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emergency bake edition
>News
Victory Rewards Chest Event! (March 1st, 2 am - March 10th 8 pm UTC)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KGNXH9X0PJYA6RCH2SD6QJ KV
Apocalypse Pact Release Missions! (Feb 26th until March maint)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KHNM60PCS1D66E5TQ3C0BK GX
Battle Dungeon! (Feb 26th until March maint)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KGGWD8NWACYSJ9FK1M37Q9 HP
>6th Card Set: Apocalypse Pact
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/apocalypse-pact/
[YouTube] 【Shadowverse: Worlds Beyond】第6弾カードパック「Apocalypse Pact / アポカリプス・パクト」 (embed)
>Resource Guide (decks, tier lists, guilds, stickers, and leader trailers)
https://rentry.org/svg-resources
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https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/
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https://svgdb.me
Shadowverse: World's Beyond Card Database
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Be kind to eachother
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I already hate this deck
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Is there a leader that would make you play a class that you hate?
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>>559050751
i've been contemplating starting all over again with a shymm starter
she sorta replaced my desire for catriona since that NPC is never ever coming
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>>559050743
both of these were in the same fucking game
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Amulet dropped me to topaz for the first time since release. Literally every single card needs a +1 buff. Stuff like
>give wards to the 2/4 bane aura jobber and the 9pp
>give everything engage to advance countdown
>make everything heal for 3 instead of 2
>make scripture do 3 AOE dmg
>make the bane rush guy have 4+ def so he doesn't job to an evolved fairy
>make the ping card 0 cost and/or do 3 damage
All of the above and this sad deck would still only become ""OK"". What on earth were these devs thinking?
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It has everything that's aggravating and frustrating to play against. Board spam, pp cheat, storm, direct face damage, healing, and RNG. It encapsulates every reason as to why witch is the most dishonest class in the game since its inception.
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>buff forest four straight times only because they didn't print them good cards
>then suddenly they printed good cards for them
Nerfs only are better for the game, not buffs. Nerfs can be reverted. All they had to do to make Forest not shit for 3 expansions was to nerf Norman.
Zwei buffs could be reverted and Portal wouldn't care anways.
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They didn't even print good forest cards they printed good evo cards. The actual class is completely irrelevant and they could have given the exact same cards to any other class. There is nothing forest about evo forest.
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enroached world feels like a sleeper card
there's something nice about yoinking out the answer from a randomly transformed card. gives petdecks the ability to fish for finishers and feels like a tablet sidegrade
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>>559051103
I was about to post a long rant about it so this comes in handy
I really wonder what they were thinking when designing the new amulet deck
This is the worst case of a badly designed archetype I remember seeing, og SV included
So many things are wrong with this deck, and all of them could have been easily avoided or fixed beforehand if they tested the deck just a bit:
-Kandima's effect being sevo instead of evo. This one didn't even need testing, anyone who had Aria's buff in mind could predict it before the expansion even got released. Instead, the deck has to rely on cards like Salefa to survive early aggression, which don't help your gameplan
-Lyanthoth being too slow compared to the finishers of the other decks, he shouldn't be a 9pp card when he has no ward and can't even otk the turn after
-Too few methods of destroying your own amulets on board outside of Skullfane, which means you end up most of the time with a board full of amulets that you can't interact with and have to pass your turn to not get boardlocked the turn after. This is made worse by Kandima's amulet destruction effect being sevo instead of evo and by something else incredibly stupid:
-How and according to what logic they decided to NOT give engage to 5 of the 6 amulets Haven got this expansion when EVERY SINGLE HAVEN AMULET until now had engage (pic related). There was just no reason to change that, engage is one of the best mechanics we got in WB because it makes amulets much more flexible since you can interact with them once on board. But now that we finally got an actual amulet deck they decided to remove that mechanic?? And it's not like the crystallize package we got is broken, they are ok at best stats and effect wise so it wouldn't suddenly give you a strong board early game just because you could engage them, it would just make the deck more interactive and less reliant on Skullfane
Why would they want to nerf a deck this much is beyond me
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reconnect...
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>Me and my favorite Shadowbanons
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>>559051337
>Zwei buffs could be reverted and Portal wouldn't care anways
Zwei is currently the only follower with stats in portalcraft's entire miserable in existence since launch thanks to her buff in case you haven't noticed every single fucking craft in the game plops a 6/6 or higher turn 4 except portal. Without Zwei all decks except egg would fall apart even harder and flop even more than they already are
Direct your hate boner to the permanent tier 1 sword instead of portal for one set for a change?
The good old portal hate was fine when the class had a good deck but now it's back to being dogshit like it has been since launch.
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autismo
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it keeps happening..
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I like round numbers
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>print discard package for dragon
>burnite is still a brick
>print a meme neutral amulet
>rodeo renaissance
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Whatever shall I do against this army oh noooo
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>getting plenty of ranked wins
>first chest hasn't spawned
FUCK YOU CYGAMES.
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Forest fears this woman
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Same reason there's the two 1 pp loot cards in Enhance.
Sword lives or dies in the Forest matchup depends on the first 2 pp 3/3 ward if it dies or not. Valse is making a comeback so you don't take 5 damage on turn 4.
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so you tutor faith mommy every time
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you are the dishonest one
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this encroacher is warping the innocent minds of an entire playerbase...
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Rune main looks like this?
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Kandima is ____
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56 days until albert rotates out
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are you supposed to play the old man in crystal rune
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>passes you a business card
tanoshii has space for three! our guild id is 649735728082, but please add me at 305523877606 so I have the slot guaranteed before kicking an inactive!
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Well yeah.
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dark jeanne
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very rare instance of sevo imari surviving a turn. nearly got cucked by shit internet on the turn before this, it took like ten seconds per action and i nearly didn't cast my second skibidi to get a third body on the board
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also yet another instance where chaos legion + skibidi would have been useful to kill their boss monster but they didn't have it
however, that would leave me open to a full 10 damage from sandalphon, so maybe it's a brick after all and i should remove it.
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what is in this.....
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>>559064115
The newest one of course
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swordcoded account.
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"sleeping" when the top shadowverse stream is playing crystal rune
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this felt like an alright use until i realized he didn't even have to spend an evo point for this
now i need to figure out what to replace it with. problem is i don't think any other card would've won me this game either
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goddamn amulet haven is stinky
in other games the difference between a high tier and a low tier is just a skill issue
in this game it's the difference between being able to play the game and not
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Is this enough or should I liquefy my premiums to maximise my gain?
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you just can't beat the classics
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i played sho the previous turn and then topdecked him here, so one of those would have been a chaos legion. if it was the latter i would still have lethal but if the former i probably wouldn't have played it the previous turn, so maybe this is an example of sho being better?
but i fell to sapphire and my opponent's plays were weak, with his fediels not reviving bats, so i don't think there's much to actually be gained from these games until i return to diamond
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Two members have been gone for 30+ days and didn't return for the set release or chest event. I think it's time to let them go...
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YOU THINK YOU KNOW BAD, HUH?! YOU'RE LIKE A FUCKING CHOIRBOY COMPARED TO ME!he bricked
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i didn't pay attention to his lack of the crest so i was very confused when he played them. his concede felt early but idk what he's running. maybe he's just mindbroken by imari and uninstalled after the game.
anyway final chest results
6-10 in diamond
1-1 haven, 2-1 forest, 1-2 rune, 0-3 portal, 2-2 sword, 0-1 abyss
6-0 in sapphire
1-0 abyss, 1-0 sword, 1-0 dragon, 1-0 forest, 2-0 rune
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i feel like i've seen this artwork before...
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>>559073293
it's some competitive esports thing about not leaking strats but it's dumb because you're already revealing your secret tech by playing ranked with it in the first place. anyone who seriously cares is playing private matches for practice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9L0AGvqi0s
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1k more
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aggro sword bro... please upgrade your deck to infinite value evo sword...
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3 fucking faith activations. Why does sword have the easiest quest in the game? I got killed by a 22/17 lyria.
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what a beautiful sight
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>>559049339
nerf this fuckass crest
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which of >>559076606 and >>559076893 are arguments
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>>559076991
my most difficult matchup is drawing miteo, other than that sword highroll can beat me. I'm not sure why you are having trouble with crystal rune though. just hold your damage for an otk instead of letting them play their drain
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Even the new cards couldn't help it?
https://x.com/skSplatoon3/status/2028160962583564659
This guy has some luck with it
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Yeah I know, but they can put out a lot of pressure with storm crystals and that face spell, so it's hard to hold out long enough to actually burn 20 damage from hand. And if I'm at very low health my spells just kill me instead. Obviously I can beat them with an optimal hand, but I don't always have everything.
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you said it yourself, it literally doesn't mean anything this early into the season because top 100 only means you're playing a lot
anything as long as you aren't sweating 5 hours with a netdecked top tier deck and still stuck in epic rank doesn't really matter
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And got to GM0 with Diamond off mommy Sword
I did learn that sometimes when facing Forest, one possible strat is to activate Faith twice and drown them in a flood of fatties
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It's very interesting the voice of this card is the victim not the card itself.
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In this current meta, if you arent facing a dedicated control deck...people are guaranteed to be running out of evo or removal by the time 2-3 faith activations is reached from my experience
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buffs soon and mega support next set..
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Here's the state of sapphire
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>>559079641
cute panties
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it's called nemesis in jp
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danchou ghosted me........
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>dragoncraft
>plays fish and birds
guess they discarded their identity
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nothing
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You need to outtempo them and take any healing opportunity that you can whether via Shym evo or the 6pp spell
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Yes they can stack, and no you dont need to hold mama
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Play very aggressively. Always evo face if you can. And try to stay as close to full health as possible. The longer the game takes the more likely some bullshit lethal from hand is going to happen from them.
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Thanks, I'll try to put it into practice. It feels like such a bad match up.
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Everyone? Gets 10 points quest.
Or no quest at all if you're called portalcraft.
Sword? Gets 5 point quest that buffs all their storm slop and they can tutor the activation card while progressing the quest.
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AMULET IS A WORSE DECK THAN FOOL RUNE
WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS PIECE OF SHIT
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this is your journey's first page
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>all their enhance cards are good cards they might play in a normal sword deck anyway
>they get a crest that lasts four turns that ensures they always have positive tempo and it can be extended
>they have cheap tutors for their wincons
>the tutors also have enhance
>faith can be cashed out at 5 instead of 10
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haven status
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>>559082920
it's time for a poal
https://poal.me/pizm22
https://poal.me/pizm22
https://poal.me/pizm22
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>reanimate is one of the shittiest mechanics in the game requiring a perfect curve for subpar reward that can easily be bricked by banishes polymorphs or just outright shit luck
>hey lets print amulet reanimate
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kukishiro to 6pp
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niggers stop sabotaging poals
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Lobby Creation card?
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>losing 3 sword mirrors in a row
I'm so bad at this game...
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bog standard baal blood
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>Sandalphon (14/15)
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maliss keeps getting fatter
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>>559085874
Evo Marwynn
Chalice
Shining Disenchantment + engage
Sandalphon
End turn!
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aggroabyss is actually broken
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the webm worth 70000 yen
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10/55 chests done
all vials btw
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you wouldn't do such a thing, right?
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Am I just being gaslit by everyone pretending Evo Forest is good? I never win when I play it, and I never lose against it (unless it's a mirror)
Am I just playing a different game than everyone else???
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I now understand candyman's plight
she wishes to slay the gods
the gods being Cygays for making this abomination of a deck for her
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I should be playing other craft like evo forest or saimin Rune. But in the end I ended up playing Portal.
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>faithless amulet
what is the GOD cooking?
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>You and your leader are at your favorite local bar
> After some drinks she starts dancing, both of you are having fun
>This card walks into the bar
>Orders 3 beers for her homies
>Sees your leader
>Slaps your leader's ass so hard her cheeks jiggle
>Yells "SAWAGO" at the top of her lungs
What do you do, /svg/?
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0 board impact before turn 6, understatted, effect locked behind sevo. She needed to pop an amulet on fanfare, and also to be 4/4 like other fair and balanced cards like the 9/9 + give token elf milf. How the fuck is a bronze better than the legendary representing an entire archetype?
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Te amo mi esposa gata
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Bros, do I make a milteo deck or an enchance sword deck? Evolve fairy is too expensive
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>How the fuck is a bronze better than the legendary representing an entire archetype?
you tell me
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weird post
>>559090885
its a compliment
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>portal doesn't heal
>portal doesn't storm
>portal doesn't ward
>portal doesn't make boards because all the cards have shit stats
What is the win con here? Just pray the enemy can't clear zwei and if he does just surrender and save yourself the trouble?
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>>559090273
Evo fairy is bad, enhance sword is worse but it does beat evo fairy 10-0
Milteo abyss is the single strongest deck in the format with 0 counterplay and 0 bad matchups
t. evo forest & enhance sword player just straight talking, no bullshit
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>>559091441
it's an honest tempo deck similar to pre-cat puppet, you win by hitting face with board and try to get damage in early, then finish with legions/sandal
all i can suggest is to play as aggressively as possible
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>>559082569
>abyss faith
>needs 10
>not tutorable
>does not advance mode count by itself and is a complete brick in hand until 10 faith or very desperate tempo sevo
Sham feels like an underpowered prototype of their faith design, enhance, evo and crystals are fully realized ones and cyjew just hates haven and amulets
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I don't care that amulet sucks I just want to play with my wife candyman
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I got the free sword deck already.
Evolve Forest needs 60k to complete.
Milteo and enchance sword need 30k.
Mirror matches are boring
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>>559092186
Healing, or at least drain, does not help that much really. After Milteo sevo turn the goal is to never have anything on board so the enemy cannot drain. Dealing 20 damage across two turns like that is easy, and it's possible to do even in one turn.
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>>559092782
nvm, I'm dumb. I just have to check his profile
How do you solve this captcha tho?
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Sawagooo~
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>>559090128
based chink, i might get out of topaz at this rate
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Ok so hear me out
remember how in set 1 amulet haven was a massive meme?
rodeo skullfane shit was unplayable garbage
but haven was still a good craft
by focusing on the griffon birds jeannu and l*piss combo you had storm haven which was pretty competitive
what if we tried the same this set?
sakakibara is trying just that but his deck is unrefined atm
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>>559090128
Explain this
That's his stream
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>>559098237
how else are you supposed to kill your enemy with haven marwynn is your only means of hitting the other guy enough to kill them everything else is too slow(amulet quest) too bricky(kuki) too easy to counter(lapis) or just doesnt do enough damage to offset the bullshit(birds)
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card art looks nice but I feel sad hearing Imari crying "dont leave me" in her evolved form
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My only win today was against Amulet Haven
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>>559100545
welcome back to the pit portalbabs
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>powercreep is so blatant that entire broken archetypes disappear from ladder
Nobody is crying for Imari or Erntz nerfs anymore. Same thing will happen next set, nobody will want sword mama or elf granny nerfed. All those forest/sword players will just play the next broken deck. It's a perpetual cycle of mindlessly playing the best deck for that 0.1 second of dopamine you get by winning with your tier 0 deck against a shit one and cygays knows it.
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>>559101318
stupid sexy slut...
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Name my band
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Battle Pass Leaders Per Class
Abyss: Shota, Aili
Sword: Silvarius, Zeta
Dragon: El, Saggytitstsumatsu
Rune: Nigger
Forest: Cupitan
Haven: GAO
So, who do we think will be the Portal leader next month? Will we be DOGGED for the ultimate humiliation ritual or will we get Camiscilla?
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>>559102630
it's timid pioneer
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>>559103582
Lots of whales play portal though...
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>>559100545
surprised crystal is playable with how few cards they have to stack their bullshit
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Every meta is a rock paper scissors, so what beats Forest AND Sword?
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>>559106654
This is my hand on turn 5 by the way. Got zero fairies
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how do you out this
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>>559106518
NTA, but I've been having some success on the ladder with this.
>Aggressively mulligan for Mitleo. Basically only world of games is kept as a 1-of in opening hand.
>Play like an aggro deck in the opening turns and aggressively hit face whenever possible.
>Shadowcyrpt enables a OTK, but also can enable an early niggerman evo. Contemplate this line of play: T1 one drop follower, T2 coin crypt. T3 engage crypt, suicide the 1 drop into something if it isn't dead yet, and play niggerman for an early T3 evo.
>Post-milteo just hit face
>the OTK combination is shadowcrypt+SEVO, and any permutation of five Rage of Serpents/Fists/ghosts, of which up to 3 can be ghosts.
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One more thing, don't be afraid to play a ghost early if you haven't drawn milteo yet and your hand is dangerously full. The deck generates a shit ton of card advantage via cards that draw cards or put tokens into your hand. Overflowing your hand with 9+ cards is a real concern. While obviously you want to maximize ghosts in hand to synergize with milteo's crest, sometimes playing ghosts or Rage of Serpents/Fists early is the only way to prevent your hand from fully flooding and potentially cucking you out of a milteo draw.
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>>559110293
Invoke is irrelevant when you can already tutor specific cards the real issue is forest being allowed to start stacking evolved turn 2 when other classes are gatekept at turn 5 of fucking course forest is gonna be tier 1 it always had good skyslop cards it was only shit because it had no free evos
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>>559111013
this card wasn't even very strong in legends rise, i dont think it would have been that surprising
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>>559111013
>how crazy that would be!!
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>decent blood self harm card wasn't very useful in a removalverse meta where they forgot to print the payoff side of the self harm blood mechanic
>proceed to completely ignore printing any mechanics from abyss' blood/shadow heritage and continuously only give them half of a deck with whatever this season's wacky gimmick of the month is, with only mode seeing any real traction due to a combination of heavily pushed mode cards and modal cards receiving more support than anything having to do with necromancy, shadows, blood mechanics, etc.
No shit abyss has handled fucking terribly. Them insulting blood/shadow legends with half-assed dual cards just adds insult to injury.
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>>559111634
not really, it was mostly just a solid ladder deck for grinding. midrange abyss was generally considered to be closer to the t1 decks while aggro was lower down.
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>>559112607
having a cheap ward token on hand was actually often pretty handy in mirrors since you needed to block albert and could easily combo her with amelia sevo and such. we're incredibly far off from the original discussion of whether people would have found a 2 mana 3/3 insane in the first set though.
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This useless cow has 100% self evo rate, I swear
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Why are they allowed to go infinite and I don't?!
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>>559050751
Kandima just made me play haven, but not the deck that I hate.
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tsukimi de ippai
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Maybe I will buy animated sleeve or something, the vials are not going down.
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>built evo forest
>keep playing milteo
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>>559116049
my sleeves are so far away...
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>>559077010
Done, it is now Amulet Sword.
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huehue
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Don't worry, we'll get emergency nerves tomorrow
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turn 5 justice
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>>559116897
into gene
gg firm handshakes
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>>559117393
yes, easy mistake to make for a small company
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>>559117393
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KJP8YXSTE6P1VZFHSTNQA2 TN
yes lol. i didnt think they'd cop to it.
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game detected I oinked
proceeded to give me what I needed
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anotha one
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>>559119001
im not tracking it so idk exactly but it has been above 50% for like a dozen of games around 1500 CR
https://x.com/padme_sv/status/2027067717510217995 something like this but im running world of games over seraphic
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Thank you Albert
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>Honest Fern cosplayer even down to emblem with Emperor of Elements in dirt deck
Shadowba gf
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>Why would they want to nerf a deck this much is beyond me
Probably because it would be awful to play against if it had a 50%+ WR for the average player. Very solitaire style deck with no real counter play (which doesn't matter right now because it's bad).
Amulets shouldn't be viable without more interaction to shut them down. The problem is if you add that interaction, you kill egg portal.
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>Amulets shouldn't be viable without more interaction to shut them down. The problem is if you add that interaction, you kill egg portal.
This whole sentence contradicts itself
Last meta was a mistake, a deck like egg portal should never be good
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Portal really tries to pretend their deck is shit tier when they literally have 6 of one of the strongest legendary in the game in their deck and 3 of them are reduced cost.
>BUT IT DOESNT BEAT THE FOREST LEGENDARY THAT COSTS MORE AND REQUIRES A SEVO TO DO ANYTHING
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The problem still is that it is a non interactive deck anon
They interact with your board, But you cannot interact with the eggs, so every single one of your removals or cards that want to give you favorable trades are invalidated
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For the first time since wb release, I'm not having fun
Forest and Sword are just too strong, it's absurd. It's not even a paper rock scissor meta
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Play Discard Dragon.
You roll Sword so hard it's a bit pathetic. Forest is tough but winnable if they don't curve out perfectly - especially if you go second.
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>Sword is too strong
Always has been, the craft benefits from blatant favoritism since day one. As for Forest while it is strong this set I can't be mad about it seeing how the craft has consistently been trash-tier outside of roach
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Forest is only strong because it can actually use all the good neutral evo cards now. Forest has always been shit because 80% of forest cards are dogshit and the last 20% had to carry the rest. Now you drop the shit forest cards and just run neutral cards.
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I'm using one an anon posted the other day just swapping the 3rd Forte as I don't want to craft LR Legos right now.
If in doubt, go face with Fan - the ward on the token follower is very clutch and this deck is here for a good time not a long time. You usually want to be hard mulliganing for Fan with Yube as second priority.
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>Why is the guild event literally better in every imaginable way from the rewards to the amount of time you have to invest.
What's crazy is that my guild is on life support and the only reason we maxed out the guild chest is because danchou let my alt into the guild and I earned 75% of the points fighting myself in the guild hall, and the reward:time ratio was STILL better than the chest event bs.
Chests should be 5 ranked wins. No RNG bullshit.
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[BORING NEWS] latest amulet mirror match has reached turn 20
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>>559125478
Dragon really fucks with milteo's gameplan. The whales, otohime, and the 2pp burn spell really fuck with milteo's ability to get early chip damage in, and forte storming face can close out the match just a hair faster than milteo can really get the ghost engine going. But at least it's an honest fast match and not a billion turns of grind
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>>559125885
That's the thing.
If you are playing during Chest Event, do yourself a favour and play a deck that either wins quickly or loses quickly.
Can't imagine playing Haven or Evo Abyss and losing chests after a 10+ turn game to Forest.
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