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The Nightmare is ongoing... >>558588435
>Tiphera (NEW) Character PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg1sP1WIWlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JMu-LIhuQ
>Balance Adjustments for Season 2
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077
>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Dev notes 02/04
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929
>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant
>Current Featured Banner
[ Tiphera ] Order - Controller
Rate Up Period: 02/25/2026 - 03/18/2026
>Upcoming Featured Banners
Presumably Rita, the catgirl
>Current/Upcoming Events
Spiral Tower of Screams (Beta)
New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026
>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
>Deckbuilders
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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I was planning to build a Nine Hew Extreme deck but I noticed Hew Flash loses cost on Exhaust, indicating a good synergy with Tiphera.
Think I should still grab the Coubterblade upgrade that activates every turn? Or that this epiphany that increases damage would be better since Tiphera is consistently reducing the cost?
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>>558663547
I really like this kind of clingy serious personality. Specially since lately she has been more vicious with screws loose.
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>>558663547
She's just a Kuudere/Tsundere. She's alright. Not my favorite, not the worst. They clearly wanted her to be voiced by Yui Ishikawa (2B), but that didn't happen.
Yui Ishikawa is voicing the girl in their other game, Miresi. The one that they reused CZN's original plot base for after they lobotomized CZN's story.
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>>558663667
>That counterblade is way better for a flash build, yes
Alright I’ll keep this one then and when I farm an Extreme I’ll use the one of each turn
> using extreme and the 5 cost fatal strike since it also has synergy with tiph on the leaderboard.
Holy shit. Noted.
Thanks.
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>>558663745
(And that's a good thing)
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>>558663860
>same publisher (SmileGate)
>CZN loses its timeloop gimmick in last minute rewrite
>Miresi's plot is literally the same fucking thing that CZN was supposed to have gotten, but didn't due to last minute rewrites
It's not rocket science, bro
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>>558663547
I like her.
Obviously shes the one we have seen the most of, but shes probably my favorite character.
Her design is great, her gameplay is really cool, animations are nice, I like her personality. Shes great.
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>>558663393
Her pussy isn't fat enough.
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Yes.
>>558664193
I have no agenda besides the truth. It looks like a piece of shit game. It's just Horizon Walker, but with a potentially higher budget. It does, however, seem to have CZN's original story, while CZN lost its original story during last minute rewrites. Can't help but notice.
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>>558663547
Yeah. I like her design, she's fun to use, especially when you fire off a hand full of dirge bullets, and she's fun in the story. She's my favorite combatant.
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managed to salvage this deck at the end
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>>558663731
Her ass
Fashion sense
Violence
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>>558663547
She needs to have moments where she becomes dere or her fassade slips otherwise just throw her off the ship.
Completely worthless wasted character.
When she died she could have said that she loves the captain instead she said some super retarded shit.
Complete waste to use her as the face of the game, could have used Mei Lin or Magna.
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>>558665774
I have never remembered that this mechanic even exists outside of when it is first introduced and you need to eat for one of the beginner missions.
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>>558666371
They do actually have that. I'm this person btw: >>558666265
I remember the tutorial and everything, I just never manage to remember to eat food.
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Newcuties...
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>>558667209
bwo... I'm a day 1 player...
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>>558667209
I started playing the weekend after this game launched, so like day 2 or 3 or 4
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>>558667665
Shit. So new set + crit damage then? Or do I keep this defense set?
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Post your Nine please, I would like to compare if possible
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Is mine good then?
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>>558668292
Crit chance% is almost always the correct choice in every single character that aims to deal damage. So crit chance% + new set is probably her best in slot.
Defense sets are better for defense based characters that don't have ideal 4pcs or supports. Tiphera loves the defense set for instance.
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not gonna lie, it really bothers me. It was clear CZN turned into their side game and had no faith on it so they reused the story elsewhere. Now after it proved to be profitable they give it the attention it deserves, but the damage is done. We won't get all the actual body horror and slightly more thought out story they prepared.
I hope the 3D game sucks ass. I don't want to see them using the shit we should have got in the first place. Hyulla sucks too, I don't know how he still gets hired.
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>>558668497
>won't get all the actual body horror
I thought the plant god plot point of this season would lead to those sprites being used, but I guess we're just never getting any kind of horror in the game again
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I just had some insane luck on the Standard banner (2 Orleas, a Narja, a Chizuru and a Renoa in the last 50-60 pulls) and I realized... I'm fucking retarded...
I shouldn't be using the Standard pulls should I? It's more big brained to hoard them for whenever you wanna attempt getting a banner you missed... Or maybe even a Partner...
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>>558669108
>and I realized... I'm fucking retarded...
>I shouldn't be using the Standard pulls should I?
Look man, let's say you were retarded, well you being retarded got you 2 Orleas, a Narja, a Chizu chu, and a Renoa in 60 pulls. That doesn't sound retarded to me, that sounds incredible. If, though, at any point you end up having every 5* character, then maybe it's a good idea to start saving your Standard pulls at that point. But you have a luckgod accounts seed so you're probably set no matter what you do.
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>>558669108
The game's not even six months old and the standard banner is so polluted that I don't see much point in having any particular strategy in it. Just pull when you have enough orange anchors, in my opinion. Hell, I've been playing since launch and I still haven't managed to pull Khalipe.
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Alright. I think this is all I can do for now. Ran out of credits
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>>558669616
Neat. That alone should deal significantly more damage than your previous set despite your slightly inferior stats. Now it's a matter of rolling equips and gradually replacing your worst pieces.
The glaringly weakest points are the crit damage and crit%, but that's a pain to optimize becuase of the substat slop.
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I've never had THIS high a concentration of 5-stars before tbdesu. Just double FULL-MAX pittied in Endfield for Yvonne.
But the point is dupes don't seem that overpowered in CZN and I already had those 2 characters. I was mainly rolling for the return gibs currency to convert for limited rolls.
Is it a good idea to roll for the Partners? I dont have a single 5-star Partner.
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>Just double FULL-MAX pittied in Endfield for Yvonne.
That's me in this game for literally every character I pull for.
>I was mainly rolling for the return gibs currency to convert for limited rolls.
THAT is stupid though.
>Is it a good idea to roll for the Partners? I dont have a single 5-star Partner.
No. If you absolutely must have a 5* Partner (as f2p) then buy it with those 300 DNA strand things that you seem to be wanting to turn into Limited pulls for some stupid reason.
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would you say sacrificing the 4th copy of GA worth the spore and gear bag?
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>>558665774
Thanks for reminding me this exists
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>>558669890
The 5-star partners are highly combatant dependent, and you can't pick the partner you want on the standard banner. Not recommended unless you want to build one particular character, and you'd use the shop for that even then.
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As a general rule, don't roll for Partners. If you save up 300 of those pink DNA strands you get from rolling, you can directly exchange for them. I'm willing to break that rule on rate-up banners sometimes, like with Tiphereth's sister, but the standard banner has so many partners in it that you'll never get what you want from it.
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these are bad decks
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>be me
>have about 60 pulls until pity
>nothing will happen, right?
>do 10 pulls for a cassius dupe
>waste a guarantee on a character that's gonna stay benched at least for a while
oh well, she's cute
still, what a fucking retard
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>that you seem to be wanting to turn into Limited pulls for some stupid reason
300 of that currency is 30 rolls...
In every other gacha game it's most worth to convert to rolls.
Is it really better to use them for partners in CZN?
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Does that mean as long as Nine is the sole DPS she will have a permanent buff? Or that she is also included in “ally” and nobody can attack at all for a turn?
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>300 of that currency is 30 rolls...
Lil gup...
300 strand of DNA converts into ANY 5* Partner you want (except the Limited which they told us wasn't going to exist)
Rolling on the 5* Partner banner... do you think you can get a 5* in only 30 rolls?
And if you save to 400 strands, you can convert it to a dupe of ANY 5* you want (except the Limited which they told us wasn't going to exist)
Buying a dupe this way can be "worth" anywhere from 70-140 rolls, which is an insane value if you're dead set on getting the dupe this way
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>>558672393
Signature partners have the same chances as SSRs. So it’s either 30 vague rolls, a guaranteed sig or saving the equivalent of 40 rolls for a dupe
Regardless of what you want, the latter 2 are more valuable than the first one unless you are close to pity and really need it.
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WHY DIDNT THEY MAKE THEM ACTUAL LOLIS LIKE THIS WTF SMILEGATE
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Qell shit
Also thanks for the suggestions. I’ll aim for those then
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>>558673863
Is that...
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does this beryl potential node works on the extra atk opening found build that is currently the meta?
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I have been searching and reading. It triggers on “card damage” regardless of who activated it but it doesn’t work if not direct damage. For example:
>Anyone used something that causes Fixed Danage straight away; you don’t get the bonus
>Your card has the +Agony debuff; you still get bonus damage because you card created a debuff which then causes damage
It seems Veiled Thorn was meant to help Counterattack builds as it counts as a Buff that Deals damage later. I’d wager Extra Damage through Beryl’s Retain is under the same principle as Counterattack
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>>558663667
Yo it’s GREAT. I had already beaten him with Hew Ironclad but with Hew Flash + Tiphera I killed the fucker on record time AND with a ton of health. I could often spam these cards without care.
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>>558677545
There isn’t. At most we narrow down to a specific unit. Nine and Tiphera are just easier because they have a bunch of Uniques so the options automatically exclude those and narrow down the selection.
Hell in my last run, Tiphera only had 2 Copy options whenever they popped up
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>5 Deletions
ezpz, practically guaranteed as long as you have enough credits
>4 Copies
Seems to be maybe a 50/50 coinflip, and with the Zero buff that lets you choose the character that gets the copy, along with how easy it is to delete cards, you can very easily guarantee 3 copy decks, with the 4th copy being RNG, but guaranteed if you do get it
>Epiphany you want
Still fucking impossible. Meditation is a scam. Might as well refund that part of the talent tree, because it's never going to be useful. The best you can hope for is to Meditate into something slightly less shit. You are never Meditating into the epiphany that you actually want. Ever. Not happening. There are way too many generic epiphanies for that to happen. It is still the same amount of RNG, and I don't even think that Meditating gives you better odds, you either get it your first shot or you waste all of your credits for the rest of the run still not getting it
>Epiphany you want + Divine epiphany
Fucking impossible. Don't even dream about it.
>Epiphany you want + the Divine epiphany you want.
You better be paying some Indonesian kid $30/day to farm your account for 8-12 hours, and you better hope he actually knows how to play the game kinda, because that's the only way this is even remotely feasible.
>Epiphany you want + Divine you want + equipment enchantments that you want
Might as well just kill yourself, because not even an army of Indonesia kids piloting your account 24/7 could roll this.
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>>558663547
I like her design even if she's fully covered She's got a cool revolver. Medium premium gropeable breasts. I like tsunderes.
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I usually remember the second I click enter chaos
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for anyone that played since start this isn't really much of an achievement.
I only recently had a stroke of luck, before that most of my pulls were soft pity.
I'm only lacking Narja, Rin, Yuki and Haru and still have my Merit.
With Mei Lin, Orlea and Khalipe sitting at Ego+1 and I even have a 5 star partner.
I could've forced Narja easily, my mistake for thinking I should save up on pulls.
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>for anyone that played since start this isn't really much of an achievement.
I've been playing since the start and I have to pity everything. I double pitied everything I rolled for except Nine, who I still had to roll the full 70 on. I should have rerolled for a better account seed.
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>>558678504
Wait she only has one gun? I thought she was dual wielding
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>Epiphany you want + Divine epiphany
>Epiphany you want + the Divine epiphany you want.
You can just get the divine epiphany you want and use remanifestation. That being said, I wish they gave more of that shit out so I can use them liberally.
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>>558678653
Were you tricked by this?
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>You can just get the divine epiphany you want and use remanifestation.
>get the divine you want
>we only have seven (7) coupons
>at least 4 of them are gibs
>one came from the event shop
>don't remember where the other 2 came from
>if we're super lucky, the last shop has another one
>maybe we get 2 of them per season
>...you used 4 of them already
>you only have 3 now, maybe 4 by end of season
>you can only make one more deck
>then you have to wait 6 fucking months to be able to make one (1) more deck
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Alright guys is there a good guide for making decks? I still am making SHIT decks and can't get too far in weeklies cus of it. Borderline mental retardation here, I thought starters were 20->30->40 per remove, but I never understood the reason to convert then remove UNLESS it's for a unique card so that it's cheaper, as long as it's not epiphanied.
But I saw someone say it's 20 per starter now? Have things changed and I'm just dumb?
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>>558679372
Do yourself a favor and look at this.
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either it means your allies not using a card (should be easy to check and would be pretty op).
But we have other items with a more concise effect saying that an ally doesn't use their attack card.
It might actually mean that, if an ally uses an attack card that does no damage (blocked dodged)
If the latter is true, I wonder if it works with something like Cassius
0cost that deals as many hits as AP cost
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>>558679201
Yes!
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Beats me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2QCg01f0_c
>70K damage on turn 2
Nice game CZNbabs
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So if I failed to get Tiph on this gacha, I can guarantee the slave girl in 3 weeks?
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>>558679662
Please stop I'm already dry just from doing Chaos runs with her.
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>so easily
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I made this one for flash. It spams your deck so fast with tons of archtypes. Just wish I got AP on those seeds. Easily took out dungeon 11 with it
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>>558681559
Fuck you, I have tiny baby hands
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Finally something I can be happy with
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Glad that Mika the WHORE got fully replaced by Tiph the cutie.
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The retarded Rift boss getting stunned fot only ONE fucking turn has to be the most nigger mechanic in this Kusoge.
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Great videogame
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>>558685774
Convert
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>>558685768
https://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2026129957680714107
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>get my ideal decks
>still not even close to the rank 1 guy
Good grief
This might be about as far as F2P can go
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>>558663547
You tell me.
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only my 2nd Sereniel deck in this new Chaos, Nine runs are so much more enjoyable
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>>558687467
Show stats/decks too if you have the time to spare please.
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>>558687543
The interior boss also having the soft enrage mechanic makes it pretty difficult because your initial 2nd turn or so is cut short and then you have to go balls to the walls the next few turns. I had many runs with Chizuru work out well because she just can build her bind stacks even during the off turn when the boss is invincible, but with Sereniel being the sole dps it's pretty hard
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>>558687680
My Nine's stats (only one that matters)
You can check the decks in game
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Thanks bro
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>>558688023
Thanks brother.
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I was more curious bout the stats I guess..
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>>558680698
man he really hates tiph, going as far as liking comments shitting on her/skipping because of her clunky kit or hebe design
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>>558688883
pretty much likes everything
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>only 2nd attempt
well that was easy
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>>558689720
I can't remove any more cards
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>>558689869
It's cool, doesn't matter that turn 1 hand isn't the best anyways since I'm starting with this monstrosity of a deck on the same team >>558656854
The setup should be about two turns long and then we're taking a shit on the rift boss.
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Tiph is shit to play,
Boring because her abilities are so self contained and she really needs those copies and removals before she can reliably generate artifacts.
Trying to build her in chaos is straight up unfun because she is a dead weight until the end of the run.
Grok give me a twintail anime blonde for 50
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her 1 cost attack is retardedly good, its 160 shield 160 heal for 1. I find her obnoxious to farm because so much rides on quantum sneed getting a divine and every deck that doesnt get one is cope trash.
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I feel you, but she really is just a support for most of the run like Mika, only she has access to way flashier stuff with a bit of rng. She is buffing people when you just play her cards, which at first give an impression that they are just clunky before later into the run, but in reality she is healing, giving shields, giving action points and also buffing your team. You also get access to all the exhaust synergies in the new chaos with her
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make some sloppa with this one
https://civitai.com/models/2372206/il-the-mysterious-girl-rita-or-chao s-zero-nightmare
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>>558680698
So Tiphera is just a solitaire goldfish deck
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This hammer effect doesn't work for other combatants, right?
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We are SO fucking BACK
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ok do you want me to kill myself now or later then
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>SOUZOU NO CHIKARA YO
>SOUZOU NO CHIKARA YO
>SOUZOU NO CHIKARA YO
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you can't recycle played cards outside of "move" keywords and the only one i can think of that can repeatedly do that is sereniel's laser which is capped to the enemy tenacity breaks.
Mei and i'm sure others have cards that "move" too but in those cases you can't recycle the move skill card. Its pretty noticeable if you use Yuki where you can't redraw the attack card you used.
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If only I had a vuln source on my second team....
I need to think this through.
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Actually, the damage seems to mostly come from having 9ap, rolling until it RNGs into costing 9ap, and then playing the 9ap version. He has a run where he has WAY more modifiers stacked, but he only has 6ap and only RNGs the 5ap cost, and it only does half HP, which still would not have killed if he crit (he didn't crit).
The 2 turn run where he one shots the boss has less +damage modifiers, but the 9ap is just a fuck ton more damage and still 1 shot with crit anyway.
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>lewding the Narja while everyone watches
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A Marshall of the Empire
Surprise buttsecks
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What are people using to babysit chaos runs reliably if they don't have Narja and/or Nine?
I have Sereniel but I actually just lost a run to the final boss where laser attack spam triggered his final stage way too early. I'm clearing the rest of the run easily. Is there any item or card I can look for to help with the final fight?
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What exactly influences a character's breakdown? I have some runs with 1 or 2 breakdowns and then I have runs with constant, non stop bitching and moaning and breaking down over literally nothing, over and over again. Every turn they get stressed over a leaf being blown by the wind. Come the fuck on... Losing a run due to non stop nonsensical breakdowns just isn't fun at all.
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I think it's like every turn you gain stress and also taking unshielded damage you get stressed and also whatever the individual character's gimmick is you get stressed. I normally only have 1 character break down per run
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i just ran the deity runs and rolled to get nihilum each time because it's the easiest one, then i ignored everything but went straight for the upgraded (the ones with fire? next to an icon) fights because they give the thingies needed to upgrade
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Phase 1 is a mind numbing autoplay with sereniel that takes 10 minutes for no fucking reason, and then phase 2 can either go smoothly or go to absolute shit in a matter of two turns and is extremely dependant on draw order. And to retry that, you have to get through phase 1 AGAIN.
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okay, but it is useful?
if i want to play someone serious ill get them to 60 anyway, or?
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I got Yuki today and had already used all my green potentials on Tiphera. Using synchro, she’s now almost maxed.
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>some are typical with Rei and Mika now fighting better with the Captain
>Tiphera has one claiming everything is easy, this causes an influx of monsters with Nine commenting it’s straight after she said to jinx it
>Skyrim Grave robber
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I have TWO questions regarding the giganigger rift boss.
First, how does the interaction between Nine and the vuln Hammer work? It says that if you activate a 3 cost or higher card a random enemy gets 1 vuln. So if you play Hew and the only enemy is the boss' head, you activate it, it gets one vuln, and then you deal the damage, correct?
Second, how are the top performers dealing the most damage? Are they videos of high scores available? Are they taking one turn to gimp both arms and then other turn to deal damage to the head, or are they dealing damge to the head every single turn of the fight?
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>It says that if you activate a 3 cost or higher card a random enemy gets 1 vuln. So if you play Hew and the only enemy is the boss' head, you activate it, it gets one vuln, and then you deal the damage, correct?
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I just feel annoying reading this shit
Why is she saying this and not me? What the fuck is this?
The first part was much better, season 1 story was better too
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>>558680698
This future tranny had a legitimate existential crisis over seeing the panties of a cute girl.
https://www.youtube.com/live/crrEokPrizA?si=yaNZRGfR3_B1o0A3&t=3698
Posting his faggot ass here should be an instant permaban.
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Then, does this work? >>558711315
Otherwise I have no fucking clue how the #1 is there when he has no vuln source except for the hammer.
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>renoa in early story
>one of the best solo agent to exist, never fazed by anything, reliable, calm and almost always hides her emotions
>renoa in the current story
>SHIT at her job, panicks every time the MC isn't here to spoonfeed her, constantly sperging out, gets mogged by a random mercenary
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??? I am going to the planet with them and I am in that room where Renoa gives those commands, it has a voice line interaction with Alcea
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this is why i don't like her, they wrote her like she's meant to be one of the best, one who's seen everything and can take everything yet the moment anything happens to you she turns into an over emotional retard
sure that's just
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but her writing in the early story and her writing in the events have been so drastically different its hard to stomach
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Thank you, that should help.
I imagine no high score videos are out... yet. It's difficult to imagine people one shotting the hands and still having enough real estate to hit the head for big damage 10 times in a row.
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the game refuses to give it to me, at this point i might give up and just use 3 flashes on her deck
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The good part of Dual Creation 1 is that you can combine it with the create 1 of your choice in hand and the same one in the deck to have a 3rd one on the discard pile, which allows you to hyperfocus on one of the 3 shapes at will
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That's nothing for an imperial marshall. Watch THIS.
https://files.catbox.moe/nifjbs.png
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Kono kurai nara mondai arimasen
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The problem is that now you end up with two extra cards on your deck that can end up in your draws if you can't find a way to get them this turn, it can be a little awkward so I lean more towards the general use one.
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>no fan artists
>Dwindling playerbase
>Jp players have moved on
>Dead social media
>Discord is the same 10 guys talking
>Tiph is the s2 yuki
New update and it did nothing to course correct. Hell even Stella sora is doing better now. The story rewrite update will probably decide whether the game lives or dies and, seeing how they keep fucking up, I don't have high hopes for it
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>Get E1 Yuki from Nine banner
>Get E2 Yuki from Tiphera banner
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it helps that stella sora's story is genuinely quite fun to read although i really wish they'd stop releasing tit monsters. They also just get content at a much faster pace than CZN. I think the seasonal patch being so dragged out just kills all excitement for anyone + the story rewrite hell means they're wasting time writing shit no one will care about instead of just continuing the story.
Stella Sora had 2 main story chapters on release. Right now it has 6 (launched 1 week before CZN), it also has 12 trekker stories (side stories basically for faction/chars) and has had a bunch of event stories. The content drought in CZN is just too much, this game is turbo carried by having amazing gameplay.
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could be worse bwo
could be so much worse
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I agree that Stella Sora's gameplay might as well be nonexistent. I think the characters are quite cute though, the FeMC especially and I like that they actually give her a cheeky personality. It's story is unvoiced which is a huge bummer but if it means releasing stuff that's actually good at a timely manner, maybe it's for the better.
Mind you I think the biggest issue SS has is that yeah - the story should be voiced lol. I can't believe there's a gacha game launched at the end of 2025 with no fucking voiced story, genuinely insane to me.
Regardless, I'd rather read a good unvoiced story than sit through a bad voiced story and CZN's story is fucking terrible and releases at a snail's pace.
However I'm also not retarded enough to say SS is doing better than CZN, that game (SS) is gonna EOS in like a year or something cuz that shit makes no money lmfao.
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>bwo
where's your cat
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I think my only real issue with Tiphera right now is that she doesn't have any Initiation variants for Quantum Seeds. It makes running Chaos with her annoying if you aren't trying to deckbuild for her, because nine times out of ten, Quantum Seeds is at the bottom of the draw pile whereas Event Horizon and Form Convergence are the first cards I draw.
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>Booru stats
>Newest Stella art
>16 hours old
>Newest czn art
>4 days ago
I know it's unfair to make art comparisons but the reality is that czn just isn't popular. It's been held up by west because the gameplay was really good but the west is unreliable and now that audience is leaving
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Yeah but CZN also makes more money than stella sora ever will because stella sora fumbled it's launch so fucking badly that they had to go full damage control. With CZN the launch was fumbled due to incompetence and the gameplay is really good so people are willing to stick around and give the devs a pass, with Stella Sora the launch was fumbled due to sheer greed on yostar's end and that just doesn't sit right with people so I don't think people are nearly as lenient/forgiving with SS as they are with CZN
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>jerking off every day
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>do you not jerk off multiple times per day?
the OVERWHELMING majority of people don't
in fact most people jerk off once or twice A YEAR
doing it multiple times a day is insanely out of the ordinary
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I think theres more of an issue with the power scale going off the charts in just a few months.
>Renoa/Nine are excellent agents with a reputation
>now they're working with people that can destroy planets.
It just dwarfs anything next to it, and they've done this twice now. The next character is probably the time traveling cat and she is probably even more ultra powerful somehow. now I'm wondering how there is an issue with chaos when the game has thrown us two people at this level, as if they are everywhere, and mentioned there are multiple more and some beyond.
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>>558720356
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Which is fine for save content. But like I said, if I'm using her in Chaos but I want to focus on building a deck for someone else instead of her, half the time I'm not even seeing her Archetypes and she doesn't get to contribute much. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Nine having an idiot-proof dogwalking build with her auto-Hew Ironclad setup, but it'd be nice to have something more reliable.
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There's also the fact that characters are simultaneously described as incredibly strong and shown as dogshit
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>every single nine in the leaderboards is using hew (extreme)
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Sounds like it'd be useful for a two-support build where all you want to do is enable ignition effects like that five-cost Fatal Strike card. But for a more general build, I think most of her other versions of this card are better.
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You either run veronica with 4 reposes or you rune draw 1 divine epips on both your supports. Tiphera doesn't add many cards to the deck either because in optimal build she draws her own cards as soon as she makes them.
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that's not even the fucked up part, it's actually timing it so that the lvl5 hew extreme hits the face. which you have no control over at all with E0 and very limited control with E1 unless you have the instant level to final pipis which most players don't have.
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4 ap (4 fighting spirits) + 5 (hew 4 + 5) shouldn't be too hard to do if you have +ap divine epips or run tiphera (or both). You can also have the auto-play counterblade so you only need 6 AP
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it's late im tired gomen
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Tiphera adds no cards to the deck, yes. But the thing here is that if you have 3~4 sneeds and 1 mythic (everyone does), that's 4~5 cards that, while they add a lot of gas, they do nothing on their own AND take AP to play. Every single one of those cards are -1 fighting spirits. And you don't have infinite reposes either, nevermind that repose cannot draw other reposes. I just don't get how people can have 15 card hands, that's why I'd like to know if people are slamming the head every turn or every other turn. Which would make sense, but I don't know how points scale.
I got 915k points and I only managed to hit the head twice with some stinky flash hews. At which point does the score start diminishing its returns and how many times do you have to hit it to get to 1.2M?
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Oh so you're this guy?
Thanks, that helps a lot, I really needed to know that.
I don't have orlea like you so in that regard I'm kind of fucked. Perhaps I'll take a 4 card Nine deck (hew extreme, 5 cost fatal strike, counterblade and 1 spore generator). I was thinking on using Nine/Rei/Tiphera with a 6 card hand (5 cost fatal strike, 4 seeds and event horizon) and try to turbo Extreme to see if I manage to hit it 4 times to compensate my lack of orlea buff.
Maybe with a 4 draw2 snack time rei deck and some ugprades I can do the setup on the first turn and start delivering the smackdown.
Today I hit the wall and my 90 rank fell to 109 already. Damn.
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>>558724927
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Yep that's me
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support decks are more important tbqh. Feel free to laugh at my score, my 2nd half decks are garbage.
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This is probably the easiest way to clear, but yeah it's a lot harder than previous ones.
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>>558730485
Sereniel and Cassius are among the top clears of the Part 1 of the raid boss. Nine and Tiphera for Part 2
There is some variance with absurd outliers relying on neither though. Often involving Beryl here and there.
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Please DO NOT announce to the ship when you are going to go beat it. This has been a reoccurring issue, and I'm not sure why some people have such under developed social skills that they think that a server full of mostly human strangers would need to know that. No one is going to be impressed and give you a high five (especially considering where that hand has been). I don't want to add this to the regulations, since it would be embarrassing for new crewman to see that we have a problem with this, but it is going to be enforced as a rule from now on.
If it occurs, you will be warned, then additional occurrences will be dealt with at the discretion of on board officers. Thanks.
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Regardless of what you think, the things I mentioned do have psychological horror ***themes***
>t. doomchad
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You're the retard here, bro.
I know you're a zoomer so you don't remember, but back in the day the backs of game boxes used to list things like "suggestive themes" on their age rating. Now, "suggestive themes" can mean anything. It can mean that there is a "suggestive" joke at some point. It can mean that an enemy somewhere, even a random enemy, might look like a scantily clad female. Or, it can mean that the entire game is lewd and about sex.
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>makes me wonder when eva will truly die
Yoko Taro is writing a new Evangelion apparently, so its true lifetime just got renewed.
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>now where the fuck is psychological horror in this game?
I already told you, you giga fucking retard. The stress mechanic, the mindbreaks, and the Trauma codes. Even the opening still has some ***themes*** of psychological horror. You could even say the very nature of Chaos has psychological horror ***themes***
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I almost got the same deck as #1 tiph.
I stupidly went in to fight the hands chaos boss (my first time fighting it). I won but with a sliver of hp left with Tiph as my sole healer. My run ended soon after that.
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Haven't fought the boss yet. Is it the same as previous season where there's an additional place after interior boss?
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i'm serious, in Endfield the weapon gacha currency is something you get for pulling combatants
here you have to use premium pull currency
it's a retarded system
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Holy shit. Total Gayron and Reona victory.
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>Orlea is META
>Orlea is the first in line for her Alter later
OrleaDev WON bigly
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>>558753949
sugoi Gayronlords are winning
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THREE GENERICS
FUCKING LOL
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Reminder before you try Kayron meta make sure your Kayron is not E2.
His E2 will brick your run for this rift boss.
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It's pretty good.
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NIGGER
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Haru's other anchors got buffed to a higher ceiling, you just need to play it
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Okay anon I will trust you
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>patch happened
>sticker is still in
Guess they'll just ignore it entirely. It's better than them changing the sticker though. At least I'll get to have her ass on all of my save datas at some point
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Pull Tiph if you want to exhaust useless cards look at this leaderboard >>558753949
Tiph is Kayron BiS
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Oh I do enjoy Kayron's playstyle, may pull just to make him viable.
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Veronica is the strongest villain in CZN!!
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Why do i have to say this?
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the main issue with tiph+haru is tiph buffs aren't amazing for save data haru in general because narja is already perfect and tiph will never generate enough AP to equal -2 AP cost for anchor shot the whole turn. unless you're giga sunk costing haru's brick SSR partner.
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when the game had soul
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The Tiph and Orlea decks are basically the same, 4x divine AP/draw quantum seed and 4x divine draw growth accel.
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UHM?
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Manwhore
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>>558762274
It only took Pale Fire 4 cantos.
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she is THE goat for this season's event bosses too because her extra attacks don't mess with the countdowns (the third event boss we'll get, the plague) and then she also doesn't care about the hands of the big boss, wow, i'm so glad i have her E3
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>Renoa is good
are you sure abou that?This game is terrible at tierlists because you can't immediately gauge how good a character is without going through every interaction and card combination
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>spent all day farming mats for the new skill branch yesterday
>1k mats in the email today after I was already done with it
That's what I get for not being lazy.
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What the fuck do these even do?
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>second try on rift, first shot was figuring out the gimmick
>no godly infinite ap divine decks, really not even very good decks at all
>rank low 200s
maybe doomers were right. i mean i know it's still early in the rift and my rank will drop a lot but it's still crazy that a casual who only does 2-3 chaos runs a week can ever place that high at all
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Bruh
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Now that removals are easy, is it worth removing these?
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Bros, I don't think I can do it anymore. The games still practically just came out, and there are significant 4* character nerfs alongside pretty significant powercreep for how early in the game it still is, and now they also just introduced a new currency and level up system to grind for. And generic epiphanies still exist.
Maybe I'll check back in a year or something. I'm tired.
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>take the discard 1 brick
>have to kill the interior boss without a single Hew
lord have mercy
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Did this card get bugged in one of the recent minor patches? I drew it with 3/3 Form Upgrade, but clearly none of the parameters have been upgraded. Playing more arch cards that turn didn't affect the card in any way
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Fuck you too game
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Haru works just fine as an ungabunga character except for the highest tier of leaderboard bullshittery and just because she's not an order/defense based character hitting for twice as much damage on the boss
Nine will be a lot weaker after this season
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>>558777034
yeah you have 15 days to get her but it should be very easy with the initial rolls you get
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>she's support though
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>>558777062
Ok I trust you
Do I really need to install more spywave to play this game?
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>>558777208
Yes.
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Yes she's support, she only has one epiphany that turns her into a nuker and 90% of her builds are about spamming heals/damage buffs for the real nuker on the team
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The lion is the only spyware you need to install to play the game
Optional but you can block webview2 on your firewall so you don't have to see that garbage on your launcher
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high power scope 0 cost coordinated attack pipis is great. target spotted and pew pew are the potential cuts, though coordinated attack on weakness hit isnt bad (much worse than high powered scope though).
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>try building a Selena deck like 10 times last season and always get shit, best was a single tenacity recharge
>one run this season and I get this
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Yeah ended up removing target spotted there
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>play Beryl
>she solos you to masters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccM9oy-zi_w
People in Asia server have Beryl attempts 1mil+ because they spam the negotiate card, she's 100% getting nerfed in s3
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>>558777208
You could play on phone or tablet. That weird Stove launcher is filled with bugs. Hell you can’t even take a screenshot properly
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>she's 100% getting nerfed in s3
Oh no, she's going to get nerfed over a couple neutral cards!
Bro please be serious. She's not nearly the monster Tressa was back in S1. You're acting like the top of the leaderboard is filled to the brim with Beryls.
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>You're acting like the top of the leaderboard is filled to the brim with Beryls.
It kind of is, and the reason she will be nerfed is because her extra damage build IGNORES all the boss mechanics in the rift
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The guides seem to recommend the left one on the bottom but I feel like my current one might be better. What do you think? I am using the RNG quantum seed if it matters.
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Ok cool which server is easier? Global or Asia
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yes
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>check Cassius team
>his divine epiphanies are applying vuln - useful for a high score but can function without them
>check Narja team
>needs draw divine epiphanies for the team to function
And that's why I built Cassius this season
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Yes, but it might be worth trying to buy a cheap account to save yourself a reroll.
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>Finally get good substats
>Start rolling
>Get absolute dogshit and wasted units
These gooks need the rope.
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The Nightmare is Ongoing...
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Remember: no how bad your rng is, at least you arent r*dditarded
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They just need a cg panel of her giving a death stare. The super mindbreak is pretty cool (hot) but I need more contempt