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Finally spring edition
[PoE 2]
>Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212
[PoE 1]
Mirage League launches on March 6th
>3.28 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913392
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt
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Marathon killed the Mirage hype
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Now that we decided on totems, which totem build is the best. It can't be fusillade though cause I saw Lily playing that and she's a girl
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You can self-proc that without blocking by Shield Charging into a Hydrosphere with Monastery Bell equipped. It looks like a shield skill so you'd have something like a FB Emperor's Vigilance on your offhand
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post the challenge reward and kirac vault videos!
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>gem is called Righteous Fire
>make it deal anything but fire damage
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>comparison is the thief of joy
>all GGG balance decisions are based on arbitrary comparison of builds they find on twitch and their own retard standards
Truer words have never been spoken. Comparison is absolutely the thief of joy, and GGG is king niggger
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>he is a jingakh
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AG actually killed some of my enjoyment of Minions. I know it is pretty streamlined to build but I didn't use one for a long time, and then when I did my minions did so much better, to the point it felt bad not using it.
So now I just don't play minions.
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>The conversion calculation loops through the source damage types in order, and within each source damage type, Gain as Extra is calculated before Converted to
So just to get this right bros
>100 physical damage hit
>Gain 20% of phys as extra lightning = 20 lightning damage hit
>100% physical to lightning conversion = 100 lightning damage hit
>final hit is 120 lightning damage
is that correct in poe 1
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For me it, Definitely Oak
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I would like them if they dropped more stuff
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https://www.twitch.tv/sheepfarmer/clip/PatientJazzyCatOSfrog-C9hwzHL-y o99Slmu
https://www.twitch.tv/sheepfarmer/clip/PatientJazzyCatOSfrog-C9hwzHL-y o99Slmu
https://www.twitch.tv/sheepfarmer/clip/PatientJazzyCatOSfrog-C9hwzHL-y o99Slmu
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>>558926652
this card gamble is always worth it, and the fat german puts this card in F+ tier
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>>558926682
you lost
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>>558926032
i wish i could copy and paste my poe2 filter to poe1 whilst changing the colour style in 1 and changing its strictness i now have 2 filters to do this for
add maven moans for drops
add colour co-ordination to league mechanics
add specific colour to the currency tiers for the league mechanic this time its light brown
ill see you in 3 days
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>>558926798
this is not a meaningful retort.
i want to play the game. I don't want to make a filter. I have to make a filter so the game is playable.
what's your confusion?
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every filter i make myself before and during the leagues
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>>558927564
i have no idea wtf any of that jazz is stay off the gay board you are turning zesty
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>>558927893
>tranime
whatever newFAG
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I think you have it backwards, the bleed ascendency does nothing for bleed, not the bleed masteries, because you don't take aggravate bleeding on gladiator, you take these masteries. 1 is also defensive, which is a decent mastery point. 3 dot multi is exactly a mastery, idk what your on about there. Crit helps with going perfect agony, which is fine, and the aggravations are all fine?
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>>558926791
from the wiki it doesnt look like they spawn in the wild, he had to have intentionally tried releasing it to kill an enemy right? so he literally suicided by blowing up his own kamikaze rabbit
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It's a boring mechanics that's just "sit around and wait for the mobs to spawn and also they don't drop anything"
it looks like shit
currency shards are shit
it's slow
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>>558928426
>delete molten shell goats
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>jesus christ im actually going to have to go through my whole filter and fix it myself huh
Yes you do and I've had to do this for several years. I always grab his semi-strict filter and go through it myself section by section. There's no other way. It eventually becomes my own strict or uber strict but with many of his hidden cards showing.
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>loot mainly comes from the map monsters and it'll probably scale artifacts/refresh as well.
not the topic at hand, also wrong. >>558931629
oh. you saw.
tujin is a source of free divines. tujin logbooks are the BEST source of exotic coins and his expedition currencies.
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im guessing the FF jewels for level 30 molesters call in body armor are not in demand/cheap?
cant see specifics on poe ninja unless im missing something
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I have {----- THIS MANY -----} Kirac missions in Standard.
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maybe. theres a bunch of juicy new scarabs in 3.28 that all contend for the "invigoration spot", hopefully they hit the mark.
enraged breach
enraged ore thing
>Kalguuran Scarab of Enriching, which increases the amount of Ore gained from Ore Deposits and the Difficulty and Reward of monsters guarding Ore Deposits for every completed Ore Deposit in the area
this new legion scarab which will presumably work with timeless conflict
>The Legion Scarab of Command has been renamed to the Legion Scarab of Treasures, and now grants chests that are broken out a chance for the chests rewards to be applied to the monsters it breaks out, while also making those monsters more difficult and rewarding
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I'm a very special man, anon. Thanks for noticing.
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>Added 10 new Runegrafts that can be found by shipping to ports in Kingsmarch: Runegraft of the Agile, Runegraft of Connection, Runegraft of Consecration, Runegraft of Fury, Runegraft of the Imbued, Runegraft of Rallying, Runegraft of Resurgence, Runegraft of Rotblood, Runegraft of the Spellbound, and Runegraft of Suffering
so what do they do. im all ears
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Weird how /poeg/ suddenly is sad that a league mechanic got deleted which involved:
>invincibility phases
>mandatory stalling in maps
>picking up very small fractions of a currency
Very weird.
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after the jonathan+mark interview with ziz it's immediately obvious who the fucking problem is and it's not mark.
>reminder Jonathan doesn't do Maps at all
>reminder Jonathan only plays the campaign and resets over and over on dev builds
>reminder the ONE build jonathan played from lvl 1 all the way to epilogue was bugged barrage twisters doing 600% more damage which was hotfixed in hours on league launch. game director is literally a retarded bug exploiter who plays his game so little he doesn't realize he's doing exponentially more damage
>reminder that Jonathan admitted he hasn't played PoE1 in years since he started working on PoE2
he doesn't play poe, doesn't even play poe2, and is so out of touch he really thinks a 30 hour campaign every three months for league reset is a good idea.
Mark isn't perfect but ACTUALLY PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME earns you a lot of leeway and goodwill. Remember when Jonathan was asked to stream his own gameplay so we could see "the vision" for "meaningful combat" and ended up backing out and refusing?
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Im going to bed soon recommend me movies to watch before sleeping
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>>558933694
chris wasn't perfect either but he did play the game. jonathan doesn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Dy72vnzyc
>ten fucking years of BAMA being a comfy build
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>>558934094
chris wilson is going on autistic rants about the different balance between base diablo 2 vs lord of destruction 20 years later, you can accuse him of a lot but "not playing ARPGs or being autistic about the genre" isn't one of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3UguCrouE4
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>>558934283
>see chris played poe!! *posts a video about diablo 2*
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>>558933592
jonathan is just embarassingly clueless. hes out of touch. you can see the fire of autism light up in his eyes when he gets asked a technical question but he just doesnt care about the game itself that deeply.
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>you can see the fire of autism light up in his eyes when he gets asked a technical question
he's literally the GGG equivalent of Steve from Digital Extremes; the game immediately improved when he stepped down to exclusively work on the technical side of the game and could gush about all the lighting engine updates and wasn't dragging the game's content development back and forth with whatever caught his attention that week leaving it abandoned afterwards.
Jonathan showed more excitement talking about how he had fun personally coding the Temple in poe2 than he ever did once discussing mapping or the atlas or actual gameplay. Stick him in the autist closet and put mark in charge of both games.
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bleach but shortened
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQJu1XfXe2H-R4afz7CMz-MMXrtuOgHpr
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MYSTERY NIGGAZ
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so mark is our reb? he's not as hot though
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Replica Emberwake providing less DPS than a regular rare ring is just a PoB technicality right? It's registering the DPS as much lower than it actually is because the ignite duration is not quite 1 second? It should be a strict DPS increase.
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>>558934778
>autistic lead dev steps away
>game immediately becomes better
>but slowly begins to degrade into girlbossification and removing all the frictional elements that made it feel like a real game instead of a spreadsheet
it's actually uncanny what the hell
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>we get fat petty kiwis
>Warframers get this
that's it, I'm changing games
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>>558935173
Yep, but Chris didn't pretend he was in charge. He was constantly deferring to other devs in interviews to the point of DevCheck being an emote. Jonathan comes off as a stammering know-it-all in his interviews.
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>>558935438
I alternate between poe and warframe as my main grinding autist timesinks.
if only GGG would let you mating press asala after running enough sanctum like warframe did with Descendia, maybe I'd bother with it past ascending.....
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god i want her to breastfeed me and let me call her my mommy
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>>558936230
i hope so with the previous 2 being pinnacles
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bruh im watching fate strange theres less plot than in john wick 3 virtually every episode is servants fighting for the sake of it without any plot relevance or build up. Theres literally nothing going on other than the fights
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>>558929542
this nigga gets it
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charlie varrick
super fuzz
hot stuff
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Yes, that's why more people play it over poe1
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>>558937681
>saaar pootoo goot rrrright? bettar poowun :^)
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we were talking about the game, and the retarded faggot came back to post steam charts
you genuinely hope you kill yourself
your life is worthless
you're worthless
your exist to steal oxygen
the world will be a better place after you hang yourself
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>>558937029
Gameplay wise? It is fun. Graphically it is great. They have done a bit better with build variety and buildcraft too.
Endgame is objectively horrible. It is not worth playing because the only viable "farm" is the temple (which is terribly annoying to set up) and maybe abyss spam. It is getting an endgame overhaul and needs it even more than PoE1. PoE1's endgame was good, but stale. PoE2's has never been good.
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All of these Pathfinders are using Corrupted Soul + Supreme Decadence but I have no clue why they are doing that over just using Burden of Truth which would function exactly the same. You then don't have to dedicate your timeless jewel slot for a weak keystone. Just for the slightly better recovery?
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I genuinely wish that PoE2 kept its niche and they stayed the course with the difficulty of 0.1
Aside from the many bugs/issues, I actually thought the difficulty of 0.1 was great. I had to fight Geonor like 5 times and fully understand all of his skills and abilities and it was the fucking act 1 boss. He felt more like a boss fight than anything in PoE1 except for the pinnacle bosses. I remember having trouble in Act 2 and actually grinding out like 2 levels and some gold to get some gear since I was falling behind on resists. It was sweet.
>But do you wanna do that every league?!?!
0.1 was always the hardest the campaign was gonna be. Natural power creep from leagues, new skills, classes, and general balance would have always made it easier over time. Now PoE2's campaign is just as easy as PoE1, just slower.
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>>558938757
I play both PoE1 and 2. I have 4.3k hours in PoE1, and nearly 600 in 2. I think I got a pretty good idea of what is going on in both games.
I think PoE2 is gonna be great but it is going to take a long time to get there. Even 1.0 will probably not be great. I am betting by the middle of 2027 PoE2 will be in a state where people like it.
Keep in mind, part of that is that PoE1 and 2 now have dedicated teams instead of people flip flopping back and forth. I think this will naturally lead to both games developing clear identities that will benefit both in the long run. That is why I said the middle of 2027 cause I think it will probably take at least a full year + change to get it to that state.
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>>558939083
PoE2 is fun as an actual action game for the most part, at least in the campaign. People don't like the end game that much, but the actual campaign is fun.
However, I don't know if you wanna play right now because in like 1.5 months they're releasing the 0.5 update which is gonna change a lot of shit.
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>>558939083
Sorry, I failed to answer your question and yes the campaign and mapping can be done without looking up a guide as long as you're not a fucking retard.
>Hmmm... I am using maces... armor... and fire skills... if I get those on the passive tree...
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
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Duelist is being saved for the 1.0 release, which will also have Templar.
The newest holy skills in PoE1 are based on the new templar skills in PoE2, but Jonathan himself said that not having swords in the game before 1.0 will be a mistake. 0.5 will be the end game rework + new ascendancies + league mechanic and then after that is 1.0 with the finished campaign, gladiator + templar, and a new league mechanic.
1.0 is being announced at Exilecon.
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This.
It's one of the good things about them locking down builds and forcing certain combinations. It's a lot harder to fuck up and not hit damage or survivability breakpoints to be able to comfortably progress.
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>>558939251
>the campaign is fun
Act 1 is good and flows nicely and everything else afterwards is just awful. Having to constantly go back to the caravan and ship in act two and four means you can never get into a flow state where you chain zones together. I don't enjoy moving at a snail's pace through massive zones. The campaign feels like playing through Diablo 2's act three for 8 hours.
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Act 3 is the only one I dislike. I never considered Act 2 or 4's central location to be an issue considering I'd go back to town frequently anyways. However, I do agree that I think 4 could do with the ability to travel to the different islands with less clicks or something.
I also do admit it is weird that we have one act with a moving caravan and then one with a boat that you travel around on, which are kind of similar. But I never found either act to really be frustrating. It is really just Act 3 for me that sucks, which it seems is just a thing for every ARPG I guess.
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how long does the entire poe 2s campaign last?
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Travelling through the world in poe1 is more immersive than poe2. You're actually on a journey in 1. Reminds me of DS1 which i think was the first game to really pitch that. 2 feels way more downscale. Only act 1 is really interconnected and the map being pseudo generated makes it feel small. Act 2 and 4 feel more like maps because they're spiritually disconnected.
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PoE1 really begins to lose that same feeling starting in even Act 2. The bandit quest feels like a really bad, video gamey justification for making you run around in different directions and going up side paths and shit. I am not saying Act 2 ruins it, but you're already getting to that sort of stuff then.
Also we all know that act 4 and onwards sucks.
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Did the devs mention if other skill gems in the same link set also get supported by imbued level 1 supports?
ie. if my Stone Golem gets Minion Life imbued will my Chaos Golem linked to SG get affected by Minion Life too?
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i want to like it but then i think about it and dominating would jsut be a straight upgrade? Many more minions with aoe slams, rare giving auras and vaal dominating being pretty crazy
Sure i'll use it lvling on my way to dominating but once i'm done no looking back
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not playing that but it looks like corrupted soul + what's on the replica soul tether gives more life as extra ES than the Burden of truth
and they all want to use elegant hubris for the endurance charge generation on hit so they can't get corrupted soul off glorious vanity to use together with burden of truth for even more life as extra ES
and i know that endurance charge generation when you get hit is comfy
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berzerker is the best by far. intimidating cry is the biggest damage boost in the game. zerker gets its bonus on every attack, and gets to idle at max rage.
the annoying part of the skill will be upkeeping power charges. chest eldritch implicit and power charge on crit should be enough
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This but Holy Hammers
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>SB Hiero buffedHELLO MAHBOYS
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>Totem Placement speed now also scales the speed at which Totems emerge
HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
You have no idea how long I have wanted this
Still a verry glasscanon build but damn thats a nice change
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You are playing the totem meta, right?
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How do we feel about Greater Trinity fellas?
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>>558945006
>totem placement speed
>now affects totem placement speed
what.
did it just do nothing this whole time??
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>>558945990
i get that, but emerge speed is this totally separate thing that's not placement?
why the hell is emerge speed even a stat
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Totem placement speed affects how long your character is stuck in place while summoning a totem. Now Totem placement speed also affects the speed at which totems sprout from the ground to when they start their attack/cast animation, which was unaffected by that stat previously
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the placement speed is the animation on your character, the emergence speed is the animation on the totem. Before you could get your placement speed to under 0.25s but the emergence speed was always around 0.6s. Now you can get that under 0.3s easily which makes totems like 40% snappier.
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>instaid of 0.35 sec its going to be 0.25sec with heiro
Not a great buff anon
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>>558945894
Depends on the build. Reservation efficiency is very good. Anointing a charge on charge stackers saves a lot of points. Getting nodes like Testudo for block is very good, too. Something like Inquisitor that ignores resistance isn't going to benefit from an extra curse much at all.
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>>558946102
you could make max totems in a second, but it always took an extra second for them to start firing. it added at least a whole minute to every map. now it's only like half a minute loss per map in exchange for retard high damage
a bit better at endgame content too where before they would get insta popped in that 1 second it took them to wake up
we'll need to see if nightmare maps fuck them or not or self cast is still better endgame.
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>https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers?items=Foulborn+Rathpith+Globe&s kills=Righteous+Fire&sort=life
Check yourself. The guy with the most life is running The Apostate, but Kaom's Heart seems more popular.
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>>558946586
>an extra minute when maps took a minute without them
>buffs only make it 30% faster
>in a mapping league
Still not worth it. totems were fine week 1 in merc because standing on the same screen as a boss was suicide. Once they got nerfed there was no reason to stay with the stick summoners.
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thanks anon
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>>558947204
freeze, easily
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUGx5zc0rw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUGx5zc0rw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUGx5zc0rw
HOLY FUCK ITS UP
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>>558947337
if freeze is so good then why does nobody use this shirt
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How does global chat work in PoE 2? Am I only talking with people in whatever league I choose, or am I talking with people in all of the leagues at the same time? Basically, is global just one chat or are there multiple global chats?
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>md5
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>wordfilter
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>pants
absent.
>pob
bait of the highest order. its poeg time
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>girllbossification
Why undermine your entire point with this? In what way is PoE2 a "girlboss" game? Because the main antagonist is some whore who is literally called a whore? Because Atziri? Alva? Literally just returning characters from PATH OF EXILE 1?
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I am actually in complete agreement that "YOU STREAM THE CAMPAIGN!!" is such a fucking embarrassing thing to say. Mainly because anyone who is whining about the campaign after 0.1 is legitimately just bad. Like you just suck at the game. You don't know how to build a character, you don't know how to identify good items, you don't know how to trade or use vendors or gamble. The game was neutered after 0.2 and anyone who seriously thinks the campaign has to be even easier just needs to fucking leave.
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>>558949494
There's a dumb moment with Asala stealing your kill, but otherwise he's just schizophrenic. I would argue the biggest problem with its plot is that Sin's actions make absolutely no sense. Casual time travel is also mega dumb even though Doryani himself is cool.
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>>558949494
The Maraketh are pretty girlbossy but they're fucking evil as fuck so I let it slide for now
However I have a bad feeling about this new "sister" of Innocence and Sin.
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>>558949767
She doesn't steal your kill. If you read the dialogue she actually is giving him a warrior's death as a way to try to make peace with them. The entire point is that they basically just killed him and left him to rot in the desert which is like the ultimate insult in their culture. She does it because she is the queen or whatever. If you did it then it kind of undermines that.
Really the dumb part of it is that he... stabs himself? I don't get that part. He like goes to throw something and hits himself and then she cuts off his head.
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>>558949994
Yeah I forgot about the part where you go back the caravan and she tells everyone she did it by herself and she actually puts you in a chastity cage and makes you watch her finger blast the slave chick. It's fucking crazy they put that in the game.
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>>558950058
In no way are the Maraketh depicted as good, they're just generally aligned with you because their enemy is trying to use the beast and you're trying to stop it. Even in PoE1 the Maraketh weren't great. I think most of the cast react to the slave caravan with disdain except for the Witch who just thinks it is inefficient.
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>>558950214
Might be good with the new not-archmage cold support gem to deal with mana cost. This would make it so you can roll a mana flask with a ton of recovery without having to worry about rolling for the Enduring mod.
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>>558950173
>Act 3 is about Alva (from PoE1) and you going to recruit Doryiani who joins the team and literally helps save your life
>Act 4 is about a guy getting corrupted and then saved after almost killing his daughter
>Guy isn't even evil and is right about the foreigners coming and fucking everything up
>Everyone seems to team up at the end of Act 4 to go kick ass together in Act 5, including the men
The only thing you can possibly misinterpret is Act 2 if you read 0 dialogue or lore entries. PoE1 had Piety as the main antagonist for a while and then you help her kill a man. Hell, PoE1 has way more anti-man dialogue than PoE2. Ranger is a straight up man hating lesbian in PoE1 and Witch is not much better. Ranger is actually way more chill about men in PoE2.
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I was thinking just regular archmage maybe with unleash. Agnostic, mana extraction and the runegraft that give arcane surge regen rate. MoM and arcane cloak to round out defense, mana and life on block to really go over.
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Everytime i look into a totem build i also see some soul mantle + 2x kikazaru, times has changed since then I assume.
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>>558951178
You're just retarded. It is a total noncomplaint
>UGH WOW OKAY I HAD TO CLICK ON HER FOR THE BOSS FIGHT TO END
If you don't care about the lore at all, which completely justifies what happens, then why are you so asshurt about her 'stealing' the kill? If you care about the actions of the character, you should care about the lore. You basically just want to ignore the dialogue while simultaneously getting asshurt as if it matters.
Every piece of dialogue in PoE2 could be replaced with the word nigger and it wouldn't change the actual gameplay, now would it? The boss fight does not have a girlboss meter that you need to fill to end it. It is not a situation where female characters can kill him but males cannot. It is merely flavor.
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everyone is slurping totems now
totems feel like bait
are they bait?
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>>558951913
Totems have always been good but have always been a particular playstyle that you need to enjoy or at least tolerate. There is a natural delay betwee:
>Click totem skill
>Totem has to pop out of the ground
>Totem then uses its skill
>Skill then has to hit
There is just a delay that people dislike. it is the same with traps or mines. If you are okay with that delay (which got improved this league) then they are very strong and generally cheap to build as no one likes totems.
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>>558951669
>wow just wow, just because she finished the thing off that you worked to beat doesn't mean she stole your kill!
You put the effort into beating it. She killed it when it was at 1hp (and you have no choice but to let her do it). She stole your kill.
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>>558951893
Its actually better than astral projector because it has increased aoe and not less but the only thing i could think of doing with it is earthquake totem or whatever its called. I did pyroclast in keepers and the slight delay on projectiles hitting ended up feeling lame
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>>558952043
Do you care that Zana is the one to banish the Elder? No, you don't because it is just some flavor at the end of the fight.
If you care about "kill stealing" then you care about the lore/story and as such should recognize that they gave good justification for it and the entire fucking story of the act is centered around it. Realistically, I don't care about the lore. However, I am just mindblown that someone would apply political schizoism to PoE, the game where
>Nigger_Killer_69 is the first to reach Ghetto Map!
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how feasible is this?
can chief even league start? i dont wanna do it if its unfun
but if stacking poisons with bladeflurry kills bosses fast then why not ?
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>>558953120
Because PoE1's power creep is out of control. Without exaggeration, I know for sure that all of the ubers go down by the end of the first weekend and, genuinely, they might be dying day 1 or like day 1.5
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>>558953324
>avoids answering the questions and wont explain anything to people who arent in the know
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>>558953526
>>558953537
BUT SPICYSUSHI IS THE MIRROR GUY
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Did you ever actually listen to what the fallen from act 1 say?
“We jack off”
“Die mother fucker”
“Rack a knee, shoe”
Some of the lines sound REALLY funny dude. Anyways I’m farming nm diablo on single player rn. Just got two weapon upgrades from one kill. My ladder paladin is already boring me, spellcasters aren’t as fun as melee is imo. But there’s like no way to compete against paladin, so I always just stand around in my shiny new sword and armor that I traded over. But on single player I’m getting sick upgrades and doing like 15 minute sanctum clears. I’m trying not to play poe again I hate that game. I hate trading i think, I did it way too much. Its not even a game it’s like a full time job I end up spending like 5 hours every day collecting huge e money.
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>>558953638
Games are fun when there is some kind of challenge. Treating every league start like a speedrun is pretty cringe. Player power needs to get toned down so there can be meaningful experiences in the game.
Yeah, I want high power level and screen clearing too, but maybe not by like act 7, yeah?
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>>558953638
Poe was successful because it was free. It’s a cheap Diablo 2 clone. Diablo series > poe series. Apparently Poe costs more than d2 to produce but I think chat gpt fucked up, the quality difference is too great.
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Does anyone else get annoyed at POE2's outbursts of fedora tipping
It's not nuanced in the slightest and just immediately takes me back to the 2000's where that sort of pseud shit was rampant on the internet
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>>558953638
He thinks because some RMTing autistic metaslave poopsocker groupfaggot streamer kills Kitava in 4 hours it's okay to obliterate an original homebrew build with 700k dps and 20k ehp. Blanket nerfing, aka, lazy balancing because ggg doesn't actually play their own game, they just watch others play on twitch like the cucks in this general.
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>>558953832
>dude, i just WANT to grind 25 hours for an item that only drops from this one specific boss that takes gorillion combos and 30 minutes on average to complete and it adds +2 TO STRENGTH, THAT'S INSANE
>>558953834
>chat gpt
lmao good morning saar
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>>558952254
you can make a poison gen cry build sure but if you want to do his 100% afk thing, it's just not going to work. It requires way too much recovery and damage mitigation from grafts. You would 100% die to the dots without it
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>>558954079
ok sorry
just looking into interesting builds
also was looking at static strike builds because you can snapshot the generals cry and ambush buffs on it and the spark stays attached to your generals cry on the floor for double dipping mby? i dunno
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>>558953997
Yeah gpt has been helping me in Diablo a lot, it makes mistakes sometimes though but overall it’s pretty decent at planning builds and providing suggestions for how to increase my barbarians ilvl. As this class is extremely hard, I’m like 35 hours into this bitch and still doing p3 nm. My sorc just runs to hell and never stops. Way different game playing barbarian
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>>558954073
>uber bosses going down day 1 to gear gambled and spawned from a tree
you don't play the game and it shows
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please i hope youre joking
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I do not understand it either. Every other streamer is like
>and then use rolling magma blah blah blah blah
I'll use fucking self cast arc over rolling magma.
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>>558954797
Pyroclast Mine looks like the obvious Reliquarian starter that doesn’t need any uniques (Victario-Mystic Refractor-Astral Projector).
Then maybe selfcast or ballista KF (Kiloava or Brass Dome - Grace of the Goddess - Warped Timepiece)
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>>558955608
>mines
>summons
guy
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Is the Mirage league mechanic time sensitive in any way like Breach or Legion? Could a slow zdps build get full rewards?
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>>558956382
Yeah. Hell you can probably anoint it first, synth it, it'll keep the anoint despite having a new implicit (works like that on other items that transform), then you craft it.
Gonna be pretty interesting for stat stack builds that weren't using MB to begin with.
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>starter
>what you think you should be starting instead for optimal performance, but don't want to
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>>558956503
Annointing stuff is content bloat. When I loot an axe in Diablo 2, that’s my weapon now. That’s the entire weapon. I don’t have to sharpen it, put some gems in the hilt, give it to Granny Smith to bestow her magical powers into the steel. Like they do this now with all the games where they just add way too much pointless shit that doesn’t even change anything or provide new ways to play because you always just kite and shoot shit. Another Diablo 2 kill and he didn’t drop anything. Shit it’s designed to clear in 2 minutes and I take 20. Gonna be here awhile
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CHOOSE ONE LEAGUE TO DELETE
AND ONE LEAGUE TO BRING BACK FROM THE GRAVEYARD
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>>558956774
Gonna do ehit slayer.
The ignore cold resist node in breachlord bloodline is really good but then you need to get impact from forbidden jewels and wear two cryo rings which means no taming no unseen hue.
I don't know whether it's a claw angle or if it's something goofy like varunastra or frostbreath or paradoxica.
I think there's a good fusillade build hiding in reliquarian but I don't want to gamba on it without knowing the nodes, and I especially don't want to try to get a fractured wand without tree.
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>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THEY NERF THE BEST SKILLS IN THE GAME THAT TRIVIALIZES EVERYYTHING I CAN'T PROGRESS!!!
Literally get these dad gamers out of here. No PoE fan wants the game to become easier and more casual friendly lmao. It is already baby tier.
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GGG only made 2 mistakes:
1. Not nerfing ES enough
2. Not buffing enough bad skills
The OP skills needed to get nerfed, ES needed stronger nerfs, but there is no reason for 90% of the skills to have a 0.1% play rate on level 80+ characters.
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You've heard of suffixes and prefixes but what if we have midfixes
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>>558957045
Honestly? Delirium. I hate Delirium. It was such a mistake to put into the game. I like cluster jewels and shit, not talking about that, but turning maps into grey blobs that somehow lowers my FPS on a 9800x3D is absurd.
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>>558957592
I was gonna start it for fun, but then I started trying to envision what content I'd do with it and became less sure. On guardian you'll probably still be able to do t16 strongboxes if it's bad, right?
I think a lot depends on how it interacts with multistrike and extra strike targets
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>>558957064
4s bosses aren't a DPS benchmark because genuinely any archetype and meme skill can clear them pretty quickly if you build it ok, but once the game actually starts testing your DPS, RF isn't really all there.
It's just a shitpost image though, dw about it too much.
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aaaaaaand the meta shake up
is gone
same meta for 5+ years
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>>558956774
>starter
holy hammers, dunno if I'll do inquisitor or slayer yet I'm pretty new to the game so I'm not quite sure what the established metas are
>what you think you should be starting instead for optimal performance, but don't want to
no idea, I've only really played 1 league for a decent length and I ended up quitting because I was sick of not having stash tabs. I've since bought PoE2 so I didn't feel like I was getting ripped off for stash tabs, so I very much have absolutely no idea what is good or not.
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>alva, einhar and jun dont get recreated by mirage
Uhh so leaving alva and jun aside, how the fuck are you meant to target harvest beasts now? I assumed it was tied with the mirage mechanic, im guessing its astrolabes now or whats going on?
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>>558959972
It is also in a way better part of the tree. You can easily get spell suppress, go for 65/65 block, or maybe even try to get some Armor/EV and go for perseverance memes. You are close to axe nodes and the crit sword nodes. It is just a very strong part of the tree and a very strong ascendancy that is good for melee. Also you're in a good position to get frenzy charges if you wanna go for masterful form (which is really good).
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>>558959851
https://pobb.in/-9Cjm_-a0B0m
then take this
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>starter
jugg sunder into vig strike childhood trauma stack, flawed refuge, divine flesh, bound by destiny, Veil of the Night, doppelganger
>what you think you should be starting instead for optimal performance, but don't want to
shield crush slayer
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>>558960604
You take Resolute Technique for Accuracy(you'll be pathing that way for Armor/ES nodes and a cluster jewel anyways) and then Spiritual Command for attack speed. As long as you have good defense(which is very easy to get with Guardian), you'll be fine.
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>>558960604
We discussed this yesterday already
Spiritual command passive node makes it so increases and reductions to minion attack speed applies to you aswell, so you can just focus on that and general attack speed
Spiritual aid makes it so that increased minion damage applies to you and minions, so you mostly focus on increased minion damage
Solving clear is just socketing ancestral call support, should apply to both your hammer minions and yourself, which should instantly feel good clear. Anoint siones, should apply to both you and minions
We're getting a templar cluster for accuracy
For tankyness just grab a shield, use a 1 handed mace
Since it seems like it will function like an animate guardian so you can wear chains of command also to improve clear, also lets you get Farrul bloodline with primal roar for up to 80% increased attack speed if you dont want to go clusters with minion attack speed
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>>558960989
Phys mace is lategame. Recombinating triple T1 ele mace should be completely trivial
Infact i recombinated several T1 phys axes last league in week 1, its really not a big deal, just takes a lot of alterations and bases
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>>558957045
expedition, they clutter the map so much
>bring back
tota. I never had so much fun and anguish. Both with succccc and then trying desperately to kill turtles with moon sized HP
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>explain to me why ele hit slayer is bait.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1qruwm8/comment/o2 r79mc/?context=3
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>>558961337
It's probably gonna be real good. If it's not then you have a lot you can respec to like bannerman or another flavor of slayer.
I'm gonna start after the weekend and check ninja to see how people solve ailments and increased damage.
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It's so much easier to scale melee damage and get good tank at the same time too. Meanwhile selfcast spells are almost universally garbage, bowniggers are paper, and the good ranged builds are multimirror territory
And even in multimirror territory, melee wins. Accuracy and armor stackers are arguably the best builds in the game by far right now
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>>558961794
Melee isnt strictly bad but its not as brainless as ranged. Honestly i will never forget playing TS in affliction, that shit was like the peak brainless gameplay ive had in PoE, with melee you have to aim and think about your position all the time
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Do seperate charge calculations work in tandom, as in can you get two charges in one attack with them?
Like say I have a charge on crit gem but also have this shitty staff, if I get knockback and the 10% triggers, could I also chain that with the charge on crit for 2 per attack? Or is it always capped to one per skill use no matter the source?
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>>558962980
>A special limitation applies to Endurance, Frenzy, and Power charge gain from hits with skills: most skills are limited to granting 1 of each type of charge per skill use.[3]
I would assume so, even if they are generated from different sources, if they are generated by the same skill usage event then you are limited to 1
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>>558962980
I think using a zdps unique on a skill that doesn't have assrape numbers (assuming it's not super easy to gigaoverlap) is bait.
I'm probably just gonna try rare wep+romira's early, then transition to mob mentality.
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the buffed a lot of melee skills recently and have been buffing mana costs, and early game vendor recipes for spellcasters.
also they dragged minions down over several patches.
melee is also still giga shit if its actual melee strike and not 'melee' lighting strike, slam etc
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>>558963092
Man that sucks ass. I can't think of any good ways of getting inf charges for Holy Hammers. There's the crappy vol armor but that needs multiple enemies for it to be decent. There's some charge on block but if I wanted to wait around for enemies to hit me I'd use retaliations kills so that'd dumb too.
They're making me need a second skill and that's gay as fuck.
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>I didn't think that worked from auto exerted ones
it says "Warcries have 5% Chance to grant an Endurance, Frenzy or Power Charge per Power", not 'warcries you use' or other such wording that's normally used.
I'm gonna log in and check.
>And does it give all 3 or just a random 1 each time?
random each time but an AE build has a bajillion warcries going off and if you're near a rare or unique enemy or a bunch of enemies, the chance to get one is pretty high. you won't spend that many with a build that builds for overexertion.
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Did a little glance on support gems that don't scale/scale secondarily past lvl1
PCoC and Endurance charge on melee stun are the 2 big ones that people are talking about.
Charged Mines is another huge one with people play GC and Exsang.
There are the ones that add utility like Fortify or Maim, Culling Strike is universally good, Withering Touch for chaos skills.
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>>558965004
No i think he's wrong. If its limited to mine skills and cant be support other skills, it wont be able to imbue on anything other than mines. Yes im aware most skills can be turned into a mine skill with another support but i doubt that means charged mines can roll on anything other than actual mine skills
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>>558964719
Returning Projectile support barely has any scaling, too. Greater Volley or Arrow Nova support will be nice for CA. Feeding Frenzy looks nice on minions especially if you're running Dark Monarch and phys to lightning support should be good with Absolution.
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Yeah, running 2 autoexerted warcries has given me 2 different charges in one cry proc just now.
I'll say though, this will probably not give perfect uptime if you're spam attacking, unless you're using infinite power, multiple clusters or insane warcry cdr. I'm totally ok with making that compromise cuz I'll probably just play it like a regular slam zerker and make every attack count, but it's something to consider if you want to build it for faster attacking.
Pretty sure that if you combine at least 1 Mob Mentality on a warcry-based char, battlemage's BO of static with PC on hit, and then 1 power charge on kill line for clear and assmark for bosses, you'll probably have good enough uptime.
Also, just giving up on crit and going Romira might be a much cleaner solution for this skill, especially on marauders.
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>>558965527
Which is a pretty fucking retarded limitation.
Just randomly gimp those builds that use 2 main skills on their 6 links.... because why? Do they actually think people would use more than 2 skill gems in the same chest?
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>>558926791
this guy used to be fun to watch
now he's just an objectively worse version of asmonslop
react for ~3 hours
stall for another ~3 hours
content window ~15 min before ending stream
what happened to this guy. it was embarrassing to watch him yesterday during the marathon #ad
>shoutout to bungie for sponsoring the stream
multiple times including at the end of the stream
>arc raiders is dogshit, marathon is where it's at!
when someone he was playing with mentioned arc raiders
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>>558966086
Yeah i guess thats true, didnt think of the edge case uniques
But im not certain stuff like raising level of socketed support gems actually applies to the imbued support gems, since theyre not actually socketed
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Guardian only gets 1 of those for free at the time i think, unless ive misunderstood that node. You want all 3 at all times, since you're stacking attack speed and you have 4 separate attacks
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Will greater volley (and GMP) exist as a non exceptional? Them mentioning spell echo on pic makes me think no and I imagine you won't be able to coin exceptionals.
Good catch on Return Proj and Feeding Frenzy. Arrow nova, 15% less idk fine I guess. 19% phys as extra is a lot on the conversion gem.
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>>558966913
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>>558967118
Do we know what the hallowed flame buff does already, since Supreme Truth is gonna apply it. Wait, can your animated weapons then apply it, too? Since it won't have the restrictions of the support gem.
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>>558967021
2 handed phys mace (all T1 + T1 atk speed) gets you 672 flat, 1,71 attacks per second, 1148 DPS
1 handed phys mace gets you 397 flat, 1,76 attacks per second, 700 DPS
Difference: 64% less damage
2 handed seems obviously better before you take into account auras
With auras (anger and wrath), you get 441 flat, so
2 handed: 1903 DPS
1 handed: 1475 DPS
Difference: 30% less damage
You wouldnt sacrifice 30% less damage for getting your shield back?
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I see one-handed maces with 800 dps on trade that have t2 and t3 rolls on them. No one actually bothers to craft them, but now there is a reason. Aegis Aurora is too comfy to give up. As long as Holy Strike's numbers are decent, you should be alright.
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>>558967408
Thinkin on it, if the holy strikes can trigger on hit skills on the weapon, essence of feared boom mace will be the play, especially if it's a generals cry sitch and the cooldown is per summoned strike weapon and not global.
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Im guessing those are elemental, tho, the more phys you have the better for hatred
Ive not done the numbers for elemental maces, admittedly the calculation will come out worse because the numbers will be higher and the auras will have less of an effect
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my gut tells me they're going to fuck with map drops now
like its going to be MUCH harder than before to sustain, because of the player selection ability
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>>558968013
Issue is if you have literally no phys hatred is completely worthless from the relic. I mean its 43% gain cold as extra, doesnt matter that you cant scale it thats a huge multiplier you shouldnt just ignore
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>>558967882
I honestly dont know. Maybe staves are worth it, but shield is just too comfy man people underestimate shield so much. You're playing a close ranged strike build. If you aint stacking strength or some shit like that, you need some tankyness and shield is the easiest way to get that
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>>558968909
https://poedb.tw/us/Ghastly_Eye_Jewel#ModifiersCalc
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>>558969202
Yeah, then they dont apply to you, i guess you can do that, im guessing the hammers will end up doing more damage than you combined, idk if its a 75/25 split or how its going to end up, depends on the numbers on the skill gem, but yeah that works
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haha there is going to be a 2nd patch note with the real buffs and reworks right bwos lol ggg is so funny they want to make us think keepers league but shitty is all we are gonna get so we get extra hyped when the real changes come in hahaha
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>>558963396
>melee is also still giga shit if its actual melee strike
That's not really true nowadays with how easy splash, extra strikes and explosions are. Melee strikes are not really worse than most spells and projectiles at clear, and with splash overlaps from multiple strikes they can handle tanky rares way better than most spells. Sure you're not offscreening shit, but it's a far cry from how shitty strikes were at clearing back in the day
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>>558970973
some looked really poop tho like that graft one for brands, so I just hope they're gonna add more every league
>>558970909
i really don't see a point in running destructive play anymore now
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>>558968492
nah, I'm >>558961974
Just not gonna be heisting this league. Maybe I'll do Ultimatum/Ritual considering I'll be fairly tanky.
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>>558971272
nigga what is this hyperbole I'm just saying some look really poop like the brand recall one that gives you the esh graft shit just looks really meh and useless, some of the exceptional gems looked fun though like the hextoad shit
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>>558971712
>ground loot league
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>>558973029
are you retarded?
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>>558972000
Really? 'cause the opposite makes much less sense to me. Having a mirage exclusive reward window would be a nightmare to balance considering it's gonna be highly random how many rituals you're gonna have in your mirage. Seems to me it would be more likely to just give you the tribute from your mirage for your regular ritual, maybe at a reduced rate and as your mirage exclusive reward just have ritual monsters drop some exclusive omens. Maybe some mirage related ones that guarantee specific mirage mods in your next map.
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>>558973116
I dont know the details i just know theres always some very expensive cluster jewel bases it changes week to week. Its not just about the number of allocated passive skills or the enchantment its also about the item level
He doesnt target farm them he just farms cluster jewels in general with delirium, and sells the good ones and hiding the trash ones in his filter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEcYqZdTwz8&t=1s
At 4 minutes you can see the prices from last league
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Still different quality effect and nothing about 4th level.
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>>558973248
Snoob is honestly kinda kino
>unapologetic "tips fedora" way of talking despite being a grown adult
>wanks to Lance on stream and somehow still has a content making career
>is basically just boomer fubgun in terms of build quality, you get exactly what it says on the tin
>makes ruepstein fans seethe
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>>558973435
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Awakened_Multistrike_Support
>same qual
>stronger than awakened multistrike with less levels
>only 10% increased cost multi
retarded niggers like you who can't read are probably the same retards who cry about ground loot
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chat is this true
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>>558939070
Poe2 apes too much from d2 in a crude imitation to be truly memorable or good. The story is trite, copy/pasted garbage straight from d2 and the gameplay is some of the worst the genre has to offer. It's modernized animations and graphics sure, but that isn't going to save it from being narratively and spiritually bankrupt.
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>>558974919
Instead this time around the league mechanic remixes your other league mechanics, so it requires you to have some kind of atlas setup to make the most of it instead of being just something extra the maps are gonna have.
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They have been part of the core beast pool since at least settlers
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>>558938006
Friendly reminder to 2rists that both free weekends for poop2 had basically no new players trying the game
Everyone who wanted to play it already bought it.