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>Update 12.0 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0

>February Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/355-february-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg

>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks:
https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks

>Other useful links:
https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB

Previously on the Battle-barge: >>558573603
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Patch 13 when?
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I think this game is officially dead for me. I felt nothing while playing him.
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>>558795717
He seems underwhelming considering how long he was supposed to have been worked on, for sure. Good thing they're catching a lot of flak for this whole update.
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>>558795639
July
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He just needs more artillery is all.
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>>558796339
meant for >>558795903
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Great matchmaking experience Sabre, bravo. Yes I could run with bots, but that is boring.
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IMO this is the continuing problem of class identity being too muddled between classes.

Techmarine should have been the stereotypical engineer character. He should have been about resupplying the team and providing automated cover fire. He only achieves half of that, because they already gave everybody perks to restore ammo, and Tactical the ability to restore people's grenades.
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>>558796703
agree
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>>558796703
Yet they still doesn't allow multiple classes in games. Not even allowing it only to <substantial lobbies.
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>>558797175
According to the game director this would upset balance they carefully designed.
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>finally hit 25 on techie
>look at the prestige perks
>they're all painfully mid
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>>558795717
The class having no ammo regen = dead on Absolute
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>>558797291
>balance
>carefully designed
Not even believable back on launch
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>>558797564
You just don't have the required imagination, behold full perk value
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>Didnt let tech place turrets as equipment
>Result is tech players latch onto them like moths to a flame and then dont do anything
Brilliant design. 10/10.
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>We cannot allow your gun to be a toggle on/off when you see fit
>No it cant be ammo based it has to be some magical mana system
Meanwhile
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>>558797291
>Inferno
>Triple Bulwark
>Neuro spawns
>Whole party is completely screwed
>Decapitation
>Triple Tacts
>One auspex scans boss, second does it at the same time, third waits for it to expire, clicks and hits the wall 5000 miles away
God I hate how anti fun these devs are for the sake of """balance"""
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>>558797769
It's utter bullshit sure, what's more baffling is that they convinced themselves of their infallibility to the point where any suggestion much less a request is taken as soul crushing criticism.
>>558800385
iirc some the 'reasoning' behind locking class choice was also that they try to reflect the tabletop which is pure horseshit since you can damn well have triple bladeguards for instance and no one will bat an eye. I doubt even James Workshop would've opposed this since it's purely gameplay.
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People have done the math.

The "receive 450 re-recorded voicelines" description for the Voice Pack literally refers to all the lines across the included languages, of which there is 7.

This is bordering on false advertising.
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why do we even need balance in a casual pve game with crossplay? the numbers at the end of the mission are meaningless.
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Chaos players remind me of uppity world of warcraft horde players.
>Doing some inferno leveling
>Tech marine is taken as usual, oh well I still have weapons to level on other classes
>Tactical joins, full death guard kit
>New heroic HBR and probably a build he didnt think of himself that he stole from a grifter like youtube guardsman
>He keeps taking damage and hogs all the medkits
>After the carnifex, the techie presses B to Emprah
>Tactical "refuses"
>I say "Go take a shower NURGLER"
>He starts having a melty
>He gets down after getting whipped by nids
>"Are you getitng WHIPPED into shape NURGLER?"
>Starts wah wah but Malfarion is the best
>"ok nerd"
>Tries to launch a votekick against me
>Techie doesnt approve
>Finish the mission
>He dealt fuckall damage and of course took the most damage himself
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>>558801571
>he doesn't periodically switch languages
bro do you even imperium of mankind
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i cant do this fucking shit any more
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>>558804472
It's over. This game is done.
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>>558804472
me too, except i can't even make myself to prestige 1 this class
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>>558804578
Just play dodge Assault, class is leaps and bounds above everybody else for fun factor now.
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>new map is bugged so nobody can complete it
Vatniks strike again
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>>558801313
Its ok Toxic Commandos is flopping. That'll make them wake up to the lost opportunity of fixing SM2.
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>>558806560
I've completed it like ten times now. Skill issue.
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>Check strats for today
>Whoops, all spore mines!
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should I even play with ultra settings after the campaign? I think I'd rather not have the gpu draw 150w for no reason and just play at 120 fps locked at medium instead
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When using a chainsword, do i deal more single target damage with the double stomp or with just spamming light attack?
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"Teolorian" is the new guy right ? The Techmarine ?
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>>558807967
i think its faster to light light shoulder, you would get two shoulders in before the second stomp animation finishes
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Techmarine is easy the hardest class to play
It's popularity will hit rock bottom a week from now
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guys am i crazy or does the heroic knife make intimidating aura explosions on headshots instead of parries. or are the explosions some techmarine sheanenigens i am not aware of?
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Not a fan of the new operation. Missing a big boss in the cathedral.
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>>558808007
yup
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They've completely broken the spawn rates. Absolute is actually unplayable right now, we're talking 12+ Warriors with ranged weapons at once alongside another dozen melee Warriors.
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>move a bit forward
>turret randomly explodes
this shit is so ass bros...
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>screen perma stim effect
Can these subhuman russians do anything right?
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>>558808927
So it's not just me then.

>Neurothrope spawns
>+2 Zoans
>+2 Lictors
>+1 Biovore
>All while there's still like ten Majoris and an entire wave of enemies out in play
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>rep0 host goes down again in normal siege, wave 5
>kick me when I'm fighting a horde on the other side of the map
Was he butthurt he's bad or something?
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did they change how stims work? when i took one i slowly regenned white hp
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>>558810289
It's a new stim type, it slowly refils your recoverable health, so best to take it before an engagement and wait for it to fill up in time for an execution.
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they need to make bots stronger and farming in single player faster, you're too weak in a new account to play online and have fun
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Are the servers on operations dying for anybody else? Even when playing solo everything is lagging right now.
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They did add *some* clarification as to the shitstorm that ensued yesterday:

>Post-release note: We saw your feedback about the lack of armour option that the Techmarine currently has. Due to time constraints, we made the choice to focus on Techmarine’s gameplay rather on its customisation options. Rest assured, we will expand the armour options as part of future updates. The Techmarine will have access to various armour parts.

>Additionally, a hotfix is planned for next week, addressing various stability issues, as well as a bug soft-locking players in the bridge sequence in Disruption.
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>>558808927
>>558809735
They knew people are going to farm and they made Absolute even harder

Just farm Ruthless
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>>558810289
white stims =/= red stims
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>>558811885
Deathwatch Techmarine ?
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>finding the codes in the Imperial Guard camp on Inferno
>notice that Telorian doesn't have any generic mission lines and that one of the other marines will sound off when you search the bodies
What the fuck? Surely they had the budget to record some basic lines for performing certain actions.
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>>558815064
He has no operation specific lines besides the new operation.
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the prestige system is the biggest flaw of this game. i´m getting real tired of leveling mildly underwhelming difficulties instead of playing on absolute. and leveling on absolute will just make me mad when i fail a mission (aka losing progress)
the prestige system made ALL of my friends drop this game & they are 100% right
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>>558805884
>dodge Assault
>leaps and bounds
lol
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So, question
Does the servo-gun target the heldrake?
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>>558815064
what's worse, some lines will not trigger at all, like the one that tells there's enough gaunts to activate the fire trap in inferno, you have to do this by sight, or let other players handle it (i couldn't because i was playing a gauntlet with level 1 players)
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>>558817626
>implying i would be grinding techmarine in chaos ops
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>>558807967
Chainsword enjoyer here. Double stomp is a meme and you shouldn't use it. Take the useless Rev up node to change your first heavy into a useless fucking attack that enables the best and quickest routes to shoulder check and stomp.

The big issue with double stomp is that the second one is too fucking slow and the first often knocks minoris it doesn't kill out of the range of the second.
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>>558817626
Plasma version uses a ball targeting like Tactical's auspex, the sniper one probably has enough range to be able to hit it, but I haven't tested
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>>558807967
>>558817931
But yeah. You want to route to shoulder check as much as humanly possible for single target, and if you're surrounded by majoris maybe try and go for the stomp but it's a risky move to go for. With the rev cancel you can fit stomp in under the adrenaline surge block window but it's hard to use otherwise.
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>>558811331
i have bad news for you. it never gets fun, once you are piv lvl 25 with all gold weapons it just is a different type of miserable.
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Sniper servo gun is insane, turns all Majoris and Extremis red

Plasma ball doesn't but nukes everything around said Majoris
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>>558818435
Sniper servo is fucking hilarious
You get like 4-5 shots but it will incapacitate like 2 extremis enemies guaranteed
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>invuln when operating a turret?
Or
>actual headshot bonus damage?
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>>558820102
invulnerability on your first prestige slot and headshot damage on your second
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>>558820102
I find invuln more fun since activating any turret you find kinda feels like half the point of the class.
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the last techmarine team perk should also replenish one magazine of ammo along with regular grenades
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>>558807967
Only use double stomp with the heroic chainsword. It's probably not as METUH as the block chainsword rev up combo skip but it is fun.
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>Secure Stockpile: resupplies grenades
>Combat Squad Resupply: gives you an extra stockpile of grenades
Hmmm...
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I've been noticing way more barbed strangler warriors this patch, or maybe it's just been bad luck
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Reminder that Clonegrim did nothing wrong.
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>>558796156
I wish I could share your optimism, Brother.
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>unfixable softlock on disruption
>permanent medicae screen effect
>omnissian axe constantly missing parries
I thought the pts was supposed to prevent this?
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>>558822235
Yeah, about all those bugs >>558811885
>a hotfix is planned for next week!
Aren't you grateful? Gopniks are working round the clock (1 day per week) to give you premium content!
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>>558822235
You are forgetting the techmarine's team perks costing 500 req instead of 50.
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>>558822235
Add to that list extra '0' next to the cost of Techie's team perks.
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Bottom tree for the omnissian axe right
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>download new update
>play a few operations including the new one
>hehe pew pew pew
>come here
>TECHMARINE IS HORRIBLE, THIS UPDATE IS JUST BEYOND AWFUL
I just want you guys to be happy for once...
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>>558823660
I haven't been able to play techmarine with other people since the update released.
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>>558823660
Dmitry, it's another patch another batch of bugs and half-baked content. I would appreciate if you changed vocations and took up playing banjo in Guadalajara. Sorry to say, but game dev is obviously not your forte.
On your way out please let your studio colleagues know that spreading yourselves thin across 20 different titles is not exactly AAA behavior.
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Sneed it or feed it?
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>>558824371
YOU WILL BUY TOXIC COMMANDO OR ELSE...
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>>558822235
>>558822620
>>558822821
I'd like to add that parrying with Chainaxe, Power Sword and Knife also don't register half the time. All these bugs and supposed "time constraints".... What in the ever loving fuck is going on at their office?
I'm gonna say the word Brothers

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772137894633401.webm" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1772137894633401.webm
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>>558824409
my medusa marine looks exactly like this, except i have the tier 2 mecha arm and the normal techie hat
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>>558822235
Anon we're talking about devs who were working on this new class for months, yet not once did anyone apparently even think to add some preset turret spots to Siege mode. The most unique aspect of the class isn't even fucking present in the game mode it'd make the most sense to be in.
>>558823660
Yeah the game is fun but it's in spite of Saber who have a history of making games with a fun base but then dropping the ball when it comes to supporting it properly. Quake Champions had the opportunity to be much bigger than the forgotten fart in the wind it wound up being due to being mired in technical issues.
>>558824409
Stops copys me.
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Which fuckwit put spore mines in nearly every stratagem?
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>>558826767
is there not a "oops, all spore mines" meme image floating
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>>558826767
yeah me and my mate have been bashing our heads against the termination mission after coming back
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I'm just gonna come out and say it. The people working on this game that deserves any praise at all, 9 out of 10 situations, are animations and graphics designers. You can definitely see some love in these aspects of the game even if they fuck up some textures here and there. The rest of the game unfortunately is at the whim of a DS loving vindictive asshole who thinks he knows better and who got shoes too big to fill.
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>>558827646
I can get behind that.

Still, fuck spore mines, also why do the lost souls look like sock puppets?
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>>558825384
i´m pretty sure that most techies that are not some mishmash of colors run sons of medusa since they
>have techies that aren´t just red
>are iron hands, but less lame
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Watching FTG repeatedly fuck up his takes just to get some slopmetics because we can't earn shit simply by playing the fucking game anymore.
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>>558828052
I wanted to run Knights of Byzantium but the game doesn't have the right shade of purple.
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>>558827646
>DS loving
>gothic structures are DS now

Kill yourself you stupid fucking mong, and your post is fucking retarded garbage as well. Every single fucking facet of this game has been shit and will continue to be fucking shit.
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>you unlocked everything
>now do it again
no mr. dev that's not how it works
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>>558827646
Yeah they did a really good job on the Omnisian Axe executions.
>>558828429
This post reeks of "I just got raped to death in the game and now I'm taking it out on the first person I see who has anything good to say about it".
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>Available for the Assault, Vanguard and Bulwark and Techmarine
>Assault, Vanguard and Bulwark and Techmarine
>and Bulwark and Techmarine
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>>558828429
holy fuck you are retarded
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>>558827646
I like that there are many neat decorations added to chapter pieces, even more that some of them are usable between classes. Definitely props to modellers for that, but could they please finally remove that pesky skull from tactical's prestige shoulder pad. It irks me to no end.
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>>558827646
Yeah pretty much. A great art team ruined by a trash programming and leadership team.
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>>558827589
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>Omg assault is so kino now!
>dash through spore mines
>3 armor and 50% hp gone
Kino my fucking ass.
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>>558831189
>dash through spore mines
What'd you think was gonna happen?
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>>558796703
To Tactical:
>Remove perks replenishing ammo or equipment for teamate
>Add perks passively marking all nearby items to pick up
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>>558831995
It should have iframes obviously
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>>558832607
>>558796703
>No ammo or healing from classes or weapons
This is how it ALWAYS should have been. Space marines don't shit out ammo.
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Does Commitment require you to take Wings of Flame to function properly?
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>>558833259
Well kinda, it should be like DRG where you can just call in supplies from orbit
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im free
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>>558834745
That would also make sense. DRG/HD2 got it right in that its a limited resource you get sometimes.
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Decapitating stratagem seems easier and more convenient, giving back 100% after a medium sized enemy is downed. But its a 90s cooldown, and that 100% return can be over kill if you already have energy left. Whereas Lethal Perimeter while more annoying gives a flat 50% reduction on all shots.

Which is better?
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Finally I don't have to have this stream running in the background anymore.
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Someone told me you wouldn't be able to hear the voice packs if other people had them equipped but I could hear someone had a space wolf.
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techmarine just sucks man, he's got no goddamned boss damage and terrible crowd control
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>>558824409
>>558825384
And here I thought I was a special snowflake for a sons of medusa techmarine

>>558841436
Partially true. Boss damage/extremis killing is the only thing he's good at
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>>558841436
He has 1 viable build and if you don't do it you're basically fucked. You have to use the new relic grenade launcher so you have any level of horde clear on demand, you have to use the relic omni (with top row perks), you have to spam the charging attack to deal any damage (even point blank), and with any horde you have to be near a turret (preferably with the +ammo and invincibility perk) and with a boss you have to charge to apply omnis damage buff + grenade + increased damage from equipment + servo gun + main gun (with headshots) and you MIGHT deal a bit of damage. Still not better than a tact.

Its just a fucking bore. This weird meta gaming bullshit of health, armor, perks, passives, map conditions, ect ect ect boring boring boring.
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fuck it, i'm going to try block omnissiah axe
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>>558841709
>you have to spam the charging attack to deal any damage
Is power rake even considered a charge attack?
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I bought but am saving the campaign for some co-op voice chat nights. What's the most fun class in the meantime?
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>>558842083
If you mean omni charge yes
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>>558842083
It's a held attack which apparently counts
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>>558841436
Sounds like a skill issue
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jesus fucking christ saber has fucked it up and now terminus fights are getting extremis waves, the ones with sound cues, spawning in
getting 5+ extremis with 12+ majoris and dozens of gaunts and a neurothrope all at once
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>>558843261
or maybe this faggot class is just weak and takes double the effort for half the reward of an actual melee class
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>>558843423
Just turret camp bro
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The first swing of the omnissiah axe needs a huge speed buff.
And at least one more weapon perk point.
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>>558843893
and when the turret is inevitably behind the horde, forcing you to kill them first before you could possibly activate it?
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WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I MAKE A DEATHWATCH TECHMARINE?
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This is the best I can do and it's pissing me off.
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>>558844319
You're fucked
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>>558843871
Skill issue
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>>558845192
design issue
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Assault is still useless.
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>>558845296
Yeah, the design of your brain
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>>558845665
Get back to work grigoryinko before you go to the frontline
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Am I high or do the textures potato themselves whenever you alt-tab?
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>>558835845
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>>558846227
>not having two(2) monitors
lol
lmao
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>>558795903
His perks need work. A lot of his prestige perks are fucking insane. One of them makes you invincible for turret repair, which should just be a rule instead of even a non-prestige perk. Just like assault's iframe ground pound prestige perk...

The turrets are like noobtraps until you get that perk. By the time you make it safe enough to repair them, there's usually nothing for them to shoot, and you run passed them, and they go to waste...
Most of the time they just go to waste, because you can't place them yourself like literally every other game in existence with a turret character can do.

The omni axe feels like shit. Seems pretty strong danage-wise, but it has a really lame moveset.

The most crazy thing imo is how little you can customize him. You don't even get the bonding stud pauldron they forced bonding stud owners to reunlock. NOT even any of the brand new dlc cosmetics. The only thing you get that isnt default techmarine exclusive shit, is helmets, and there's still a bunch of them that're restricted for seemingly no other fucking reason than they probably rushed this shit out REALLY hard.
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>the precision servo gun can kill a biovore in 3 hits
Finally I will have my revenge on these fucking bugs
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>>558845781
Have you tried not being bad at the game
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>>558836686
I'd be more for the game forcing you to use melee if they didn't have such fucked up anti-melee enemies.
Thropes and enlightened tzangors range from impossible to pure unfair bullshit if you're out of ammo.
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>>558809998
He was pissed you weren't in his FOV helping him kill his targets like you're his elden ring summon.
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Now I might just be a skilless newbie, but it seems like the enemies for this week's hard strat are hitting way harder than they should for that difficulty level. Either there's a hidden modifier that makes them do like double damage or I'm just tripping. My friends and I have wiped 3 times and we're more confused than frustrated.
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>two of three twitch reward drops are the same as last time
>the third reward is just blue triangles
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>>558847913
Hard is harder than absolute. Just calling hard "hard" makes people think it's ruthless tier, but it's actually absolute+, even without any debuff modifiers.
Hard strat enemies are literally tuned with higher stats.
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>>558848284
It really feels like they cut the usual skeleton crew in half at this point.
Didn't they say there'd be another year of support?
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>>558848419
>Didn't they say there'd be another year of support?
Russians? Liars? No wai. Its bullshit that they're claiming SM2 has support, they're pumping out SM3 as well as that shitty commando game not to mention whatever other garbage is in the works.
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>>558848419
Between Patch 11 and 12 they basically announced two new games didn't they? Toxic Commando and one more thing.
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if all our purchased cosmetics don’t transfer over to Space Marine 3 I’m just going to skip the game
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Goddamn I love the techmarine
I wish they would have put more thought into the classes like they did with this one.
His animations are so cool too. I really hope saber improve upon this system in SM3 otherwise its a waste.
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>>558848982
Lmao there is a 0% chance cosmetics transfer over
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I haven't played in several months but I feel like my performance has gotten worse, for some reason my game can hardly get 60 fps anymore.
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>>558848314
Huh. I guess we just got lucky the last several weeks, we normally play Lethal and it seemed like it was just that with modifiers.

>>558849751
I have noticed areas of levels where there's a dip in fps, especially the new one. Wasn't an issue until a couple of major updates ago.
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>>558845413
>murdered the hardest
>most incapacitations
>blood angel
Accurate
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>>558849130
Yeah because this community doesnt hold them accountability.
People should be demanding for cosmetics to transfer over to SM3 since its probably going to be the exact same fucking game.
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Lift Status: Incomprehensible
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>>558850970
>Yeah because this community doesnt hold them accountability.
No shit, people have been glazing this dogshit game since launch even though it was clear from day fucking 1 that outside the campaign, it was horribly designed.
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You could at fucking least allow for 2 classes to be copies
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>>558850681
>Using a foul xeno-wrought weapon instead of one blessed by Mars
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>literally playing the game as I am staring at a broken website saying it can't find my game
I just want my free gibs, who's the dumb nigger monkeys responsible for this shit?
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Look how they massacred my boy...
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bwoop bwoop bwoop :DDDDD
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>>558824409
>>558825384
This is some bullshit.
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>>558853448
While I hate the fact we can't move/place these, they're actually strong as fuck and I think the +ammo perk is the meta choice just given how many turrets are around main objectives.
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>>558853448
I love the sound effects these little niggas make
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is the pvp in this game any fun, or is it like the first game where only a few weapons mogged everything else?
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I don't think techmarine is the top damage dealer by any means, but if you're genuinely struggling to use him, that's 100% a you problem
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>>558824409
>>558825024
>>558825384
>>558841668
>>558853801
Iron hands is such a boring chapter everyone went for Sons of Medusa lmfao.
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Who wants to bet they actually did plan on lifting the class restriction but it caused so many issues that they couldn't be fucked dealing with?
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>tfw my homebrew is an IH successor but we still don't have the right colors
KARAK STONE WHEN
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>>558854441
I made my tactical iron hands instead.
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>>558850681
>peak Iron Hands
>have a fleshy hand
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>>558841709
>Tell me you suck without telling me you suck

I literally am levelling my prestige through absolute with randoms using the fencing power sword, headshot bonus HBR and with the grenade+servo turret+headshots into bosses I am bringing them down to half health before a full reload. Most of the time the fight is over before I get to a turret which is always round the corner from where we are.

Even the knife on him is fine - the problem is too many of you would die on any character using non meta gear and even then you are clearly, routinely carried without understanding that you are.

Techmarine is not perfect, but its no where as shit as so many complain it is.
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>>558854441
>>558855214
The only cool Iron Hands became Red Talons.
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>>558841709
What the fuck am I reading
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>>558854441
Sons of Medusa are popular because of Astartes, and also they're the only chapter I know of (besides the Iron Hands themselves) that don't have red Tech Marines, so they're appealing in that way.
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>>558855726
You have no idea what you're talking about, be quiet child.
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>>558855996
You suck, stay out of my absolutes.
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>>558855892
Arguably no one HAS to be red. Just like arguably, you do not need to paint your apothecaries white. For me, the best painted apothecaries I have ever seen were only painted white on the helms and tabard, and were otherwise chapter colours underneath.
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Not only does it take longer to load, there's a 50% chance to crash if you go down now. Very cool.
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>>558856034
Don't project your failure on others. Stop posting.
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Its not just the bonding stud shoulders they relocked. I had all the weapon colours unlocked ages ago, and even did a round 30 push late last year to make sure they were.

This is now locked for me again. Which I only noticed because I was going to check it out with the Techmarine prestige headshots perk as an Iron Hand.
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>>558856192
Says the fag describing a meta that doesn't exist, because he sucks at the game fundamentally.

SAD!
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Techmarine is unable to use his Servo-Gun while carrying a Chalice. Also, they did not record a voiceline for him when he picks up a chalice, so a squad mate just speaks for him.

Cool.
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Which bolt rifle is best bolt rifle?
Trick question, it's the bolt carbine.
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>>558856637
the full auto version?
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I have a submission for the /dudewall/

Veteran Sergeant Acchus Varrox
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>>558852250
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>>558856469
Techmarine doesn't have voice lines for ANY mission specific prompts outside of the new mission.
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>>558856723
Yes. Hip fire only.
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>techmarine's defining melee weapon is mediocre
>techmarine can't use block without kneecapping his passive
>techmarine has shit gun access and zero ammo regen
>he has one melee steroid and nothing defensive in his perks for trading
>turrets are RNG and half the time you will have already fought through any ambient enemies or waves before actually getting to the one that spawns, they dish out huge damage but also still die to a single venom cannon
>servo gun is alright but not strong enough to make up for his regular being weak
he's low tier
like sniper he can deal with the small groups of ambients just fine but when 12 ranged warriors, 2 lictors and a ravener materialize in front of him he's got no good options for dealing with it quickly but unlike sniper he can't even invis for safety.
He's not far off from vanguard but vanguard also gives his entire team free HP sustain which means taking some damage while dealing with those random "fuck you" scenarios doesn't kill you. You can deal with everything but its not fun to do so until you get maxed out to do plasma-fire autogun shots
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Don't tell saber.
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>>558859493
>plasma fire autogun shots
I really like the precision gun because I can just negate an entire extremis encounter.
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>>558859690
it can but it can also just sometimes waste 3 shots into gaunts if you looked slightly the wrong way and limits his horde clear
if the gun was more responsive to turn on and off, or the precision just fired one shot at a time instead, i'd prefer it outside of levelling
also just checked, he has 2 melee steroids with the finisher one
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Is there no way to turn off that new retarded giant glow after a headshot with tac/sniper?
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I like Bulwark and Heavy
What i should get?
Already have the power fister and the heavy pistol
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>>558859493
The team perks are just total ass. You could justify playing a gimped class if it brought something good to the table, like if Tac's equipment regen was on on him instead.
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>>558859493
Reads like a skill issue. Now that i've been forced to solo levels for experience, he's the most consistent class I've cleared Absolute with.
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>>558841436
>no boss damage
sniper Q rapes them to death
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>Lamenter cosmetic pack
Huh, is GW planning to make a Malakim Phoros model or what?
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>>558861578
for seven shots and then you're waiting another minute with nothing but HBR or mid omni axe
>>558861517
>he's the most consistent class I've cleared Absolute with
lmao
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Techmarine before prestige IV lv25 = honestly it is kinda ass to level as a class, it's very high class levels loaded with it's good perks
Techmarine Prestige IV Lv25 = highest skill celling class, Onissaiah Axe is God tier melee weapon but not brainlet friendly, the ability to gunstrike for free is so bullshit it has to be nerfed imho, extremely fucking tanking and near immortal even with the turret perks and good playing skills

Anyone that say techmarine is shit and has grinded prestige on it i seriously suggest you: git fucking gud.
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>>558861856
why is the game so sweaty? it should be easier
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>>558835845
yay. time to uninstall the game again
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>>558824409
>>558825384
Ushabti bone for head
Warboss green for body
3rd company gold trim for shoulders
Baal red shoulders
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>>558861459
>The team perks are just total ass.
It's first lv5 team perk is one of the strongest team perks in the entire game
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>>558861941
You have 5 (Five) difficulty settings.
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>>558841436
>he's got no goddamned boss damage
That's the ONE thing he fucking has. Tactical + Techmarine is the fastest boss killing duo in the game.
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>>558856308
and people thought saber forgot about siege
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>>558862156
realistically you can't even farm everything if you're not on difficulty 4 at least
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>>558856803
Received.
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>>558862196
heh
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>>558862110
What the fuck are you smoking anon
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>>558862329
>25% damage reduction on team perk is bad
ok
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>>558852250
Please understand, we small company. No people to check. Thank you for buy!
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>>558861717
My body is ready
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>>558862381
Near an ACTIVE turret which is random, situational, and not present in most situations where you're getting your ass kicked. Your team perk is literally disabled for most of any mission. Are you a saber employee? You need a promotion.
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>>558861717
>>Lamenter cosmetic pack
Cool. Any models for any of the upcoming packs?
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>>558862453
there is literally a turret in every fucking room but boss arena and boss fights are the easier part of any mission with bosses
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>>558861717
>>558862423
>>558862470
As a little fan of Lamenters, I don't even know what they could add beyond armor pieces slapped in hearts. The Lamenters have no distinct visual identity from the Blood Angels or even Ultramarines. They wear robes and use Greco Roman iconography all the same.
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>>558862235
you should be able to play ruthless at level 1.

also you seem to be unaware that for over a year now you can pay to turn green armory data into purple and gold ones. you can stay on minimal forever and have that power fantasy (TM) feeling and still unlock everything.
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>>558862235
You can buy higher tier armory data so nothing is locked away by difficulty
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>>558862550
>level 1.
my weapons don't do any damage
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>>558862540
unimportant. it's reddit's favorite. shekels must flow.
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The Lamenters honestly fit the "break glass in case of massive community backlash and we need good will immediately"
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>>558862867
That's Deathwatch set.
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>>558861443
Heavy Plasma Cannon, Xenophase Blade
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>>558862651
your level doesn't affect the damage.
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>>558862867
who the fuck cares about them though? Normies think Salamanders are the only humanity first chapter
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>>558862968
All the people who still go around thinking the Lamenters' battlecry from that RWBY fanfiction is canon
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These bots are the worst most useless pieces of fucking dogshit I have ever seen in a video game. They can't even fulfil the bare minimum of drawing attention because the enemy AI is obviously geared towards prioritising the player, so you'll have multiple extremis overlapping their attacks on you while the bots are struggling to kill a horde of minoris. I hate them so fucking much, and I hate even more that I wouldn't have to deal with them if Saber weren't a mob of stubborn niggers who stuck to the arbitrary class restriction despite everyone predicting it'd be impossible to matchmake with players when the Tech Marine released.
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Does techmarine lack the stalker and carbine because of some retarded tabletop equipment restriction or is it just a vindictive balance decision by saber?
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is it too slow to grind stuff with bots instead of playing with people? assume difficulty 4
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What do I do during the energy surge fighting the primes?
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>>558864015
Stand in the center.
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>>558863593
>They can't even fulfil the bare minimum of drawing attention because the enemy AI
my brother in the emperor, they don't need to draw attention because you will never be attacked by more enemies than you have slots.
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>>558863810
no, it's pure saber fanfiction. remember that when they try to justify not doing something because it's lore inaccurate and GW watch their backs
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>>558861443
chains of duty is good, fires at max rpm every time you enter heavy stance immediately and makes use of the damage over 50% heat. good synergy with the retribution's bequest, too. strong gun for gun strikes which also cool the chains.
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>>558863810
mostly retardation, generally they're supposed to be rocking higher tech combi-weapons like combi-gravs or combi-plas but since the only combi weapons are on the shittiest bolters there are its purely to make him not function as a real ranged class
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>>558863810
I don't know why techmarine have auto bolter rifle when heavy bolter rifle exist?

I meant, what purpose does an ABR have to offer over an HBR and carbine?
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I keep getting disconnected and this retarded game and it kills my mission progress, fucking jews
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>>558863810
They'll add it to the tech in a later patch and call that "content".
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On top of random turrets I think instead of having grenades tech should have a turret they can place, can only hold one, picking up grenades gives you a single turret instead. Then change all of the grenade perks to turret perks. Could even be a weaker version with a single gun.
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>spent last 20 minutes quick match -> return to barge loop because i dare to wanting playing techmarine
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i just love when the game randomly picks the wrong direction to parry
also love when it crashes for no reason
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>>558811885
>Due to time constraints, we made the choice to focus on Techmarine’s gameplay rather on its customisation options.
>time constraints
What fucking time constraints? They make their own damn roadmap and set the dates themselves. Maybe stop making fuckton of other shitty games only a handful favela residents play in between drive-bys. Vatniks are truly smoking some hard shit.
>Rest assured, we will expand the armour options as part of future updates. The Techmarine will have access to various armour parts.
Cool, I'm waiting for the moment I'll have to grind more wins to unlock new pieces because 'heee heee it DID say each set need X number of wins!".
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The occulus carbine headshot version feels so good to use, such a shame that the two classes that can use it can’t regen ammo. Without ammo regen you’re dry after a big fight, really wish it was on sniper and tac. So far it seems like the new HBR with a plasma or inferno pistol are the best guns to use on tech, still not sure which melee weapon is best. The new heroic knife is very strong and you can confirm a level one shadow strike with the auto gun strikes. Balanced power axe deals very nice damage, power sword whirl spam is safer with the auto gun strikes. Big axe feels a bit clunky but the damage on the balanced one is alright. Just wish they would make balanced weapons have no start up frames on parry but with half the active frames, the delay feels awful and gets you frame trapped.
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>>558867286
I don’t think tech will be getting any new armour, just access to all of the class agnostic stuff they should have access to.
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What is a riposte in the context of the new heroic knife?
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melee is too weak, the game needs to stop trying to be CoD and buff melee already
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>>558867464
Perfect parry deals damage to the guy you parried, kinda like Bulwark's perk. It's basically best in slot on tactical for general use imho.
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odds DAKKA
even PEW PEW
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i dont really understand the omnissian strike after the rush. sometimes it does 1, sometimes 2, sometimes 3, i obviously get that it depends on distance but its really inconsistent. sometimes i travel max distance and just do 1 strike. the final shockgrenade perk also seems to override the 3times strike, always only does one. also 15second cooldown seems like a wrong tooltip, it happens once every blue moon.
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>>558831073
Shouldn't those be organically spawned?
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>>558867464
on the pts it did ~12% of a nid melee warriors life and auspex applies before the damage, so its about 25%. its best in slot for tactical, probably for forever.

>>558867551
i disagree
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>>558866676
The best one is where you get dumped into a mission as a random character.
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>>558868347
The heavy bolter is perhaps the worst heroic so far.
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>>558868624
How can you say that when the combi melta and heroic pistol exist
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You guys weren't kidding about Absolute right now, holy fuck. Six Extremis are spawning alongside bosses.
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>>558868738
Which heroic pistol?
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>>558864002
Play Ruthless Inferno
Always grab the gene sneed
Decapitation is a little longer since you have to place bombs yourself and a low level Techmarine can't fight the Hive Tyrant without dying
The sniper servo gun is better than the plasma servo gun
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>>558868347
you fucked up
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>>558868445
>Auspex applies before the damage
It's probably unintentional but holy moly. As if tac wasn't broken enough.
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>like half of all techmarine art has legs just like the black templars champion legs
>techmarine can't equip them in-game
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>>558868348
You have to hold the button down until the stabs go off by them self, if you let go and tap the button you’ll only do one. Very awkward feeling
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Is it me or have they widened the Zoanthrope's beam? Not physically but the hitbox seems to get me even when I dodge the bea,
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>>558869720
The beam genuinely needs reworked. The further you are away from the Zoan, the exponentially harder it become to dodge. The window for dodging turns into tens of milliseconds at the furthest distance.

Ruskies don't understand speed in relation to a pivot. I'm sure they'd understand if I whipped them.
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>>558866676
>i dare to wanting playing techmarine
Did Saber write this post?
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What's servo-gunstrike damage dependent on? Equipped secondary or is it just a set value?
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>>558859493
>he has one melee steroid
Nigger, what the fuck are you talking about. He has 3
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>>558870256
Difficulty AFAIK

Strongest gunstrike in the game.
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power sword feels way better than the omni axe its unreal
you can just melee into swarms regularly and get infinite armor back because the base knockback gives you gunstrikes, no slow ass initial melee or weird set up shit or awkward charging
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>>558870731
He seems like he'd have great synergy with assault with how dependent on gunstrikes he is.
But that's just a theory because I haven't been able to play with anyone as techmarine for days.
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>>558870256
>>558870731
To add, each different type of shoulder gun has the same gunstrike damage however the plasma has AOE.
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>>558864570
Minoris ignore slots.
Extremis ignore slots.
Terminus ignore slots.
Ranged enemies ignore slots.
Even majoris under certain circumstances ignore slots.
Slots are not reliable in any scenario more intense than a couple majoris and nothing else attacking you.
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Tech should get tacs nade regen team perk, then give tac an ammo regen team perk (something like 10% ammo back every 60 seconds)
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>>558868624
they added worse heroic knife to the game
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>>558872063
Literally a fantastic plug on Tactical who now gets a better Intimidating Aura when combined with Ausp on Parry.
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>>558872063
Are you high? New heroic knife fucks shit up so much it's not even a discussion. It gives Tactical even more push. It's essentially this >>558872153
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>>558872063
The parry damage is almost as much as a gunstrike, very strong. It’s high base damage let’s the shadow strike hit pretty hard too. Also it looks great
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>>558871261
Plasma + zoning passive is great. Gives you a lot more shots and isn't that much more work than just pressing one button. Plus the 100% regen often fucks up anyway.
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>>558872063
Anything that is damage on parry is going to be busted as fuck. My only regret is that Bulwark can't use the knife as well so we could one tap everything.
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>>558870731
>>558871261
doesn't it add heat from volkite?
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First thing I did after installing the update was replacing all fencing presets with the knife. Since the description is so vague and knife has been mostly considered a block weapon i hope saber will not nerf it.
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Saber broke matchmaking again
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Whenever someone complains about something being bad I generally assume it's a retarded blocknigger that doesn't know how to play the game
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>>558872939
'again'? what am i supposed to be looking at? of course you're not getting matches as a techmarine, what did you expect. and the bug where players are not replaced if they left has never been fixed.
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>>558872958
nigga just press parry twice then use a light attack. if noone is attacking you, dodge or shoot them in the face to draw aggro. you don't lose anything, you still can gunstrike if you perfect dodge. it's been over a year since the block rework, just learn the fucking game.
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>>558859546
Have you tried running through a pack of Gaunts with the Axe charge and spamming gun strikes?
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I don't care how many times they buff Balanced, I am not giving up Fencing.
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>>558859546
I might reconsider attempting absolute vortex again once people get bored of techmarine and matchmaking starts working again
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>>558873298
Absolute is actually unplayable right now. The spawns are broken and are like 3x larger than usual.
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>>558873215
Why would I learn to block when every single perk is based around parry and gunstrikes?
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>>558872748
I like the sniper one with the zone, silly boss damage. I’ve heard plasma with the fire is also really strong but haven’t had a chance to use it yet since i’m just grinding out the prestige perks.
>>558872824
I don’t believe so, you only gun strike with your pistol when the shoulder gun is firing.
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In the final scoreboard what are 'Special Kills' exactly?
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>>558873958
extremis and terminus
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>>558873958
Extremis and I'm pretty sure terminus.
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>>558873231
Yes.
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>>558872063
It's fencing+damage parries.
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>>558868348
1. Hold to charge
2. Hold on impact to do 1-3 stabs (highest single target damage) OR;
3. Release > Tap > AoE explosion

My confusion is why 3 sometimes puts down a lightning field. Doesn't say what or why.
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>could've gotten simulated large scale battles with guard vs chaos militia for the PvP mode
>we got 6v6 pseudo-competitive slop instead
sometimes I feel like I'm smarter than every single game developer in existence while having no actual game dev experience
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>>558875412
game is already too demanding with few people in it
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>>558875340
>2. Hold on impact to do 1-3 stabs (highest single target damage) OR;
NTA but I'm doing this and it just doesn't work. I've done it once accidentally, but doing the above provides nothing.
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>>558875475
I always see this argument that "it's just not possible" but I bet the Planetside 2 devs never said anything like that internally when making that game
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>>558875628
Its distance based, you need a lot of runway
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>>558875412
keep us posted on your game, I will definitely buy it when it's done.
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At this point I don't know what the developers want.

>Melee isn't strong enough at the absolute peak of difficulty bullshit where they've either intentionally or accidentally increased the spawns to the highest seen in the game
>But also there's not enough ammo to sustain your ranged options in these same fights unless you're Tactical or Sniper who have the best ammo restore perks
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Any idea why I got 200 accolades when I logged in?
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>>558875867
A mistake. The accolades will be subtracted to offset your currency balance on your next login. We apologize for the confusion!
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>>558875867
There's an event where when people supposedly cleared the new op enough times they would give 200 accolades to everyone as a reward.
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>>558875340
>My confusion is why 3 sometimes puts down a lightning field. Doesn't say what or why.
That is the last perk in the top tree in the onmi axe.
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>>558873289
As someone who's been playing using all three types I have a suspicion bordering on certainty that fencing was the "design" melee block type from the beginning. You engage with the enemies more using that blocking type. Block and balanced must've been added to increase the variety and give people something to choose from because there's so few options in terms of making builds (especially at launch).

I still prefer fencing though, it's a lot more fun to me. Anyway, eat your heart out Dmitry!
Btw, that don't doesn't mean I don't see the use for the other two. Quite the opposite.
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Am I crazy or did Tyranid snipers become impossible to dodge at max range? Shit always hits me if I'm not close after last patch
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>>558876680
They fire actual projectiles so if you dodge directly towards or away from them at a long enough distance the projectile hits you after your iframes expire.
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I thought you guys were fucking around.
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>Keep getting kicked because I join as a techmarine
Great game design you vatnik retards
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>>558872958
Nah

Even fencing Omnissian Axe is dogshit

The Techmarine should be barely in melee, the axe is more of a symbol of office than something they use frequently in combat
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>>558877003
just host your own lobby then?
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Man, why is everyone do negative? The bugs are pissing me off and it's obvious the voice packs are unfinished cash grabs so I understand people having problems with that. But some of you guys are like nothing is ever good enough, everything should be different, more content more more more. We got functioning PvP and double the PvE missions since the launch. Is nobody else enjoying the game?
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>>558877294
I'm enjoying it, currently using the Pyreblaster on Tactical.
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>>558877294
include the word 'doom' next time so that you can be filtered more easily.
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>>558877056
Not how marines or admech thinks. The best things are kept for the people at the top, so it's the top tech that becomes a badge of office.
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>>558877294
>Is nobody else enjoying the game?
I practically couldn't play with other players as techmarine for about two days so far.
I don't find bots to be effective or enjoyable teammates.
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>>558877294
Because these devs don't listen to the most basic pieces of feedback, and when they do, it's often with some smarmy remark about "their vision."

Take the Biovore for example. The king that dethroned the Zoans, Neuro, and Chaos Terminators for being considered the most dogshit unfun enemy to fight in the game. They did a poll featuring every boss in the game plus these guys, and naturally everybody voted the Biovore for the most "scary" enemy to fight. Everybody commented why, from players being unable to uproot the Biovore on any level when it's spamming spore mines, to it scurrying off like a fucking faggot whenever you get vaguely close etc. and the devs just responded with "haha that's crazy *smiley face.*"
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>>558877209
I want to play with others, not just run through the level with worthless bots.
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>>558877437
try grooming your own battlebrothers
>become the host
>set up a minimal inferno
>play a mission with some clueless new players
>when you are back, change to average
>when you are back, change to substantial
>when you are back, change to ruthless
remember to cheer them up when they execute an extremis or terminus or at the end of the mission
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>>558877695
>drag what are almost certainly completely inept players up to absolute
>assuming they stay for six operations in a row and that I want to slog through six operation in a row on trivial difficulties
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>>558877056
It's a fully practical and functional power weapon that performs on par with other standard power weapons, they don't carry it around just for show.
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>>558871419
>Tactical
Put Secure Stockpile on Techmarine, give it a new team perk like letting other teammates gain auspex on parries
Aligned Aim gets 40% damage increase for all ranged weapons
Advanced Conditioning has -75% slower contested health loss and all stimpacks regenerate full health for the rest of the squad
>Techmarine
Secure Stockpile is the same as the Tactical, remove Combat Squad Resupply
Reinforced Position should make the turret invulnerable as long as there's a squadmate camping near the turret at 15 meters, if there's a Techmarine present at 15 meters it also does not go offline and will keep shooting at enemies
Battlefield Repairs gains 2 armour segments every 60 seconds and every medpack use gives back full armour plus extra armour segments (2 for Phobosniggers and 1 for everyone else)
>Heavy
Encompassing Aegis gives 50% ranged reduction if Iron Halo is active, 25% if turned off
Additional Supplies doubles ammo capacity for every squad's guns and replenishes 1 ammo box worth of ammo every 60 seconds
Bonds of Brotherhood restores full health, full armour and 50% of ammunition upon revival, Iron Halo does not lose energy if used and is fully replenished if under cooldown
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>>558877294
Nah fuck vatniks

These vatniks should be pushed out of SM3 and have someone else be the dev

I wager that even the Highguard devs would make a decent SM2 than these morons
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>>558877869
I think you don't want to play with people, you just want to complain. Anyway, I'm going to do this again today and have fun.
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>>558878068
Just let the ziggers make the campaign and art and let another more compenent and less passive-aggressive team develop the live service stuff
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disruption is actually fast despite the large map size but the bridge segment with valtus can get bugged
he's just stuck there
the map being large also means you'll miss out on the geneseed
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>>558877437
The sweaty tryhards are mostly maxed out out now on the Techmarine, it's the dad gaymers and noobs who will be leveling up this weekend.

People will swarm back to the new operation once the hotfix shows up next week. I got stuck on the bridge in Absolute after soloing a Carnifex thanks to infinite grenade shots with the drop pod nearby :))
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>>558875709
So basically it's unusable.
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It's annoying that the pauldron edge and the eagle aren't separate colour category because I'm reasonably close to getting Caedo for my Tactical Marine.
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>>558877695
How much harder is lethal compared to ruthless?
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>>558879468
>Three color blocks
>On nearly every single piece of armor, or even decals, 1/2 of the color blocks you can customize do nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5T5YZ6mYLA
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>>558879272
I was surprised to learn there's no fox and grapes porn on e621 that i could crop to at you.
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>>558879890
Anon, logically think about this. In how many scenarios are you going to be the exact distance away for you to be able to use this specific move? Are you going to run around and shuffle your position for a slight damage boost on your sprinting lights? No, you're just going to Omnissian Rush > Light > Probably parry the faggot you rushed > Light + Gunstrike > Execute.
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>>558879468
something's wrong about the colors
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Sniper or plasma servo gun?
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>>558880747
sniper better vs bosses with tactical auspex
plasma better overall
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>>558880747
There is literally no scenario where plasma is better in any way
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>Finally decide to start playing tech marine thinking that the craze must be at least a little lower
>Do my 3 daily stratagems with bots
>Follow up with 3 ruthless with bots
>Not a single person joined
6 games with bots get boring real fast, I guess I will force myself to at least prestige him so I can get my FUCKING SHOULDER BACK DMITRI
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>>558881382
the ziggers making absolute more difficult bit them in the ass and now everyone and their mother running techmarine are farming on ruthless and lethal
actual newbs are playing on average to substantial as well
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>>558880747
Good 'ol normal bolter one.
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>>558881473
I know, absolute is bugged. People speak a lot about the extra spawns that come together with a terminus but I had something else entirely during my weekly hard strat : 3 terminus in total.
Just what the fuck?
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>>558880485
Gave it a shot, classic Space Bloke.
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>>558881610
Termination does not count the giant Biotitan as a Terminus even though it should but it does with the Trygon, Mutalith Vortex Beast and double flying Tyranids.

Saber are absolute nincompoops.
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>>558881610
anon please understand, we have a big screen in the office showing metrics 24/7 and if the winrate of absolute or hard strats goes above a certain threshold our pay is reduced
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>>558881842
I'm going super lazy by picking a preset and I fuck the lore. Hammers of Dorn look aesthetically pleasing to me on tech.
>>558881854
>>558882179
1 neuro 1 carni is enough, I didn't need the extra neuro.
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>>558882252
Aye that does look good.
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>>558882352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
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>>558882352
>not now, i'm doing something
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>>558882352
>everyone takes the headshot perks for the bolt guns
>no one realizes that taking all the headshot perks mean that the grenade launcher does dogshit damage
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Telorian's key art is pretty fucking sick ngl.
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>Tyranids
Precision Enhancement
Strategic Gun Strike
Lethal Perimeter

>Thousand Sons
Plasma Enhancement
Omnissiah's Fury

The most dangerous enemies on the Tyranid's side are all weak to headshot damage, yet seem highly resistant to fire damage in comparison to Chaos. Zoanthropes are a good example where this dichotomy becomes apparent. Any Tactical who has tried to burn a Zoan to death with the Pyreblaster will tell you how obnoxiously painful it is to experience.

Thousand Sons are the opposite. With the massive cluster of Chaos Spawn, dispensing a plasma-spreading wave of fire decimates the dozen of them the game loves dropping on you. The incendiary ammo also helps against the lack of synaptic feedback shock, their Minoris not nuking themselves upon the death of a Majoris. The fire spreading from target to target ensures as many kills as possible.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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Well, from the datamines at least we know they "planned" (tm) to have Telorian speak. And considering they need a week to roll out a hotfix for new wave of bugs i.e. that you-shall-not-pass glitch in the new mission, I wholly expect them to deliver a few lines for one old op mid 2027.
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>>558855214
Good news for Brother! You'll be able to put even more fluff on him when he gets his Iron Hands Champion skin.
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Can I get a QRD on meltas?
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When it comes to the bolt carbine, do people prefer the auto or semi-auto version? I've tried both and lean more towards semi but I'm wondering if the DPS difference is negligible.
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>>558884578
When you need to do damage to a lot of things at once, but not that much
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>>558877294
if everyone had your mindset, Ubisoft would still be a successful company
gamers deserve better, stop settling for slop
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>>558885563
>to a lot of things at once, but not that much
That's like, the opposite of what meltas do on tabletop.
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>>558886378
Yes.
It's carrying on what the meltagun did in SM1 over a decade ago, they turned it into a really close range energy shotgun.
Except meltabombs in SM2 work entirely differently to the meltaguns and will instantly kill pretty much everything weaker than terminus in a large area of effect.
I think the 40k mod for cortex command of all things is the only time I've seen meltaguns actually depicted faithfully as close range armor piercing death rays in a video game.
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>>558855726
>bug where Valtus just stands there after pimp handing the heldrake, invisible walling us from progressing
Ok. It's a cool mission. Urban street levels feel cool to fight in.
We needed more double faction missions.
No boss, but there's multiple last stand sections like at the end of inferno, which rules.
But I'm not wasting like 20 minutes, plus loading screens, waiting on armouring hallers, and all the lobbies you have to leave because tech is taken, just for rng to fuck me out of getting all the measly xp I just earned.
I'm not playing that mission until they fix that shit. So I guess that means no quick matching for extra xp.

Fuck you, Saber. You incompetent fucking faggots.
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GOD I FUCKING FORGOT HOW DOGSHIT MATCHMAKING WAS IN THIS GAME
>LE HOST YOUR OWN GAME
ONLY IF THERE WAS A DEDICATED OPTION FOR THAT
MY FUCKING GOD I WISH THOSE RETARDED ZIGGERS GOT FUCKING DRONED YESTERDAY
HOLY FUCK PLEASE PUTIN CONSCRIPT THOSE SABER VATNIKS AND MAKE THEM FUCKING DIE
FUCK SABER FUCK ZIGGERS AND FUCK 40KFAGS
FUCK
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>>558887809
>he said calmly
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>>558887872
I LOVE ERROR CODE 140
I LOVE ERROR CODE 142
I LOVE MATCHMAKING BREAKING AND PLACING YOU INTO A """"PUBLIC""""" GAME THAT'S ACTUALLY PRIVATE
I LOVE INVISIBLE BARRIERS IN NEW MISSION
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>>558887809
This but unironically
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oh wow now my class gets randomly changed during loading
so fucking fun
GUESS I'LL JUST RUN ANOTHER 20 INFERNOS WITH BOTS
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>>558887809
>le droned
>le conscripted
They escaped during peak 2022 and resettled in Budapest and Cyprus.

Same shit with the War Thunder devs.
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>>558887809
>>558888094
Careful, someone could misconstrue those as overtly negative criticism.
I do agree with those. I mean that update and everything that went down on that day onward (plus an oblivious community post) beggar belief.
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>>558888562
I pray to Allah for Turkey to reclaim its rightful lands. Maybe those subhuman vatniks would die in the process.
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>>558881264
Plasma has spash, so more kills for less energy.
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I wish there was some sort of targeting range indicator so you knew how far you actually were for any of these distance damage perks to work
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>>558862098
This man is onto something.
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>>558880747
normal if you want a reliable 'clear everything on my screen' or sniper if you want to get rid of majoris and specials, plasma is garbage at both
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>>558888672
If you're using the servo gun to kill minoris, you are literally too stupid to play the game. Servo gun is exclusively for gaggles of majoris and above, which plasma does fuck all against
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>>558877294
People online tend to complain more than praise, especially here where one can just vent frustrations without consequence. Also just because someone is bitching about one thing doesn't mean that they hate the entire product (otherwise why would they bother unless they're so miserable that they'll bitch about a game they don't play - though that does happen). Then of course opinions are like assholes - everyone has one - and even if they fixed something someone else would bitch about it; say they nerf the Biovore only for some turbosweats to say that the game is being casualised for consolefags. Meanwhile the people who had been bitching and calling for the nerfs won't stick their head above the parapet and say how great it is that they can now not have their game ruined by some obnoxious enemy.
>>558886808
Fire Warrior as I recall basically had the melta function as a heatgun but I cannot find footage of it because no-one likes that game.
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>>558888836
>plasma is garbage at both
Sasuga Saber
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>>558888816
Can't tell if you're using it in this image, but use Averland Sunset for the lenses too.
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>>558888876
>so bad it's good cult classic, with memes, joke reviews and playthroughs recorded by multiple people on the internet
>can't find footage of it
yeah
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> didnt even bother to add voicelines for techmarine carrying the relic so another marine on your team voices as if he is carrying it

holy shit they fucking cheaped out big time on voicing the new class.
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>>558889127
You got it, boss.
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>>558889635
Kek, was it too hard to put generic "I didn't find anything" voice lines.
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I genuinely cannot fucking parry Biovores despite having nearly 800 hours in this game. It's like trying to read the fighting stance of a bar of soap, it just goes from 0-100 on that fucking headbutt that staggers you into the faceblast.
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>>558889635
I thought it was just bugged at first, I refused to believe they could be so cheap and lazy they didnt spend 1 hour having the VA record those generic lines. But hey if they put actual effort in THE DLC WOULD HAVE BEEN 25 EUROS PLS UNDERSTAND so I guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore
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I realized that if you play solo Ruthless/Lethal/Absolute you go around the entire camp for those fucking codes and you experience no less than three powerplant defense sections instead of just two

This is too tedious for a solo player and bots don't carry heroic weapons and will revert to any random Relic gun you have equipped (had a Sniper using a carbine and a Bulwark with a power axe)
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>>558889903
I find it really inconsistent. Sometimes I do it perfectly sometimes it hits me every time.
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I think I am done putting my cock in the blender that is hard weekly stratagem
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>>558890020
Try early next week, everyone is still grinding for the Techmarine even the good players

If not just post code
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>>558889635
They fucked up everything to do with the new voice customization.
I've been running Scip's voice on my tech, and he says his chameleoline cloak is ready every time the servo gun recharges.
The text on your voice line wheel stays default when you switch voices.
DLC voices supposedly don't have any lines that interact with other voices at all, so they're all autistically quiet in comparison to vanilla voices. And they supposedly don't work with helmets, that part might be bullshit. Or maybe the Anon complaining meant that the vox filters don't apply when you put on a helmet. Idk, I didn't buy that bullshit.
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>>558889903
I always make a little bit of space so it jumps at me instead of doing its point-blank AOE
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Double discharge for the omni axe is a death sentence
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>>558890296
Pls understand they cant pay voice actors cuz budget and cant use AI because the devs are all left leaning faggots.
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>>558890365
For me or the mob?
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>>558889579
Well I didn't feel like spending 20 minutes looking for meltagun gameplay in some guy's let's play at first but it is a Saturday.
https://youtu.be/TNgpSiH7lpE?si=dANfs9DOgK_dqwA4&t=4855
Looks jank.
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>>558890317
This

The safest thing to do against Biovores is to sit back a little so it baits them into the leap. Melee against them is pure AIDS.
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>>558795020
That video actually put the marines in a different light for me the Titus gap moe and blush is cute. I'm not gay but if I was a girl it would probably work for me.
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>>558890365
Yeah it takes too long for it to connect and you've most likely either killed or knocked everything back with the first hit.
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is there a video that compares how much damage each servo gun does to an extremis and terminus enemy?

wild that there's still no training arena
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I sure do love my team perks costing 500 reqs
hahahahhaHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>558891128
and why do you need a video instead of three numbers?
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>>558891267
so i can see how much dps each one spits out and how fast they melt each target
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optimal difficulty for xp farming on decapitation? ruthless?
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>>558891591
If you can handle an extra Terminus go Lethal

If you only want the Hive Tyrant go Ruthless

Absolute has been borked since the few updates, only farm there if you're with frens
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Just bought this what am in for

For reference, I disliked Darktide, it was boring as shit
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>>558891703
yep probably just going to go ruthless and play it safe.
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>>558892632
If you're running Techmarine, Inferno is the fastest

Low level Techmarines have no killing power against the Hive Tyrant and bots do shit damage
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>>558890663
For you. It's slower than the hammer double hit
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>>558892214
>Just bought this what am in for
Parrykino
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>>558892214
Fun up until Lethal/Absolute difficulty and then it's all the same bullshit as lategame Darktide
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>>558893085
>lategame Darktide
i heard that's when it gets good though, I wouldn't know I only played 10 hours on the first difficulty
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>>558892872
So I guess I'm better off taking the 10% more damage when I have armor up.
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Provided I don't get completely fucked by getting 3 shooty termies and a helbrute/3 zoans and a carnifex then most Absolute games aren't that bad.
No fucking way I can solo a train of crushers, tox bomber clouds, flamers, and a chaos spawn.
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>>558893237
>10 hours on first difficulty
Actual seditionlet. I didn't even know they really existed.
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>>558893237
Please be bait
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I did not enjoy my time.
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ticks on my strats have been reset.
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>>558894378
>45K melee damage
Yeah, the spawns are definitely out of control. I'd be lucky to see 32K on Absolute before this update.
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>>558888562
Budapest is essentially a vassal state now, if Putin wanted to, he could conscript them from there.
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The charge AOE attack after the light on the Omnissian Axe does so much retard damage even on Fencing that I don't see the point of running Balanced. At 13 damage, when using the additional AOE and a gun strike, it's still nuking Majoris into an immediate execute.
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>>558899021
Another guy in the thread said the double explosion takes too long. What's your take on it?
I unironically haven't been able to get into a game as I unlocked that final weapon perk to try it out myself.
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>>558899252
>What's your take on it?
You can dodge between the attacks when the axe is coming back up, so there is a get out card if you feel unsafe.
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>>558890865
Their weakspots are bullshit, and everything else is armored, so I always mainly melee them. Or I'll use a melta bomb on even just one if I have one and it's absolute or hard.
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Is matchmaking fucked or are people just not playing the game as a boycott? I can barely load into matches for either techmarine farming or hard stratagems
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>>558901616
>techmarine farming
Here is your problem
The game literally was not designed for a new class addition so if you play techmarine right now 99% of your MM is solo
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>>558902398
Guess I'll just farm ogryn kills in Darktide then
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>join a lobby
>change from techmarine
>play the op
>the techmarine guy abandons the lobby before i load in after coming back from the mission
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You know there's an option for multiple classes since there's a mod out there that can dump 2 dozen players in one map

The ziggers simply didn't want to do it because it would make the new Operation "too easy" and the zigger devs don't like players beating "their" maps
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>>558902760
welcome to /sm2g/. remember, under no circumstances post codes.
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Ok post a code and I'll join your game as something other than techmarine
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This perk is dogshit and would be infinitely better if it was just a -50% universal spread reduction instead of ONLY when hipfiring.
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>>558868624
>>558872063
opinion this shit on 4chan of all places, my my
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>>558876536
balanced was the "design" melee block type, its what you use in the campaign.
block, despite being one of the best options, feels like an aftertgought because it is. its basically a mod slapped on a previously worthless defensive type with no thought put into it initially.
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>>558902760
Contrary to the usual shitposting you can get a lobby with good players round here. That's even more likely now when everyone's having problems with MM.
Saber's discord echo chamber is up in flames and not just because of that. These clowns couldn't have made their PR worse even if they tried.
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>>558892214
Worse shooting and melee combat than darktide and somehow worse devs and support compared to darktide's entire lifespan
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I'm calling it, parrying is broken. The amount of fucking shit going through my parry window is beyond me being suddenly shit at the game.
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Maybe GW should send Henry Cavill over to Saber HQ to rein those devs and their head honcho in?

Maybe then they wouldn't fuck up any updates and PTS would actually serve to improve planned updates?
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>>558908894
>parrying is broken
It is. But blocking in general stopped working in lots of fights rn. If I took this seriously I'd be mad but I'm at a point where it's outright hilarious to watch all the bugs and kinks unfold.
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>>558909340
Based chudville holding the writers to account. Im honestly glad that GW only signed with amazon on the contagion that they would respect the lore and Henry's direction for the show.
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>>558909923
>respect the lore
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>play Termination daily
>shadow of the warp
>nobody fucking marks anything
I really have to wonder how people like this function in daily life
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>>558909923
I'm still surprised that Cavill's "lol guys i'm such a nerd teehee" shit worked on people. I guess Witcher being such a shitshow was a blessing in disguise for him.
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>>558910501
hasnt he painted since he was like 10 years old?
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>>558910501
Say what you will about Cavill but if there's one thing I bet he's really a fan of it's 40k. The Dude has been painting Custodes for a long time.
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>>558889635
Telorian only has voice lines for the new maps, that's about it. Everything previous map the voice will be another marine. Funnily enough, sometimes it's not even one who is in the mission, I was playing with bots since no one was joining obviously and my bots were Quartus and Scipius. Decimus was the one doing the mission voices.
10/10 Vatnik quality.
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>>558910816
his biggest crime is painting cringestodes. everybody knows grey knights are way cooler.

>>558911320
I feel vindicated in not buying the season 2 pass or the voice packs desu. Waiting to see how the iron hands chapter pack looks before i consider getting the season pass.
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>>558911320
Not to mention his banter barely triggers. At first I thought he had none, but he suddenly started talking with iirc Tactical about Xenos technology in the middle of Decapitation.
It was shit btw.
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>>558909340
>3 Lictors
>1 biovore
>1 carni
>1 prime
Would you call that balanced? I don't play the tabletop.
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>>558795020
//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////

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>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE.
>All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.
>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.
>All Brothers are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.

Welcome Brothers! A new update to the game and a new to the Dude Wall are upon us. I hope the latter, though smaller in scope this time, will prove less faulty and there will be no need to consult a Tech Priest. Here is the latest:
- Latest submission for IH#11 has been added to the image version (the website will be updated within 3-4 hours)
- Due to 11th Dude having been added minor repositioning of the Iron Hands was done to maintain the style of the section.

As I mentioned it's a smaller update, but in order not to make it so minuscule I'll just add that I continue to work on new frames for successor chapters. There's a lot to look forward there.
Should you have more /YourDudes/ to post or update, Brothers, don't hesitate. The Dude Wall is always open!
Please enjoy!

Signing off,
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>>558912056
retard alert
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>>558912056
Those are von ryan's leapers, a screamer killer, and a psychophage.
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>>558911537
>grey knights are way cooler.
They are indeed cool, Brother.
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>>558892214
Be a huge man doing huge man things with your bros(no homo). Play gun Sekiro. Become simultaneously engrossed in a fairly deep combat system and baffled by game design choices devised by the utterly deranged. Fuck up a single(1) parry and die because you tried to man fight a blob of 5+ majoris enemies and got comboed like you went to a south american arcade and stumbled upon any KoF machine. Get carried by people with hundreds of hours in the game and nothing better to do because the gear/progression curve is some exponential have and have nots bullshit. Attempt the easier Tyranid missions on Absolute and have a great time until a Neurothrope spawns. Praise the Emperor.
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>>558909340
Very based, notice how he tell them to read the codex and not the nigger library books.
He knows where the true lore lies.
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>25% meleedamage after gunstrike for 5s prestige perk
>refreshes itself
WHY JUST THIS ONE SABER WHY
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>>558916942
we need to keep balanced relevant
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>>558877294
While a lot of the negativity may sometimes be snowballing effect, this time around the devs and Saber at large had it coming. I mean pic related is that Arrowhead retard CM-levels of condescending reply. Every update brings more bugs, most of them new but some of them are a recurring theme (see parrying not registering - this was a thing in the past, patched up supposedly).

That pic related is the only proof of Saber CM replying to that obvious bait, they've since removed that. They literally think they are entitled to releasing shit because 'hey we have deadlines to keep, duh'. Fuck em seriously. They deserve every bit of criticism they're getting now.
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>>558892214
At launch I would have said a great campaign and promising coop. Now I would say a waste of money and time.
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>>558917356
>that CM response
holy fuck this is some next level derangement
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>getting stunlocked by just a 3 tyranid warriors or overlapping shots are messing up parries
haven't played since last patch, is this normal or did i just get worse at the game? using balanced melee/techmarine
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>>558918324
>balance
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>>558918403
idk, never had an issue with it before. was mostly just speed running accolades as Heavy, if i even played the game
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>>558918324
Parry window is bugged as fuck again, and Balanced is never going to be viable no matter how much they pump the damage purely because of that dogshit startup.
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>>558917064
that has nothing to do with balanced. all or nearly all "condition: gunstrike/execute/pp or pb = hyperarmor/damageincrease/damagereduction" perks do not refresh themselves.
if you for example have hyperarmor on perfect parry/block active and pp/pb within the duration it will NOT refresh the duration. the prestigeperk on tech doing exactly that just infuriates me more because its testament for the ruskies just doing everything on accident.
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>>558918704
>no matter how much they pump the damage
>mfw equipped biggest numbers on load outs
it's probably best i never actually used any of them in months.
never knew i was going to need to read "patch notes" on a comfy "rooty tooty shooty" game
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>>558919149
Balanced is fine up to Ruthless. I genuinely consider it unusable on Lethal and Absolute on any class besides nu-dodge Assault and Bulwark, and that's because those two can just get-out-of-jail card dodge out of a fucked up parry.
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>>558919538
thanks for explaining, anon.
and i'll start reading patch notes before posting from now on.
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>>558919686
Here's an image explaining the differences, and highlighting the problem with Balanced.
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>>558919070
I mean the perk is only relevant to balanced. With fencing you don't care about about melee damage at all, and it doesn't make much sense to go blocking since the entire class is built around gunstrikes
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>>558919909
i need to test this later.
not sure how i feel about accidentally programming a "165ms delay" into my brain: i've been autistically tapping the block twice. one for the "start up" and one for the hit connection
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>>558920206
>With fencing you don't care about about melee damage at all
i´m not some fencing-only-enthusiast but thats not true, especially on tech. what are you going to do? shoot your 4 mags and then do nothing?
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For anyone like me who has been trying to figure out just exactly how far 7 meters or 20 meters is for these fucking game descriptions, a meter is apparently a centimeter. 30 meters is the Shadow of the Warp sightline, which is practically nothing. So 7 meters for the Butcher modifier means you have to be literally on top of someone for it to work, and 20 meters for the techie perk means if you're any amount of distance away, you're good.

Assuming there's any degree of consistency, of course
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>>558920537
>a meter is apparently a centimeter
anon you are going to be extremely disappointed when you learn what perspective is.
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Do you think these devs are aware that, at this point, the game would be literally unplayable if it wasn't for the execution system? Without being able to abuse the invincibility window regarding the animations, I don't think anybody would make it to the end of the average Absolute mission. Really highlights how ass the cHP system is when the player can't regain as quickly as they lose it under normal fighting circumstances.
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>>558921082
>Do you think these devs are aware that, at this point, the game would be literally unplayable if it wasn't for the execution system?
That would imply either of the two:
>devs play their game and know it's a mess
or
>they are told by their commmunity managers or whoever about the dumpsterfire that is raging now
In both cases the response should've been immediate and by Tuesday at the latest the hotfix should arrive. Instead the man himself Grigorenko spoke to the plebs and announced 2 days ago it will take a week. Not that this will fix anything, mind you. It'll break something else when it's released. As usual.
Regardless, I'm surprised they haven't been fired yet.
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>>558912169
Basado.
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>>558912169
Hi wallbro. Ive got a couple of new dudes. First is a Carcharadons bulwark.
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>some Xbox dickhead is taking for fucking ever at the armoury, probably afk
>leave and try to start a game on Inferno
>makes me rejoin his lobby before I can get to the Thunderhawk and forces me into a load screen that ends in an error
I hate these fucking superfluous hub areas that games seemingly just NEED to have nowadays when everything could be achieved by menus.
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>>558912169
Angels Encarmine Sanguinary Guard.
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>>558912169
Raven Guard sniper. Really wish the faggots at Saber would take 15 minutes to edit the champion chest to fit on phobos armor.
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>>558910501
Henry Cavill was a fat nerd playing WoW and painting his High Elf and Space Marine army
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>>558912712
although im an iron hand anon i can appreciate how cool they are. Hope your painting is going well? I just finished another plague marine tonight.
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>>558917356
Now that they've released the Techmarine and are getting bombed like their comrades in Ukraine watch them double down and move on to SM3.
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>>558922661
>another plague marine tonight.
post models. nta, i assembled my death guard KT starter team, had a good look all the the details, then put them in a box and never opened it again
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>>558922661
Nice to see you're getting more models done Brother. I'm currently doing finishing touches on the Dreadnought for the weaponry and at the same time I'm cutting out the plastic from Sanctic Conclave set. I was thinking about getting a conversion set or buying a HH Saturnine Dreadnought to give GM Dreadknight a better look.
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>>558922106
>>558922265
>>558922572
Received.
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>>558922650
Yeah he nearly missed his audition for Man of Steel because of a wow raid.
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>>558923289
nice! i saw a cool grey knight conversion on youtube the other day of a dread.

>>558922840
not the one i just finished but heres plague marine champion i finished recently, taken on my shitty phone camera so quality of the pic is questionable.
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>>558910501
Henry proved skeptics wrong

The fact that he could assemble his own PC live without any manuals is proof enough that at one point in his life he was one of us

He's a Bongoloid kid at one point, having 2nd/3rd edition Warhammer 40k was as common as having Hornby train toys and boomer Legos
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>>558924278
correction this is just a normal plague marine, not a plague marine champion. selected the wrong pic kek.
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>>558924349
i remember watching a video where he said when he was doing the witcher there was a lamp that looked like a blackstone fortress and none of the other actors knew wtf he was talking about. He is definitely a legit 40k nerd.
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>>558924278
mirin'
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Why the FUCK do krak grenades still stick to minoris?
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>>558924278
>i saw a cool grey knight conversion on youtube the other day of a dread.
I was thinking of something of that sort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9H5DyHNsIk or just grab some dedicated conversion kits. I'm still on the fence but at least I nailed it down to one of the two.
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>>558855996
No, it is YOU who has no idea what you're talking about, stalker child. Enjoy prison.
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>haven't played since launch
>decide to try it out again
>vatnik malware crashes at the end of my first operation

ahhh now I remember why I stopped playing
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>>558924795
Because the game director has final say on everything related to SM2 and hes a retard.
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>>558910501
Im all for shitting on actors using fake narratives to sell movies/shows/ect but he is genuinely, a loser nerd. He knows too many references and warhammer content to not be, and he splurges them out in the most awkward situations when he shouldn't. He's also a talentless hack who just so happens to be handsome which is the only requirement to act.
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>>558862098
>>558888816
Warpstone Glow looks quite nice too.
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>>558924795
Yes
At this point kraks are more efficient at suicides than killing anything of note
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Whats the minmax loser build for tech and please don't tell me its equipment spam
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You get lost on your way to Chemos, boeh?
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>>558924926
awesome work anon! And yeh thats the video i saw lol.

Lets hope your refresh in 11th gives you something nearly as good as that, though i do fear for your wallet when the refresh comes.
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>>558890865
I don't know why people are calling Tech Marine bad when he can instantly nuke any extremis, including Biovores. He's not bad at all.
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You know that nook under the collapsed stairway at the very end of inferno? i always assumed people are checking it because they saw someone else do that before

but today my fucking bot ran there.

am i going insane or is it possible that someone joined and my game failed to register it?
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It's been a blessing in disguise only just starting to play co-op after having the game for nearly a year because I've been able to level up all the classes I actually enjoy playing alongside techniggers on any difficulty.
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>>558926453
no
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Had a dream I got 53 xp for completing an absolute operation.
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Buffed marksman carbine makes setting up zone of impact hilariously easy. Also they buffed the heroic chainsword it feels pretty good desu.
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>>558925958
the sniper barrel perk is pretty good.
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>>558864570
>t. never played above ruthless
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It's all these dogshit, unpriesteged level 10 TMs in my hard stratagems. It's unplayable.
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>My weekly stratagems reset
Welp that was easy extra blue jew coin
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>3 armor + 40% HP
>Dead to a single jump attack from a bio
There is something fucky with the Hard this week.
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>>558912712
Gay Knights.
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Butcher's gift is impossible because you are reliant on your team but my team are all playstation players (without crossplay, I can't find any games).
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how long does it take to release a patch that decreases team perk costs from 500 to 50
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>>558927193
I did it at level 8, 0 prestige, but I suppose I wouldn't expect any random low level techmarine to do that.
Some 0 prestige level 10 vanguard without even a team perk joined my absolute mission and I wondered what the fuck he was doing there when he was constantly eating shit.
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>>558925686
sniperturret with 50% less ammo use and ignoring anything thats not majoris+
>neuro shows up
>Q
>aaaand its dead
its hilariously overpowered. also just evaporates extremis.
otherwise you can go melee or tanky
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opinion on the Heroic Power Sword?
bigger and better Power Rake sounds amazing
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>>558930927
Its so hard to use the sniper over the normal bolter. Its just so useful to be able to mark an area and have every small/medium evaporate. Clearly need to just get good more.
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>>558932143
It's fine. I only use it on Assault, because using a Balanced weapon on Bulwark feels like ass. Bulwark does so much damage from Intimidating Aura and the shock parry perks, that fumbling Balanced's parry window is not something I want to risk for the Xenophase's mediocre extra rake damage.
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>>558930927
>>neuro shows up
>>Q
>>aaaand its dead
Pretty much.
>>558932696
>Clearly need to just get good more
Yeah you should be able to handle minoris hordes just fine without crutching on the servo gun. The real game-ending threats are terminus, extremis and large groups of majoris, which the sniper is far too good at putting down to pass up in favour of decent horde clear.
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are there any volkite pistol users here? how the fuck do i build this shit?
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>>558935712
Its pretty simple what you do is pick HBP instead
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Techmarine chaos executions are some of my favorite.
Still not good enough to make me want to do chaos operations.
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>>558935681
They're going to nerf the sniper Servo-gun
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>>558937324
pls no, what the point of sniper servo-gun if it not delete Neurothropes and Zoanthrope?
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>>558937727
Saber does not like it when players trivialize Terminus enemies
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>>558937990
Why do they care Terminus enemies more than players? Do they think they are? A game master?
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Do we have a chart for which Tech Marine prestige perks are good?
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Steal his fit.
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This map is what Siege should have been, defending key points not running around in circles like an idiot as enemies chase you
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>>558912169
Have a Marines Malevolent tactical for you.
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>Decapitation, Absolute, totally normal run
>After getting 90% of the way through, get kicked, wasting 20 minutes of your life
>This takes you back to lobby, rather than just letting you continue solo
Every day I am reminded why I prefer HD2 over this dogshit game
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>>558938164
Invincibility while activating, headshot damage, melee damage, whatever you want as the last one
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>>558941047
thanks
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I somehow managed to carry two unprestiged chucklefuck newkids through the hard stratagem.
Yes, one of them was even a tactical who killed me with the AOE explosion signature perk.
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>>558912169
I don't suppose there's a Classic Marine on the wall? >>558881842
Also, 69, nice.
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What the fuck did they do to the spawn rates? I'm fighting off 20 fucking warriors at a time running Lethal solo
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>>558938792
I kinda already have lmao
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>>558942786
They wanted to make sure that anyone trying to play techmarine solo would have as bad of a time as possible
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I booted up a public game as Techmarine in Absolute in Decapitation.
I played solo until the elevator room where I had to run in circles because of a carnifex spawn.
Not a single person joined up, what the fuck is going with the match making?
Techmarine feels like he has the damage potential of the Assault but absolutely none of the mobility or survivability. Double axe explosion does shittons of damage.
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>>558944615
Everyone is playing Techmarine so the matchmaking doesn't work.

If you pick another class you'll get lobbies.
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>>558944615
I saw my precision mode servo bolter knock off half of a neuro's health bar in like five shots. This dude is a fucking nuke against large targets.
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>>558944932
I killed three floating brainy boys literally under a second. Was pretty mental.
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>>558944932
Weird how the class who probably should have the most amount of armor-based perks has absolutely none of it or any damage mitigation unless he's near an active sentry.
I'm glad they at least changed one of the worthless prestige perks into full invuln during sentry activation.
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>>558944919
Even I sometimes load into an active game, be forced to select a class that isn't Techmarine, and then leave if I don't feel like playing one of my maxed out classes.
That didn't even happen here, NOBODY joined to leave again.
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>>558937990
Saber doesn't like it when the players are strong period. Just look at the pathetic state of bolters until this latest update.
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I am so tired of testing this class, everything feels like shit. The new fencing heroic knife is probably the way to go for techmarine buty its horde clear is terrible. Omni axe is a lot like knife but charging its best move takes a little longer but it also has fucking massive AOE and hits twice. Might try more testing with the fencing omni axe tomorrow idk. Im fucking burnt out.
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So one good thing has come out of the voice pack. Every single fucking Space Wolf I encounter is complete deadweight and they ALL have the voice pack and some even use the stupid dog helm.

I am yet to encounter a BT using theirs and only one Blood Angel and that guy was decent. I am talking at least a dozens wolves so far. To the point I am auto leaving/kicking if I see one. I normally never kick anyone, in any game I play and can count on one hand the times I have in the last 10 years.

Also when the space wolf assault marine uses his backpack he howls...
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This game is really gay. I just wanted to kick ass and feel good doing it, not this constant cock and ball torture and devs huffing their own farts about balance.
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>>558946891
Im having fun. Any of the three gun types work, just take the select area instead of the other two final perks. Sniper + Area + Ignore smalls is pretty OP for bosses.

Best weapon is the Relic Omni, all top row, use the charging attack to get through hordes while gun striking smalls as you go for infinite armor then either run into an enemy for single target damage or press again for a good AOE + Lighting on ground. If you're in melee range, just spam the charging attack anyway, its good damage.
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>>558947635
>Im having fun
i dont care
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>>558947891
Sounds like a you issue, maybe go touch some grass.
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>>558947891
I'm having a blast. Have you tried having a blast
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>>558946891
doesn't help that you basically have to quit to menu every game because server bullshit
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>>558947635
I've just been rocking the bottom tree for weapon talents. I'm not too big on the charge right now because I can't figure it out entirely because I can't get into a lot of games without just running solo with bots. Sometimes I bounce off an enemy during the charge and I can't tell if the charge has a fixed duration or if I always need to press the attack button again to do the lunging stab.
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>>558890889
have you considered that you might be a girl? cishet men don't usually spend time thinking about what would work on them if they were a girl into dudes
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>>558949018
>Sometimes I bounce off an enemy during the charge and I can't tell if the charge has a fixed duration or if I always need to press the attack button again to do the lunging stab.
If you bounce, you started it too close. But that also doesn't matter, you can just spam the charge up close and chain-stun + kill that enemy really quickly.

The single target attack Omnissian Rush happens if you just hold M2 while charging into an enemy. You'll automatically do a 1/2/3 stab attack depending on distance (you can see your blade flash to tell how many charges you have).

Omnissian Strike is what happens when you let go of the charge, then tap M2, you'll do a big lunge, which does good AoE damage and if you have the final perk on the top row leaves down a lightning pool.

If you're fighting a boss for example you can either just hold M2 point blank to deal damage, or if you're at a distance hold M2 and don't let go to get off three strikes. If you only get one flash on your Omni then you're probably better off doing Omnissian Strike by letting go and pressing M2 again so you get the AOE + Lightning damage.
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I want to send the devs a nice little pipe bomb
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>>558949103
I'm straight so I would have to be a girl to find any sort of romantic feeling out of it. I just found the gap adorable. Not a trannid.
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Epic.
Also >Buffed enemies modifier
Who designed these retarded modifiers?
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>>558949336
Wish there was a fucking training room
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Lots of small groups spawning on top of me lately, wish I had clipping on.
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>Start public weekly stratagem
>No one joins for the entire duration of the mission
>Not even joining, then leaving once their preferred class was taken
So everyone is just playing private lobbies until they're prestige 4 level 25? Great way to add a new class, Saber.
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>>558951218
Sometimes the matchmaking is absolutely broken and noone can join you, nor can you, until you return to the main menu.
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>drop the meme techmarine axe for argent edge knife
>now the class can actually reliably do absolute because that dagger is the most bullshit busted melee weapon they ever fucking made
lmao, they are gonna nerf this knife so much
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How are you having trouble on absolute with the omni axe
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>>558951829
the omni axe is fucking garbage
slow as shit, fencing but with balance at best parry frame, shit perks
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>>558952017
NTA but you're using it wrong. Its extremely strong.
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switching to fencing made it better
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>i was forced to solo my last 5 whole operation to level up techmarine
at this point i better off playing another game for a couple of weeks when the matchmaking exist again
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I just bought this game on sale.
Is there a short time investment mode or is everything like 30+_ minutes?
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>>558953549
If you just want to grind up XP then running Siege on Hard is usually quick. Otherwise Inferno and Decapitation are the shortest missions when you run through them.
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>>558952827
to clarify, i was the casual anon that didn't know balance vs fencing
game feels much better to play
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>>558952017
You might be retarded
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>>558795020
>running the new op on absolute
>techmarine player just dips on that last arena before the cathedral section

what explains this ? he was obviously grinding the techmarine and no, it wasn't the bug that blocks you from the final part
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>>558954498
The game has been crashing for some people.
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>Reliquiary
>tech+tactical
>NEED 5 (FIVE) SEAL PUZZLE LOOP TO KILL THE FUCKING DRAGON
WTF
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>>558955037
The helldrake does not get targeted by the servo gun for some reasons
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Reddit has spoken
techchud is the worst class in the game
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>Didn't do Vortex at launch because its Chaos
>Get slapped into a quickmatch of it near the end apparently since we go right into the boss fight
>The fight is absolute AIDs and not fun at all
Am I surprised, no, but its still amazing how bad this mission is
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>>558955525
i stan a chud
i'm having
F U N
U
N
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>>558955525
S: Bulwark/Vanguard
A: Tact
B: Tech
F: The rest
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>>558955691
>vanguard
>s tier
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>>558955681
breddy gud
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>>558937254
Whoever made that obviously hates Enlightened Tzaangors just as much as we do.
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>>558955525
I've started to goddamn despise clickbait youtubers who just throw out feelsy crap and call it a day but then they get all the cool shit to tell us about because they've turned into the devs' special boys.
Meanwhile, any youtuber or frankly anyone putting in the work to test shit and give us some semblence of good numbers gets buried under endless tier lists or le epic thing that's broken.
I'm not going to say that SM2's balance is great or anything, but I would honestly say that every class is good if you're not a goddamn moron and know what you're able to do for the team. The only S-tier guy is Tactical but even he filters folks because he's got no get out of jail free cards. Hell, me and my buds just did the weekly hard strat with Tac, Sniper, and Tech and it was not only some of the most fun I've had in this game so far but it was actually good solely due to deleting every problem that comes up.
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>>558955691
garbage list
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>>558955525
Right, I'm about to take the crowd that says
>I literally never fight chaos and never do hard stratagems
seriously
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>>558955716
Infinite HP is always S tier.

>>558956054
Garbage sniper/heavy player.
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Unless it's vortex it's easiest to solo any operation on absolute as sniper.
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>>558956489
Sniper bot doing what bots do best, I see.
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Relic Fencing Omnissiah Axe deals so much fucking damage with the explosion. I do it twice and a warrior is already in incap.
The only issue is how little you move forward for the running attack and how literally any every swing takes too long to come out but I guess that's how its balanced.
I haven't even messed with the top row of weapon perks.
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>>558956489
The frisbee rider head stomp is my favorite neutral execution
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>>558956661
Do you use the 2x explosion?
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brothers my helmet is full of orange soda
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>>558955926
Every execution of the EZ feels that way. Like the animation team hates what the gameplay team made.
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>>558956942
Sometimes I get the double explosion off but literally just
swing > explosion > parry > servo gunstrike > swing > explosion will do the trick
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>>558955691
>Modern Assault
>F
If it wasn't for the existence of Zoanthropes and the Neurothrope, the class would genuinely have zero weaknesses at this point.
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>>558956184
The tier list is from a Youtuber who solos content repeatedly on Absolute, it's actually very rare for him to play in lobbies with others for his videos. That tier list is for both factions and all enemies.
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>>558956210
wrong, better classes don't need extra hp because they trivialize encounters
assault and heavy both delete most enemies before they even can pose a threat
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>>558957328
I feel like Techmarine's big weakness is honestly the same flaw as Tactical has in that if there's a column of Devourers firing on you then there's nothing you can really do but spam roll and find hard cover.
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>>558957582
Yep, and with the current fucked spawns, this is all Tyranid Absolute diff. The amount of ranged Warriors right now is beyond retarded.
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>>558956942
Staring at this image reminded me I just leveled my axe with the heroic and didn't max out the grey, thanks for reminding me of the one weapon perk point I wasn't using.
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>>558939238
Received.
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Since I run Absolute for EXP farming and basically gain like 4-5 levels a run then immediately prestige I actually haven't experienced having the full bottom row perks' gameplay style at all yet.
I ran plasma servo-gun once but not with the signature perk that ignites enemies on fire too.
Anyone else think that Techmarine's 2nd team perk is going to get changed? It's so fucking boring.
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>>558957582
>our devourers will blot out the sun
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>>558958580
I can't believe this game doesn't have a fucking mob ratio system, both in terms of spawns and what aggroes you. Like even before the update broke spawns, you'd end up in situations where more ranged enemies spawned than melee.
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>>558958580
At least in Techmarine's case he can at least turn on the servo gun and put like two of them in incap.
Anytime you get a full squad of like 4 warriors waiting around with devourers is just a bad time as soon as one starts firing and you're hurrying to deal with the others.
>>558958673
>you'd end up in situations where more ranged enemies spawned than melee.
>laughs in game's release state when Chaos only had Rubricae as majoris enemies
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>>558958724
>>laughs in game's release state when Chaos only had Rubricae as majoris enemies
The spawns rates weren't even close to what the game is doing now, let alone in that period where Substantial had a nutty amount of spawns a year ago.
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>>558958580
Gee, I wonder what Dmitry would think of this clip!
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>>558958792
>gunstrike and free movement is too strong
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>>558958790
I feel like pure rubrics may have been better than chaos spawn.
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Minor datamine leak - Iron Hands Successor Chapters portraits
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>>558958792
>blyat too easy! ve need at least 6 terminus
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>>558959132
It's been really convenient for the sons of medusa boys that their chapter icon looks almost identical to a different chapter icon already in-game.
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Has anyone tested precision servogun + 2nd signature ability? Can it basically just deal with a neurothrope?
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>>558959470

>>558935681
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>>558959470
Probably.
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>>558959132
>no Knights of Byzantium
But why? They got the coolest color!
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>>558881842
>>558942640
looks fun, you should try posting full screenshot like other anons
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>>558959561
Nice.
The only thing that makes a neurothrope remotely difficult is the wave of majoris enemies covering it from getting dogpiled like this.
Wonder how much this combo does to a stunned carnifex
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>>558959634
Well, that's Saber for you. Anyways, that and pic related are all that was datamined up until now
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>>558959613
How much of that was boosted by the auspex? I know that's a bot, but it had to contribute somewhat to that onslaught.
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>>558959674
About 30% health.
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>>558959759
Are you the one who leaked the techmarine before?
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>>558959848
There is no auspex, that's just what the area of fire looks like.
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>>558959861
Wonder if plasma will do a better job.
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>>558958580
>>558958792
>not enough spore mines, did we nerf them or something?
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>>558959759
>Iron Hands champ
>Tactical
Wonder if this is "still" a placeholder
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>>558959950
Plasma with burning affect does a surprisingly good job at eating HP away.
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>>558959132
Why only 4 chapters like Salamanders? They could at least add Iron Fist and Knights of Byzantium.
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>>558959940
Yep.
>>558960028
If it is then they really went all the way, because down to the code lines that screams Tactical. His engine callsign is "soldier". Very likely it will be a Tactial while the only red herring there are Lamenters. They are very out of place.
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>>558959132
>>558959759
>no Steel Confessors
>No Knights of Byzantium
I mean.. they are just recolors so why not add them as well and pad out the pack. You might need to add emblem for both but it's a minute of work I think.
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>>558960178
Got any more leaks on Lamamter or anything else in the datamine?

I'm sure 10 of the Iron Hands would be super-pissed if the IH champion actually ended up for tactical and not techmarine.
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>>558960178
Guess it could end up like the Blood Angel/Raven Guard champ where its pieces can just be interchangeable with the Techmarine and MAYBE include a special mechadendrite.
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>>558960323
I meant dozens of the Iron Hands fans.
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>>558960323
Those two lines are the only mention of Lamenters. I've looked. I'll give it another shot, but as it stands that's all there is.
>>558960354
>pieces can just be interchangeable
That's the prevailing theory yeah. I wouldn't put it past Saber to go with Tactical IH skin. They already proved their competence with Salamanders way back. We'll just have to wait and see.
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>>558960565
>dozens
Indeed
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>>558957391
Nope.
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The accolade currency symbol looks like the pedophile triangle
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>>558959950
Couldn't find any buff equipment.
Most of the white bar is from the plasma gun, all the rest of the missing health not counted in the white bar is from the tarantula.
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New mission is great (I haven't experienced the bug), even if there is Chaos. Always great to fight alongside Cadians and lemons and being part of a war.
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>>558961523
I haven't run it in the fear of having it bug out and wasting the rare opportunity for me to play the techmarine.
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>Tech Marine can't use the Black Templar champion helmet
What possible fucking reason could there be for this?
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>>558962298
Part of the sweeping generalized comment they made about how they focused on getting the techmarine playable while his customization is going to be made more lenient later.
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>>558959470
With the right perks Techs precision servogun can 100 to 0 a neuro. Its pretty great, definitely going to be nerfed into the ground because no fun allowed.
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>>558959950
Plasma is pretty great, while melting a neuro in one volley seems awesome (and it is) its way more useful to have plasma that can melt everything more consistently. Plus the AoE burst gunstrikes are better, especially if you're using the omni axe and charging through minoris while popping off gunstrikes.

Also it looks/sounds cooler.
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>>558962448
That makes sense for the body pieces but I cannot imagine what prevents every helmet from being available for him.
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What do I take for the 4th?
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>>558965181
Stim boost because there's nothing better to take and HP is generally useful to keep up.
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>>558965181
Defensive Stance. Ranged damage is what minces you on Absolute.
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>>558965023
Probably the fact they can't even get one programmer to add few lines of code. From what I was able to find Saber Interactive on their own are juggling about 38 projects in total now. These are just a few that are definitely in active development:

>Jurassic Park: Survival
>Painkiller reboot.
>Turok: Origins
>some untitled Avatar TLA game.
>Space Marine 3
>Hellraiser
>Road Kings (some racing game)
>John Wick
>There's also their flopping Toxic Commando (fewer pre-orders than expected apparently) which is also being developed and scheduled to release in March.

Ridiculous how much they are trying to chew.
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>switch to plasma pistol because melee still has shit CHP regen
>doesn't register my mouse hold and doesn't charge the shot
great game and update saber
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>>558965473
>Ranged damage is what minces you on Absolute.
This is true for now with spawns being fucked. But Telorian's turrets can take some heat off of him. That being said, generally speaking out of those perks Stim boost is just more practical.
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I sure love not being able to play the game due to shitty matchmaking. I'm getting really close to joining their shit fucking dicksword server just so I can call their CMs niggers.
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>>558965891
I went with reduced ranged due to the new stim making the other choice weaker.
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>>558966812
40% bonus wont get you from half health to full. Its still going to take 2 stims to get out of downed state. I am going to swap out of it on the other characters too
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Wait, since when is that REDACTED stuff supposed to be a champion pack? I was sure it was a chapter pack
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At 18:00 GMT I am going to post a code, and wait until 19:00 GMT for one person to join.
We are going to play ruthless or lethal inferno twice. I am going to be the techmarine first, then I am going to give you host and switch to another class. I am okay with playing with people from other regions, but fyi I'm central eu.
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>>558968587
I would but that is the worst connection possible for me.

T. South Coast NSW, Australia.
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>>558890489
Don't worry, SM3 will be made entirely in AI - story, assets, coding, etc.
>If we could fix the game not launching, we would have done it. But we do not have the knowledge. We used to, but we abandoned it. It's all AI now.
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>>558969242
we could play it safe and do ruthless. last time I played with a brother from straya we got terminators teleporting around and instadeaths before enemies even spawned in. it was fun in it's own way.
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>>558943801
You should switch out your shoulderpads, bonding studs and company colors on the left one and a rimless one with the chapter icon on the right - it would look better.
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>>558969389
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>>558968587
If I don't forget then I'm going to join on time
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>When you carry through an entire hard stratagem only to die on the last 5% because you were solo'ing the tyrant
Also I just don't think damage should go past your last shield, doesn't matter if its 1m damage, if you have 3 bars you should lose 3 bars but no HP damage. It feels like garbage to go through all your armor and 50% of your HP in one shot.
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>>558970486
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why can't my techmarine have a fucking hand
>we want to focus on the gameplay before adding cosmetics
bullshit you already have a gravis armor model
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>>558970801
I bet when they add cosmetics it'll just be the lost hand from the other classes
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>>558971494
cute and adorable
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>>558968587
I might join
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>>558971931
cool. we will split in teams of two if we have enough participants to make sure everyone gets to be a techmarine as many times as possible
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The Thousand Sons Sorcerers must piss themselves laughing watching the lone cultist they teleported in front of a Space Marine get instantly vaporised before he can even figure out where he is.
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Both the bolt rifle and the occulus bolt rifle feels kinda shitty on TM. Maybe I need that consecutive headshot perk.
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>>558965762
Jesus, just how many crews are in Saber?
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>>558973774
russia is a big country.
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>>558969981
don't have the prestige studs and in saber's infinite wisdom they locked the accolade pauldrons to one shoulder. I'm making do with what I've got
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>>558973471
>consecutive headshot perk
Vanguard and Heavy should have those perks too, i meant wtf was Saber thinking add useless perk like honed precision, like who unironically uses that?
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The Biovore will automatically unbunker when a player gets within melee range.

The Biovore will stop firing spore mines upon a set global limit.

Reduced the rising speed of the beam attack by Zoanthropes and the Neurothrope by 50%.

Increase the spread of the Devourer so it's significantly less accurate over range.

The Warrior with Barbed Strangler will stop firing brambles upon a set global limit, and won't resume firing more for 10 seconds after the last one was destroyed.

Ranged enemies backpedalling away from the player has been significantly reduced in its frequency.

All ranged Majoris and Extremis enemies will resort to melee exclusively when the player gets close.

Stagger in which the player is smacked against a wall has been reduced in its time to match regular stagger.

Melee-based enemies will now sequentially chain their attacks in a manner that is always reactable. No more chained unblockables by multiple enemies where the second hit is impossible to evade.

Powerful long ranged attacks such as from the Venom Cannon or Cultist Sniper cannot be repeatedly stacked upon the player back to back, and will never target a player using an objective or while mid-execution.

Made the Carnifex's spin attacks more distinct between the fast and slow variants.

Wake up.
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>>558973471
I can't stand using anything other than the HBR on him because of his atrocious ammo economy. Despite that, I still think he's quite good. Xenophase Blade is amazing on him after getting furious gun strike.
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Were tyranid warriors significantly smaller before primaris or were they always that huge?
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>>558975039
everything used to be smaller before primaris.
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>>558975148
lol
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>>558975251
>average saber dev
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>>558974983
fake and gay
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>>558974983
If you put it up on their forums you might get an upvote, a few maybe. Maybe enough to hit 1 mil goodboy points. Only to be politely told by some CM to fuck off since it's not their "vision" for SM2.
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>>558974983
>Powerful long ranged attacks such as from the Venom Cannon or Cultist Sniper cannot be repeatedly stacked upon the player back to back, and will never target a player using an objective or while mid-execution.

This is the worst one, this would be fixed if those vatnik trenchfodder retards played their game.
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>15K ranged damage with Tech kun
woooooo
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Nothing like no-nonsense variable descriptions. Communications between the devs is of the highest quality.
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>>558976284
Considering how they manage to break shit randomly every patch and how long it takes to implement basic shit I can only imagine they've accrued so much technical debt that it's a wonder they can do anything at all. I bet they literally could not implement basic QoL features like class and weapon perks being tied to individual loadouts without the game falling apart.
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>>558976767
YEBAT NAHUI CYKA WHY ARE YOU NO WORKING ON GAEM
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>>558976767
One more thing here. Whatever the imperfect dodge is...
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What is it with all these plebs joining my games? How many of these cunts are gonna join up, fuck off to the other side of the map, trigger a reinforcement call and NOT STOP IT???
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>>558976918
I'm gonna guess a dodge that doesn't trigger a gunstrike
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>>558976918
Perfect dodges are the ones that give you a gunstrike, and imperfect dodges are everything else
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>>558959637
Okay.
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>doing normal weekly
>we're doing good
>activate objective
>you have been kicked
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Just b0ughterd
what am in in for
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>>558981686
cock and ball matchmaking torture
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>>558981774
What matchmaking? Even when not using techmarine nobody joined my daily normal vortex stratagem. Shit is fucked if you disable crossplay.
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spent the last 30 minutes trying to get a game in my Techmarine
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>>558981686
A lengthy grind to get geared up and wondering why everything hits like a wet noodle because the game's balanced around relic and heroic tier weaponry with p4l25 characters.
Alternatively, you're in for the peak male fantasy and hours of rage and crunching bugs and heretics.
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>>558981686
Fun campaign.
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>>558980862
Received.
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>HIT DEM BASTARD
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>>558976284
Fencing is a crutch.
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>>558912169
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>>558990640
Thanks for adding my classic marine to the wall brother.
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>>558988294
*gets downed by a dozen gaunts*
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>>558965181
Stimm boost because who the fuck knows what the conditions for "surrounded" are
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>>558992984
Be fucking near you, it's not complicated.
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Is it worth it to save accolades for relic weapons (xenophase blade, etc.) as a newfag or should I just keep buying cool helmets and shit?
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>>558965181
Stance
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Another bug I've noticed is that executions are no longer staggering enemies around you on the finish.
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>>558993053
Yes but how near? 5 meters? 10 meters? Inside you?
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>>558993340
Relic weapons are usable even if you've never touched the weapon at all, but I ended up bouncing between the two sets
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>>558993497
Roughly 10 meters, it's comically generous so it's a perpetual 20% reduced damage from ranged attacks. It's about the same radius as Techmarine's ability charge boost when next to a sentry.
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>>558993560
Is there a best "first" heroic? I'm thinking of going for the bolt pistol since I can put that on all classes.
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>>558993815
You want to be taking Heroics for weapons you haven't already levelled first. The Bolt Pistol is the easiest weapon to level up of the bunch next to the Chainsword.
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>>558993340
None of them are good except the sniper. I guess xenophase is okay now after its buff and the new assault perk.
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>>558993905
I see.
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>>558993815
Lot of people like the HBP because gunstrikes and being able to end reinforcement calls, but it depends heavily on what classes you play. No point in grabbing the Heavy Bolter/Plasma if you never play Heavy for example
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>>558993340
The Power Fist is really nice, all of them lean into a type of gameplay style (so gun strikes in the case of the Power Fist) so bear that in mind.
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>>558993815
Heroic weapons that are straight up better than relic ones:
- heavy plasma
- instigator
- sniper bolt rifle
- the new fencing knife

Thunderhammer feels as good as block relic one, but maybe it's just fun to play fencing assault.
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Ok tried out the techmarine, the shit with the gunstrikes is so broken, the sentry and the tarantula turrets DPS is nice against extremis/terminus.
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>>558965181
Ditch your 2 seconds of invuln when activating a sentry and pick both stimm boost and defensive stance.
Headshot bonus is needed, not only to kill things faster but for better ammo economy something the tech marine isn't great at.
More ranged damage reduction is needed, from the top of my head other than your halberd charge you don't get any.
More restore on stims is almost always a must pick on any class.
The last slot is for furious melee gunstrike, you get a parry, attack, charge your shit, gunstrike while it's charging and boom.
Indomitable is too situational, in a lot of games you wont have sentries where you want them and also it only protects you while you are activating the turret and not during the nearly 2 seconds where you have to press E to activate the turret itself.
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>>558995289
>Ditch your 2 seconds of invuln when activating a sentry
lol, lmao
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>>558995428
Yes, ditch the prestige perk that is completely reliant on RNG
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>>558995505
you literally don't know what the fuck you talk about if you consider ditching that perk on techmarine
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>>558995289
>Ditch your 2 seconds of invuln when activating a sentry
Absolutely insane suggestion when this perk is the sole reason you can even activate sentries on higher difficulties.
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>>558995505
>ditch the only thing that will save you from getting sniped or raped by a lictor as you set up the turret
you are retarded
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>>558995289
>2 seconds
the activation animation is so long at ruthless already it can 100 to 0 you
Lethal+ you absolutely cannot use the turret without first wiping the floor
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>>558958580
This looks so unfun. Too many high tier enemies, you just rolling like a faggot hoping for a break.
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>>558995579
>>558996076
>>558996329
Just because you get 2 seconds of invuln after not having any while pressing E doesn't mean you are immune to bad luck of having several attacks (ranged or not) coming right at you and hitting you right the moment your invuln state is over, especially in absolute now that they've ramped up the spawns.
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>>558996595
It's a ton of barbed stranglers which honestly works in favor of the Techmarine up close since your axe explosion will wipe those out while dealing fucktons of damage to warriors all around you.
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>>558996724
So true oomfie. Better to not have any invuln at all and get one shot while you can't move
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>>558993974
Its spine is broken, but the hivemind keeps ordering everything in the area to walk somewhere.
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>>558996724
My absolute runs with the techmarine have been made a lot easier getting a guaranteed turret support with the prestige benefit.
Being able to use a turret at all is like a third of the appeal of playing the class.
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>>558995505
>Reliant on RNG
>Tarantulas are on fixed positions in the map.
>You can do stupid shit with the Iframes such as seeing a bunch of ranged bullshit from Zoan/Neurothropes and waiting to activate the turret until then to cheese the dodge.
>On the class with as much survivability as Tac.
To be honest drop the ranged damage reduction because every good Tech I've seen kills shit before they even take damage and your main source of defense is cheesing Iframes that your servo sets up. To say nothing of the sniper servo just being able to delete problems outright.
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Synaptic backlash should deal damage to the brambly seed things in rage.
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>>558997147
>Being able to use a turret at all is like a third of the appeal of playing the class.
Yes, but both the class and the perk are badly designed.
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>>558997462
No, you're just bad
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>>558997546
I have no issue without having to crutch on the perk but whatever.
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>>558997462
Ideally the invuln on activation should just be inherent instead of needing a prestige perk slot.
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>>558996749
>Uh ackshually this cbt is ok because um uh because....!
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>>558998205
If they were all devourers then it would be a different story.
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A battle-barge has arrived Brothers. Migrate:

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>>558998948
>>558998948
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>>558995579
How is techy in pvp? Servo gun sounds like it would be disgusting there.

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