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The Nightmare is ongoing... >>558663331
>Tiphera (NEW) Character PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg1sP1WIWlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JMu-LIhuQ
>Balance Adjustments for Season 2
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077
>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Dev notes 02/04
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929
>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant
>Current Featured Banner
[ Tiphera ] Order - Controller
Rate Up Period: 02/25/2026 - 03/18/2026
>Upcoming Featured Banners
Presumably Rita, the catgirl
>Current/Upcoming Events
Spiral Tower of Screams (Beta)
New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026
>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
>Deckbuilders
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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Does this give bonus attack to the owner too?
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>see mailbox dot
>get excited for free shit
>pic related
god dammit i already maxed out that tree system
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>>558788010
you play a lot
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Anything I should change in this deck?
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>>558788525
What is Rei doing on the nine tiph rei besides eating pasta and having a 0 card deck after turn 2?
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>>558788156
am addicted as fuck, i have been farming for 2 day straight and still haven't got it
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>Tip replaces Mika
Are you ready for the qt that will replace Rei?
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Fuck trying to figure these shitty rules text is causing me a headache. Like this. I guess it improves crit damage, but why does it say "affected by critical chance" and just crit damage. And what the fuck is "extra damage"
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Kino story
Execute the feminist that wrote the main story
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>>558789745
extra damage is everything your character would do aside from attacking directly (such as beryl's upgrade and her retaining cards, hugo throwing his dingos when someone else attacks or renoa discarding her bullets)
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>>558789745
>"extra attack DAMAGE" on the item
>extra attack
>affected by crit damage
>affected by extra damage
The item could match extra attack and extra damage but no one knows which it really matches
This game is so fuckiung spaghetti and they don't even bother fixing it it's insane
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>>558789745
It just means extra damage can crit. Extra damage is just another damage type. It should be listed on the card if it'll do extra damage.
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Thanks. I hate this.
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reading comprehension final boss
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>>558789597
yes if you go over the 180 capacity, i rerolled the last laser before ending tho
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yeah getting a good hammer effect is near impossible
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>>558790341
Extra Attack is another form of an attack.
Extra Damage is the stat that boosts Extra Attacks.
There are plenty of cards that explicitly states if it does Extra Attacks.
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>>558788808
Remove 5 cards
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>>558790658
"Extra" is the type of attack, the name doesn't matter. lets pretend it's called a "Fish Attack". when you see "Extra," replace it with "Fish" in your mind.
certain attacks re Fish Attacks, like the mark status and veronica's ballista. Fish Attacks are affected by Fish Attack Damage, can crit, and don't count as 'hits' for most effects.
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>>558790969
But here it says extra means "damage affected by critical chance and extra damage"
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>>558790658
>Nothing in that card explains what extra damage means
Why would it? If it did, you'd be gawking over what would count as extra damage and wouldn't when it's very simple. Look at picrel and tell me which card Second Method would boost.
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>>558790969
again
"extra attack DAMAGE" on the item
extra attack is a form of damage that is affected by extra damage
EXTRA ATTACK IS NOT AN ATTACK IT IS A FORM OF DAMAGE IN THIS SHITTY SYSTEM
"EXTRA ATTACK DAMAGE" DOES NOT EXIST AND IT MAKES NO SENSE
YOU WILL FIND IT NO WHERE ELSE IN THE GAME
THE ITEM GOT MACHINE OR AI TRANSLATED AND IT IS BAD STOP DEFENDING THE SLOPPY SHIT THEY DELIVER
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>>558789773
I hate cuckshit a lot but I am not some obsessed schizo over it still. Czn has showed me how extreme koreans are about this stuff. there seems to always be a struggle to find any decent middle ground on romance. it's either complete cuckshit or your mere presence makes everyone go into heat. But I prefer latter of course.
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>>558791346
Ah I get it now, it doesn't explain what extra attack does but what affects it. stupid.
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Renoa's bullet is the only card I've seen "extra attack" in yet. I had no idea Extra attack was a key word and not just a way to say it attacks one extra time when discarded. And I had no memory there was an extra hidden in that one specific card when I got >>558789745
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Does this activate its effect if used manually?
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>>558792325
ty
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aw sucks
I did remove Cobalt Light and I still didn't get the option. Shining Core didn't want to be a unique this run no matter how many times I rerolled, so that kept on showing up as a option too.
Bad luck all around, I guess
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>>558791823
It's "Extra Attack" damage +35% aka the "damage" of "Extra Attacks" are upped by 35%, you dense monsterfucker.
>>558792096
It explains what it is. It's Damage (affected by these things). Do you really need to know what Damage does?
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>>558792325
Sorry another question
1) can this have "2 AP" epi?
2) does the secondary effect (like Morale 2) activate if I Exhaust it through an effect?
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tyty
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>swap to a crit dmg IV piece for maximum gamba
>barely miss top 3
nyo...
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>>558792534
some items buff 'damage' and others buff 'attack'. Does 'damage' buff all sources of damage including extra attacks? And does 'attack' be it from your characters stats or items/buffs have any effect on extra attacks?
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Newfag here
Is this all the free gib I can get up to chapter 2?
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>>558793489
No. I'm not trying to imply that at all. You said Extra attack = damage affected by the things in the text.
One of those things was critical chance. So that would mean if I have something that is affected by critical chance that would be an extra attack
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How do I make her work without divine epis
She really feels weak without it
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>>558794091
>So that would mean if I have something that is affected by critical chance that would be an extra attack
You are literally implying it. Extra Attack can be affected by critical chance. All sources of damage are affected by crit chance (now since counters weren't before). That does not mean everything is extra attack. Now stop pretending to be an ESL because I'm not playing along with this any longer.
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I got my Tiph deck on my second run which was really lucky. The Orlea deck took like 4 hours. Nine isn't too bad to build since she's in every run and you can swap to building her if you get good epis.
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>misclick the banner
>want to pull her sister
>get E1
okay, not mad
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I get it now. I was confused because I first said that it does not explain what an extra attack is, only by what it is affected by, but >>558792534 said it does explain what it is (it doesn't, just Damage doesn't explain anything.) If the translators had any competency they could had at least put a fucking comma after the Damage but no. It just reads as Extra Attacks are damage that is affected by so and so.
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>If the translators had any competency
nah this is on you, take some accountability. next thing we'll see is you needing someone to explain why a gun shoots in the forward direction instead of backwards.
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>>558795196
>(it doesn't, just Damage doesn't explain anything.)
It's damage. What else do you need it to tell you? It's a thing that hurts the enemy. So Thing That Hurts the Enemy damage +35% is pretty fucking clear.
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How is a new player supposed to know what "extra attack" is from just that text tell me.
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this is bullshit I already did it but it doesn't fucking count
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>>558795223
DM the guys on pixiv
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>>558795698
Everyone starts out as a new player. I never had anyone explain anything in this game to me. I don't even read the tutorial except to collect the gems. I figured it out because I've been playing the game and reading cards and putting 2 and 2 together.
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Save data farming tedium aside, I really wish it was possible to change the main menu's background BGM. I dislike that calm one that's the default with Tiphera and others. I always have Beryl on. What a lovable dork.
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>from just that text
they're not, you're supposed to have looked at your 4* combatants and seen that a several of them have statuses/cards/effects that say "Extra Attack" with "Extra" capitalized like it's a specific thing and put 2 and 2 together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFZSKNu9Z8
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>try to build magna deck in chaos
>does next to no damage and only okay shielding
Is any Vanguard besides nine any good? I cant even think of a mode that they are more desirable in over taking another damage or support. Am I just dumb?
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Guys I'm really stupid and don't know how to play Tip
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So gay
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>>558789773
I had already praised Yuki’s event but this one went better since they bothered to introduce mosr of the cast earlier.
Previous one had Chizuru introduce the Kurokage subplot but she was basically just an intermediary to Kaguya Pharmaceutics. Narja and Gaya appeared and didn’t do anything, being relegated to the Trauma Code. Likewise Sereniel only appears in a single scene in part 1 and then her relation to all is relegated to Part 3 but since Part 3 already has to solve the Replica portion they bothered to develop the entire event she felt more like an accessory to all that.
The Replica and Peltion’s involvement was properly done and tied with Primonium and Asuna, effectively finishing the main plot that kickstarted everything and developing more on Protos as well as the subplots started in the Main Story, but the rest of the cast not so much.
Here in Burning Life however we quickly see all these girls having to deal with their own planets that were ruined, as if dragged to Speitz. The story repeatedly nails wishes and sacrifices and everyone here has some work for their duties or murder. While Part 1 dealt more with Nine and seeking to restore her planet, Tiphera nicely fits in since she is also a citizen of a desert planet, drawing parallels to Rico’s civillization and Tiana’s flashback foreshadowing the nature of Burning Life as well.
It’s obvious Part 3 will deal with Rico and Rita but by then we also progressed their subplots as they used the Colossus to expose the sacrifices the coliseum did and the monster it summoned. The event is a pair of the Desert Planets and the atrocities their committed for survival as well as the plants spreading as if to attend those prayers - tying with the parasyte seed subplot that infected the Captain on Verne.
I really don’t have issues with this event so far.
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>>558803179
yes
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>a-a certain amount of turns
HOW MANY YOU FUCKING TRANNY BOSS
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>>558803606
yeah its crazy, thats not even counting the weak damage
Nine will be kinda shit after this season
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>>558802274
Here's how to play with Tiphera
https://files.catbox.moe/9zoa5t.png
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>>558803179
Rita is good for you
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>>558804128
Millia seemed like she was gonna do time and/or ap shenanigans. She might reroll RNG or "rewind" shit or I have no idea. She might have ways to rig Tiphera's giga nuke to always have 9ap, and she might be able to help generate the ap to get there.
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>>558804984
YEAH NO SHIT CLOWN
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT YOU MORON
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>>558804984
the leaderboard always shills the latest characters. its a given. unless they fuck up, make her weak and other combination of characters somehow end up stronger
in the end it doesnt matter, the difficulty of the leaderboard is like 100x above the regular game including Tower and Basin
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>>558804984
>Bets on Rita being the third character with a fixed spot on the leaderboard this season?
Obviously that's going to be the case. It's not even possible for a different outcome than this to occur. They nerfed TCM for this reason, and they also learned from how anti-shill Season 1 was for its characters. Not even Sereniel really got shilled, she was just insanely good. I genuinely think that Narja was supposed to be the 3rd unit, but they got greedy and decided to give us a Christmas Limited unit sometime after Season 1 had already launched. It doesn't really make any sense from a logistics standpoint for Narja and Gaya's story to exist after Season 1, when Sereniel had practically nothing to do with Lab 0.
>If the team used is Nine-Tiphera-Rita it will seal this game as HSR-like season powercreeping
30% cheaper, btw, so it's okay. What, are you poor? Why don't you have all the characters?
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>>558804984
Actually Kayron is the new carry.
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yeah these morons would cry no matter what
imagine the tantrum they would throw if tip was bad in the leaderboards
absolute retards
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>>558806379
Gayron boutta get hit with that Mei Lin treatment
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>>558806379
>want to join Kayron hype train
>i have E3 Kayron
FUCK
CZN please add uninstall EGO
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>log in
>eyes inexorably drawn to the top left corner of the screen
Every single time...
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I feel like I can reach 1mi if I don't take so many turns on 1st phase, but God this boss is so boring I don't feel like doing it until it's necessary.
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Same but it's my pistol.
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>story is same shit but now they are trying to copy nikker
>owen still fucking exists for no reason
>renoa gets more retarded and retarded
>they told that thipera can destroy a planet but she can barely hold againts mif looking ass mutant
>mc is another super duper kind man with no other personality
i don't have hope to story revamp,this shit is worse than blue archive second arc for hoshino
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Okay what else do i need
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Buff Mei Lin
Nowhere to be seen in the leaderboard
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>>558812453
They should start looking into reworking/buffing her other epis so she can actually do other builds.
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>>558812915
>buff an OP standard banner character
>after giving bosses anti-Mei Lin buffs
>when they have newer units to sell
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>>558814976
My wife
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>>558815229
It seems to be the most consistent in terms of archetype generation and getting them into your hand. Draw back is that it can be heavy on the hand and you need to get the actual retain card in hand early.
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>>558815229
it draws cards out of your deck and tiphera's problem is that she shuffles cards into your deck without drawing them. even with an op draw divine her quantums are still -1 draw or more due to putting a card into deck (assuming you avoid her pointless draw an archetype archetype).
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And who?
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>>558817717
Me (Me), my wife (Narja), our daughterwife (Gaya), and our pets (Elysion and crystal snake)
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There's only one person doing her though...
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>>558819365
SmileGate saw the clips of people stacking spores and one shotting the boss with Nine. I'm not kidding. That's literally why. They base all of their gameplay decisions on which clips go "viral" in the CZN space. They didn't anticipate Kayron nukes, they expected Nine nukes, so Kayron is going to be nerfed unless he gets pushed off.
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>Go to Epione Center
>Realize I don't have enough money to delete memories
Where the hell did it all go!?
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Uh so now what do I do?
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>>558793606
>this is unironically the Nine on the current #1 team
Lmao nice game gachakeks
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>tif
>tip
>tiff
>tiph
>tipi
>tipp
>tipy
>tiffy
>tiphe
>tiphi
>tiphy
>tipph
>tippi
>tippy
Which way White man?
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>>558822892
>the deck I theorycrafted for this rift a week ago is rank 1
I take this as a win
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How is this meta?
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Something about his E2 dealing damage EoT but they patch the new boss so it doesn't trigger anymore
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can tiphy support these 2 fat fucks by herself?
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>>558824209
People are exaggerating, but his E2 actually makes him harder to use in this Rift. E2 deals 100% fixed AoE damage every time 2 of his Futility cards are used (I don't know if that counts them getting exhausted), which counts as a hit and triggers the Colossus' mechanics while you're trying to set up for a big hit.
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>>558823161
Best Rin build in the current season is probably her Unique card to smack 10 times with spores so Orb set isn't too bad. If you already have a 2/2/2 set with a lot of Atk then just use that.
Orb set isn't as good unless you're willing to farm decks for her. You want the epiph that moves the 2 specific cards to hand and Narja with cost reduction. Pretty similar to Haru or any other unit that wants to spam the exact same card over and over again.
If you can get it to like 8 hits, it's gonna be a flat boost of like 240% dmg which is pretty high for a gear set
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>>558824769
The rank one player has this build
>Create 1 creation card (of your choice) on your hand and draw pile +1AP x3
>Draw 3 creation cards (retain) x1
Then a trillion veronica reposes and some shit
Just the three tiph sneed are 9 guaranteed AP on top of the 3 AP for the turn. So I imagine if your cycle power is good enough and the draw order is decent you can very easily have 9-15 AP every single turn.
I don't have that deck so I can't say for sure, but the pieces are there.
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>>558824769
It's pretty easy if you have infinite AP from Tiph or divines like >>558824775
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Who's the most popular girl here?
Feels like it's either Yuki, Narja or Tiphera but it's hard to say which one
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The answer is obvious.
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>>558825070
here in particular? hard to say as the one that gets talked about the most tends to be the most recent.
Currently my top 3 are Renoa>Narja>Yuki. I don't use Yuki as much, sadly, but I like her design, kit, and interactions in her season.
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>>558825305
Nobody's talking about here anymore since elasticity became a thing...
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>>558824986
Yeah to be honest it's pretty exhausting to farm for especially considering she's not meta by any means. That build gets cucked by the fact the Dark Art:Destruction epiph you want is the only one that doesn't give her Dark Mist stance so you can brick or you need her E3.
Also the optimal Narja deck is slightly different from the others (lile Haru) because you want to get the one card that consumes 5 voracity to give +200% dmg to every hit of the next card.
So you get to farm your 4x divine Narja build again xDddd
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>>558825070
This is a Veronica board.
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>>558825197
Just getting solid decks that work is a pain in the ass itself because it takes so much time and it's not even guaranteed that it will work out, that the right epiphanies will appear or that the run will be doable in the end. This demoralizes me so much that I practically avoid playing the game aside from doing the daily and weekly stuff.
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>>558825613
I getcha. I spent like 5 days trying to get one single deck and the game refused to give me the right epiphany on the right card and it was fucking maddening.
I took a break and then got two super sweet decks as soon as the rift dropped.
Such is the way of retarded rng.
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WOOAAHHHHHHHH
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>>558825070
>Tiph
Obviously the most popular right now due to rececency bias
>Narja
Tbh I feel like the Narja aesthetic more than the character herself. Narja enjoyers want the entire ecosystem of Gaya and the other weird things.
>Yuki
She has a decent number of dedicated fans. She's probably the most popular of the post-launch group but Tiph could easily dethrone her
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>not to the tummy
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And once the season ends they will be worthless and you'll have to do it all over again. I don't know how many of these do-overs I have it in me. They'll have to make things easier. I honestly find more pleasure in testing out various deck combos and doing stupid or weird shit over building the decks themselves. The process of acquiring the decks is the tiresome part. They should at least add a training mode where one can freely put together whatever deck he wants to and test it on some kind of target dummies with variable settings (passive, endlessly respawning, attacking back, etc...).
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>1/5th of the entire playable cast is T0
Is this that fucking retard shit chinks do where they rate shit like SSS, S+, SS-, SSS+, and being Tier A basically means they're unplayable garbage?
God I fucking hate people that are different than me
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Yeah, I completely agree.
I'll say that theorycrafting a build and finally seeing it in action is super gratifying. But I'd love a training mode to test my shit before actually commiting, to tweak the ratios and whatnot. That'd be sweet.
In fact that's why I'd love if one of these gay websites where you can build teams had a "draw hand" functionality to simulate your first three turns or so and tweak ratios, test epiphanies and divine epiphanies.
I may end up developing it myself even as a local app if it doesn't show up.
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I'm more concerned about Hugo's placement. But yeah, I wouldn't even say that Tiphera belongs in the top tier due to how inconsistent she is in Chaos, but she straight-up makes Mika obsolete. No matter where you think Tiph fits in the tier list, Mika should be lower than her.
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I know he's a meme but have any of you guys actually used Hugo?
He's like Veronica except he trades utility for a fuck ton more damage. That nigga hits hard as fuck in Chaos and he doesn't really need anything specific to do it.
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the leaderboard boss is weak to order and instinct
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She'll obviously be passion because the other element in this season's chaos is passion.
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>Feels like it's either Yuki, Narja or Tiphera but it's hard to say which one
Personally I really like Narja so I'm biased. Tiphera for obvious reasons. Yuki is also very popular considering that she's a brick; just imagine if she was actually good. Mei Lin is also pretty popular for her OG status before the game started nerfing things and her presence as the token pink hair.
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>>558829215
Reroll or buy an account, yeah. Even if you get her now, you'll be completely dry when the sexcat comes around, if you want her. You might not even be able to get the off-season character if you want her, whoever she ends up being.
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>farmed good decks for Sereniel and Selena for the first half and Nine and Tiphera for the 2nd
>I have a pathetic performance. Holy fuck I couldn’t even beat the guy in the first part
>600.000
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>600.000 means I’m top 10%
WHAT THE FUCK
I thought my performance was horrible. I can’t even fanthom the madness that took those people to the top ranks
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Yeah the first part is pretty unforgiving. You really need to kill him in 1-2 turns or it becomes a whole mess.
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>thought Tiphera’s event was gonna be like Nine exploring her previous adventure leading to the arena
>it’s actually trying to legally justify her use of power to the Empire so we have to hunt down the slave traders to technically explain what happened
That’s pretty cool
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>trying to do one run solely to kill Colossus
>Tiph P*ke Cassius
>Plan is to get this epiphany and burst the boss down
Can you guess what happened?
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>She is the one that stamps our report rather than the other way around
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I failed to get the blonde nun from my beginner rolls, supposedly she was a good teammate for my Nine.
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>>558833630
What if Rita's gimmick is that she has Kefox in her base kit
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No, there is a 0-cost one but you lose the 2nd effect "Create Ballista when drawing skill card". Either way you can just click remanifest and pick Kowalski. It will let you check all the possibilities without consuming the ticket
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yup, there is no 0 cost draw 2 there
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oh wait ur right, that's repose not kowalski. my bad.
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Fight him if you want to get the sticker
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they are not particularly good
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Yeah, but these are new like >>558842428
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>>558843739
>he didn't roll the shill unit in the shill game
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his ingame sprite was recently removed from an old story chapter recently
Karl is straight up gone
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ingame sprite Chapter 3
https://litter.catbox.moe/mvyhey.mp4
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Good. How about Millia status?
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The fuck?
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Chads won, gays lost.
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>Maybe he was connected to Owen somehow. If were going with time traveling stuff now, and now we have a time traveling cat lady, maybe this was their time traveling kid, and because of all the controversy at the release the devs decided to just scrap this guy. Either that or maybe they are just really afraid of releasing a guy, or some intern fucked up.
>Its retarded, sure, but maybe possible.
I instantly developed the same or similar schzo head canon as soon as I read anon's post about him being removed. If (We) were originally supposed to be Owen's dad, then maybe this new guy is real Owens dad or his time traveled son or something.
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From the leaks she's kinda underwhelming (just mika on streoid because she give so much AP) except 1 busted epip that can prevent hp reduction desu
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>nice try new cutie.
Anon... we have a bunch of leaks from hackerman. He's referring to Millia though, not Rita. We don't know if they're the same person with time travel shit or if they're different people or if Millia got redesigned into Rita or what.
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Yea I was just seeing that old rentry
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I think because her theme is time manipulation, she will get card that Stop/Increase/Reduce Action Count of enemy
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we had leaks but semilgook killed their kits just like how yuki was originally multi hit st order char and butchered into dogshit aoe that deals negative dmg
thats why you see she is paired with brickzuru during stream,they forgor that yuki is no longer multi hit dps
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>she will get card that Stop/Increase/Reduce Action Count of enemy
My wishlist has now become Wanderer of the Void being one of her cards and Kefox being her purple card. That would also allow Tiphy to goldfish durdle her solitaire deck without worrying about what the enemy is doing.
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Maybe they will both will be released as combatants or one will be the partner. It would be an interesting concept to have someone's future self be the partner to their present self or have them both be combatants.
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>>558848631
Yes. Sometimes even more since gachas love to call "Content" when they add 2 hours of unskippable story sequences that force you to interact with the new gacha characters that you will want to roll for.
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Her best "standard" build is the generate 3 and proc retain 2x seed + retain = draw archetype form.
As long as you keep the form convergence in your hand, each time you cast seed you will generate and draw all the archetypes, avoiding polluting your deck.
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>>558848631
In Star Rail they've had month long patches where the only "content" people had was a cats working at mcdonalds simulator.
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My favorite gacha of all time used to add about 1 hour worth of content every week, and usually bi-monthly as well, so about 6 times per month you got about an hour's worth of new content.
I don't really like the schedule of modern gacha where you have 6-9 weeks of the same exact content, with the only change being banner changes.
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>>558826294
Hugo is retarded strong, he was 80% of the damage in the Tressa/Mika comp before. Tiph is now the infinite skill proc + AP for him, now we need a character that can spam weak attack cards to re-enable him.
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Newfag here, I just started recently due to the gameplay intriguing me. Give it to me straight, is the story particularly worth engaging with? I've read everything thrown at me so far up to chapter 2, and it's been a little dry so far. Now, I'm no low attention span reader, I play FGO as well and have read all of that, but is this particularly worth getting really invested into? Or is it more of a pick and choose parts to read if the characters interest you sort of deal?
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>is the story particularly worth engaging with?
Absolutely not. At the last minute before the game released, there were like 5 different story rewrites, none of which were the original version of the story, and the version that won out in an "internal survey" that the director rigged, was the director's own fanfiction version that completely removes the original premise of the story. He loves homoverse and wishes to be like them.
I read all of what was in the game at launch, and it's all shit. Plus, it's getting rewritten anyway at some point. Don't read it. If you must read anything, the Trauma codes are at least decent and they are more focused on the character that the Trauma is about, so if you like a particular character definitely read their Trauma code, but the story is trash.
When Yuki starts showing up, the story gets a little bit better, but still not good. Yuki's voice actress is really good though. I stopped reading the story after Yuki's patch, so if it gets better after that I have no idea, but the story is complete trash. Trauma codes are almost worth reading to the point that you should read them if you want to read some part of this game at least.
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the story is shit, just play for the gameplay and the ass.
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Thanks kyoudais, will do.
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>Absolutely not. At the last minute before the game released, there were like 5 different story rewrites, none of which were the original version of the story, and the version that won out in an "internal survey" that the director rigged, was the director's own fanfiction version that completely removes the original premise of the story. He loves homoverse and wishes to be like them.
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>>558853647
Bootleg W40K but then the director saw HSR "space opera" and decided to kick the original writer.
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>>558853834
We don't know that yet.
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Chaos takes over planets. Chaos bad. Sacrificing a Protos to the Chaos seems to fix the Chaos though.
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The e7 writer rewrite had both the empire and the church being the big bad, empire refused to give Protos reinforcements to deal with Yuki looping Chaos and MC ship comes in to help Yuki country so they get help fighting church cause human sacrificing Kayron squad.
Original plot was supposed to fight chaos since trailer showed us fighting deer god.
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>charts
>non shitpost
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Played a little at launch, rolled for tiph and got nine from the standard banner. Working up to lvl 50 now.
Is there anyone I should focus on building out first? Any recommenced teams?
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>US has higher % spending than Japan
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>event stories
it's not event stories
the seasonal stories we get are canon chapter 2/3/4
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>>558859137
This game thing is gameplay but most Japanese gacha fags don't want gameplay. They play gacha games to relax after their 500 hour overtime job.
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>>558853209
I wanted to try a new side game/secondary game for when my main game is dry on content.
In other news, I just pulled this chick from the standard banner.
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BTW i finally understand the sorting they implemented
They changed from highest E to latest release
Why ever they did that, I don't get it
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>>558865330
Her mechanics are around the Exhaust cards she either makes specific of at low quantity or randomly at higher numbers so Quantum Seed is the crucial one to Copy for that.
Her other cards work around the use of such cards or deal with the randomness.
But since she makes those cards consistently, she consistently heals and generates AP too. Basically a Mika on steroids that will once a while pacj a punch. Or you can tailor the epiphanies in a direction she will be a damage dealer that accunulates a ton of amped up damage.
Most people use her as support because she has really good synergy with Nine as Nine has effects benefiting from Exhaust, Shield or single hit damage. All of which Tiphera can do.
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is there some special technique or something there's no way I'm that unlucky when the rift leaderboard is full of all these perfect decks
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they perma ban pretty ruthless in this game i highly doubt this
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>>558867853
>have to deal with a midget that smells bad
You’d be too
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> Meh, Selena would be fine with a lower memory cap.
> Mika triggers Draw Divine on Source of Water.
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> Not even one single gear bag in the run
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>nine recovers from melty
>hew nowhere to be seen
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40 is max if you get the hammer at the last boss
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In chaos she has 1089.
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>>558871268
Kind of weird they shoved that midway through an event with already 2 plotlines.
At least in the current one all the subplots lead to the Burning Life one way or another
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Not really?
In hoyo games you have many characters that were relevant after their banner ended.
Are you perhaps referring to wuwa which is famous for pumping and dumping their characters once their banner ends?
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>the chart shows a decline
Pedobros why are you not spending money on her banner?
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sereniel was also inserted completely randomly
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I'm pretty sure Tiph is better for Haru
Theres some builds that net you 15 AP / turn and you can just spam bonks non-stop
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Outside of training, where can I get spore harvester from events? Is it anything that says
>neutral cards
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Here's the scrapped version of the story
https://rentry.org/9vxqr6cb
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I actually got a cool deck for Serena on my first try yesterday but I ran out of mindrape tickets, I can only kill it in like 9 turns with Sereniel+Narja+Rei
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He means unlock everything in one group. then reset the investments you did. The unlocked sections will remain unlocked with after the reset. repeat with the other sections and then you can put your cogs into the most important once right off from the start
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Eh, it's the same downward trend as any other game. Only question is if they're satisfied with the $ they're getting from it or not. A shame they're too retarded to understand that fleecing isn't as effective online as it might be in real life, cause otherwise they'd offer a "fairer" 1:1 (dollar per pull) ratio or even above 1 pull per dollar. That would certainly incentivize more people to buy shit and not the other way around.
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Do level 1 normal maps that are outside of Zero System. Check the monster appearance to make sure they appear on those maps and do events to encounter them. They're the humans in black armor. Just kill 5 of them and you're done.
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Asian companies in particular are obsessed with the idea of catching whales. We will never understand their rationale. They would rather have 10 customers that spend $1000 each than 1000 customers that spend $10 each. For physical goods like a car it makes sense to have higher profit margins but on a video game it's utterly retarded. The rnd cost is the same if you have 100 players or 100000
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this game copied mihoyo monetization ie make every purchase terrible and unappealing. but then it gives you more rolls + banners are cheaper than mihoyo so you don't have to swipe for E0. and then they made enlightens and SSR partners terrible. this game does not have a revenue model it is insane. i'm amazed it makes anything.
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this is the worst gacha to whale on I have ever seen. you get absolutely nothing and things like Haru's E2/E6 and SSR partner are so incompetently designed that they're now useless in save data. enlightens are a complete afterthought the devs just do not care.
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to go further for the past three months every person who has pulled on an SSR partner has gotten burned because they are complete garbage and their "buff" was giving them 8% attack. this is an insane way to treat your dumbest and most spending customers. these are the people you should coddle and dicksuck if you actually want to make money and they are just not even considered.
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>>558880529
I don’t really get the rest of asian companies but the little I saw of korean gacha (and whatever Last Origin is) they seem to prefer to focus on a broader audience that can afford less.
In the interviews I read stuff like how they specifically target people at the end of studies, start of the job hunting that are struggling there, so they know they don’t have a big incomenor can’t afford to spend much. They amp up the pandering while making the mix of the setting as welcoming harem and psychopathic apocalypse too.
Though I dunno what was the thought process while designing CZN if any. From the little we have seen, their only consistent point was having actual gameplay while all the others were subject to change with that retarded Producer and the 10 writers mess.
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>>558873314
>where can I get spore harvester from events
you can get it at the start if you reset the chaos often enough
there's one starting options that lets you choose one of three legendary neutral cards
the same way you can get it from events that let you pick legendary cards
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But if you whaled, then your 5 star partners would be E5 and then they would be better. Us normies have a skewed interpretation of the partners because we're comparing E0 5 stars to E5 4 stars and yeah they're usually worse because the passive bonuses are cut in half
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Tiphera is pedocope. There's nothing loli about her at all and her fat body is fucking disgusting. But the pedos are so desperate that they'll take anything they can get and she's as close as they'll probably ever get judging from the rest of the cast
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>>558882370
faint memory or remove were too high
you can click on the pictures top left to see it
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like this
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I blame shiwasu no okina for getting me into short chestlet girls like tiph
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>>558882370
Save Data limit based on tiers. Basic card removal is 20 points.
Those downsides in the Zero System and the event are increasing the limit
Point limit is Save Tier x 10 + 20 (ex: Tier 12 at Deep Trauma becomes 13 = 150 points)
Tier 12~13 is the one considered “safe” to build good decks
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>>558884508
i mean as in, im level locked, not that i cant clear them. the game wont let me do higher levels until i hit higher account level
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if you mean pic related it requires level 35
>>558884743
i am, just have to wait for policies
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>>558885553
This season had it out for Mika. Even before Tiphera, the other Controllers had their healing boosted to the point that if you didn't need all the AP Mika gave you, you were better off with literally anyone else. She's still the best pure healer, but that's about it.
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>>558886439
Nah, we've already seen it and it's exceptionally tame
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>>558887817
Woah didn't know you play CZN, mr vice president
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STOP STEALING ALL THE FUCKING DIVINES YOU STUPID
FUCKING
BIIIIIIIIITCH
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woah nice
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>>558891313
he's fairly retarded. side 1 boss last time was 40,000 HP and you just hit it and it had a gimmick where it would draw you your whole deck making it even easier. this one has 52,000 damage of hands you have to destroy, where you then get less than 1 turn to kill an 80,000 damage head, and if you fail the 27,000 hp hands re-appear and you have to do it over again. really think they went too far having the hands respawn at full life.
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>>558889231
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>558895301
you tell me
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>>558895402
She doesn't know she's flashing everyone
Look at how embarrassed she is when realizing her skirt might be flying up
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>>558894640
imo it's definitely too far a swing from s1. i can't even kill him early, i don't know how you're supposed to. play too defensively and you can't deal enough damage, play too aggressively and you die.
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You should play her game.
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I finally animated the best card in the game
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Decisions, decisions...
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>>558897970
Bikini Renoa
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you guys think Rita will be a Justice Ranger? Renoa seems to be good against this rift boss because extra attacks don't trigger the arms
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So all seasonal cards and items we've unlocked in the Burning Life chaos through exploration levels should be appearing in the other chaos too, right? Or is it only going to happen when the season ends, and only outside of season-valid content?
I do see season 1 unlocked fates a lot in season 2 chaos but never seen any unlocked equipment ever.
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Considering the fact that her thing seems to be time travel, i fear she might be the leaked character Milia but completely remade
or they're sisters who both have time powers
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Does this shit have to happen LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME?
IS IT NECESSARY?
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>>558903437
OH wow, and again.
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>>558903437
the weight for trash stats in czn feels way higher than any gacha with this piece of shit gear system i've played before
i still don't have a single piece with +3 crit rolls as a day 1 player and stamina gemmer
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>>558903834
yeah i want the endfield gear system
give me perfect stats but make the upgrades failable and hard
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>>558903834
I love this system thank you smilegate, I really loved how my last 2 stat rolls are absolutely fucking worthless dogshit and bricked my equip, thank you.
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>Wow
How*
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>>558904132
The deck I was using then was very inconsistent, but the one I use now is pretty good. I have to reset a couple of times to hit the draws in the beginning, but it's a 1 turn kill after that, so it doesn't take too long.
I just did a PB so you can check it on the leaderboard if you want.
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>>558904669
That sereniel deck + gear is crazy.
>>558905132
Veronica is out now
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I'm uninstalling.
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>>558904972
One of them swiped onto the leaderboard with E6 Tiph. He could easily be rank 1 if he did something like this, but I guess our whales don't have time to build good decks.
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Same amount
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>>558905831
So it makes no difference, it's only convenience. Not going to bother optimizing phase 1 for now then.
Thanks. I respect the sportsmanship of giving tips to the "competition" in a way, since you spend a long time here replying and sharing strats.
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>>558905384
Nyo...
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>>558905384
just drop him off where he belong
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>>558906060
No problem, I'm fine with falling off the leaderboard after the first week or so anyway. I just like the early theorycrafting. But yeah, it's only really worth optimizing the first half if you need to clear it a bunch of times to get the ideal starting hand in part 2.
>>558906529
Yeah, Beryl is the best spore holder since she can generate them with guilty pleasure. She can also hold Tiph's fragment set, which frees up Tiph to use damage sets.
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So you guys think Beryl will take over in a few days or am i misunderstanding?
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I'm tired lads.
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>>558911186
Bro…
>>558913178
Wait doesn’t the retain have to be hers?
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>your connection is unstable
>your connection is unstable
>your connection is unstable
>your connection is unstable
EAT SHIT AND DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
Why the fuck did they publish this game on Stove instead of Steam or making their own launcher? It baffles the mind.
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>>558913424
Jesus fuck... why did I even ask? What bullshit!
>>558913420
They could do it regardless. The mobile stores already take a cut from the in game transactions by default. I don't see what the problem is. These people are fucking retarded.
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The Nightmare is Ongoing...
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