Vermintide 3 when

>>558328914
Problem is there ain't no way Fartshart is about to make AI for a Psyker using Brain Burst, Shriek, and Empowered Psionics OR A Psyker with Assail... You see where this is going? Not to mention the different weapons. Oh man I'm so psyched to see my Voidblast Psyker only use melee and never pop a bubble where it is useful or, worse, in predetermined spots.

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

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True Grit?
More like True Shit!

>>558329145
They could totally make this work, it's not THAT complicated. But you're 100% right it will never happen due to it having no financial benefit to Fatshark.

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>>558329145
What pisses me off is that I know I could code 70% of psyker AI, by myself, in one evening. The remaining 30% are inconvenient amounts of play testing and stress testing to iron out some bugs, because programming AI can be a little tricky at times. Getting the actual decision making brain programmed is probably the easy part, assuming you know how to play the fucking game, and can teach the bot to estimate damage effectiveness by running cheap damage calcs.
And that's without official dev tools.
Unfortunately fagshart are too fucking incompetent to even play their own game, so this is basically impossible for them to manage.

>>558328914
>Pubshitters are too slow for me and I get bored having to wait for them, or revive them a dozen times.
With 90% certainty, I guess you play on PC, just download the true solo mod. There done.
Any person who really REALLY WANTS TO play solomode is already doing it this way.
>but muh consoles
You should never cater to them because they make every game fucking worse.
Even Darktide was hit by it, they are the reason why hordes got so abysmally small as they are now, which has then caused the devs to try "balancing" the game by just spamming elites. (due to bigger stats they don't need to spawn as many elites comparitive to hordes)
A thing that has made the game and its balance infinetly worse with no end in sight.

>>558329709
Okay but what if I don't want to literally solo?

>>558329709
i remember the endless hordes on release
it was fun

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i know you're in here, whore

i actually got to play mortis trials with 3 others, 3 times in a row tonight. completely swag and based.

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>>558329146
>>558329398
DIE YOU FUCKING RATS!

NOBODY LIKES YOU!

NOBODY LOVES YOU!

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!

why are they afraid of a proper sniper weapon, the hellbore requires so much work to be able to keep up compared to a recon or plasma

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>playing shotty arbites
>running low on ammo and finding only empty chests
>weird because everyone is also low on ammo, except scum
>that cant be right, scum is havoc 40 so he should know what pickpocket does, maybe he doesnt have it?
>inspect build mid match, he has pickpocket
>ask him to stop picking up ammo because he doesnt need to
>he completely ignores me and still roomba sucks all the ammo that he sees
romanian maybe?

>>558334239
he p^robably copypasted a build without reading

>>558334228
Total Melee Supremacy

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>>558334123
Dead Shot?
More like Dead Shit!

>>558334123
He TANKED that

>>558334228
They just think snipers largely don't fit for the game. Which isn't entirely wrong.
Even as a playstyle sniping just kinda sucks because there's always some pox walkers smacking you in the ass, also never forget that Darktide unironically SPAWNS enemies right behind you sometimes. And that is by design.

Another thing is that this game used to have a weapon customization/attachment to weapons. Evidenced by the weapon customization mod, which is more or less made from the left over "parts" within the code. AND you can add functional scopes and other sights onto guns with that mod.
However, many people who have used the mod, they often report that scopes just don't work well for gameplay because of the tunnel vision, which is bad because the amount of enemies the game throws at you is too much and you realistically you cannot relay on other players to keep yourself safe. Another problem 90% of the maps are very condensed and have very little large open areas, which makes scopes either over kill or just necessary at all and you're just fine with a holo-sight or even irons.
But it was entirely scrapped because either Fatshark itself or Tencent decided to be more jewish and ditched the system so they can sell you more cosmetics.

Also also, as a weapon type snipers aren't great darktide because the amount of mele enemies and other specials the game throws at you, having a gun which equips and holsters slowly very detrimental for you, especially if you need to be killing trapper that's running at you while you are meleeing a horde or some elites. You need it dead NOW, and not 3 business days later.

>>558334228
Because the instant you ADS for more than .2 seconds a crusher conga line spawns behind you

I just witnessed someone quit because they got netted in the first area of the mission. His body didn't even hit the ground before he was gone. Nigga spent more time loading into the mission than he spent in the mission.

>>558326523
>having trouble with quarter pounds
*farts in your direction* uhhhhhhhhh lemme just burst them down as sharpshooter or gunslinger, throw a dynamite and spam a few shots from the grenade pistol as demo, blow their heads smooth off as support, stun and use my bullet hose as swat, and/or face tank them as berserker with help from the medic
if you're having trouble on wave 2 of HoE with high leveled perks there's something wrong with you

>>558334228
>>558335404
lol you're overthinking too much
The helbore is supposed to use the bayonet to kill enemies that get into melee with you. The reason this doesn't work is because you're playing too high of a difficulty, sweaty. The game is balanced around malice, after all!

>>558336773
why they gimped the heavy mark then

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what is this from?

>>558337593
previous event. Relics were spread across the mission area, and pressing E on it would spawn enemies and a boss.

>>558337578
Speak proper English, retard.

>>558339091
fix it then

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Nyoohohohoohoho
nyehehehyhehyheyhyeheee!!!
....geimu...

crazy how dorktide has 6k players worldwide on at any given time, but i can get a quickplay auric instantly in oceania at 1:30am

>>558339317
>why they gimped the heavy mark then
Why DID they gimp the heavy mark, then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_verb

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>>558327498
>>558327874
>>558328914
3+ years and this is the first time they've responded to anything about solomode since last time.
And unsurprisingly people aren't happy. Kek

That gamemode is 100% dead and never happening.
Fatshark could 100% say upfront that they are never adding it and these people would never be happy.

>>558336187
Issue isn't two of them but when the game decides to spawn multiple sets of them immediately enraged so that you can't do any actual damage to them while they're rushing you down.

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>>558339724

>>558343647
Good thing you're playing with teammates then to help you burst them down.
Right...?
>the firebug that doesn't make ground fires
>the sharpshooter that can't aim and doesn't know what the grenade button is
>the commando that only shoots stalkers and is too afraid to take on medium and large zeds
>the berserker that doesn't know how to perfect block
>the medic that doesn't run any buff related skills
>the survivalist
>the gunslinger that doesn't know how to reload cancel
>the swat that also doesn't know what the grenade button is
>the support that... uhh, well it's kind of hard to play support wrong to be honest unless you deliberately miss your shots
Bad teammates aside, if you're at the point in the match where it's spawning so many quarterpounds at once, you probably have one or two solutions readily available to instantly stun and/or kill a majority of them.

>>558340381
I'm not defending them btu it's pretty clear they won't come out and say
>no it's not coming
because that would amount to getting extreme negative PR. Why would they do it? So instead they just say
>yeah we know you want this
And you can connect the dots on the rest yourself. It's 1+1. They know people want it + there's no announcement or confirmation that it will come = no plans to implement it

>>558334123
This should happen to all rat posters
>>558339724
Looks like a penis

Why are havoc maps even in rotation? Why not just have all of them available

>>558339846
Turns out people will play fun games if they really like them. I also get near instant games at any time. Cool stuff.

>>558327498
You're a retarded fucking subhuman and you need to get kill yourself immediately.
No, I will not elaborate. Please kill yourself.

>>558327149
>Helldivers 2 is really rough to get into, 20 DLC's (warbonds) that cost a combined total of $210 and a horrific amount of grinding to actually use the stuff you paid for. It's not awful on PC since there's a CE table that lets you spawn premium currency so you can unlock the warbonds for free and Medals so that you can progress through the warbonds to unlock the gear in them. You're looking at about 700-800 hours of gameplay to unlock everything inside the warbonds if you don't cheat.
That sounds extremely Jewish and just about kills any interest I had of playing it I can’t lie.

>>558355771
Thirdies will tell you it's ok and doesn't bother them because they grind out 50 bucks value within 20 hours of sweaty grinding and think they're getting great value

Is fatshark going to announce anything soon or...

>>558355771
As it should. I like hd2 but the practice of forcing people to buy an additional $60 of DLC just for weapons that should have come with the extremely bare base content after buying a full priced game is incredibly jewish and gay.
People saying that you can get SC just by 'playing the game' makes me roll my eyes, because as someone who actually plays the game. I know full damn well that actually playing the game on the fun difficulties like helldive means you're never going to get credits, they spawn significantly more rarely, or in practice you're just never going to have the chance to grab them meaning if you want to 'farm' super credits, you have to do an incredibly mundane workaround of walking around an empty map at the easiest difficulties, installing an immersion breaking texture hack to see skybox spawns and repeat this process for hours just to be able to afford one warbond.
Or just hack in some spawns, even then the vast majority of people won't know how to do this so I cant even encourage people to pick up the game.

>>558356559
2 more weeks

inb4 cope but the grind really wouldn't be bad if it wasn't chance AND extraction based
like >>558356801 said you get punished for playing higher difficulties because you'll rarely get the opportunity to extract with samples and find super credits due to all the chaos going on

>>558348825
>because that would amount to getting extreme negative PR.
It really wouldn't.
Like practically speaking 90% of the playerbase genuinely do not give a fuck about solomode or it ever being added.
Only people who keep whinging about it are these few fags on the official forums, it's like 3 people on the forums. And they make a post about it like every week and they've been whinging for solomode for like 3+ years.

>>558354362
If you want solomode so desperately, just go jack off, it's solo enough for you.

>>558359478
Why make the 10% sperg out and reviewbomb if you can just keep silent though and let everyone smart read between the lines?

>>558359918
It's not 10%, it's closer to 1%, and the rest 9% are ambivelent about the issue at best.
1% of the playerbase having a spergout moment over an actual nothingburger would just make them all look like loonies for the rest of the playerbase.

Even last time the studio said this for verbatim:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/a-new-case-for-sp/84329/10
>"Right now solo play is not a priority as Darktide is a co-op game first and foremost - however we might return to it, so i’ll be sure to forward on your sentiments!"
>we MIGHT return to it
This is literally just corpo speak for "we are never doing it"

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>>558359615
Your mother, father, pet, and siblings will die in their sleep tonight, no immunities.
Join them and kill yourself asap.

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>join quickplay lobby
>extremely high true level ogryn
>immediately rping

>>558360609
Nah

>>558360609
Based on your butthurt I can tell you're Ralendill.

>>558362573
the left can't meme

>>558360609
6 7 6 7 hahaha six seeeveeeeen

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>vet missed 4 krak nades against a chaos spawn

>>558365184
Vote kick status?

>>558365228
it was at the end arena
good thing we won cuz i don't know what felony i would commit

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>>558360609
>no immunities.
Okay. Have this one instead.

>>558360609
Sorry Anon, but I have a Special Immunity that works even against No Immunities of any form.

Skibidi

>>558362573
reddit

six seveeeeeeen!

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Where announcement? Mr. E .... Mr. E where are the announcements??

So what is the logic behind putting up the construction on the mourningstar and not telling the playerbase anything? The construction is neat, but the silence is weird

>>558385978
Speculation promotes the game through social media, leaving the playerbase in the dark lowers expectations of a deadline, etc.

>>558386257
Makes sense from that perspective. Thanks for the breakdown

>>558385978
Fatshark learned long ago they can't actually keep a schedule, so they only announce things a week or two before release once it's (mostly) ready. Rather than face the backlash for being late.

>>558386257
This. It's second only to enragement engagement in terms of algorithm manipulation.

Did they make maelstroms more difficult recently
>inb4 git gud

ya''ll're stupid

>>558360385
>1% of the playerbase having a spergout moment over an actual nothingburger would just make them all look like loonies for the rest of the playerbase.
This is is already steam review bomb territory which they've been shown to avoid now

YOUR! FUCKING!! MOTHER!!! I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS! GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING ADRESS WE'RE GONNA END THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

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any rat news´ yet ?

>>558389779
Shouldn't you be asleep?

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>>558392702
sorry 。。。

>>558385898
This anime looks fun thanks :)

>>558351562
yeah but a worldwide playerbase thats half the size of 1 concert crowd is insane.

>>558395856
Content drought, the player count jumped when scum came out, then fell again. You can't really expect people to play it for the long haul in the tens or hundreds of thousands. It's not like Counter Strike where it has an economy external to the game.

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>This is Commissar Dukane. We have a rogue train inbound. Alert all stations.

>>558402669
No... The battery objective...

>>558402669
Darktide anime when

>>558404173
when darktide isn't a kusoge

>>558402669
It's kind of odd we got the train mission as a special mission type, but then they just did nothing with that until the trench map.

>>558405137
and the trench map isn't even actually special in any way, it's just a regular mission at half length

>>558405251
Soulless animal

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>>558405251
The Leman Russ does nothing since we could easily open those walls ourselves and it doesn't actually help us against the enemies
Doesn't even look that cool anyway

>>558406573
I didn't say it's bad nigger I just said it's not actually anything unique mechanically so it's weird to lump it in with the very unique train mission

>>558407301
Fuck you

>>558404173
Imagine
>Mahou Shojo with Sisters of Battle
>Ultraviolence Space Marines
>War series with IG
>Mecha with Imperial Knights
>SoL with guardsman

>>558408439
always impressive when tourists think they have to act like this to fit in

>>558409925
I have been posting here for 16 years

>>558410013
no you haven't, darktide didn't even exist then, let alone this thread

>>558410631
This website

>>558410631
Kek

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>saw this guy had 0 dodges
>never check peoples builds but fuck it lets see what hes up to
>every node down to castigators is taken, no keystone

>>558410672
what about it?

>>558410776
not his fault fatshark has taken over 3 years to up the level cap

love how i can hop on high latency servers with arbitrator and it doesn't even matter because my dog has my back

>>558410776
BASED BASED BASED

>>558410808
About what?

>>558410882
The things we could do with 5 more talent points.

For darktide do you think we'll get a twitch zealot outfit? It's the only original class without one. I find them hilarious

is there even any downside to using stim supply while the cartel special is on cooldown?

>>558414549
nope

>>558414691
holy crap lois

>>558387406
Funnily enough they still delayed the scum class

>>558414549
Pretty sure it doesn't share the stim effect

why is it that these swedish muhfuckas are the only ones making left 4 dead-likes?

>>558416567
Takes a special kind of autism

>>558410882
>>558412080
It would cause more power creep on part of the players but raising the level cap to like 35 would be cool.
But instead of just regular leveling you get those by doing stuff like getting havoc 40 on your own assignment which gives 1 point. Maybe you get another for getting a certain achievement/penance completed.

whats the fuckin point in having a talent tree if you don't have to pick and choose between things? as it stands, we already have far too much of a gulf between must-picks, and never-picks.

Co-op sexy anime girl game when?
I want Killing Floor with Snowbreak graphics.

here's what you do.
>add a new stimm lab style separate tree for every character
>the new nodes are only active in the chaos wastes mode
>the chaos wastes mode has strong aeldari enemies

you're welcome for saving the game. also, we are removing the first two difficulty levels because they're worthless, alongside mortis trials. and havocs are going on the regular board.

>>558420806
Level 1s cannot do Heresy. Uprising and Malice exist for leveling characters, so they can't be removed.

>>558420806
Zzzzz... snrrrtt WHAT wait what did you say? Sorry I fell asleep reading your idea

>>558420686
Now there’s an idea….

>>558422665
remove levelling, its boring. you start at 30.

>>558424243
monkey paw curls and you get people first timing on H40

>>558424293
oh no, that would make havoc awful!

oh wait...

that feeling when you don't want to get up to pee and poo while you're playing a relevant co operative game

how many must a man come across before he's finally blocked all console players

Which recon is the best one? Thoughts on infernus? How fire dot works compared to the rest

>>558424504
Not relatable

>>558426856
if you don't play the games then you shouldn't be in this general

>it's another episode when I need to rez people, take care of elites and specials at the same time

>>558405251
except it's the only map that happens outside the hive which literally and objectively makes it special

>>558426754
the best one is your favorite
infernus is good
fire dot works

>>558429763
tried the slow firing one because it had the most dmg, kept reloading every three seconds even with shock tropper because the bitch uses two ammo per shot

>>558429893
i think it has better cleave than the other ones. It goes through 1 head and hits the one behind. But generally speaking most people take the fastest firing one (best brrrrrt and faster infernus stacks), or the middle child (best ammo economy, if i recall correctly)

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Posting my perma bolter vet.

>>558430385
I presume I need to take tag for infernus? Or I give up on a purple keystone to get onslaught

>>558430468
onslaught is too far away. Save the talent points. Just use your krak grenades for crushers. Make sure to get shock trooper. Bottom left cluster somewhere.

>>558430762
I know where they are, I usually pick reciprocity.I feel like taking marksman stance is a counterproductive with infernus

>Auric Maelstrom
>Enclavum Baross
>Dog Spam
>Be Bolter Vet with shout
>Dreading the mission prepared already for loss
>Psyker joins
>Psyker joins
>Both have bubble
>one has voidstrike one has flamer staff
>Zealot joins and he has flamethrower AND uses it.

I took out all the armour and specials, even so more than half my krak's were wasted due to carapace dying so fast I stopped throwing them and just kept sniping with the bolter. Felt like a heresy run.

>>558431529
Step it up to havoc then.

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>63 damage taken as scum in auric maelstorm
pretty cool, if it wasnt for a silent dog getting me it would've been 0 damage taken the entire run, shucks

>>558438710
Melee or ranged

>join failing mission and try to help out
>its a no hoper
>ending screen shows all 3 are console players

a tale as old as time

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>globies

dead gen

>>558451060
ded games
ded genre
ded general

If ogryn was released as a DLC class he would actually be good and not gimped like he is now.

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>>558455238
Picrel fixes all classes

>>558455482
meanwhile the ammo aura is gutted even on havoc

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Picrel fixes all classes

>>558456270
edgy

>>558455238
>DLC class that isnt just a reskinend veteran with better talents
unlikely however

>>558457903
>shit vet players unironically think this about both DLC classes
Nice job outing yourself.

It'll be a class geared toward globies.

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>>558336187
HEEEELL yeah brother.

Any advice on how to farm Dream Team fast?
>Just play the game
I am intending to uninstall and be free of this game when I get it.

>>558443601
This but epic cucks
>>558458109
Trve

>>558465025
If you're uninstalling then why care?

>>558466201
Do you care about my reasoning?

>>558465025
The best way to farm it was when Havoc was new and you could easily speed run carry some babies through 1-15 or whatever the cutoff was that makes it annoying to solo carry.
Nowadays just spam Rolling Steel and pray your shitters survive.

>>558465025
Literally just play the game but do it tryhardly. Run Voice of Command or Relic. Keep in mind it will make you miserable because no matter how much piss toughness you're providing someone will go down anyway form time to time. You will feel like your time is wasted and it won't be fun. But it's your life. Good luck.

>>558467262
>no matter how much piss toughness you're providing someone will go down anyway
Psykers blowing themselves up for no fucking reason, often out of combat, is rage inducing

>>558467151
I have been spamming Uprising Rolling Steel but I very rarely see an actual player in these missions on that difficulty. I have a maybe 50/50 chance of getting a Dream Team hit from it because the bots will often do something frustratingly incompetent to go down. Top culprits include...
>trying to do the jump between the train car ceilings during the battery objective, failing, and going down somehow from the fall damage
>eat an overhead from the final boss
>refusing to leave the medicae traincar but getting netted before I can get them to teleport
>getting knocked off the train by the boss's shield breaking

>>558470612
You're just doing it wrong, anon.
You want to aim for a 5~6 minute run, and speed run all sections EXCEPT specifically the long run after the first hack, leading to the second one. The bots can and will very often fall to their death in that section, so walk slowly to allow them to keep up.
The boss shouldn't even be allowed to attack if you build correctly. Bring a shock maul with Skullcrusher and just cave his face in. Chain weapons also work for annihilating the shield.
I can pretty consistently get runs with no downs or deaths with uprising bots.

>>558470914
>You're doing it wrong, anon.
>describes exactly what I'm doing every time

>>558471340
Works on my machine.
When I still bothered with Melk assignments, I intentionally kept the 5 deathless runs, and usually got it in around 7 attempts of running Uprising Rolling Steel. The bots very rarely went down even when I was paying absolutely zero attention. With a bit of baby sitting, even (You) can keep them alive. With gold toughness, it'll be free.

>>558469857
only if you care about the penance :)
once you free your mind it becomes a comical sound effect

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>grinding rolling steel
Way to suck the joy out of a video game. You guys have brain damage

>>558465025
I did the remaining 20 I had after getting every other benance by spamming auric rolling steel and carrying with inferno psyker.

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>>558469857
I sometimes find it funny

>>558457903
Ogryn as a class can't just be a reskinned veteran because of his unique weapons and even size and stats.

>>558484318
Precisely, so it never would've happened

Havoc as arbites is crazy. I usually play ogryn but this class truly has to give 0 fucks about anything. The only time I went down in like 10 H40s was once when 8 purple ragers synced a quick hit on me

>>558484443
Then arbites and hive scum would've never happened either.

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>standing on somewhat high ground
>waiting for crusher to climb up
>does an overhead attack instead

>>558460935
Ah, a fellow KF2 connoisseur I presume?

>>558485406
Is this where we pretend that hive scum, the class who has "exec stance but better" and "scriers gaze but better" and "medkit but better" is somehow a beacon of originality and unique implementation?
Or do you mean his grenades that are just stun grenade but better, ogryn nuke/krak (this combo alone should make u think) but better and flame grenade but better?
Perhaps you mean his auras that are just survivalist but better and two copypastes of existing auras?

Or maybe you mean his "unique weaponry" which peaks at combat blade but better because you get two and the zealot knife built in? Or maybe his ranged weaponry that peaks at flamer with infinite ammo that can also kill crushers in 3 shots? Or do you mean autopistol but you get two and they inexplicably have higher damage per hit than the regular autopistol but otherwise it's the same shit?

Is this really the class you want to argue is unique and handcrafted gameplay wise

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a soulful implementation of hive scum could've been
>let hivescum select a bodytype at character creation, based on pic related, maybe tie it to the gang
>roided hivescummer gets less movespeed and dodges, but more HP+DR and melee damage+stagger
>scuffed ratlike hivescummer gets movespeed, more dodges and more dodge distance
>normal human hivescummer gets bigger magazines and more toughness
or something to that effect. Could maybe even tie some weps to it. Surgeon exists so it would be fine.That would have however required effort becuase then you can't just slap the same one-size-fits-all cosmetic parts you already commissioned from china, and you would've probably had to come up with new animations.

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>>558489683
yet another alternate but still bad idea.

>>558496902
you literally cannot explain why it's bad, you just wanted to make a condescending post

Shiiiieeeettttt

>>558470612
I had better results on Malice, you're less likely to have to deal with bots

Fatty Shark, doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo
Fatty Shark, doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo
Fatty Shark, doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo
Fatty Shark

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rat news`?

>>558514741
weapon pack delayed to 2027

I am SO very good.

>>558516115
Hmmm the scoreboard says no

>>558515982
And that’s a good thing!

>>558485457
>standing on somewhat high ground
>team drop down the ledge
>I stay and snipe a little (it’s fun shut up)
>hear trapper spawn out of my ass cheeks directly behind me

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Shop news?

>>558518941
Arbites and Hive Scum cosmetics confirmed!
To never happen

Hello. I'm playing Space Marine 2 and I'm a loathsome secondary. What is the most kino heraldry for me to apply to my astartes? I always thought Khorne was cool but it seems like you can only get the colors and emblems for World Eaters and not the actual armor customizations.

Trying to play Killing Floor 1 but it doesn't support borderless windowed mode.
Going fullscreen fucks up the brightness/gamma/contrast and no slider changes in the client seem to fix it. It's basically washed out and improperly bright/dark. Hitting alt+enter to go into Window mode makes it look proper. Going back into fullscreen fucks it up. My screen isn't HDR shit, and anything HDR is disabled. This game is older than HDR shit anyway.

Is there a way to use fullscreen but not use whatever retarded rendering bullshit it's doing that ruins the visuals?

Streams or screenshots of it are unaffected.
I have my monitor dynamic range set from "Limited" to "Full" in NVIDIA control panel.

>>558520182
Depends on what the fuck you even mean by kino. Am I supposed to employ tarot here to find out?

Where the fuck is the announcement?

>>558522248
for?

>>558474294
don't pretend you don't get dopamine from grinding you dumb faggot. you have a human brain that rewards such things the same as us.

>>558505340
i will take even darktide bots over malice players any day of the week

>>558522741
How 'bout you grind that puh on my dih?

>>558521554
You can answer the question based on your own idea of what kino means.

>>558523815
Loyalist heraldry from any of the traitor legions that changed theirs after Istvaan 3.
>War Hounds
>Dusk Raiders
>Luna Wolves
Loyalist Iron Warriors are also acceptable.

>>558523524
What does that mean

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so this is the reward for doing 3 million penances huh

>>558530128
They could have at least let us colour it.

ogryn hasnt gotten any new melee weapons for 650 days (june 20, 2024)

>>558531628
psyker hasnt gotten any new staves in 1183 days (nov 30, 2022)

let this general die in peace.

>>558530128
the zealot helmet clips through the blue armor they give you..

>>558498106
>bodytype difference
doesn't make that much of a difference. you said it yourself: "soulful". but not inherently good design. It's a waste of effort for what is already a waste of effort of a class, for a waste of effort of a company. your idea simply isn't enough to save the class, hence alternate but still bad.

>Get the mod that shows your 'real' level.
>been playing since beta on and off
>Figure I must have some respectable levels at least on Veteran since I did not even have everything else maxed and I had 100 missions done on him
>Level, 140
>Keep seeing people with 500, 800+

wtf, I have 700 hours how do people play so much?

>>558536736
>how do people play so much?
genuine, actual, nonmemey autism

>>558536736
the games been out for 4 years. steam says i have 62 hours in the past 2 weeks.

>>558536736
>autism
>scratches the itch'
>spamming Havocs or Maelstrom gives a steady amount of levels

>>558536736
Several people here have over 2k hours

>>558536736
I've seen people with 2600+ true level in heresy missions and they play like shit.
Boggles the mind.

>>558536736
There hasn't been a better action game since 2022. So whenever i want to blow off some mental steam i play darktide. 2500 hours later, here i am. Also the skill cap in this game is so high I can still learn and improve. That helps keeping the game engaging.

There have been other good action games but for whatever reason they don't last as long.
Armored Core 6 was awesome but I don't replay single player games.
Helldivers 2 is cool but the pacing is actually really slow. Everything has a delay. Great game but it's too slow for my brain.
Battlefield 6 is fun but there's not much to learn once you understand the maps. I've already peaked.
Space Marine 2 is unplayable. I don't like the gameplay, and i have a seething hatred for animation hit-stop. It looks like the game is lagging on every single attack. Stop doing this.
KF3 was decent for 2 week, then i lost interest.
Nioh 3 wasn't my thing.
So I just keep coming back to darktide.
Thank you for reading my life story.

>>558522741
it's absurd to think everyone enjoys "grinding". especially when the grind in question is the worst mission in the game and the only reward is a UI update. no thanks.

>>558522741
Working in a cubicle is grinding, and that has driven people to suicide.

>>558541406
There's a very important difference there though. That's grinding on someone else's terms and more to their benefit than your own.

>>558543251
Your priorities are wrong.

>>558543401
Said the anon in the honorary Darktide general, without elaborating at all. You've really challenged my worldview now.

>>558543796
You get paid to work in a suicide inducing cubicle, you don't get paid to grind with suicide inducing retards in darktide

>>558544091
Are you a femboy?

>>558544091
always the psyker

>>558543892
If you seriously equate what it's like to slave away in white collar work you have no attachment to besides earning a living off it to playing a video game, why are you here? Well I guess shitposting here means you aren't playing, but still.

>>558544502
Hey, you're the one who said everyone gets dopamine from grinding

>>558544187
its your life, whatever you wanna do

>>558544664
Wasn't me, but I don't disagree. You really just need to personally care about the grind and what it's for, which is not the same as being forced to do it for something you need to not live in squalor, how isn't that obvious?

>>558545312
It isn't obvious because your priorities are wrong.

>>558489683
They should just give us different body types, that's it.
No need to tie specific extra character stats or skills to them. Just keep body types cosmetic.

>>558545350
It isn't obvious because your horizon for priorities begins and ends no further than one abstraction away from immediate needs.

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do NA really?

>>558548017
Grinding in a video game brings no benefit whatsoever, not even dopamine, because it's not the grinding that does that. You're like a guy saying chain smoking is good ackshualee then dying of cancer because he's attached to the idea that every action he takes is justifiably correct, and can't simply be self aware of its nature as a vice. Whether you're killing your soul in a cubicle or in a video game, at least the cubicle work is actually getting you paid for your effort, you get fucking nothing out of the video game grind except more grind. You won't understand that though, because your priorities are fucked to the degree where your needs pyramid is inverted.

>>558548404
You literally cannot tell me why things are good or bad without invoking materialism or circular logic, and for someone in that positioning you're sounding awfully preachy right now.

>>558550363
Am I? I'm not saying stop, everyone here is doing the same thing, we even have a guy that comes around sometimes and complains about there being less grind in darktide because of weapon crafting. You just shouldn't act like grinding in a video game brings any real benefit to your life, because it doesn't unless you're a youtuber and you've monetized it. You're wired for number go up, not for the process of making number go up.

>>558550634
What is a real benefit to your life? Everything you personally live through is your reality, and clearly you've chosen to make and keep this game a part of that because it helps you have something to do (or grind if you will!) and no one can stand the itch of not having something to do.
Do you feel guilty when you're not doing something that improves your wealth or health? That's reasonable to a degree, but now it's led you to making some ridiculous claims on the internet, which I'd argue is a point at which it's not reasonable.

surely there's a better way to bump a thread

Why didn't Cousin Okri just stop the end times? Was he on vacation that day or something?

>>558555592
HAHAHAHA ON VACATION CAN YOU IMAGINE? LOL BAZINGA UPVOTED!

we won't get any new ogryn weapons ever again.

>>558557398
why hank hates his main

>>558557519
he is mentally disabled and doesn't understand game balance or game design.

>>558556176
dilate

>>558536256
>ignoring that it comes with stat changes
>"coolness doesn't matter"
yeah, just wanted to be contrarian. good little boy, you're so cynical and cool!

Anyone played the Far Far West "demo"? It's like DRG but instead of space dwarf miners it's space robot cowboys, the gameplay structure is basically the same, but there's no character classes (at least at the current stage).

Execution order on arbites seems pretty underrated. It just eventually highlights all the gunners and snipers on the screen, which is good value if you use a bolter

>>558540320
Agreed on all points. Despite its flaws, they struck gold with the gameplay here.

>>558544091
>>558544142
>>558544380
>>558556176
Kek

They should take Execution Order into a 2nd "dog keystone", move it up next to Lone Wolf and bake all of EO's sub-nodes, besides Malocator, into 1 node.
Then remove both go get em and unleashed brutality.

Obviously need to make a new regular keystone that you put Malocator into.

>>558566548
>they should massively buff arbites
Why though?

>>558566548
As long as EO retains the purple wallhack, they can do whatever the fuck with it. It's the main reason I take it. The cooldown reduction is just an excuse to run Nuncio in havoc.

>>558566943
Noncio seems really great for havoc, I started out running castigators then realized I was being selfish and didn't really need it anyway, switching to Noncio just means we never have to give up any space, it makes enemies into such pushovers

>>558564519
>head wobbling when you turn left or right
DECLINED

>>558566736
Not really all out buff, just a restructuring.

>>558568023
Wouldn't it be a pretty significant buff?
>4 talents for the price of one point
>let you get a whole new keystone with the 3 points you saved

>>558568552
Just like LW then.

>>558570045
Lone wolf removes your dog as the downside, what downside would your suggestion have?
Like I'm not sure how you can argue this wouldn't be a massive buff when the reality of it is
>hey you know this execution order build with a dog?
>what if you had the same point investment but you got an additional keystone on top of it?

And to begin with, why shouldn't lone wolf have access to execution order if he desired it

>>558567946
Are you a baby?

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>>558571645
agoogaga

saw my first inferno primary spam attack exploiter today
made me sad

>>558572008
tried it without the exploit (used fullauto mod tho). It's so fucking boring

On the topic of Arbites, can Terminus Warrant (the middle keystone) be saved?
Or should it simply be something else entirely...

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>perfect block

>>558339724
Ah, the ambassador from Clan Pestelins!

>>558572486
Yes, just make it not fucking rape all of your stacks the instant you cleave through 5 poxers, so it can actually fucking supply your toughness regen to everyone else. Even then, it's kind of just support.

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>>558328982

>>558574062
>pov you turn your head to see how your allies are fairing while you hold the entire wave at the front

>>558544091
buddy must squeal with joy when an arbites + dog joins the game

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>:C

Carpenter bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcqO1OOMK4k

>>558574263
He agry.

>>558574062
someone post that webm of the crusher one shoting the entire team on the elevator

Why so many jewtubers use skullcrusher for the Devil Claw

>>558575572
More damage

>>558576016
even over shred?

>>558575572
>jewtubers
everyone that takes himself seriously uses Skullcrusher because it's one of the greatest blessings.
>why
The damage increase is a debuff and thus applies to everyone else's damage. If anyone stuns a boss for any reason whatsoever (kraks, shout, chorus, etc.) you just need to light attack it twice and it suddenly takes +80% damage.

>>558576056
why not bring shred and skullcrusher? what more do you need?

>>558573831
Wrong species

>>558570421
>what downside would your suggestion have?
No LW.

>>558577881
I'd say rampage since it gives power/strength and not dmg

>>558578896
But the right intentions

>>558580691
So again: builds with dog and execution order already exist and don't need a buff. Why are you suggesting they need execution order for free and a new keystone on top of this?
Are you just actually brain damaged and don't understand that's adding power to a build thats already really good?

Enclave you are a retarded nigger and should kill yourself

>>558574263
angry marines cosplay

>>558595830
>Are you just actually brain damaged and don't understand that's adding power to a build thats already really good?
NTA but this general still harbors some VERY FUCKING RETARDED shitters who think the dog is bad for some reason. They're probably too fucking stupid to tag the correct targets, and/or Muslims because those hate dogs for some retarded reason.

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I really don't understand this jew's comics

>>558600685
Dogs can sense evil

>>558595830
EO isn't getting buffed, it's not an over all buff.
Hell, you could make it so that arby only gets 2 regular keystones and get rid of malocator and it'd be fine too.

>>558601134
So stupid that she tricked herself into thinking that something actually was there

>>558601612
Seriously

>>558600685
You only think the dog is good if you're bad at playing. A good player doesn't need the dog and does better over all without it.
200k bleed damage over the course of a game on trash mobs, the least threathening thing in the game, isn't good or that valuable especially when it is so sparse and random.

>>558601134
His drawings of him killing palestinians were better (no)

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>>558601134
Is this the end result of being terminally moe anime-brained?

>>558601997
Nothing about this is moe

>>558601957
At least that is funny

>>558601565
letting the same build get a second keystone is an overall buff
the only way you think this could possibly be balanced is if you undervalue execution order a fuckton

>>558601854
>You only think the dog is good if you're bad at playing
Spoken like a true Dunning-Krugroid malicelet. Immediately assuming its only use is being some dumbfuck crutch against dogs and mutants because that's what (You) think is all it's good for.
No, Lone Wolf mine spam is the ultimate shitter crutch. Shock mine spam is only useful if you're bad at the game. If you use it outside of havoc I am fucking pointing the finger and laughing at you retard. If you use it in havoc, you get DECLINED from any serious 40 group. LW only has a place in the havoc shitter bracket where retards fail very possible DPS check, and in auric for grenade spam which is actually pretty good.
The dog is extremely useful for locking down rainbow enemies in havoc, and taking care of snipers that your secondary doesn't kill, which should almost always be the case, because you should be using the stun shotgun. If you don't use it, and don't know why, or think it's bad, then we're not even having this conversation. Fuck you.

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>>558602150
meeeeh

>>558602068
I'm not talking about the art, but how the characters behave.

>>558602903
>>558601134
Uhh...
I think they're sparring or cat fighting, vet tries to play a dirty trick on psyker, who obviously doesn't fall for it, but rather looks like she does because she ACTUALLY notices (with psychic powers) the shroudfield zealot *teleports behind u*ing them to break up the fight?

I think that's what's happening here. The art is so fucking ugly that it makes my eyes bleed so I don't want to look at it any longer.

>>558602564
I use a bolter cause i play with my friends and all of them suck dick at boss damage but I still use the dog cause it saves me so much ammo and headache and it's generally great to just smack the shit out of a captain and snap-turning to send the dog after some distant specials, it's like you're two players at once
I like LW too for the abject tankiness but it's more fun to direct a dog around

>>558602585
In a funny because it's true kind of way

>>558603347
I don't even think LW bonuses fully make up for losing the dog. The DPS gain barely offsets the dog and only really translates into saving points (BTL + Forceful AV is the only way to justify it) but you're sacrificing Canine Morale which is better tankiness not only for you but for everyone else.
So many people also overlook the part where the dog constantly, permanently, and passively keeps you at max stacks for all of your stack-building shit, including Forceful. Even while doing objectives.

I also have to assume that LW shitters assume you MUST bring remote det with the dog, as if they need daddy's permission to bring shock mines without regen. A good havoc team shouldn't need more than 2-4 a run at most. Half the mines I throw are wasted anyway. Good runs barely benefit from them. Some turbo shitter will inevitably have a melty at me saying that because they can't fathom having smooth runs, being stuck in the 20-30 trench and whatnot lol.

>>558602585
what?

>>558603860
>Good runs barely benefit from them.
What kind of logic is that when discussing the merits of a build? Shouldn't your goal be to build in such a way that it swings as many shit runs as possible into good ones?

>>558602564
You getting this worked up and writing this essay just proves me correct.
Dog is useless and dog bleed is even more useless, psykers already shit out a stream of soulblaze that rapes everything, if you think or need 6 stacks of bleed that happens occasionally to deal with that, then by definition bad at playing this game.

You're bad at playing, that's why you need the dog. Not gonna even bother reading any of those drivel because it's just all cope.

>>558605019
what?

>>558603860
I just like being able to spam the explosive grenade from time to time, it's fun to just rape the rager packs that way, so on the occasions I run LW instead I bring those
Honestly just dont like shock mines, it's like bringing a smite psyker. I'm trying to get away from those

>>558605270
>I get carried by psykers so the dog is bad
Concession accepted
>rent free dog bleed when it was never mentioned
lmfao
>>558605084
The goal should be getting ahead and staying ahead. Mitigating failure is obviously nice, but giving up an entire core part of your build (the dog) just so you can play crutch for your 3 shitters with shock mine spam, is not it.
Runs should be half decided at the party finder screen by not letting retarded builds through. Good team compositions just rape enemies, including rotten armor + healers. If you think running pure sweat meta is boring, that's fine, but we're discussing what's good, not what's fun.

>>558605694
>but we're discussing what's good, not what's fun.
Yes, we're on the same page about that. Just sounds silly when your argument is "oh you don't need this when your team is winning anyway".
Don't get me wrong, I do think the dog build is better, but that's dogsplosion versus lone wolf shock mine, not dog with shitty poorly built shock mines versus actually well built shock mines.

>>558606383
I don't think remote det does enough to justify it over the ability to salvage emergencies the same way shock mines does.
LW is complete and utter overkill because you should never need that many mines. Enemies should be dying before the LW regen becomes relevant, and if they don't, your team composition is bad and you should never have started the run in the first place.
Remote det is awkward when it comes to staggering hordes of enemies because the dog should ideally be all the way over there mauling the sniper, gunner, etc., and monsters should get stagger raped anyway even without it. The few times monsters do become problematic, remote det very, very rarely helps.
A single shock mine near a rescue site when you're the last one standing will literally salvage a run, even if it's the only shock mine you ever use.

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>>558605324