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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2
>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/
>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2
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Buff Hoodwink
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you very much for your continued support!
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lina pickers are so bad lmao
like wdym you have a free lane but your ending kda is 2/7/5
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NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER!
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hows all this passive dmg even possible
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>>558595934
If my pos4 picks mirana, I fucking hope he's puting his first point in arrow. What, you want a support who can only jump, or throw a shitty nuke that empty his mana pool and does nothing except kill creeps?
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>not a support player
But when I played Mirana I went Q => E => Q => W
If we couldn't trade much I'd go arrow first so I could arrow the ranged creep or the hard camp.
I think leveling up arrow unless you've got setup is grief because no matter how practiced you are you're gonna miss arrows.
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>>558609285
>Tortelini sold out to a betting site
Ah
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>>558609285
says hes ancient 1 on his stream
so 4k
and like you can only specialize in so many heros, pros/high mmr build certain ways because thats how they play the game
Not necessarily want to go potm w, then dodge lange/arrow ranged creeps/etc
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>>558587383
what the fuck are you the deadlock fag who plays not enigma
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>>558575449
here, take it
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>>558624191
Rylai is so fucking hot
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>>558626771
She is actually quite cool
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When you report someone and then get the message that action has been taken at their account what usually happens to them? Low priority queue? Reported someone got matched with them immediately after, did the same shit so reported them again. Valve Said action taken against them twice
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>>558627263
They lose some BC thats it. If they are repeat offenders they will get low priority even with high BC.
In short nobody almost gets punished ever but it is exponential, they can go from 12k to 6k really fast while climbing back might take a year of no typing.
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Lifted tails
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its my birthday today and id really appreciate if (You) posted some deer :)
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>Offlane picks undying
>nothing wrong with this
>he doesn't spam decay at lane
>puts his tombstone in front of enemies
nearly made me mad, the entire point of picking offlane undying is to dominate lanes with decay spam
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>>558637940
It's over dude, there's no new deer and there won't be forever
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>>558637940
happy birthday
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my nigger axe is buying shroud over bkb or pipe
end my life
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never seen a bigger carry diff
we were winning but this guy just kept dying to random shit
in the time the PA bought 3 rapiers (after dying and dying) this mf bought exactly 0 items, never got an aghs, has a mf disperser for some reason and a swift blink recipe over buyback
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Why is Bondage the far and away superior facet for QoP? Her lifesteal is real, generally MOSTLY makes up for the damage she takes, and it increases her farm and kill potential by a ton. I mean, it's a free Kaya from the start of the game, surely good high level players would pick it over the "safe" facet to flex if nothing else, right?
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>right hand half paralyzed
>can still play warlock and win games
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>>558633512
It's fine, the ward is insane, it's really a second ult. I think its good with the diffu/maelstrom build since you don't use the crit as much and you can run with the team early and take rosh towers and tormentor.
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>>558655452
if the enemy pos 1 or 2 natures profit is 15-0 at 10 minutes and you need pike as soon as possible (buying quelling blade would be better still but if you have to ask you are too much of a brainlet to eat a tree)
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>>558655452
Its deeper than that. Its Dragon lance vs yasha and if Yasha then its Dragon Lance vs Manta.
Dragon lance vs Yasha is just fight now versus farm, you might go dragon lance early in lane after treads if you feel the dragon lance will keep you laning.
Dragon lance vs Manta is similarish. Dragon Lance is fight now and Manta is more farming with more ms, agi and split but Manta does allow you to fight too thanks to the str gain, damage with ilus and the dispel might enable you to fight now.
Dragon lance is cheaper than manta.
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>>558662383
I never said I was good at it :^}I played 12-ish years ago, but then sorta moved to WC3Sc2 (casually, I'm not some sort of grandmaster), back then I did also play Chen/visage but they where support only and lycan was a trench dogshit hero that existed to dumpster bads who cant handle split push.
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>>558637940
hbd anon
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>>558668768
Squirrel
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>>558616898
The channel is my fulltime job so I don't really consider myself a NEET, but I guess you could call it that.
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>>558672985
Beastmaster is a summon hero with only 1 summon
Half of his kit is dedicated to buffing his minions, and then all he gets is the boar. Helm may as well be an Aghs item for him, It's one of the hero's abilities gated by gold.
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>>558674073
>run small youtube channel for 5 months with no sponsors until like 2 videos ago
>can now quit job
Youtubers and streamers make fucking insane money and I'm tired of all of them pretending how poor and inconsistent and sad their lives are
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>>558674538
I am not rich by any measure. I also started after losing my previous job, so I was already unemployed.
>>558676313
I don't really jerk off to Dota heroes.
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anyone stop playing some boring but good heroes because its "too easy"?
like i dont play lina or qop mid anymore, ursa carry etc
this used to be AM in the beta and i still don't play him
doesnt matter how nerfed or buffed they are
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this is grief right
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I love sheever so much it's unreal
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>teammate picks core Mirana
>lv 30 hero mastery
>they skill arrow lv 1
>always uses it on a creep so they have ZERO presence in lane
>doesn't even try to last hit
>stands there afk after arrow
>think they're timing a Q or something but the wave dies while they do nothing
>gets mad and pings me when I take the last hits they're wasting
>enemy duo is two melees but there is zero threat from diving Mirana so they punch her over and over again
>Mirana never fights back, always slowly walks away from dives until it's too late because she's saving Leap for Dota 3 or something I don't fucking know, and Q for the next creep wave
>never uses arrow on an enemy running away with low HP
>never uses Q when the enemy pulls the wave because????????
>lose lane
>lose game
>run into about 20 different Miranas like this (I started a list after #5)
>latest game was ruined by pos 1 Mirana
WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST?!!?!?!
HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
HOW ARE THEY HAVING FUN DOING THIS????
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>>558682270
el retardo stop posting
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now watch the retarded 3k mmr autist faggot shoot down the d2pt consensus again
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where'd you go nigger tranny? Hello?
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>>558681412
i've evaluated that acc buyers on euw are far more common and therefore will be going back to russia
like what the fuck is this offlane
its like i mback on bnet
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>>558684372
you can build essentially anything on him
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Do they seriously not put up VODs for dl anymore
The stream cut off before Mouz Aurora and they only post highlights on their channel
Meanwhile the "panel" is just making cookies
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imagine going 0-7 with scripts playing the game for you
holy shit russians are so despicable
feel free to throw some reports https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199681593792/
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>>558686440
Is this run by ESL or whatever? I heard that they deleted all past VODs and don't post much recently. Probably some weird attempt to maintain a content monopoly or something. Just go make your own VODs using the replays.
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>>558575082
>that OP
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another great luna with no carry items
farming for 50 min yet cant even manfight a supp1
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these fucking carry diffs are INSANE
FREE FUCKING FARM
3-4-2 IN 50 MINUTES AND NOT A SINGLE GOOD ITEM ON HIM
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Cope+Seethe+Mald+L+Ratio+No bitches+No paper+Ur ugleh+Yo Mama+You fell off
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>>558701924
yess
fridge bodied women like her and nattea are what turns me on the most. i cant get behind the bikini model look anymore. give me a 32 years old doughy but not fat fridge bodied mid with a well proportioned enough face but doesnt look like she particularly takes care of her looks . thats where beauty lays
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how is she so lewd
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>>558707574
Stack camps for your cores.
Get kills.
In some cases you can get a farm aid after your first item. For instance, as skywrath pos4, I usually do 2 null talismans, arcane boots, rod of atos, and then get my shard, which will clear waves and camps very quickly. As ogre, you can get good mileage from midas.
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>For instance, as skywrath pos4, I usually do 2 null talismans, arcane boots, rod of atos, and then get my shard, which will clear waves and camps very quickly. As ogre, you can get good mileage from midas.
this a prime example of those bot pos4 players people complain about
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>>558708730
are more of his aghs nerfs needed?
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oh well oh well cant win every game huh
supps gotta feed 20 deaths in 10 min
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truly the most epic performance ive ever seen
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Could someone expain pos 1 to me
so my support is supposed to pull the creep wave into a camp, but i'm not supposed to kill the camp, i'm supposed to lose half my health to creeps under tower while the tower fucks up my last hits?
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another classic "carry on my team"
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>>558678243
6.6kish, just lost my Immo rank again lmao
>>558702780
I post full-res unreleased fanart and I've teased future videos, IDK how else to clarify that it's me.
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>>558717560
I jerk it to the sounds of a babbling brook and pure wind rushing through the trees.
>>558718040
Wanted a hero as the channel's mascot, realized any existing hero would come with connotations, chose a non-existent fan design that's just extant enough for people to recognize. A lot of people in the first few months were surprised to learn that her design is based on Pugna.
>>558718206
Have you heard my accent?
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>>558713569
>while the tower fucks up my last hits?
This part specifically is a skill issue. Towers will hit melee creeps 6 times before they're in last hit range (ranged creeps 3 times). Just learn to time it. Some creeps will die to tower if left alone because of RNG, some will get into last hit range. You have to watch and hit the former type twice so you can get the last hit.
You're also allowed to drag/kite the creep wave further back instead of tanking them. But make sure to not pull them into the pulled wave or your creeps will stop and move straight for the wave and make everything 10x worse. Your pos 5's job is to help manage the creep wave but as pos 1, it's your job too. You have to learn how to handle the creep wave even when you're alone.
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>>558713569
>so my support is supposed to pull the creep wave into a camp
No, he is supposed to keep wave under tower by any means, pulling every time can fuck this.
You can last hit and deny but your effort better be in the enemy creeps.
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Just kinda retarded at this point
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>>558705980
I love her so much it's crazy
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comfort me, chat
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>>558736194
I don't believe you.
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He is considered one of the strongest pos 1 right now
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>>558742775
LIAR
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>>558743251
I didn't say the strongest, he has fallen off a bit in ESL but he was picked a lot in the tourney before that.
He is literally really good in pubs if you know what you are doing, really hard to throw lane when you have a lvl 1 orb that hits for 90 and doesn't trigger creep aggro.
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>lose 200 MMR
>thanks, POS 4 ""supports""
>queue back in to recover
>get paired up with shitters I previously muted
>thanks, Matchmaking
>queue back in, again
>disconnected
>reconnect
>disconnected
>reconnect
>repeat
>get an abandon, a loss, and -25 MMR
Thanks, Gaben.
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>>558747201
>Just had to abandon my ranked match to reboot my router because the ping went to 2000
>It might just be a server issue
I'm mad.
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How come white people don't play dota?
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>>558751792
Not him, but basically
>obvious meme picks that don't work
>retard builds that don't work
>team doing the "suicide 1 by 1 for no reason" shtick
are poor quality games.
Any game where my team cooperates and don't run around like chickens instead of taking a T2 or a torm is a good game, even if it's a loss.
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>Lose a game with a retard sperging because he don't like me building greaves on a tanky offlaner
>Get matched against him next
>Lose again with a couple of absolute moron on my team
That is tilting as fuck
>only constant is you
Yeah and that's why i have >60% winrate on my recent games, but shit happens
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>>558757191
I'm pausing your ability to post.
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>>558760991
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i havent played ember for like 2 years and there's a reason why
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>Came back after a year or so break
>Decide to practice Naga Siren
>Somehow my micro control is magnitudes better than it used to be
I'm not sure what caused this. It's like I'm way more serene and methodical, focusing more on form rather than being quick which makes everything way more smooth. I've never realized one's mindset could be this impactful for mechanics.
Regarding micro, do you dotards use control groups? I've noticed assigned groups are kept whenever Naga recasts illusions (I'm 100% sure it used to not be the case a few years back). I've assigned them to ZXCV (easier to reach with CTRL) but always do select_hero > tab > tab > tab. I'm wondering if I should ditch them since that'd be nice item keybinds but maybe I should push myself to use them.
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I'd be more worried about being an avatarposter and attentionwhore, shilling your own shit in the middle of 10 minute videos, and starting at 3 $.
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when does my carry start building damage?
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>>558775206
the green flying menace is really fun though
im playing 1v3 or 1v4 mid every game
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>>558764308
playing more games makes you better at games in general. I was peaking when I was constantly hopping between dota, wow, d2, cs, wc3, sc.
once they added the options to bind
>all summoned units
>all controlled units
I stopped using control groups.
I use M5 for all units, M4 for summoned, space for hero select + immediate center, instead of the old double tap F1, holding ctrl issues orders to all units, but I don't use this one very often.
assigned groups have saved for the lifetime of dota 2 I think.
1234567 are items now.
I use zxcvbn to toggle autocast, but you could probably get away with mapping this to just a single key if you wanted to go into all the heroes who actually have autocast abilities and individually bind them.
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I've been losing a lot lately and it's making me really angry and depressed. I just don't get my teammates when it comes to how they place themselves on the map and the plays they maeke, their refusal to take rosh and torm when it's a perfect moment, their stalling around AFKing under a tower waiting for a brool. I just can't anymore, it wasnt like this before. I feel like I've been sent to some kind of hidden bot pool
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And I'm not complaining about my rank, it's not an MMR thing, it's a teammate quality issue. It's like they're playing against me now, before I could get them to play the map
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>>558782951
stratz is so funny there's no way these scores are ever correct
like how the fuck is this a 0
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>>558784908
The thing with the stratz individual rating system is that it's not an assessment at the end of the game but it evolves as the game goes on so you maybe had a poor early & mid game and only peaked late. At least this is what explains poor scores in my experience
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>>558764308
It's probably like how sleeping between study sessions helps with memory, instead of pulling an all-nighter and still failing the test because you can't remember anything. Your brain frequently needs a break to do a little defrag and organise shit.
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>I use M5 for all units, M4 for summoned, space for hero select + immediate center
Omg how did I not think of that ! Thanks. I had these on 321. My Deadlock setup is a bit like it actually (crouch/dash m4/m5 items 1234).
I'm going for it with 1234ZC for items. Changed a few things here and there like X to directional move (SF is a hero I want to practice too).
That'll be rough for a while but I was really not happy with my control scheme. Time to grief some turbos I guess.
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Woops, was meant for (You) >>558782235
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>all my Overwatch cases today were false reports of Scripting/Hacking for shitters who were just bad
Stop filing false reports you retards. They're a waste of my time. Just stick to Griefing/Feeding, or Role Abuse if you want to stick it to them.
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>Deadlock
based.
my directional move is when holding alt. I never use it either, but I should use my ctrl and alt modifiers more often.
you should include neutral items in your item hotkeys too. you need 4 minimum, 7 maximum. I typically don't put active items on 6/7 though so I never really cared to find better keybinds for them. the only time they get used is when playing supports and I just put wards there.
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>Deadlock
Yeah it's funny that my most played game since my long game is Deadlock which has nothing regarding micro managing units at all. Maybe its extreme information overload and tempo made me see DotA as way more "relaxing" (in a way) regarding decision making.
>my directional move is when holding alt.
That's why you don't use Alt for auto-cast and such like anon pointed out. If you don't use I'd recommend trying, I find it very convenient and played a fucklot of Drow Ranger games with it.
My neutral hotkey is V now. I switched a bunch of things around but just didn't mention them along many of the new settings.
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>Get Low Prio because I had connection issues yesterday
>Anti-Mage and Lion go to the Dire Offlane because they're probably League players and think that's where Carries go on both sides
>I lock in Pos 5 Omni, end up having to quick switch to Pos 3 Omni in lobby
>Ping spikes randomly all game, still carry
>Still shit on them even DURING spikes
>We still lose
Still, carried with Omni-Knight.
So that's pretty cool.
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how does death prophet mourning ritual (or delayed damage in general) interact with blade mail?
a.) it deals the original damage back to the attacker, ignoring the "delayed" part?
b.) it deals the reduced damage from it being delayed on your end?
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What should I be building on PA? Battlefury is pretty standard, desolator is standard too but I'm not sure if I should be building it because it seems like battlefury already gives plenty of damage plus cleave so it doesn't make a lot of sense to be buying an item that applies a debuff. Manta maybe? Butterfly? bkb obviously at some point in time, but maybe I should be gravitating towards an item that makes her tankier, maybe a skadi or something. What do you usually build on PA?
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>>558804368
I know it's just, I wish he was a little less blatant about it so it looks like an honest mistake instead of genuine malice.
>>558804795
You can check Dotabuff for item builds.
BKB and Abyssal are good because it lets you cover her weaknesses instead of buffing her strengths.
Weaknesses being no form of lockdown and vulnerability to lockdown (Much like Anti-Mage and other melee carries like him)
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>>558804795
>should be building it because it seems like battlefury already gives plenty of damage
No it doesn't, BF gives shit damage. You have no idea how big the exponential damage deso gives you, go look at the graph how armor interacts with damage, if the hero goes negative armor they just melt.
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>>558805985
Definitely satanic is a good choice because it gives her sustain in fights. But you need a bkb to actually be able to make full use of the satanic or else you just get locked down and focused. I'm not sure about abyssal, though. I mean, yes, she has no lockdowns, but she has slows and is pretty mobile during fights so it's not really an issue. The biggest issue PA has is that she's very squishy which is why I was thinking about building something on her that made her a bit tankier maybe.
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>>558806325
>But you need a bkb to actually be able to make full use of the satanic or else you just get locked down and focused
Which is why I build Bkb right after deso like I said...
Abyssal VS satanic first is situational. I often get basher, then satanic, then finish abyssal. It really just depends on my teammates and what enemies heroes I'm against.
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>>558804795
Okay there is a huge misconception of what PA does as a hero and how to itemize in your post.
You need to look it as a triangle of needs for cores, scaling, survivability and kill potential.
Pa is pos 1 hero who excels at oneshotting heroes and maning up.
Scaling: Pa gets a steroid for farming in her blink plus dagger and ult makes her damage uptime really high, blur also helps tank ancients. Cons is she only hits one creep at a time.
This is why we go BF first item, gives you cleave to farm faster and mp regen to spam abilities against creeps. We go echo sabre on a bad lane or just skip this check if things go awful.
Kill potential: The hero shits damage, so after getting a BF we need to check if we need to survive during tfs or just do even more damage to snowball faster.
How does PA kill? By oneshotting a hero by blinking and critting before anyone can react and lock you down or escape. Deso checks all these marks, gives raw damage and minis armor, helps you take buildings which PA struggles with and even has a scaling component.
Skadi doesn't help you here, you want to kill them before hp regen kicks in as a factor and they can't get away with your dagger blink, skadi is for long skirmishes. This is why we prefer raw damage items over stars since they are more efficient numbers wise, butter is useless and we don't want speed steroids since blink already gives us all the attack speed we want. AC is bad because we don't get damage. Basher and Orchid are candidates after deso so heroes don't escape, nulifier too.
Survivability: We just said PA likes to oneshot heroes, and BKB fits perfectly on that framework, by the time BKB wears off the fight should be over or more manageable. You have blur so you are immune to physical and bkb is anti magic so you are basically untouchable, skadi just makes you tankier but doesn't enable you to go ham. Once people get mkb you should have satanic, the concept is the same you go in and not die.
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have this apu, he will be your friend
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>>558807567
Skadi doesn't go into your game plan, it doesn't help oneshotting everyone, it doesn't let you go unchecked in team fights. PA doesn't want stats.
In old dota we used to go sny after or before bkb as a filler item but dota is to optimized and there are better items options, you can't fit a sny after bkb, sny is your survivability item and we usually only get one per hero. You don't want bkb plus linkens or any of those combinations, only heroes with inbuilt survivability can get away with second item sny like juggr or lifestealer. If there is not a single stun, disable or slow, or its all single target bkb piercing you are allowed to skip bkb for a sny but thats rare. If you need the status resistance go abyssal after casual basher, if not just casual basher into satanic for dispel or nulifier for lockdown.
Yes deso is a more mid early item but its what allows PA to play the game and not be useless, its like skipping manta on specter or old PL diffu.
Go to demo and compare your damage without deso. Deso is the item that allows you to join fights after bf since its cheap, your first item after a greedy item such as bf is one that allows you to fight. (Not want, allow) Third item is the one you wanna fight with.
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>>558807868
It's the 3k mmr 'take ice path level 1 on jakiro' autist again. He's the only one who bothers with these long drawn out posts. He clearly doesn't play the game and he's so tone deaf he might as well be an LLM
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Yeah you're right and it feels really nice actually. I switched to ctrl + ZXC control group. Naga + illusion and the other 2 illus in a group. 3rd acts as a flex especially when 4th comes online. It's a lot less inputs. Don't think I'll ever get into playing Chen so I won't need more I reckon (unless Brew gets the void Panda back for some reason). Thx for making me think twice.
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>you can auto cast Ogre Bloodlust, but you can also self cast it.
Alt modifier works for both toggling and self cast but prios self cast. Just put the setting on and switched some characters. Really nice actually could be useful on Oracle too, I'll use it. Does auto-casting Bloodlust really warrant a bind?? Can't think of another character that would care.
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>>558804795
>so it doesn't make a lot of sense to be buying an item that applies a debuff
Deso is +55(?) damage + 60 extra damage at max stacks, and it applies minus armour that makes your physical damage more effective. In comparison, Daedalus is a 5k+ gold item with +88 damage with crits, so for PA who already has crits, Desolator is a bargain for extra damage, especially early game. It's a good item on PA. The problem is more about timing and per-game needs.
If you take like 12-14 mins to buy the Bfury and then 3-5 mins for Deso, you're pretty set for midgame broooooling. As long as you don't feed, just taking good fights and pickoffs with your team will get you stacks.
If you take like 18+ mins to buy the Bfury, then you might be too late for Deso and you are probably going to have to think of getting other shit like BKB instead, depending on the game.
I used to hate on Desolator for a long while for being a dead-end early game item like you but in the past few months, I changed my mind and started buying them on the usual heroes again. It's definitely still a good item.
Don't get Butterfly on PA though. I don't think it's worth the slot.
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>Control groups are literally SAVED across characters and games
Wait... Wait wait wait wait... Hold on... This absolutely fucking changes everything??? Holy shit
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>>558811120
I have a hard time justifying buying desolator on late game carries especially if you are not getting enough farm early game to justify buying it and having it early to mid game. Feels like desolator falls off pretty massively after the mid game and at late game if you have a desolator in your backpack you are pretty much just wasting an item slot on nothing. Desolator is like an IQ test and late game it's actually pretty horrible and there are many items much better than deso. I'm not calling deso a bad item, it's good early to mid game but you are not going to be winning games with just a desolator. I'm thinking about an MKB mid game instead of a deso, seems like a good item since it gives damage as well as attack speed and plus a 80% chance to do extra damage.
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>>558811930
Omfg I'm queuing to play Brew right now lmao.
How many control groups do you dotards use unironically, any character specifics that pushed you to that number?
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>>558811880
>MKB (4700 gold)
>+40 Damage
>+45 Attack Speed
>80% to deal 70 magic damage and pierce evasion
>Desolator (3500 gold)
>+55 Damage
>-6 armor on target, which can include buildings
>+30 damage at max stacks
Please stop buying MKB, if you're not dealing with evasion. It is the objectively better right click item per gold.
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>>558812760
https://dota2protracker.com/hero/Phantom%20Assassin
10 % of games on a 40 timing window after you finish core items (bkb, deso, satanic) probably to deal with a butter hero. The only hero that its allowed to have an mkb as a core mid build is void and WR, everyone else is grief because the item gives you almost nothing.
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You could ancient jungle necro, why did they get rid of all the fun ?
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>>558812760
Also mkb is a shit item this patch because radiance is no longer an aura and we got shiv as tier 3 neutral.
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>>558811880
Deso is useful for burning down buildings too. It's not just a fighting item.
I also didn't say I get it on every hero, just the usual suspects, which means the heroes who traditionally got Deso. e.g. PA, Clinkz, Bounty Hunter, Weaver, TA, etc. who also are arguably not "late game carries" like AM or Medusa. More like snowballing midgame carries.Yes, I'm joking about Bounty Hunter. Put your pitchforks down.
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>>558813864
He's talking about the change where it no longer affects enemies and doesn't give them a miss chance anymore. It's just all evasion on the owner now. Burn aura is still there so his wording's a bit off.
I disagree with the Anon though and think it could still justify buying MKB. But it'll depend.
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>>558810404
no my original point was that I just use zxcvbn to toggle auto cast on qwerdf, but I could probably optimize that by going into each hero's specific keybinds and consolidate it down to a single keybind because I can't think of anybody who has more than 1 autocast ability.
if self cast toggles auto cast that's a setting I didn't know existed.
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d2pt disagrees with you there on Weaver
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>>558814675
>AM is not late game carry
You always hear something new around here.
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>>558815457
What retarded trench are you from, where people can't farm?
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>>558815040
No, it hasn't been. Control groups were assigned to specific units and had to be redone whenever they were summoned back. I was very disappoint by this. Idk when it was implemented like that however, probably with all the new game unit orders options.
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>>558814673
I agree I think radiance isn't worth it now radiance carries like naix abaddon and alch are better off with mjollnir. running in with the mjollnir active also creates so much space it's insanely underrated
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>delays your late game indefinitely
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>AM is not late game carry
dotard...
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Dead game.
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You're supposed to pretend to be cool and enlightened and educated by saying the new wisdom of "anti mage farms faster than other hypercarries" and this then morphs into "actually anti mage isn't even good lategame he just farms faster" because you can point out that a troll warlord or a spectre might outmath him in raw numbers at 6 items with a moon stone and blessing
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What is the most boomer hero build I can do?
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>really getting the urge to play
>can't because it's a bad time
Maybe I'll just go to bed early.
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I'm confused, whose team is Phantom Assassin on?
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Anons, kind of a newfag, just had this argument with a guy on my team - enemy was PA, I was Drow. He said I was retarded because I was about to build MKB and Drow's ult gets past evasion. I read the ult thoroughly, it doesn't say evasion - it says defense. Was that guy retarded, or is he correct?
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>>558839606
The proc does have True Strike but remember that the ult can be disabled, e.g. when PA jumps on you, so there's nothing wrong with buying MKB.
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Alright I just tried her out in demo with an enemy pa with butterfly.
It goes through. Why does the ult descriptions say "her attacks go through the enemy's defenses and ignore base armor" but nothing about evasion? That's fucking crazy.
MKB? Then maybe that.. gigaorchid would be better
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>>558840040
the in-game descriptions is retarded, then
>>558840192
does silver edge disable butterfly? Or just actual abilities?
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>>558840065
>but nothing about evasion?
It's more like, it's coded that way to guarantee the proc does something because otherwise Drow would be fucking useless from all the procs doing zero damage.
Same reason Maelstrom procs pierce evasion, because they need to hit something and have a bounce starting point. They didn't HAVE to code it that way but they chose to so it's less useless.
>gigaorchid
Bloodthorn is a nice item but Drow will rarely get close enough to use it on anyone, and when PA jumps on you, it'll be with BKB on so it's doubly pointless.
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>>558840595
thanks
I guess it's kinda situational then - something you build against PA specifically for evasion.
but what if she just builds butterfly? guess there's the ult still
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>>558846406
See the discussion above in the thread from the PA perspective, starting from >>558804795
Generally an AGI carry would love to have huge amounts of +AGI and evasion, but PA already has the evasion and the enemy team would've bought shit to counter it. Generally MKB as first choice, and alternates as second choice. So the evasion from Butterfly does nothing, and if you wanted extra damage for a stat stick, you could've gotten any other item for the same benefit or better for the 6k gold you spent on the Butterfly. Something like Skadi would give you more survivability, Manta gives you dodges and some dispells, etc.
PA needs like 5 other items to buy ASAP to carry and Butterfly is not on that short list. So by the time you buy Butterfly on PA, it's like item #6 in the lategame and taking up a slot that could've gone for a different item with more utility for PA. Or you skipped a necessary item on the short list for Butterfly that doesn't do shit for you.
If PA is buying Butterfly, she's either stomping real hard, or griefing, or going for a meme build (aka. griefing).
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>>558812641
As I said for Naga i unironically use the max amount. Once I set it up and got used to it, it made other micro heroes a piece of cake (except Visage since I cant figure out how to remap the birds abilities and it keeps fucking me) and I don't have to retink the keyboard layout each time I find there's a new unit combination for a hero I want.
For every micro hero you want at a minimum 3: hero, summoned units, all units.
For brew I have, and suggest for you, 3 control groups for each of the brewlings (6 total) it feels much better than fucking around with tab. I also have another 3 for each group of 2 brewlings, but you might not need that. Just play a bit and figure out what groups of units you naturally want to control on the fly.
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>get an idiot I previously muted on the enemy team, for once
>it's a dazzle
>he went shadow blade
>and Orchid
>he starts invading our jungle solo
>drop a sentry just to catch him
>fight went bad, because his teammates were behind him
>then catch him again, this time he dies alone for nothing
>his team loses rosh, and a t2, but gets teamfight win (PA outcarries Jugg)
>catch him AGAIN, like an idiot
>his team loses another rosh, then rax, then game
I wonder if this dipshit understands that he literally cost his team the game. Shallow Grave PA is the fucking worst.
>check Dotabuff
>4 pages of Shadow Blade Orchid Dazzle and Agh's MoM Willow
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Anons, going 12 wins/7 losses winrate with spectre as a newfag at guardian II.
I always sell boots for sixth item - is that retarded or a good move? Spectral dagger gives superior pathing, I have my ult for TP, and I need damage and that final piece of survivability.
I noticed that I ALWAYS have the phylactery - I favor phylactery instead of boots - retarded or does it work? I make everyone else slow instead of making myself fast.
I upgrade it into khanda when enemy has strong passives. Always skadi when there's thick enemies/regen. BKB/linken's - that leaves abyssal blade, radiance + either HoT or something for attack speed.
Should I keep doing this, or is it losing me games? I sell boots last, ofc, when the big final fights begin, early game I always have boots.
I don't have to run because I'm so overfarmed at that point that everyone runs from me
I basically play spectre like this: always phylactery first, then radiance - then I jungle and occasionally pick off lone supports and teamfight with my ult and TP back to the towers near jungle and keep farming, then I target their disabling support - and once he's dead, I tell my team to go for the towers, repeat until throne
Or I wait for them to kill one guy - then I haunt their support or carry if I'm strong enough, then we push
Any more tips? Critiques on the playstyle?
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>>558853765
>I always sell boots for sixth item - is that retarded or a good move?
Its fine, you always sell boots as carry.
>I noticed that I ALWAYS have the phylactery - I favor phylactery instead of boots - retarded or does it work?
Retarded, the item does nothing past min 30. Khanda is also a shit item.
You will 1v9 at that mmr because nobody knows how to play and global abilities are op, just farm and join fights you can win, thats all.
I can watch a replay if you want.
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>>558853913
Thanks anon
I'd show you a replay but I got doxxed here
Not that there's any personal info on my account, but felt weird, I keep the replays private since then, no replays on dotabuff or whatever
but thanks for the offer
But I just won an unwinnable game with feeding mid by simply telling my team not to fight while I and they farm - we won, I kept picking off the carry while he was farming, mid guy was basically solo and I had good teammates
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>>558812641
hero
courier
manta illusions
naga illusion 1 and 4 (4 comes later so usually one illu is with hero)
naga illusions 2 and 3
select all units except hero
select all units
phantom lancer tanky illusion from w
each individual meepo
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>>558814862
>if self cast toggles auto cast that's a setting I didn't know existed.
this is default behavior and your keybinds are horrible
turn on double click selfcast like a human being and stop griefing by using alt for other stuff
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I know the game is a lost cause when I hear 5 minutes into the game
>We need to beat Alche early before the late game
We are fucking Jakiro, Juggr, AA, SF and puck what the fuck are you talking about, what late game Alche has no late game past 30 minutes.
We lost once Alche reached his min 46 timing because my entire team threw a tantrum and stopped playing the game. My puck finished the game with 14k gold. This is the 5k bracket, you never leave the trenches.
How do people get to 5 by saying such retarded shit.
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>>558853765
Stop buying phylactery on carries when you could be buying a farming item instead like battlefury or radiance. considering that you're new you probably don't have farming patterns on lock right now so phylactery is only going to make your radiance timing at 25min which is hindering all your other timings. I would personally recommend you to play a stronger laner than spectre to have a strong early game and capitalize on that but if you can manage then it's all good
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I honestly thought you were exaggerating as a joke when you said you were using all 10 groups. That's completely justified now that I know it's saved. I don't know where you find all those binds but that must be really useful.
>For every micro hero you want at a minimum 3: hero, summoned units, all units.
That's sort of a default to even start playing micro heroes. Control groups are meant to expend possibilities further to me.
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Interesting, thanks. I went for 4 control groups binds for the same reasons you mentioned (all meepos and Naga+illu/double-illu/manta/4th illu)
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>>558873669
Right. I've noticed a control group keybind will select whatever summons aren't in a group by default if its allocation aren't here. That should work to select rune illusions granted you haven't summoned everything but that'd probably take more time to think than just raw select them.
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>>558877307
I think he's funny. In the early years I hated him with a burning passion but he's refined his act and became a good host, and interviewer. The cutaway segments and games he does are fun too, and I even liked his DHL commercial he was surprisingly good in it.
Last season was just odd how they were piling on him, it's like how children act when they are bullying the weird kid. Even Sheever was calling him stupid, which is surprising because they seemed to get along well when hosting together.
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>>558880470
lifestealer is good as is the issue is that he's outscaled by how modern dota is because he's a tanky damage over time frontliner which is the polar opposite of your clinkz, SF, TA. he's hard to balance because if you buff his flat out dmg he becomes broken
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>>558881338
Yeah nudota heroes all have insane kits but it culminates with kez since he's allowed to have 8 different abilities. Ringmaster and Hoodwink are great even after they've been nerfed, Muerta does insane damage, Largo is broken on pos3 with a good team. On the opposite take heroes like Chaos Knight, Naix, NS or Bane. It's like they come from a different video game or something,
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I fucking hate nature's prophet in pub since the end of jungling. It doesn't work as a support, it doesn't work as a carry, all it offers is the ability to teleport everywhere to be the worst version of another hero there. It doesn't help that the most picked facet is also a pure noob trap.
I don't deny that the hero can work in a proper team, like io or underlord, but when you just roll 4 other random people, you need to bring something reliable to the team.
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I'm 7k MMR and I still am completely lost what to do as support most of the time.
Like the majority of the times 1-3 is farming the entire map and I can't get any farm, so I either just sit behind one of the cores to protect them or do some super safe warding. I have no idea how you even get farm as a pos4 nowadays.
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>>558883181
If all else fails if your NP is any good and your team is getting rolled they can at least split to throne and give you a chance to comeback. But I agree he doesn’t really do shit as a support during the laning phase for you as a carry or off unless he’s actively trying to play for you which most np players don’t and share a brain cell
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>>558883735
You get gold and experience from stacking camps that's where the gold comes from, and de-warding, and some courier snipes.
That's the problem with dota players everyone is so fucking greedy all the damn time. Pos4 farm is just clearing a wave or camp when your carry is not near and it's safe to do so without getting ganked. After laning phase both supports are supposed to be constantly moving, winning on vision, giving information, saving your carries while they farm in risky positions, buying smokes to gank and invade the enemy's side of the map, stacking. It pisses me off to see my pos 4 or 5 farming forest creeps when the rest of the team is fighting in the enemy jungle.
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>>558884663
Yes 100%. I don't know how people sit and watch high mmr players all day and don't notice what the supports are doing. Supports heroes are what wins the games, carries are only effective for a brief window during the mid game. Early game and late game is about supports not being idiots and saving their three idiot carries.
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>>558885186
Are you not communicating to your team that the camp is stacked? You can just ping it and the game will do it for you.
That's like asking
>Why would I go on a lane if i'm just going to die and feed the ennemy carry anyway
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When are they properly making specter's facets be haunt/shadow step?
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>want to play support
>keep getting core
>every single fucking support is a retard who doesn't know how to fucking lane or play their hero
>enemy supports are always crackshot expert supports who know what they're doing with multiple force staves euls and other shit
>my supports sit afk behind tower and "rush" a 40 min aghs and aeon disk and never buy wards
>lose miserably
I don't want to play carry/mid/offlane. Just let me buy the wards, PLEASE.
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>>558907089
this you?
https://themercury.co.za/lifestyle/health/2026-02-24-watch-michael-phi llips-breaks-silence-on-living-with -worlds-smallest-penis/
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Rylai Moon
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>>558914945
The workshop submission for that PA skin bordered on BBW territory, they edited it down before accepting it.
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>>558915942
enemy team will feed her
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>>558917039
i only type it after uncompetitive shitstomps
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>Stomp of a loss
>2+2 same players on respective teams again
>Stomp again
>One still returns for the third match
>Again
>Not only does the matchmaking put one of them with me for the fourth time, but it also adds in another zero kill retard from the third loss
Yay for matchmaking...
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Thoughts?
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