is red globules
I will not miss my chance next summit
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it's so damn funny seeing the strategy shills are using now to keep this thread from reaching page 10
just argue with everyone about anything
doesn't matter
ragebait them into a reply to keep the thread on /vg/ instead of it having to move to /vmg/ because there is nothing to discuss
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>>558908794
Sorry I can't be friends with retarded AFKniggers who are unable to understand the concept of playing a game for fun and can only think in terms of efficiency. If I wanted friends like that I'd go """play""" some idle mobileshit.
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There are several generals on the catalog right now whose threads are nearing 10 days or are way above it and your faggot as is here crying and moaning about a 3-day old thread.
Maybe you're projecting your own strategy because it's working. Kys.
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Anyone can do that
Can you +10 the wedgies?
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Yeah the effects make for more interesting setups than simply selecting the corresponding element geniemon. I'd like to see more stuff similar to using Pyrootail on Psyche for the skill duration.
Though they would still have to fix the Boxie problem, or make more content where Boxie's effects aren't needed.
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They can't powercreep the geniemons right now. They can't make the BPmons redundant and if they reworked them into being something like these wishen, there would be backlash about them paywalling them.
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It doesn't need to powercreep the BPmons. The main thing is having different types of effects, so that they interact with characters differently besides a basic general damage boost.
The melee one for example. The combo gain + charged atk bonus right now really only benefits Lisbell and maybe Fina/Outsider w/ katana. There's plenty of room to tweak the numbers so that for Lisbell, it's stronger than Balbee but still weaker than Luminelf. Or even if it's comparable to Luminelf for Lisbell, it'd be weaker for the other characters that don't use charged attacks.
The kill threshold thing might be tricky to implement outside the event. It could instead be changed to an always-active passive. Or the kill threshold could be part of the balance where those geniemons only works best when you can kill a lot of mobs.
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I don't think i've seen a single general without a ton of infighting honestly.
Even when there are friendly groups... specially when there are friendly groups
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Do you even get anything? Like, even a message "holy shit you maxed it"
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I just used the software that came with my gaming mouse. If you want the setup it's pic related. Or you can try these setups from reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1rhilvn/great_chao s_of_mechapuppets_most_optimal_setu p/
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>>558942942
Kek ok then.
Phantasio is really fun
Outsider is the usual edgy nigger invis character every game has. If you like that, i guess he's fun
Randy if you like sitting on a cuck chair (not really fun to PLAY)
Yale if you like shota or literal explosive diarrhea. He honestly seems pretty fun but i haven't messed around yet
Khezou i didn't even try or read his skills. He's the one i see most people trying and liking, since he has a mixed ranged/melee style.
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Ah i guess i forgot MaleMC.
Uhhhh it's a more support-focused style but i really like the passive.
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I am finally done with the tutorial.
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Anyone know what these last 2 lampwicks are?
I'm pretty sure they need a set feature or something to enter the reward pool, but i wanna be sure what the hell they do since that might give a tip
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I only found descriptions on a jp wiki, so have some mtl slop
https://dnabyss.wikiru.jp/?%E3%83%A9%E3%83%93%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82% B9
>Lush Growth
>The probability of evolving "Flower Seed" into "Flower Branch" has increased to 100%.
>Arclight Descent
>The activation time for "Radiation" has been reduced to 1.5 seconds.
*It will not appear unless you collect a certain number of "Fluorescent Stone" sets.
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lmao this geniemon event shows how fucked up geniemons are
THIS is what they should have been all along.
Only problem is that the cooldown is too low for something that doesn't make sense to have so low. Longer duration and cooldown would make them perfect.
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It's kind of fucked up how the devs keep adding improvements to the game but do it in ways that don't stick around.
>>558926176
>Though they would still have to fix the Boxie problem, or make more content where Boxie's effects aren't needed.
Boxie is the king of farming and drops
You need modes that have no drops on killing enemies AND it's meant to be some challenge.
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Well they could always do some free copy giveaway, sustain it with milk.
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>>558951273
You got the Chinese ver, the English calendar says March. Idk if Mars is associated with March in Chinese or if it's just gratuitous Engrish. I thought they simply call months by the number, third month in this case.
Also we need a Zhiliu calendar with her in various pin-up model poses.
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hehe it says dute night
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Will we ever see actual character balancing and reworks?
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If we don't see it by 1.3 we won't see it for a long time, if ever. That's because they simply won't have the time to meaningfully change the existing characters as long as they are in the gachadev mindset of having to constantly release new content on a tight schedule. And 1.3 is the cutoff point because that's when they run out of already-made characters to release. Everything they released so far has already been in the beta but 1.3 onwards it's all new content. Well, except for Hilda.
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>>558974645
Okay.
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>>558981185
No. Get back into the post mines. At least 1 post every 30 minutes or you're not getting lunosex.
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>>558981362
That's better.
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>>558981708
I have killed her countless times before she even says a word. Never gets old.
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We will probably have access to her secret shop one day.
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>>558987536
Even if they are.
Better 20min of fun than 5min of boredom.
Also, i just ran another tabethe one and i almost 1 cycled crystalo. Which yes, is trivial to Nifle, but you can basically become a mini-nuke with stacked lumitwigs since you spawn so many at once
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>>558988374
>plenty of other good options for Maze
This is one of the things i'm exploring, yeah.
Lumitwig tabby is probably more viable than a some dps characters even. She gets very consistent when you spawn 50 fucking summons with 1 button press
Now hellfire and sybille, for example, i dunno how to make them work vs bosses. Probably would have to lean hard on Sacred Favour/Momiji
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I meant more like characters like Psyche, Lynn, Zhiliu and Rhythm, although Rhythm and Lynn can kinda struggle on terrible runs and Zhiliu is kinda slow at i2 but I imagine she's gonna become better at i6.
I don't think there's really any way to make characters that aren't already good work well in Maze. Even Lisbell struggles in there and she's not a bad character, she just relies too heavily on her ranged weapon for single-target DPS. I'm s5-ing Momiji now and I do wanna try Katanabell in there with Ephemeral Lumina.
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>>558995006
Usually they are useful to have like 1-3 to support some of the other better sets, since you start getting free summons or improving yours (stance down on summoning can be great)
But yeah, it's one of the more meh sets if you're not playing hydro characters
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Needs a 6 set to appear, probably
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>>558983712
They can barely make a functioning game on PC and mobile. Do you really think they can magically make DNA better if they shift entirely to PC development? Standards are much higher too
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>>559000905
>Do you really think they can magically make DNA better if they shift entirely to PC development?
Nta but yes? Obviously yes they can. Almost everything wrong with DNA is a result of the devs trying to make it accessible to mobileshitters.
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>>559001125
The mobile game design is too embedded into this game's DNA. Hell, it's actually worse than in every other major 3D gacha game with a PC port.
It would take at least a year minimum to fully rework everything in the game to bring it up to PC gaming standards
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>>559001580
>The mobile game design is too embedded into this game's DNA
You're retarded.
>It would take at least a year minimum to fully rework everything in the game to bring it up to PC gaming standards
They can easily do this in half a year tops. You are retarded. Probably a mobileshitter falseflagging.
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>>559001768
All the character progression systems sans Demon Wedges are mobile game slop.
Every mission needs to be made longer. No PC game has 30-60 second missions, not even PSO2's lobby simulator gameplay.
Every character would need more than two buttons.
Gotta change the controls and animations to account for hipfire and headshots.
Much more work than 6 months while also delivering on the regular updates.
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>>558994523
Im missing last gold limpdick in most types. It just doesnt show up
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>6 set
will have to try more focused approach
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>>559002139
>All the character progression systems sans Demon Wedges are mobile game slop.
retard
>Every mission needs to be made longer.
Yea and this doesn't require much time.
>Every character would need more than two buttons.
A welcome change in the long term but absolutely not a necessity.
>Gotta change the controls and animations to account for hipfire and headshots.
Don't have to change anything about the controls and animations.
In short, you are a retard.
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>YOU SHOULDN'T CHEESE THE EVENT
>Game: Use Nifle and Fushu lmao
It probably will recommend Rhytmn in one of the following missions.
Honestly, it's as i said, use whatever you want until we get to decent levels. Who cares about enemies level <80.
They aren't even giving us Stage Effects yet. Tomorrow will be the first, which will be Anemowank lmao.
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I need a way to AFK farm money. I farmed so much Maze and the little kike already ate up with smelting most of what I farmed.
I don't care if it's slow and inefficient, I need a way to passively generate money. I can't keep grinding Maze.
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afk exploration?
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lesgoooooooooooooo act 12
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>>559027962
See >>558982715
Game's too low to make it on the chart
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>>559031175
It's like you've never been to highschool or work with black people and just have them hanging out in classrooms or break rooms just talking. Why does it feel you don't even live in a country with blacks. Are you from SEA or something and the only knowledge you know about black people are from the TV and Movies?
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NTA but I tested submerged serenade and got the same results. No increase to number of hits nor damage increase. So it seems to be bugged in general for this type of gun.
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>>558598096
Reminder to do your weeklies, if you haven't yet.
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>>559054632
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>>559054632
these are free right?
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>>559054632
This game is speed running fucking NGS with nothing but cosmetic updates and no content.
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>.99 cents
>free
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>>559056017
Feels good
>>559057871
Qipaos are hot as balls but they were censored so that's hard to call lewd.
Bikini shows a lot of skin but thats just normal.
I'll have to vote for Rebecca's, since it shows more skin than normal, gives her nice panties and when she bends over it gives us full view of her cleavage.
Chrismas skin is pretty lewd i guess, with the open back and being very short.
But i personally find it a bit too basic
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>>559058185
Only got these 2 left now, but i have no fucking idea how to go about it.
Anyone knows if they are even in the game? Like, if they can be found, not if they are in the code.
Farming these sounds like hell too.
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Since it affect the Emission effect it most likely needs a 9 set, but yes it needs either 6 or 9 pieces collected.
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>>559057871
Christmas skin can't be beaten man, just can't
Rebecca's skin comes in 2nd place though. She's the only one that wears a panty in the entire game, only in that skin though
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>>559059729
Here's Rebecca's pantyshot
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>>559058412
I would buy Truffle's IMMEDIATELY. It could even be 500 fucking prisms, i wouldn't think twice
>>559059729
Eh idk man. Crimbas looks like they are just going to be like "uwu take me im your present" while rebecca looks like she's gonna squeeze you a years worth of yumyum
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>>559058412
The standard banner is pretty scuffed in general, hopefully it comes with changes to the system if they ever run another one. Gold drops should be removed from the pool once acquired and/or sell the skins directly for large amounts of prisms.
Standard banner should've been the middleground between universal skin and limited myriad. No fancy effects, just a char + weap skin for a lower price per roll. Doesn't need to shill the latest char so it's an opportunity for the other half of the roster to get a unique skin.
They're willing to make an event to buy some cosmetics with phoxene in order to give it some value. Meanwhile the regular hourglasses have been in the phoxene shop since launch but they won't give it some value through new standard banners.
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>>559070356
I have hit TR65 but I haven't Smelt 5 or +10 every single Wedges yet. That's what I personally have to do in this game still. I'm ready for the summit in March though, just need to focus every weekly on getting Zhiliu letters when she moves there.
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>>559075256
At the end of the v1.1 stream, the director did specifically give a little talk about how proper fixes will take time to develop and implement. Sure it could just be a generic PR message, but it sounds like they're trying to cook up a rework of some sort if he really means it.
A lot of the commonly suggested quick fixes are really just bandages that potentially cause issues later on. I've seen suggestions to "fix" demon wedges by essentially massively increasing drop rate / reducing costs. Or for character/weapon balance, there might be certain future interactions that become way too strong if they juiced up numbers willy-nilly. One example being Sibylle's Orb + Fafnir's Flux.
Of course, if they're doing this approach then they better pray it works out. If the rework flops, then they opted not to make any minor tweaks for nothing.
v1.3 will be when the first non-beta characters release. v1.4 will probably be when the story goes back to the "original" plan, assuming that's when Hilda and Flora show up. I guess we'll see if they got any post-launch work to show for these versions.
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>we will create character wedges that address weaker characters
What I don't get is how the fuck do you make a Wedge that fixes Truffle, Margie, Sybille and so on?
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Truffle and Sybille already "got" wedges for their status. It's all about the numbers. Truffle has a bad AI too and got powercrept by the buffs amounts anyway. And Sybille just got outshined since she can't fit in the best electro team.
Only margie has hopes of making it. As far as "fixing" goes, if you ain't got a consonance weapon, you are fucked.
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Nothing stopping them from creating wedges that alter skills, like how weapon wedges alter charged attacks.
>truffle
Ultimate, give Filbert wings, increase its movement speed +200 and drop mini-pig mobs with the skill like a bomber plane.
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I let my explo at max level run with rhythm/fushu/zhiliu and just the ascension materials sell for 500 each.
Selling just the ascension materials plus the 250k ish raw coins nets you over half a million in ~80 minutes.
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>>559110629
This is what I'm using with Lisbell right now. I don't know how optimal it is but I don't want to farm a 3rd +10 copy of either of the wedges until Lumino gets its Wingspo and Serpent wedges.
As for Samael, I do the same.
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It should be mostly the same. I think the only change would be switching impetus for gold trammel * impetus. Lisbell gets an extra combo point on trigger and isn't capped yet. So +trigger should make up for the slight atk loss compared to gold impetus.
Other than that, upgrading focus and rage to gold is still the way as far as I know.
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I see, I see. I shall put this information to good use.
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https://arca.live/b/dnabyss/163697641
Sibylle seems to be inching her way towards viability with the new Flux wedge.
Level capped theater cleared with just Sibylle and Fina+Truffle. They have full +10s but cleared it fast enough that I think it's doable with +8s.
They also cleared using Outsider solely from the orb transfer damage. Another example to add onto this video ( >>558143964)
This shift happened despite nothing changing about Sibylle herself. He doesn't even build skill int on her and barely used her E.
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>>559117379
Interestingly enough, I recall seeing anons talking about Sibylle CBT being her optimal playstyle all the way back in early November; the main issue was her stats holding her back in terms of damage, but the raw concept was there from day one.man i hope there's actually a point in DNA's life where she's usable without feeling like you're savagely gimping yourself by picking her
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now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves