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Blueprints from Quests - edition
>News & updates
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/
>Resources
Items
https://arcforge.org/
Skill Tree Builder
https://arcskilltree.com/
Interactive Maps
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
Event Timers
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timers
Key Card locations
https://imgur.com/a/s9YtLXR
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They don't want you to know this but the power rod room in dam battlegrounds on hurricane has 4 wolfpacks in it every time
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>peanut not even playing a full night of arc, despite the new update being only a day old
>peanut switching to marathon tomorrow
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>>558614914
based and nut pilled
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>>558614328
>peanut switching to marathon tomorrow
Every streamer will be playing Marathon tomorrow. It's basic streamer meta to play THE NEW THING when it comes out, and go back to your bread and butter when it falls off (or stick with it if it's popular).
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>our biggest competition is coming out soon, what should we do to retain the playerbase?
>mass pve nerfs, a wasp that shoots fire and a surveyor with a pop inside, a map condition that constantly drains shields and... beards
>yes, this will surely retain our playerbase and keep them from switching to our competition
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Just give me a giant wasp helicopter boss you dumb swedes. You know theyre gonna do it. Just hit the scale up button.
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I have seen so much whining and complaining about the newest update and I think it’s lost on players how much this game has dropped since its release.
This game has been out for 4 months and we have gotten so many additions.
>3 decks
>Almost 2 expeditions
>Stella Montis
>Shredders
>Matriarch
>Comets
>Fireflies
>Cold snap
>Hurricane
>Bird city
>Aphelion
>Augments
>All the patches
I’m sure I’m missing things but you get the point.
This game was $40. Nobody is forcing you to play.
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anyone got a Safekeeper blueprint? I can trade you Survivor plus deadline, wolfpack or ven blueprint
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>>558622349
unless they change it the red one is hot shot, the main color seems to be rookie II
I'm guessing that color is for Daredevil I-III
thats if they don't change it once the rewards are finalized in a few days
I don't feel like farming again either, I can accept not having the red outfit if trials are super sweaty again, though there were some leaked trials that might be capped and less farmable
>search container in medical in Stella Montis trial
>can search already looted containers
>search containers under Spaceport trial
>same thing
>get hit by lightning trial
I guess thats still "farmable" but it's not as extreme as like the wasp trial or something
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>>558622964
whats with this stupid company and putting the most iconic best outfits behind weird retarded pricing schemes. The G-Suit being exclusive to a 60 dollar preorder will forever be thee worst offender by far.
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>>558620004
>decks
Who cares
>2 expeditions
Who cares? They set the date on it, it's not like they are actually working on something for it. It could have happened every week or every 6 months
>stella/shredders/matriarch
All cut content that was clearly intended for release but not finished on time
>comets/fireflies
Literally the most boring new arc they could have possibly invented. "Hornet but fireball" and "Pop but outside" aren't really highlights.
>cold snap/hurricane
Literally just weather effects with some tweaked loot tables and stupid gay shit like snowballs. It isn't really any content. It's not a new map, it's not a progression system, it's not important, and it's appeal wears off after a day or two.
>bird city
Even less effort than weather. It was retarded.
>aphelion
Again cut content see above and for all intents and purposes it's useless as both a pve and pvp weapon
>augments
With boring effects that still are worse than survivor. They really couldn't even let the gun slot just be a safe pocket so you can use a gun and not drop it on death?
>all the patches
Oh you mean like the patch where the entire notes was "Kettle nerfed and trigger nades barely nerfed"? Or do you mean the patch where they claimed to fix keyrooms and then people still broke in? Or do you mean the patch where they claimed to fix out of bounds glitches, but they didn't and left a zipline in stella montis for another month? Or do you mean the patch where they fixed the zipline and said out of bounds was gone, but everyone still got out of bounds in every other area?
I'll give it to them that the shrouded sky patch was on the right track with balance. I'll even say hurricane is okay. Having new arc, even if they are uninspired and lame is also a good thing as well. This feels like the first real patch and it still feels sort of underbaked, especially for a game that has massive glaring issues and has a "10 year plan" but is still bleeding players and about to bleed more tomorrow.
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>>558623128
that one isnt purchasable, its from trials, but yea idk what they are thinking with exclusive outfits, unless in 2 years they restart the cycle of leaderboard rewards, just kind of sucks for people who like them and miss out when this is supposed to be a casual game
its a little better than last season at least, you could only get all 3 outfit colors if you got Cantina Legend
though the colors were dog shit
if the leaks are right, then all you have to do is just stay on any leaderboard above rookie II all season and you'll get the Black/Yellow version
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>>cold snap/hurricane
>Literally just weather effects with some tweaked loot tables and stupid gay shit like snowballs. It isn't really any content. It's not a new map, it's not a progression system, it's not important, and it's appeal wears off after a day or two.
This is honestly the biggest thing for me. People praising these modes like they are god's gift to humanity are so fucking dumb. I used to spend a lot of time modding STALKER and playing STALKER mods. You could implement a weather mod with cool ass effects that could dynamically move anomalies and radiation patches around the zone with cold/heat features and even weird effects that hurt your HP in like a few days of "work" as a solo "developer"
Being impressed by something that can be done with Screen space shaders and a few lines of code is so sad.
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New arc idea
Blacky - think shredder but would move around and try to punch u until u drop
Zoomer - very mobile quadpedaled arc that would try to sting u with stamina draining concoction
Unc Destroyer - bastion but with cannon that would shoot anti tank shells, would say "2 hours a day? really?" upon downing a raider
Poppo - would dimension leap and steal most precious item (weapons included) from you and despawn
Chad - would invade discussion on steam forum and call a nigger people that would bitch about firefly and comet being not original enough
Breaker - tick but adult man sized, also would jump on the back instead of face
Swede - hacked android that would bitch and moan and pray in hebrew all match
also surveyor can now erect legs and sit on you
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>>558624231
It's a good way to get alot of milage out of some admittedly well designed maps and the shaders aren't that bad. The only really poorly designed modifier is Night because it's easily beaten by turning the gamma up on your display.
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>>558625216
>do one stella montis
>leave with 150k and another 250k of batteries
>hit 3 million in 2 days of casually playing
>stash full of blue and purple mods and bobcats and have optimized runs
>look over at the discord and reddit
>every single person is struggling to extract with anything more than 4 seeds a level 2 stitcher and a single bandage
>watching pvptards battling to the death for 28 minutes in trios to leave with less than they came in with trying to catch up
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>>558625742
>but the pvpjeet loves the hurricane
Yes he does!
https://streamable.com/utemxq
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The problem with the Il Toro is that it has the same animation canceling issues the shotguns had in The Finals that eventually got patched by making the pumping action mandatory and not skippable. Toro isn't powerful because of it's 2 tap potential it's powerful because because able to animation cancel the pump by rolling makes the gun freakishly mobile.
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>>558626229
>because able to animation cancel the pump by rolling makes the gun freakishly mobile.
Shoot from 20M away, let em roll around and miss their shots in panic.
I prefer shooting from 30-35, sweet spot, every "reactive" twitch-shooter starts missing, because you're a small set of pixels on his screen.
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>>558626058
Because nearly everyone who plays this game fucking sucks at it and has no idea how to create value in their runs
Look at almost every single complaint with this game and realize there's a solution already for it in game that they were too stupid and lazy to think of
I'm so tired of seeing faggots fighting over metal parts and rattlers at spawn trying to say that springs are hard to find or whatever noob retarded shit they're saying
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>>558626842
I watched a more casual streamer play the game, and they basically went to every container and salvaged everything in it until their inventory was full
I guess a lot of people don't know in round salvaging is worse than out of round salvaging, or that the items have more value if you sell them unsalvaged
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>>558625581
I don't have a problem with their existence at all. But the game's claim to having content can't be "2 shaders with health effects" it just feels lazy and normies dont seem to understand it. I wish we had more of them and I wish we had more 2x events up at once or at least every map that doesn't have a 2x event should have a sub event (ie: lush blooms). It feels shitty to login and realize only 1 2x event and nothing else is up for like an hour and a half.
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>>558626842
Nothing is hard to find, it just feels like a tedious and menial chore to find springs. If you have a hefty amount of weapons that all need to be repaired, upgraded, and given attachments you can chew through like 500 springs easily. But to get 500 it's going to take hours and hours of runs. I can find like 2 stacks of springs and maybe some things that can recycle into springs if I really try, but that requires me to be in a chungartha lobby, get good rng on ground loot so I get springs instead of batteries or air freshener, spawned at 29 minutes, and hope i'm in an okay spawn. I think my most springs in a raid was like 47 and that was a whole 30 minute round and I ate through them in seconds.
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>>558625216
One weekend in January, I grinded out 5mil in like 4 hours just by going to Stella Runs as a carebear. There was only one time I was killed; the rest was just going to Medical and/or Assembly and vacuuming up any Exodus loot.
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Cool story bro
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>>558633004
still seems kind of high, not sure if it was higher before, though if it was rare that surivover (1200 seeds average) then value probably went down
unless you mean real cash, I dont know those sites
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>Actually have a mythical item that's so rare everyone jerks off over it
>Make it commonplace
Making loot matter so little wouldn't be as huge of a deal if the gameplay wasn't so shallow, but it is. What the fuck are these devs doing
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>>558634665
>you people will complain
No. We always listen, hunt and camp.
>Economy
>Loot
>Meta
Does not matter.
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cringe
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>>558634665
I'm a bad guy for wanting loot to matter in an extraction shooter? Don't get me wrong I don't want gear locked behind 1/20000 odds bps or some shit but BPs were the only cool loot we actually had, now there is literally nothing
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There's no reason why this game cannot be run soloplayer offline or co-op with privately run/rented servers.
Tarkov tore off some of the worse players in their lobbies by nering hatchet runners via bot aggro, splintering off the hardcore pvpers ino arena and casual pve into 'offline' and its ridiculous hackers can actually get into their pve lobbies.
Finally getting some good looking outfits but they need the breasts removed from the normal maps. Wide shoulders fucking up the women body type and baked in gyno breasts and wide hips making the men look faggy.
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Defibs and sterilizers. She must be a medic.
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>>558639494
>There's no reason why this game cannot be run soloplayer offline or co-op with privately run/rented servers.
Embark spending a fortune on servers to run the constant serverside physics simulation that runs the AI would be prohibitively expensive for 99% of hobbyists.
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>kill one person in a friendly lobby
>Next game is an endless stream of the shittiest pvp players on earth
Hard to resist the urge to rack up kills, but PVE players bring in such nice loot
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Huueheheh huehue Hahah heeehehe
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>>558641892
Thanks. Torn between that and hobo Todd Howard. Still need the beard for the both of them
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They really are missing an opportunity to utilize some of the higher level ARC drops that aren't used for anything at all. Right now the cost on Deadlines is so jank and a knee jerk response to unemployed sweatlords stacking 30 Wolfpacks and obliterating trials. What they don't realize is that they've designed their trials to basically force players to do this and instead of changing the problem they just made it more tedious for the unemployed sweatlords to grind out the 240 Wolfpacks a week they need to try and get leaderboards. I know this because I am one of the unemployed sweatlords and this change just makes the game more grindy instead of interesting.
They should just make a new item with ARC Coolant and use that with 10 Seeker Grenades to craft a Wolfpack so it still requires more materials than before and still thematically fits. But the real core of the problem is that trials need to be overhauled because we're still going to have to grind these fucking Wolfpacks to brute force the numbers needed.
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Usually fading from black screen while your character can take active isn't an issue, except when you reconnect to a match from network issues and ticks rape my face.
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>>558644474
yea, but maybe they are just trying to stop trials like wasp farming
but who knows
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Autists that farm trials deserve to do good, not everyone should be able to get a high score. The issue is trios abusing the system, which is such a simple fix but they refuse to implement it for some fucking reason
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If they keep ABMM I suggest they at least make it harder to metagame the matchmaking. Instead of 1 kill landing you in ratkanda, make it like 5 kills and tie it with how aggressive the player seems to be acting. Chungarthians should 100% be able to cap a faggot who runs into their key rooms to steal any loot they can. Same with PvPers, they shouldn't be able to just run in naked and suicide a bunch to get to chungartha. They should have to come in an actual loadout and either safely extract without killing anyone 5 games in a row or die to another player without fighting back 5 games in a row. And no a looting mk 1 with no utility and a hairpin1 doesn't count as a "full loadout" it should be tied to value or something.
Have consequences again and make it more difficult for fags to just metagame for free.
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>>558645073
Unless they provide incentive for PvP gaming the matchmaking shouldn't be difficult, if there are gonna be freefarm lobbies everyone should be able to access them, the rat issue isn't even from PvPers "invading" chungartha it's generally just that rats are so dogshit at PvP they accidentally end up there. If the matchmaking is designed in such a way to "punish" players for aggressive behavior it should only be for players that act like absolute niggers, put all the rats in one lobby for example
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Can't believe I downloaded 16 gb to sign up for Expedition, auto-buy a deck, play 2 games and fight the 2 new arc which are dumb as shit, and then immediately log off with no intention of playing again any time soon.
Hopefully Marathon rules (shant be buying it) just so it'll light a fire under Embark's ass, they haven't given us anything worthwhile since Stella.
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>Matriarch Lobby
>all white voices so far
>guy named Two_Rats shouts there's a rat who shot him in the back
>everyone pauses the boss fight to assess
>raider flare pops as the mob singles out the guy
>indian starts monotonely saying the other guy is lying
>"why you believe him huh?"
>freekit
I really couldn't guess a guy named Two_Rats would be honest about getting hit in the back but I believe him.
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Are outfits in this game purposefully ugly or what?
I get that it's post apoc and they're throwing together whatever they could find, but why does nearly every outfit have ridiculous looking pants?
Ex: an outfit has an okay looking coat, normal looking boots, a hat (hit or miss either something ok or odd) and then leggings for pants instead of idk jeans or joggers. Why? Does someone on the dev team have a fetish for skin tight pants?
Or is it just me? I've only been playing for a few days, looked through the char customization menu and there's about 3 decent looking skins, the rest is hot garbage.
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>reverse boosting until the expedition window closes
>running around with free kits missing all my shots
>finally in retard lobbies where people don't roll or run and forget to reload
funnier than I expected. No mics or emotes either. Too stupid for that as well, you have to pull up an emote wheel, imagine knowing how to do that. It's not exclusively pve, because being extremely bad at the game=/=pve players. Most of them still shoot at you every now and then, they can't kill you. So whatever.
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Was the map nuking not explained either? They wipe everything yet you can still choose the same "nuked" map to deploy on. I was initially under the impression they'd go the Helldivers 2 route and make maps procedurally generated, so that'd at least fit.
Also what about knocked out raiders that remain on the surface, does someone come out to gather them up and heal once inside the underground city? I assume lore wise they never die and only go uncon.
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>>558649529
>Was the map nuking not explained either?
i guess the idea was to make a map inaccessible for a limited time but they decided to cut that out
>Also what about knocked out raiders that remain on the surface, does someone come out to gather them up and heal once inside the underground city? I assume lore wise they never die and only go uncon.
that's just game mechanics
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>>558649529
Is it a nuke? I know what happens when the timer runs out. I just think that they're lazy and all of this doesn't fit together because they rushed development. Rushing everything to release it before gta 6 comes out. That was before gta 6 got delayed again. The people over the radio talk about some giant arc enemy appearing. Comes in 5 minutes or whatever.
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>>558649529
>Was the map nuking not explained either
The orbiter is blowing up the surface to keep the humans underground
the raiders getting knocked out is the hardest thing to justify, obviously they're filled up with bullet holes and there are no jannies going topside to save people. In the tutorial you simply get up and walk away after being shot in the back and robbed, limping back to Speranza. For all intents and purposes, (>>You) live and walk away but everyone else is stone dead.
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>>558648883
>whyte peypo get tired of shitskins and go to the moon
>create robots to harvest resources on earth
>shitskins left behind attack arc while theyre harvesting for moon people
>since us whites have a little thing called empathy, arcs only shoot to down so they can continue their resource harvesting
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>>558648821
I am. I'm in lobbies with absolutely retarded people. Who don't know what co-op is.
>Something is moving on my screen, let's shoot it
I've seen how they try to kill birds and tumbleweeds.
It's amazing.
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after my matchmaking "reset" with the patch I was doing spaceport and someone shoots in front of me and misses, I hide behind a crate and the guy starts running over
but this is spaceport trench so he's like taking a good minute to go down the trench and back up to try and find me
I moved maybe like 20 feet to my left and hid behind a different crate, and he actually runs up and starts looking for me around the 1 crate, long enough where I considered just running away, but I tapped him with my anvil a few tmies and then just left him to bleed
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I love the bug that makes everyone's mic sounds like absolute garbage.
Played an entire match yesterday with a guy on open mic that was breathing HARD and I couldn't even focus on the game, felt like I got teamed up with fucking Bane. Dude straight up sounded like he was struggling just from sitting on his puter.
Also what's up with so many browns in this game? I could swear that like 90% of the time someone's on comms it's some arab dude preaching to Allah or whatever, it's mad. I'm from EU, sure, but why the fuck the only people I hear are either kids or middle aged arab men?
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They've said they also look at skill. If you don't go down ever except getting shot by other players after 20 successful runs. You're in lobbies where people clean up all the high loot areas and kill all arc in 5 minutes.
This tard lobbies are way better for future trials. I'll do this from now. Takes just as long as trying to get it to PvE lobbies.
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Bros what if marathon does really well and makes our game obsolete?
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>>558653924
It’s frustrating, because the environment aesthetics in ARC are great, but the third person camera and slow movement make for low skill-gap boring pvp. Meanwhile Marathon is first-person and fast paced with solid gunplay, but it’s ugly as sin.
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>>558655371
you would have loved the FPS hack we had for a few days
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1q89t5e/i_tried_arc_raide rs_in_first_person/
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>>558625794
>watching pvptards battling to the death for 28 minutes in trios to leave with less than they came in with trying to catch up
Do they not like.... fight FOR a loot spot? They just shoot for the sake of it?
I PvP with my trio on stella and we fight for assembly/medical and regularly come out with 120k+ loot each (considering ~40-50k loadouts).
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>>558659068
Smokes are for before youre detected.
>>558659909
Throw lures noob lol.
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Well, today marks the culmination of 240 hours of gameplay, and I cant help but feel a little emotional about it.
That's every blueprint in the game. It took a dozen hours of trading to get the final 20, but I'm glad it's done.
I really hope we get a substantial game update in the future, because only two being added since I started playing in December seems like a pretty terrible pace...I would really like to see kinetic converters get added.
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>We know the torro is OP but we still need more DATA before we can do anything about it.
I hate these stat-sheet nerds balancing. How about you play the damn game. Is it seriously okay for a shotgun to two pump people 30m out? How is that fun where Torro is a must have in the second weapon slot? You dont need 12 months of data, 5 research surveys and a scientific research team to realize that is not good balance.
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>>558665039
I don't have any more trader secrets to hide, so I'm gonna share my augment BP route with you.
Go to Dam Battlegrounds, Testing Annex (Medical Facility inside of it). The containers there spawn Augments/Med BPs like crazy, and you can get up to 5 augments an hour doing it.
Just go in naked and run straight there. I got 2 safekeepers and 2 revivals doing that.
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>>558665476
I don't think Marathon is going to be the slam dunk people think it is. The question of if your fellow raider is friendly or not adds a lot of depth or Arc Raiders, where as Marathon is going to be a straight up PvP sweatfest.
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>>558666337
Every extraction shooter without it turns into KoS. Ive had far more tense situations in Arc than Tarkov where people dont even give you the opportunity to be backstabbing most of the time because its KoS 99% of the time.
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>>558666684
It's too easy to go between 2 extremes, which makes the game boring. Even more so for duos/trios.
ABMM needs to be much smoother, and there need to be more incentives to cooperate to offset PvP. The new puzzle on dam is while technically great, still basically undoable unless you're classified as a shitter by the system (and the loot sucks desu).
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>>558666951
Yeah but at least there are options to go to in the first place. Every other game, no such option exists, its always PvP KoS lobbies. Thats it. Buddying up is so rare, meanwhile at least in Arc I've been able to go to mixed lobbies, friendly or regular ol KoS lobbies. Other games like to pretend there is that tension but in reality its not there because it would always be in your best interest to shoot first.
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>>558667346
TTK needs to be longer (to allow people time for negotiation) and loot needs to be locked and contested for with either ARC, other players or puzzles.
It's a step in the right direction, here's hoping that this one puzzle isn't an offshoot.
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>>558667867
>he doesn't know
Everyone is getting ready to run
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>>558667726
people don't engage ambush tactics because of the TTK, people engage in ambush tactics because that's the best way to fight, period. and doubling the TTK from 1 second to 2 seconds isn't going to engender "negotiation"; that just lets people shout
>BRO I SAID FRIENDLY
twice before flaring instead of once
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>enter plaza rosa
>hear someone behind me
>post up and get ready
>dude turns the corner
>down him
>two other people come in and all work together to kill me
>no words spoken at all, or any explanation for what just happened
very strange
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>>558668125
Negotiations or ambushes only happen from a position of advantage, if people are tougher and they can retaliate, there are more opportunities for negotiation and less for ambushing; it also gives you an option to escape more consistently seeking help elsewhere against the perpetrator.
It's not a "fix", but it's a step towards that.
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>>558653924
I think Arc needs content besides gay leaderboards and weather modifiers to have any longevity. I don't like Bungie or the shit they make but they are pretty good at keeping people on the hamster wheel long term
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I am seeing a lot more weapon variety, outside the torro, now that the venny and greys were nerfed. Lots more blues and pinks in use where their counterparts were nerfed.
Now only the torro and trig needs a nerf so the vulcano can see use.
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>>558658384
there actually is a strategy, someone posted it here, and even watched that fag "Gaming Merchant" do it
basically listen to the audio queues and qhen a rocketeer goes to fire, go 90 degrees and run that way, he avoided 2 rocketeer doing multiple triple bombs doing this, the whole time I'm going, "dude get to cover, are you retarded?"
let me see if I can find the clip
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>I am seeing a lot more weapon variety
that's mostly because of the imminent expedition.
I think weapons need to have their crafting hassle reduced to get people to bring more interesting loadouts. Frankly I think the I-II-III-IV system could be removed with no negative impact on the game
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>>558670623
It think it was a well deserved nerf to common guns. There was little incentive to bring your gucci gear into a match if you're getting rekt with a rattler / stitcher IV. Only thing I could ask for at this point is to slightly buff medium and heavy shields, and a PvP dedicated "Thunderdome" mode with some kind of team deathmatch, and I'm good desu.
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>check tempest
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>prioritize patching the snap cancel
>pulling out quick use items is still buggy
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>>558673668
This reminds me of when I used to pubstomp in paladins. I made a console account just for fun, and I still dominated every single game as the flying rocket dragon. It's really cute that these guys think they're on our level.
>>558674037
Who the fuck is buying blueprints four days before expedition?
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People are still buying this game. I know that you're retarded. But not everyone buys games on release date and not everyone is doing the expedition.
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>>558676302
Turn on crossplay then lil buddy
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can you not, we're happy in our friendly lobbies while all you pcfags shoot each other up with cheats and mouse aim
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>spawn into stella with a tempest ready to kill
>kill a guy
>hes pissed
>cant find more people
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>some guy with no gun suddenly pops in front of me
>we talk
>i just give him the tempest for fun and we extract together
im a chungkandan agent of chaos
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>>558676696
I'm just saying it's rather suggestive that the person who claims to be just as good as or better than pc players, refuses to use crossplay. It almost sounds like someone talking shit without the ability to back it up.
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Really baffles me why people like this bought an extraction shooter where people are given carte blanche to kill and loot each other. It's like moving to africa and then complaining about all the niggers. Actually I've seen a few videos of black people wanting to retvrn to their homeland, who complain about africa and leave after a few months.
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>>558677017
So you reply to arc raiders reddit threads about crossplay off being the best setting, every single one of your clips features horrible players who are either drunk or using a controller, but we're supposed to believe that you actually enabled crossplay for this game?
Do you just not post the times you get dumpstered by the average PC player?
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Bro uses shotguns and nades, gets shit on with shotguns and nades, then thinks that's "meta".
I'm not gonna let someone shoot me first, or be in a spot for nades. That's a lot better.
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I wanna like this game but the gunfights pretty much boil down to "who can be the biggest faggot in this situation" or nade spam, or sometimes an ok fight but something on fun fair terms has happened like maybe 3 times.
What other games do you anons like? I think I'm done after this expedition, too much grinding, this game is for the unemployed, but hey hate the game not the player.
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>try to get into the low skill lobbies
>still not there, but every match starts at 29:59 now
bad players get better spawns, the fuck? must be a player retention thing. those people probably stop playing the game altogether if they don't spawn at the beginning of the match
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You just wait for the PvP guy and win.
Arc bots can fuck you up after you dump a ton of ammo. PvP players can't do anything. The skill gap is 0(zero)
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>Samefagging
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>>558680571
I think its more that suiciding seems to not doing anything anymore, or way less than it did before
and when you are in friendly lobbies, you just play the whole match out anyway, there aren't going to be latespawns unless someone is going in and leaving in the first 13min
pvp lobbies, people die all the time and get replaced, or suicide for blueprints, or just suicide in general to try and get friendly lobbies
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I have 7m raider coins..
I had 1 item in my safe pocket from a naked run, I died. My stash is full.
I have no idea which items this tooltip is talking about
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>>558682048
>I have no idea which items this tooltip is talking about
probably the one item in your inventory, dumbass
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>>558642252
What a huge difference that beard makes. Finally some more masculine features, can hardly wait for more styles and types.
>>558647343
It's to humilate and shame you for playing. Every major game dev studio has to comply with certain things or else they are not allowed to succeed or continue.
Sweet Baby Inc etc even if some of the devs don't want to, its what they're told to do and what they will produce to keep their easy jobs.
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>>558682790
That didn't show up at that moment, what? I didn't hit play and was managing my inventory. I saw that tooltip, recyled 1 item and that's it. I didn't stop looking for a match, because I never hit play
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>>558682324
>It's to humilate and shame you for playing.
no, it's because every outfit leans towards one gender or another while simultaneously needing to have broad sales appeal in order to move units. At the same time, they're all designed by swedish graphic artists trying to emulate 80s Italian film industry scifi props. this schizo conspiracy shit is tiresome
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IT'S SO FUCKING OVER
EVERYONE WENT TO MARATHON
NO ONE EVEN CARES ABOUT THE EXPEDITION
BUNGIE WON
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>>558683968
nah they just pushed a new update for us
you have to remember the open beta started 45min ago, I am positive a lot of people are just going to quit the game after the easy as fuck tutorial and then finding out the game is purely a PvP mode
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>>558616796
Unironically I would love a flying fortress boss that is just a rocketeer-sized flyer with multiple wasps guns on it that track and fire at enemies independently of each other. Something that can either focus fire the fuck out of one player and shred them, or be attacking multiple raiders in different directions at once.
It would be an excellent addition to things like Matriarch fights, because it shines the most in fights against groups of players.
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>>558685294
there is some UFO they seemed to have added
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1rf6ly1/ufo_spotted_on_bu ried_city/
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>>558684993
nah this shit sucks
I would rather play Apex instead of this bullshit
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>>558686579
I felt like I was playing a game from like 5 years ago or something, major complaints were
>everything looks lootable
>nothing is lootable
>friends wipe out a bunch of robots but take a lot of damage
>nothing like health or shield rechargers drop
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>>558683968
they shouldnt have taken 2 months off for christmas
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>marathon
>yea we're making a hero shooter
>oh wait, extraction shooters make more money?
>WERE MAKING AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER
>AND ITS HARDCORE FOR HARDCORE PLAYERS
>oh wait, arc raiders made a lot money?
>ACTUALLY WE ADDED SOLOS AND VOICE CHAT
>LOOK AT THIS VIDEO OF EVERYONE DANCING AT EXTRACT LOL...
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>>558683257
>this schizo conspiracy shit is tiresome
Yeahh I doubted the epstein shit too a decade ago though. Strange deja vu writing this out though.
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>>558684771
Was debating so much for expedition but that second patchwork evolved looks good enough to go for it now, glad to see it ingame instead of only promo images that could have hidden hotpants lol
Fannie pack would be awesome and funny now that I think about it.
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you can talk about marathon here my friend
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>>558691781
nothing noted
just personal stories from some people, I say maybe works less cause it seems to still work for some people
but my guess is they turned down the "weight" of how much dying <1min into a map weighs on your "karma"
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i know they paid him 6 figures for the private beta but holy shit this is not fun to watch
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https://www.twitch.tv/lirik/clip/FriendlyEnchantingOpossumRalpherZ-HA7 GJI8yzhJd3Uw9
its real, they probably think theyre being cheeky and fun but it comes across as real butthurt
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>>558695185
you are not a developer of the game, it's not yours or mine or anyone in this thread's game
>still deepthroating e-nigger cock
streamers and the attention economy is what's killing gaming, fuck off and die in a ditch somewhere
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so how's Marathon going, guys?
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>>558695760
I understand where you're coming from. I used to be young, vidya used to be my main hobby. I cared a lot. But now I'm old, I've got a wife with her two kids, we have one on the way as well, full time job, etc. It's not like the old days where I could put in 4-6 hours a night grinding Halo 3 or COD MW2. When I get to play, I want to relax with some chill looting, but I can still experience those classic high octane plays through watching someone else's performance. You'll understand when you hit your 30s.
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>>558696664
I refuse to believe that anyone who is even a semi-functioning adult actually finds faggots like shitnut entertaining in any way
it's utterly fucking abysmal """content""" designed for braindead zoomers and whatever the fuck the current generation of kids is called
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>>558696823
>>the movement is... good
Arc Raiders unironically has better movement. Think of the parkour and movement tech you can do in Arc. You don't need a special hero ability to do that or anything crazy. You can just do it.
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>>558697430
>old games still relevant
>design philosophies like imsim are gone
>games are made for lowest common denominator, money and shareholders
>shallow garbage everywhere
Everything points to there being more retards and niggers on the net.
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>>558697430
>I refuse to believe that anyone who is even a semi-functioning adult
you got it in one, anon
there is an enormous portion of gen Z and gen A who will sit down and watch a big face talking on a screen, and just basically make that their life. It's probably got something to do with how ~60% of young people now are functionally illiterate
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even if its a joke, it just looks bad
basically can't even go
>yea I came from arc raiders, this game is fun too though
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>marathon is dogshit
>this means embark can just keep coasting and put in the bare minimum effort because their biggest competition just flopped
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>>558698460
yea, I'm kind of sad about it, it somehow has WORSE pvp than arc raiders
like how do you fuck that up
I really think Marathon might have just killed the genre, any normie picking it up and trying it out is going to have the worst time
There is no "friendly" in that game
It's pure PvP
If this flops, why would any other company try to make an extraction shooter
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You niggas complain about TTK but I've been telling you, Arc TTK is way longer compared to other FPS'es. You die so fast in this game (Marathon).
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>>558699034
/vg/ are the biggest group of bitchmade babies anywhere on the internet. All the things people loved to complain about in Arc were only ever mild problems, and now that they've been fixed people are complaining about the fixes. Absolute Goldilocks community
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>>558700354
>Eh, while Arc has big problems to solve they've put out too much stuff since launch to truly be guilty of doing the 'bare minimum'.
>New update is wind and two rehased arc
Maybe not bare minimum but it sure feels lazy as fuck.
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if saying "arc raiders" was both censored, AND caused a red flare to shoot up out of your head, that would've been hilarious
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>>558700649
In their defense, we know that in April we are getting a new map that is supposed to be the biggest map thusfar, and a new boss arc fight with it. Its not like they are doing nothing in the background and this is the high point of new content dropping.
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That I will agree with. At bare minimum, a Comet should instantly down any player wearing a light shield, even at full health. Medium or Heavy shield should be mandatory to survive a Comet explosion to the face. Between that and their armor, Comet then becomes an Arc that eats Freekit users. Not unfairly so, but enough that it actually encourages people to go in with better gear a bit.
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>>558702245
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>>558704395
it is probably people that see your gear/gun and want it
also noticed that when i play with a buddy that is terrible (low elo?) at the game there are more people that rat. assume its just shitters getting what they can
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This last update outside of the lazy arc designs, was pretty good. I have hope for the future.
>Devs nerfed venny and grey guns
>Said they were going for the torro next
So that means next month we're finally going to get a new weapon meta and new content a month later with the new map. Hopefully new weapons too.
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>>558705253
As long as they don't fuck with the big iron on my hip or the il toro. I need them for my new game+ run.
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it's a "Boss Baby 2" situation. dude's wife has probably only played those 2 games and stardew valley
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>torro needs one more pump for blue and pink, plus no reduction in time for pumping the rounds.
you found literally the worst, most confusing way to say "it should do less damage"
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I haven't used it before and just found the blueprint, this is wonderful news for my new game+ run
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>>558709357
I can't stand looking at the game's user interface. I get what style they were going for but it's just so ugly. Reminds me a little of Star Citizen where they seem to care more for how it looks rather than how it plays
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>>558711164
even all the items, once you know them all you can just glance and know what it is
honestly for me only thing I get confused betwee is powerbanks and medical bandages
maybe some of the grey weapons because I never use them
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Embark made The Finals and Battlefield 1, no matter how shitty the balance of ARC Raiders is it will always be optimized, look amazing, be extremely fun, and outlast its competitors trying to copy it.
You can copy a formula, but you can't copy talent or soul, and it shows in the game.
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>>558711524
the UI is okay unless you're a console pleb in which case yeah i can see the problem. If theres anything i wish they would change is making the icons in the crafting menus and loadout smaller so you can see every single item without scrolling and make rightclick cause you to go back in a menu to speed up the flow.
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>>558714001
Destiny was bad at release and took a bunch of updates to become kino. We'll see the same thing with Marathon. In 2 years, it'll be the main extraction shooter, and Arc/Tarkov will be historical footnotes.
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Really gotta take a second to praise just how amazing the maps in Arc Raiders are. Marathon doesn't even come close to clearing in this regard. Even the outskirts of Space Port with nothing going on are better designed. Maybe we are too harsh on Embark. Way smaller development team and likely a way smaller budget than Marathon.
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>>558692034
how does this keep happening. I think what is going on here is that these companies buy chat filters from the same IT security company and the one they keep buying from has this false positive baked in.
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>>558714469
>Maybe we are too harsh on Embark.
Yes
I keep trying to tell you guys that the game is in good hands they make the best worldbuilding and maps in the entire industry
The game has an absolutely fantastic core and all that it really needs is bug fixes and some smaller tweaks that are easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH_Mjx_d3Ew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sujhUPam60o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx25IAewLHk
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they had to fucking turn off the filter to reply this to a marathon streamer pointing it out
people are commenting that they are trying to gaslight that the word was never censored
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>>558715757
>2 cakes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtySt6Fg30
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>>558716193
You have no idea how lucky you are that your introduction to extraction is Arc and not anything else lol. Even the 2nd best in the genre Hunt has some serious bullshit baked into it like getting 1tapped through a wall because you triggered someone's ESP by walking too fast.
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>>558715757
dont worry they can never gaslight us
https://www.twitch.tv/lirik/clip/FriendlyEnchantingOpossumRalpherZ-HA7 GJI8yzhJd3Uw9
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>Peanut accidentally leaked his face on stream by pulling up an article online that had his facecam videos when he was a "regular" streamer
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fucking hell marathon looks so overdesigned and soulless at the same time
a thousand different random neon colors incoherently smashed together
a billion fucking words of text on the screen in black boxes over the game
maps are literally just apex legends
guns look and sound and feel like nerf guns
i cant believe people actually glazed this game lmaoooo see you all topside again soon
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>>558716405
Second best is still Tarkov, and that's because it is evergreen with a lasting playerbase and offers a completely different experience from Arc Raiders. The genre is solved. Arc is for a more casual dad gamer playerbase with optional sweat lobbies, and Tarkov is for hardcore /k/fags that only want the PvP experience.
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>started playing 5 days before first expedition
>got in
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Hello fellow oldfags!
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>make an entirely new intro cutscene for hurricane
>whole idea is that you're sneaking out as theyre closing the tubes
>npcs just stand and stare at you
What was the point of that
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My big reason for getting into it is that my brother is a literal cod drone who bought a ps5 specifically for it, and I can't play that shit. I figured I could play this game, grind a bunch of goodies solo, and then feed him in pvp lobbies where we die every match. If the game has really addicting progression I may get hooked though.
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>>558720096
Alright thanks for the responses. I think I'll hold off because I did really play the fuck out of helldivers and need to chill for a while. I have a bunch of indieslop on my backlog to play in the meantime.
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>>558620004
It's a wide puddle, I like it but the gameplay needs more vertical depth to it. I feel like they could add something like heist-like maps with tons of puzzles, maybe even some kind of exoskeleton suit you can manage and bring out that shreds like hell but is a fire-and-forget tool that you can't take out every expedition.
It just needs a little bit extra going on in the layer of "loot what you can and scrabble over to any objectives/exit ASAP" to make the inbetween of that a little more varied and novel. It could be even something as simple as randomly place some NPC traps around the map so if you just blitz around like a retard you can get punished.
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>>558653924
Neo-new-neu bungie would fumble a golden goose if you gave it to them, and Marathon looks like shit. It would take an actual fucking miracle + everyone losing half their mind to get Marathon to be a success longer than the first week hype. At best it'll be floating around the toilet for 3-4 months before finally being flushed, but after Destiny 2 I will legit crash a car into any Bungie employee I see with the intent to end them.
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>>558719616
I don't think the cutscene or lore is shown in game but what happens is that a hurricane strong enough to flood Speranza is blowing through and there's new ARC that they can't identify so they have to shut down all the tubes ASAP to prevent any more flooding or any more raiders possibly being stranded out or a mystery new ARC following them back to Speranza.
Shani tells the tube guys to shut it all down the fuck now but your raider overheard that there's new ARC to hunt so he or she takes the last available tube out and nobody working there gives enough of a shit about you or their job to stop you or follow you into the hurricane which is why they're just chilling there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPaKRV76Tlc
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>>558723017
uh huh. yes, its over for arc raiders yes yes. now go migrate over here.
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>yfw proximity chat in Marathon literally doesn't even work
Kek, the PvPigger dev team didn't even fucking playtest proximity chat
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go to marathon general bro, out of respect
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>>558727605
I actually really like the art style and all the glitch tech shit, its just that the game feels really bad to play. I'll just watch lore dump videos on youtube and have someone else play that shit for me.
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>>558728561
>Well the PvP aspect of this game is dead for me
Good. The pvpjeets leave, the easier it is for me to camp the chunguses
I will be the one pvpjeet left, bwwuuuuahga agahaah AAHSHHGAAAA EEeeehhhehheeeher
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This game has endless meme potential and it's why it's huge on zoomer platforms like TikTok, and there's endless YouTube shorts. I can't see Marathon having that same appeal. What is there to meme about in it? Think about that image of the dude pumping gas worried about the niggers. There's an Arc raider version of that, and it works perfectly. Could you format that similar for Marathon? No.
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>considering the neglect towards balancing toro
They already announced that they're actively working on a balancing nerf for it and intend to release it in the near future. They also already nerfed other meta guns significantly too, making more things viable. Go play something else if you're bored; it's not that complicated.
>Is Tarkov hard to get into in 26?
It's autistic micromanagement and gear autism to an unfun point, and I say that as a diagnosed autist.
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>Tarkov
Tarkov is unbelievably shit.
>15 minutes waiting for a raid to start only to get killed 30 seconds In because someone rushed your spawn.
>Not knowing which of the 120 ammo types can actually pen armor without a gay guide
>Getting fucked because you lack map knowledge and walked into camp spots are unless you watch a gay streamer
>15 fucking minutes to load a raid
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>>558732137
self revives wouldnt even be good solos. i can see in team environments where if you get downed far from your team but the enemy team cant thirst you but in solo, the guy that downed you will just go up to you and kill you.
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>>558734093
I was really disappointed Speranza wasn't a physical hub world originally. But the more that I think about it I can't imagine how inconvenient it would be to have to go to the traders to sell, go to your base to craft and disassemble, go back to the traders because you need some crafting materials, etc.
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>>558734327
they said they wanted to add something, so I'm hoping if the do its optional and I can still do everything through the menus, but you can do it the "manual" way for flavor, or hanging out with your squad
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>>558734440
COD: WW2 (2017) had this because they wanted everyone to see your cosmetics and see you opening lootboxes in public. Honestly, it wasn't a bad concept as a side thing, but they fucked up without having a standard matchmaking UI at the beginning so you had to sit through extra loading screens and the bugged hub to actually get to matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUmuYi3mBzs
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I didn't think I would see juice force take a stray in this thread, of all fucking things. Why are you hating on juice force?
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I use a map online
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>>558741309
it's actually not a bad deal because each beer has the alcohol of almost two regular beers. the taste is bitter and acquired, but it's nationally distributed so I wouldn't really call it a hipster brew.
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Do story quests give creds? I need like 110 more for the beard and I'm running out of easy blue quests to do
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>>558736981
For me it was dream crusher, but alas, I stopped drinking too.
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>>558747616
what went right
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>>558745574
Peanut playing RV there yet and the group gangbang raping Cloakzy at the end was pure kino, nigga needs to play friendslop more often. I'd probably watch him more often if it wasn't Arc 24/7, although Marathon is by far the worst content he's ever done. Game isn't funny-bad like Tarkov, isn't a part time shill thing like Delta Force, it's just insanely boring and ugly and hard to watch.
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>>558647343
Woke DEI nigger faggot shit. Swedes are cucks.
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>>558649529
Its not a nuke it's another Arc- an Orbiter. Thats why the map is accessible after time runs out.
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>playing *** ******
>getting attacked
>there is no question in my mind whether it's a person or an Arc
>able to immediately assess the situation
>playing Marathon
>getting shot at
>is it another person or a robot
>can't even fucking tell
>doesn't matter, dead in two seconds
All the robots even look the same. A Bastion and a Bombardier are entirely different and you can tell from sound cues alone
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>>558770690
I watched him yesterday and he was mad the whole fucking time, and even ended the stream going
>yea I might have to change plans for tomorrow, I don't know if I want to play this again
So he clearly was planning on playing for the whole beta most likely
And got turned off by it in one day
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Peanuts chat shit on it for 8 hours straight
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>>558771328
There was nothing entertaining to watch
>finally gets his voice chat working
>gets down faster than arc raiders
>"SIRR SIRR, PLEASE SIRE, DO YOU HAVE A NIFTY DEF-"
>"Oh well they shot me twice to thirst me and I died in less than a second"
>"WEEELPPP"
>him and rogue and hutch all cracking up at how bad this is going
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>>558771328
kek, I screenshotted this last night before closing the stream. He ended up having a meltdown and ordered his mods to ban anyone talking negatively.
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>>558772001
At Bungie
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>>558772176
Kek. His fanbase being late 20s-early 30s means they will absolutely call out bullshit. Sometimes they're retarded, like when they shit on the few times he jams to good music, but they're on the ball this time. Absolutely goyslop
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>>558780972
why not both?
>>558780245
actually not sure. maybe a green assault rifle that isnt burst-fire? or maybe a DMR type gun?
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>>558781661
>why not both?
Then you end up like helldivers where there's 200 weapon options where 90% of them are meaningless sidegrades (or straight up garbage) and the other 10% are actually reasonable picks
It's just fag-tier bloat.
A better option would be to improve on the attachment system to introduce those sidegrades through personal customization.
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>why not both?
NTA but definitely could be a thing, if they get all the current stuff balanced, then adding new stuff and balancing that shouldn't be as much of a struggle or feel like its a waste
like they've added Trailblazer and Seeker grenades, and people love those and they haven't invalidated using other items
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>>558782221
>March 2026
>he only has 280 stash space
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>>558783681
only thing I needed to trade over was my extra Survival Mk3 blueprints
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>>558781661
>actually not sure. maybe a green assault rifle that isnt burst-fire? or maybe a DMR type gun?
you don't even know what you fucking want but you're asking if Embark is "really gonna make you wait for it"?
shut the fuck up retard
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>>558784332
>you don't even know what you fucking want but you're asking if Embark is "really gonna make you wait for it"?
well thats not my fucking job is it? im the consumer, all i know is i want new toys to play with, its on them to come up with something not me.
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I actually want to take a moment to praise Marathon for something. Playing that game made me appreciate Arc Raiders in a whole new light. Coming back to it was like slipping in a freshly made bed and taking the comfiest little nap you ever had. I never liked Arc Raiders more than when I played Marathon
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Wanted to suck off Arc Raiders again.
>playing Marathon
>the slide is tied to some reverse stamina bullshit
>it isn't momentum based
>it's just a set animation with a set distance
The sliding in Arc Raiders is top fucking tier. It feels so good. You can ass slide down an entire hill in one go.
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>>558787820
I don't know why devs still do that fake slide shit
No slide has felt as good as the one in Titanfall and Apex, ARC is okay and used to be better until Embark nerfed it since fun movement is not allowed
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>be a DICE dev
>make the last good Battlefield (1)
>get burnt out from making annual slop
>leave and start your own studio
>make the only good extraction shooter on the market
>it becomes immensely popular
Was it really that easy?
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>>558788967
Doesn't seem that easy, the fact that they had to fundamentally change the game after years in development sounds like a nightmare, and making UE5 run well is no small feat. But when your team is composed entirely of level-headed white people, anything is possible.
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>>558789869
its one of those lightning in a bottle situations or whatever the kids say
everthing just works, and feels good, and the community is great
if arc had only sweats as the community, most people would probably be going the route of marathon right now
>huh, I guess going in with a kit is the wrong thing to do?
>guess I will only freekit then
>this game is pretty boring, not even sure what the gameplay loop is
>(because you never get to use your good gear)
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>>558791248
>Ehhh, It's more like a BR
in literally what way
>Battle Royale: game where you eliminate teams and jockey for position in order to be the last man standing at the end
>Extraction shooter: game where you go into the map, loot items for personal gain, and then escape
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>>558791527
In a metaphorical way.
I am merely mentioning that the loot isn't impactful nor interesting while being extremely plentiful at the same time, there's no "I have to gtfo NOW" moments as other extraction shooters have it.
Excluding a few items like the kinetic converter or the anvil splitter (which are somewhat underpowered for their rarity), all you're really doing is searching for a select set of materials like gunparts/springs/cpus/sensors or items that disassemble into them.
We got a new puzzle room on dam, but the junk in there isn't really worth the effort to then split the stuff inside when I can run around that poi and loot more junk in less time/craft if rom that junk; and you can't even do it in PvP lobbies (still wouldn't be worth it lol).
I think the words I'm looking for are "loot is too accessible and stake-less"
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>"fuck it guys, just this time lets rat"
>kill like 6 guys in some super smash bros melee shit
>all guys had normal, early loot stuff (we started the fight at 28 min)
>one guy had a fully stacked torrente IV, fully stacked tempest IV, 2 fully stacked Anvil IV and a few more guns
No post-expedition early start for you, faggot.
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>>558799574
Same. I feel bad for talking shit the last few weeks. I almost always have fun playing it. The core is so good. I essentially have no reason to play right now as I have more than enough for the expedition and am max level, but it's just fun to play. Also the community is unlike any other.
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Marathon grannies and furries lost. KYS faggots.
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>>558800274
No refunds marathon sisters. Where did we go so wrong?
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>>558802534
kind of disappointed tbqh. I would've enjoyed a richer marketplace of ideas.
It's like, World of Tanks and War Thunder benefit creatively from each other, because they both had to find their niche thanks to how identical they were on the surface.
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>>558802756
You can, but its not like arc raiders, so far nobody talks, theres no point in teaming up, even if you s save someone from the clankers they just shoot you for free loot and you die faster than arc raiders
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>>558802945
it also sounds stupid, but even down to looting is unfriendly
>Peanut starts looting a container
>Cloakzy runs up and just takes everything anyway as its loading on Peanut's screen
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>>558788967
>be a DICE ceo
>challenge your customers to accept their DEI USAID backroom propaganda grants, don't like it don't buy it
>get shitcanned
>start a new company and sell your team to China instead
>Now own two cosmetic storefronts with a barebones game attached to them
>Chinese cheat subscription services double dipping and making bank off the titles
>become promoted to shareholder
At least they didn't have to strong arm out Patrick and steal his shit like they did to Brain's PubG.
Just keep improving this and they can go the distance, don't fall for the scams like pubg or fortnite.
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>>558808251
It paradoxically makes playing a medic incredibly rewarding by offering no rewards or incentives for picking up random solo players. If the bombadier or bastion were one degree less lethal when caught out in the open, it'd also be less rewarding for the difficulty being too easy.
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>>558808251
The game has proved it can stand on its own two legs now and is good enough to not need to whitelist streaming cheaters.
I hope they get banned. They aren't beholden to selling their game to repeat offenders and supporting an rmt like Tarkov is stuck with.
There's so much good to start the next several years with, take away the market share from the Tarkov fluke. People don't have to put up with jank, second language quests that lead nowhere and a dedicated second screen on a wiki all the time.
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>>558808251
I really enjoy all the guns and uncertainty / tension going into each match. Sometimes you'll go in and its a casual match, others are more social, and some are high intensity due to arc or players. Looking forward to a few more expeditions.
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>>558812593
honestly yes after seeing marathon
and then reflecting on how much they've added in the last 2 months
its not a crazy amount, but its going to add up over time
apparently the hurricane is a permanent map condition, idk if coldsnap os too, but its nice to have it switching up and guessing they are planning more and more elements like that
someone pointed out the kit that recharges your shield is good for the hurricane, so they probably want to make more gamemodes like that where it makes different gear useful in unique ways
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>>558815506
I hope this is ironic shitposting
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>>558815716
sort of, i do genuinely believe he's indian because of >>558731023
it is an extremely indian coded ESL post
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>>558808251
Italo-cassettecore design. Outfits are ugly in a good way giving the game a unique identity. Grounded reality, dreams from a surviving society with amnesia constantly hounded by forces beyond their total comprehension. The lore and worldbuilding could use a bit more flavor, I'm sure that will come, but the game loop is solid. Social aspect is actually fun, met a lot of based people in the wild. Best of all: works on my machine
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>>558812593
>AH
>fail to fix anything
>cut mechanics or make them irrelevant
>smoothbrain-ify the whole game to "fix it"
>Embark
>a bit slow
>first big balance patch isn't a fucking meme
>multiple issues fixed, even if not in the best manner
Seems to be smooth sailing for now. The biggest sign is that they don't bend the knee to literal drooling morons, which is already impressive in the current industry.
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>marathon shills still shitting up the thread
I don't even dislike Bungie or Marathon but I recognize the shitposts from pajeets after learning about their dealings with other game studios. They are the worst shills ever because they instead of promoting their hired topic they just attack everything that isn't paying their cheques.
Once their contracts expire and the Marathon hype dies down a bit maybe these threads will be good again since the jeets will have no reason to be here and no no vpn rented.
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>>558818272
>>first big balance patch isn't a fucking meme
That's where you are wrong.
>nerfs OP weapons (kettle, Stitcher, Venetor)
>fails to nerf the absolute most OP weapon in the game (toro)
Also
>nerfs OP grenades (Wolfpack, showstopper)
>fails to nerf the most OP grenade (triggers)
And best of all
>buffs weapon based on pvp performance when said weapon has never once been used for pvp, ever
I'm not saying they are as bad as nArrowHead, but they are mighty close.
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>>558821490
Toro nerf is incoming btw, that's why
>they're slow
Ima be real triggers are not OP now (PvP-wise), it's the other nades that suck. You can dodge the entirety of them if your headphones are plugged in (both the unholster, throw, landing and activation have clear sound cues), or even dodge 90% of their damage on reaction.
The rules of engagement change a lot when we have TPP faggotry at hand, powerful explosives are a must have.
It's a different thing that they aren't supposed to work the way they do right now, and are actually supposed to be a manually activated trap (no trigger delay but long arming time), but I digress.
>bettina
Yeah that case is a bit 'tarded, just buff the damage and lower rof/handling. Weapon clearly struggles with the ammo econ.
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>>558823327
>the alt key is on your keyboard
except if they blow up too fast, which you can still do with triggers and they still deal a lot of damage even after the nerf. which is why they still are the only nades in use. buff the other nades, how? making them blow up even faster? then the entire game just turns into nade fest with less than one second reaction nades and just turns into baseball.
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It's the LOUDEST grenade in the game with a 1.5s detonation time. You have plenty of time, please plug in your headphones.
>inb4 I have to come out unscathed
A grenade that doesn't do as little as chip damage is useless because of angle re-taking. It simply doesn't work in a TPP environment.
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>>558825101
Yes but the biggest thing that makes it broken is the ability to arm it mid-air. Cool you dodge it but not your teammate and it nukes his health then another nuke drops and now he is down and 3 guys are pushing up on you. If it was a fuze, since the timer is longer, your team is pushed from the corner and the other team is moving up but they didnt immediately nuke your teammate with no skill involved. Asking to buff the fuze to match the ability to nuke a guy like the trigger seems backwards to me.
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>>558825101
The issue isn't the damage or range or noise. The issue is that if properly timed it will explode before it even hits the ground. Since they are so cheap carpet bombing an entire team with 6 of them is no problem and there really isn't any counterplay depending on positioning.
They just need to speed up the arm time again and make them only arm after landing.
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Also your webm doesn't mean shit since anyone with two braincells arms them well before they land at your feet.
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>>558826976
By the time a second triggers flies in none of you should be nowhere near the corner that's being naded.
By the time a third one flies in the chokepoint should be already counter-naded and you should have a teammate flanking the enemies (if trios) or prepare to anchor (duos).
I wouldn't mind them doing less damage, potentially leaving some shield up even if you're caught in the center of the blast, but they should consistently be chipping you a bit.
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Yes, and you can hear it BEEPING for the entirety of the 1.5s when it's flying through the air, if you are keen you can even hear the guy preparing to throw one as that also makes a noise.
>>558828002
Plug in your fucking headphones.
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>>558828086
>reddit spacing
>is retarded
>and you can hear it BEEPING for the entirety of the 1.5s when it's flying through the air
and now you have to guess where it is going, when it is detonating and where to roll
and then the next one and the next one and the next one and the- well you were already dead after the second one
spreadsheet warriors like you need to be killed violently
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>>558828086
>By the time a second triggers flies in none of you should be nowhere near the corner that's being naded.
People usually throw them around the same time, so that one slow teammate has if he is lucky 0.2 seconds to react to another nuke blowing up in his face. I agree the damage is fine, its the arming mid-air that is not fine. Think about it, big damage nades take some time to arm. Insta damage nades have a small radius and lower damage. The trigger has it all.
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>>558828517
That's on your teammate.
It's only different in a way that you should be looking for a sound cue instead of a visual one, is it really that hard for people? I used to dodge this shit before the nerf by the sound cue of someone lining up the throw, which to be fair was an exuberant example of sound whoring and was frankly egregious.
I would much rather react to the 1.5s of loud beeping than a "plop" followed by a 0.7s delay nuke.
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>>558808251
I like the used future aesthetic even though it's had a bad series of flops tied to the artstyle lately especially Starwars and yes Concord. It's also refreshing to play something that doesn't have fucking anime influence in it.
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>>558828086
>Yes, and you can hear it BEEPING for the entirety of the 1.5s when it's flying through the air, if you are keen you can even hear the guy preparing to throw one as that also makes a noise.
Your standing behind an air conditioner when you hear the beeping, which way do you run? Trick question there are 4 of them flying at you so you are fucked no matter what.
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>4
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>>558833665
KADINGA!
KABLOOZEY!
KABLAM!
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>sponsored
I get he's in a great position to line his pockets for a better future now, but it's pissing off his fans and I think the dude can float by making superchats on Arc Raiders. Maybe he has burnout though? He does play it like 12 hours a day
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>>558838154
someone posted a clip of him saying why he does it, he's just trying to have fun, politics have even come up in chat and he makes some stupid chat and moves on, he knows the audience he wants
says it in the second half of the clip
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eBOClCoUfWI
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>>558838460
Got alot of respect for this dude. He goes against every issue I have had with that narcissistic culture. Him shitting on Ninja within 5 minutes of meeting him pretty much sold me. He's in his own lane and untouchable.
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someone posted this clip in marathon general I think lmao
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>nightraid
>see some guy looting
>almost shoot
>ignore
>he comes up to me
>expect a gunfight
>hands me a blueprint
>thank him
>offers to team up
>fuck it, sure
>go with him the whole raid
>watch each others backs, he hands me another blueprint
>take out at least 6 shredders
>save 2 other raiders from getting killed
>extract together
based raid, thanks bro wherever you are
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>>558838864
>totally normal
>shit...
It's even better because I loathe that faggot Shroud. Imagine thinking you're hot shit for being a B tier CSGO player and meanwhile you can't even drive a car in real life.
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>>558838864
This might have actually sold me on this guy. Shroud is 32 and never got a fucking drivers license? How is that possible? He wasn't "famous" at 16. Wasn't he a kid who wanted to drive cars at one point like his peers? Fuck, as a man, browsing /o/ occasionally is a rite of passage. Cars are inherently cool. How can you have steamer money, and not desire having a nice rig to drive around with in your daily life?
>his wife is the driver in the household
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I am not even joking, if I met a 32 year old who has never had a driver's license, I wouldn't respect that person for even a fucking second. That is legitmately pathetic. 16 year old can get a license. When you're 16 you're naive and dumb as shit. Yet you're qualified for driving a 3000lb hunk of steel. Having your wife drive you around is really, REALLY sad. As if I would EVER trust a woman over myself to drive a vehicle.
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>>558839970
To be fair, he has played SO much Arc Raiders since it launched that he is probably desperately wanting to do something different since Arc Raiders hasn't exactly had any major updates since Stella. As a viewer though, Arc Raiders is immensely more enjoyable to watch. In fact, Marathons existence has only further bolstered just how well designed, and readable Arc Raiders is. It's so enjoyable to watch because it's so fundamentally clear to it's core what is going on at that current moment. Plus it has an actual community that understands how fun the proximity chat is. Peanut has clawed his way out of countless situations by just using proximity chat and nearby raiders being awestruck that they ran into him, and so they defib him and help him out. I haven't seen anything similar in Marathon. PvEcarebear or PvPigger aside, at the very least Arc has a community willing to use proximity chat to it's fullest limit. Whether it's negotiating your life or dropping N bombs. It isn't stale lifeless shoot on sight bullshit.
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Cloakzy and Hutch are the best people Peanut streams with, right? Hutch has thick skin and understands the schtick Peanut is going for, and Cloakzy is a bit more sensitive but almost said the nigger word on stream and is a certified monster at PvP in Arc Raiders. Gingy is cute and all but she is dumb as a fucking stump.
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>Peanut downed in marathon
>"SIR SIRRR KIND SIR, PLEASE, DO YOU HAVE A NIFTY DEFIBRIL-"
>"and he thirsted me in 2 shots"
>"and I have no gear again"
>"WEELLLLLP
>cloakzy: WELLLPPP
>hutch: WELLPPPPPP
>all of them start laughing their asses off
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>>558840762
Officer is the best, always has been, but it's not great when he plays Arc cause he's dogshit at it. Everything else is pure kino.
>rv there yet stream
>Nut: "Be right back guys, don't do anything without me."
>Officer: ".... Let's do things without him."
I dunno why, that shit had me rolling even harder than Officer raping Cloakzy.
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>>558840763
Meanwhile, in Arc Raiders
>Peanut and his squad get downed
>hops in proximity chat and starts talking
>they shit their pants because they ran into the biggest streamer in the world at the moment
>Peanut gets defibbed
>tells the other team to kill Cloakzy
>they do
>he laughs his ass off and extracts safely
I'm just not seeing Marathon having dynamic emergent moments like this. With such a high TTK, and such a lack of incentive to team up, it isn't happening. Hardcore Tarkov players love to trash Arc Raiders for pandering to a casual crowd, but by doing that the game has a much more diverse and interesting community that creates unique moments you just can't get in any other game.
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>>558840939
Probably. But then this thread would die, there's nothing to really talk about other than Arc's competition being absolute trash and essentially ensuring that Arc will never strive to be anything more than what it already is.
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>>558841027
The steam where they are hanging out together playing Halo is top tier.
>like a 14 hour stream
>both of them are way past drunk and stoned out of their minds
>Officer keeps passing out while playing
>Peanut doesn't even have the energy to put on the voice anymore
Considering they hang out together in real life, and Peanut bought him a 25k bike for Christmas, he must care about him. Officer and Gingy streamed with Peanut when he had like 5k viewers and the rest of the Tarkov community hated his guts
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Arc Raiders will be played for years right? Even though the player base has dropped a bit, it still retains a strong number. I just don't see it having any actual competition. Player loyalty goes a long way. Most people don't have time for multiple extraction shooters. They will invest their time into only one.
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>>558841909
I'm sticking with it with you guys, I'm ready for expedition 2
I kind of only put all m time into one game anywy, and theres not really much other stuff to play thats fun
Arc Raiders showed me I like extraction shooters, except the PvP part, so I guess i just like whatever Monster Hunter is, but marathon general anons recommended me Cargo Hunters and Forever Winter to try out
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>>558841047
People in this game love to use their mic and are very sociable. Quite the opposite from silent the silent pvpbots in Marathon. And that is not a dig at PvP or PvE, even PvP is more livlier in Arc whether its trash talking or people raging they got downed. I am not hearing a single damn thing in Marathon.
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>>558839979
That's the thing with a lot of these streamers, they get an ego taking advantage of lonely viewers and chatters. It's only natural to become attached to things that you focus on and when you get home from work and invite a stranger into your home via your screen and grow attached to that person or character, these bastards just soak in all that unearned affection and start raking in their money.
It's the worst with women and vtubers, since they play up and prey on that even moreso and since they become their idols of worship it becomes dangerous because they have to be a perfect being and since they are just a woman they eventually crack and either cause trouble themselves or their lonesome fans will, they are all time bombs whereas male streamers just fall off.
Most streamers are beneath their viewers, a clerk at mcdonald's does more than signed streamer shill #911. Don't ever look up to these people, they have nothing to offer and ask for a lot and looking up to them automatically puts you beneath them. Especially if they are willing to be scum for a dollar.
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we got a burntpeanut except he is a chungarthian
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GXVUTJ0E9kg
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Why did my comfy solo PvE lobbies suddenly turn into a shitter fest
Is it because it's the weekend? There's always at least one shithead that shoots people in the back from afar.
I thought you don't get matched with players like that if you're not aggressive yourself?
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>>558858225
matchmaking seems to soft reset after patches and major patches
also seems to have some sort of karma decay, so you only stay in those lobbies if you keep playing that way, but does seem to go away over time
also since the devs confirmed ABMM, there are a lot of players exploiting to get into friendly lobbies in order to shoot them
so likely nothing you did and you just have to keep playing the way you have been and you'll likely be placed into those 100% friendly lobbies again
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>>558858225
>Why did my comfy solo PvE lobbies suddenly turn into a shitter fest
As someone who occasionally dedicates a day to PvP only, a quarter of my solo matches will put me into friendly lobbies. The games matchmaking is kind of fucked.
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I think medics are more psychopathic than the PVPers or even the rats. It's occured to me after playing nothing but the only good boss in the game Matriarch over and over for about 30 hours over a few days. I filled up my stash with 20 cores over the first few hours, and then just stopped caring about anything but running as a medic to pick people up. Those Thank Yous and I Love You Bros I get when going out of my way to revive someone are gratifying for obvious reasons. There are are whole lobbies of people who understand. I don't get that anywhere else in my life. Not by people who in the moment genuinely mean it. When people beat me to revive others, I'm annoyed. They stole my limelight. One girl even said I Love You to the guy who picked her up before me. That could have been mine.
Eventually I stopped bringing my launcher because the Matriarch was dying too fast. Sub 5 minutes at times. 10 average on shitty Battleground spawn. And barely anyone goes down during these except greedy retards who sprint to the corpse with a bombadier still active. I have way more fun in newbie lobbies where no one has the kit to deal with the minions. I load up with 9 syringes per match and have a blast picking people up. I could be dealing with the threats, but no. It's far more addictive to be the one to save people and even get rewarded by dropped loot or their whole guns for me in return, assuming I'm poor. I sell everything for more syringes and bandages. I'm fueled by player suffering. It's even better when a rat is present picking people off for kicks. Thank you. I get kicks picking them up. Nothing feels better than being showered in even micless quiet praise of a gesture. I'm sick. I think I'm the sickest one compared to even the attention whore camper. I want you to down. I will orchestrate and not warn you of anything so you'll go down. And I want you to praise me for it.
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>Signed up for Expedition and $5M stash get
>Shared Watch done
>Finished in Hotshot
>Completing the new project before reset is wasteful
>Tried the new content, looted some caches and the new Dam room.
Is there any reason to play at all right now? Or is it time to play other shit?
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rats are destroying marathon https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1772273934622907.webm" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1772273934622907.webm
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>>558865505
Me but in Arma Reforger.
Love rolling into action in my comfy ambulance, popping smokes, dragging friendlies from under heavy fire, stabilizing them & healing near fatal wounds.
I would occasionally put some YT in the background, make tea with lemon and enjoy my cozy evenings like that.
I suggest you try it too, being a medic in Arma is very enjoyable, especially on modded servers.
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Fuck the mic echo bug
Fuck people that loot shit from ARCs you solo
Fuck "squad mates" that don't res you
I've only begun playing this week and I'm already mad enough to quit, at least for now.
How do y'all deal with retards in this game?
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>"GUYS BE CAREFUL WHEN TRADING STASH"
>"PEOPLE ARE LOSING INVENTORIES OF ITEMS"
>shows pic of people finding full inventories of value that obviously died on way to extract
told you guys, triple safe pocket is the way
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don't tell celeste
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>>558877231
no healing or shield chargers or stims, could have been retarded enough to just die to arc
other thing was suiciding was nerfed or toned down, so they could have still been in hostile duo lobbies and for some reason didn't run straight for the hatch
obviously they made a mistake somewhere and didn't prepare (either loading in completely naked not even a gun, not even bringing a hatch key)
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Other than this >>558880097
I simply shoot ninja looting rats, I can fix my MM later.
Also, why would you play with random retards? Queue in solo if you are a friendless loser...
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>>558875651
>Fuck people that
havent had the mic echo bug personally, but sounds annoying
>Fuck people that loot shit from ARCs you solo
honestly guess that the whole loot thing is just part of the game, you have the option to kill that guy, or dont
meanwhile in marathon, Peanut will be looting a rare container or body, and Cloakzy can just come up and loot the same container and take all the stuff before peanut can
at least in this game Bastion drops like 100 parts to loot
>Fuck "squad mates" that don't res you
thats just unfortunatly what happens when you fill queue with randoms, one guy is stoned, and one guy is black
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>>558884051
yeah, I'm definitely ready
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>go ~30-40 matches without firing a single bullet
>suddenly dropped into one where literally everyone shoots on sight, flares popping up everywhere
Sometimes I really dont get how this works... I actually had to sneak around like a peasant...
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>>558887098
The running animation in this game looks so goofy. I know you are meant to be some stupid bumbling androgynous robot thing, but it's too bouncy and looks retarded especially for how slow the run speed is.
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>>558887098
I stole that webm from a shill on /v/ and posted it in /mg/ as bait, now you stole it from me to bait here... impressive.
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>>558889912
yea its funny
>>558890030
nah that game is full pvp, it's probably me and a few other guys just having some fun, that Klem tard that posts here ratting people, was posting his ratting webms there and acting like it would piss the thread off thinking they were all friendlies, and they just called him retarded
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is peanut gonna be streaming slur saturday on arc raiders today?
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>>558890914
he is paid to play marathon today (he announced it), and I think he played enough hours that the game isnt "bad" for him anymore, so he can kill noobs over and over again now, which is his entertainment I guess
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OP here, got beat by five seconds mmove to here>>558891362
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