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Dead Edition
Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/
>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/
>Reveal Cinematic
https://youtu.be/fvbEnWLRo1s
>Gameplay Trailers
https://youtu.be/hWwXSb7dlnQ
https://youtu.be/MXhQbF7TlbA
>New Gameplay Footage
https://youtu.be/ToVHiqE_S5k
https://youtu.be/l5JXX0KZioI
>The Entire History of Marathon
https://youtu.be/yu7uN6-lNhk
>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/
Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/
News:
>SERVER SLAM ENDED MARCH 2
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon-server-slam
>SERVER SLAM REWARDS
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JQ2W7PPZNqc
>CHEATERS BANNED FOREVER NO SECOND CHANCES, LOOT WILL BE RETURNED TO AFFECTED USERS
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathonsecurity
>NEW OST TRACKS
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7VJ7MwzXPMN7xwF-c24Yl pWEsJXj65AI
>CODE RACE REMIX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii7KWBOy9cs
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You don't. I think only one guy successfully turned on me after I stalked him as Rook, and it was because I decided to use some shitters assault rifle (don't ever use these on Rook, the Volt pistol is far and away the best gun you can use--even if it's grey with zero attachments).
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Be real with me, does this game have literally anything to do with the actual Marathon series or is this a Prey 2017 situationthough that game was good to be fair
The only connection I've seen so far is MIDA
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>>559132841
Durandal can hijack ONIs corporate positive affirmations and tell you you're a very naughty boy sometimes, also he might be inhabiting a robo-cat.
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>Chem effect
Why the fuck did they make this effect so strong, exactly?
>2 minutes for reduced healing
>literally takes half your health
>if people being able to throw it wasn't bad enough, hugging a wall too hard with make the randomly spawning fuckers hit you through it
It's like those ticks that seemingly only exist to block off passage ways and alert the entire map to your presence, which is really what every AI enemy is in the game.
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Unironically don't start fights with NPCs without a wall or a safe exit path behind you. That is 100% how you get killed a solo player, I spent 15 minutes just stalking one Triage in a map waiting for him to start a fight so I could dome him like that.
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It's over, /we/ won.
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>>559132841
it's a sequel to marathon 2 but the art direction change means elements of soft reboot anyway i think.
if that's not the case I hope we can find classic marathon-styled weapons around. if you can find the OG double barrel it will all be worth it
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So what’s the end goal of this game? You get loot, to get stronger, to get more loot, to get stronger, for what exactly? In a traditional FPS with campaign, the goal is to beat a challenging campaign. In a traditional arena shooter or hero shooter, the goal is to outplay the enemy team. You get satisfaction from being the better player and winning the competitive match. In a battle royale, you get satisfaction from being the last man standing. But what’s the goal of this game? Because I see no end goal. Most guides advise you to try to avoid combat so you can grab loot and exfil ASAP without losing anything.
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I better be able to be invincible once I grind out some gold gear
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You do maps to get loot to do the next map to get better loot and to get a key to the next map where you can get more gear and a key to the next map which is the actually fun one with puzzles and a boss.
Now extend every map by 20 hours when you factor in every time you wipe and lose your gear and keys and you have to grind your way back up.
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>>559133551
It's probably stylistic but in the splash art for the Compiler is fucking huge, I don't remember them being that big in Marathon 1.
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lesbian sex between vandal and recon when?
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>>559133863
the racks of UESC bots in the compiler's room makes me think that it's just gonna summon a bunch of UESC adds and not be that threatening on its own and i hope that's not the case even though that's how bungie does bosses
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>yuup we made the anticheat from the ground up ok just trust us there won't be any cheaters ok trust the fog of war :^)
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outpost looks like ass from that vid. is every single level a warehouse, nice colony you have there.
whats the future of the game looking like?
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>>559133707
Is the security officer still a timeline jumping demigod at the very end of marathon infinity? Him having a small chance to show up in high level maps as an unkillable npc that you have to treat as a massive stage hazard rather than a conventional boss enemy could be fun
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leaked picture of latest marathon map
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this but in samey offices and warehouses
are you having fun?
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>>559134109
those are some east asian tier asses holy shit
i thought westoids worshipped big butts?
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>>559134942
if she gets off to that then that's hot but I think it's better that she kisses them on the lips then closes her helmet so they can't let go
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Uhm positioning bros why do people keep bringing up Marathon having tons of aim assist,no bullet velocity drop and that makes the lower ttk sting extra? Should I just make another video how people aren’t playing the game correctly? Help me out I’m starting to see their point
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no memes. this time we are on top
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>>559133234
The UESC Marathon leaves our solar system like 100 to 200 years before the new game takes place. I attribute this wild difference in style to be a change in the times. Compare an automobile in 1920s to a modern super car. Technology changes.
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>go watch some original marathon gameplay because curious
>it looks more fun than this dog shit
>and it looks like pic related
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>>559136458
yeah but the colony (established by the marathon) and the marathon itself share the disposable high-vis plastic look to things when they didn't in the games and there's little explanation for things that were in the original looking like they do here
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>>559136738
I love the originals. They're pretty fun
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Nah, new one is boring
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reminder for all you stupid arc raiders chuds that marathon is a hardcore pvp experience and if you can't adapt to being robbed by your own team-mates that's literally a skill issue
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>basically the same puzzle but you have to actually communicate over comms to make sure you're aligning everything correctly since each player has to to do one switch
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oh wait nvm i mixed up wildstar and wildgate, foolishly
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>Bu-but SteamDB is ONLY for PC players!
Meanwhile...
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Lmao even gold shields they still dying in under 2s
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oh what the fuck
I just noticed that
so basically not worth it to actually bring in good gear, what the actual shit
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>>559138253
I didnt notice...its over bro
i close my eyes and accept it, marathon is so fucking dead HAHAHAHHA
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>>559135654
she's a one-sided lesbian, loves having sex with women but doesnt actually love women
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>>559138253
if gear rarity made a really dramatic difference in how hard you are to kill, /vg/ would still be bitching but it would just be
>oh wow so i can do everything right and be careful and pick my battles and conserve my supplies but if i get the drop on this guy he can still just turn around and kill me because he got a lucky shield drop. fuck me i guess, how am i supposed to get good loot if i can't kill anyone who has good loot? nice balance you fags
you know i'm right
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I always knew she was best girl
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>>559138665
Don't worry anon, blender artists will put it to good use.
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Imagine what its like when you get the Marathon-Only weapons and then go to Perimeter and Dire Marsh
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you would have a point but what if they did gear based matchmaking like that
>wow yeah at the start with people paired/match with in these games all have dogshit gear we all die fast
now if the game worked correctly
>higher gear matchmaking
>shields actually made a difference
>fights actually feel like they matter more because the shields now work as intended instead of giving you .253251354 more response time before you die
right now this low of ttk doesn't make a difference with gear. it should at least give that illusion but it clearly fuckin doesn't.
i suppose the proposal is to just simply make shields way bulkier to make the ttk in a better spot.
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Being that this is my first full on PvP game, let alone Extraction Shooter how does matchmaking work? Because I'm absolutely, one-hundred percent miserable at this game and I got matched by purple shielded players in the Slam
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we dont fully know, but theres probably something like the gear $total you bring in, your total level and anything else is up to whtaever people figure out
arc raiders eventually implemented matchmaking depending on how often you went and killed people, which eventually meant you were placed in lobbies of only killing eachother/only killin robots
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too professional for things like "relationships" so just gets off to vandal and thief lesbian action
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is the other player using a weak shotgun? whats going on in this one? there will be damage reduction items or what?
i took a shotgun blast at that health on the slam and it was one hit so why two here?
im tryong to cope there will be something to lessen damage
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I'm not touching this shit until Bungie actually changes the anticheat from Destiny 2.
https://files.catbox.moe/7weoy4.mp4
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>>559135823
>le planets with foggy sky :DDDD
shut the fuck up nigga bungie lost their talent years ago
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>benjaminbingham
Oh this guy is a celebrity in Destiny and Bungie forums. Unless I’m mistaking him for somebody else, this mental patient is notorious for getting into absolutely borderline troll arguments but it’s all unleaded tism and dick riding bungie
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Yeah shield recharger rarity color is basically 1:1 for your shield type. White fully restores White, Green to Green and so on. Since he has 3 shield pips that means he has a blue shield so his blue shield recharger can fully restore it.
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GUYS WE HAVE OUR FIRST MEME
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You just have to play 20 hours before you get access to this lighting in a bottle
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>>559139823
ttk is in a good spot. better gear will level it out.
you just have to keep playing and it. will. get. better
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I spent like 3 hours in the slam specifically hanging around the tick building in perimeter for the first nucaloric contract, once I realized it was a guarantee I would see at least two other players. I’d kill them while they clear the ticks/turrets or just while they’re character is locked into a retarded 10 second animation of clicking a keyboard. Otherwise it’s just running from poi to poi listening for gunshots and risking never finding anyone and having 0 fun because shooting other players is the only entertaining part of the game. It wasn’t long at the nucaloric building before I was thinking to myself “haha wow I’m being a massive faggot, why is the game allowing me to be such a massive faggot” I hope I did at least a little to sour peoples experience with the game.
The only time I heard a single other player on prox chat over my 20ish hours was when I killed someone near extract on dire marsh and they screamed “COME ON MAN” in a highly distraught manner. Loot his body and I see the contract items he needed to extract with. I assume it’s probably not the first 20 minute session he wasted trying to run this shitty contract and make a little bit of faction progress. This shit is only going to appeal to a minority of a minority lmao
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I actually wouldn't mind if there were maps more dedicated more to PvE aspect of PvPvE in Marathon eventually. Something a little relaxing between high intense maps.
Sad that any mention of PvE and or TTK is met with visceral, flem spitting rage
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I have yet to see a side view of vandals ass ingame
starting to think recon may have the bigger ass
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>I assume it’s probably not the first 20 minute session he wasted trying to run this shitty contract and make a little bit of faction progress. This shit is only going to appeal to a minority of a minority lmao
Those missions really need to be purely optional.
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*taps the sign*
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Destroyer canonically has the fattest ass of the shells so far, big soldier boys are always caked up.
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>>559142423
dont know whats stoppin these retards to make an actual hazardous zone that keeps people too busy trying to survive that pvp is actually not the whole point because killing others puts them in danger too id ont know i feel like the genre isn't innovating much
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>>559142097
I actually literally traded items with a solo rando this morning. No communication other than "friendly" and then we dropped shit for each other.
Not a good pic but the other guy dropped a green smg and some heals and I dropped a blue lmg.
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>>559142443
This game is made by pronoun faggots that have been parading around with the rotting corpse of a company that, once upon a time, made products worth giving by a shit about. Go suck the barrel of a gun
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>>559142778
>Game has the same gunplay as Destiny
>Game has the same abilities as Destiny
>Game has the same animations as Destiny
>Game has the same looking guns as Destiny
>Game has a large chunk of the team from Destiny
History will repeat itself a third time
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I'd uninstall if that happened to me
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>the next run.
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I'm buying the game, hopefully others to do so it isn't like dead.
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It'd be more telling of Sony than Bungie if that's the case IMO.
Sony already have a new cashcow system with Helldivers 2 that works. If they don't try to emulate that even a little I'd be very surprised and disappointed in them.
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>>559142337
>"um weird our internal metrics-" (they don't have those, they just listen to streamers, but for the joke lets assume they do)
>"um weird our internal metrics are saying almost everyone player is only playing the PvE maps"
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IF YOU KILL ME YOU ARE LITERALLY RAPING ME I CAN'T STAND DYING I'VE INVESTED SO MUCH INTO THIS RUN I CAN'T POSSIBLY RECOVER FROM LOOSING ALL MY BIOMASS
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I’m amused by morons using their free will to shove mandatory quests into their mediocre extraction shooter where every game you already risk losing what you brought and gaining nothing. Bungie REALLY innovated here by including another thing you can lose, progress on the shitty MMO tier fetch quest you probably don’t actually want to do anyway. I don’t give a fuck, it’s just funny man, real smart move
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>>559142423
It sure feels like it.
In all my days I've never seen such an insane reaction to critique for any game, let alone PvP in such a specific way.
Obviously there's always disagreements, arguments, debates but to see such a reaction when the entire genres abbreviation has PvE in it makes no sense. Not to mention how strong the deniability or even considering other options or open to discussion on why things may have to change in small ways to even last a year let alone a few months.
What's really wild is that between all the socials across the net they almost have 1:1 identical retorts and self-defense reactions to anything even if it's just discussion.
The TTK
>It can't, won't, shouldn't, impossible to increase TTK even though this game has RPG-like kits to each character and isn't real life fictional like Tarkov
Then, if you say or discuss anything along the lines off... "the game wont last if they don't try and bring in more people due to how long Marathons been in development (5 Years), including an extra year Sony didn't want them to do as well as delaying a Destiny 2 update by three months that has virtually killed the game to around 5 to 10k players to the point that they're not even getting passive incoming from the Silver Shop and the development team have said that they need this to work"
>Well Tarkov spent more than 300 Million USD on their game and it has a SMALL and NICHE community of 45k-ish players and it's fine even though Bungie is beholding to Sony and Sony has dropped millions in advertisement and fucking ARGs to get more people into it
Sure, ok, what about how certain shells feel like a half-baked idea created on the fumes off a line of coke from the taint of Bungie Shareholders?
>You don't understand! All the shells are viable, they are all good in the RIGHT HANDS! Nothing needs to change even though the best players who could handle those shells are in the miniority compared to the majority of players who are clueless, mindless fucks!
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A lot of you guys are so negative. It’s really annoying honestly. Just play something else if you think this game sucks. You don’t have to spend your time being obnoxious in this thread. I officially release you from this duty. Go in peace.
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S TIER
>Triage
>Recon
>Rook
OKAY TIER
>Assassin
>Destroyer
SHIT TIER
>Vandal
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>Sony already have a new cashcow system with Helldivers 2 that works
HD2 is genuinely a fluke. The devs are retarded and have no idea why the game works. The players are retarded and have no idea why the game works. Yet somehow it's fun as hell.
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I was really liking destroyer during the retard hours where everyone was new and retarded.
Popping your shield and just marching forwards as a big distraction worked more often than not and it made me feel like a big brain for pressing two buttons.
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>From what I've played and heard about the maps Outpost and Marathon and the Security Cards you need to get on Marathon; Marathon is shaping up to be an entire game based souly onGambit with extra steps
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>content person | gaming/fitness | she/her
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>>559143659
I was hyped...once.
They killed the og lore
They made a boring game
I spent weeks dickriding
I cant wait to see it flop
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>>559142362
Her positioning is the best because she can get to the right position the fastest
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>>559143869
It's funny how people are using this out of oontext as if he likes Marathon, when he just wanted people in his chat to shut the fuck up
If you are posting that because you want us to shut the fuck up, go back to fageddit you bungie cock sucking faggot shill
I hope you become trans
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>>559143717
Idk you’re the one that seems perturbed. do you have any rebuttal or some kind of reason why shoehorning, lazy, shit quests into an extraction shooter and tying important stat progression to it was a good idea?
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its already not flopping >>559136074
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>>559144084
this person was created to shill marathon.
man.
dead internet theory
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Tarkovs TTK is genuinely not ever bringing up because there are so many schizophrenic variables at play.
It's sub second if you shoot the noggin. It's measured in minutes if it's 9mm against the heaviest armours and those are both under perfect conditions.
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>>559144191
Almost like Sony and Bungie are buying their own game to fluff it up before launch...
Wait, let me guess the retort!
>No it's a DEMO of course people aren't going to play it for a long period of time even though when Arc Raiders had free Demos of their game before release it had 100k+ players before they took it offline! Besides! This is only from the Steam database!
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guys. its an indian shill >>559144260
you're arguing with whoever initially created that original post and had it stolen from the jeet John Snow
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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>bodyshots is slow
nigger, 4 hits from a 600, 700, 800 rpm gun is not slow. its literally less tahn 300ms.
just stop using dogshit ammo.
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>>559144389
A big thing going around is calling marathon immersive and hardcore like tarkov while ignoring how streamlined and casual and fast it is. Tarkov has a high TTK, but you also don't have combat in 30 seconds.
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People like this are why the TTK is so high btw. I've had a tester tell me that they actually sped the TTK up quite a lot during the delay based on faggot tranny feedback like that. And that's why Bungie is absolutely refusing to acknowledge actual potential customer feedback about TTK being too high. They are digging themselves in with yesmen by dogmatically sticking to an unironic "it gets good 100 hours in" when they think everyone is going to be running around with purple/yellow shields as if they are free.
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Niggers i see we are using the Position Meme today
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yeah theres a lot of nuances it. but were seriously arguing with bots, access shills and retards who only watch streamers play it
4chan is like the place you can have any sort of discussion and discourse about it. Just have to say the magic word before every post to know whos authentic
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>Outpost
About the size of Perimeter but almost entirely buildings, has a large central structure that you might need to fight UESC to get inside, more vertically oriented than Perimeter/Dire Marsh
>Marathon
All indoors, shitload of traps, mandatory large fights to progress through large rooms, unavoidable pvp, further shit that I made up but is plausible
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this makes a lot of sense if you consider they are only broadcasting this as some sort of way to keep feeding the feedback loop and keep things on course.
like theres no actual feedback doc or thing to sign for the server slam. the discord is like one channel of ballsuckers and underage idiots.
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Haters say they want to “watch the game flop,” which is an incredibly gay and retarded hobby, but whatever. But that doesn’t explain why they go out of their way to annoy the rest of us. The truth is they’re just attention whores. It’s best to fully ignore them. They’ll leave once they stop getting their precious (you)s.
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Hey /mg/, tourist here with a question.
Did anyone figure out how to open those locked doors throughout both maps? I noticed that inside were incredibely cool set pieces but I never could figure out how to get them to open. I was, however, on a team where one guy was able to open the one locked room on Dire Marsh where they have those tarps covering what look like tomatoes or some sort of fruiting plant?
I'm referring to the lockboxes you can find with the flares or the poison gas rooms either, these doors were neon yellow with red outlines on them like frames.
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It's wild how different things could have been if *** raiders didn't piss off its resident population of degenerate murderhobos into latching onto this game instead and taking over all related discourse
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>>559144703
yeah the ttk is indeed very high.
>>559144864
1 second is not fast, dumb nigger.
>>559145241
greenhouse keys dropped from Wraith Warden on Perimeter sometimes.
I believe some of the other keys were also findable or craftable but never bothered.
They will most likely be craftable after a certain level and investment.
One of the ways to craft "deluxe keys" involves an expensive recipe and then requires you to bring it into raid once and extract with it successfuly before you can use it.
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dont listen to>>559145538
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>>559145005
Anon,I think the haters outnumber you in this general
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>>559145810
Man these trannies have me tired already they take over EVERY community and they hate women anyways lmao i dont get why women support them
Theyre so fucking boring, everything is trans
I love sci fi but I am stuck with the trannies being in the same places
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>>559145241
found and used one in the entire session after getting to 30, the key to the locked shelter building on the "outside" of complex(dire marsh)
they're single use but what we got was pretty good, maybe not valid enough to justify the scarcity? obvious to assume not every locked room is made equal either
they might tweak the rates later but also there's more sources we just couldn't get like the other anons mentioning vendors
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>>559145743
Most "haters" don't actually hate the game and really want it to succeed; most people fall into a few categories as to why they're upset.
>Ruining a story and lore dense single-player game from the 90's into one of the worse genres and communities in the gaming community who couldn't careless about anything remotely related to reading.
>People frustrated that the game is going to fail because they'll latch onto these insane loud frustrated of people on sites screaming that everything is fine and balanced and nothing needs to change and in fact just remove anything related to PvE from the game
>People wanting a fun Extraction Shooter experience with whatever that entails with TTK but want it to be alive like how Arc and Tarkov is thematically when you're on a level and not just have enemies pop into existence like a early 2000's game
While others are so fucking beaten up, destroyed, and have PTSD from how they treated Destiny over the literal decade.
Very few actually hate it and most behind the sarcasm and trolling have a middling opinion on the game and are waiting to see what happens before they drop money on it or are waiting for it to eventually go on sale.
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>>559146189
it really is a good combination of all of those.
frustrating part is the blind praise from fans will actually make it fall with reactionaries thinking they got to scream louder at actual criticism designed to FIX the game to make it HEALTHY to actually SELL MORE copies
its a cult at this point. i dont know what else to do but vent frustrationg. mindless drone/bot farms/ impressionable stream watchers just outnumber people who actually do give a shit. everything is fuckin astroturfed.
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>>559146189
Anon i replied to you but im a hater too.
The first type though, Ill shitpost less and merely wait and see to avoid being annoying to ya...sorry but still i am not happy
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>>559146408
Just to add onto this, knowing Bungie from playing Destiny series I will bet money that they have ChatGPT or something similar condensing the overall opinion of the game and use that as to what they need to bring in more people when it does the exact oppisite because all you find on their official Discord and Sub-Reddit are insane sycophants from, apparently (I don't know/didn't know this) from Arc Raiders who are upset how much PvE is in Arc Raiders(?)
The reasoning for why I say this is that the last two "This Week At Bungie" (TWABs) blog posts were most likely written by AI because nobodies home
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Fair and justified crashouts tbqf with you two.
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>>559146901
>beta is live
>people are critical but fair, can see the good of the game if they fix up some elements of it
>beta ends
>shitfuck hate machine starts up since nobody is playing anymore
People were doing the same thing for the entire duration of the beta. Don't pretend like removing your head from your arse just now means it wasn't happening.
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>>559146934
Bro it was a free couple of days.
The only opinions you should be taking without an entire silo of salt are those of your friends who may or may not have played with you.
Everyone else, positive or negative, can't be taken at face value anymore.
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>>559147051
Sorry again, I just am kinda sad about the game I had been wiring ever since the justice trailer. The very first one.
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>Morgan Park
The slop assassin or was it another one thats the cursed hex journo? any game they praise then dies
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>>559146901
every opinion i had from the game was from about 5 hours of playtime right when it released and i got to level 10 and every fiber in my being was telling me not to playing anymore
everything i yelled about in these threads while the rest of you were ironic/unironic shitposting, being truthful or being another fuckin shill was silencing me out.
now that it is over everything i figured out with only 5 hours of playtime is exactly right. always trust your gut nigga
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>>559147303
Dead internet has been a thing before the proliferation of GPT.
I don't mean the theory either, I mean it's actually been in effect for far longer than people realize. It's only hitting the final stages now.
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>>559147273
Being that I'm a PvE slut I completely went into immersion RP and Snake Eatered that level
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>>559146201
Lol unless you guys are paypigs you can't sustain this game.
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>>559147576
>It's a $40USD Gambit Remake: Extended Edition HD
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>>559147693
im good, by my estimation this game can aquire and maintain a solid niche palyerbase just like tarkov did, since this is basically the sequel to tarkov. also >>559136074
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I think what soured me on the game was the lack of social interaction and lore rape. I still like the aesthetic and sci fi (mostly)
I am still too shy to ever use mics but damn was the game miserable to play...even my team left without me.
Then getting killed as rook just tired me
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Who the fuck are these "we hate casuals" profiles whose only purpose is to kill a game? The vast majority of people are ass at video games. If a video game doesn't have a casual player base, it fails.
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>>559148028
because people are ESL or have bad comprehension and can't use the terms properly
they think high ttk means fast low ttk means slow, this term is misused and misunderstood all the time
it's literally not that complicated but people are so insanely stupid
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>>559148138
>Taps the sign
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>>559143319
Yep. People forget Destiny sank into dogshit and just turns to content drought half the time. Destiny 2 started with 0 content tooks years before they got their shit together. Marathon is starting with even less.
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You guys act like these aren't completely valid complaints and not people who are just "haters' but people who wanted to like the game
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>>559148115
I never use mics in games, I’m Notting there talking to randos.
However, you have to use the mic in this game. It’s not meme chatter, but there are a lot of situations where I can’t get a runner ping off properly or maybe my teammates think I got downed by AI bots.
Also quest coordination to actually map a path through the map. I’d recommend actually using voice chat.
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You know what guys, i still didnt like the game but lets relax a bit and at least wait and see if it somehow works out or if we have something to laugh at later. i at least wanna see how they do durandal...at least for the anons who like it
who here hasnt defened a shit game before? i like drakengard 3 and that doesnt even run right
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im too shy...
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>>559148138
I don't know if they are joking but I have seen people basically post
>I don't care if the game has <5k players
>I'll still be playing it
as if they will keep supporting the game for such a small playerbase that probably wont purchase the battlepass or cosmetics
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>>559148504
No lmao you can search on YouTube and some of the top videos will be stuff from no name channels with a couple hundred views. Good for those guys I guess. If it weren’t for the hate this game would be releasing with an even larger portion of the market pretty much not knowing it exists
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>>559148685
>However, you have to use the mic in this game
This is honestly so true, which is why it's so annoying for me as acontroller player on pcthat there's no button to turn my mic on and off for team chat. The controller is mapped so you only can prox chat; if you want to team chat you have to either hold T on the keyboard (which means not touching the controller otherwise it will cancel the input, which means not being able to use it mid combat) or being on open mic constantly
>but there are a lot of situations where I can’t get a runner ping off properly
aiming at a runner and pinging them and the game not registering the ping is one of the most frusturating things. I like the gameplay loop, but there's so much weirdly unrefined shit like this all over the game. I almost died one time because the UI red symbol that appears over your dead teamates' bags actually hid an enemy player from my view.
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Fuck man this general is dangerous i got my refund now i wanna buy this shit again...revolving doors...
https://youtu.be/ePoSILQJeOg
seriously though. hmmm
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marathon hopefully looks like the og ship
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true mine is allgoonshit and ww3its over man
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>Marketed as a mainstream extraction shooter for the masses before the server slam
>Server slam fails
>Now it's a hardcore game for men over 40
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>>559149530
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>>559149579
rook racoon
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we are still forming on a normal general, as of now we are a collection of posters
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>>559149640
Same sisters. It’s not gonna be fun when they give the content creators their scripts how it’s actually really innovative and cool they made essential rare roaming spawns and events like a Destiny patrol space and moving some shrubs around counts as good as a new map all together, and then the inevitable $40 dlc drops and it only adds 1 hero and 2 maps . I don’t like the vibe of this just trust us bro shit
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>>559149640
I don't think they actually have anything that will make people happy or excited. People aren't going to be hyped for a new map in 6 months or a new enemy with a chance to spawn. Otherwise they would have been shouting their plans during the whole open beta to inspire people.
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What fucking pisses me off is these jackasses acting like Marathon is some big serious game yet and the ttk is warranted yet fail to realize intricacies of their constant callbacks to Tarkov and don’t make any mention how that game doesn’t have nearly as free aim assist and laser shooting. It’s like if you’re going to half ass try to sound authoritative, how bout actually bringing up the full picture and not downplaying everything
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>Even Pete didn't want to stick around for this slop
You fucking retards...
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>>559149640
>Just wish they were more upfront with what their long-term plans are.
As a Destiny player, I was told I was getting a roadmap "soon" in September 2025, now they're telling me to not expect it until June of this year at the earliest. Bungie cannot hit deadlines or manage live service games, if you expect them you, you'll be extremely disappointed.
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>>559150445
Bungie doesn't know what their own playerbase currently thinks the game is about. They are currently in a human centipede of huffing farts and pretending everything is fine and going according to their envisioned plan.
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It is very weird seeing the reaction to the game and it turning into almost a "us vs them" type of thing
People are being disingenuous and straight up going
>I repeated this talking point
>that means I'm right and you're wrong
with nobody listening to each other and coming to a common understanding
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Rather than fix the TTK, I really just want bungie to
>gut Triage's kit completely because he's broken as fuck and you're throwing by not having at least 2 on your team
>make the shotguns not an instadelete button unless they're holding the barrel literally to your head
>make the thermal sights the hardest loot in the game to get
those are unironically my only major problems with the game right now. One shell should not be the go to, and likewise you shouldn't feel like you're throwing by not taking one of the two busted weapon types
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I tried to solo a marsh randomly and a guy walked up to me and asked me to kill him because he accidentally solo queued as Triage. It was the first and only person that talked to me and wasn't immediately hostile in the entire playtest.
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This game felt like a singleplayer game, turned into a game where they actually fucking hate singleplayer games and anyone who likes those are retarded and bad and wrong and made all the mechanics really unfriendly
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would (you) be a runner?
assuming it IS your conciousness and not an AI copy
effective immortality but at the cost of being a corposlave (but you can buy your way out of it)
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this
they shouldn't be easier, they should be gone. more people having them just increases the frequency with which you get sniped across the map.
OR, instead of removing, there should be a counter of some kind like a consumable that hides your thermal image. I don't know if this is already in the game but it should be
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the beta was FUN.
the worst thing bungie can do now is listening to all the dumb casual redditors and gaming dad niggers itt that wont even play the game, do endless patches changing shit around that was fine to begin with and making things worse.
I sincerely wish for them to just keep things as they are for at least a few MONTHS and just gradually add QoL and content and minor balance adjustments at best.
*cough* nerf melee and shotgun
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>>559151737
A consumable to counter something you don't even know if you're being targeted by it is dogshit.
Either it's a insta must pick and you keep it topped up forever or you neglect using it because you don't think you're under thermals and you just die rendering the consumable useless.
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No i wouldnt, seems like a boring immortality. who knows how long it would take for you to pay it off if ever, maybe they use your mind for some other conflict and so on also this >>559151925
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I'd honestly add stuff like temp overshield you pop before running into a building (can take more than two shotties to the face and be fine but decays rapidly) and give shells like Vandal and Destroyer some of their core abilities as default
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That actually has legit bugged me. All of these fuckers with their fist up their ass keep trying to talk all high and mighty, Bungie cooked , don’t change things, it’s actually good you can laser somebody in the blink of an eye seeing their toe out of cover, and yet so much of their stream had them in tons of situations where they just barely survived a fight they had no business even winning and there was literally no skill expression just cancer low ttk weapons and consumable
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>>559151737
I think signal jammers technically can, but it's kind of retarded that you'd have to bring a full stack of signal jammers just so you don't get one shot from across the map, and even then it won't last the whole match.
>>559151678The idea of actual death scares the hell out of me, so I would unironically leap at the oppurtunity
Better to fight and die and live an interesting forever existence than to die as I am now
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nvm didn't read the whole post
I don't really such much benefit to it though, unless you're like a robosexual or wanted to live forever because you worship AI
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>>559151678
isn't there a line in one of the cutscenes that implies runners' minds just sit in a computer somewhere as data until their next shell is ready? I don't think they're technically alive any more after they take the "plunge" for the first time
what if runners are AI that have to go through the grounding exercises each time to prevent rampancy? they are obviously bullshitting them with the photographs and stuff
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Heard you guys like Recon/BlackbirdGood taste.
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>>559152042
I'm probably just super paranoid
But it was pretty weird watching Peanut play for like 15+ games and obviously getting progressively more annoyed and complaining about not finding anything good
And some random fuck in the next game I think in gold or purple gear comes up and dies to them, wonder if a Dev was like
>oh shit this stream isn't doing good
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>>559151927
literally next one talks how it incentivizes camping. But general opinion in the comments is not very glowing regardless.
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I read a comment saying kill time was even lower in the alpha so I guess we're hearing two different stories
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>>559152231
The photograph is ambiguous since the runner is the disembodied consciousness. They could have just swapped from a Vandal Shell to an Assassin.
It could be that everyone is getting bullshitted, or it could be that it's still the same runner just swapping shells.
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I think the idea is that you perpetually owe sekaguichi money if you keep on dying
>almost paid back for my body!
>die
>yeah lol you owe us for a new one now, go suck traxus' cock for money
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one is you as you are now
the other is an AI skinwalker
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>Bungie shill hugbox on twitter and reddit defends every retarded design decision
>WHY IS THIS GAME NOT MORE POPULAR?!?!?!
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>>559152447
brother you shouldn't be flagellating yourself this much over $40, just buy the fucking game at this point
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Wish her ass actually looked like that in game. Vandal's is nice at least
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>>559152061
This is actually very interesting. If I may plug a sci fi short story
read learning to be me by greg egan
the whole digital consciousness thing is what drew me to the game + marathon and i think the shells are interesting as a concept
https://youtu.be/N4Jv5H3_yAo
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Fuck...forget my refund im back on the marathon train.
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Did they address the Hub situation yet?
Im growing Hopeless
Twitters seem VERY aggressive against it.
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All my time in the server slam and i completely forgot to check Vandal's cheeks. I saw Theif's and was incredibly disappointed. Literal barbie doll butt without the crack.
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vandal has no ass see >>559134109
sadder than recons, as least recon has something
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>>559152798
The crowd surrounding Marathon is anti-everything that isn't strictly PVP so the hub is probably never unless they want to gamble the dwindling PVP playerbase to try attracting a (((wider audience))) when it's probably already too late.
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best part is that she looks like she's wearing yoga pants, same texture
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>>559152527
This is esoteric and perfect topic for this game
Your consciousness doesn't (and seemingly there is no reason it would) jump from one body to another
Explain to me how your consciousness, that isn't tangible, would somehow move onto a copy of it? While you still exist?
It's ANOTHER you, but your experiences are now split when it happened
If you are going to say
>well obviously you die once you upload the original
yea YOU die
and some copy who thinks they are you continues on going
>oh boy, that upload worked
and wouldn't think otherwise, unless actually thinking this thought problem through
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I think its a degredation test, its a lie to see the runners reaction to it and to see if they remember the last time they were there
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>>559152860
Shame, on some of the skins it looks great, especially the CyAc and NuCal ones.
>I saw Theif's and was incredibly disappointed
Don't worry, I'm sure the next shell will have a nice ass or rack.
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Vandal's ass actually looks like an ass when you look at it instead of a rectangle. The only way you can even pretend Recon has something going on down there is looking at it from the side which defeats the point of a nice ass
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>>559153530
>controller
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What if the Marathon girls were hot in game and actually had an ass?
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>>559153747
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>>559154040
i spent the last hours of server slam running down and 1v3ing bots such as yourself with a free kit.
i look forward to exactly nothing from you since you are a clueless helpless shitter that belongs to reddit
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>>559141858
It just now dawned on me that i knew that triage's prime differs from hostiles and teammates, but I hoped. Hoped that bungie messed up in the code somewhere for me to revive this recon that tried to kill me but mistakenly thought that using a skill was going to be more effective than me landing 4 shots with a gray smg. The fact that I wished that somehow that their intended game design would fail so I can have fun, because i pitied the recon trying to make a play with the tool the game provided has made me realize that this shit isn't worth a dime. I wanted to like but this game isn't for me, unless it goes free to play i ain't spending money on something just so I can purposely not enjoy my time.
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i realized a lot of shit going on
aim training trannies, the rampant cheaters in mp shooters in the last like 5-8 years, the rampant zoomer stream monsters huffin this shit up
this is why ttk seems fine to them. they aren't even playin the game. they just think shooting trigger head snapping is normal and any discussion around it gets met with dismissal
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i realized a lot of shit going on
the destinyfags and warframefags and singleplayer chuds who are so disconnected from the competetive fps space that they dont know what an AWP is or what rushing means think that 1000 millisecond ttk is blazingly fast when it is actually amongst the slowest on the market.
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>>559154907
>It's real
What the fuck are these faggots thinking with this shit?
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nah this shit is cruelty squad as fuck marathon might be mid and bungie retarded but im all in baby
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Halo 1 on your original Xbox
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>>559152798
It's a huge subjective issue for me, the fact that there's nothing but menus
it really is the biggest problem I have with extraction shooters as a whole, gamey and detached from immersion outside of the matches
tarkov's hideouts are cool but insanely limited, why didn't they put the traders in there with the story overhaul, instead they just added more menus to load and click through
obviously it's not great if more immersion just means it's 3d movement to get from one vendor to the next rather than a simple click or two
the tower in destiny ends up feeling that way, among other games
I still like seeing other people still
in marathon I literally just want a space where I can walk around and shoot my gun to test it out, and stand around with my squad
it doesn't even need to be that complex
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already got one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbEnWLRo1s
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lets spitball ideas for the game.
>A consumable that let hack a door to be close for a fairly long time (we already can seal windows on some buildings)
>Consumable that "hack" UESC robots
>Pheromone consumable that the Flood follow (like a gas granade that make the flood congregate to a point)
>deployable "fake" shell (so the enemies think is real) its dont move, but take a second to notice
>A grappler (3 uses only)
>a grenade that push people out (to clear people behind cover)
>Sound devices (they play sound of steps or some enemies) to trick players into think there is people moving around the device, like a Sound trap
>mimic lootchest (its shock the player for a second) its identical to a real lootchest, but you cannot put it on a real loot spawn.
We need more cool things.
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>>559155009
It feels appropriate in this case due to the nature of the game
You play as a mass-produced 3D-printed slopbot covered in sponsorship branding and are being sent on missions to collect raw slop material just to increase profits for the megacorporation of your choice.
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>>559155616
playa we are not hating no more were back on the hype train good vibes, love only
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>REMINDER
this is the successor to Escape from Tarkov.
its punishing, unforgiving and your raid can be over in the blink of an eye. and you can also go on a long shitty raid streak and go broke.
dont like it, go back to your chill singleplayer games.
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>>559154413
after you get that upgrade
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>>559155905
>insta qeues
>comeback mechanics like knocking, revives, self revives
>dumb tedious shit removed
>smoother and more fun mechanics
>unnecessary shit streamlined, valuables insta sold
so it meets the criteria then
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We need an item that revive an Enemy, but its HACK it, so he cannot shot your team.
So he can help you, or at least not grief you anymore. It can be like these single player games where if you point the gun to a npc, its just dont let you shoot.
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>>559156050
the direction of the short lends really well to the games artstyle, and you get a little narrative with it too
honestly surprised it WASNT part of secret level, it'd fit right in and smoke all of them (especially the 40k one)
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>>559156160
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>>559156054
working on a few pics of the girlbots
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Maybe a "Invisible Gas grenade" that when an enemy walk through it, its get market for your team.
(is like on a special UV frequency that only your gizmo can see, so they dont know)
Is like a normal ping, but they dont know that they are tracked.
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>>559156657
>it takes nothing
>literally the same genre
>same core gameplay
>walk to poi, kill scavs, loot, kill players, kill bosses, extract
>traders
>missions from traders unlocking gear
>same inventory system
>same healing, stims, armor tiers
>even the 3rd person looting animations are literally 1:1 stolen from tarkov
>scavving just like in tarkov
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>>559156829
>This goy plays nothing but AAA slop developed by committee of nongamers.
First of all, stop fat fingering your keyboard, and second Im not a Boy. And dont hate Indies, but didnt Played Tarkov because it look boring.
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>>559156964
One of you is lying. I assume Bungie didnt make an official statement about coping another game then.
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>>559157215
but they did and I know since I played both games.
keep being a disingenuous lying trolling faggot.
>>559157242
if you played both games the similarities are glaringly obvious, despite the obvious mechanical differences and art direction. why the FUCK would Bungie make an announcement like that, retard?
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>>559157403
maybe im wrong but their recent post implied it? perhaps they are just saying it will be on launch but are saying it in a retarded way?
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nta but I have ex-military milsim autist friends who play tarkov like a second job. I asked them what they thought of Marathon and they called it dogshit after 3 hours. and laughed when I told them that someone said it was their attempt at tarkov.
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>>559156902
>should we make the tkk high enough that the shield character can activate their shield within human reaction time to being attacked and not die
>lol
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>>559157512
It’s probably like the Vault of Glass in original Destiny. It’ll be a few weeks or whatever. Part of the rollout plan.
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>>559157512
It's not going to be there at launch. There's no way it isn't ready imo I think they are just trying to do a Destiny-style content treadmill by withholding content and stretching it out as a desperate attempt for player retention since there isn't realistically progression or story to keep people going for that long.
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>>559157520
naturally your larping autistic retard friends wouldnt like a game that is way more simplistic, arcadeish and completely gets rid of the reasons they play tarkov, such as the broken leg (can be healed in 2 seconds) mechanic and the gun porn modding.
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yea this is my first bungie game since halo 3, hopefully it wont be too long, i heard a week from someone
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>>559157720
>man im gonna play dis game off stream man
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>>559157727
you mean naturally they are playing the game they like for obvious and unique reasons instead of latching onto an almost entirely different game that a guy on 4chan is pretending is a successor that doesn't have the things that people play tarkov for
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>>559157947
im not pretending it is, im calling it that.
marathon is to tarkov like apex legends it to pubg.
same but different.
apex was in many ways a consequentual upgrade. it got rid of a lot of downtime and slow and clunky shit from pubg.
marathon does the same, hence they are both spiritual successors to me.
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>>559157037
The best I could do without make it silly.
>>559157720
What a shame, the guy is Fun to watch.
He should try to play solos
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>>559158883
Oh god no it’s gonna happen just like any new fps, get those coaching lessons patreons pushed where some washed guy who would get his asshole ripped out in a basic competitive mode is gonna give you tips to level up your game. I hate this cursed world we live in
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>someone defending the 0.2s TTK
>erm well in tarkov you die in one shot!
Am I being fucking gaslit? If you shoot people centre mass in Tarkov they're infinitely tanks when wearing a plate carrier.
Not to mention the fact Tarkov doesn't have contradictory design elements like hero abilities.
>>559158335
I want to play with the 2 Alysaposters, or the Gracieposter.
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DO NOT CHANGE THE TTK!!!
Please Bungie. We literally fought tooth and nail to get this crispy low TTK. Yes it sucks getting dropped, but that's why getting blue and purple shields feels so good! Also it truly enables skill to be the primary factor over gunfights, and a good player can ACTUALLY 1v3. It's so perfect right where it is. My guess is those who wants a longer TTK just didn't get access to the blue or purple shields.
At least don't tweak anything until after Season 1 when we've truly experience the full breadth of the gameplay loop.
Anyway Server Slam was amazing, I enjoyed every death and kill
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>>559159261
>Not to mention the fact Tarkov doesn't have contradictory design elements
Tarkovs RPG stats are genuinely the worst in the entire genre.
They 100% contradict the Tacticool theme when you can fucking zoom around fast as fuck and avoid concussions because you've built up an immunity to being shot in the helmet.
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>>someone defending the 0.2s TTK
>>erm well in tarkov you die in one shot!
>Am I being fucking gaslit? If you shoot people centre mass in Tarkov they're infinitely tanks when wearing a plate carrier.
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>Not to mention the fact Tarkov doesn't have contradictory design elements like hero abilities.
its a combination of gaslighting, fucking mental retards, stream monsters and access shilling doing a lot of parroting.
I have yet to see why any hardcore tarkov player prefer to defend this game so fuckin hard
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>>559159296
Pro-TTK fags will tell you its your fault for stopping for 0000.2111 picoseconds to fight UESC and being caught "out of position" but it it's their god given right to be able to win every 1v3 instead of knowing when they should withdraw from their current POSITION of disadvantage
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These and the "Iranians cant play the game yet" are the best ones.
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>>559160332
Is this game supposed to be cute or grim??
triage robot have a uwu smile for some reason? Im suppose to play Tarkov but harder or Cute lore game?
Dont know how to feel. and People online are too toxic about it.
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>>559160265
>iranians can't play the game yet
what exactly is that? i'm not payin attention because im so hyperfixated on this type of dismissal by talking down to you like you probably wear velcro shoes, and describing what the X button does
>>559160214
but anon if we raise the ttk, then every single firefight will like *insert exaggerated number* hours! thats clearly bad so lets just keep it at .8 seconds. it feels right. its almost perfect. no complaints ever. just buy the game it will get better i swear, bu buh but purple shields will help im sure!
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>>559160579
I just think it's inspired by Japanese media which often infuses and blends cutesy elements with more severe and serious/grim elements.
I actually like this part of the game a lot. It feels raw and real. Like a more out there version of a soldier painting a peace symbol on his helmet.
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>dude if you just learn you'll die less
IM NOT LEARNING SHIT, IM JUST DOGSHIT AT AIMING, IF I COULD LAND ANY SHOTS I'D BE WINNING WAY MORE BUT I CANT GET BETTER CAUSE I JUST DIE, BOTS ARE NOT A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FOR PLAYERS TO LEARN FROM, I DONT UNDERSTAND MOVEMENT AND RECOIL CONTROL AND I USE A VERTICAL MOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE CARPAL TUNNEL SO I GET BLIPPED BEFORE I CAN EVEN REACT
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>work on your positioning anon
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>>559161102
They just need to add asscracks
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>IM NOT LEARNING SHIT, IM JUST DOGSHIT AT AIMING, IF I COULD LAND ANY SHOTS I'D BE WINNING WAY MORE BUT I CANT GET BETTER CAUSE I JUST DIE, BOTS ARE NOT A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FOR PLAYERS TO LEARN FROM, I DONT UNDERSTAND MOVEMENT AND RECOIL CONTROL AND I USE A VERTICAL MOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE CARPAL TUNNEL SO I GET BLIPPED BEFORE I CAN EVEN REACT
Unc gamers are the most discriminated demographic
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>There is still a select group of retards that have hope for this game and Bungie
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>>559160776
This is a good take. It’s correct.
I play all the BRs and as soon as your at a health/shield deficiency, the fight is over.
In most games, you should never engage another person when you’re not healed up.
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>>559161136
Schizo theory. But there is some text in the codex somewhere where they talk about that cat mysteriously opening doors. And Durandal was originally the AI responsible for controlling doors on the Marathon bet he went rampant. But who knows?
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>>559161296
it will succeed and deep down you know it too, that is why you struggle, you wish so badly that they would fail, have to shut down forever, but somewhere in your heart you realize your struggle is futile.
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>>559161450
Destiny fucking died and I thought they could hold onto a stable group of retards what would let them milk them, but that's not the case. There's nothing fun about Marathon for people outside of the Bungie Defense Force.
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>>559161342
theres a lot of contradictions to his statement
there is a system in position to work around a particular ttk and its why we have all this dogshit in the game in the first place. if gear doesn't matter and were clutching juicy 1v3s then theres something wrong. the obvious inventory system isn't doing its job there
we have thermal scopes and invisilbity nonsense going on and im sure they didn't think we should have insta deleting guns because they also added a ton of dps abilities to go along with shooting bullets
its a mess. hes tryin to fence sit but you know he has a fuckin tweet saying its perfect as it is.
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>>559161342
isn't that actually the way this genre SHOULD be though? if not even more extreme than that?
I find it really strange how loot centric extraction games are but they never really commit to it
even tarkov has loopholes to get around gear deficits like leg meta
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>>559160776
This is going to make me schizo how once again no mention of Marathon’s very high bungie game aim assist or how Tarkov operates with other factors in play especially with velocity. For how much people go on about this stupid fucking topic the omission of that just makes them infinitely more brain dead and it drives me insane. I have such bad autism for this stuff so when it’s a crucial factor how stuff is and it’s not even brought up it’s like your argument fucking sucks just admit that Marathon is free as balls straight line shooting with no emphasis on skill
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>>559161268
IM NOT UNC I JUST DONT INTO SHOOTING, I WANT TO EXPLORE AND LOOK AT LORE AND IMMERSE MYSELF INTO THE /AESTHETIC/, NOT GET HEADSHOT THROUGH SMOKE BY SOME MONKEY WITH SOUND OFF AND LOW TEXTURES THAT SKIPS THROUGH ALL THE DIALOGUE WHILE IM READING FLAVOR TEXT AND TRYING TO EXTRACT WITH LORE ITEMS TO UNLOCK THE CODEX ENTRIES
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>>559161657
This is unironically the only place we can talk about it
I'm sure people leave once they get their frustrations out
I have to assume you are an indian bungie shill, because its obvious we are all waiting for release because we LIKE the game
also the fact you haven't replied to any of my posts explaining this
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>Marathon is for the kids
Uhhhh....ok unc
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Being a fan of a game because of the developer in question has always been dumb. Even the most adamant Kojima slurper knows he has hits and misses.
Like nuMarathon, hate nuMarathon, whatever. But do so based on its own merits.
How you feel about Destiny, Halo, or even OG marathon should be largely irrelevant since that was basically a completely different development team anyway.
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>>559161614
why the fuck would you want a game where you have absolutely zero agency once you have a gear deficit? good gear should be fun to play around but it shouldn't make you literally invincible. there better be ample counterplay/escape opportunity if you want to make it impossible to win a straight fight
hard losing teamfights the second one person goes down and having to run away is lame as fuck
having absolutely no recourse for a gear diff is lame as fuck
why on earth do you want this
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>>559161637
sadly its really hard to get a good discussion going about it anywhere so i understand.
then you realize this is bungies job in the first place, and why should we help fix their game for free?
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>>559161692
Why not? You didn’t answer the question. If you hate this game, why are you still here?
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How long until you’ve finished venting your frustrations? Will it be soon or does it usually take a really long time?
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>>559161553
The contradictions is what bugs me. People are trying so hard to sound all knowing bringing up fucking Tarkov yet conveniently downplaying every aspect Marathon has that couldn’t have the games be any different especially physical piloting of Marathon being infinitely more generous and why the environment makes the low ttk among other things a bit of a pain point. I swear the way some of these retards talk is like a problem gambler degen uncle who’s trying to min/max a parlay with the worst ideas
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>>559161825
if there was a time id be a bungie fan it would be for marathon since i never really liked how actually bland and safe halo was in retrospect.
destiny was too magically gay for me
but marathon just hits the right notes with me in a way where i can understand how star wars fan used to feel with shit like nu-trilogy
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>>559161718
Just watch a lore video at that point dude. It's like playing Fear and Hunger or Pathologic without actively suffering through the game.
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Having a blast with this banter. And we’re all getting lots of attention, which is great.
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>>559162201
>This is like Battlefield 6 all over again
It sure is
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>>559162230
>do u really believe there are paid shills on 4chan be serious
>paid
I believe there are Shills, I dont know if specifically paid to be here. I assume they check Reddit more, but checking 4chan is literally free...
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>ITS OVER
>ITS DONE
>HE'S DONE
>ITS FINALLY OVER
>THE END
>FINALLY DONE
>HE'S FINALLY DONE
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>>559162372
Arc has 8X the player count and came out the same month. BF6 is dead, but at least it hit a respectable peak player count. Losing 95% of your playerbase is bad for a company that is only losing money, look at Bungie.
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>>559162201
ah yeah people were excited for bf6 until release and it got fuckin pozzed with MTX everywhere and they started nerfing shit to make it hard for casuals to "progress" to get them to buy BP levels
i would not be surprised if that same shit happens here
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found the post, don't think it's real, all the tweets are like that and seem to be obvious engagement bait
I don't get how these retards breath, someone had a conversation with @grok in the comments
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>>559162230
>do u really believe there are paid shills on 4chan be serious
There are next to no actual paid shills, but you'd be shocked at how far autists will go to force, control, and warp narratives literally for free.
To the autistic mind, anonymous social media sites are like a canvas for them to play God with. People will spend months fabricating memes and "movements" in generals just in an attempt to see their own nostalgia-coated opinion etched in stone as law.
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>>559162574
The most annoying aspects of 4chan have been adopted by the entire internet. It’s really only good for occasional shitposting now. But any actual discourse has been irreversibly poisoned by the dumbest retards of all time.
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Yep
I've had a schizo describe to me the "high" they get from one of their narratives catching on basically becoming reality with everyone parroting
Theres probably some guy here who thinks he invented "having a blast"
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>>559162716
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>>559162828
genuinely the addiction people have to consuming and repeating narratives is the biggest problem human beings have. think about how much better the world would be if people were simply self aware enough to acknowledge when they're being objective and when they're just repeating some bullshit they have fun believing
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>>559162840
I've been disappointed with BF6 since the beta but the game absolutely does not take "5+ minutes" on average to find a match.
I guess I can only speak for myself, and I live in a 1st world country with good internet, but this game is absolutely not dead yet.
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Holy shit this.
Autists who obsess over trying to cement narratives are the worst people on this site, and I'm a 30+ boomer who has seen a lot of shitty 4chan arcs come and go.
But it's like every general now has multiple people who just mass reply to themselves in order to make themselves feel good and try to "control the culture" of a community for no reason other than it makes them feel important.
Like, just go make your own discord server holy shit.
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>>559163041
Honestly, good for them. I hope they’re having fun.
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Social media, including 4chan, is the perfect engine for this behaviour. People just get whipped into a frenzy like it’s nothing. And everything becomes so tribal. I must join one of the two “teams” and start spazzing out at the other “team”.
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The positioning meme is just the new version of the "play smart" thing that tarkov went through.
Always hated it that line of thought because they make it seem like these things are turn based.
"Ah yes let me just position myself. Let me think smarter while my opponent does absolutely nothing in the interim."
Like they have no idea what they are talking about,
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>>559163367
are you me?
its cathartic. its like uncovering pizzagate
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@grok summarize this image in a few sentences
A player who grinded Marathon for 34 hours during the Server Slam calls it a beautiful, refreshing extraction shooter with stunning graphics, phenomenal gunplay and sound design, perfect TTK for skill expression, and a revolutionary storyline, rating it a solid 8/10 with huge potential to become a 10/10. They note minor gripes like occasionally lackluster loot, slightly clunky movement, and an initially confusing UI that quickly becomes intuitive and loved.
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>>559163414
i know from lengthy experience playing shooters that i prefer playing around low ttk find trying not to be seen first more than teamfights and minutes-long back and forth poking duels but you've been talking to yourself and forcing this narrative all day and don't think there's anything i could say that would stop you
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I wanna play this but Im nervous from what I saw on the server slamit seems like this requires a HUGE time investment grinding and such and i am super anxious about that. autistic reason but im afraid of wasting time on multiplayer games or anything out of fear of death
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4PShDbJPx0
Just vibe and grind
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>>559163878
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>>559162230
Always have been. Shilling games here is easy as fuck, the only difference from reddit, is that you have to make your shilling sound edgy or contrarian. Anonymity helps with samefagging, creating discussion and shit flinging to keep your shill thread on first page of /v/.
/vg/ is less prone to shilling since general threads have less traffic than /v/, but a post or two would not hurt if game is close to release.
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>>559163776
I'm not poopooing low TTK or advocating for higher TTK in marathon. I played and enjoyed a shit load of insurgency and the average TTK in that game at all ranges is still under a second.
I'm saying that that particular school of though about games in general is fucking retarded and people who use it are incapable of actually understanding the games they are talking about. NPC rhetoric, they fundamentally don't understand how to contribute to the conversation so they just say a bunch of nothing.
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Anon I’m actually losing it, the physical lack of people actually bringing up Marathon having a ton of aim assist, it doesn’t have bullet trajectory like so many games etc, it’s wild. I thought with something like Warzone being as mainstream popular as it was most people who played a shooter have some concept of that mechanic in games. But they just keep wanting to talk about Tarkov clutch is goated and we need that low ttk otherwise we can’t 1v3, actual retard shit . Is it intentional, are people just not talking about marathon being actual different because it would hurt their big argument how you’re playing the game wrong, like I just don’t understand why people so confident in trying to sound like they know what they’re talking about are missing such basic concepts of an FPS and breaking shit down. I could literally search specifically for any mention of marathon and aim assist in this low ttk conversation and barely anybody is mentioning it
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i remember meeting some bros on destiny general around its release to play on xbox 360 and we did the first raid together. that was pretty fun
i wonder if this game would be possible for that?
though i was in my early 20s and i have given up drinking so maybe that kind have had made that experience more fun that it really was.
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>I could literally search specifically for any mention of marathon and aim assist in this low ttk conversation and barely anybody is mentioning it
Explain me the aim assist situation like I am a retard, does make the game better or worst?
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>>559164450
"you need to have better positioning" is, for the most part, true in marathon, though. it's about who is aware of who first and that means not mindlessly sprinting everywhere, it's about being aware of where a person could plausibly be and being in the right place to capitalize, it's about being aware of when you made noise and who could have heard it. there are ways to minimize the risk of getting ganked and the only ways people are going to get around it are a LITERAL instagib snipe/shotgun blast or making so little noise (i.e slowly crouchwalking everywhere) to get to a place where they can line up a killshot on you.
all you need is a single footstep/looting sound/mantle/door opening
to instantly enter "there is a player nearby and I need to play like there is one" mode. it is just not that common for my first contact with a player to be visual.
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anons, being mostly schizophrenic and irony poisoned, generally cannot tell what is a real shill and what is an anon trying to discuss a game and encourage others to try and discuss it or something like an anon doing the most blatant falseflag samefagging to create backlash towards the thing theyre pretending to be positive towards
imagine walking into a throng of greek philosophers in ancient grease and complaining that theyre trying to influence your way of thinking, like yeah you're in the literal fucking marketplace of ideas bud
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i think 1/3rd are retards parroting, 1/3rd are bots giving automated buzzword responses, and 1/3rd up and coming sponsored shills filling out their resume with ass kissing posts.
then you ahve to keep in mind the marathon subreddit is hiding their controversial tab unless you swap to the old.reddit format. its astroturfed to fuckin shit
and the bizarre thing? the shit we are mentioning now will get discussed endlessly by the time the game drops, and everyone moves on.
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Doubtful in the slightest, any "raid like" thing in marathon would have to be able to be completely by 3 people in the event of people dying. Destiny raids are only ever completed by 12% of the player base, now try adding pvp on top of that
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sort of a staple of post-halo bungie games is that they have extremely strong bullet magnetism on PC to have parity between their typically strong controller aim assist and mouse/keyboard
bullet magnetism means if you shoot in a wide area around someone's head you will still hit the head. some shooter players don't like it being so easy to hit critical hits.
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not him but in this specific case and not tarkovs, bullet magnetism in halo games has been a thing since fuckin forever, i dont know about destiny
but controller aim assist not only helps your crosshair aim, it makes your bullets magically hit better too, magnetize if you will
it makes the "its like tarkov, tarkov did it, its fine, whats the big deal about ttk being so low" really fucking, i dont know, dishonest and retarded.
tarkov is a military sim full of grounded "realism" to make shooting a little more harder to do compared to marathons. so this whole lets make it just like tarkovs without compensating shit that goes on to even aim in tarkov, like aim assist, fuckin even more bullshit and how it SHOULDN'T be LOWER TTK
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>>559164898
>marketplace of ideas
Acktually, Ancient greeks just kill each other phylosopher schools.
Aristoteles just conquered Crotone and a couple of other cities with its "school" and there where 2 wars against his "school".
So if you walked into Socrates he would just beat you up for be a sophist (because you went to a public school) and probably molest you before and after the beating
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I think there is actually very little shilling. Arguments just emerge because people feel very strongly one way or another and the conversation naturally becomes quite polarized and hostile. People on 4chan in particular are just extremely paranoid that everything is a psyop. When in reality, you’re just talking to another bored anon who is trying to make you angry about video games.
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The problem I have with people atm is this very contradictory rationale that relies too heavily on bringing up how other extractions have low ttks as well but fail to bring up how in particular Marathon weapons have a lot of aim assist by default compared to said other games, and as far as the shooting experience goes, Bungie copy pasted off Destiny so most of these weapons fire more or less a straight line to a certain distance and then do less damage after certain distance. Why I take issue with this with a low ttk is it basically you already have so many beneficial factors for physically using the gun that to have you able to down somebody that doing it quick too prettt much takes a lot of combat challenge out of things, and that’s before factoring in the layer of hero abilities. No I’m not anticipating Marathon needs to be hardcore but people using a more hardcore example for a game that is giving free as shit kills is a bit goofy. And sure two way street but it can feel a little gross getting bailed out in a situation you would’ve lost in any other game because the game basically played itself
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>forcing
anons literally win the debate. i think higher ttk anons simply can't compete so they are doing some sort of gaslighting attempt to make them appear crazy because their opponent simply wont admit they are wrong and retarded
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If I was severely paranoid, I would say the anti-Marathon posters are also just shills who are trying to use reverse psychology. People think /v/ is retarded. People see that /v/ hates Marathon. People decide the game is worth a try after all.
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i caught an anon using chat gpt there so its pretty grim
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oh for sure. if this was an actual general it would be full of troons using it as a pseudo chatroom and say "good games that was fun sorry i died there" and other shit to fill up the thread. and more people posting porn.
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>>559165284
see >>559162571
There IS shilling, it's just most of it isn't paid.
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overwatch was actually fun in the beta and the first month so i dont know. was the mass marketing shilling and gaslighting going on for that? because that was an actual good game at the time and didn't need people to say you're playin the game wrong or anything
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>>559165284
Dead Internet Theory isn't a theory
Companies buy
>reviews ex: IGN
>articles about the game
>youtubs videos about the game as long as they don't tell you to purchase it it's not an #ad "you're just stupid if you don't like the game"
>paid Twitter posts
>paid Twitter REPLIES to those posts because people figured out you could get the top reply and post something funny or stupid so companies need to circumvent that so its all positive replies
I'm sure the list goes on, at this point I barely trust posts on 4chan
Pretty sure there is a paid indian bungie shill in this thread (or a very stupid person crying about people shitposting on 4chan)
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theres...no porn yet i can post...
>>559165810
youre right but this post started like AI
>Dead Internet Theory isn't just a theory, it's a fact.
>>559165863
yeah loved that one, domed so many lil runnaz on marsh with that
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>>559165765
i just remember it was great until sometime shortly after the first new hero Ana. Then after that it got flooded with insane gays, troons and people all caps screaming their mental illness at random anons
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So every single person who says they enjoy the game is a shill. And every single person who says they don’t enjoy the game is either a shill using reverse psychology or a severely retarded autist who is trying to drive the narrative against the game out of spite.
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Anyone took a screenshot of the pixel art of rook the game shows while entering a match, no contracts allowed. I liked that pic
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id post more pics but i got warned...
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>youtubs videos about the game as long as they don't tell you to purchase it it's not an #ad "you're just stupid if you don't like the game"
Here's the funny thing - they don't need to buy shit. Destiny is dead and does not generate any views. Ex-destiny youtubers need Marathon to succeed or it's flipping burgers for them.
You see it all the time when new MMOs come out. Dozens of channels shill for them in hopes that it would drive players to stay and secure ad money for youtubers.
The only people who are actually getting paid are large streamers because they drive views on release day.
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oh HAHA thats when i stopped playing funny enough. damn.
i honestly cant imagine how any discussions can have in a general like this that isn't porn, shitposting, and discussing weapon balancing
probably why i schizopost about ttk and just post dogshit screencaps of reddit and twitter. still just dumbfounded on a lot of things. i have some personal grievances that goes with dishonest marketing and advertising.
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>theres...no porn yet i can post...
>all the porn is futa
its marathover... billions must troon
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>>559166392
she still looks wrong, everyone else looks accurate except her
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Does that mean we will get new "series" characters within the "class" of them? Kind of like an archetype?
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That's not impossible but I doubt it's currently the plan, the series name being Glitch is more like an Easter Egg from when the shells and runner were the same thing, and 'Glitch' was the name of the character.
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Id say assassin and destroyer next best of the dudes, i think triage looks lame as fuck, cute drone though.
Ironically just thought destroyer with his white and red chunky look would look like a cooler paramedic
Rook is just funny, funny dialogue and concept
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>>559166842
There's definitely gigantic bloom if you try to shoot mid-air, and some chips affect stability specifically while crouching, but I don't really know if bloom specifically exists or to what extent when you're grounded.
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It's weird how this is supposed to be a hardcore PvP game
and then they made all items have weird names and shit
I was watching a streamer and he's like
>you should use the Ruruspruir
there probably a real name, but I think he was joking too about all the names being fucking weird
The other guy goes "whats that" and goes in his inventory
>THERES ENEMIES REAL PLAYERS
>"What?"
before he can even get out of his inventory he's dead and thirsted
I get it, he should have positioned better
But why is he punished for not knowing what the Ruruspruir is?
>uhh that's part of the game you have to memorize our 400 pokemon-tier items to be good at this game
ok bye
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It's a problem with them turning the game into PvP only
If it was PvE like originally intended, you would have some breathing room to actually read all the items and descriptions
the streamers I watched literally said shit like
>oh I have to read?
>I'm just... going to click all these boxes until they stop glowing green
and never reading any item descriptions, because why would you as a streamer, or in general when a lot of the younger generations are like
>who the fuck reads lmao
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is gmg like scamming or something? >>559167834
should i avoid gmg?
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>>559167391
What should they call it instead? AK-47? Do you also have a stroke when you see "peacekeeper" or "wingman" in Apex?
Weird gun names are a non-issue compared to item icons that all look the same forcing you to check every single one to see what they do.
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I'm pretty sure they added all the text after previous open test flopped and they got spooked by all the complaints that game does not have enough lore.
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It's the opposite actually, I think he should have time to look at the item in his inventory and read what its called
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The heat stuff honestly doesn't seem as bad as people are making it, even without the heat upgrades I feel like I could cross a good distance of the map. You shouldn't even be sprinting all the time anyways.
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>>559168276
I think Bungie's mistake is giving us level 1 characters for server slam.
It's a dogshit way of showing people what the game plays like when you begin with no upgrades and no decent shields unless you're one of those people that reached level 30+ like a psycho poopsocker, and those are the people trying so hard to convince others it's fine, because they got access to at least some of the upgrades.
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where the hell are they? why'd they give us the most ass designs they came up with? they don't look like any of the runner shells so i don't think they're skins.
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There's two similar effects, maxing out your heat gauge overheats you, which is basically just a long cooldown. Cardio Kicks are consumables that increase your heat efficiency, and I think also lower your heat, but I don't know if they remove the overheat state. Then there's the status effect that Recon's drone gives, which is like burning - a DOT followed by a debuff to the speed at which healing items work on you. That one can be cleared by Mechanic's Kits.
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It's over, the doomers have lost.
No sinking ships here, come back on release.
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i havent followed bungies in years cause i lost interest their games when they made destiny 1, but how tf did they fall so hard? i thought the destiny games were money making machines. why didn't they invest any of the money into their next project as they were working on destiny?
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