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What is YOUR current level on the Techmarine?

>>558999448
IV 25

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>>558968587
>>558969242
>>558970486
>>558971931
CDN9F

>>558999448
Pres3 18

I am very casually doing this because I don't want to burn out in the span of a week.

>>558999448
I finished leveling Telorian the first day.
(yeah I no-lifed on that day sue me)

>>558999448
Prestige 1 Level 18

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>>558999602
and we're going in.

>>558999448
Prestige 4, level 25

>>559000025
Good luck Brothers!

Your SW/BA/BT speaks like Ultras during missions because Ultras are your spiritual lieges. Listen and learn.

>>558999448
close to hit prestige 4

>>558999448
3/1 and I can't be arsed playing more with bots, or worse, humans.

>>558999448
Level 4. I've been gaming with a couple pals and one of them is super into Techmarine so I've been levelling Sniper with them. Dragged 'em through the weekly hard strat yesterday with my maxed Tac buddy, the Techmarine friend, and myself on a P3L18 sniper and had a great time. Neurothropes and Extremis no longer existing anymore is a fantastic feeling and I'm an HBSR convert now. Can't be assed to play Techmarine otherwise though, the lack of voice shit is surprisingly off putting.

>>558999448
1, I've not played it because I'm still levelling up other classes.

>>558999448
I got him to like level 12 before I started hitting burnout and I'm going to wait a while before playing again

>>559001189
Also my wifi seems to be having a complete melty as of late, so I'm playing some single-player games for the time being.

>>558999448
P4 L25
I wanted to get this over with and continue playing other classes. I hoped for more honestly.

I'll probably take this even slower with the techmarine leveling honestly. Lord knows how long the next big patch is going to be delayed given this current patch's shitstorm of a reaction and the laundry list of shit they'll be needing to fix with voice lines, general game bugs, and cosmetics for the techmarine

>>558999448
>>558999448
P3 L12 or something. Was trying to get him to P4 today but lost all motivation when I wiped on lethal inferno while playing with the useless bots.

>>558999448
1

>>558999448
P1 L12

I'm waiting for the hotfix to continue

Hopefully by next week everyone is bored of the Techmarine and I can join Absolute Inferno/Ballistic Engine again

Unlike the other classes, the Techmarine is useless until he gets the sniper servogun which can take 1/4 to 1/2 of any Terminus health

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>>558999448
>playing nerdmarine

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I have failed more missions as techmarine than I have with every other class combined.

>>558995579
How is techmarine in pvp? The servo gun seems like it would be disgusting there.

>>559003091
>>559003384
Techmarine was fun for a day and once the novelty wears off you realize all the glaring issues.
Bad ammo economy and your best gun is basically the new heroic HBR
Your only team perk worth a shit is the turret one which brings us to the tarantulas.
Tarantulas placement doesn't always fit your needs, sometimes you get lucky sometimes you don't, especially when you don't play with bots and the other guys keep pushing you end up not even bothering setting turrets up.
The sniper servo which is 200% gonna get nerfed.
His only knockback immunity is only on inexorable salvo but the perk is shit especially compared to the other 2 while other classes have stagger/knockback immunity on stuff like parry/shield bash/rush
In the end the only redeeming qualities I find him funnily enough are the omnissian axe and how you can now incorporate gun strikes in the middle of your meleeing without getting a forced cutscene.
Then on top of class mechanics you add the lack of customization, the bugs, the lack of voice...
Rather disappointing if you think about it.

>>558999448
prestige 4 lvl 1, did 2 prestiges today. i absolutely love the prestige system it made the game so much better i dont get why all my friends quit because of it i prefer playing alone anyway i love never even having tested the burning perk or the only majoris perk because it would lose me time lololol

>>559003384
It has shit guns so your killing power is pathetic
No armour regen until later levels which means jackshit during leveling
No contested health regen outside of normal stuff
Almost all of its best perks are on the 3rd row, you only pick the Sniper servogun, the 2nd armour refill team perk and the -50% servo gun charge use

>>559004706
>>559003384
i have not failed once (lethal). i think he is pretty strong.

>>559005558
>the 2nd armour refill team perk
Having a perk tied to stimm usage feels like a waste when on higher difficulties they hardly spawn.

Fuck levelling the techmarine. He is too weak and is very vulnerable to bad luck and I hate playing with bots. Chances are he is just going to rot in the roster after levelling anyway because I don't like playing it.

Back to not playing the game.

>>559004706
I died once in an Absolute game because I got stunlocked by a zoan ball into a lictor leap.

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It took me 15 minutes to kill a carnifex.

>>559006549
At least you can get teammates on Absolute as a Techmarine

>>559006783
these were bots
no one joined

>>559006549
Were you just shooting at it instead of axing it and getting the risk-free gunstrikes against it? Every other class has to make that split-second decision to take a gunstrike on a carnifex swing because it can't stagger like a Helbrute but the Techmarine doesn't even need to fear the retaliatory 2nd swing after the 1st swing gets parried.

>>559006935
no i was running around the arena because there were 3458907345896734 venom cannon niggers that i cant kill because techmarine has 0 killing power and i ran out of ammo

What are the odds we will see 13.0 within next 3 months? I don't think it's possible with the way they've handled 12.0.

>>559007073
0

>>559007073
If you go off the roadmap, 13.0 is supposed to be here by the end of this month. No I do not believe this in the slightest

>>559007036
You gotta trust in the axe, man.
Relic Fencing Axe does so much damage with the explosion, you don't even need to swing the axe past the first light attack chain. It's basically a slower power sword but the damage is incredible.
>>559007073
The only litmus test for that is how quickly the devs acknowledge patch 12's problems. Fixing said problems will be its own separate announcement I figure.

>>559007036
Which arena?

>>559007036
Damage is the only thing the Techmarine has, anon.

>>559007469
wow yeah he can incap 2 majoris every 90 seconds
wow such a good class

They made the Techmarine mid because if it was OP the vatnik mindset will force them to ubernerf the class making it useless.

By making it mid they can buff the class and add/remove/change perks and prestige perks this way.

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>>559007073
My Brother in the Emperor, they clearly missed the mark with THEIR OWN DEADLINES (dammit). We'd be hearing about a PTS for the next patch by now considering BP dates. No way they are releasing anything anytime soon, maybe a hotfix because it was already announced they will release it.

>>559007550
Use the axe, holy shit.

>>559007621
It was a mistake releasing Techmarine so early after Christmas. I can guarantee they did maybe two weeks of work before the PTS even dropped.

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thanks for the games brothers

>>559007621
>because it was already announced
Discord I presume?

>>559007914
retard

>>559007621
If they missed deadlines then they're lying when they claim they put a "team" on SM2's DLC and post-launch.

What the ziggers meant is that instead of Ivan working all alone he gets Igor and if they're lucky also Vladimir working.

>>559007621
did they expand the battle barge?

>>559007550
If you don't know how to deal damage with a class that has perks for literally every single way to deal damage, the problem is you

>>559008735
No, that they admitted wouldn't be happening months prior.

>>559008812
retard

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>>559008058
Yep... because it's not like there are other forms of communicating out there right?
>>559007621
>>559008217
The most hilarious part of the clown show that ensued were the comments made by CMs. Especially the one pertaining to the quality of what they release, claiming it's fine if a product is shit if it's because they need to chase the deadlines. I kek'd hard ngl.

>>559007621
>New Terminus
100% chaos lol

>>559009403
Already leaked and datamined, it's a Chaos Terminator Sorcerer because fuck you.

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>>559009403
Didn't save the image but pretty sure this got datamined.

>>559009292
You don't have to sign your posts

>>559008735
Nope. Delayed indefinitely (no joke). In the end it'll probably be something that'll make us wonder why the fuck it took so long to get added in the first place.

>>559009572
>>559009620
thank god, more cancer we can easily avoid by simply ignoring the half of the game that has shitaos in it.

>>559009762
I never had a problem with Chaos.
I swear I get stunlocked far more frequently against Tyranids.

>>559009403
>>559009572
>chaos's one redeeming quality is having a consistently good and fun terminus encounter, unlike tyranids which have neurothropes
>aside from the charged plasma shot ability but that's rarely an actual issue
>we're likely getting something to rival the ranged terminator in bullshit level but tougher and more annoying
>latest chaos boss was the vortex beast btw

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>>559009620
Here you go. What was datamined.

>>559010203
I think Neuros are less annoying than a carnifex.
Yeah sometimes you have so many things between you and the neuro that closing the map makes you run off and then get smacked by the barrier if you're not paying attention but a carnifex that's far from you will, without any visual indicator or warning, will spine bunker you for shittons of damage AND stagger.
At least certain bolt weapons can absolutely fuck up a neuro's health, shaving a carnifex's HP takes a bit more concentrated effort.

They're going to nerf the sniper servogun
They're going to remove two Terminus spawns in Disruption where they appear near the drop pods, the SM2 Discord mocks Techmarines leveling up cheesing their heroic HBR's grenade launcher when a Terminus and/or massive wave shows up in there

>>559010575
The problem with the Neurothrope, and by extension the Zoanthropes, is that it's the worst sort of RNG encounter in this game. If you have a Tactical, Sniper or now Techmarine, fantastic, they die in a comical amount of time. But not only are they a boss wholly determined in difficulty by your team line-up, their difficulty also varies based on where they spawn, or the density of the horde that spawns with them. If they're WAAAAY in the back behind a wall, and start dropping wall-piercing beams or AOE bubble blasts after they land, that shit ends runs very consistently.

>>559010575
Yeah every terminus has some BS ranged attack that can frametrap you to death but like the helbrute's charged plasma it's rare that you can't dodge it
The neuro is unique just because it is either completely unbearable because of a combination of team comp and where it spawns, or a complete joke that just requires you to dodge occasionally while pressing M1 on its big forehead. It's extremely rare that it's an actually engaging and fun challenge, and you don't ever get to style on it with perfect dodges/parries

>>559011556
this is why a proper training arena similar to fighting games is necessary
so that players don't shit themselves whenever a terminus spawns in the map
im leveling up my techmarine in ruthless and i still get noobs who quit whenever a neurothrope spawns in inferno
it doesn't even need to be in the battle barge, they just need to add a terminal somewhere that spawns the player outside of the battle barge and in a sizeable training room where you can spawn every type of enemy and adjust their difficulty or just turn them into a punching bag
they don't even need to add backgrounds or shit, it can just be a generic 40k training arena or pure white block grids

>>558999448
Level 20 prestige 3. Either I got lucky yesterday or people are finally bouncing off Tech Marine because I was able to actually matchmake into people and not have to put up with bots.

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Old and new fighting side-by-side.

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Perhaps playing with bots isn't that bad.

>>558999448
prestige 1 level 1. I think I'm done

>>559018706
Congrats on unlocking bonding studs pad Brother!

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spotted a rare warpsmith in the wild.

>>559018904
Yup, that's pretty much what drove me to get that far. The new map is fun though

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Techmarine bros, this was meant to be our time..

>>559020146
Kinda retarded that the two Phobos classes are some of the tankiest characters in the game.

>>559020146
techniggers were always a mistake, we should've had an apothechadry

>>559020826
just paint your bulwark white.

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today i saw a world eater techmarine

>>559021242
Percussive maintenance.

>>559020826
Or a Chaplain. Or a Librarian (Yeah I know the game isn't fit for a class like him but a brother can dream)

>>559020826
I think an apothecary would be somewhat redundant with stimms, or it would just be a buff wizard and lead to players raging because he's buffing one player and not the other.

>>559020146
Anons that were on the PTS were saying pretty early on that the tech marine was underpowered.

>>559020826
Apothecary would probably be too hard to figure out how to have a combat medic with how their contested hp system works. I could see them choosing not to do Chaplain because it would be Leandros and that would be a big deal to have him helping Titus and friends out story-wise. I don't think they have any idea how to implement a Librarian.

mfw just realized i played unmuted for the entire evening. why did noone tell me

>>558999448
P0 L0
Not going to bother until all the other retards stop flooding every game with them

>>559004706
>The sniper servo which is 200% gonna get nerfed
It's so illogical to nerf when Tactical is in the busted-ass state he's in that I can 100% believe they'd do it. Goddamn just let him have his niche as an extremis deleter for fucks sake. God forbid a class can respond to a Soulreaper Terminator's aimbot autocannon bullshit with his own aimbot.
At least he rapes in melee after getting furious gunstrike. I've never had so much fun with the Power Sword before.

>>559021952
The entire health system of this game is both stupid and unthematic.

>Base health should naturally and slowly regen over time when that health doesn't take damage
>Armor should be representative of faith and the will to fight. It's restored by dealing damage, and has the contested recovery feature instead, so it's easier to restore armor that's just been lost

>>558999448
4+25

Its one of the strongest classes in the game. I think safely you can say the optimum team is Tact, Vanguard/Bulwark and Tech.

>>559024064
and in SM1 it was the coolest shit that they could have copied that and everyone would have loved it.

>>559007621
>PvP
Just let it die already jesus

>>559017649
>he forgot to block out the eyes on the Mechanicus skull
I'll be seeing you soon :)

>>559021952
>Apothecary would probably be too hard to figure out how to have a combat medic with how their contested hp system works
Applies contested HP, not real HP through his active ability on 1 single marine of choosing. Can probably only use it like 3-4 times across a whole mission because the regen is so slow.

Thats my tinfoil hat theory, based on the new shitty awful crappy fucking stim we have.

>>559020146
>Assault
>S
Absolutely not. While the new dodge build is fun its still buggy and it isn't even that strong, it just means he has the base level survivability he should have always had. Has no range so hes fucked against 20% of the roster.
>Heavy A
Fuck no. I love Heavy. Heavy is awesome to play. But he brings very little to the squad, even sniper does what he does but better
>Sniper/Vanguard B
Vanguard is S, any class with infinite HP healing is S. Health is all that matters in this game and with the new spawns throwing 50 extremis at players its basically infinite HP all mission. Sniper is better than heavy, actually brings a useful invis for reviving and can deal more nova damage which is what you want over sustained damage
>Tech c
Not even close, closer to A

>>559025050
Sorry techchuddie but that tierlist was made by the best youtuber in the game

>>559025241
An idiot you mean.

>Tired of playing with bots
>Go back to main menu
>Turn on crossplay
>Quit the game
>Relaunch the game
>Pick Heavy so I'm not techmarine and think that people will join
>Ruthless inferno
>Launch the game
>No one joins
>Neurothrope gets bugged inside underground
>Clear the mission and not a single person tried to join
What the fuck? How does this shit even work? Is using quickplay (which sends you to vortex/atreus/obelisk with players who can't parry a chaos spawn to save their lives) the only way to find a game? Am I alone in this or what?

>>559025241
When hes just showing off the numbers hes fine, but his opinions on everything is garbage. Hes been the biggest shill of block for ages which has always been garbage and still is, and when he isn't trying to sell block as 'super cool op mode!' he doesn't even use it.

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>>559020146

>>559026747
>Am I alone in this or what?
You're not. At least 3-4 other anons have just booted an open pub game and not a single person joined. Not even a courtesy
>log in
>see techmarine isn't selectable
>pick some other class
>load in
>quit

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>>558999448
Prestige 4 level 25

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>>559007621
I can't see them doing any major update before April. Maybe May because they will want to stretch it as far as possible. And what in the world is "progression update"? Are we getting some advanced skills trees?
>>559009339
I've seen that reply. I can only say it was funny because you rarely get to witness such cadence from a studio rep. Btw, this is what that bozo had to say a moment before your pic related. This should be a case study.

>>559007621
It almost looks like they put out all the best content in september and hoped for the best from there.
>>559024358
Surely, a dozen of people playing it will be happy but why bother with a dead weight of a mode?

>>559028826
>And what in the world is "progression update"? Are we getting some advanced skills trees?
I just think to myself "how would I make this game worse?"

So I imagine they're going to change Absolute and Normal/Hard stratagems to be even harder. And once you hit prestige 1 a new leveling system will unlock on top of it. It will give incremental 1% damage / HP increases and cost a combination of all the resources we've gathered so far. It will basically become a requirement to grind these forever as they continue to bloat enemy HP and damage forcing people to spend more and more resources just to keep up.

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>Really want to make an orange tech marine, industrial style look
>Not 1 good looking orange
I would like to remind everyone that Dawn of War 1 which released in 2004 had a fucking color wheel and the ONLY reason SM2 doesn't have this is because Sabre wants to pretend they're selling you a product.

I just finished leveling the auto bolt rifle since it was the only weapon I didn't do and thought I might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone while doing the techmarine.
What a shit gun.

>>559030078
Yes, that's why everyone pulls that shit. It's not about making something fun and customizable, it's something fun enough and seeing what you can do to sell the player more crap in small transactions.

>>559030192
Shoehorning all the stupid pointless primaris bolter variants into the game when it used to just be bolter+stalker bolter+storm bolter was such a waste.

>>559030192
I think its funny how bad it is when their Commando game is about to come out and that has great guns. The SCAR-H they have feels more like a bolter than the bolter in space marine lol.

>>559025050
>its still buggy and it isn't even that strong
Assault with the dodge built and a power fist kills bosses faster than Bulwark.

>>559030192
It's genuinely impressive how bad most of the bolt weapons are and some bolt weapons have been buffed almost every patch

>>559027104
Possibly the most garbage list I've ever seen produced for this game.

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>bulwark consolefag is clearly bad at game, constantly dying and is on a wound already
>just before two primes there is a relic behind those trains or whatever
>I ping it numerous times but he refuses to pick it up
>can't write to him because consolefags can't see chat either
>he dies immediately on the arena leaving me and heavy to fight
FUCKING WHY
what is wrong with consolefags? I suspect at this point that they can't see all the details since they sit far away from screen or some other utterly stupid shit like this
i on other hand fucked up dueling last prime while I was last man standing and he had literal 1 hp remaining

Also played Exfiltration and characters still mention that they wish Techmarine accompanied them on this mission, despite me being a Techmarine. Can't make this shit up. Wish I taken a screenshot

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The warp has taken me, brothers

>>559031434
Objective fact list. Sorry your dogshit class isn't stronger but blame the devs for making such a shit tier attempt at balancing.

>>559031462
Is it a good pain?

>>559031450
Techpriest: since you have no techmarine with you I will simplify the rite for you
Telorian: ......

>>559031748
Presuming you're >>559025050 you've literally defeated your own damn argument.

Heavy is the second tankiest class in the game in regards to damage taken = death. He's able to get 130% HP through a perk, he's got a couple of damage reduction perks on top, and his Heavy Plasma Incinerator is still one of the best weapons in the game. Heavy is the best all-rounder in the game, and you've got him in fucking low B-tier behind Sniper who provides borderline jack shit beyond popping Thropes fast, something both Tactical and now Techmarine do just as well but provide more for the team. The inclusion of Chaos Spawn completely decimated Sniper's ability to deal with the Thousand Sons, he's borderline unplayable against them on Absolute.

And nobody beats Assault for mogging hordes now, not even Bulwark. Assault does it faster thanks to the constant chained AOE damage by just jump evading everything completely safe and then gaining retard damage bonuses every time he does it.

>>559032214
Ah I see, an upset Heavy fag. Its time to learn how to separate your personal identity from classes in a video game, you're not a 'heavy main' you're just a dude who likes playing it. Maybe you play it well, maybe you're dogshit, but the class is objectively not as good as the others in that list.

Say it with me now, this is not a judgement on your skill or character, its just an objective fact.

>>559032342
Ah, it's an attention slut addicted to (you)s.

>>559032440
>insults to save face
I accept your concession. But no this isn't a troll post you genuinely are just wrong.

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>>559029703
>I just think to myself "how would I make this game worse?"
I think this is how I need to start approaching this game when I try to get in devs' mindset.
>And once you hit prestige 1 a new leveling system will unlock on top of it. It will give incremental 1% damage / HP increases and cost a combination of all the resources we've gathered so far.
You know what's the worst part about it? You're probably not too far off the mark. This hits very close home, considering it's Saber we're talking here. It's all so tiresome, I just want the game to be simple in its design and the game director and co. are hellbent on making the experience painful.

>>559032589
He's delusional. Take him away.

I don’t care where people want to put assault on a tier list, all I know is dodge build assault with the relic power sword is the most fun shit in this game and I can solo without bots on absolute with it so it’s strong enough.

>>559032851
>I can solo without bots on absolute with it so it’s strong enough.
Tier lists are always a case of memeing and bullshit. You can solo absolute with any class therefore all classes are basically the same.

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KARAK FUCKING STONE

>>559031450
>can't write to him because consolefags can't see chat either
Really? So only voice works for them? I never knew that.

>>559033294
is saber even adding new paints anymore?

>>559033103
>You can solo absolute with any class therefore all classes are basically the same.
Yeah, but you base characters on a tier list depending on how painful it is.

Assault is easy S-tier on Chaos now. Low A on Tyranids because he dogs them just as hard, but the moment any of the floating big brain family turns up, he's up shit creek if he's without any assistance to cover for him.

The perk that reduces ranged damage when surrounded by 5 or more enemies is actually kind of shit no? When i’m surrounded by loads of shit I don’t really get shot that much, ranged enemies are mostly a problem when the game spams nothing but ranged fuckers or a devourer enrages in your face.

>>559033729
>When i’m surrounded by loads of shit I don’t really get shot that much,
Then you're not playing on the hardest difficulty where the average enemy encounter is 6+ Tyranid Devourers beaming you from across the arena in question.

>>559033729
Anything that stops snipers one shotting me randomly is welcome.

>>559033557
I find assault much better against nids because they actually swing at you letting you get perfect dodges. Neuro isn’t bad at all on assault just a bit dull since you’re waiting for it to land, zoans can be ground pounded to soften them up and the heroic heavy bolt pistol handles them decently well after. Chaos are deeply boring, because you aren’t getting many dodges or perfect blocks off the only really good weapon for them is fist (hammer is alright too) which is such a ducking boring weapon to use. Against nids though I can actually have fun with the heroic chainsword or a powersword and do combos while perfecting dodging mid hit when needed.

>>559033994
I only play on absolute. Now that assault has more choices in their prestige perks i’ve been trying to gauge how often that one is actually helping me and it’s surprisingly not that often because of the slot system. Might still keep it, but in considering dropping it for more ranges damage to help with contested health regen

>>559027104
my opinion:
bulwark & vanguard are S tier because healing
tactical, heavy, tech and assault are A tier
sniper is C tier

>>559032214
People complain a lot about ranged nigs spamming from the backlines but no one seems to bat an eye when your sniper fucking domes all the ranged tyranid warriors before the fight even starts.

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W-what?

>>559036220
yes
probably melee attacks and its just 10% i guess. generally think that the perks dont really work because sometimes you have like 300% total on paper but it does not feel any different at all

>>559036652
I'm thinking this perk should be busted, but yeah, it probably doesn't work like whatever perk is busted on Assault.

>>559036887
their wording is always ass. on the omnissian axe you now have perks that say "increase melee damage" and on other weapons you have "20% increased damage after execute" or similar stuff, implying it also raises other types of damage, wich it does not.
saber just fucking sucks at this. the biggest offence imo is that perks that buff you for a duration do not refresh themselves, except some do. they are incompetent.

>quickplay techmarine
>puts me in a team with 2 other techmarines
WHY
DOES
IT
EVEN
PLACE
ME
IN
THIS
GAME
>can't even select to host my own and start with bots
Kill these retarded devs

>>559030078
Delicious mango flavored grav tank

So the xenophase blade has 20% more power rake damage (and more width but that doesn’t buff the cleave so it doesn’t really matter) but the regular balanced powersword has much higher base damage. Which deals more power rake damage?

How do we eliminate the console nigger menace

>>559044036
DDOS'ing Xbox and Playstation Live servers. Unfortunately, I think the days of low level hackers being able to shut down shit for online games is long over.

The Techmarine should have been a paid DLC class with proper voicework put in to it
The voice pack should have been free

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ABR with flamer when?

>perfect jetpack dodge
>doesnt actually trigger so i lose charge
This shit really is buggy

>>559047983
it uses the charge before you have iframes from the dodge. its been like this since the game came out.

>>559045212
I wish the vanguard got a pyreblaster

I have not played a single round of vanguard or assault. Am I missing out on anything?

>>559049824
Why can't Vanguard have pyreblaster anyway? It suits him well.

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Should Tact's Secured Stockpile and Techmarine's Combat Squad Resupply be swapped?

>>559052245
Yes.

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This is my formal apology to Assault. Techmarine is somehow worse than you ever were. Also xenophase dash assault is fucking incredible.

>>559052245
Yes

Techmarine needs a ranged buff and ammo regen

>>559052245
no, they should commit to making techmarine a melee class with a ranged panic option and give him some hp sustain

>>559055693
Wouldn't mind this either
Armor on gunstrike would be fucking great

>Reliquary Strike out Shadow of the Warp
2/3 dailies completable! They STILL haven't fixed strike out not giving armour on fencing parries.

I'm so locked in on melee Techmarine that I'm ignoring buying perks outright as I'm going through Presige 2.

>>559055416
>ranged buff
Your 20% ranged increase outside of 20 meters?

>>559055416
a ranged buff doesn't matter much if he's still only got mediocre guns (besides plasma)
unless they're going to add combi-heroic versions of the auto bolt and occulus bolt that gives them an underslung flamer or plasma or volkite or grav gun.

I genuinely don't understand how people are complaining about techmarine damage because I am nigh unkillable in 99% of scenarios outside of getting wombo combo'd by thropes when the servo gun is on cooldown

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Console Niggers need to die.

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>>559060459
forgot this
just make him a melee class that instead of a gap closer or a shield he has CC from guns

It feels like they buffed melta damage. Used to take forever to put a majoris into execute, now it's only a few shots

>>559060676
>join some solo's absolute decapitation run as tactical
>helping him melt everything
>a micspamming preteen console bulwark joins and immediately starts trying to tell us what to do (ignored)
>keeps trying to handshake with the server hoster (ignored)
>having a melty through the open mic
>reach the tunnels to the final stage and he's berating everyone for taking the stims (he's already on 1hp)
>tell him he's a max prestige bulwark and should have a button that instantly restores all his health anyway
>another melty and leaves before the boss fight

crossplay is a blessing and a curse

>>559060459
Techmarine should have access to kraken/hellfire rounds as a bolter upgrade.

>>559063434
you mean 50% more damage on body shots kek
techmarines are supposed to have actually high tech guns like grav guns

>>559063879
No I mean all bolters should have an ammo upgrade variant. Reduce the headshot damage on them and give us kraken and hellfire rounds. Now Bolters are good against everything if you take the right ammo upgrade.

>>559064782
If the vatniks were smart and competent they would've had special rounds as branching paths on the weapon perk tree

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I'm somewhat enjoying running around charging through packs. Shitting out damage consistently is fun.

>>559065983
A man would think you felt nothing while playing him

>>559066496
It was kinda fun being able to instantly clear the generators using the Servo Gun and Omnissiah Charge. I was Level 1 and the other guys were like 12 and 20. If I had him fully leveled, he'd be a beast.

>My hard stratagem just got marked as finished even though I haven't
>So I must have joined a game, quit, then they finished it or something and it registered it to me
>But didn't get any blue coins for it
Holy fucking shit this game is SUCH A BUGGY MESS

>>559064782
>>559063434
The bolters already perform like they're using kraken bolts since they massively overpenetrate constantly instead of exploding in the target for massive damage.

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FINALLY!
I CAN DROP THIS DOGSHIT CLASS UNTIL THEY BUFF IT OR FORGET IT EXISTS INDEFINITELY!

>>559067180
Why would they buff him? Seems pretty strong as is outside of the lack of ammo.

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>>559030078
I saw an anon a while back say that DoW1 was made before GW got turbo autistic about their products. Every 40k game made afterwards has their citadel color product line as designated, approved colors to choose from. DoW2, 3, Merchanicus, Space Marine 1, and 2 all have it. It's probably true.

>>559067495
nta but
>telorian is pretty strong
>except for the one thing that matters on higher difficulties
He has no ammo sustain/recovery and that's the biggest gripe with him people have. Sure you can activate a turret if you have the invul prestige perk but that's a band aid not a cure to the problem. It would be common sense to have him get back ammo in some way. inb4
>Saber
>common sense

>>559067495
He has one thing going for him once you get to absolute, his sniper servo turret annihilating tyrranid bosses - its not terrible vs chaos but the problem is you are not fighting one boss at a time with a 2 min cd for your 'boss kill' ability to come back. I routinely have a Helbrute and 4 TS terminators at the same time. I just did an absolute disruption and before the bridge had a helbrute, 4 termies, another helbrute and a sorcerer. One of the termies blew up the single turret that spawned with his rockets in his opening salvo - there goes my servo cd regen, there goes my damage resist and damage bonus. He spawned across the gap and started firing before anyone could do anything.

No one else is as gimped and tied to rng like Techmarine and the worse part is that AT BEST when things 'go your way' its mediocre. How in the actual fuck do we have a worse equipment returne than tactical then 3 other talents built around spamming it? His equipment on exe cd needs to be cut down in half - they clearly have some inclination to make him bomberman but tripped on the last hurdle.

I am not saying he doesn't have high damage. My problem is it lasts about 10 secs and then he is basically a lvl 10 Tactical for 3-4 mins and in that time you fight 2 more extremis and 3 more waves - while no other class suffers from such a shitty downtime in their power output.

>>559067734
You have the servo gun which is skill on demand that shits out damage and your turrets are also more powerful than any primary. I suppose it all depends on what primary you're using but he does fine with the HBR.

>>559067495
he's really not, he has one trick in turning thropes into dust but he's got nothing going for him
>no ammo sustain if a ranged class (and poor ranged steroids)
>no hp sustain if melee
>bad gun options if ranged
>okay melees but his signature weapon is ass compared to fist or hammer
>turrets are RNG, you'll constantly run into situations where the only turret requires you to push through the horde it would help in killing
>servo gun is the only quick method you have for killing elites but requires you to give up AoE gunstrikes
>the automatic gunstrikes aren't even that great except when surrounded by a shitload of minoris but no class should need help dealing with gaunts
You have to work to combine all facets of his kit at all times to still only do as much as a sniper or vanguard but those two also have sustain and get out of jail free cards. Meanwhile guys like heavy or bulwark can evaporate every mob on the map before you even see them without even trying that hard.
Techmarine is low B or high C tier, definitely one of the weakest classes.

How is heroic HBR on Tactical? Does it even make sense to pick it over Stalker Bolter or it's again a situational niche?

>>559069050
I've been using it on the techmarine to pretty satisfactory results.

>>559068402
True, but the servo is on cooldown so in that downtime you of course can and should rely on turrets but you really have nothing outside of that. I just think there should be part of his kit that lets you be a bit more independent if things get really dicey and you can't use servo (or a tarantula).

Honestly I totally forgot why I kind of hated playing this game on harder difficulty

you basically just spend the entire match playing solo with two dead guys on xbox or ps4

Hey lads, just checking in now that I've gotten the time to play a bit of techmarine and the new op. Was curios what you all thought of it. For techmarine it feels good to play at least in the lower difficulties, the axe is pretty intuitive to use and the backgun feels like I have heavy bot with me all the time plus after a bit of acclimating to it doing the gun strike I feel more efficient. Granted I'm grinding it in close range probably way more than I have to but thats mainly due to still figuring out what guns to use. Turrets have been more miss than hit though. Feels like I have to get lucky to have a turret spawn within sight of a horde thats also isn't close enough and dense enough that I'm not risking damage/wasting time activating them. Even in the maps with a holdout section like inferno I've had that shit spawn in possibly the worst place it could have. Also what red have you guys been using for him? Been using evil suns red but it and the one they have for the techmarine sample palette still feel wrong

New op is pretty cool conceptually at least. Seeing nids and chaos duke it out and more cadian presence was a nice change of pace. Also another op that doesn't have a boss encounter finally. Granted the narrative of the op feels hyper-disjointed and I'm fairly certain its still nominally a chaos since most of the extremis and boss spawns I had in the few chances I've played it have all been chaos. I think it might be the easiest "chaos" mission since they have to share the lead role but its not that much worse than the nid no-boss ops so its a welcome change.

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I don't think I've seen the Hive Tyrant get raped this fast in a while.
>>559068402
>he does fine with the HBR
It gets boring using nothing but the HBR. I've tried to make the Bolt Rifle work and it just does not have enough ammo even when I'm trying to be frugal with it. It takes way too many fucking rounds just to kill ONE (1) majoris, and that's even if you manage to play perfectly and land every single shot to the head (body shots do such a pathetic amount of damage that you may as well have not hit them at all).
If they insist on not making drastic changes to the ammo economy and/or weapon damage across the board (and they won't, because they're stubborn faggots who insist their vision for the game is best even though none of them can complete a match on absolute) then Tech Marine needs to be given something to help with his ammo economy so he can get out of HBR hell. Even just giving him Auxiliary Reload would at least be SOMETHING. Considering he actually has a melee weapon he has more of a reason to have it than Heavy does.

>>559070259
i've only seen one carnifex spawn on it but at least 8 helbrutes by now, some of which only managed to beat because valtus climbed all the way up to us

>>559070423
I just played with that Gara bloke. Good player.

>>559067495
Its funny cos none of the complaints have applied to me and I agree he feels strong. I only play Absolute and 'Nids, although I do like the new mission a lot, maybe just because its only 50% Chaos.

>Ammo
I've never run out. Relic HB and HBP. I also basically just use the Relic HB 24/7, purely headshots, grenade launching when there is a giant pack of mediums or exotics who need to die quickly.
>Turret
Genuinely map breaking. They are so common, and make the experience so much easier, I take the perk that increases damage and ammo and I also use the perk that gives flat resistance and increased damage because I don't think either of the other perks are really that useful. They're monsters, they rip mediums and extremis to shreds, they're a great gimmick to dodge damage with the prestige perk, often I just go afk around them and they do all the work.
>Equipment build/regen
This is where he falls flat, I don't bother with it. Its just not necessary on him and too RNG to get the right nades, it also interferes with his real build which is
>Precision Servo + Targeted AoE
This combo is a fucking beast, and people are understating it. It not only one taps Neuros, it also 70% removes the HP of any other boss which are almost always the lose factor for matches with randoms. You can also use it a hell of a lot more than just bosses, it can wipe out packs of mediums or extremis so easily its definitely OP. I don't find the basic or plasma version even though they have more ammo and more uses across a mission contributes more than this. You need to understand when and where bosses spawn though.
>Ranged damage
Never have any issues, its about the same TTK
>Melee
I don't really use it, the new relic knife is nice for faster kills, but the top row + charging build with the relic omni is also very strong. Its boring to spam charging attacks point blank but it works anyway.

Anyway imo hes strong, definitely one of the better classes.

>>559070460
I'm guessing it was an early spawn for the carnifex then? Like before closing the gates with the cadians? The one time I had a boss spawn close to valtus it was a hellbrute that spawned in just after he destroyed the barrier so while me and the boys were fighting it at the start of the bridge I look in the background as valtus does his heldrake spot and proceed to attack the enemies that spawned on the other end of the bridge and ignoring us. Probably just a fluke but it felt more personal considering that once inside the cathedral I've seen him slaughter the whole field for us

bros just picked this game up what are the best shits for a vanguard

I literally can't kill an incapped terminator that my servo gun incapped with the HBR as TM (it's out of range of an execute).

>>559071028
yes, in the narrow room right after the first assemble where you can see nids and chaos fighting, like one of the campaign carnifex fights

>>559070259
>Was curios what you all thought of it
Frustrating class that I wont touch again once I max it. Half the class revolves around turrets, the other half on your servo gun. The problem comes from the first part, the turrets have set places where they "can" spawn but that doesn't mean they will spawn where you need them. The only team perk that isn't absolute dogshit is the turret one ironically, so what you bring to the team is extemely limited while other classes can bring buffs that are always active and work all the time. Not to mention that for your team to take advantage of that buff they also need to stay in the vicinity of your tarantula which you have zero guarantee they will and honestly if they know how to play the game they never will because they will have cleared whatever wave was coming before your tarantula starts having a meaningful impact.
Most people have been playing techmarine solo with bots since everyone wants to try him and don't realize that, they're happy doing their solo run glued to any tarantula they find while objectively in a team it's a toss up whether you'll even be useful at any point of the map other than the terminus fight.
Overall this would have been fixable if instead of grenades the tech carried deployable tarantulas and you could have given him a perk to recover tarantula uses over time or on extremis kills.
As for the new OP, it feels really short.
Half baked class, half baked new map, half baked update but please understand we have deadline tovarich. Clearly a skeleton crew.

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I think I'll go with Xenophase blade for my bulwark next . Sure it's balanced so it is by default crap but one can't ignore the damage and the boost it gives to power rake. Plus I feel like Quartus can just shield block if I mess up the timings (which I will cause I used balanced so scarcely I might not have used it at all).

>>559073369
balanced is fine once you internalize the timings and figure out how to manipulate the minoris a bit
the hardest part is getting used to it after playing a lot of block or fencing

>>559042224
the balanced one

>>559049926
yes

>>559060587
people are retards.
>see techmarine has a bunch of melee talents
>see that he has probably the most potent Q in the game
>shoot my HBR with grenades instead, go empty and yell on forums

Just found out you can return to title screen, rejoin to hub and it resets your weeklies for extra shekels.

>>559075254
oh, so that's how this happened to me.

>>559075254
Have you tested if it actually gives the doritos or is it just a visual bug?

For the three people who care, Tech Marine in PvP gets his plasma servogun with Lethal Perimeter, so the aimbot is a projectile that can be sidestepped in a limited area.

>>559075605
oh yeah, did the easy one as a test and it fully refreshes

>>559027104
I fucking love the parryslop experience on bulwark so much
Drop a shock field when I perfect parry or when my shields drop, the shock field weakens enemies and hurts them, and perfect parry does aoe every 5 seconds
holy shit add a fencing heroic power sword or chain sword saber, please
it's so much fun

>>559076060
Thanks, might as well try and max my techmarine while getting the few cosmetics I'm missing.

>>559076179
You can just use the heroic power fist and on top of your parryslop experience you'll also have free gunstrikes for extra damage with your heroic HBP

Another day, another opportunity to suffer at the hands of unprestiged players insisting on joining hard stratagem missions.

>>559077369
On one hand, it's sabre's fault for the retarded "hard" wording, on the other hand, I've seen P4 players not be able to read the modifiers.

>>559075254
Explain?

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>>559076060
>>559076998
It does fucking work, thanks again Anon, at least this will make playing with bots a little bit more bearable.

>>559078318
Its 100% the devs fault for having so many stupid fucking modes and stupid fucking ideas. Blue sheks should be just in the normal rotation, more if you complete absolute.

>>559080908
Launch the game, open your stratagem tab in your lobby, escape and quit to title, rejoin. Then your weekly stratagems should have reset.
Problem is apparently it only works once per day, I redid the easy weekly and now I can't reproduce it no matter what.

>>559081885
>more if you complete absolute.
get a load of this guy.

>>559081885
You should actually get more if you finish normal, in fact it should all be reversed.

Normal weekly/daily: 200/15 doritos
Hard weeky/daily: 150/10 doritos

>>559083320
Unironically it should be like this. Especially if Hard is going to be as cancer as it was this week.

I'm having more fun with the combi melta than with the HBR on tech marine.

>>559083320
You should also, of course, get the weekly normal auto-completed if you do weekly hard.

>>559083320
>>559084607
You have my upvote, but I fear it is too reasonable for Saber and the man himself.

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Was the 50% extra damage on Kraken Penetration Rounds perk on Tactical fixed when using the Pyreblaster?
I remember it did gargantuan amount of damage. I just want to burn shit up Brothers...

>>559085295
Yes, it only applies to bolt weapons again

God the Omniaxe is just the Thunder hammer/Power fist but so much more responsive and can stagger shit.

>>559087741
It's the only reason to play techmarine really, the only fun tool he has, especially since it flows with gunstrikes well.

>>559087741
Omnissian axe is nowhere near the power fist, no melee weapon in the game is.

>>559088287
same but thunder hammer desu

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There still isn't a fucking way to host your own online lobby and every single fucking time it's sending me into an already started game where techmarine is taken despite having picked techmarine myself.

>>559089035
>REEE I WILL NOT USE THIS SLIGHTLY OBSCURE WAY OF DOING THINGS! GIVE ME A BUTTON I CAN CLICK REEE

>>559090445
You need to kill yourself

>he knows what i'm talking about
q.e.d.

>>559085295
This>>559086203 but don't worry you can still wreak havoc with pyreblaster. It's awesome with auspex (and without it).

>three days after the update and the general is already dead.
good. but how much more time do i need to wait for the matchmaking to start working again.

>>559090445
>the obscure way in question being playing alone with bots
Doesn't really fix the issue, does it

>>559096460
well? he pretended not to know how to host a public lobby. if you want to play with people there's a straighforward way post the fucking code

>>559096454
Brother even with crossplay turned on and not playing techmarine I did 4 stratagems today and no one joined any.
At this point I don't know what to tell you, matchmaking was always broken but never that bad. Doubt they are even working on a hotfix out of spite due to the (warranted) bad reaction to this update and the voice DLC.

>Designated Target
>Enemies hit by the Servo-Gun take 15% more Damage for 10 seconds
I'm not sure if this is actually what's amping up my Precision Servo-Gun harder to two shot zoans or if the Precision Servo-Gun is busted on its own.

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>have 1000 doritos
>login
>receive 200 of them
>still 1000 in total
Which utter retard of a vatnik thought a hard cap on that currency is a good idea? Why would you give me 200 blue shits if I'm already maxed out and if you don't intend for me to go above that limit?
Fucking hell what a moronic company. Moronic game direction.

The prestige perks increasing stimm effectiveness more or less got soft-nerfed because they added red stimms.
I also learned red stimms CAN heal wounds if you regain to full and heal just a bit over full HP value.

>>559101084
>I also learned red stimms CAN heal wounds if you regain to full and heal just a bit over full HP value.
if red stimms heal up to full HP then how do you heal "just a bit over" full HP with them? by using a white medkit afterwards? vanguard regen?

>>559101379
If the effects are still ongoing and you hit something at full HP then you heal your wound.

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>>559101619
anon, I... am pretty sure that I did that plenty of times by now and would notice if the wound went away, but I'm going to watch closely next time.

>>559101807
There's also a small initial healing value that red stimms give before the CHP kicks in which can also heal you if you're at full and just want to clear the wound.

>>559101807
There are two ticks of healing inside of the CHP growth that you don't really see unless you're watching it closely. One in the beginning, and one about halfway through. It probably won't heal a wound if you're down half your health

>>559099732
You just don't get their Vision(tm), anon

Can someone explain to me how the dash jump attack works? Is it just any attack after I tap q?

>>559106554
Yes, and it should come out like a running attack.

>>559107295
So as long as I keep an internal 10 sec count, I should have infinite Q's. Do I have to hit something though?

no codes?

>>559103328
That's certainly a way of looking at it, yes. I personally subscribe to the theory that theirs is a vodka-induced vision prevents them from making logical decisions through that alcohol-haze.
Then again unlike Saber devs I play their game.

>>559107769
Yeah I'm pretty sure you have to hit something.

>>559108694
I can play a game or two in about two hours. Around 10 PM CET.

>>559108694
This game fucking sucks.

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>try to save my jetpack dodge for the last second to make sure it goes off
>doesnt go off and get beamed by enemy
>do it too early and it doesnt proc anyways
Most inconsistent shit in the game I swear

I like blood angels

>>559114320
Awesome! And what do you think of the current rise in prices of electrical components due to increasing investments in AI sector?

>>559114320
Oh yeah?
Name all the different Blood Angel Types then?

>>559114320
I bet your favorite movie is twilight

PSA: You can paint the trim on the IF champion skin shoulder pad separately from the aquila.

>>559114717
A+, A-, B, B-, AB+, AB-, O+, O-

>Voice Pack now at Overwhelmingly Negative
>In a game where not one of the many mediocre cosmetic packs have went below Mixed
Oh yeah, the entire concept of these things is either canned, or they're gonna announce plans for what they're doing moving forward. Very real chance VP1 is the sacrificial lamb at least, and Black Templar, Blood Angel and Space Wolves fans just got shafted so Raven Guard, White Scars and X Chapter got a better deal with a far higher quality pack.

>>559116487
Not one of them is a successor chapter.
DENIED!

>>558999448
prestige IV Lvl 01

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>>558999448
P4 L25
I will likely never play it again. Unless there is a major overhaul. It is not fun to me.

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i liked the class, it was not the worst, but it could be better. this vexes me.

>>559121695
>Griffon chad
Nice to see.

>>559121509
The Tarantulas should have been the class ability, and the Servo-Gun should have just been an innate part of him that shoots at shit alongside you, but had the same damage as a Bolt Pistol in exchange. Think the Guard Dogs from Helldivers.

Nobody into engineer classes wants their turrets to be some RNG aspect of their character.

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>>559121998
thx! I also do other chapter/legions in a lore accurate way

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wack

>https://www.kimberprime.com/decapitation
Back when Absolute introduced terminus spawns to operations that had an endboss, I was told that a terminus enemy could spawn in the room after the elevator but directly before the HT's double doored saferoom.
Is this map wrong? It doesn't display a terminus spawn indicator there.

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>>559122247
I was super tempted to buy the Salamanders pack just for that icon and the snake one to do a better Iron Snake. I wish they didn't half ass the customization. If they would've done the Exorcists properly with their rune covered armor, it would've been perfect for a Word Bearer. I kinda made a 30k version that worked, but even back then they had inscriptions on their armor, so it still looked a bit off. I chose Assault because Argel Tal was a jump pack bro in The First Heretic.

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>>559123215
just wait for the mods fren, the devs would never care

>>559123308
Oh, sexy MK4. If only GW and Saber weren't fucking gay. It's my favorite variant. I tried modding the game once, but it just doesn't feel the same.

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>>559123457
I hope it gets better

>Newest Operation canonically takes place before Ballistic Engine/Exfiltration and Decapitation/Vox Lib and during the time Titus' squad first arrives on Avarax to snoop around with the cogitator to find Leuze.

>>559124478
BUT WE CANT HAVE TECHMARINE VOICELINES FOR THE OLD OPERATIONS CAUSE HE WASNT CANONICALLY AROUND AT THE TIME OK

>>559123164
I've gotten a neurothrope there once a long time ago. It's probably been changed. Haven't seen anything there since.

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This bores me.

Is anyone up for a game of Space Marine 2?

X7C5R

>>559124838
Timeline consistency autism wise, the only operations Techmarine isn't explicitly present for are the Kadaku missions (Inferno and Termination)
This also means this is the first time in the campaign's chronology that we meet Valtus preceding the encounter in Fall of Atreus

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I highly recommend dash assault.

Ballistic Engine Lethal. 1 slot open.

MGH49

>>559125437
Still up?

>play the new stratagem
>every few minutes me and the bulwark go down because we forgot the tactical didn't disable the explosive execution perk and he's catching every gaunt jumping at him

>>559122139
It should've been a passive that automatically shoots at the nearest target in range.
It should also have a really long range and aggro targets far ahead of you, making speedrunners mad.

>find the omnissian axe to be really lame outside of the great executions
>100% winrate
>pick any other weapon
>wow i actually deal damage
>eat shit and die/lose 90% of my health on a minor mistake

>>559129768
Omnissian Axe feels great to me aside from one thing.
The damn overhead swing has so much recovery. You're not allowed to dodge out of it if you're locked in the animation.
But detonating the AOE explosion after the swing has basically no recovery, you're safer doing that after a single swing than ever doing multiple axe swings.

>>559128858
QZWZV

>>559130029
I have exclusively been doing either the charge or a single swing followed by the explosion.

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Why did I randomly get 200 Doritos?

>>559131339
t. blood raven

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>>559131501
Fucking slut you're asking for it and you're gonna get it.

>>559123164
I got a Biovore there once.

4DXPD

>>559129514
This right here is one of the reasons I just leave the reinforcement call = explosion perk on. I know it's probably not optimal but it feels fucking miserable having Radiating Impact go off when the very first minoris in a mission decides to lunge at you. Especially when I can abuse the fuck out of Second Look to pop one Majoris every fight while maintaining Auspex for a better opportunity.

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>>559133546
I got disconnected, brother. But gg.

>>559133479
I frequently get Zoans but never a Terminus despite what 2-3 anons have told me they've gotten a Neuro in there.

>>559137252
oh rip i thought you left so i just left

plasma or regular bolter for fire?

>>559123164
A Terminus can first spawn in the large area just before the drop to the bomb area
It can also spawn inside the bomb area, fuck your life if its a Neurothrope
The last spawn point is near the final lift
I believe Saber steathily nerfed Terminus spawns where boss battles are already present e.g Exfiltration (except for Termination because the game does not classify the Biotitan as a Terminus so Absolute runs can easily spawn 2)

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I got my Techmarine to rep1, overall I like the class since I like defensive play with turrets and such BUT I get why people might find it too passive and unexciting with the class ability and weapon selection.

Ironically for a defensive class it has very low self-sustain (maybe they'll swap class perks around so he gets more team equipment and armor regen) and insane boss damage (throw a grenade to up your damage, activate the servo gun with the right perks and any terminus is almost dead).

Overall I'll wait with leveling him further until people stop hogging him, some of his perks are ironed out and hopefully they fixed the fucking bugs.

>>559140456
They don't even have a date for this week's hotfix

>put a bunch of equipment related perks on the techmarine
>tactical is the one that gets regenerating equipment charges as a passive
:)