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Shit hero edition
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you for your continued support!
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Getting older sucks, I'm dogshit at this game now. Used to be pretty darn good though, I'll tell ya that.
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>another useless fucking pos 4 picker who just sits afk in lane
>never takes lotus, never trades hp or regen, never pulls
and naturally we lose because I don't have a good enough game to carry these retards
who die REPEATEDLY to a 5 blink dagger lineup by hitting tier 2's
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???
He's a fucking sniper
And he's our most farmed hero
and he's going with 1 support to hit a mid tier 2, with no vision, against 5 blink daggers
with a full glass cannon build
Repeat that 3 or 4 times and game is auto loss
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I was asking unironically, we won that game but I have like 30 games on this hero by now and I have little idea of how to build him.
I win a lot of games on Nyx but in some games supports are running around with 3 defensive items and 3-4k hp by minute 30 so it feels super hard to play him.
I go Dagon (Kaya too if I have a good game), then it depends, I don't build Aghs since I don't like it and don't see why I would need it, octarine is meh as from my pov you need your vendettas to count and octarine doesn't help you there. What's the verdict on builds?
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>queue up
>get mid, not support
>fuck
>get last pick
>we have a nice teamfighting line-up, fuck it, I'll be selfish
>pick Waifuranger
>enemy mid picks Huskar
>fuckfuckfuckfuck
>have the most horrible lane as expected
>still manage to get a win because I accidentally picked a good counter
>too tired and stressed out to play another even though I need more tokens
God I hate playing against Huskar. Fuck Huskar pickers. And Viper/OD/Sniper pickers while we're at it.
Also, making pos 3 a priority role was a mistake. They should've just made pos 5 be the only priority role so that support players aren't forced to grief by checking offlane.
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>>558935090
Hope you enjoy needful program we do at Valve™ saar
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thoughts?
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https://dota2protracker.com/hero/Nyx%20Assassin
Aghs is pretty good I dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Your build is pure grief
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>>558928586
It's true. I hosted an art jam for the end slides and he contributed a piece, I was very flattered. It will appear in Monday's video.
>>558940501
Thank you for the feedback. The long tier lists get a lot of watch hours which is good for channel revenue, a lot of people fall asleep to them. They don't grow the channel much but they strongly appeal to a smaller niche.
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Nyx is a snowballing ganker/caster so him struggling in the late game is expected. You need to get big and strong while oppressing your enemies so that they stay struggling as long as possible.
I don't know why you bought MKB Daedalus but if you're doing it to maximise your Vendetta damage, you're doing it wrong. Vendetta is a special attack mod applied after an attack AND it already has True Strike so the MKB is unnecessary. And I think this means that the bonus damage from Vendetta does not get crit benefits either (don't quote me on that). Your regular attack portion will get the crit boost but not the Vendetta bonus. His Vendetta isn't a one-shot, it's part of a combo. You are doing it wrong even for a one-shot build anyway. If you want a meme right-click Nyx build, you are still doing it wrong.
>I don't build Aghs since I don't like it and don't see why I would need it
Aghs is an amazing item but the cost is steep. You're not using it as part of a combo or anything, but it's more for teamfights. You complain you drop off lategame, and Aghs is one of the answers so you better learn to like it.
>octarine is meh as from my pov you need your vendettas to count and octarine doesn't help you there
Nyx wants to constantly spam his spells. Octarine helps with that with mana regen and cooldown reduction.
You need to learn how game mechanics work instead of building random shit that don't do shit for you. Reading the wiki is free: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Nyx_Assassin
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>haven't played in a long time
>come back, my marci starts shit with me over my item build
>ragebait her the rest of the game by pinging her deaths
>she rage buybacks
>immediately gets hit by a mirana arrow and feeds
>she rages even harder and sells all her items to start copying my build and continues feeding
I haven't laughed so hard in a while, god I missed this game
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No, she was our soft support and I was the hard support and she was bitching at me for not warding enough. I was warding as much as I could but you can only cover so much space being the only hero slowly waddling around the map placing vision.
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I just wanted to kill enemy carry hence the meme build, thanks for the input,
>if you want to go one shotting build this isn't the way
Huh?
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if only clinkz had bought bkb this game wouldve been much easier
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new hero :
Argast, Vampiric Gentleman
Strength, Ranged (700)
Innate : Vampiric Mastery
50% of Argast's Lifesteal is converted to damage and attack speed.
Increases by 1.75% per level.
Skill 1 : Blood Stage
Upon activation, Argast loses Max HP per second at cost of receiving massive lifesteal.
HP cannot go lower than 1%
Lifesteal bonus : 100%/140%/180%/220%
Max HP lost per second : 20%
Cooldown : 0.5
Skill 2 : Gruesome Barrage
Double Activation.
Upon first trigger, sends out an illusion on an area that releases bats dealing normal attack damage on surrounding enemies.
Upon reactivation, Argast takes the place of the illusion and gains debuff immunity with magic resistance for a short duration.
First activation attack damage : 40%/60%/80%/100%
Bonus damage : 5/10/15/20
Debuff immunity duration : 1.1/1.4/1.7/2
Magic resistance : 60%/70%/80%/90%
Radius : 385
Cast range : 950
Cooldown : 14
Skill 3 : All for One
Whenever Argast damages himself, percentage of his self inflicted damage is added on his next attack as Max HP damage upon hit.
Self inflicted collection rate : 10%/15%/20%/25%
Max HP as damage bonus maximum grant : 15%/20%/25%/30%
Skill 4 : Impending Doom
Argast gains invisibility, instant projectile speed and agility within intervals.
If Argast didn't attack during the revealed phase, he loses HP.
Total invisibility interval : 1
Total invibility duration : 1
Max HP lost for not attacking : 30%
Agility bonus : 70/140/210
Duration : 6
Cooldown : 40/20/10
Talents :
25. +20% All for One Max HP cap / +100% Vampiric Mastery Lifesteal to Damage conversion
20. -2 Impending Doom CD / +80% Blood Stage Lifesteal
15. Normal Attack splinters into 3 (65% damage splinters) / +15 Strength
10. +50% Gruesome Barrage Attack / 20% Blood Stage minimum HP
Aghanim's Scepter :
Gain Bloody Surprise.
Bloody Surprise :
Allows Argast to switch places with an ally.
Cooldown : 4
Shard : Offering
If argast dies, his team is healed by 30% of his hp.
cd : 120
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>It's a "you win your hardlane so much that your support go gank, while their pos5 comes to gank you repetedly, eventually succeed, meanwhile your team keep feeding mid and somehow don't even manages to kill their pos3" game
Why even bother
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>get to press stun a bit more often for 4000 gold
>get to press W a bit more often like it even matters
>get to press carapace but enemies can just avoid you
>damage reduction, but the enemies can just not click you because you don't have the pressure
>invis, but you can be dusted
So I'm paying 4 thousand gold to be still, invis and press stun every so often or what?
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Am I going crazy or should it be Monday today? I remember this February lining up perfectly with the calendar with 4 full weeks starting on a Monday and ending on Sunday and several people pointed it out, but today it's March 1st on Sunday, did I dream all that shit or something?
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>Nyx aghs with aether and oct
>3sec CD mana burn at like 2000+ ranged
>TWO stun at super slow CD
>invis and nearly ungkillable
this is bad according to /d2g/
The only downside with the aghs is that its hard to farm gold as nyx, that's it
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Sup faggots, how can I download a specific old version of Dota? I think you can do it with the Steam console somehow, I know the specific patch I need.
Way back when, I was going to add Dark Willow's announcer lines for Morokai to the wiki, but then I played the event, it was garbage, I said I'd add them later, then six years passed and I never did. I tried to find them today but it seems Valve purged that old event data from the current version.
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nobody gives a shit about either game. most of the people who play MOBAs have advanced to a point in life (career + wife and kids) that they don't have the time to play and just watch the esports once in a while still.
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>playing against PL
>not that bad, I'm killing his illusions
>teammates feed a lot because they take bad fights from overconfidence
>PL gets fat
>still not that bad alone
>but when he's with the fucking frog with the auras behind him, it's impossible to kill the illusions quickly enough
>and the rest of his team is just as unkillable because they stick together and I can't see shit in that deathball and everybody's focusing me 24/7
>was 20-0 with two lanes of rax taken
>lose 21-3
I am so mad it's not even funny.
Holy shit PL with auras is cancer.
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sex with Traxex
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haha le epic hero of lose lane lose mid game but still win
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fucking insane you can lose these games so hard because my nigger team picked sniper carry magnus offlane yet i've never seen a single fucking bkb on my sniper against mars treant lion qop and my offlane has 0 aura items and has never ultied the sf aka the only thing that does dmg
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>>559026073
best part? they're flaunting it
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>>558926795
Just now during his Age of Empires 2 livestream, a donator asked Grubby to rank Age of Empires 2, World of Warcraft, League, DotA 2 and Starcraft (I don't remember if Starcraft Brood War or Starcraft 2).
Mid-fight while microing his archers with his mouth agape, Grubby instantly replied "DotA is best". Later when he had a chance to breathe, he gave a ranking:
1) DotA 2
2) Age of Empires 2
3) World of Wacraft
4) League
5 ) Starcraft
What do you think, /d2g/? Is Grubby right and DotA is best? Or is chat right and Ethiopians is a noob civ?
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cant win games
my ngiger alch has been farming aghs for 20 min only to give to my pos ONE nigger bm that already bought one
my ds hasnt done shit all game
my jakiro hasnt done shit all game
win lane win lane win lane LOSE EVERY FUCKING GAME BECAUSE PEOPLE REFUSE TO PLAY DOTA
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>>559028453
hello valve please moderate your game
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unfortunate wcyd my bad i guess should've ganked his ancient stacks to force him to play the game
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i wonder why i cant queue into these free nigger wins when i avoid them
might it be that valvie is punshing me for winning like 6 games in a row? hmmmm
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gonna lose another game
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>>559032435
lost another game
i mean thank god for this 500 gpm afk farm carry
thank god for a bane pick in 2026
thank god for my viper buying 3 useless items and being a range cerep
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hahahahaa its another CLASSICO
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>>559035537
WHY AM I GETTING THESE FUCKING MAGNUS PICKERS
WHY DO I NOT HAVE A STUN ON MY SUPPS
WHY DOES MY CARRY HAVE 500 GPM WITH 10 KILLS
FUCK DOTA FUCK DOTA FUCK DOTA
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What supports do you think have the strongest spells for contesting the other support in lane early game? You know like when you're fighting for control over stacking and pulling. Jakiro's Dual breath and eventually liquid fire combo seem to be great for getting the other guy to fuck off every time.
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>be support
>follow guy I have seen go 30 and 0 and buy 3 divine rapiers vs my team
>acts like a complete retard, doesn't take free farm, actively ignores camps I pull toward him so he can farm them faster
>he's still the only one not feeding
I dont
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>>559044467
yes, what is the problem with that?
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>Russian monkey KOTL won't stop spamming horses and stealing CS so we're stuck trying to farm under their tower
>With a smurfing Ursa and Shadow Shaman
The day Russia finally fucks around gets nuked is the day I weep tears of joy
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Kiss a deer
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>>559058169
please please PLEASE just let me be reincarnated into the "i have an ench gf" timeline i would do ANYTHING. FUCK
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>queue for support tokens
>get pos 1, not support
>enemy picks Riki
>team buys ZERO dusts
>the only other person who cares, the pos 5, buys some sentries but it's nowhere near enough and he never puts them on the other side of the river
>end up buying like 20 dusts by myself and pre-firing them at places we're about to fight at just to keep Riki away
>have to stop farming every time I see my teammates go off to gank in the enemy jungle without dusts
>forced to chase after them so they don't accidentally feed the Riki
>barely win
Honestly, I'm starting to understand why carry players are such crybabies.
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Reminder that it's quite literally mathematically impossible to raise your Behavior Score from playing Turbo.
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this german bot never doing anything on axe even after buying blink then complaining in all chat)
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try looking here
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Winter_Wyvern/Equipment
otherwise youre way too vague
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https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Crownfall_Act_III_Loading_Screen_1 Turns out it was this one
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Reminder that without russians this game would be dead
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Lost to a fucking bfury sven
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Guess it's time to learn Ember or some shit
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I've just played a game as PA where it actually went pretty well and it seemed like my build wasn't total dogshit for once. I went deso first straight into bkb and then basher abyssal. As the last item I built was satanic. I was playing against a void and I managed to stay out of every single one of his chronos, also they had a legion that focused me down pretty often so I would just stay away from fights until she jumped in. I have to say, after getting my build right PA was actually pretty good. And I also realized that I was playing her wrong before, I played her like I would have played any other melee carry, but she's not to be played like that. You just have to let your team fight alone for some time before you jump in and wipe the floor with every hero on their team during the middle of the fight. Also bkb was a pretty huge game changer for me, I'll definitely be building bkb as second item more often from now on. I also just completely skipped battlefury because you dotards told me it got nerfed.
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I didn't skip it I just didn't buy it as second item, before I went bf deso and then bkb. This time around I skipped bf and went straight into bkb and it served me wonders. I was having the same discussion we're having right now with some dotards a few days ago and they told me that bf got nerfed and that it was mostly good to farm, so I decided to just go straight int bkb after desolator. iirc they told me that deso was her main source of damage, so if that is the case then she doesn't really need bf.
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>bf got nerfed and that it was mostly good to farm
Yes, thats what BF is for dumbass, its not a damage item. Some games you need to go bkb before deso. Go watch a pro play because you have no idea what to do.
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I was there, you misunderstood everything about what people were telling you.
In dota you go farming item (bf) into either damage(deso)/survival (bkb). You only skip bf on a shit lane or you know exactly what you are doing which is not the case.
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I was saying that bf did plenty of damage in itself and that deso was not a late game item, people were saying it scales, which it does now since you get deso stacks. I clearly remember people telling me not to skip deso and buy a mkb because it was not worth it in comparison to a deso price/damage wise. I didn't misunderstand anything, I'm afraid.
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man, dota 2 lore and skills explanations are so cool
weaver ult explantion
>If Skitskurr does not deem the current reality of the world to fit his desires, he simply crawls back in time to right what was wronged.
so good
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He'll probably change his mind again after he stomps enough games to get to a level where farming creeps early matters again.
But there's nothing inherently wrong with the idea that PA should farm heroes early, not creeps. That's what we used to say in threads all the time. Farm heroes on PA, not creeps. If he does well going for an early Deso first, then it's not the end of the world. She wants to snowball and delete people before they get too fat.
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Just remember that you don't buy Bfury for the damage, but for the cleave and farming ability, and it does matter. You could kill a creep wave one by one in 20 seconds and jump around to kill two camps before the respawn time, or you could kill 2 waves in 10 seconds + do 3-4 camps, and then do a stack of ancients your support built up for you (or you did yourself) easily without worry, and now you just finished that BKB faster than if you went naked deso into BKB. Farming effiency is not the same as fighting, and the GPM increase does change things based on how early you get that bf and how well you farm afterwards.
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Ngl I'm having more fun with TA than I ever had with Kunkka
Maybe it's just the shiny new toy feeling but blowing up supports and walking around tanking big hits with my MEGA SHIELD is super fun
And she's hot so like... idk I mean I usually go for cool > hawt but she feels like a nice mix of both.
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Alright fine Mr.Powerpoints, I'll use the fucking meme avatar.
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Dotards? Ur game is dying?
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I don't understand valve at all
They've got a massive, fun, intricate, popular game on their hands and they just.... don't do anything for it
Why can't they be bothered to add a proper BP? Are they retarded? Dota is like the most fun game in the world, why relegate it to jeet skeleton crew?
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>>559127036
better 'an sneedfighter
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Just played my first match in a long time and I'm so annoyed at all the stupid shit I did.
I know it too when it happens...
Also why do you always get mid when you pick last? Pos 1 and 2 used to be the most contested roles
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how do we get big milk truck titties back to dota? we used to be cool
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I just watched a legion commander hitting a jungle camp at 20 health because of a ward i placed while my faceless void decided to hit jungle camps right next to the same lane and realized why nobody wants to play support
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Fuck up in lane
Missed almost every CS
Thought about a topson vid I watched where he did the same and got stacks to recover
I fucked up every stack and got raped by the roam squad
Still won with right click SF hard carrying me, I made sure to commend the enemy mid after the match
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Any kez enjoyers here? Am I delusional to think that kez aghs is really good and that the kez guy on reddit was partially right?? Seriously why do pro players never buy it, is it skill issue? It feels so bad to just falcon rush then you get dispelled or interrupted then now what? You just used your only offensive skill instead of doing all this sick combos going in and out
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also I just checked this guy's dotabuff he has THREE THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED FUCKING GAMES AS TROLL holy fucking shit and 52% winrate. It's actually retarded and disgusting, the hero is cheese as fuck to begin with, but maining him and literally having 3k games as this cheese fucking hero? Why is this even allowed? I should feel bad for losing the game but this retard deserves a loss.
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>win game
>enemy cm accuses me of both boosting and smurfing
feels good
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>>558928174
Currently been working through the same thing. Unironically look into CBT or just therapy in general. Things like a growth mindset are good for easing pressure off of yourself.
I've taken some time to think about what makes people tilt. I've learned that anger often arises due to unmet expectations; do we have realistic expectations of our team? Oftentimes we don't. Are our own self-expectations fair to ourselves? They definitely aren't for myself! You'd be surprised how much our own criticisms hold us back.
If the fear of losing is what's keeping you away from the game, really try and understand that we will ALL lose ~50% of our games on average. Look into "outcome-independence" for some good material. I usually need to keep reminding myself that it's okay to lose, and that losing doesn't reflect anything inherent about my character. Because that's the genuine truth at the end of the day. What good is a win if I had nothing to do with it? And any loss gives me indicators on what I could have done better anyways.
All of this is to say that empathy and compassion for yourself and others can go a long way. Go have fun and forget about winning or losing.
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>our mid asks for 1 min and pauses
>enemy mid unpauses
>we pause again
>enemy offlane unpauses
>this goes on
>our mid comes back with barely any down time
>no biggie
>enemy mid ties top
>ragebacks
>enemy offlane dies bot
>ragebacks
>dies again, and DC's
>nobody pauses for him, he gets an abandon
>enemy mid quits, too
Honestly, did not expect that. Are all unpausers this salty?
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Hello, unpausers. Do you tilt easily, too?
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Anons.... I went on an 11 winstreak
I am now on my sixth loss in a row following that
HONEST question - is 50/50 an actual thing? Because I'm starting to truly believe in that shit
>>559149257
worth it
same as using dust
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>>559129171
it costs nothing for them to shit out a battlepass
people would pay
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yes it is
and after you've spent 40 seconds plus waddling around the jungle doing nothing, the creep is either already dead when you get back to lane with ench, or if you're chen and it actually survives, you then have to micro it just to not actively feed the enemy laner free gold and experience.
This is time you're wasting on heroes that fall off stupidly hard, by nature of using creeps at all.
every possible thing is stacked against these heroes, you start to wonder why they even exist.
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https://youtu.be/0aQlyDgHKpQ?si=e_i30-iVDQvwMBbD
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>Necrobooks
Anon I...
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