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>everything is viable!
>w-why are you asking the poor heckin devs to do a mission with garbage weapons? this is bullying!

first for FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK SWIGGERS
FUCK ARROWHEAD
FUCK THIS GAME
and, most importantly
FUCK NIGGERS (again!)

How can I deal with the difficulty jump from 7 to 8 and above? 7 feels like a walk in the park where I can roam around separate from my team and do objectives separately especially against bots whereas in 8 I don't even get a breather sometimes.

New player with 30 hours, playing with thermite, some sort of MG support weapon -trying them all out at the moment-, orbital laser and canon, grenade pistol, amendment, peak physique medium armor.

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>>559192659
>calls first
>is actually second

>no warbond trailer
next week.....

>>559192703
first step is to stop bringing the orbital laser

>>559192703
>whereas in 8 I don't even get a breather sometimes
stop solofagging
I'm so done with retards with the rockman syndrome on D10 bot front with flag missions who refuse to focus on the main objectives and instead try to blow up bioprocessors at all costs (they walk into mines constantly)

Okay now post the receipts of your donations to charity

>>559192703
>30 hours
Look I will be honest, 30 hours is way too little for you to be tackling difficulties above 7. I would stay in comfort zone until you got 100 or so.

With that said, the redpill is that there is very little difference between 8-10, so might as well go for 10 where there is a higher chance of getting good players, as getting good teammates can make or break a game.

If you got 30 hours, the reason you are losing games is because you don't get proper teammates or getting teammates that are on your level, which means.... things will be very hard.
Alternatively, "get good", but that will only happen after 200 hours of mixed bugs/bots gameplay.

I recommend tackling D10 on bugs (regular ones, not stupid rapturenigger or redditor strains), getting comfortable there, and only then start going above D7 on bots.

>>559192703
Stop using the orbital laser. It's only useful in very specific situations (usually on Blitz missions) and even then there are potentially better alternatives.

>>559192776
I don't think I want anything in it but I am looking forward to seeing if fire finally gets fixed to help sell the warbond. And also if shovel finally goes into the super store

>>559192703
Against bots you want something to quickly delete hulks, rocket striders and shield devastators. Something like the AMR or railgun works well for that role. You can make the HMG work but you have to build around it, like with a supply pack and PP armor or something. Your main issue will be war striders but you can just slap a thermite on them. Then you want something for fabricators and patrols/enemy clusters, like strafing run or eagle airstrike. To deal with bot drops, sentries and orbital barrages are good (I recommend the 120mm for bots, also works great on objectives).
Once you're comfortable enough you'll be able to use pretty much any loadout. Just remember to stay on the move when you can and not get bogged down and you'll learn to solo D10.

>>559193279
i just want the trench gun to be good

>>559192703
Just thermites won't cut it for killing heavy units. You need something to consistently and quickly kill shit like war striders.

>>559192703
You need more stuff
If youre 30 hours youre probably level 22
Get more eagles and sentries before some Warbonds

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>>559192703
use this, rest doesnt matter

>>559193437
>just buy and progress through 3 warbonds bro
saaaaaaaar

>>559192851
>>559193124
What's wrong with orbital laser? Should I bring a 500kg bomb for similar effect? I've been mostly bringing it down to clear big bug nests or multiple bile titans or chargers in close proximity.
>>559193316
Yeah I've been using supply pack and PP medium armor at all times, was just experimenting with Stalwart/MG/HMG at the time to see which one works best against what. I don't want to bring my teammates down but I also want to learn the game by playing at high difficulties.
>>559193417
I'm level 31 actually, so if there are any specific stratagems I should buy feel free to tell me.
>>559193414
Can stratagems work? Got orbital rail canon and laser but seems like laser is not very good according to what people are saying here.

>>559193462
new players and returning MOnkeys literally don't know how the galactic war works because the only way to even figure that out is to have it told to you by completely tertiary third-party memes like it's Destiny 2 backstory

>>559193662
The orbital laser is cool, but it's a crutch and less efficient than other options due to a long cooldown and limited uses. You can usually achieve the same effect by using another stratagem and being more careful with where and how you deploy it.

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Helldiver, you just fucked with the wrong bot! You should've learned your lesson on fuckin' Menkent! But you fuckin' monkey's never get the message. My factory built me that Vox engine motherfucker! You ever shoot at MG Devastators? You come here and shoot at my patrol? I'm gonna teach you a real lesson now motherfucker. Put your fuckin' mouth on the curb!

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How can you say Trident = bad without sounding like you have skill issues?

>>559192703

Hi Shams,
Illuminate content update when?

>>559194005
It's not bad and it's only used so much because it's the latest primary that people want to get to level 25 as soon as possible

>>559192646
>the weapons are mostly fine
>but when put together they are shit
Hm, wonder how that works

>>559194005
Who says the Trident is bad?
It's one of the best primaries in the game???

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>coyote that high on bugs
redpill me pls, I don't have that warbond yet but I do have 1000 sc

>>559194327
>overheats after 3 shots
nothing personnell, kid

>>559194342
Med pen and fire dot dude

>>559194005
why are you mouthbreather use this dogshit site and make it out that 824 matches are a big number

>>559194342
unlike most weapons in the game, 'yote just werks

>>559194342
Coyote is Med Pen high damage with fire
Fire melts buggos

Coyote is all around decent
Good AR but people will meme you for using it

>>559194342
It's an AR that actually works with a firedot.
Even with the bugged firedot that doesn't work sometimes it's still has better ammo economy and handling than almost everything else.

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>>559193519
>use CE
>spawn SC
>cheat medals
>can buy every warbond and their items in one evening
woah

>>559193519
everyone should have these 2 though.
>>559194342
it's good but overrated, it's like liberator penetrator in terms of dps and most of the time the fire doesnt do much.

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>>559194005
>How can you say Trident = bad
because

>>559194446
Not my fault you're bringing it to hot planets sweetie.

>>559194656
I understand cheating in SC because you can buy that with real money and in theory infinite but cheating in medals is just nigger/jeet behaviour, as you are supposed to unlock them with progress in the game as you get better.

>>559194803
If cheating in medals is bad, so is rigging MOs, since they give medals for winning them.

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>>559194803
>YOU VILL PLAY 20+ D10 OPS TO UNLOCK A SINGLE WARBOND

>>559194982
Yes, that is bad too. I don't think you'll find anyone saying the DM/MO aspect of the game is done well, even in their circlejerk discord server.

>>559189816
All of you are going on the list.

>>559190634
>I think the cyborgs augumentations made them far too gone to the point they lost the ability to reproduce like a human
But when they grow more humans those humans should be able to just reproduce, unless all of the grown humans are sterile. Seems like a lot of effort to go through when you could just breed normally. And do they grow all the way to an adult state before they are cybernetically enhanced? How is it that they are automatically on board with being a part of the cyborg collective off the get go?

The existence of the cyborgs just doesnt make sense to me. And it doesnt necessarily have to but they currently don't seem any different from the automatons they created, they just have biological components.

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>>559193928
This is why you bring Trident to 'borgs. Can't get captured if ya never run outta ammo!

>>559194779
lmao i bring the trident to steamy hot shithole planets and i only overhaet it once.
learn trigger discipline m8.

>>559194803
That's because you have a tiny brain. Medals are how you actually unlock the content in the warbond you've already (theoretically) paid for, yet the medals are capped to prevent you from accessing the content quickly and the medal rewards are pitiful. Cheating or farming medals is even more understandable than super credits because rational people understand wanting to use the content they've just (again, theoretically) bought as soon as possible. If warbonds were all free instead of locked behind yet another form of currency then yes the medal rate and intentionally slow progression would be more tolerable.

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>>559189816
Can't win them all. GGs thank you for diving.


>>559195270
sshhh

>>559195208
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT?
CHEATING IN MEDALS SO YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO PLAY THE GAME?

What is your endgame here exactly?

If every bugnig died of vaxx clot shots today then we could clear the map in a month or two

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>>559194005
>GUIZ GUIZ NEW STATISTICS JUST DROPPED!!!!!1
>Sample size: Nil
How about you use whatever you want and shut the fuck up about it.

>>559195306
Based Sargeposter

>>559194063
>da peepul jus wan it be leveled!!!! duh!! It's not good or anythingz!!!!!

>>559195426
saaaaar are you aware you don't have to stop playing the game after completing a warbond right you can play the game after unlocking every item in the warbond

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Why are the devs such dickheads? What causes them to behave like this?

>>559195426
Playing with loadouts i want so i can make fun builds. Le grind is not something that keeps me in the game.

>>559195319
Why are you replying to me and not the retard that actually called it bad???

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>>559194063
Cope

>>559195426
You play the game to have fun, not to unlock things. If your focus isn't on having fun then you'll get bored as soon as you unlock everything and then turn into one of those drooling cretins crying about "more content when" on all helldivers social media.

>>559195598
You were the one to brought hot planets as if they were a liability for the ChadDENT

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>>559195595
We're so close

>>559194342
I still like Trident alot more, but Coyote is definitely the best all-rounder. It has the advantage of doing it all with medium pen, good fire rate, good handling, good damage and fire damage is a very nice bonus.
It simply is a weapon that performs very well regardless of the rest of your loadout, so that's why you'll keep seeing it.

I would like a gun skin that looks like wood and iron cowboy guns

>>559195712
>Acting like hot/cold planets doesn't effect laser weapons just to not call out someone that said it was good
Bold strategy.

>another defense lost because bugniggers will literally never move off that front
can these fucking swigger retards split the galaxy activity into threes already

>>559195982
I want to be able to put weapon skins on secondaries because I unironically like the grey Helldiver weapon skin and want it on my Talon.

>>559196130
Yes I like the full white guns
Looks snazzy with the yogurt armor

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I make a dollar
I give arrowhead a dime
that's why I ask for jar5 heavy pen on company time

>>559196078
No because then Joel and his team of Indians would have to click "attack planet" on more than one front sometimes.

>>559192646
>Take nothing but melee weapons to bots
>Wh-why is the gun ship unkillable this is unfair

>Level 50 says "I'm not sure what to do at the terminal"
>Huh? This isn't even a pipes (ICBM) wtf could he be having problems with?
>Its the coordinates lock in part with the giant D4 in the screen.
JFC people with an iq under 100 should not be allowed to use the internet.

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I NEED STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

The seaf artillery mission keeps getting bugged and won't accept the last shell. This objective has been in the game since launch. How did they break it now?

>>559196394
There is not a single melee weapon in the challenge. What's your next cope, Alexus?

>>559196473
forced

>>559195916
I have no idea what you're talking about

>>559196646
stop spamming the button

>>559196473
What drives someone to try so hard to become a ritualposter/avatarfag
I do not understand the thought process

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SWEED LIBBETEH! M'LEYGGGGGGGG!!!!! >;;;3333

>>559196472
A tutorial that explains how the minigames work would be welcome to accommodate dumber players. I'm sure the devs would love it too since they could use it to demonstrate Super Earth propaganda.

>>559192646
>mostly fine
There's a few in that original post that are mostly fine, sure.
>FRV is fine, could use handling buffs, but totally outclassed by the Bastion right now
>Dickle is absolutely fine and powercrept the fuck out of the Sickle
>Laser Sentry is okay, it just suffers the most from strataball bounce
>Flame Sentry would be fine if fire wasn't fucked six ways to Sunday
>GPistol is mostly okay and pretty good utility, but the Ultimatum just powercrept the fuck out of it
>Stim Pistol is good if you build for it, but just needs some QOL
>Directional Shield is okay if you build for it, but really should just be a variant of the Energy Shield
>Eagle Napalm is underrated
>Deadeye is still fucking good
Don't get me wrong, there are some real fucking stinkers in there like the fucking Sterilizer, but a lot of the choices are "okay" or "good if you're not retarded".

>>559196473
Never kill yourself

>>559196780
extremely

>>559196942
forced

Lobby Doko?

>>559196998
extremely

>>559196919
I don't know but it makes me miss the Orochi ritualposter from /feg/

>>559196998
>>559196994
>>559196992
>>559196780
>>559196919
>>559197076
>>559197092
fuck off samefag go back to twitter where your hate belongs

>>559197076
it's fun doe

>>559197124
forced

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>>559196473
omicron or cyborgs steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241577040048/76561198088743

>>559194005
>THE highest DPS shotgun in the game that also has infinite fucking ammo
>bad
Huh?

>>559197124
frierenposter mad that nobody likes his forced "meme"

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>>559197124
No.

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>>559197124
Faggot
>>559197127
It's really not

>>559196965
Literally none of them should require more than 10 seconds to look at and understand except pipes which is only confusing because it looks like you need to route multiple times instead of just to the New destination. These people should not be allowed online.

>>559197160
fvll

>>559197308
That one pipe puzzle where you have to go backwards twice makes me feel like an actual retard

>>559197308
Oh I agree, but it might help to mitigate the levels of stupidity. It's not like we can ban stupid people from the Internet.

>>559196473
>>559196942
forced

>Shams is actually doing the meme challenge
>already said that the Spear and STA are shit
Holy shit it's working

>>559197572
This challenge may fix this whole game

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I NEED STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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>Potato posting in /hdg/
I knew you niggas had good taste

>>559197572
>>559197623
Please don't give me false hope

forced and mobile twitter filename, sad

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>>559197810

>>559196472
Some people never get to do these mini games

>>559197124
Just close your eyes and think of England

>>559197659
>>559197807
go back to gbfg and never come back

>>559196942
>>559196473
:)

Thank you anon. Only good posts Everytime I come back

>>559198147
ok is full of blacks and muslims. now what?

You owe it to yourself to play a better game.

>>559198117
Has Alexus commented on the challenge? I'd check but I got banned from their discord for making fun of some furry's fanart

>>559198252
samefag

>>559198276
Such as? >>559198276

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can you gamers give me some good loadouts for the 3 factions, im getting a bit bored of running Coyote/Ulti/Gas with EAT/Silo/Rocket or MG Sentry every game
same goes for armor, even on bots i just run light with engineering all the time

>>559198117
YOOOOOOO

>>559197572
>>559198117
Nerftroons, our response???

>>559198414
Halo: The Master Chief Collection

Give the halo shotgun medium pen.

New MO?????

>>559198389
Alexus only appears on the discord like once a month, so no.
Last thing he said was that they're never nerfing the supply pack.

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I thought it was normal for devs to be good at the game

>>559197659
>>559197807
Isn't this a man

The game is broken? I can't back to ship, screen freeze after rewards showing.
Also what's a challenge you guys talk about?

hear me out
heavy pen DCS

>>559198562
Excellent choice but I already own it and have 300+ hours on it.

>>559198728
Devs got challenged to actually play the game instead of looking at spreadsheets.

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>>559198728
Someone bet the devs $1000 to beat the hardest mode on the hardest planet and theyre struggling lawl
Bug W

>>559198676
Yeah, but most of the people challenged aren't devs

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this is why i drive

>>559199065
Are you by chance John Helldriver
Played with someone by that name and all he did was drive

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I like using the breaker and halo shotgun against 'borgs

>>559199130
no i dont larp name, i just drive between locations and play normally
also since when can you carry stuff, ie hard drive, and drive? i know for a fact that you used to drop it on the ground when getting into the turret or driver's seat but now you can drive with it. Very nice change.

>>559196473
>>559197124
it's forced and it's not even tangentially related to Helldivers

>>559198462
My favorite squid loadout is
Eruptor + Stalward + Supply pack.
Verdict/talon secondary
Fire nade.

Eagle Napalm
Machine gun sentry
Orbital Gas/Orbital Gatling,
Eagle Straifing run.

Can deal with everything and has great hoard clear.

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How many low levels lurk in the threads these days? I might start hosting lobbies to carry them.

>>559199678
Didn't mean to put the Eagle Straif as the 4th, that's obviously the supply pack.

>>559199724
I am 22, does that count? I run the two Demolition primary and secondaries that have explosion, thermite, then for stratagems I take machine gun, the dog backpack that shoots, gas mine and incendiary mines.

>>559198672
Isn't that what they said about the yote

>>559199948
yeah that counts, I'll be hosting one in a few

>>559200021
I have to go to bed put I'll keep an eye on the thread when it comes up. I also play on PS5 so I don't think I can join from the Steam links.

>>559199724
does 50 count?

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>"But the loadout is... LE SHIT!"
Yes that's the point.
>"If the loadout is LE SHIT then the game will be LE HARD!"
That's the point.
>"WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS HURRGUURUR"
It's to prove that the devs play like average players and not the sweats calling for the few remaining viable weapons to be nerfed to shit. It's to see them suffer the plight of the Average Joe and either prove themselves white or brown as shit by either making EVERYTHING viable or doubling down.

>>559192646
>guy who made the original challenge came back
>basically revealing that all of the "low sodium" Helldivers are harassing fuck out of anyone who tried out or was responsible for the challenge
>Redditors come to deflect with "ur just jealous and mean spirited and evil what if devs win huh huh???"
lmao

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Do you think they will actually complete the challenge?

Best way to get medals fast?
I don't care if cheated, i already have 20k SC

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>>559200449
>D6
>0 Reinforcements
>Half of the fuckin shots bounce off the titan.
I guess they forgot to lock in.

>tfw rewatching videos from 2024 about HD2
It's absolutely insane how they had all this goodwill from the community and somehow managed to squander it through sheer retardation

>still no roaches
Fix it joel you useless cunt.

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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241580733749

Hosting for low levels

>>559199724
coom in the mooms womb

>>559200319
Redditors are unable to comprehend that just because people can clear diff 10 with pretty much whatever they want that doesn't equate to it being fun or effective.

Tedium kills more games than it just outright being bad.

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>>559200831
>join pub lobby
>wow my teammates are fucking retarded and keep dying, they must have just bought this game
>it's the devs

>>559200949
do i fuck off and die if im not a newcutie

>>559200729
by cheating, just read the guide thread on uc. u can make the reward multiplier to 125 and you'll get 250 medals every mission. combine that with the cheat that instantly completes the mission and you can finish a mission in like 30s. abandon while taking off in the ship right when you see the 250 medals in the pause menu get added to skip the long ass mission complete stuff

>>559201121
if you're not 1200 hours you may join, otherwise you're all used up, (whore)

>>559200949
3/4

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>>559198117
>>559197572
>>559197623
>>559200319
I don't think it's possible for anything in the "we're back/it's over" cycle up to this point to compare to how fucking unbelievably OVER it's going to be when this "challenge" 1000x backfires.
We're talking about AH here. The playerbase wants good game balance (shit like the m90 to not be so shit) but what we're GOING TO RECEIVE is the amount of enemies nerfed so difficulty is effectively hard-capped at diff 5. ALL THEY ARE HEARING FROM EVERYONE SUPPORTING THIS "CHALLENGE" IS "THE GAME IS TOO HARD""

Idk why a playerbase where the phrase "monkeypaw balancing" is ubiquitous would be so fucking retarded as to challenge the devs to something like this.
I'm not even a nerftroon, I'm and buffGOD. But this WILL unironically backfire beyond anyone's wildest imagination and permanently ruin the game if they decide to actually take the community up on this and then balance the game in response. Screencap this.

>>559200449
Man I never did manual reload with someone that looks intense

>>559195281
>But when they grow more humans those humans should be able to just reproduce, unless all of the grown humans are sterile.
They should. They possess human DNA, they are humans themselves and they have scientific and industrial capacity for make a new vat grown human population with ease. Maybe their cybernetics, weaponry and industrial pollution make them sterile ? Cyborgs have powerful energy weapons like that power shotgun or the plasma cannon directly implanted in their bodies. That can't help making them fertile. And there is a lot messages in visible Automatons posters/statues that hint at Cyborgs considering them children. The Cyborgs being sterile makes sense.

>And do they grow all the way to an adult state before they are cybernetically enhanced?
They must grow them rapidly, and then implant cybernetics. Children or Teenagers probably wouldn't handle the cybernetics and it would be a waste to make custom ones for them. In addition their enemies could easily kill them during war.

>How is it that they are automatically on board with being a part of the cyborg collective off the get go?
I think there are two possible answers for this : the new cyborgs developing minds are digitally linked to an AI automaton nursery that basically just teaches them the way of Cyberstan while they grow. Or just a quality from being an ex-SE colony : heavy use of propaganda daily and teachers that know their way of life for reinforce it.

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>>559201391
>But this WILL unironically backfire beyond anyone's wildest imagination and permanently ruin the game if they decide to actually take the community up on this and then balance the game in response.
Good.
Let it burn.

>>559201368
>>559200949
meant 2/4 kek

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>>559199482
Nigga, did I just catch you having fun?

>>559201432
It can be good in some niche situations, but it's generally better to have 2 divers shooting

>>559201564
I hate the devs but I actually enjoy the game. I know most of /hdg/ doesn't actually play it, though.
Especially after cyberstan (where the game was actually difficult for five minutes) renewed my enjoyment of the game - just for five minutes later everyone to collectively forget AH is a bunch of 80IQ swigger monkeys and ask them to fucking gut the game.

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>>559201585
now we're 3/4, space for one more newfren

Was it one of the devs who said the Cyberstan MO wasn't rigged and that we just had to "lock in" and "die less"? Or just one of their official discord troons?

>>559201874
no, it was some community manager whore

>>559201391
>devs do the challenge
>say they understand the issues now
>they overbuff the fuck out of a few items, causing them to powercreep the FUCK out of everything else
>everything else that's in a bad state continues to never get touched
>the meta shifts to these few overbuffed items
>nothing actually changes for the better
Oh boy, I can't wait for the Spear to do more damage than the RR while having EAT cooldowns, Eagle Rockets to be a much more spammable ORC, gpistol to shoot mini ultimatum grenades, and the Eruptor to catch another buff for no reason (it's now AP5 and gets 4 extra magazines).

>>559201674
i think its really good with the recoilless on bots, especially on a defence mission or just during a lot of dropships coming in. you can rapid fire it and take down every ship that comes

>>559198462
These aren't necessarily meta but I'm going for a theme with them.

Bugs - The Rambo
>Lib Carb or Crossbow
>Machete
>Machine Gun
>Dynamite
>Peak Physique
>Commando
>Supply pack
>Eagle Napalm
>Orbital gatling

Bots - The Panzerjager
>Defender
>Senator
>Impact grenades (or Thermite if you can't live without it)
>Fortified
>Recoilless Rifle
>Shield Relay
>Eagle Strafing Run
>AT-Mines

Bugs - The HECU
>One Two
>Verdict
>Frag grenades
>Ballistic Padding
>Eagle Airstrike
>Guard Dog
>Bastion Tank
>AMR

>>559199724
>>559200949
>>559201808
Stop mooming here.

Sweden just nerfed SC farming. It's now 9 pickups per 50 seconds instead of 13

>>559201997
Idk about that, I just quit if someone on my team brings the RR

>>559192646
>>everything is viable!
It kinda is. Bar maybe sterizilier but even that has some kind of niche I imagine. Maybe.
These loadouts however were specially designed to be trash and not work together/against this specific faction. Like why the fuck would you give him a shield and the stim gun at the same time? He is going to be facing his teammates when he's shooting, it's pointless here

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>dinner time
>You need more?
>Lock in
>It appears you are losing
These guys should never have opened a discord server, they embarrass themselves every few weeks now

>>559201808
full!

>>559192646
>>(mostly)* everything is viable!
yes retard. a single weapon does make a loadout.
The scythe is viable as a primary, very good against bots even. the scythe and literally nothing above light pen or explosive in the other 6 slots of your loadout isn't.

>>559201956
Unironically the best case scenario. I wouldn't be surprised if they buffed the supply drop to not be team-wide and ruined every other bit of psuedo-teamplay. (You now don't need to be reinforced and can just drop wherever)

How come Super Earth command never says stuff like "hey guys if we take planet x we'll have planet y encircled so you should focus it" or "we should gambit planet w instead of defending planet z", yet the enemy factions are acutely aware of these mechanics? Isn't that retarded?

>>559200159
Personally i consider everything under 150 low level, but bare minimum to not be considered low level would be level 100.

>>559202176
You can just use the shield for defense and don't have to shoot enemies while using it

>>559202464
Only when they WANT us to take a planet and the players are too retarded to do it by themselves

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>>559192287

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>>559202616
>white guy around cyborgs

>>559195426
I put in at least an extra 1000 hours after I unlocked every OC and cosmetic in Deep Rock Galactic. I know you're a zoomer but back when gaming wasn't as cucked as it is now people were playing games because it was fun, not as a pseudo 9-to-5.

>>559202687
Ass rape D10 bugs

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>>559202616
>Fun game nigger

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>>559202616
>oh man last problem comes
>best feel pen cock
>french working indians
>koreans found release
>super anime
>anon mad, need lobby
good work everynyan

>>559202464
Because Joel is a fundamentally shit game master who takes on a combative mindset towards the playerbase instead of trying to provide an enjoyable experience. His need to farm izzat and act smug about winning while literally being in control of the game makes me think that no one at Arrowhead has actually played a pen and paper RPG properly.

If he was completely fair, made sure players understood mechanisms, and didn't rig things, I wouldn't mind him being utterly ruthless. But he's not, so instead we're in a position where we get the worst of a GM railroading and fudging dice with the worst of a GM being adversarial.

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>>559202616
>Eat bug ass rape D10 bugs

>>559202370
Only one of their primaries is light pen, the others are medium. They have 2 heavy pen support weapons, 1 AT and 1 medium pen. And explosives. What's the issue?

QRD on the plas scorcher

>>559202616
>bots lmao sex
trvke

>>559202597
You can also take the Eruptor and only ever fire it as shrubs instead of enemies. You can do all kinds of shit but that doesn't mean it's not retarded.

Forgot I had an Ultimatum equipped and killed 2 divers on a fleshmob

>>559203116
med pen + blast radisu so you don't have to aim
you will probably run out of ammo a lot

>>559200449
What always gets me is the fucker on the right has an EAT and could have just shot the BT in the face if only he wasn't too busy doing the Reddit Reload.

>>559199724
There are a LOT of them. Back during Cyberstan on the last day, i hosted D5 lobbies for this general the entire day pretty much, and a lot of low levels joined me. I think we should be more open to playing with them and teaching them a bit.

>>559203116
Absolutely shits on bots as long as you watch your ammo and hit your shots.

>>559202616
>ass raped 10 bugs
>STOP

>>559203365
>>559203438
Is it a charge shot weapon?

>>559203280
Uh yeah maybe you should lower the difficulty if you think using the directional shield for its intended role is comparable to randomly shooting at bushes with the eruptor

>>559203568
no, it's a plasma assault rifle

>>559203568
No, you're thinking of the purifier, which utterly mogs the scorcher.

>>559195595
what is this?

>>559196473
>>559196942
>>559197659
FORCED

>>559204125
Sneeded

>>559203592
What intended role, retard? "Defending" yourself is largely worthless in this game without means to counter attack. The purpose of shields is to help you fire back. Otherwise you'll be overrun anyway. Oh and he also gave him dual sickle instead of someone else that he could heal lol
Go back to Bangladesh you bad faith shitskin.

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stupid retarded game

>>559194342
one of very very few weapons in this game that doesn't have some wacky retarded downside that makes it feel bad to use for no reason

>>559196473
culture

>>559204284
The tourists are gone. We don't have enough players to liberate a single planet now. Give up. It's OVER.

>>559204330
It's just AR but with fire (setting stuff on fire is strong). ARs generally don't have any retarded downsides, this one is just stronger than the others, at least on paper (because it has fire).

God they really should just scrap the stupid self destruct mechanic on the Epoch and railgun the unmoded waring tells suck ass

>>559204608
>ARs generally don't have any retarded downsides
yeah but they all suck because of their nature except for the Carbine and the Coyote

>>559204235
>What intended role
The main purpose of the directional SHIELD is that you can use it to SHIELD yourself or teammates from damage
>"Defending" yourself is largely worthless in this game without means to counter attack.
You have 3 other players you can shield, lower the difficulty
>The purpose of shields is to help you fire back.
The main purpose of the directional SHIELD is that you can use it to SHIELD yourself or teammates from damage
>Otherwise yoll u'be overrun anyway.
You have 3 other players you can shield, lower the difficulty
>Oh and he also gave him dual sickle instead of someone else that he could heal lol
And?
Also I don't care about your jeet neighbor rivalries, please stop bringing up your subhuman shitholes

>>559204284
Bugdiver bros, our response?

>>559204284
>secure more planets than are lost during the MO
>lose 2 more planets right after MO ends
Joel izzat status?

>>559203592
Both shields are terrible because they hamper your offensive abilities while not being durable enough to cover yourself or teammates effectively. Not to mention >lolragdoll
effects applying through the shields, which also gives you a larger hitbox to get ragdolled with even if you don't take significant damage from the hit. Completely worthless.

>>559203613
>>559203716
Oh ye I got it mixed up with the one in the polar patriots warbond.
>10th page of standard warbond
Fuck that's a lot of medals

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>>559205169
>Completely worthless.
Wrong. It slaps, actually.

>>559205169
true the only good shield is the grenade shield

>>559204608
The retarded downside of AR's is that they're shitty bullet hoses that take half a mag to kill a warrior

>>559205009
>is that you can use it to SHIELD yourself or teammates from damage
>you can use it to SHIELD yourself or teammates from damage
AND fire back at enemies at the same time. It was designed this way for a reason and is shown to be used that way in the demo videos for a reason. Removing yourself from combat just so that you can 'shield' your teammates is obviously a waste of time.
>And?
And the point remains that items in that loadout were specifically put together to clash with each other and have as little synergy as they possibly could.

>>559205169
Directional Shield is great on bot cities where you effectively neutralize any threat down an entire street or alleyway. Bubble shield backpack is always good

Every time I think about using the c4 I just remember that a supply pack+thermite/dynamite/gas grenades is usually better and I can bring a support weapon.

>>559205697
But anon don't you understand it's a Starship Troopers reference. Do you remember Starship Troopers?

Is the B-24 Enforcer the only fortified med armor? The other one is like 400 super creds wtf

>>559206051
You mean the movie where the humans are objectively the good guys?

>>559204608
>ARs generally don't have any retarded downsides
The Liberator Concussive trades off damage, firerate, and accuracy for a bit of stagger.

>>559205769
>WAAHHHH IT'S NOT OPTIMAL
Suck it up and stop crying you serb faggot.

>>559206130
B-24 Enforcer has unique stats, it's a medium-heavy. But I agree, it's retarded they don't give you a medium fortified armor in the free warbond.

>>559205830
Bubble shield is dumb you're better off bringing extra padding or fortified

>>559204962
Half the time the enemy is dead before the fire even kicks in. Coyote being as popular as it is shows that people never actually tried to use ARs.
>>559205697
they take 2-3 bullets iirc. maybe 4 for pacifier
>>559206143
I forgot that exists but it doesn't even feel like an assault rifle

>>559206397
I'm tempted to buy it since I've been trudging along in heavy fortified armor but I could use the speed boost

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>>559206179
It'd be unoptimal if they gave him a Peacemaker, this is pants on head retarded

>>559206729
It's probably the single best armor set for bots (unless you're on a hot planet, you'll really feel the stamina decrease)

>>559206130
It used to be my go-to at launch, it's really good stats wise. I don't like how it goes with other sets than the b24 helmet so I don't use it very often.

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Last thread anons were complaining about some tier sheet had C4 at C-tier but I think it's pretty appropriate. Like the shortest CD with all the ship upgrades is fucking 410s and for what? Meanwhile portable Hellbomb is 256s and can be used to destroy detector towers and stratagem jammers on top of letting you bring like a Quasar which is useful if the game spawns more than 6 heavies.

Considering my survival rate with it i think it would be in super earth's long term interest to make medium/heavy fortified the norm. It's so good.

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>>559206130
Piggy up goy
Buy medium siege ready while you're at it too

>>559207256
>and for what
In most cases it's like having an RR but you don't have to sit in place reloading it after every shot + can blow up patrols better.
However, troonmites already do 50% of that and ultimatroon does 75% of that.
The redpill is that neither RR nor C4 are that great.
Also Quasar takes 75 seconds to kill these 6 heavies. Another overrated gimmick

>>559207256
... can you resuply a hellbomb?
>quasar usefull if there are more than 6 heavies
Quasar loses all usefullness when facing more than 2 heavies.

>>559207256
>portable Hellbomb is 256s and can be used to destroy detector towers
i can just call down the normal hellbomb strat near the detector outside the wall to destroy it 99% of the time, who cares about detector towers lmfao

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the C4 is an instant-reload one-click three-charge-max GIGArape of everything that's not a HiveLord
the sandnigger backpack, Retard Rocket, SchutzStaffel and EAT-Ultimatroonm do not compare in the sheer damage potential of this one little thing
the warbond about stealth gave us the single best loud tool in existence

Anon wasn't bullshitting they did nerf SC pickups to 90 every 50 seconds
What the hell

>>559207674
The chinkwank armor has been very tempting too fffffffffffffffff

No they didn't.

>>559203079
they are not fit for the biome/environment they are doing the missions in, have limited synergy, don't cover their bases, and intentionally include genuinely underperforming weapons/strats. Which is why I corrected the quote to say "MOSTLY everything" so don't even try to claim I said everything is viable.

>loadout 1: deadeye, redeemer, HE grenades, heavy gunslinger, arc thrower, FRV, laser sentry, orbital EMS
The arc thrower is strong WHEN IT WORKS but hive world caves against diggers is probably the worst place you can take it to. I can see the idea of coupling it with EMS to keep a horde or breach locked in place while you clear them out with the arc thrower but again the caves puts a damper on that idea both by fucking with the arc thrower and preventing EMS drops inside them. FRV is also mostly wasted on a hive world with interior cave objectives. Best use would be to use it for speeding between the exterior objectives Doesn't have any fast acting heavy AT. Non-explosive sentry against diggers is also a dumb idea. If it wasn't for the arc thrower this build would also have serious ammunition concerns. Heavy armour is going to be a big detriment too especially without the stamina booster, but at least gunslinger makes the redeemer into a laser pointer.
>loadout 2: pacifier, dagger, pineapple, medium feet first, Maxigun, flame sentry, eagle cluster, orbital smoke
This loadout goes way too hard on a single role and has no flexibility; all chaff clear with practically zero anti-heavy potential. The chaff clear is also all non explosive so diggers fuck this build up. If you had some kind of AT option taking eagle clusters over airstrike or strafing run would be fine, but he doesn't so it's a bad pick for this build. Smoke on bugs is a dud pick. Pineapple is genuinely a terrible grenade and needs both fixes and buffs. Armour does nothing for the build, even the default B-01 would have been a better pick.

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>>559202262
>hey guys, looks like you're reaching the end of cyberslop! time to lock in, lower the difficulty, and stop being such racist chuds! t. childless furry karen
in the name of Allah I will smite down these digusting infidels she will be on her knees begging to suck my cock soon alhamdulillah

I have no idea what I'm doing vs squids pls help

>>559203079
>>559208332
>loadout 3: STA-11, grenade pistol, urchin, medium unflinching, SPEAR, railcannon strike, eagle napalm, OPS
The only build with heavy AT but it's the SPEAR in a hive world caves biome. At least this guy has good dragonroach strats because he's literally the only one on the team that can handle them. Arc thrower guy is going to have to be spending a lot of time zapping chargers while this guy saves his AT for the bigger targets. He's going to run out of ammo to deal with chaff real fast too. If it wasn't for the caves the eagle napalm would help alleviate that issue but the biome is not appropriate for that to be his only serious anti-chaff option. Loadouts 2 and 3 are going to have to stick to each other like glue which I suspect is the point.
>loadout 4: Dickle, stim pistol, throwing knife, light adreno-defib, directional shield, sterilizer, AP mines, 110mm rockets
Dickle is very strong but you need to build around it. Dickle without any flame resistance armour, and not even vitality booster? you might as well bring the regular sickle cause you're not going to be firing this thing long enough to benefit from the ramping damage and pen without nuking yourself. directional energy shield on bugs is an obvious dud pick. AP mines cucked by caves. 110mm rockets might be okay in other loadouts with light AT to soften up targets or might work on bots to blow up fabricators but against bugs we know this is also a dud pick. That you even count the sterilizer as one of the "2 heavy pen support weapons" is a fucking joke and you know it. No explosives to close bug holes. In fact the entire team only has 14 non AT explosives for closing holes and only a single option that can close bile titan holes. This loadout looks to be a 'support' loadout that has very little killing potential but it's got terrible support options. easily the worst out of all of them.

>>559208228
worse than the holocaust

>>559207948
>dude just call in a hellbomb which can be destroyed especially if you're getting swarmed
Or I can just do the same thing with a portable Hellbomb but faster and guaranteed.

>>559207796
You have a support weapon that can clear up the medium heavies like the Hulks, and Hellbomb is a disposable tool so you can also bring a supply pack instead of being forced to carry both C4 and the detonator and use up 2 supply slots everytime you don't want to be dead weight. Ergonomically, it's shit.

It also can snipe bot fabricators from a mile away.

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>>559208420
machine gun + supply pack and have fun doing your jin-roh larp, thats it

>>559206717
It's one weapon that is still bizarrely designed.
Say what you will about the Pacifier, but at least it has a respectable DPS and accuracy (and honestly, its problem is that it'll kill before it stuns most enemies). The Concussive struggles against anything more though than a Scavenger, and only really has a place against Stalkers of all things.

If I could, I'd give it a 10 damage explosion on each shot, and move the increased stagger and push force to that explosion. At the very least, it'll stagger multiple enemies with each shot and slightly weaken them.

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>>559208649
kino

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>drive some fag around for most of the mission
>this is how he repays you
I fucking hate these literal retards.

>>559208910
>WHY DID YOU REDEEM

>>559208910
>real life tanks are designed so you can't accidentally shoot your crew
>swedish tank designs:

>>559208910
Lol says the scorpion
Lmao

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>>559202464
>>559203051
Yeah, the enemies can and should be attacking often but because of how BAD everyone at AH is when it comes to controlling the war, we're basically alternating between having our hands and feet tied or just watching a glorified cinematic. HD1 was/is literally better at organic input than this, the fucking jeet in charge needs to ACTUALLY ACQUIRE MEDIA LITERACY by opening and reading a DM book. Preferably RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>559208104
C4 giga ultra raped hulk surges.
4 hulks with 1 or 2 C4s.
It really showed off why C4 is so strong.

>>559207796
This can be applied to the RR or EAT too.

>>559206717
Are you retarded? The fire will definitely save ammo on chaff, the breakpoints are clear. And it's not just about the fire. It's the fact Coyote has decent ergonomics, low recoil, AP3, 45-round magazine, 9 total magazines and decent attachments. The second best AP3 choice has terrible ergo, terrible recoil and a shorter magazine and therefore less total ammo. Then the LibPen is just a peashooter that is ugly, sounds ugly and I'm pretty sure has the 3rd lowest DPS of all ARs.

>>559209479
>ARE YOU MAD?
>WHY DID YOU DO IT
>WHY DID YOU REDEEM IT?

I see no reason why the napalm EAT can't be just a regular EAT with fire but twice the cooldown
Right now it has twice the cooldown and is infinitely less useful than a regular EAT

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>>559200949
ggs frens

>>559209169
in reality people can't clip through solid objects

>>559208631
Quasar + hellbomb take double the stratagem slots to get a clunkier way of dealing with heavies and drops/breaches.
Just bring OPS instead off hellbomb and you can destroy those dreaded detector towers three times as often and at range.

>>559209554
You're brown.

>>559209664
i bet it was a fun lobby
so sad i was left out once again
it's like middle school all over again

>>559208910
>gets out for no reason
>gets out while the man is clearly holding down m2 over the driver hatch without any thought
>cries over it both in the chat and the thread
massive faggot alert

>>559200949
thanks for the game bros, was fun

>>559209434
EATs come with 3 quick heavie kills and RR has retardly much damage to compensate and can actually be reloaded instead of needing to cooldown.

>>559208649
So they have like no armor? What about their ships and War of the world knockoff walkers?

>>559206958
Unoptimal isn't a word and the stim pistol is much better to have than the Peacemaker

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>>559209886
machine gun rapes them. The stingrays shoot wherever, the tripods shoot them at the joints of the legs when they meet the body. Change the RPM when you meet fleshmobs to the max RPM to rape them too. When you shoot voteless and overseer put min RPM

>>559209886
Theyre strong alien beings who dont need armor and mind wash citizens to be used as fodder for protection
They will soon awaken their big NotCthulu God
Plus theyre reliant on shields
They remind me of Elite halo warriors

I use the breaker shotgun with Siege armor so I can pop zombie heads
Theyre meaty and take body damage easy
Fleshmobs can be killed with thermite and running

>>559209783
>for no reason
The tank is facing the enemy and I have my emancipator standing idle. There's no reason to keep sitting in the drivers seat.
It's perfectly safe to get out of the tank while the gun is firing if the gunner isn't a retard that deliberately turns the gun hard left.
You're the mouthbreather on the gun aren't you?

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Lads, what does this mean?

>>559209783
the gun was facing away from the hatch and the ape in the gunner seat had whole 2 seconds to let go of the button after the animation started before the driver died.

>>559209479
Which chaff? Most ARs kill stuff in 2-3 shots (including coyote) if you fire at the head (you will), hence why I think fire is kind of a meme. You can be a little more efficient with it at mid range against few enemies, but that's it. At shorter range you'll just be mag dumping them anyway instead of praying that the warrior dies from DOT before it reaches you so that you can save like one bullet. And Coyote is a weak short range magdumper because of bad ROF (damage often doesn't help it with breakpoints compared to libpen).

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>your anniversary content btw

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That's gotta be the DSS, right? Strafing Run has to be the hardest stratagem to teamkill with.

>>559209716
It doesn't have to be a Quasar btw. It was literally just used as an example because your support slot isn't blocked by the most retarded implementation of C4 in all of gaming.
>Quasar + hellbomb take double the stratagem slots
it really doesn't mean much when you're going to be cucked by using up both of your slots for killing what, 6 separate hulks at most? Then what? Better off just bring a Quasar that can snipe bot fabricators from a mile away and a portable Hellbomb that can delete jammers and detector towers while also being a useful CC if shit actually gets rough. Nearly a whole 3 minute less CD than the C4 too.
>Just bring OPS instead off hellbomb
And now you can't destroy jammers, good job.

>>559210419
i bet he's got she/her in bio

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>>559210601
It's cool
stop crying about free stuff

MO doko?

>>559209169
>>real life tanks are designed so you can't accidentally shoot your crew
If the driver of an M1 abrams decides for some reason to climb out of the hatch and stand on top of the tank and the commander or loader sweeps their machinegun through them that's not a fault of the tank's design

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>>559210716
Totally worth the next month of content draught

>>559210919
the real offender if the suicide door to the gunner seat.