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Visual Novel General #7461
This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it
>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader
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https://vndb.org/g
>Download Links:
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Bingo. Thank you!
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Haven't a clue... Could be the green-loli mind control kicking in or the music? It's the worst game for the story taking over from the girls and it has lame romance outside of the Lena route. The last Yuzuge that had anything special was Sanoba but that is carried purely on Nene's back.
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Can't really judge the story until it gets more into the main plot (seems it's about to be more directly related around the part I'm at now), but the character interactions and Ruka trying to be more serious and get his team to work together has been fun. Not very far in.
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What games give off similar vibes to Trap Garden? Fluffy Yuri like romance with sex stuck on the back burner. Not Flowers either, that game is too gay for me and my best girl gets cucked
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>>558906816
There's nothing wrong with an ecks dee or two.
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>>558906978
It's how some of them look poor, as those in that picture do. This one for example looks okay.
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No, of course not. What gave you that idea?
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Kozupii is such a sweet girl...
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>Resolution converted to 16:9 (4:3 unavailable)
did they crop the art and make a shittier release here or is this the definitive version?I'm mostly just playing this to hear Imai Asami again
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>>558907963
A lot of companies do that for whatever reason when they release their games in a higher resolution. Original resolution was 800x600 which doesn't really cut it nowadays.
Then again there are outliers where they actually upgrade the resolution properly (pic related)
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>>558907281
I'd vote for the Subahibi AGP party anyday of the week.
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>>558907714
>saw this suddenly pop up among the top rated in vndb
>art looks amazing
>synopsis sounds great, the kino mystery what umineko couldn't become
>yaoi
Fuck, this ain't the first time it happens, why do these gay games always sound like they have great plot?
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>>558907390
Based and straight
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Isn't there a bizarre number of Vinnie players who play in Windowed mode with the original definition? Or who get mad when their remaster doesn't allow them to put massive ugly fucking bars on the side of the screen?
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>>558908464
>sound like they have great plot?
It does
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>>558908681
>BUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWOBUKIWO
HFK
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>>558908464
A lot of great writers are fucked in the head, especially when it comes to sexuality. You can either hide in your moe safe space or accept that there might be a little sodomy in a proper plotge. Your choice.
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dracumid? No, would rather read a good vampire VN.
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>>558908169
Nope. If they didn't just get someone to voice that video for the sake of it, maybe he'll be voiced during the climax or something.
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>2011+15
>Grisaia is still the best VN in history
Will it ever be surpassed?
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Winner on the right
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Trying my hand at umineko again, last i dropped it mid episode 4, just was kinda burnt out, probably a mix of length, real life shit coming down, and method of "reading".
Read the first episode raw out of curiosity, found the manga read the first episode manga, read the second episode of the vn, found out that mr anderson had read it, started watching the vods in bed, rewatched the first and second episode, read the second episode manga, watched episode 3 vods, read the episode 3 manga, and then life kinda raped me.
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>>558909543
Uhm ackchually Boogiepop Phantom is the name of the anime original midquel adaptation (which was really good). The novel series is ackchually just Boogiepop, which apparently is pretty good, but nobody TL it so who knows keh keh keh
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>>558909497
Nah man, Grisaia managed to breathe life into its characters like no other VN has done. It took basic archetypes (tsundere, big tiddy oneesan, maid, kusogaki, kuudere), dismantled them, and rebuilt them from scratch. The flashback arcs do a genius job at showing exactly what kind of life, experiences and trauma shaped what you externally see as archetypal "anime girl behavior"
The humor is top-tier, but the true kino is the underlying psychological development of the characters, it doesn't just show you what anime characters are and what they become, it shows you what *made* them that way.
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>this shit is marked 2-10 hours
On the site where you can read one route and then mark a game completed? Or just lie to impress people with how fast you read moonrunes? I'm so surprised that the data on that site is inaccurate.
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Kaya is so drunk she started speaking french
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>>558910836
Enemora could use a win too, I guess.
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Lucia is a miracle of the universe.And Chihaya is pretty nice, too.
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Happy merchant.
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errrr... pink no kuni?
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The existence of such a stupid, obnoxious, abject, and infuriating character whose only redeemable trait are her big tits (unironically, even nukige cowtit whores have more interesting stuff going on for them) is truly a wonder indeed.
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Someone should generate an AI image of them like this:
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4159522
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>>558913417
Is there anything the game has to offer than would appeal to the moefags in our group? Or is it purely carried by whatever mystery the game is about? I'm put off the game since it seems to have no cute girls and frankly a kind of ugly art style.
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Maybe on >>558912882
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morgana in the very last game is very cute but i'm not sure all that slog is really worth it
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my troonslation agent just works
>>558914347
it's one of the few file.png posts that aren't garbage
keep seething dumb jop
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>>558914347
I've nooticed this long ago in other generals. Glad to see it holds up to be true here as well.
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>>558914435
it appeals to people who hate weebshit and vns, aka failed normoids and women
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>implying file.png posters don't know about the filename randomization
we don't want retards like you to see our posts, simple as
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actually it's 2 mcs and one is a man
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Are there any VNs with art similar to this?
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=kawa_kit
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Ohhhhh!!! What an amazing thread!!!
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Width is fine but it's poorly drawn. Look at >real women with wide hips and that lower abdomen-to-upperleg area looks quite different despite the proportionately same width of hips. Jap artists just think pinching the sides wide = wide hips and job's done. Most people can't into anatomy for shit sadly.
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it looks better here >>558916425
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If you look closely at this Kimika, you can see she has self harm scars. What the heck, man? Why are Tumblr artists like this?
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He sure is devoted.
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I'm playing Volcano Princess right now and I'm kinda thinking... What appeals more to you?
Having a son who takes after you then marries a wife.
Having a daughter who marries a man and gives you grandkids.
Or having a daughter who marries another girl thus giving you two daughters?
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No... Don't get me wrong, I love incest, but for me incest should be between siblings only. Impregnating your own daughter is icky and vastly increases the chance of birth defects compared to your sister.
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Having a daughter that marries me (her daddy)
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kek retard elves at it again
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I don't play much Yuri stuff, but try this one
https://vndb.org/v15862#main
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See that I'm far more okay with. However I understand that a large part of the appeal of having a kid is raising them to become a better person than you no? Yeah, we all failed at life but in fantasy games having your kid grow up to become the head of the knights or a hero of justice is super cool
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You're nothing compared to Sachi, woman.
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Do you actually like looking at Vinnie vagina or are you like me and pretend they're like Barbie dolls under their pantsu? I just get so turned off when I think that my adorable heroine has an ugly flesh hole down there that she extracts dead baby gore out of monthly...
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I love white women
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I wonder if Touka would enjoy Ooe.
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I love white women heroines so much
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I think people who genuinely love majikoi heroines are beta males with a femdom fetish and possibly gay. Combative competency and physical strength are masculine features and require masculine traits to reach a high level of proficiency.
Q.E.D Yamato is the authors self insert for his femdom fetish and fans of the most powerful majikoi heroines are weak beta males and possibly bisexual
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English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Bound Between Desks
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)
>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>Thief's Roulette
>The Zodiac Trial
English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>Methods: The Canada Files (March 5)
>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO
>Ubel
>Underground22
>Whispering Memories (March 6)
>The Wonderland Killings
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>>558922357
You claim people who like the heroines have a femdom fetish, even though the heroines submit to and give their body to you. Ask the average fan and they'd tell you they tolerate the fact the MC is a weakling by comparison.
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>the archetypewas a shitpost
lmao no wonderRean was seething
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The idea of physically strong women lusting after a weaker man in a submissive and not dominative capacity is so far removed from reality there is no substance strong enough to maintain the suspension of disbelief. Outside of the most ignorant and oblivious readers, no reasonable man would look at this and think "yeah man getting sex with a girl who can kick my ass anytime she wants is hot af". It's emasculating and scenes like Momoyo telling yamato she doesn't see him as a man and reverse raping him are the only semblance of reasonable and truthful writing in this opposite world setting
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Pure kino. Moebutas won.
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If you read a VN where every heroine had a third arm growing out of her head and you complained about the absurdity of it followed by some other anon saying "where do you think you are anon?", how would you respond? Fantasy is basically idealized reality, it still needs to be somewhat grounded to be palatable, appealing and desirable. Swapping gender roles is about on the same level as the third arm growing out of a heroines head
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NTA but nobody said that, you are being disingenuous. Now take Re:D cherish. The MC is stronger, a better melee fighter, has an op mod and smarter. The girl however is a much better shooter than he is and could give him a run for his money. She falls head over heels for him and respects him as a MAN. This is believable and HOT(def not a re:d cherish shill)
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Akino rimjob...
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The entire main scenario in 2 is his route.
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No way. She's got vents to crawl through and vortigaunts to club.
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>>558928623
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Does anyone else get thrown off by Japan's masochism towards any kind of justicefag heroine? I genuinely can't remember the last time I've seen a story featuring a heroic girl that hasn't been about deconstructing her to pieces or tormenting her with impossible choices. Give me a girl who refuses to stand by whilst the weak are being bullied, will go out of her way to help those in need, and lives a satisfied life knowing that the world is a better place due to her actions.
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Yuzuslop is genuinely very low quality rubbish to be fair. I don't understand why /vn/ goes out or their way to defend those reddit tier games when they're soulless slop that would rather shove a subpar McGuffin plot down your throat instead of letting you watch the cute girls charm you. There are so many Moege out there far more deserving of our shills
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Ichijou is simply the most obvious example. You can look at Fate, Madoka, thingy from Dies Irae, and many many more. Japan seems to have no idea how to write a justicefag without trying to drag them down to their level. Like they don't want an idealistic and heroic character to be allowed to exist.
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5th and final append to Sickly days and summer traces released today. A bittersweet ending to one of the best, if not the best, brother sister romances. It's been a fun and memorable ride with Asumi and onii-chan and I'll be looking forward to sister positions next ge
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Truly the pinnacle of Japanese beauty
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Posting low quality bait with Koku's art should be a bannable offense .
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Kek
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To each their own. The ge advertised itself as a pure love story between brother and sister and it accomplished what it set out to do in my eyes.
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13 since the heroine of their last ge was also 13 and the devs drop enough hints for you to piece it together. Final append is also about her dealing with her periods and growing. The description is suggesting it's her first period and 12-13 is usually the average age where girls get their first period
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Your IQ is too low to offend me. Have some more Koku
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Yeah that part was a little annoying with the rng moods but if you save scummed you could unlock everything in one playthrough. Prioritize upgrading the bed asap and save all your appointment delays for tier 4. I also wish oniichan was a bit more sexually aggressive to match the title but overall he was good
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https://vndb.org/v952
>What are you looking for?
something kino can be jop or eop
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Is the twist going to be thatKenichi is hallucinating most of the story? I feel like they're hinting at it a little too much for it to be just that. There has to be something more. Kenichi's drug consumption is very alarming, in any case.
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Those are characters from the first two games which are translated so you have no way of knowing whether it's from the untranslated third game or not.
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Wait, it's actually out WTF???????????? Does it end the story?
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She's just like that.
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It's supposed to. Whether it'll be a proper satisfying ending, we'll see
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Be grateful it ended in a good note. If this was tranime made for normies, the story would be Le misunderstanding for 100+ chapters only for the heroines to have sex with others (tm) at the end and the MC be like "at least she will remember all the good memories we made together"
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Found this on my old laptop. Funny how some of these still aren't out.
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It's on the back-back-back burner since Hooksoft wanted them to release newer stuff instead.
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When are Kagami or Shiravune going to announce it?
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>heroine masturbates to MC fucking another girl in the other room
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You can probably still find justicefag heroines played straight in shoujo stuff, for anything written by men you're right that it's virtually nonexistent. It's not like the only two options for them is to get fucked over by faustian bullshit or get raped (or both)
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Have you ever seen a character that looks just like you in a VN?
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Yes.
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oh boy it's time to read my comfy lump of sugar moege, I sure hope it isn't constant chuuni battles and tragic backstory----
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It's a really good mystery vn.
>why do these gay games always sound like they have great plot?
A lot of them do. If you don't read yaoige you're missing out on some really good chuuni/plot vns.
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Fact: He could solo Reinhard or Gilgamesh.Would probably lose to Chris Valzeride, though.
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Yeah. They even gave her a sprite for this scene that's probably not gonna be used again.
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>tfw hit an extended conversation where they talk about which honorifics they use for who
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For me, it's Kokoto. Minako definitely has some good scenes, though, I'll admit.
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Do what they did in the Sanoba Witch translation and rewrite the entire scene to be about stuffed animals.
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yooo this diddygatari ahh bludd wants to get into an epsteinsuationship with a high schooler
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Seeing the pantyhose stretched like this in an HCG is pretty rare. Usually they just rip it.
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I just made up a stupid nickname and swapped that in. I think NN's done that a few times.
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I hope you fucking burn in hell
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>enemies to lovers shirokami nojya loli baba kitsune
Is this the greatest VN of all time?
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I'm not going to lie, I fucking love D.D., I hope when we finally get Seishun Fragile translated whoever does it does the exact same thing with Riz.
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only if they look like this
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>>558946781
I mean, I haven't. I'm assuming it's a prequel, so it's probably not a problem? But who can say, if it does turn out to be a problem I'll let you know.
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i figure out as much as i can from what the character voices actually say then read the translated text as a support, that way my brain already recognizes the context and can immediately identify whatever stupid fanfic the TL wrote.
Stupid motherfuckers, they think that because they know a language and get paid (little) to do stuff they are suddenly literary geniuses who have the authority to filter or change what the original author said to whatever the fuck they want. It's the epitome of vanity, like a security guard acting important by giving you trouble to get in somewhere, a pig cop pulling you over just because, or a teacher fucking with your grades because he doesn't like you. Such pettiness can be tolerated in small everyday life things, but when it comes to manipulating what other people see or get from someone else's artistic work it's extremely infuriating.
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>game named after her
>precisely zero (0) people liked her over the other heroines
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>>558947214
The boobs are simply too big, steam won't allow it.
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I mean she's the worst girl by a mile, I read her route and I struggle to tell you anything that happens in it.
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i have picked up enough to understand about 70% of spoken speech and can mostly manage with hiragana and katakana, it's just kanji that I really haven't been able to get around learning
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>have alternate outfits for two of the main characters in the VN
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A lot of that game just seems like "the artist wanted to do something for busywork's sakes, but then didn't implement it more beyond a one or two line moment". Mind you, I respect the effort because a lot of VNs are perfectly content to rehash the same sprites wearing the same clothes at all times. But this feels like the opposite side of that spectrum, where they went the extra mile but then didn't really implement all that content enough to justify its purpose.
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You love to see it.
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>>558948113
Eve Bethel is a game where everyone was going all out except for the writer. The artist did such a good job, there's so fucking many CGs and character sprites and they all look great.
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>Blonde meido with a supposedly foul mouth
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Hey, don't bite that hard. Who thought that there'd be blood in my pure yurige that definitely has no darker themes later.
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honestly probably yeah
I think with secret project #2 like seven people will read it and two or three of them will think it's great
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I've read some of it
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I have a backlog you stupid FAGGOT.
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>Shiravune translated an atelier kaguya game and none of you are playing it?
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>She actually said Minesweeper and it's not a localization
>She was just going to grind Minesweeper for all of her summer break
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If Collagen gets a decent sci-fi/cyberpunk/mecha writer to work with I think he'd probably cook up a 4/5 game at the least. Especially if they let him go all out cunny maxing by making the heroine cast all lolis.
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See >>558931547
You can tell because they took out the hyphen in Dracu-Riot to make it seem like they're not a shill.
Because it's a shill trait to always refer to things by their Full Legal Names, they've now adopted the tactic of slight misspelling when they're promoting.
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>Calling the teacher Mommy by accident
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>found out the archetype was just a peaceful diary instead of an epic tome that would let him battle god and promptly defeated by the same tactic he (forcibly in his case) used of having an ally take the hit to create an opening
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I think I might pick up Kinkoi again. I got about half way through years ago, but I got mad because one of the characters acted like a total whore in the sex scenes. But now after playing vanilla moege for a while I'm back in the mood for a girl who acts like a prostitute on the first date. I haven't played the good route that everyone likes yet so might be worth having another go
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/VN/bros I have come asking for guidance, existing any VN series with great story, characters and lore with an end other than Rance?
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Personally I didn't care for most of the normal routes. You can CTRL most of them to unlock the true route (Ria) if you want to. The only one of the normal routes that matters for plot reasons is Sylvie. The fandisc is good and has three more routes.
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Rori(?) goddesswholesome adventures on Logan's sweaty pirate ship. Mite mitai
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Have you read it? MLA is a definite concrete ending of the main story. If you want to you can read Kiminozo beforehand since Muv-Luv references it a lot, but none of the Muv-Luv spinoff games are necessary to read at all.
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If you want to read the main story and get the majority of the references in it, you only need to read Kiminozo (the uncensored patch just got released by the way), Muv-Luv, and then Muv-Luv Alternative. The other stuff that gets referenced is not as important and isn't going to effect your enjoyment of it (and isn't translated anyway). All the spin-off games are just spin-offs.
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https://myanimelist.net/anime/54650/Precure_All_Stars_Movie_F
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What is there that you need to know in order to read Muv-Luv? Honestly nothing. KimiIta introduces Isumi but do you need to read that to read Muv-Luv? No. Honestly you don't even need to read Kiminozo but the references to that are substantial and common enough that I think it's a good idea. There's a difference between things that actually matter and things that don't.
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>KimiIta introduces Isumi but do you need to read that to read Muv-Luv? No.
technically yes because it introduces all the 4 sisters
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TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKE
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>but not any of their other games
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Tell me specifically what about her character that you need to know in order to read Muv-Luv, that is not included in Muv-Luv.
>because it introduces all the 4 sisters
Who do not appear in Muv-Luv at all.
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>Who do not appear in Muv-Luv at all.
isn't michiru in mla?
>Tell me specifically what about her character that you need to know in order to read Muv-Luv, that is not included in Muv-Luv.
i haven't read muv-luv, how would i know. but YOU haven't read kimiita either so neither do you.
stop coping by spreading eop fake news
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>>558970345
>isn't michiru in mla?
see >>558970334
>i haven't read muv-luv, how would i know.
Then there's no point talking to you about it.
>but YOU haven't read kimiita either so neither do you.
I have read Muv-Luv and it tells you the details about her character that are relevant to what is happening in Muv-Luv. The Kiminozo characters have a bunch of vague comments and stuff that only make sense if you've read Kiminozo but with her she just infodumps about her past on you so that you understand it.
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>>558970678
Unless you've read Muv-Luv and actually know how her character gets handled in that game (hell you don't even know what her role in the game is), especially in comparison to how all the Kiminozo characters get handled, there isn't any point talking to you about it.
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>>558971019
bro you are coping, there's no point of talking to you.
you said yourself that michiru is an important character in mla, and she has her own game, kimiita. in case you didn't know, in kimiita you simply pick a heroine at the very beginning and then play her route, so if you keep denying that playing her route alone isn't needed (without having playing it) then you are overdosing on copium
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