when patch

>>562513514
Yes, that's why I know that you can dodge blue attacks and red attacks, and why I also know that if you interrupt a gaunt's pathing with a dodge you won't be able to catch it with a parry. Retard. Why do people who are bad at the game insist on giving their two cents?

>>562514502
Late July. Trust the plan Brother.

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>>562514502
In 2 weeks we will be told that we will get more information in 2 weeks

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>>562514763
I hate these useless fucking gopniks so much.

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Threadly reminder that lightning claws are an inherently feminine weapon

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>>562514763
>>562514998
Saber's making Fatshark look like a competent and diligent dev team by comparison. What a time to be alive!

Thoughts on the tech-marine? I hope we get a librarian at one point.

>>562515405
I like to dress in women's clothing so it sounds perfect for me.

>>562517259
Fun, if a bit too damn reliant on hogging up all the grenade drops or a Tactical in the squad.
Wished the omni-axe was a bit more involved as a weapon beyond swing + explosion but I guess the charge levels is unique enough.

>>562517392
>he doesnt know
charge is secret tech, you can charge into groups of minoris enemy and gunstrike constantly, also really good in those modifiers that reduce melee damage but scale them to 300%

>>562517259
Sniper servo gun too OP
There's no point using the normal or the plasma version, they need to buff both since nerfing the sniper will make the class literally useless
My suggestion is that the normal servo doesn't eat up charges when shooting at Minoris targets and only eats minimal charges against Majoris/Extremis targets allowing it to be spammed while plasma servo only fires fully charged shots at maximum speed instead of common shots

>>562517848
I like the charge but a majoris is going to load up a blue parry attack at some point while I make my way there or in the middle of my triple stab.

>>562517857
plasma just needs a projectile speed increase or not consume if it misses

>>562517259
>I hope we get a librarian at one point.
Anon, if they started working on a new class there wouldn't have been any content for months on end. They couldn't even meet deadlines they themselves set before. Honestly, we'll be lucky if they release anything reasonably big content wise in the coming months.

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>playing as non-host, but don't see connection warning
>entire healthbar is turned into CHP by enraged shotgun nid, but it's fine because I'm getting the gunstrike execute on him
>except I don't, despite the animation playing and his head popping to the shot, because the game desynced and awarded the kill to someone else
>neurothrope shoes up and begins charging his tribeam at me, but I'm playing assault so the dodge window is easy, and I get the perfect dodge audio along with the little slowmo cinematic effect
>but apparently the beam did hit me, so I'm dead now
I'm just going to have to stop doing anything other than hosting, this is getting ridiculous.

>>562517259
A melee class that has a primary weapon for some reason.

>>562517392
>he's doing the equipment build
lol

>>562518508
>equipment build
I'm not, I'm just curious why that build even exists when it's so reliant on drops or a Tactical. I run Precision Servo Gun + Melee Damage Amplification
But having more than one playstyle per class is a luxury I guess.

>>562517259
They're not adding any new classes anymore, they're just going to complete cosmetics for the S2 pack and they're going to move on to SM3.

>>562517259
They've already said they're not adding a Librarian, as well as saying that Greatswords would be a higher priority of being something they implement than Lightning Claws

>>562519043
>they're going to move on to SM3.
And +12 other games while they're at it. Don't forget.

Turrets should present a directional option when interacted; to prevent cheesing the decision only lasts for 5 seconds before it defaults to a normal turret and cannot be changed again once activated; can only be recharged until its destroyed

W for normal turret
A for flamer turret
S for plasma turret
D for missile turret

Each version has their pros/cons as well as ammo charges

Nerf the turrets but make them be placeable by the player himself. Half the time they're obscured by boxes and only useful if you lure enemies towards it, which isn't supported by the codex

Librarian would be difficult unless its class skill is only Smite and 2 other meme skills like Psychic Blast (small AoE fart) or some kind of buff/shield.

Apothecary is much more doable since they already have the backpack tech added from the Techmarine and its even more easy since the Apothecary's backpack implements aren't active and 90% of the work are done with the Narthecium and Reductor Pistol.

Servo Gun AND a sentry drop at will would make Techmarine TOO good and would require nerfs on both elements.

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>>562519968
Just make it so Telorian can't use any throwables and instead he can place his turrets. Maybe place some pick ups around so that he can collect "gear" to put together a sentry while on an op or something.
Only nerf I would add if they really wanted to would've been 1-2 turrets per boss fight.

>>562517259
>Thoughts on the tech-marine?
Needs some kind of health-related defensive perk, like more health, faster CHP recovery, slower CHP drain, ect. Servo gun variants might need another look but its not that bad. Otherwise hes fine.
Shoutouts to the nogames retards spouting asinine garbage ideas. vg wouldn't be vg without you dipshits.

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>>562520220
This becomes more disturbing after each subsequent watch.

>>562520341
>Techmarine
>can't use grenades
Nah, just make turret drops cap out at like 5 per game, 7 if they picked a prestige perk

Players will only drop them when there's a Terminus fight

Why don't they let us pick our equipment as part of our loadout. Obviously melta bombs shouldn't be included, but everything else is fine

>>562520565
no one would pick normal frags then, everyone will be using kraks and shocks
melta bombs should be included too but secure stockpile is literally op

>>562520565
To encourage players to scavenge the map a little instead of beelining it to the next checkpoint. Small as they may be, finding the grenades you want still gives a hit of dopamine.

>>562520348
>the class that literally shits out armor needs more defense
I agree, /vg/ always has the dumbest players for any given game.

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>>562517259
Combat Squad Resupply should have the effect of Secure Stockpile and vice versa. Tactical has so much going for him that not also having the best equipment restoration perk in the game on top of the rest of his kit isn't going to pain him too much, and Techmarine having so much of his talent tree revolve around using equipment, but then having the worst restoration perk in the game, is really stupid. Tactical, Assault, Vanguard, Heavy and Sniper all have equipment restoration perks that are no-brainer picks in their rows and have conditions so easy to proc that you will be doing it by complete accident most of the time (Tactical "procs" his simply by being in the game for a minute), meanwhile Replenishing Salvo requires at least a little bit of conscious effort in comparison and is competing with a faster Servogun cooldown and Augmented Tarantula.
Also the name of the perks are more appropriate for the other effect.
>Secure Stockpile... resupplies your grenades?
>Combat Squad Resupply... increases your grenade stockpile?
Shit makes no sense.

>>562520959
secure stockpile should be moved to the techmarine as its last team perk
tactical gets a buffed version of aligned aim as its first team perk, the extra grenade perk from the techmarine as its second and advanced conditioning as its third - to be removed once they add the apothecary

>massive wave spawns
>server crashes
lmao

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-3 stims

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what the fucking shit is going on with the AI director lately

>run into multiple instances of rocket terminators just spamming them endlessly
>3 fucking lictors decide to jump me and nobody else and kill only me
>recent match on termination features a carnifex that gets locked into a rush loop
>hierophant itself somehow locked into spamming it's shots

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hammer has the most satisfying attack to use with block

>>562521429
They're going to buff secure stockpile to regen grenades every 45 seconds, nerf aligned aim to be in line with transhuman physiology, and do nothing to the techmarine.

Why does every game I join today have such a poor connection? I'm in WEuro ffs

>>562528825
>block is le good
>already ate shit
>about to eat shit
Blockniggers

Can I get a rundown on the instigator compared to the oculus? Is there any value in using the non-heroic instigator?

>>562520220
AI videos make me think the Imperium was right about clankers

>>562532347
It's honestly shit. The only carbine worth a damn is the vanilla one since it has a semi-auto version, tons of ammo, and doesn't have a scope that blocks your vision.

>>562532347
>instigator
worse than oculus, an already bad weapon
>heroic instigator
better than oculus but that isnt an accomplishment

Oculus is actually pretty alright on techmarine because he actually gets perks that buff ranged weapons.

>>562533148
Grim. I guess I'm using carbine on two of vanguard's loadout slots then.

>>562533447
I use it for the arena bosses when I'm playing vanguard, since you get to switch out right before.

>>562532347
In my experience, the Heroic Instigator is alright when you're dealing with the Heldrake and Vortex Beast, but otherwise I just use the accuracy full auto Carbine. Occulus feels like a shitty middle ground between the two and once I leveled it up fully I stopped using it

>>562532347
The Instigator is dogshit, the Oculus has a final perk that does 10% more damage after you've used a class skill which makes it useful for Techmarine after using its servogun or a Vanguard who wants to magdump headshots after a grapple.

99% of all situations you're best served with the ammo version full auto bolt carbine in the first slot, a Melta rifle in the 2nd slot and the heroic Instigator in your 3rd slot.

Wouldn't it be nice if the damage numbers on weapons actually meant something

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>>562515405
No they aren't.

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I want em so bad, bros...

what does Secure Stockpile do in opersations?

>>562549187
Lets your team output 3 meltabombs every minute
Always* pick

>>562549640
it just magically appears if the greande slot is empty?

>>562549187
Regens everyone's grenades every 60 seconds, granting everyone infinite grenades.
It's continuous btw, meaning the timer keeps going no matter what. So you can use a melta bomb right before the timer ticks to 60, and then immediately have another melta ready to plant for example.
Essential on siege. You'll regularly be killing whole hordes and multiple extremis at once with them there.

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>>562549187
Regens one grenade for entire team every 60 seconds, there's 0 reason to ever take anything else

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>>562550050
>>562550008
>>562549640
>picks restore extra hp on ranged attacks
nothing personel

>>562549803
It only regens the grenade type you last picked up.
You still need to find a melta bomb to have "infinite" melta bombs, and their spawn rate is lower than the other grenade types.

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>>562550050
There are missions where you can't use equipment, Neophyte-kun. 3 hours in the Pain Glove.

>>562553628
Don't threaten me with a good time Mr. Poop Vault

Geedubs has taken pains to make us forget about Ian Watson and C.S. Goto's crimes against literature.
Personally I'm more than willing to forget that shit (pun intended)

>>562555524
I've just lobotomized myself and forcefully forgotten anything post-7th edition. I look at my guy in SM2 and go "woah, why are those marines so big?" Roboute Guilliman? Oh, you mean the guy who hasn't been around for ten thousand yeas? I don't even know what a primaris is.

i only cherrypick the good parts of the lore

I only cherrypick the good parts of the good lore, aka the stuff I like.

>solo absolute
>Neurothrope spawns
>horde of literally nothing but devourers, venom cannons and barbed stranglers spawn
This is the most unfun fucking nigger dogshit I have ever experienced.

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>>562553628
You think I'm smart enough to remember to switch off of it?

>>562559367
>I only cherrypick the good parts of the good lore, aka the stuff I like.
That's pretty much the way to do it these days.
There's too much for people to know 100% of everything anyways.

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>>562559863
You said there is never a reason to stop running it. That is objectively false. During missions where equipment is not allowed, you cannot generate equipment. This means Secured Stockpile is entirely worthless in the given situation. Thus, it should be switched.

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>>562568685
He's not the one that said that silly billy, I am

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>>562569204
Go away, Gold Ship.

If someone was going to hypothetically write erotica about a battle sister getting instant lossed by an alien, which species would fit?

>>562572025
The answer is always Drukhari

>>562572025
Depends on what type you're going for. Tyranids cover the animal fuckers and DE cover the ayy lmao fuckers

Only a miserable spiteful nigger would invent enraged Devourers and Venom Cannons.

>>562573882
welcome to the slavs

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I think I'm starting to enjoy sniping. It feels really good to see a horde of Nidders coming and to just BLOOP them out of existence one by one. I get a little dopamine hit every time I get the head shot hit marker.

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Sometimes it feels like I am pulling a cactus out of my asshole.

>>562572657
I want to go more for feral/monster stuff but if I was gonna use the nids I need something that wouldn't outright kill

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>>562576389
Gene Stealers are literally made to fuck genetic material into women without killing them and sending them on their way. I forget if it's the earlier or later generations, but they make individuals who are outright Adonises or bombshells that can woo the pants off of anyone in order to penetrate society's upper ranks. You could have a Sister get insta-lossed by a Chad Gene Stealer clergyman she discovers is part of a GS Cult that's infiltrated her convent or something. Maybe he finds out she can't have kids, so he throws her into a pit with the more mutated ones for some horrific gangbang action, or the Patriarch of the Gene Stealer Cult uses her as his own personal flesh light.

>>562576832
I'd probably make it a base gene stealer instead of a cultist since monsters are the point. Can have it try extra hard to impregnate the sister

>>562553628
>>562568685
>>562569405
Fuck off Fist, go eat shit stupid Fist

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>>562585405
Repeat? Your transmission is garbled. I cannot hear you over the sound of you performing oral sex on your Daemon Dick Lady. Please remove her phallus from your throat and swallow before reattempting to establish communications.

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>>562585717
Don't you have poop to worship?

You lost the Iron Cage
You lost against the Orkz
Your lameass Primarch is dead
We are not the same

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>>562588586
>>562588867
Transmissions still inaudible. Try again at a later time. Over and out.

>>562585717
>>562591827
"Repeat" and "Over and out" are improper radio etiquette

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>>562592752
"Repeat" is used to indicate previous orders are to be repeated, such as the bombing of a grid square, however "over and out" I will concede, is improper communication. I will not spend 1 hour in the Pain Glove and persevere easily due to my knowledge of my Primarch's love for me.

>>562592929
Repeat is used to order a consecutive volley of fire and for no other purpose. The proper terminology to request somebody relay their last message is "say again" or "say again your last".

>>562594221
Query: what is the proper order to request the removal of Daemon cock from the sending party's mouth?

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>it's only ok when Fists are autistic

>>562517259
Glassiest Cannon to ever be glass and a cannon. Zero fucking survivability or super armor, forced into using Balance weapons, and no ammo regen means you have to be excellent at resource management and not getting mobbed by sword warriors/spawn.

In exchange you get the best extremis killing ult in the game and all of his best primaries are headshot weapons so with a sufficient opening he's the only class I've seen that can out and out delete a Neurothrope in a full skill activation+mag dump. As other anons have said, it has shit grenade regen but if you're using the equipment perks you're playing him wrong.

Servo Gunstrike is jank to get used to but legitimately amazing and such great quality of life utility that it's hard to go back. 10/10 will die because you tried to gunstrike while your servo gun was busy killing 4+ Majoris and not the Ravener ripping your ass off.

He's fun and decent. Right beside Sniper in the "This thing needs to die now" department but under Tactical in overall metacomp placing. I just got him l25p4 yesterday, last dude I needed to max out, so now I'm just having fun testing other shit.

>>562532347
Base Instigator fucking sucks. Damage and fire rate is too low to do anything. Heroic Instigator actially is a good weapon but the ammo economy on it is hot garbage so only pull it out if something needs to die asap. Also don't listen to people who say the occulus is bad. The 2x headshot variant is good and the scope makes it laser accurate so unless you're retarded and zoom in down a Tyranid's trachea you'll be fine using it like a midpoint between the base autocarbine and a sniper rifle. As far as the regular carbine goes, most use the ammo auto variant for shoving the gun in something's mouth and holding the trigger down until ready to execute. You're not gonna hit shit with it past 10m though so it's effectively a melee weapon in your primary slot. Marksman Carbine is fine but you need ammo regen for it and thus anyone who can use it has better options.

>>562597660
i still use block weapons on tech marine
but i also more or less stopped playing him after finishing levelling and have returned to assault

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>>562576079

Me too Brother

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>>562576079
Hello fellow Templar Brethren.
Wish this helmet had laurels on it.

Any aussies on for some custom f*n?

>>562602151
Yeah I'll play for a bit.

>>562603223
Sorry mate, kinda died there. Will be on tomorrow.

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>get ravener grabbed from behind
>am in full view of my other two teammates, who do not attempt to unbind me
>put the ravener execute state myself afterwards
>will get my entire healthbar back on the execute
>teammate sprints in to steal the execute
>get downed
>alt+f4

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This horseshit is burning me out.
>>562605908
Honestly I gotta stop playing this garbage because it's just becoming a source of frustration. I've unlocked pretty much everything except for the Siege mode weapon skins so the only reason I'm playing is for "fun", and that's rapidly dwindling.

>>562610073
>I've unlocked pretty much everything except for the Siege mode weapon skins so the only reason I'm playing is for "fun", and that's rapidly dwindling.
kind of same
i do the weekly, a couple of QP ops that make me angry because carrying retards and random bullshit with the game, then go play something else to pass the time
i could just spend that time writing in the first place

>>562610073
I've maxed out everything in the game and at this point I'll only boot it up once every other week

>>562610073
They really need to fix up the assaults jetpack dodge its so inconsistent.
>dodge too early and it doesnt proc
>dodge right as the attack comes out and it gets interrupted

>>562621190
Don't forget the classic
>dodge
>jet pack damage hits before perfect dodge triggers and incapacitates enemy
>no refund
>one less charge and facing another dozen enemies

>>562610073
>block chainsword
Found your problem

>>562624250
it's not block chainsword, he parries the lictor
there's also nothing wrong with block chainsword

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>Raven guard 2 dlcs
>Carcharodons 1 dlcs
>Blood angels 2 dlcs
>Salamanders 2 dlcs
>Ultramarines 3 dlcs
>Black templars 1 dlc
>Imperil fists 1 dlc
>White scars 1 dlc

>Me a humble Iron Hands fan: "Wow Saber that's over 200 dollers worth of dlc. Some of which weren't even founding legions, and some of them got multiple dlcs! That's ok though I have been patient and would now like my IH chapter pack as promised by your roadmap.

>Saber: Pfffft ah.....we wait till april...ye....erererere...whatever....we make new roadmap now.

Do they really hate the sons of Ferrus that much?

>>562625236
oh, sorry, BALANCED chainsword. That's even worse

>>562625990
Not if it's the heroic. Easily one of, if not the best melee weapon in the game on bulwark and assault.

>>562625695
>IHfag wants to replace his legs with tank treads but can't do math
I'd say "many such cases" but thankfully Iron Hands don't have many fans.

>>562625695
No one gives a shit about iron hands thats why

>>562625695
I doubt even Saber cares enough about IHs to meet any possible deadlines related to their pack.

>>562626138
balanced anything will never be good

>>562628580
parry gooder, or just don't parry and realize assault's dash build is fucking insane

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>>562626294
What math did I not do?

>>562626760
>>562626917
>>562626917
>NoBoDy WiKeS dE iRoN hAnDs!

I DO!
ME!
I EXIST!
JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY "NOBODY X" DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE! MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A RETARD?
I HAVE A VOTE! AND THEREFORE IT IS FACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR """""""""""NOBODY"""""""""" TO LIKE THE IRON HANDS! HOW'S THAT FOR DOING MATH?!

AND WHILE IM HERE EXISTING IM GOING TO DROP SOME MORE OPINIONS YOU DISAGREE WITH!
>Pert is a shittier Ferrus. Everything Ferrus does, Pert does WORSE. He is a inverse mirror to Ferus's greatness. Proof that bad primarchs live and good ones die. People like Pert because he's a faggot and redditors relate to faggots.
>Vulkan is a retard, a hypocrite, and a pretentious asshole.
>Corax is a pussy.
>Guilliman is a traitor and a conniving dickhead. He's NOT good at statecraft. Only being a coward and usurping power. I bet he tried to get Yvraine in bed with him, but got too forceful and scared her away
>Primarch shit in general has devolved into comic-tier Shit flinging because of reddit and the comic tier shitflingers that it attracted. Space marines were NEVER designed to be heroic defenders of the imperium. They're mutants and weapons. Iron hands are the few chapters that stay true to that and that's why they're hated.
>Black templars are overrated.
>Carcharodons are out of place.
>Custodes should just be replaced by Imperial fists.
>This game needs more than two factions to fight. The appeal to 40k is there being lots of things to fight.

THERES MY POST! I HOPE IT KILLS YOU
CARO INFIRMA!

>>562630531
You counted the season passes and the pack DLC's together. Pick one.
>Seething about Gulliman, Corax, and Pert of all people
>Pretending Ferrus is more than a plot point for the HH
Delusional just like the IH's.

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>have an oc donut steel raven guard subchapter paint scheme for all classes
>they were going to do the raven guard voice next
>completely bungled the first voice pack by underestimating how much extra work it'd be and underdelivering on what the fans would actually want
>now they're just not going to do voice packs ever again

>>562631794
>You counted the season passes and the pack DLC's together. Pick one.
No.
>>Pretending Ferrus is more than a plot point for the HH
Ferrus was a soldier and a hero

>>562632587
They should have never done the voicepack in the first place though

>>562634981
It's a massive failure in project management to ever start it in the first place

>>562515405
threadly reminder youre really autistic and you should stfu

The wait is killing me

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>>562625695
We endure, brother.

Newbs should play heavy.

>>562657359
Newbs should fuck off.

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>>562632587
Anybody with a brain should have been able to realise that asking people to pay for a voice pack DLC not even included in the season pass that doesn't touch anything less than every single line in the game wasn't going to go over well, especially when they were prattling on about it having "over 500 lines" without making it clear that number included translations. If they had just managed expectations from the start I honestly believe they probably could have gotten away with selling it separately without having it blow up in their faces and being forced to refund everyone and give it away for free. I do like it for what it is now that I actually have it, but it definitely isn't worth five bucks just to hear my Skyclaw howl like a wolf whenever he takes off, as entertaining as that is.
It was simply unfeasible to do something like this with the treatment that a lot of people anticipated and never should have been attempted. What they SHOULD have done is give the already existing characters some new lines for when they're taking up a different battlefield role now that their voices are interchangeable. Would it really have been so hard or expensive to have the voice actors they apparently have on speed dial to do some new combat barks for using the jump pack or auxpex? Maybe even take it a step further and add in some squad banter for it, like Decimus ribbing Scipius for choosing to be a Jump Pack Intercessor instead of an Eliminator that day. If they were going to expend any amount of resources on voice acting beyond the minimum for new operations, then it should have been for this.

>>562632587
Good. Voice packs are fucking retarded and the least of this games problems.

Bolters still suck shit. Its been three thousand fucking years and BOLTERS in a SPACE MARINE game fucking SUCK.

>>562610073
>block player complaining the game isnt fun
The jokes write themselves.

Best way to make playing with the power sword not feel like a pool noodle?

>>562663196
>non block retard can't tell balance from block
C'mon, sport. If he had been using block, he'd have been able to stun all those Nids and hyper armor anything they through at him. His real issue is being a dumbass using Balance and trying to fight a circle of guys instead of escaping the group and putting terrain between him and the Carnifex.

The Codex Astartes speaks of this.

>>562663292
Don't bother swinging more than once or twice.
Just power rake or power whirl.

>>562663292
Power rake spam with the gaylmao sword

>>562663292
In theory you should be constantly switching between modes. In practice it's just "Spam power rake/power whirl endlessly"

>>562664438
Darktide got the power sword right. You charge it up for a handful of AoE attacks instead of a toggle.

>>562665098
>the power sword that gets tired and has to be reminded to stay on every 3 swings is "the right way" to do power swords
I got a better idea, how about they just stay on and there's no activation mechanic of any kind
Saber can feel free to use that one for power greatsword.

>lock the default VA's in a cage
>make each one record lines for each ability
>make a base template for each voice without references to ultramar, ultramarines, rowboat, codexwank
>chapter voicepacks are just the base VA's with flavor lines for a specific chapter and tie them to 1 at a time, scipius for raven guard or straban for impfists etc.
problem solved

Do you turn on your lightning claws when getting a manicure with the girlies?

>>562665839
Only when spilling the tea bestie

>>562665596
>make the game's audio english only
>only do subtitles for other languages
problem solved
>go back in time and decide against the entirety of the class system and each of them having a identity as a character
>reduce mission chatter heavily, or to 0
problem solved
>go back in time and make 6 likeable characters who don't explicitly say anything ultramarine related
problem solved

>>562663196
are you fucking blind you can't tell that's balanced just by the swing speed? holy shit you're a fucking retard

>>562648340
Youre going to be waiting until July lmfao.

>>562671204
Time to just go farm Havoc cosmetics in Darktide.

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Truly no other chapter is as raped in this game as the Salamanders, not even the Iron Hands. It's better to have no unique cosmetics at all than the absolute shit the Sallys got.
>champion skin is for the Sniper, literally the worst choice imaginable for a chapter like the Salamanders
>due to it being Phobos, none of the pieces are interchangable with any other class except for the Vanguard, which would be the second worst choice for Salamanders
>two of the four pieces in the cosmetic pack look like hot dogshit, left pauldron looks like an Ogryn went crazy with some glue and a chunk of onyx and by now everyone has seen how hard the helmet got memed on
>didn't even get a unique chest plate outside Phobos, meanwhile chapters like the Raven Guard and Space Wolves have unique chest pieces that are interchangeable between Phobos, Tacticus and Gravis
>Tactical can't even wear the champion's reptile skin loin covering as wargear like he can with the Raven Guard champ's leather straps
>even though the cosmetic pack pieces are interchangeable with Heavy, they look awkward and small on his Gravis armour, meaning the brazier is the only piece that actually look good on the one class everyone initially anticipated would be the obvious pick for a Salamanders champion skin
>literally three of his four unique primaries are weapons the Salamanders specialise in, yet they gave it to the Sniper because "he has a cape bro"
>pretty much guaranteed we're never getting any more Salamanders pieces since they've already got a champion skin and cosmetic pack

>>562660354
>>>/wsg/6123794

>>562665098
Why would you ever turn off a power sword

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>>562678719
this truly is a lamenter moment....

Does anyone want to play any games?

does anyone have a problem with this game causing connected bluetooth devices to desync and lag the whole game on PC? It always happens in the middle of a fight, and it ONLY happens with SM2 so I KNOW it's the game glitching out because the framerate drops to near 0 until I hit pause on the keyboard, then everything reconnects and is back to normal. sometimes its both the controller and my headset, but usually just controller. keeps getting me killed and it's pissing me off.

>inb4 kb+m

feels weird as fuck with this game.

Can you niggers post in this thread?

>>562682097
use keyboard and mouse or get a controller that wired if you can't do that

>>562692357
>can't use kb+m
In what fucking grimdark future is that less expensive than a controller?

>>562692575
Some people can't accept having melee on RMB and ADS on middle mouse

>>562679508
Its not off, its just overloaded

>>562690450
Games dead jim

>>562682097
Wireless is for babies and is asking for connection problems, play wired.

CEDK4 - Aus hard dailies and a custom if enough people.

>>562660354
>you should lend me that jump pack some time
>I would never want for a good vantage again
>said the assault marine to the devastator

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How do I get the blue triangle currency. I wanna get the final Chainsword.

>>562720058
Stratagems.

>>562720058
Stratagems. Normal is roughly based on Substantial, and Hard is roughly based on Absolute

>>562720058
Strategems. Normal is roughly based on Substantial, and Hard is roughly based on Absolute. Modifier combinations are not double checked by real people though, so they might make the operation easier, significantly harder, or even unwinnable - we once had an exfiltration where melta bombs didn't spawn.

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Still got it, even after a month long break

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>>562553628
Man, the default classic bolter looks so much cleaner, compared to the primaris variants, and they couldn't even let us keep that for the "carbine", because they HAD to slap a fucking vertical grip on it, on a gun designed to be held by supersoldiers with power armor.

The upcoming weekly stratagem will be Exfiltration with
>Tsunami
>Major Challenge
>Spoils of War

>>562679508
Maybe they changed it, but at launch it was justified as being a shitty model of power sword that couldn't stay active indefinitely/wasn't attached to a power pack on the veteran's back.
The force sword and chain weapons worked the same way.

>>562732075
So everything's gonna spawn more often except extremis and terminus (which already spawn more often on hard),
and pickups only drop from enemies?

>>562734594
>All waves are massive waves but are less frequent
>More Majoris enemies
>Ammo drops only from kills

>>562732075
>players hate Chaos
>have another Exfiltration weekly
Ukraine needs to bomb their HQ in Cyprus and Hungry.

>>562735989
Exfiltration is Tyranids

>>562734594
Let's be real, there will still be an extra Terminus spawn anyway because Saber can't help themselves

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>>562736263
>saber does [literally fucking anything]
>that one operative assigned to influence public opinion on current events in /sm2g/:

>>562736263
Yeah but the Trygon fight is aids
It likes to chain jumping phases with add phases and never actually do the damage phase

>>562737708
Use your damn meltas
Learn to parry/block its combos and go bring a flamer.

>>562737708
trygon is the most kino fight

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>>562737708
Drop a single melta bomb on it and it'll stagger. Keep in mind that every time you do this, the average pub player will immediately sprint from the other side of the arena to drop a second melta to pull it out of stagger immediately, but never engage with the mechanic outside of that

>>562732075
>more majoris
another techmarine w

Maybe I'm just being a jew about it, but only getting 15 doritos (compared to 10 for normal) for the daily hard stratagem doesn't seem very proportional compared to how much tougher it is

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>>562737708
Trygon is up there with tyrant and primes for one of the top 3 bosses in the game imo.
He stays out to combo often enough for me. I think they updated it a while back so he stays out more often though.
Just make sure you have a tactical so you always have meltas, and get good at hitting him with them. If your squad are top tier melta snipers, you can chain stunlock him into multiple meltas and really rape him bad.
Get good meleeing him too. The longer you can keep up with him and parry his combos without getting knocked over, the longer he'll usually stay out. Mainly just don't get greedy with gunstrikes, and watch out for delayed attacks. His tail whips are perfect dodgeable, and easier to PD than they look.
I don't think you can PD his vertical dive, but you can iframe through it, so don't be afraid to stay up his ass.

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>>562748217
It's not. It's ridiculously disproportionate. You're playing on absolute+, in a co-op game designed around three players where like 99% of the playerbase has never even beaten a regular absolute. And that's on top of nerf modifiers just turning off essential mechanics like major sources of healing, major sources of damage, major sources of damage mitigation, or outright buffing enemies even further in many ways.
Sometimes the hard weeklies aren't even worth it. And those pay out an extra 185.

>>562750428
I rarely ever see my teammates parry/block the Trygon enough for it to perform either its blockable double talon swing or its unblockable reared up lunge.
There's also an attack it likes doing when its burrowed where it sticks its tail out to do a single AOE shock attack that I always see done after a teammate is revived.

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Blood Angels (Elite) Force Commander

Farming dailies seem like a hassle to me for its payout. I just do weeklies and rarely ever lacked for accolades.

>>562752071
Yeah, at this point, hard dailies are just for f*n but even then those are becoming boring with how easy it's getting.

>>562752381
Even then, some of these modifiers aren't even hard. They just sap the fun out of it, like the ones that decrease your ranged damage. Making things like the helldrake boss take longer isn't fun in any context.

>>562751986
>That loincloth
>Yellow eyes
>Brass trim
No.

>try my hand at the weekly
>a bit rough with the parry timing but still manageable
>chaos spawn come in
>spastic fucks are even worse now
>the invincible enemy mechanic fucks me over when i can only damage one of them
>no indicator for it either so my team doesnt know only they can damage it
These fucking russians seriously need to play their own game

>>562760482
The indicator is the skull mark but I'm not sure if your teammates can see the skulls assigned to you since they'll only be able to see skulls assigned to them.
I beat it first try so I haven't had a reason to go back and check.

>>562692934
>ADS on middle mouse
That sounds awkward as shit.

One of the most simultaneously miserable and unfunny generals I've used. Is it just the crossover of obese, older and unhappy 40k fans? I know fat people are not happy people.
/hd2/ at least funposts at times. /akg/ funposts. You guys are just miserable faggots. The fuck is wrong with you?

>>562760860
>but I'm not sure if your teammates can see the skulls assigned to you since they'll only be able to see skulls assigned to them
You can only see your assigned enemy, and your teammates can only see theirs. They really should've made it to where all the enemies that only one person can kill are marked, and have them be marked by having the icon of your team's classes above them so everyone knows they're there and who their targets are. Really basic shit that Saber should've done but didn't.

>>562760860
The problem is that you get no indicator that an enemy is marked for an ally until you hit or shoot them. Slavs couldn't code something like all enemies show up marked but have the enemy that is yours be colored red.

>>562765038
Im off to the gym now.
That said I don't actually play the game I just hang out here sometimes

>>562760482
The dailies and weeklies are just RNG missions at this point.

The devs also don't play anything above Substantial and Dmitri is probably playtesting on Average if not Minimal.

>>562765038
To be fair the devs have completely wasted the potential of SM2 to fuck off and sell their other garbage horde shooters, as well as dropping most SM2 support for SM3 right after launch. Its hard not to be jaded, especially when every update clearly shows they do not play nor care about this game at all.

>>562780212
>Sm3
You idiots really think that's happening don't you?
The logical conclusion of this concept was reached. There's nothing that can be added to an entire new game that can't be just tacked on to sm2. People screamed for sm2 for years and when they got it they got into it for like 2 years and quickly lost interest.

Just admit this series has limited reach and (you) just like giving GW your money

>>562730814
That's why I've been bashing my head into the stone wall of trying to make the Auto Bolt Rifle work. Even with ammo regain, the piece of shit still burns through it all long before I reach an ammo box, and if I try to scrounge around for drops, I end up brining in a wave that for sure takes the rest of it. I don't care if it steps on the toes of other weapons, buff it. It's supposed to be a holy weapon of human dominance, as much a symbol of the Astartes as their armor.

>>562782481
>you really believe the thing they announced is happening?
i'm sure you feel smart

>>562782481
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/glahjvsr/space-marine-3-is-officially-in-development/
(You)

>>562750428
Trygon is not more Kino than Imurah.

Imurah 1 > Primes ~ Tyrant. The Primes would be higher if they didn't get bullied so hard with the right set up. Imurah is everything I wanted to see in a sorcerer fight. I love how his disk when he flies around actually warps the ground. He's got the skulls, seemingly opens a tear in time and space to bring the Volkite reactor from Machanus Divinitus into the arena, has shadow clones and fake out combos. Legit, they should've kept the game in the oven for another 2 years so they could've added more awesome fights.

>>562782725
>>562782758
>Yes I know Saber is notorious for lying, being cucked with restrictions, and missing deadlines
>But THIS TIME will be different!

Anon he's not going to charge. You are being abused

>>562783128
>SM3 is coming
>NO IT ISN'T
>Here is proof its coming
>WELL IT WON'T COME HOW YOU EXPECT
Do you really think you saved face there? You didn't. Kill yourself.

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>>562751986
>Shoots you in the tummy

Also, uh, did we get the update on the updated schedule? We're out of Q1 and I don't see any Iron Hands stuff....

>>562783375
>Things I never said
Tard you can't can't keep a fucking roadmap for cosmetic dlcs.

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Look at the squad. Tuff as fuck.

>>562783128
>they're terrible at deadlines in this game they've got a skeleton crew
>so that means they've out and out lied about starting development of the sequel, the game that they pulled all the crew to in the first place
Genius

i hate this fucking game

>>562783823
>You idiots really think that's happening don't you?
You are incredibly dumb.

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>Want to make a black/tan set
>Not a single tan color
>Not even a slightly related brown
I am so fucking tired of game devs ripping out basic functionality like a RBG wheel so they can pretend its content.

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Why do you hate studded armor?

>>562795094
>Ribbed for chaos pleasure

>>562795094
Why are you wearing a Fist leg with Ultramarine colors?

>>562795341
There's no Imperial Fists specific iconography on that knee guard, anon.

>>562798074
I dunnoooooo, the lightning bolts seem pretty Fist specific.

>>562795094
Really pisses me off that the lightning bolts don't appear on any other class when using that leg piece.

>>562791562
it all started with hats in team fortress 2, eighty five years ago

>>562763875
Eh, only if you're constantly switching between ADSing and meleeing, if you're just picking one or the other its not bad.

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>>562808432
>Eh, only if you're constantly switching between ADSing and meleeing, if you're just picking one or the other its not bad.
yeah why would anyone be doing that

>>562809014
Constantly meaning several times in a few seconds, spending 1.5 seconds shooting at something then knifing it in the gut is still easy enough

>>562798198
Yeah but they look fuckin' dope.

>>562576832
>they make individuals who are outright Adonises or bombshells that can woo the pants off of anyone in order to penetrate society's upper ranks.

Why don't they just make hot men and women and just fuck everything that moves? Is there some downside to this other than in lore xeno hatred?

>>562623309
This shit needs to go. I don't care how but they need to fix it.

>>562692934
Yeah I can't either. Good thing I can just rebind my keys. Do console players not know that's a thing or something?

>>562808432
I use MMB for grenades, and even then I'm considering changing it because holding it down to detonate melta bombs feels awkward.
Space bar is my ADS button.

3 Chaos missions for the dailies, fuck that.

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>>562756943
It's the Elite mod Force Commander https://youtu.be/SlEZohJK8t8?t=186
I just really like the DOW2 armor

>>562783383
Not sure, I don't really keep up.

>>562814692
>Space bar is my ADS button
what the fuck is your dodge?

>>562820462
Ctrl

>>562821247
fucking guitar players, man

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>>562822281
Pfffft yeah I wish I could say I made it beyond an amateur level of proficiency at the guitar. How far do the buttons on your keyboard sit apart? My pointing, middle and ring fingers sit comfortably on WASD while my pinky is on ctrl/shift and my thumb rests on the space bar. Feels fine to me.

if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assault, either through heroics or a new melee category, you're finally going to see assault take its place as best class
literally, if you put omnisian axe on assault right now every other class would cease to be relevant

>>562827052
>if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assault
You mean the power fist? Maybe the thunder hammer as well?

>>562827052
>if they add strong AoE melee weapons to assault
bro, your thunderhammer and powerfist?

>>562827474
>>562827492
>thunderhammer
extremely dated, not strong enough, a heroic that reduces the charge times and execution times of heavies would be about all that could save it
>fist
outside of the perk for the ground slam, which is bad, it's cones, you want circles centered on the player

heroic chainsword double stomp after all the buffs is pretty close to what I'm talking about, it's good but it's not good enough

>>562827052
As long as ranged units exist that assault can't deal with effectively he will never be the best class.

>>562827871
bro, ur jetpack dash? ur multiple sources of ranged damage reduction?

>>562827871
Powerfist
>>562827824
>it's cones,
which is fine because the more threatening enemies come to you in bunches and the smaller ones get smote in a single following blow or are just fodder for ground pounds

>>562828169
the more threatening enemies are packs of ranged tyranids, who spread out away from you the moment you approach them, and chaos in general, who strafe around you and teleport to all sides of you
also enemies that go for you while you are mid terminus fight, who never approach from the front because the terminus enemy is occupying that space
also easier to get thropes with an AoE bubble than it is whatever the hell the fist has, it clearly has some sort of height limit

>>562828169
nta but i hate how different weapons have different values for how many enemies get killed by a ground pound

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>>562828370
>who spread out away from you the moment you approach them
Which is fine because you can stand 12m away and still one shot all of them
>and chaos in general, who strafe around you and teleport to all sides of you
get one shot on the approach or even on spawn if you're standing correctly
>also enemies that go for you while you are mid terminus fight, who never approach from the front because the terminus enemy is occupying that space
And a big circle is no better when you're getting spine banked/plasma cannoned, you need to back into a better position no matter what which is naturally going to make shit funnel in
>also easier to get thropes with an AoE bubble than it is whatever the hell the fist has, it clearly has some sort of height limit
Most certainly not, it has a very clear cone you just stand further back.

>>562827052
Assault is still garbage.

>>562807432
Valve ruined gaming.

>>562827871
Assault isn't bad but bulwark will always be better

>>562827871
I will never forgive them for not using the campaign jetpack mechanics. A clear case of lazy game design, a cheap replacement, instead of saying "this shit is fun lets do what we have to to make it work". You can just tell these devs are soulless capitalist husks. May god have mercy on SM3 assault they'll probably remove the flying next and just give him a dash.

>>562827871
It wouldn't be so bad if the dogshit enrage mechanic didn't exist and you could actually reliably stagger whatever you manage to close the distance on. Only a retard would think enraged Devourers are fun to fight.

>>562828979
if you don't know how to set up his perks and play him, sure
otherwise he's the most survivable class in the game with the ability to shit out infinite amounts of very high AoE damage

>>562831095
Assault is garbage. Stop the cope.

>>562831139
let me guess, you also think heavy is garbage

>>562831208
No. And what you or I think is irrelevant. Assault is garbage objectively.

>>562831268
damn bro, that sucks for you

>go heavy and take bonds of brotherhood on casual lethal run
>tac goes down
>pick him up
>he grabs a medpac
>dies with it

How do people still not understand wounds

>>562831419
It does not, because I understand how the game works.

>Assault is just Vanguard/Bulwark but without the best heals in the game
Until they remove healing or give assault a team heal its a bad pick.

>>562831558
you understand that being able to shit out 150+ damage in a straight line every time you dodge, infinitely, dodging as many incoming attacks as you like back to back, as well as generating free armor literally whenever you do it, is somehow bad?
do you know what the word "understand," means? it doesn't mean "my ignorance has made me confident in my position"

>>562831503
Well assuming he's not a retard, and that is admittedly a big assumption, holding onto a medpack until you take damage is more efficient than just using it outright.

>>562831782
You're flailing.

>>562831868
lol weak reply, get curb stomped

>>562831926
You're illogically fanboying a class you like and too insecure to admit its objectively weak. There is no valid reply. You're flailing.

>>562831782
>you understand that shitting out infinite damage in a giant aoe with a flamer, infinitely, dodging as many attacks as you like back to back, never losing armor doesnt make heavy bad?
Rinse repeat for all classes, ect ect

>>562831693
>Vanguard
vanguard is a shit class except for his team perk, assault is easily s tier now with all of his tools
the only downside of him is his team perks and theyre not even bad, just okay

>>562832206
et cetera

>>562832206
>pyre on heavy
no
>classes that aren't assault dodging attacks back to back
also no

>>562832206
>all classes
wrong, not all classes

>>562832241
Ah you're shitposting.

>>562832368
>>562832330
>>562832270
You can play Assault without shitting up the thread samefag. Do not post your hastily edited paint reply pretending this isn't all you. Assault isn't good, Vanguard/Bulwark do the exact same thing but better. Cry as much as you want but that's a fact.

>>562832270
>ESL
Do not reply until you learn English.

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>>562832553
>paint
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>vanguard being better at anything
>fact

>>562832553
How is Vanguard not totally mediocre outside of his busted team perk?

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This head unironically fits the nigga chapter better.

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>>562832553
You caught me

>>562832764
If you have to ask that then you haven't played it and you should start there.

>>562832679
You are corrupting the language of your betters you silly little whore

>>562832764
If van is mid then so is assault because its the same shit in a different diaper
>aoe through executions
>infinite armor from skill
>brokenly op team heal that shouldnt exist
>way better range
>identical single target damage
>better parry/dodge/block windows
If youre playing with people vanguard wipes the fucking floor with that perk alone and if youre solo then its about the same

>>562832987
I'm noticing that the guy you're arguing against provided an exact example of why he thought assault was strong, and every time you're asked why it's not or why vanguard is strong you don't actually talk about gameplay and instead deflect with insults.
I'm sure this is just a coincidence and not at all indicative of your actual knowledge of the game.

>>562833132
>No period
Like I said do not reply until you learn English.

>>562833329
I didn't give you permission to reply to me in Latin script

>>562833287
Because he's factually wrong and not asking for advice but attempting to demand people treat Assault as anything but worse than Vanguard or Bulwark. Plenty of people have outlined why, repeating what they say so he can ignore it is pointless.

cease feeding the obvious troll

>>562833287
Assaultfags have been shitting up this general since release you should know by now they're retarded. How many times can you point out that assault brings nothing useful? How many times can you explain that sucking off a shit class, wont make it better or more fun? How many times do people have to point out how important team perks are in a coop game? It needs a buff or rework not toads licking boots because the devs threw them a rotten bone that barely fixed his issues.

>paying blue doritos for a curved chainsword skin that should have came with the white scar champion skin

lame

>>562828895
There are so many things that have to go right for this all to work whereas the other classes can insta delete all these problems while still being deadly at all ranges including melee.

Haven't played this game, I'm a firstborn only retard
Can I larp as a non-primaris marine in this game? I specifically need the older style kneepads or I won't be able to play this game without genuine OCD problems

>>562834373
You can get the helm but not the knees

>>562834414
Fug

>>562832764
>Tickle a head
>Rope all over it
>Nuclear explosion wipes out everything in a fifty mile radius
Still one of the best horde clears imo.

>>562832241
Vanguard can do everything Assault can do, but also has a primary weapon and 2 self healing options.

Been trying to play pvp as classes I don't usually play. Pvp class levels are my last grind outside of ordeals, which are basically cheevos, which turn me off cause they want me to do shit I simply don't want to do, like go replay the singleplayer campaign a bunch.
And wow, they actually made bulwark drop his shield if you shoot it enough. One heavy can just pin you to death now.
As if ground pounds, power whirls, krak grenades, shock grenades, vanguard grapple ganks, and getting pinched from any angle weren't enough weaknesses.
At least shield rush is can be helpful for getting away or chasing someone down, when it doesn't instead jank out and switch your power sword mode in front of a firing squad, or auto aim into the wrong person and let your almost dead target get away.

>>562833767
Assault may be shit as a team member, but the class can absolutely fuck. If I needed anyone to solo shit after everyone gets their asses kicked, I'd want it to be a competent Assault. At the very least, they can run away better than anyone else.

>>562837558
How did you get the one where you have to spot a Lictor before it ambushes you? I swear they don't spawn in until they're about to leap. Haven't even gotten one by accident. Their cloak is also good enough to where I wouldn't be able to see them unless I was tip toeing forward a little bit at a time and scanning.

>>562837907
Not him, but what I did was go to the one campaign mission where a lictor is scripted to hang out near the elevator in Servant of the Machine, and shot it until it fell of the chains and restarted the mission. I have all of the rewards already, so I have no reason to grind out the ones I'm missing

>>562838534
Ah, I'm always thinking too honestly. Thanks. If I ever feel a completionist urge, I'll remember this.

Today a helbrute shot me with the charged plasma from across the map while I was chasing a term and I bounced against the wall and lost 99% of my hp + both armours. Absolutely retarded enemy.

>>562839598
They lead their shots, if you run in a straight line it's always going to hit

>>562839723
I couldn't see it + that shot somehow did more damage because I got stunned on a wall.