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alive gaem
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Drawfags?
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Buff Hoodwink
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>queue up aghs
>lobby : peru
how do i prevent this
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>>558575449
stop it, I won't draw anything for you
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sup bros im tanner and my dad owns a car dealership, he's loaded. I play invoker mid and could own any of you scrawny fags 1v1. I study finance at state and play on the football team, im jacked.
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>pos 3 SB 5k networth min 20 and half of that is 19 min midas
Xaxaxxa )))))))))))))))))))))) as they say.
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>>558538617
>say that one more time brother
He's a retard and should be castrated as to not infect the rest of the world with his brainrot.
Do you need me to say it a third time?
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sex with lina
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>>558578317
nah you definitely play cod or halo
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patch???
theyre not gonna leave like 10 heroes with literally no facet for half a year right...
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>>558578408
I do this in 5600 MMR and I FUCK, countless squirrels were raped by me as pos 3 bara
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you very much for your continued support!
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lina pickers are so bad lmao
like wdym you have a free lane but your ending kda is 2/7/5
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>>558587262
I clicked don't recommend channel on your video :)
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NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER!
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>>558581764
*sunstrikes you*

mad bro?
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hows all this passive dmg even possible
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lost 7 lbs this month lads
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>>558587383
>Lina dies to stuns
Yeah, should have waited for you to commit.
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>>558591738
>how do i counter a stove
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>>558592227
lmao he legit abandoned, don't ask me why
no rax were taken on either side but they did die 5 people
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>>558591990
congrats!
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>>558591990
you're gonna gain it back as soon as you stop counting calories
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is pudge not as scary as he used to be? I remember playing sf and sniper mid vs him and if you got hooked it was literally game over and he'd snowball and solo win the game.
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Another game of dota ruined by a pos 4 retard who picks potm
Skills arrow lvl 1
And goes midas
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>>558595934
If my pos4 picks mirana, I fucking hope he's puting his first point in arrow. What, you want a support who can only jump, or throw a shitty nuke that empty his mana pool and does nothing except kill creeps?
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>>558594150
I don't count calories, I just started exercising
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>>558598207
That sounds like a recipe for a rebound, learn to eat, exercise is a complement.
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>>558597413
???
he needs to skill
fucking q
so he can trade with the enemy pos 5
otherwise how can we even play the fucking lane?
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>>558597413
Pounce is fine level 1 for trading and being annoying, you can get level 2 for farming camps while harassing on lane.
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Is this a Crystallis not on broolers or Crystallis on SF issue? Because SF this game looks bad.
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Has anyone else had random groups of high mmr players invite them to a party? I keep wondering why the heck I keep getting random immortals inviting me to their 3-4 stack
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>not a support player
But when I played Mirana I went Q => E => Q => W
If we couldn't trade much I'd go arrow first so I could arrow the ranged creep or the hard camp.

I think leveling up arrow unless you've got setup is grief because no matter how practiced you are you're gonna miss arrows.
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>>558604935
Says Q even blinds now with facet
But the torteshitty guide still says w/e lvl 1/2

Fucking awful
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>>558606813
Why do people hate Torte guides so much?
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>>558608763
he is a 3k player, not a pro, he steals shit from open dota
Would you listen to the opinions of a 3k player? I wouldn't. I want to learn from pros, not from some random brown in archon.
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>>558608968
I thought he was an Immortal or some shit, it's in his mini profile on Dota
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>>558609104
He is high 2k at best, If he got to immortal recently its 100% boosted just to save face.
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>>558609285
>Tortelini sold out to a betting site
Ah
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>>558587383
>tiny purple item
have the devs run out of ideas
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picked core omni today lads
got mvp
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>>558611419
he feels awful to play from behind with
but if you win your lane the game is ez
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>>558611151
Nigga that's Phylactory
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>>558609285
says hes ancient 1 on his stream
so 4k
and like you can only specialize in so many heros, pros/high mmr build certain ways because thats how they play the game

Not necessarily want to go potm w, then dodge lange/arrow ranged creeps/etc
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You know what.
I'm gonna try and break away from Torte and ImmortalFaith guides.
From now on, I'll only use Russian guides that I can't actually read.
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>>558614687
this is the teammate valve is matching you with
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>>558615273
I already know what all the items do and how to use them, I just like having suggestions sometimes.
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>>558612903
im not gonna invest myself in nu-dota, sowwy!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>558615521
this is the teammate valve is matching you with
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>>558615641
i play exclusively carry and build like its 2014
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>>558587262
how do you manage to keep up with the production of your vids? are you a NEET with ADHD?
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>win with warlock
>get MVP

this supportcuck glaze needs to end
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>>558587383
what the fuck are you the deadlock fag who plays not enigma
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>I got two Tusk offalnes in a row
WHY. THE HERO DOES NOTHING AS AN OFFLANE, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO FARM.
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>>558598713
learn to not be a fag
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>>558622996
?
im gonna go phase boots deso
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>>558575449
here, take it
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god
should i just spam pitlord
free cleave is so nice....
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>>558624191
hoodwink > cm
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>>558624191
Hoodwink bro is that you?
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what's your theorycraft anon?
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>>558623982
Then you die and you are 60 cs 20 minutes in with no way to recover.
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>>558624191
Rylai is so fucking hot
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>>558626771
She is actually quite cool
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When you report someone and then get the message that action has been taken at their account what usually happens to them? Low priority queue? Reported someone got matched with them immediately after, did the same shit so reported them again. Valve Said action taken against them twice
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncv4dlvPUwU
post tunes for offlane grinding
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>>558624498
yerp
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>>558627263
They lose some BC thats it. If they are repeat offenders they will get low priority even with high BC.

In short nobody almost gets punished ever but it is exponential, they can go from 12k to 6k really fast while climbing back might take a year of no typing.
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Whats meta now.
I haven't played in months.
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>>558630556
puck slark warlock
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Whats with the iranian situation in EUW servers? Are they truly worse than Russians and Peruvians?
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>>558630556
Dotaprotacker

Go auras, greaves for mid. Clinkz slark post 1, razor and dk every core position.
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Lifted tails
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just had a weird game where
my carry jugg maxed healing ward first?
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>>558633512
I can get behind it if the lane is so miserably shit that you have to jungle early.
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its my birthday today and id really appreciate if (You) posted some deer :)
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Why is there a shadowfiend in every single game I play now?
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Leaguechads are laughing at us...
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>>558638321
zxc
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>Offlane picks undying
>nothing wrong with this
>he doesn't spam decay at lane
>puts his tombstone in front of enemies
nearly made me mad, the entire point of picking offlane undying is to dominate lanes with decay spam
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>>558638321
you time traveled back to 2008
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>>558637940
It's over dude, there's no new deer and there won't be forever
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>>558637940
happy birthday
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>>558638321
he was given a very balanced new skill
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my nigger axe is buying shroud over bkb or pipe
end my life
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>>558644503
Based I do the same, every time I buy auras and team fight items I lose because the team is bad. I always do selfish shit now and win more games.
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>>558644595
uh yeah he ended the game 1-2-2 and abandoned
very great player
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I want to see Enchantress in her underwear
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>Ephey saying teams that stack the jungle more win more
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never seen a bigger carry diff
we were winning but this guy just kept dying to random shit
in the time the PA bought 3 rapiers (after dying and dying) this mf bought exactly 0 items, never got an aghs, has a mf disperser for some reason and a swift blink recipe over buyback
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when are they making a new innate ability for mirana, it's the worst most useless shit in the game
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>>558648958
you still have your xmas event active.
900k players btw.
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5 kills before the even put the match on the screen wtf
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Why is Bondage the far and away superior facet for QoP? Her lifesteal is real, generally MOSTLY makes up for the damage she takes, and it increases her farm and kill potential by a ton. I mean, it's a free Kaya from the start of the game, surely good high level players would pick it over the "safe" facet to flex if nothing else, right?
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>right hand half paralyzed
>can still play warlock and win games
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>>558650167
Isn't that nigga fit as fuck?
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>>558633512
It's fine, the ward is insane, it's really a second ult. I think its good with the diffu/maelstrom build since you don't use the crit as much and you can run with the team early and take rosh towers and tormentor.
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>>558639919
You can get the same with support undying and get a scaling offlane instead.
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It has probably been answered a 1000 times already but I still ask. In which scenarios do you go dragon lance before manta on Luna?
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>>558655452
dota isn't a "if this then do that" game
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>dare to talk in game
>muted or bh score drops to below 6k in 10-15 matches
>don't talk or ping
>reported anyway

They remember it's a game meant for entertaintment and not for projection of their illness right?
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>>558655452
If the ennemy team has 0 spells that is dodgable by manta and won't pick an orchid.
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>>558655452
never
manta speeds up your farm because of the stats & illus in ways dragon lance doesn't
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>>558655452
when you're griefing
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>>558655452
if the enemy pos 1 or 2 natures profit is 15-0 at 10 minutes and you need pike as soon as possible (buying quelling blade would be better still but if you have to ask you are too much of a brainlet to eat a tree)
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>my team has all the guys trying the fotm heroes with the meme builds
>their team has a solid draft that scales
>they win
cool!
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ephey is literally naked under her clothes
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>>558655452
Its deeper than that. Its Dragon lance vs yasha and if Yasha then its Dragon Lance vs Manta.

Dragon lance vs Yasha is just fight now versus farm, you might go dragon lance early in lane after treads if you feel the dragon lance will keep you laning.

Dragon lance vs Manta is similarish. Dragon Lance is fight now and Manta is more farming with more ms, agi and split but Manta does allow you to fight too thanks to the str gain, damage with ilus and the dispel might enable you to fight now.

Dragon lance is cheaper than manta.
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>>558655949
Dota is literally a bunch of if this then do that game.
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>>558660161
But all fotm heroes scale well
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I should become a pos 3 spammer but only pick lycan and visage.
Yay or nay?
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>>558661378
Can you play zoo
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>>558661653
Yes.
I'm a micronigger.
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>>558662087
Then sure but people in this game sure love to over estimate their abilities, your effort is better spend learning to shove waves as you look to force good fights and farm the map.
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it's role tokens day so you already know it's a loss day
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>>558662383
I never said I was good at it :^}
I played 12-ish years ago, but then sorta moved to WC3Sc2 (casually, I'm not some sort of grandmaster), back then I did also play Chen/visage but they where support only and lycan was a trench dogshit hero that existed to dumpster bads who cant handle split push.
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Heroes like Arc Warden but they actually look cool?
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>couldn't kite because champion has low turn rate

Am I supposed to study charts before playing a game?
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>>558662923
>>>/lolg/
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>>558637940
hbd anon
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>riki mid
>ends up with the lowest net worth of the game
It's my punishment for climbing 1k mmr in 2 weeks.
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Enchantress enchanting you and forcing you to inhale her massive doe nuts
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have you guys ever made a dota fren
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>>558666172
yeah, but ive lost many, many more...
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>>558666914
would you say grinding 5000 behavior score to be able to use voice chat would be a good way to make frens
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I need that vid of sheever's jugs again
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I'm so fucking bad at CSing when contested and it's fucking embarrassing that I've been playing this game for so long and still so bad at it.
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>>558668335
Just take the support pill and an constantly harass the enemy laners.
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is hoodwink a squirrel or a fox?
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>>558668768
Squirrel
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>>558668534
Are supports not supposed to go for every cs?
could you tell mine that?
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>>558668534
it's so boring to play support when your cores (which there are 4 of in every match unless I'm playing pos4) are afk junglers.
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>>558669510
I afk jungle because if I farm a wave 5 people will show up instantly and I will die
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>>558669653
when do you stop jungling?
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>>558669743
When showing up on the map won't make 5 people appear instantly and kill me
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>~7 min queue times weekday evening eu
>player didnt accept
WWTTTFFFFF IIISSS GOGOINGNIG ONNNNNNNNN
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the games are so fucking terrible since i reached under 10k behavior score
just a bunch of afk bots doing retarded shit
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>>558670498
i'm trying my best...
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This video game just makes me angry and frustrated
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>>558669821
they're sieging our highground, it's time to get out of the jungle Pedro.
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>>558671350
They're all 5 levels up, me joining the fight won't help
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uhhh, doturds??
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what happened to our local drawfriends, they kinda just stopped posting.
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>>558672446
don't trannies have a 50% suicide rate or something?
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Can't find any good Arc Warden guides. I'm getting decent with Naga Siren so I'm thinking I'll probably be able to understand him.
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does BM need to go helm of dom? I can handle micro the boars, it's like forge spirits, but I don't want to play a zoo character.
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>I am going to play beastmaster
>but i dont want to play a zoo hero, nonono
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What is it with this game and every single hero that actually has interesting abilities falling off after 10 minutes and becoming a creep ON TOP of being hard to play the hero itself
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>>558616898
The channel is my fulltime job so I don't really consider myself a NEET, but I guess you could call it that.
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>>558666172
I wish I had one, no one in my country plays this game. It would be fun to discuss the game with someone elae.
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>>558672985
Beastmaster is a summon hero with only 1 summon
Half of his kit is dedicated to buffing his minions, and then all he gets is the boar. Helm may as well be an Aghs item for him, It's one of the hero's abilities gated by gold.
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>>558674073
>run small youtube channel for 5 months with no sponsors until like 2 videos ago
>can now quit job
Youtubers and streamers make fucking insane money and I'm tired of all of them pretending how poor and inconsistent and sad their lives are
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>>558672985
just go aghs blink bkb shiva and brool the dps is too crazy and never falls off
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>>558675335
something tells me this isn't honest experienced advice given in good faith...
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>>558674073
Mr. Powerpoints, the people need to know, which hero have you jerked off to the most?
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You ARE building up your Beastmaster skills for when the Beastmistress persona comes out, right??
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>>558674538
I am not rich by any measure. I also started after losing my previous job, so I was already unemployed.

>>558676313
I don't really jerk off to Dota heroes.
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anyone stop playing some boring but good heroes because its "too easy"?
like i dont play lina or qop mid anymore, ursa carry etc
this used to be AM in the beta and i still don't play him
doesnt matter how nerfed or buffed they are
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>>558676951
can't forget TA, doesn't matter that she's a carry now, used to be the easiest fucking mid in the game for years
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>>558676951
Immortal rank?
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>>558677287
eu 2k something
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>>558677329
OH NO NO NO NO NO
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Why is it called a boar when it's clearly a cat????
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>>558676824
what rank r u
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>>558677410
post yours
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>>558672776
Is there any way to have so pressing abilities when having multiple units will have it press by both units? Would make micro with him significantly easier.
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>>558678540
auto hotkey.
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why isn't Jensen dressed like a clown or a woman? is that a TI special?
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>>558679334
>Jensen
lmao I'm thinkin novidio, I meant Jenkins!!!
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Do they not upload VODs anymore
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>>558679213
Do you know where that is? Searching it gives me nothing.
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>>558678003
Cat that makes stock wolf sounds
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this is grief right
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I love sheever so much it's unreal
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>start playing pos4
>winrate skyrocket just by the fact I don't play like a retard
is pos4 really that easy to climb with?
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Sometimes I want to pick an offlane hero before being reminded of the abject misery that is playing offlane
why the fuck does anybody willingly queue for this
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>teammate picks core Mirana
>lv 30 hero mastery
>they skill arrow lv 1
>always uses it on a creep so they have ZERO presence in lane
>doesn't even try to last hit
>stands there afk after arrow
>think they're timing a Q or something but the wave dies while they do nothing
>gets mad and pings me when I take the last hits they're wasting
>enemy duo is two melees but there is zero threat from diving Mirana so they punch her over and over again
>Mirana never fights back, always slowly walks away from dives until it's too late because she's saving Leap for Dota 3 or something I don't fucking know, and Q for the next creep wave
>never uses arrow on an enemy running away with low HP
>never uses Q when the enemy pulls the wave because????????
>lose lane
>lose game
>run into about 20 different Miranas like this (I started a list after #5)
>latest game was ruined by pos 1 Mirana
WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST?!!?!?!
HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
HOW ARE THEY HAVING FUN DOING THIS????
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queue russia for no communication at all or queue eu west and get russians AND peruvians?
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You see this dogshit void build?
He was 9/0/14
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>>558681447
nah where is it?
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>>558681447
i cant see shit brother
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>>558681447
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>>558681651
seems good enough for your elo
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>>558680339
shadow poison is useless on lane. a lot of retarded SD players do chip damage with shadow poison instead of using Q and W for a big burst
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>>558681854
>shadow poison is useless on lane
Yeah, if you're bad.
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>>558682183
nobody's talking to you autist
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>>558682270
Calling yourself a nobody in third-person is a pretty bad look, Anon. Do you need help? Do you want to talk?
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>>558682270
el retardo stop posting
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now watch the retarded 3k mmr autist faggot shoot down the d2pt consensus again
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How do I stop getting bored out of my mind and feeding/mentally afking at the 30 minute mark
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>>558680339
Shadow poison is only worth taking if you're laning against low mobility heroes with low health pools
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>>558682780
play fighting games
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>>558682418
>>558682425
where'd you go nigger tranny? Hello?
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>>558681412
i've evaluated that acc buyers on euw are far more common and therefore will be going back to russia
like what the fuck is this offlane
its like i mback on bnet
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>>558683640
I'm playing dota because I'm existentially bad at fighting games
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After watching a few games, Kez seems like a tanky pos 3 candidate to me
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>>558684372
you can build essentially anything on him
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the most stressful part of dota is queueing up
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>>558683640
Agreed. You'll get rewarded for playing like a braindead ape there.
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lmao im palying against a scripting sf thats the first ive ever seen
he literally locks on with his razes just turns instantly and does w e
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>>558685862
and he auto ultis when he gets charged LMAO
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Do they seriously not put up VODs for dl anymore
The stream cut off before Mouz Aurora and they only post highlights on their channel
Meanwhile the "panel" is just making cookies
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>>558685862
>>558686376
imagine going 0-7 with scripts playing the game for you
holy shit russians are so despicable
feel free to throw some reports https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199681593792/
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>>558687085
the profile is as funny as the game as i played
10 pages of comments all posted within 5 minutes all saying the same shit "+rep"
LMAO
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>>558686440
Is this run by ESL or whatever? I heard that they deleted all past VODs and don't post much recently. Probably some weird attempt to maintain a content monopoly or something. Just go make your own VODs using the replays.
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>>558686440
Is that what Sheever calls it now?
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>>558575082
>that OP
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Lol largo needs a hard ass nerf
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Ame is so good
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>>558692042
its jsut his aghs that is overtuned
its fine for him to heal or to deal damage but right now he does too much of both
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another great luna with no carry items
farming for 50 min yet cant even manfight a supp1
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these fucking carry diffs are INSANE
FREE FUCKING FARM
3-4-2 IN 50 MINUTES AND NOT A SINGLE GOOD ITEM ON HIM
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doc says I gotta stop eating gas station microwave burgers every day
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NEW HERO picked WAOW
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how do we fix lycan
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spektrus cant stop blogging about his accbuyer pool games
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why is troll warlord allowed to have a root on autoattack and how am i supposed to deal with it
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What's TobiWan up to these days?
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soul draft from XG
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If they had these pocket picks all this time why were they picking the most boring shit imaginable?
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>>558697413
looks like he works for some place called codered esports
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Man this game looks like a beatdown. Tinker is left unbothered in the early game
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Cope+Seethe+Mald+L+Ratio+No bitches+No paper+Ur ugleh+Yo Mama+You fell off
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is this a honest draft from XG
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>khanda visage
ursa warrior sisters...
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is mikoto smiling right now
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>>558697413
father to his children
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>>558700467
>maelstrom slardar
>wr with midas blink octarine
>brown boots bkb maelstrom viper
THE DEEPEST OF TRENCHES PRESENTS:
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>Get reported 5 times
>Lose 10 points
>Get reported 2 times
>Lose 4000
Make it make sense.
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>>558701331
loli milk has the lowest mmr in the general since he managed to reach 50mmr. i think he has sub 5k behavior too so he's playing in some odd trench pool forget about it
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>>558701531
Rong
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>>558701693
You were 50mmr when you were calibrated bro it's fine
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ough imagine sheever naked mmmhmm doughy hag body
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>>558701924
one must imagine the sea cow erotic
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>>558701924
yess
fridge bodied women like her and nattea are what turns me on the most. i cant get behind the bikini model look anymore. give me a 32 years old doughy but not fat fridge bodied mid with a well proportioned enough face but doesnt look like she particularly takes care of her looks . thats where beauty lays
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>>558674073
Does he actually visit here or is an anon larping.
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>>558702271
this is just you accepting/fetishizing the lowering of your standards
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>>558683919
This is literally Nexro best build right now except Euls
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It's up
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>>558701924
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>>558705626
>>558705980
how is she so lewd
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>play basically 2v1 mid against a tusk and puck
>win and get double kills
tempted to webm some shit havent dumpstered on mid campers this hard a while
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How do pos 4s get gold
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>>558707574
Stack camps for your cores.
Get kills.
In some cases you can get a farm aid after your first item. For instance, as skywrath pos4, I usually do 2 null talismans, arcane boots, rod of atos, and then get my shard, which will clear waves and camps very quickly. As ogre, you can get good mileage from midas.
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stack the ancient/med camp, pull, kill dudes,last hit when your 3 feeds
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>>558707574
Gank enemy lanes
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>>558707865
>For instance, as skywrath pos4, I usually do 2 null talismans, arcane boots, rod of atos, and then get my shard, which will clear waves and camps very quickly. As ogre, you can get good mileage from midas.
this a prime example of those bot pos4 players people complain about
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disruption illusions should do double damage to demonic purge units
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is this even human, anons? Is this POSSIBLE? 40 minute game, we won against them.
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rupture should be like mana leak and stun when the target runs out of hp
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>>558708730
are more of his aghs nerfs needed?
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oh well oh well cant win every game huh
supps gotta feed 20 deaths in 10 min
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>>558708048
They can complain to my ass when the ennemy carry is 0/5 and we're crushing every lane I move to.
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>>558707574
Shove waves your cores aren't farming.
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truly the most epic performance ive ever seen
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we all playing the new wow expansion, sisters?
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Could someone expain pos 1 to me
so my support is supposed to pull the creep wave into a camp, but i'm not supposed to kill the camp, i'm supposed to lose half my health to creeps under tower while the tower fucks up my last hits?
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>>558713569
bad support, lane ruined. sorry dotard, youll get em next time
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another classic "carry on my team"
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so now that the list is out...
is YOUR favorite hero's innate for rizzless incels or blackpilled obergrubbenführer chads?
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What do you go first on bristleback? Sny feels weird as a first item but nothing else comes to mind. I know people go lotus but I'm talking about if you're looking for selfish items. Is it just battlefury?
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>spend 34 minutes farming
>pick 1 fight on a hero taking the outpost that's been alone for like 4 seconds
>5 people collapse
literally
every
single
time
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>>558715031
midas moonshard
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paravision about to lose another series
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>>558715553
are they on masons team or the other team
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What's a good hero to play if you don't care if you win or lose?
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>>558715716
techies demolitions
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damn i guess i wasnt good enough to carry my account buyers
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today i got a double kill and someone said i'm doing very well and that they're very proud of me
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>>558715808
wish they didn't remove him from the game
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>>558678243
6.6kish, just lost my Immo rank again lmao

>>558702780
I post full-res unreleased fanart and I've teased future videos, IDK how else to clarify that it's me.
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>>558717320
what franchise characters DO you jerk off to?
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>>558717320
why pugna
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>>558717320
>6.6kish, just lost my Immo rank again lmao
You dropped 2k mmr just like that?
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>>558715031
phylactery
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>>558715031
vanguard hehey heho
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one single dota hero guide that was made within the last year and doesn't have a microphone/acccent that makes me want to rip my ears off
PLEASE
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>>558718295
bristle does have the best laugh line to spam
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>>558715553
I don't like their draft this game
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>>558718347
the whites went back to tf2 sorry
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>>558718972
does that mean i can get a black dota gf
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>>558717560
I jerk it to the sounds of a babbling brook and pure wind rushing through the trees.

>>558718040
Wanted a hero as the channel's mascot, realized any existing hero would come with connotations, chose a non-existent fan design that's just extant enough for people to recognize. A lot of people in the first few months were surprised to learn that her design is based on Pugna.

>>558718206
Have you heard my accent?
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>>558705626
what was she trying to do here?
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accent????
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>>558720358
Show me her boobies
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>>558719923
>Have you heard my accent?
No excuse, play on the real server.
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isn't anti-mage just a better version of PA
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>>558722726
no
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>>558722902
why nyot
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>>558722959
he's worse
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>>558722959
am isnt an assassin
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>>558723356
isn't a fighter just an assassin with more health
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>>558713569
>while the tower fucks up my last hits?
This part specifically is a skill issue. Towers will hit melee creeps 6 times before they're in last hit range (ranged creeps 3 times). Just learn to time it. Some creeps will die to tower if left alone because of RNG, some will get into last hit range. You have to watch and hit the former type twice so you can get the last hit.

You're also allowed to drag/kite the creep wave further back instead of tanking them. But make sure to not pull them into the pulled wave or your creeps will stop and move straight for the wave and make everything 10x worse. Your pos 5's job is to help manage the creep wave but as pos 1, it's your job too. You have to learn how to handle the creep wave even when you're alone.
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>>558723574
not really since am's burst is telegraphed
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>>558723986
but both of their burst is telegraphed by blinking on top of you
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>>558724487
pa can kill you from the bushes
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>>558724689
if you're at like 70 health
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>>558694973
u didn't use support items like glimmer to save luna
your fault the game was lost griefer
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>>558694973
>581 gpm is 15 higher than his average
>on one of the fasting farming carries in the game
???
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loss streaks make me rage queue
win streaks make me fear what gayben has in store for me next match
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>>558728957
your illness? mental.
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Just saying, if you don't log in for 8 years, then your behavior score should reset.
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>>558730059
THIS
SO MUCH THIS
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Heroes for this feel?

https://youtu.be/W-UGQbQarxc?si=58wAYFilKGi52BLW
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>>558713569
>so my support is supposed to pull the creep wave into a camp
No, he is supposed to keep wave under tower by any means, pulling every time can fuck this.

You can last hit and deny but your effort better be in the enemy creeps.
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>>558717320
Aren't you scared to be associated with 4chan.
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>>558713569
Drag the creepwave behind your tower
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>>558732526
4chan is normie now
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>>558732526
No because he isn't
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>>558732526
it worked out alright for hotpoo
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>>558729182
say that to my face not online and see what happens
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>Don't pick mid
>Drow Ranger gives lina 10 kills and 10 levels in 10 minutes
>but don't worry, she rushed shadow blade
I'm getting bored of never being allowed to touch another lane
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Just kinda retarded at this point
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>>558732526
how could they not not know about here? ti winners played in /d2g/ tournaments
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Could somebody explain why Clinkz does 60 fucking damage per auto attack in the early game and why he's somehow considered weak
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>>558734610
I would just roll your fatass down the road like you're a bowling ball.
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How much do ya bench /d2g/?
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>>558736326
Too reliant on spells compared to other carries, just silence him and watch him become weak
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>>558737602
225 :(
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>guy with 4000 games
>picks abaddon pos 4
>LITERALLY JUST STANDS AFK BEHIND ME AND SHIELDS ME A COUPLE TIMES
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Is Ember Spirit absurdly mana hungry but you just don't build mana on him because he's ember spirit so get gud just dont run out of mana lmao
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>>558740984
your bottle sis? your spirit vessel sis?
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>>558741106
I was wondering why a support item was apparently a core item on him
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>>558739863
thats good
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>>558741151
because vessel does ass tons of damage?
also u get kaya sange
and bottle
and aghs
and shivas
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>>558705626
>>558705980
I love her so much it's crazy
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>>558742508
then why dont other cores build it
huh
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comfort me, chat
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>>558742731
You look pretty today (:
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>>558736194
I don't believe you.
>>558736326
He is considered one of the strongest pos 1 right now
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>>558742614
you could go vessel on every hero yea
but some heros need fast kaya for mana regen
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>>558742775
LIAR
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>>558742824
???
this is news to me
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>>558742614
Mid NP builds it.

Lots of mids in general build it.
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>>558742824
he is not?
That would be SF or slark or something
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>>558743001
Fuck you then that's the last time I say anything nice about you.
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>>558743298
I knew you didn't mean it. Suck my canid dick.
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>>558743251
>SF pos 1
>strong
>let alone strongest
The fuck are you smoking? Pos 1 SF is shit and only picked by retard Russian and Chinese players.
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>>558743530
I would have meant it if you didn't lash out on me for no reason.
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>>558743531
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>558743574
Sowwy. I haven't won a game in 5 days. Pretty bleak.
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>>558744129
I'm willing to forgive you but I would have to sleep over it.
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>>558743251
I didn't say the strongest, he has fallen off a bit in ESL but he was picked a lot in the tourney before that.

He is literally really good in pubs if you know what you are doing, really hard to throw lane when you have a lvl 1 orb that hits for 90 and doesn't trigger creep aggro.
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I haven't played in over a year and still post here for some reason.
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>>558743531
Only the most picked hero in high mmr pubs and tourneys.
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>>558744369
I do because i have no friends.
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>lose 200 MMR
>thanks, POS 4 ""supports""
>queue back in to recover
>get paired up with shitters I previously muted
>thanks, Matchmaking
>queue back in, again
>disconnected
>reconnect
>disconnected
>reconnect
>repeat
>get an abandon, a loss, and -25 MMR
Thanks, Gaben.
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>>558747201
>Just had to abandon my ranked match to reboot my router because the ping went to 2000
>It might just be a server issue
I'm mad.
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>>558656332
why do you have chat enabled if you cant keep your fucking mouth shut you ape
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>tune in to topson stream
>he does a meme build and complains and flames his team mates
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Sat down and checked my last 100 games and sorted them by quality 85 games were bad. (12k bh score 6.5k EU)
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How come white people don't play dota?
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>>558748832
SEA is white
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>>558748832
first world countries don't prioritize esports.
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why are kez mains always autistic
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>>558750310
nobody plays that hero.
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>>558748703
how do you judge game quality? Any measurable metrics like bad hero picks or is it all vibes?
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>>558741151
>a support item
the fucking state of you
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>>558751792
Not him, but basically
>obvious meme picks that don't work
>retard builds that don't work
>team doing the "suicide 1 by 1 for no reason" shtick
are poor quality games.
Any game where my team cooperates and don't run around like chickens instead of taking a T2 or a torm is a good game, even if it's a loss.
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>>558751792
I lost and need an excuse, or won and my teammates made me miserable.

Or I won, and didn't feel like shit.
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patch doko
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>Lose a game with a retard sperging because he don't like me building greaves on a tanky offlaner
>Get matched against him next
>Lose again with a couple of absolute moron on my team
That is tilting as fuck
>only constant is you
Yeah and that's why i have >60% winrate on my recent games, but shit happens
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>>558755580
The only constant is that the losing team has more morons.
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have americans stopped pretending like they're any good at video games
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Remove the pause feature. I don't give a fuck if some third world monkey's PC crashes. We play on.
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>>558757191
>can't wait for me to take minute piss break
Damn, someone wants MMR no matter what, huh.
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I really wish the player score reports would indicatet the previous score, and show metrics, like what caused increases & what caused decreases.
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>>558757191
niggas like you are the first ones to cry when someone does that to your detriment
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>>558757191
I'm pausing your ability to post.
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come on back down mikoto
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>>558760991
lol
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>>558761124
is the honeymoon stage over
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>>558747492
I would rather lose than abandon
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>>558747492
It take you 5 minutes to reboot your router and reconnect?
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>>558755580
Why won't you buy this patch best item
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lil skeleton man
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i havent played ember for like 2 years and there's a reason why
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>Came back after a year or so break
>Decide to practice Naga Siren
>Somehow my micro control is magnitudes better than it used to be
I'm not sure what caused this. It's like I'm way more serene and methodical, focusing more on form rather than being quick which makes everything way more smooth. I've never realized one's mindset could be this impactful for mechanics.
Regarding micro, do you dotards use control groups? I've noticed assigned groups are kept whenever Naga recasts illusions (I'm 100% sure it used to not be the case a few years back). I've assigned them to ZXCV (easier to reach with CTRL) but always do select_hero > tab > tab > tab. I'm wondering if I should ditch them since that'd be nice item keybinds but maybe I should push myself to use them.
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>>558762657
pugna is a girl
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Let's say you are someone who just recently got into dota, which heroes would be the most beginner friendly heroes to pick?
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>>558765609
ogre, lich, axe, lifestealer,
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>puck gets 1 item
>instantly deletes your healthbar
-20% magic resist is balanced bro
trust me
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>>558765609
Depends which position
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>>558732526
>>558717320
I'd be more worried about being an avatarposter and attentionwhore, shilling your own shit in the middle of 10 minute videos, and starting at 3 $.
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when does my carry start building damage?
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i really dislike how valve tries to fool you with talents like this poison attack talent thats worded like its 10% extra flat slow
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>>558775206
the green flying menace is really fun though
im playing 1v3 or 1v4 mid every game
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B-buyback?
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>>558775206
yeah when you understand a lot of the % based talents are % compounded on the already existing % rather than a flat addition it becomes really lame
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what the fuck falkeks
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Is Ember Spirit black?
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>>558780064
Storm was always the basketball nigro
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>>558764308
Hero, summoned units, everyone
Those are the only control groups anyone has ever needed unless you're autistic enough to actively go into the menu and make new ones during the game itself
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>>558780274
you can set control groups in game without entering the menu
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>>558780064
He's black and chinese
Like Chen
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>>558764308
playing more games makes you better at games in general. I was peaking when I was constantly hopping between dota, wow, d2, cs, wc3, sc.
once they added the options to bind
>all summoned units
>all controlled units
I stopped using control groups.
I use M5 for all units, M4 for summoned, space for hero select + immediate center, instead of the old double tap F1, holding ctrl issues orders to all units, but I don't use this one very often.
assigned groups have saved for the lifetime of dota 2 I think.
1234567 are items now.
I use zxcvbn to toggle autocast, but you could probably get away with mapping this to just a single key if you wanted to go into all the heroes who actually have autocast abilities and individually bind them.
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>>558765609
the ones that have one star on the difficulty rating.
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I've been losing a lot lately and it's making me really angry and depressed. I just don't get my teammates when it comes to how they place themselves on the map and the plays they maeke, their refusal to take rosh and torm when it's a perfect moment, their stalling around AFKing under a tower waiting for a brool. I just can't anymore, it wasnt like this before. I feel like I've been sent to some kind of hidden bot pool
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>>558782369
post your score lines.
you are right where you belong.
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>>558782535
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>>558782535
>a good player would have outplayed 4 people diving the tier 1 at 7 minutes, you're bad because you didn't go 20/0
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>>558782535
>>558782951
And I'm not complaining about my rank, it's not an MMR thing, it's a teammate quality issue. It's like they're playing against me now, before I could get them to play the map
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>>558782951
>no impact support player
seriously though, it sucks playing support with 4 afk jungling retards.
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>>558782990
correct
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>>558782990
yeah because a good player would have looked at the map and noticed they were collapsing on him.
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>>558782951
stratz is so funny there's no way these scores are ever correct
like how the fuck is this a 0
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>>558774768
Thats his Q, thats a normal build.
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>>558784908
The thing with the stratz individual rating system is that it's not an assessment at the end of the game but it evolves as the game goes on so you maybe had a poor early & mid game and only peaked late. At least this is what explains poor scores in my experience
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>>558784908
>3 assists
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guys... I might play a game.... of turbo...... *dies*
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>>558785478
but the occasional turbo game is fun...
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>>558763232
>ember... le bad!
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>>558785478
when sneyking started playing hon competitively he was at 99% EM with over 3k matches played.
and now he's at TI.
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>>558785478
DONT DO IT YOULL GET RETARD DISEASE
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how do you not ban largo
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>>558785194
does it look like i had a poor game?
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Warlock is the most braindead nigger afk hero in the game but retards still can't land the bonds properly, use the heal at the right time or even micro the golem right
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>>558764308
It's probably like how sleeping between study sessions helps with memory, instead of pulling an all-nighter and still failing the test because you can't remember anything. Your brain frequently needs a break to do a little defrag and organise shit.
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I like dota but I can't bring myaelf to play it
what if I make a mistake and my teammates get mad at me and then I'm stuck with them for 90 minutes
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>>558789254
what kind of people play warlock in your opinions?
that's right, fucking retards and 70 year olds gramps
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>watching esports on gorgc stream
>he invites ammar
>have to mute because the brownoid esl babbling is unbearable
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>>558791302
this is when you buy 2 rapiers to shiw who's boss
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Why did I have 2 major deadlines this week and decide "hey let's try and learn Arc Warden"?
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>>558791736
so you can be a multitasker
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>>558763232
i quit the game when they made all his spells clunky for no reason
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>>558780274
ctrl + unbound key anon
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Why is right click techies still stronger than every other carry
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>>558782235
>you could probably get away with mapping this to just a single key
anon alt + ability key does this
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>I use M5 for all units, M4 for summoned, space for hero select + immediate center
Omg how did I not think of that ! Thanks. I had these on 321. My Deadlock setup is a bit like it actually (crouch/dash m4/m5 items 1234).
I'm going for it with 1234ZC for items. Changed a few things here and there like X to directional move (SF is a hero I want to practice too).
That'll be rough for a while but I was really not happy with my control scheme. Time to grief some turbos I guess.
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>>558794256
Woops, was meant for (You) >>558782235
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>all my Overwatch cases today were false reports of Scripting/Hacking for shitters who were just bad
Stop filing false reports you retards. They're a waste of my time. Just stick to Griefing/Feeding, or Role Abuse if you want to stick it to them.
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>>558794219
no that's self cast. autocast is for things like Drow's Frost Arrows.
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>>558794256
>>558794420
>Deadlock
based.
my directional move is when holding alt. I never use it either, but I should use my ctrl and alt modifiers more often.
you should include neutral items in your item hotkeys too. you need 4 minimum, 7 maximum. I typically don't put active items on 6/7 though so I never really cared to find better keybinds for them. the only time they get used is when playing supports and I just put wards there.
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how does anyone who plays heroes that get cucked by viper or huskar even gain mmr
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>>558795919
Just buy BKB Linkens?
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>>558795919
what hero doesn't lose to them?
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>>558796562
whoever I play against
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>>558796562
sniper
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>>558761624
It took me 5 minutes of trying to fix it and then it not connecting before I tried the Router.
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I lost control of my hero twice in two critical teamfights
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>>558795919
who still loses to huskar in current year
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gonna start playing ranked just so I kmow what role I'm getting
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>>558799971
based.
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>>558795467
>Deadlock
Yeah it's funny that my most played game since my long game is Deadlock which has nothing regarding micro managing units at all. Maybe its extreme information overload and tempo made me see DotA as way more "relaxing" (in a way) regarding decision making.
>my directional move is when holding alt.
That's why you don't use Alt for auto-cast and such like anon pointed out. If you don't use I'd recommend trying, I find it very convenient and played a fucklot of Drow Ranger games with it.
My neutral hotkey is V now. I switched a bunch of things around but just didn't mention them along many of the new settings.
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>>558792156
I wish I wasn't bad at multitasking but it is a challenge.
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They should make a set for Shadow Fiend where he's Chinese
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>>558764308
Naga is one of my most played heroes and I use all 10 control groups.
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>Get Low Prio because I had connection issues yesterday
>Anti-Mage and Lion go to the Dire Offlane because they're probably League players and think that's where Carries go on both sides
>I lock in Pos 5 Omni, end up having to quick switch to Pos 3 Omni in lobby
>Ping spikes randomly all game, still carry
>Still shit on them even DURING spikes
>We still lose
Still, carried with Omni-Knight.
So that's pretty cool.
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>>558803512
Also Monkey King was just straight trolling.
AFK by the throne for God knows how long, and his build...
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>>558803667
He's in low prio for a reason
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>>558801021
I use alt for self cast, it's a different thing than auto cast.
you can auto cast Ogre Bloodlust, but you can also self cast it.
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>>558803512
Omni is genuinely a solid pos 3. And tbf monkey probably saw AMs build and decided fuck it and just started meme
>>
how does death prophet mourning ritual (or delayed damage in general) interact with blade mail?

a.) it deals the original damage back to the attacker, ignoring the "delayed" part?
b.) it deals the reduced damage from it being delayed on your end?
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What should I be building on PA? Battlefury is pretty standard, desolator is standard too but I'm not sure if I should be building it because it seems like battlefury already gives plenty of damage plus cleave so it doesn't make a lot of sense to be buying an item that applies a debuff. Manta maybe? Butterfly? bkb obviously at some point in time, but maybe I should be gravitating towards an item that makes her tankier, maybe a skadi or something. What do you usually build on PA?
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Why is Chaos Knight a tiny tiny man if Abaddon is normal sized and still wearing a horse
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deathball brool patch
farming is completely unviable
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>>558804368
I know it's just, I wish he was a little less blatant about it so it looks like an honest mistake instead of genuine malice.
>>558804795
You can check Dotabuff for item builds.
BKB and Abyssal are good because it lets you cover her weaknesses instead of buffing her strengths.
Weaknesses being no form of lockdown and vulnerability to lockdown (Much like Anti-Mage and other melee carries like him)
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>>558804929
genuinely its cuz of WC3

chaos knight is based on a teeny tiny non-hero unit and Abaddon is based on Death Knight Arthas and so he's way bigger
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>>558804929
My headcanon is that chaos knight is actually the horse
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I gained so much mmr since I started muting everyone at the slightest sign of negativity.
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>>558804795
>should be building it because it seems like battlefury already gives plenty of damage
No it doesn't, BF gives shit damage. You have no idea how big the exponential damage deso gives you, go look at the graph how armor interacts with damage, if the hero goes negative armor they just melt.
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>>558805796
it just feels like PA is a late game hero and desolator is more of an early to mid game item, it doesn't scale very well.
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>>558804795
I almost always go battlefury -> deso -> bkb -> abyssal/satanic. Battlefury is not "plenty of damage", it's basically just a farming item. Deso is your actual damage item.
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>>558805985
Definitely satanic is a good choice because it gives her sustain in fights. But you need a bkb to actually be able to make full use of the satanic or else you just get locked down and focused. I'm not sure about abyssal, though. I mean, yes, she has no lockdowns, but she has slows and is pretty mobile during fights so it's not really an issue. The biggest issue PA has is that she's very squishy which is why I was thinking about building something on her that made her a bit tankier maybe.
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Now tell me the lore reason why my neccrophos has 3 sages masks and a dagon
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>>558806830
the masks power up the dagon
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>>558806325
>But you need a bkb to actually be able to make full use of the satanic or else you just get locked down and focused
Which is why I build Bkb right after deso like I said...
Abyssal VS satanic first is situational. I often get basher, then satanic, then finish abyssal. It really just depends on my teammates and what enemies heroes I'm against.
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>>558804795
Okay there is a huge misconception of what PA does as a hero and how to itemize in your post.

You need to look it as a triangle of needs for cores, scaling, survivability and kill potential.

Pa is pos 1 hero who excels at oneshotting heroes and maning up.

Scaling: Pa gets a steroid for farming in her blink plus dagger and ult makes her damage uptime really high, blur also helps tank ancients. Cons is she only hits one creep at a time.

This is why we go BF first item, gives you cleave to farm faster and mp regen to spam abilities against creeps. We go echo sabre on a bad lane or just skip this check if things go awful.

Kill potential: The hero shits damage, so after getting a BF we need to check if we need to survive during tfs or just do even more damage to snowball faster.

How does PA kill? By oneshotting a hero by blinking and critting before anyone can react and lock you down or escape. Deso checks all these marks, gives raw damage and minis armor, helps you take buildings which PA struggles with and even has a scaling component.

Skadi doesn't help you here, you want to kill them before hp regen kicks in as a factor and they can't get away with your dagger blink, skadi is for long skirmishes. This is why we prefer raw damage items over stars since they are more efficient numbers wise, butter is useless and we don't want speed steroids since blink already gives us all the attack speed we want. AC is bad because we don't get damage. Basher and Orchid are candidates after deso so heroes don't escape, nulifier too.

Survivability: We just said PA likes to oneshot heroes, and BKB fits perfectly on that framework, by the time BKB wears off the fight should be over or more manageable. You have blur so you are immune to physical and bkb is anti magic so you are basically untouchable, skadi just makes you tankier but doesn't enable you to go ham. Once people get mkb you should have satanic, the concept is the same you go in and not die.
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>>558745604
have this apu, he will be your friend
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>>558807567
>Echo Sabre on PA
wut

ChatGPT go home, you're drunk.
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>>558807567
Skadi doesn't go into your game plan, it doesn't help oneshotting everyone, it doesn't let you go unchecked in team fights. PA doesn't want stats.

In old dota we used to go sny after or before bkb as a filler item but dota is to optimized and there are better items options, you can't fit a sny after bkb, sny is your survivability item and we usually only get one per hero. You don't want bkb plus linkens or any of those combinations, only heroes with inbuilt survivability can get away with second item sny like juggr or lifestealer. If there is not a single stun, disable or slow, or its all single target bkb piercing you are allowed to skip bkb for a sny but thats rare. If you need the status resistance go abyssal after casual basher, if not just casual basher into satanic for dispel or nulifier for lockdown.

Yes deso is a more mid early item but its what allows PA to play the game and not be useless, its like skipping manta on specter or old PL diffu.

Go to demo and compare your damage without deso. Deso is the item that allows you to join fights after bf since its cheap, your first item after a greedy item such as bf is one that allows you to fight. (Not want, allow) Third item is the one you wanna fight with.
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>>558807868
Nobody wants your min 16 bf.
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>>558808325
No one wants your reddit-spaced AI slop opinions either.
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>more than 1 sentence = chatgpt
grim
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>>558807868
It's the 3k mmr 'take ice path level 1 on jakiro' autist again. He's the only one who bothers with these long drawn out posts. He clearly doesn't play the game and he's so tone deaf he might as well be an LLM
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>>558808702
>Paragraphs are reddit space
High school drop out...
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i wonder why frost DK isn't the most popular facet particularly in this very heal centric meta
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>>558809718
Because we want our cores to scale, take creeps and buildings, not be a glorified vessel.
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>>558809718
because you want him to actually kill something
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>>558803314
Yeah you're right and it feels really nice actually. I switched to ctrl + ZXC control group. Naga + illusion and the other 2 illus in a group. 3rd acts as a flex especially when 4th comes online. It's a lot less inputs. Don't think I'll ever get into playing Chen so I won't need more I reckon (unless Brew gets the void Panda back for some reason). Thx for making me think twice.
>>558804308
>you can auto cast Ogre Bloodlust, but you can also self cast it.
Alt modifier works for both toggling and self cast but prios self cast. Just put the setting on and switched some characters. Really nice actually could be useful on Oracle too, I'll use it. Does auto-casting Bloodlust really warrant a bind?? Can't think of another character that would care.
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>>558809150
The "old dota" comment makes it sound like it's one of the doomposting retards who don't play the game. Like the idiot who was saying people need to learn to re-buy fresh BKBs.
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>>558775206
>max stacks: 6 (8)
>PER STACK
>PER STACK
>PER STACK
Are you retarded?
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>>558804795
>so it doesn't make a lot of sense to be buying an item that applies a debuff
Deso is +55(?) damage + 60 extra damage at max stacks, and it applies minus armour that makes your physical damage more effective. In comparison, Daedalus is a 5k+ gold item with +88 damage with crits, so for PA who already has crits, Desolator is a bargain for extra damage, especially early game. It's a good item on PA. The problem is more about timing and per-game needs.

If you take like 12-14 mins to buy the Bfury and then 3-5 mins for Deso, you're pretty set for midgame broooooling. As long as you don't feed, just taking good fights and pickoffs with your team will get you stacks.
If you take like 18+ mins to buy the Bfury, then you might be too late for Deso and you are probably going to have to think of getting other shit like BKB instead, depending on the game.

I used to hate on Desolator for a long while for being a dead-end early game item like you but in the past few months, I changed my mind and started buying them on the usual heroes again. It's definitely still a good item.
Don't get Butterfly on PA though. I don't think it's worth the slot.
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>>558807567
>We go echo sabre on a bad lane
??
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>>558807567
>and even has a scaling component.
>deso scaling
joke post
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>>558803314
>>558810404
>Control groups are literally SAVED across characters and games
Wait... Wait wait wait wait... Hold on... This absolutely fucking changes everything??? Holy shit
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>>558811120
I have a hard time justifying buying desolator on late game carries especially if you are not getting enough farm early game to justify buying it and having it early to mid game. Feels like desolator falls off pretty massively after the mid game and at late game if you have a desolator in your backpack you are pretty much just wasting an item slot on nothing. Desolator is like an IQ test and late game it's actually pretty horrible and there are many items much better than deso. I'm not calling deso a bad item, it's good early to mid game but you are not going to be winning games with just a desolator. I'm thinking about an MKB mid game instead of a deso, seems like a good item since it gives damage as well as attack speed and plus a 80% chance to do extra damage.
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>>558810838
It's the same guy. He's also the 'x hero is a melee creep' guy
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>>558811653
setup control groups when demoing a hero and you'll be able to use them in game
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U mad bro?
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>>558811430
They added deso scaling like 5 years ago bro.
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>>558811880
Mkb is less damage than deso por PA and TA for more money.
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>>558811930
Omfg I'm queuing to play Brew right now lmao.
How many control groups do you dotards use unironically, any character specifics that pushed you to that number?
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>>558811880
This is by far the most retarded take in a dota threads in months. You do know PA can't crit mkb proc or that she doesn't want attack speed.
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>>558812683
I looked at the dotabuff item choices on PA and people are building it, though.
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>>558811880
>MKB (4700 gold)
>+40 Damage
>+45 Attack Speed
>80% to deal 70 magic damage and pierce evasion
>Desolator (3500 gold)
>+55 Damage
>-6 armor on target, which can include buildings
>+30 damage at max stacks
Please stop buying MKB, if you're not dealing with evasion. It is the objectively better right click item per gold.
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Problem?
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>>558812760
Yeah, by retards that don't know Nullifier is better at dealing with WR.
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>>558812641
at least 3, main hero, all units, and all units that aren't the hero
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>>558812952
why? windrun cant be dispelled.
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>>558812760
https://dota2protracker.com/hero/Phantom%20Assassin

10 % of games on a 40 timing window after you finish core items (bkb, deso, satanic) probably to deal with a butter hero. The only hero that its allowed to have an mkb as a core mid build is void and WR, everyone else is grief because the item gives you almost nothing.
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>>558813035
That's a level 25 talent.
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Every time I play against jug no one buys euls or ghost scepter, jugg just gets a free kill every time ult is up
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>>558813226
Get a euls or ghost?
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>>558813226
Such is life in Guardian.
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You could ancient jungle necro, why did they get rid of all the fun ?
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>>558813528
Because they didn't want mid to be carry 2. This is also the reason the added ancient satyrs.
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>>558813149
>>558812760
Also mkb is a shit item this patch because radiance is no longer an aura and we got shiv as tier 3 neutral.
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>>558811880
Deso is useful for burning down buildings too. It's not just a fighting item.

I also didn't say I get it on every hero, just the usual suspects, which means the heroes who traditionally got Deso. e.g. PA, Clinkz, Bounty Hunter, Weaver, TA, etc. who also are arguably not "late game carries" like AM or Medusa. More like snowballing midgame carries.

Yes, I'm joking about Bounty Hunter. Put your pitchforks down.
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>>558813751
>radiance is no longer an aura
What?
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>>558812793
why did every single dota video pre reborn had its contrast completely exploded.
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Is 6.3k MMR considered high rank?
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>>558814016
it's like top 3-4% or something
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>>558808840
>too smart to fall for AI hallucinations
>too lazy to profit off it
fuck.
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>>558813864
He's talking about the change where it no longer affects enemies and doesn't give them a miss chance anymore. It's just all evasion on the owner now. Burn aura is still there so his wording's a bit off.
I disagree with the Anon though and think it could still justify buying MKB. But it'll depend.
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>>558814532
No, it doesn't. Radiance ain't shit. It's a farming item. The shittiest farming item. And buffing it with a Talisman was IceFrog's biggest mistake.
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>>558813860
Weaver goes maelstrom and AM is not late game carry, he has the same timings as PA kinda.
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>>558814016
Pros call 13k people bad so you be the judge.
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>>558810404
no my original point was that I just use zxcvbn to toggle auto cast on qwerdf, but I could probably optimize that by going into each hero's specific keybinds and consolidate it down to a single keybind because I can't think of anybody who has more than 1 autocast ability.
if self cast toggles auto cast that's a setting I didn't know existed.
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>>558811653
yeah that's been a thing since dota 2 launched.
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>>558814675
d2pt disagrees with you there on Weaver
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>>558815132
Got me.
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>>558813528
>he never played jungle drow where you hatchet the trees around ancients and exploit the pathing to farm them without ever getting hit
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>>558814675
>AM is not late game carry
You always hear something new around here.
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>>558815342
he's a macro hero which is why he's only good in brackets where people don't have monitors.
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>>558815457
What retarded trench are you from, where people can't farm?
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>>558815254
I mean, I get why you would want Mjollnir on Weaver. I was there for the discussion we had a couple weeks ago. But seems like trends are changing.
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>>558816252
Mael is for farming. Guess Weavers are going for murder, instead.
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>>558815040
No, it hasn't been. Control groups were assigned to specific units and had to be redone whenever they were summoned back. I was very disappoint by this. Idk when it was implemented like that however, probably with all the new game unit orders options.
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Anyone else noticed that despite being a space goat leshrac isn't a draenei
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>>558814673
I agree I think radiance isn't worth it now radiance carries like naix abaddon and alch are better off with mjollnir. running in with the mjollnir active also creates so much space it's insanely underrated
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>>558817858
He doesn't have a futa cock so he's obviously not a draenei
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>>558818297
ok but imagine leshrac as a girl, as a futa with a big horsecock
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>>558814817
13k MMR is literally just a grind and nothing else.
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>>558818383
Dumb coomer degenerate. Go jerk off and come back when your head is clear.
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>>558815342
He is fully slotted by min 30, he has shit stat gains and a mediocre kit. If the game goes long everyone catches up.
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>>558823362
Medusa, stop posting.
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>>558823615
I mean if there is a Medusa fuck it it doesn't matter. He just doesn't scale very well.
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>>558815342
When was the last time AM was a late game manfight threat into serious carries
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>>558824007
Every time he does his job and doesn't let the enemy enter the late game with anything.
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>>558824178
Then he is not a late game hero, he justs into the late game 10 mins before anyone else.
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>>558824303
>delays your late game indefinitely
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>>558824007
AM vs Medusa
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>>558814675
>AM is not late game carry
dotard...
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bane is purple
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bane?
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>8 in a row on viper
yeah im spamming this shit until next patch
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You're supposed to pretend to be cool and enlightened and educated by saying the new wisdom of "anti mage farms faster than other hypercarries" and this then morphs into "actually anti mage isn't even good lategame he just farms faster" because you can point out that a troll warlord or a spectre might outmath him in raw numbers at 6 items with a moon stone and blessing
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>>558828030
That's literally what the other guy did, and he should shut the fuck up, instead.
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the thing about anti-mage is that if he mistimes his counterspell and fails to manfight, he decides whether he fights the other guy or not and there's nothing they can do about it
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What is the most boomer hero build I can do?
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>>558831457
support sven
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>>558831457
Skadi, Linkens, BFly, Rapier Medusa. Boomer enough for you?
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Played my first two ranked games today lads
lost em both
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Is it wrong to start unironically finding Lina's retard fire puns attractively endearing
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>>558831457
I tried blink euls on Shadow Fiend. I got fucking destroyed. I swear they changed the timing on his ult.
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>>558831457
Blink MoM Armlet Desolator Sniper
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>>558831607
rushing battlefury
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>really getting the urge to play
>can't because it's a bad time
Maybe I'll just go to bed early.
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>>558835407
ghoul hours is when REAL DOTO is played
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>>558831658
used to rush yasha skadi on dusa, was fun.
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Who could have forseen that the team with no hard crowd control and no tanky heroes would be food for a phantom assassin to buy 2 divine rapiers and think he's the hottest shit in the world
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It looks like the thread bully is finally gone. Do you think he regrets it?
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>>558836256
sorry 3 rapiers

our lina solo killed him and he instantly disconnected
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>>558836424
he reconnected and we lost the next fight
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>>558836256
>>558836424
I'm confused, whose team is Phantom Assassin on?
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>>558836360
thanks for announcing your presence
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Post 30 minute dota is such an awful fucking game
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>>558838026
issue is that in pubs it often turns into which side accidentally feeds and gives over a huge advantage.
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Anons, kind of a newfag, just had this argument with a guy on my team - enemy was PA, I was Drow. He said I was retarded because I was about to build MKB and Drow's ult gets past evasion. I read the ult thoroughly, it doesn't say evasion - it says defense. Was that guy retarded, or is he correct?
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>>558839606
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
*WHEEEEEEEEEZE*
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>>558839606
drow ulti procs goes through evasion. you can just read on liquipedia.
but it's only 40% so mkb isn't useless. but it's probably better to just get silver edge instead.
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>>558839606
The proc does have True Strike but remember that the ult can be disabled, e.g. when PA jumps on you, so there's nothing wrong with buying MKB.
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>>558839728
>>558839860
Alright I just tried her out in demo with an enemy pa with butterfly.
It goes through. Why does the ult descriptions say "her attacks go through the enemy's defenses and ignore base armor" but nothing about evasion? That's fucking crazy.

MKB? Then maybe that.. gigaorchid would be better
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>>558840065
>orchid
no
just get silver edge. it disables evasion and will frequently allow you to escape a jumping pa.
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>>558840040
the in-game descriptions is retarded, then
>>558840192
does silver edge disable butterfly? Or just actual abilities?
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>>558840192
Invisibility is invincibility
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I should have bought different items
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>>558840376
it disables passive abilities like PA's evasion, does nothing against butterfly
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>>558840376
silver edge attack disables hero passives but not items.
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>>558840065
>but nothing about evasion?
It's more like, it's coded that way to guarantee the proc does something because otherwise Drow would be fucking useless from all the procs doing zero damage.

Same reason Maelstrom procs pierce evasion, because they need to hit something and have a bounce starting point. They didn't HAVE to code it that way but they chose to so it's less useless.

>gigaorchid
Bloodthorn is a nice item but Drow will rarely get close enough to use it on anyone, and when PA jumps on you, it'll be with BKB on so it's doubly pointless.
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does mason even like dota?
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>>558841172
luvs it
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I never know when to twin gate
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>>558839606
He is correct but a precaution mkb is not the fucking worse if you think you cant do anything about her jumping to you. Linkens unironically feels better in this scenario.
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>>558840065
Press Alt when reading skills. It says there.
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>>558841724
Ehh, Linkens is not great against PA. She'll always Q+W combo you so it's not like it'll stop her from jumping on you.
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>>558839606
as somebody with an 80% winrate with over 100 games on Drow in the last year, that would be a 6th item that I would consider and probably not even purchase.
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Who's prettier, Drow or Windranger?
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>mid pa with BF
>hard support axe
>invoker supports that keeps using tornado with 0 follow up, messing all teamfights

No wonder your game is fucking dead.
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>>558840530
>>558840595
thanks
I guess it's kinda situational then - something you build against PA specifically for evasion.
but what if she just builds butterfly? guess there's the ult still
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>>558845103
mkb is basically only for when enemies has evasion, not worth it as a damage item otherwise.
it works against butterfly so that's the most common use case.
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>my 100% free farm naga goes manta into 2 butterflies into dying to techies
>supports are being retarded fucking feeders and not buying support items

and game is unwinnnable
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>>558843303
for me WR because im a sucker for redheads
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>>558843303
Default? Drow.
Arcana? They're both pretty and I can't choose.
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>>558845843
like fuck whats the point of playing a 45 min game when you CANNOT WIN because your carry is a retard?

Doesn't matter how well we do anything, carry will take free farm into feeding with stupid items
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>>558845103
A PA that builds Butterfly is asking to lose the game.
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>>558846150
have you considered buying items and then giving them to the carry
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>>558846187
why
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>>558846406
>hero that gets infinity attack speed on blink strike when she decides to go in
>and playstyle is about chipping unless there's a burst opportunity
>or buy an item that's about sustained dps
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>>558846406
See the discussion above in the thread from the PA perspective, starting from >>558804795

Generally an AGI carry would love to have huge amounts of +AGI and evasion, but PA already has the evasion and the enemy team would've bought shit to counter it. Generally MKB as first choice, and alternates as second choice. So the evasion from Butterfly does nothing, and if you wanted extra damage for a stat stick, you could've gotten any other item for the same benefit or better for the 6k gold you spent on the Butterfly. Something like Skadi would give you more survivability, Manta gives you dodges and some dispells, etc.

PA needs like 5 other items to buy ASAP to carry and Butterfly is not on that short list. So by the time you buy Butterfly on PA, it's like item #6 in the lategame and taking up a slot that could've gone for a different item with more utility for PA. Or you skipped a necessary item on the short list for Butterfly that doesn't do shit for you.

If PA is buying Butterfly, she's either stomping real hard, or griefing, or going for a meme build (aka. griefing).
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Buying Butterfly on PA because the enemy team bought zero MKBs and Bloodthorns and other True Strike shit, and winning because of it would be a big-brained meme though.
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>carry doesn' t listen
>full map control, won't rosh
>dies hitting a tier 2 solo
>they get rosh
>we team wipe them
>dies after they respawn hitting tier 3's

game can't be won
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>>558812641
As I said for Naga i unironically use the max amount. Once I set it up and got used to it, it made other micro heroes a piece of cake (except Visage since I cant figure out how to remap the birds abilities and it keeps fucking me) and I don't have to retink the keyboard layout each time I find there's a new unit combination for a hero I want.

For every micro hero you want at a minimum 3: hero, summoned units, all units.

For brew I have, and suggest for you, 3 control groups for each of the brewlings (6 total) it feels much better than fucking around with tab. I also have another 3 for each group of 2 brewlings, but you might not need that. Just play a bit and figure out what groups of units you naturally want to control on the fly.
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does windranger turning invisible mean I need to give up an entire item slot just so she can't decide that I die whenever Im on her screen
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>>558849790
Yes. She gave up an item slot for an agh's.
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>My SF stopped playing because he said Jugg sf is grief
What, nigga this is 5k mmr what the fuck. Dota plus said we were 90% to win I had a 8k lead to the other carry and suddenly he doesnt want to play.
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>>558850420
that's not giving up an item slot...
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>>558849790
A Nullifier is not a waste of an item slot.
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>>558850698
but you can't target her if she's invisible...
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Hmm today I shall play Marci mid and I shall buy battlefury as my first item because I don't have a facet so I need something to help me farm
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>get an idiot I previously muted on the enemy team, for once
>it's a dazzle
>he went shadow blade
>and Orchid
>he starts invading our jungle solo
>drop a sentry just to catch him
>fight went bad, because his teammates were behind him
>then catch him again, this time he dies alone for nothing
>his team loses rosh, and a t2, but gets teamfight win (PA outcarries Jugg)
>catch him AGAIN, like an idiot
>his team loses another rosh, then rax, then game
I wonder if this dipshit understands that he literally cost his team the game. Shallow Grave PA is the fucking worst.

>check Dotabuff
>4 pages of Shadow Blade Orchid Dazzle and Agh's MoM Willow
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oh boy I can't wait to play venomancer so I can slow people to still be faster than I am and do literally nothing else
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>>558850825
That's why you get her before she presses E.
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Anons, going 12 wins/7 losses winrate with spectre as a newfag at guardian II.
I always sell boots for sixth item - is that retarded or a good move? Spectral dagger gives superior pathing, I have my ult for TP, and I need damage and that final piece of survivability.
I noticed that I ALWAYS have the phylactery - I favor phylactery instead of boots - retarded or does it work? I make everyone else slow instead of making myself fast.
I upgrade it into khanda when enemy has strong passives. Always skadi when there's thick enemies/regen. BKB/linken's - that leaves abyssal blade, radiance + either HoT or something for attack speed.
Should I keep doing this, or is it losing me games? I sell boots last, ofc, when the big final fights begin, early game I always have boots.
I don't have to run because I'm so overfarmed at that point that everyone runs from me
I basically play spectre like this: always phylactery first, then radiance - then I jungle and occasionally pick off lone supports and teamfight with my ult and TP back to the towers near jungle and keep farming, then I target their disabling support - and once he's dead, I tell my team to go for the towers, repeat until throne
Or I wait for them to kill one guy - then I haunt their support or carry if I'm strong enough, then we push
Any more tips? Critiques on the playstyle?
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>>558853765
>I always sell boots for sixth item - is that retarded or a good move?
Its fine, you always sell boots as carry.
>I noticed that I ALWAYS have the phylactery - I favor phylactery instead of boots - retarded or does it work?
Retarded, the item does nothing past min 30. Khanda is also a shit item.

You will 1v9 at that mmr because nobody knows how to play and global abilities are op, just farm and join fights you can win, thats all.

I can watch a replay if you want.
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I wish i had a crystal maiden gf to go on adventures with, life isnt fair bros.
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>teammates go in like fucking retards
>die
ok
>I initiate when one person is still dead
>teammates just sit afk
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>misclick my super euls on teammate called by axe

oops
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>It's a "Clinkz solo's the game because nobody can ward" episode
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>>558853913
Thanks anon
I'd show you a replay but I got doxxed here
Not that there's any personal info on my account, but felt weird, I keep the replays private since then, no replays on dotabuff or whatever
but thanks for the offer
But I just won an unwinnable game with feeding mid by simply telling my team not to fight while I and they farm - we won, I kept picking off the carry while he was farming, mid guy was basically solo and I had good teammates
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my ranked calibration mat hes have been in legend so far
is that good bros?
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>>558856423
If you are not building manta as specter you might as well not be playing specter btw.
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>>558858219
Why? I build it only when there's silence
Hmm... I guess extra damage when haunting someone alone, right? The innate?
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>>558859508
Its your biggest source of damage, they get all your passives including desolate, its what allows you to haunt delete a support or ranged carry, the hero is not even remotely playable without manta.
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ww3 bros, i hope you are all ok
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>>558848942
The bigger brained move would be to just buy rapier
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>>558795008
works on my machine
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>>558812641
hero
courier
manta illusions
naga illusion 1 and 4 (4 comes later so usually one illu is with hero)
naga illusions 2 and 3
select all units except hero
select all units
phantom lancer tanky illusion from w
each individual meepo
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>>558815342
you are shit at the game if that is new information to you
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>>558814862
>if self cast toggles auto cast that's a setting I didn't know existed.
this is default behavior and your keybinds are horrible
turn on double click selfcast like a human being and stop griefing by using alt for other stuff
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I know the game is a lost cause when I hear 5 minutes into the game
>We need to beat Alche early before the late game
We are fucking Jakiro, Juggr, AA, SF and puck what the fuck are you talking about, what late game Alche has no late game past 30 minutes.

We lost once Alche reached his min 46 timing because my entire team threw a tantrum and stopped playing the game. My puck finished the game with 14k gold. This is the 5k bracket, you never leave the trenches.

How do people get to 5 by saying such retarded shit.
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>>558853765
Stop buying phylactery on carries when you could be buying a farming item instead like battlefury or radiance. considering that you're new you probably don't have farming patterns on lock right now so phylactery is only going to make your radiance timing at 25min which is hindering all your other timings. I would personally recommend you to play a stronger laner than spectre to have a strong early game and capitalize on that but if you can manage then it's all good
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>>558870859
Phylactery is core on specter shut the fuck up, it's what allows the hero to function and be playable
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>>558869859
>he thinks 5k is high
lmao
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>>558862393
my pubs should be a touch quieter today
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>>558872576
Its not high but I expect people to understand Alche is not a fucking late game hero
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>>558849340
I honestly thought you were exaggerating as a joke when you said you were using all 10 groups. That's completely justified now that I know it's saved. I don't know where you find all those binds but that must be really useful.
>For every micro hero you want at a minimum 3: hero, summoned units, all units.
That's sort of a default to even start playing micro heroes. Control groups are meant to expend possibilities further to me.
>>558866138
Interesting, thanks. I went for 4 control groups binds for the same reasons you mentioned (all meepos and Naga+illu/double-illu/manta/4th illu)
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>>558872716
it's not like alch falls off a cliff lategame, you're still gonna die to a single stun from him late if he builds right
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>>558872825
the problem is so does he
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>>558872765
the only thing i dont have bound is illusion rune illus because that is too niche and can be done by manual selection if you dont want you manta illus in the same place
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>>558873669
Right. I've noticed a control group keybind will select whatever summons aren't in a group by default if its allocation aren't here. That should work to select rune illusions granted you haven't summoned everything but that'd probably take more time to think than just raw select them.
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>>558873482
>the guy with a billion regen and bkb dies in 1 seconds
uh huh
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>>558874224
Forget what I said I'm tripping, it doesn't do that. I'd swear that happened but nope. I just put all my bottom key rows to control group binds, 10 it is lmao.
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Did the rest of the casters and analysts for DreamLeague vote Slacks off the show? They seemed like they hated having him on the panel last season and even bullied him a bit.
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>>558876870
nobody likes that bald faggot, especially when he goes "YEAH, BUT DID YOU HEAR ABOUT DEADLOCK THOUGH?????" every 2 minutes
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>>558874882
his stat gain is among the worst in the game, especially agi
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>>558877307
I think he's funny. In the early years I hated him with a burning passion but he's refined his act and became a good host, and interviewer. The cutaway segments and games he does are fun too, and I even liked his DHL commercial he was surprisingly good in it.

Last season was just odd how they were piling on him, it's like how children act when they are bullying the weird kid. Even Sheever was calling him stupid, which is surprising because they seemed to get along well when hosting together.
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my favorite hero lifestealer picked in esports :)
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What if they delete buyback, lotus orb, crimson, pipe, make bkb have a 130 seconds cooldown, delete glimmer cape, delete aeon disk, make refresher cost 10k gold
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>>558879897
nerf buyback (longercooldown),
delete glimmer or rework glimmer
everything else if fine
aeon disk is not even difficult to deal with
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sex with lina
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>>558879231
but that means he wont get buffed
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>>558880470
lifestealer is good as is the issue is that he's outscaled by how modern dota is because he's a tanky damage over time frontliner which is the polar opposite of your clinkz, SF, TA. he's hard to balance because if you buff his flat out dmg he becomes broken
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>built in mobility
>built in bash
>build in silence
>built in mega lifesteal ulti
>built in fucking parry
good hero mr frog very cool
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>>558881338
Yeah nudota heroes all have insane kits but it culminates with kez since he's allowed to have 8 different abilities. Ringmaster and Hoodwink are great even after they've been nerfed, Muerta does insane damage, Largo is broken on pos3 with a good team. On the opposite take heroes like Chaos Knight, Naix, NS or Bane. It's like they come from a different video game or something,
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I fucking hate nature's prophet in pub since the end of jungling. It doesn't work as a support, it doesn't work as a carry, all it offers is the ability to teleport everywhere to be the worst version of another hero there. It doesn't help that the most picked facet is also a pure noob trap.
I don't deny that the hero can work in a proper team, like io or underlord, but when you just roll 4 other random people, you need to bring something reliable to the team.
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>>558879897
>make games even longer
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I'm 7k MMR and I still am completely lost what to do as support most of the time.
Like the majority of the times 1-3 is farming the entire map and I can't get any farm, so I either just sit behind one of the cores to protect them or do some super safe warding. I have no idea how you even get farm as a pos4 nowadays.
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>>558883181
If all else fails if your NP is any good and your team is getting rolled they can at least split to throne and give you a chance to comeback. But I agree he doesn’t really do shit as a support during the laning phase for you as a carry or off unless he’s actively trying to play for you which most np players don’t and share a brain cell
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can my mid snipers with fuck heug leads not use it to buy phylactery aghs ty
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>>558883735
honestly usually shadowing your core in those scenarios is the play, but you should always try to force playing for objectives because most cores are content with gpm maxxing otherwise
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I build Diffusal Blade on Anti-Mage
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>>558884040
I feel like the problem is that if you try and make plays or gank someone during these periods the entire enemy team will instantly TP to help whoever you try and gank.
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>>558883735
Gank and farm enemy jungle
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>>558884212
well yeah but that's the problem with playing support is that you're at the mercy of your cores' willingness to play dota instead of playing PvE in woods.
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>>558883735
You get gold and experience from stacking camps that's where the gold comes from, and de-warding, and some courier snipes.
That's the problem with dota players everyone is so fucking greedy all the damn time. Pos4 farm is just clearing a wave or camp when your carry is not near and it's safe to do so without getting ganked. After laning phase both supports are supposed to be constantly moving, winning on vision, giving information, saving your carries while they farm in risky positions, buying smokes to gank and invade the enemy's side of the map, stacking. It pisses me off to see my pos 4 or 5 farming forest creeps when the rest of the team is fighting in the enemy jungle.
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>>558883735
>so I either just sit behind one of the cores to protect them or do some super safe warding
this is what you're supposed to do
>I have no idea how you even get farm as a pos4 nowadays.
You don't
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>>558884201
And blink dagger
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>>558884494
itemization is also an issue
the opposite team's support will have a force or euls while our pos4 will be halfway through his aghs. this breaks or makes games
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>>558884629
No, that's just dumb
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Why would I stack a camp if it's just going to get cleared by the enemy team anyway?
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>>558885186
you can place wards to see where the enemy team is.
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>>558885437
did you really think this was an answer to the question and/or some big own
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WHERE IS THE HOTKEY TO SHIFT QUEUE ACTIONS
WHAT IS IT CALLED
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>>558884663
Yes 100%. I don't know how people sit and watch high mmr players all day and don't notice what the supports are doing. Supports heroes are what wins the games, carries are only effective for a brief window during the mid game. Early game and late game is about supports not being idiots and saving their three idiot carries.
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>>558885526
>stack camps
>place wards
>kill opponents if they try to steal your camps
what's it like being in pisslow?
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>>558886205
you want me to solo kill enemy carries as a support?
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>>558886360
are you stacking in the enemy jungle or something?
is your team not AFK jungling?
why do shitters always have an excuse?
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>>558879897
why yes i love watching enigma farm bkb refresher every game and singlehandedly win the game because there is no counterplay to blackhole
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>>558885186
Are you not communicating to your team that the camp is stacked? You can just ping it and the game will do it for you.
That's like asking
>Why would I go on a lane if i'm just going to die and feed the ennemy carry anyway
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>>558885746
we just dont know
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I GOT AN MVP!!!!!!!!!
in a game with dcs
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But what if I blinked in and then replaced the blink dagger with another item in my backpack
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>>558892130
you probably get kekked in that second you took to swap
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>>558892705
n-nuh uh...
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start the game
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>>558893773
paizuri with lina and lanaya
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>>558893773
When are they properly making specter's facets be haunt/shadow step?
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pretty crazy that SAP is sponsoring dota with so much support
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uninstall this garbage game and play deadlock
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>>558897315
this chud aint convincing anyone of anything
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>no God of War hero
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>>558897315
I 6v6 just feels worse than 5v5
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Need Naga fish pussy in my mouth...
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>>558896785
they're sponsoring liquid overall, not just dota in particular
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>>558897567
facet
>we must be better men
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>>558898308
He never said that
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>>558898269
visa sponsors liquid too, but their brand isnt being displayed in game
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>>558898040
mercury poisoning
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>want to play support
>keep getting core
>every single fucking support is a retard who doesn't know how to fucking lane or play their hero
>enemy supports are always crackshot expert supports who know what they're doing with multiple force staves euls and other shit
>my supports sit afk behind tower and "rush" a 40 min aghs and aeon disk and never buy wards
>lose miserably
I don't want to play carry/mid/offlane. Just let me buy the wards, PLEASE.
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why does pos 4 just abandon the lane in ranked
never had this experience whwn I was playing offlane in shitlo unranked
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Why does phoenix pay hp to cast
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>>558900209
then queue for support bro?
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>>558897315
it doesn't launch on steam deck anymore and there's not enough sun to use my desktop.
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>>558902474
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>pick pugna
>use ward in team fights
>win
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>>558902474
can't you modify the launch options to force it to run on steamdeck?
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what are some ranged offlane heroes
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>>558903730
yeah I was doing that before. it crashes trying to load the hideout ever since the recent major update, with new patrons and heroes.
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Consider Traxex.
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>>558903860
razor (good hero)
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I play one turbo game before hopping on rankes
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>>558904070
sex with traxex
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>>558904368
i play one turbo game before i play more turbo games
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>>558907089
patrician
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>>558907089
gross
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>>558907089
this you?
https://themercury.co.za/lifestyle/health/2026-02-24-watch-michael-phillips-breaks-silence-on-living-with-worlds-smallest-penis/
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>>558904070
Kit rework when
Bring back the old ult that instakilled creeps
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>>558901349
I ran out of tokens.

Fucking shitty-ass pos 4s are the reason we can't have nice things.
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>>558893773
To be fair, Naga and PA have skins that make them much more "buxom", so it's like like valve are against them being as big as you want.
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Rylai Moon
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>no iranians in my games for the next week at the very least
thank you orange man
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>>558896574
I hate that you can't Reality out of fights any more. Without that she's just a lamer version of dawnbreaker.
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>>558915542
I am putting Spectre x Dawnbreaker in my comms ideas
thank you
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>>558915254
they still have internet
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>>558914945
The workshop submission for that PA skin bordered on BBW territory, they edited it down before accepting it.
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>>558915942
she thicc
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>>558915942
>game has a literal queen of sex as a character
>boobs are bad
its not like this game is played by 30yos.
This is why your game is dead.
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>>558575082
This was over 8 years ago
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>>558916105
Mordred does not look like that though, she's a slim woman with finesse. If you want a slampig, add a slampig character.
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>>558915942
Her legs are comically fat there.
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>>558915942
enemy team will feed her
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GG is reserved for when your opponents played well. Don't just post GG because the game is over.
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>>558915942
PA should come out of jungle at 40 mins looking like this.
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>>558917039
i only type it after uncompetitive shitstomps
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>>558917039
gg basically means "game ended, pls end, end pls, end end end"
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>Stomp of a loss
>2+2 same players on respective teams again
>Stomp again
>One still returns for the third match
>Again
>Not only does the matchmaking put one of them with me for the fourth time, but it also adds in another zero kill retard from the third loss
Yay for matchmaking...
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mfs picked a phys comp into pugna first pick
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i guess you niggas cant cry about iran players anymore at this point
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>>558915239
>Ice is nice
how can she get away with this?
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its always a bad time when pit lord is meta because the average meta picking retard has no clue how to play him
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Thoughts?
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>>558921270
hes literally the easiest hero in the entire game
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feels bad being the third wheel. I play with two of my friends and they always talk over/ignore me. idk why they even invite me anymore, i guess its cuz i carry hard
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>>558922437
that would be dk
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i lost 2 bad games
why queue weekend
good night
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>>558926795
>>558926795
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>>558925940
I fed as silencer for 10 minutes then won

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