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>Update 12.0 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0

>Hotfix 12.2 patch notes
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/367-hotfix-12-2-patch-notes

>February Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/355-february-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg

>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks:
https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks

>Other useful links:
https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB

Previously on the Battle-Barge: >>562513407
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First for the Grey Knights. Also, it would've fun to have a small GK squad appear somewhere on Demerium during the incursions. Even if they were just doing their own thing in the background so that Titus and co. would still have their own part to do.
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>>563392304
Zamn, Big E's place is THAT big?
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>>563392638
>Also, it would've fun to have a small GK squad appear somewhere on Demerium during the incursions
On my first campaign playthrough I thought it would've been neato if during that banner last stand part Draigo phased out of the warp for a split second downing some larger chaos unit and gave Smurfs extra few seconds before Ultra Depressed Man arrives.
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Iron Hands rule!
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>>563393474
I used to be a Pokemon fan too as a kid, Brother. But that was a very long time ago. Cool that it's something you enjoy and thanks for sharing!
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>>563392304
me in the sprawl magnifican
begging for coins
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>>563393474
>oh, you think iron is your ally. But you merely adopted the iron; I was born in it, molded by it. i didn't see the flesh until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but WEAKNESS!
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I can't stop laughing.
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The chat's fucked. What do you guys wanna do now?
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>>563395710
just got off my 16 hour shift at the ball crushing factory
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>>563395812
Just some regular absolute. I don't want to go through that shit again.
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>Ushabti Bone
There is no better paint
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Do you know what class can get the most Purity seals?
A: Tact
B: Vanguard
C: Assault

The correct answer is Tact at 11 with the Imperial Guard shoulder, followed by Assault at 10.
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>>563399064
>you're welcome
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>>563401062
Who knew undead Egyptians would be such a kino combination
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Which chapter is going to give the most kino greatsword experience when it drops?
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>>563405329
Blood Angels obviously
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>>563405329
Pic related sounds like an idea.
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>>563406048
Its such a shame that BTs are universally 12 and terrible players
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>>563399064
Is it worth the UM pack? Thinking about getting that for DG colors and the raven champ for the silenced bolt pistol for my sniper. Been using Wraithbone for my DG colors but it's somehow too shiny and White Scar is too clean.
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>>563405995
If it's an eviscerator then BA, relic blade is DA or BT.
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>>563409215
>is a slightly better off-white worth the price of an entire DLC
Final value judgement is up to you but the UM DLC is among the worst for value out of the lot.
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>>563409870
still the only way to get purple iirc
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>>563401058
>Valius earning most accolades out of the rest of his Brothers
Plus, you gotta love his commitment and cheerful demeanor.
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>>563413067
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>>563415264
Pretty dank memes out there on the Internets.
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Threadly reminder that lightning claws are rad as fuck.
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>>563393474
>Iron Hands rule
Lol. White Scars are better.
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>>563427962
There's nothing to talk about
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>>563428094
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>>563392106
shitter cant play hard strats. what a surprise. God forbid you play the other modifiers when you finish the weekly.
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are there any interesting things you can do with grapple other than execute aoe damage?
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>>563405329
Black templars or dank angels if you're a traitor enjoyer
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>BT or BA fan
>get to whitewash your smurfs
>SW fan
>permanigger

hmm
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>>563430631
i just tried melee damage maxing with the knife and it was shit. vanguard is nothing without his aoe execute
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>>563430631
I like Vanguard, but his issues stem from "you hyperfocus on a Warrior/Spawn/Rubric in a blob and then grapnel halfway across the room the second your armor is stripped" being how you're expected to play him. If it wasn't for the 30% Extremis heal, 5% Majoirs heal, and armor regen on grapnel use perks keeping him alive, he'd be permanently dead the second you fucked up a parry
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>>563438153
>taking the 5% heal instead of the nukechain talent
His biggest issue is extremely jank hook targeting and getting his hook resets stolen by teammates
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>>563439359
Don't forget his executes getting stolen by a warrior/spawn leaping into your path. I love Vanguard for the utility he brings but trying to go for grapnel chains is like having blue balls half the time.
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>>563439359
I open with the grapnel to squeeze as much damage out of Bolt Carbine headshots as possible rather than closing with it
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>>563439773
You're missing out on a second of headshots into just hooking twice to kill an entire brood without being in danger, I'd say. That is, when the hook targetting doesn't fuck you like >>563439491 mentioned.
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>>563439359
>extremely jank hook targeting
its reliable when you are in scope with occulus
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>>563438153
>if it wasn't for his op abilities he would be dead
What an astute observation Sherlock
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>>563449026
Thank you Watson, I would be nothing without your support
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dead game
patch never
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I jus cant carry them, you all suck so bad

i need my contested health
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im going back to minecraft
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>want to use plasma on tact
>have to switch pauldron emblem to fire support
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browsing the minis i think we need these guys. seems like sniper has no interesting weapons left. all he'll ever get is a knife.
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>>563459783
wtf is that goofy ass thing?
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>>563461668
I think they look cool because they remind me of the ryno
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>>563461668
i think it could be cool, basically an inverse plasma in which you click and then have a cooldown instead of having to charge. they could give it targeting copy pasting the vanguard grappel hook targeting.
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>>563458912
>Not using Vet heraldry on Tac.
You can be self conscious about your skills but I assure you it's better than agonizing about all the fucking roles Tactical can do.
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had a weird interaction where i got my full auspex back. i think maybe the auspex on parry also triggered my -50% cd perk
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>sniper hits neurothrope so hard that it instantly summons more extremis to rape us while were rolling around to avoid the aoe shock areas
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sometimes there needs to be 3 terminus per map
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>>563417690
makes sense
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>>563392638
More like second for the Gay Knights lol
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>>563484905
>Gay Knights
forgot pic?
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>>563486016
are we pretending dark angels are gay now?
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>>563486160
Pretending?
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The coop characters are all mindwiped blackshields who survived warp exposure like Titus
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>>563486347
Considering it's painfully obvious this game was meant to be Deathwatch shenanigans (based on vastly different character sterotypes i.e. Decimus making wolf jokes or Straban having Iron Hand autistic personality), what you posted isn't too far off the mark.
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>>563486268
I'm more amused by
>now?
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>that animation where a Guardsman pretty much leg presses a Hormagaunt off themselves and shoots it in the face
>Hormagaunts weigh 440lbs on average
LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYYYY
HWOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>Broooo dodge assault is so good now!
>Press dodge
>Fifty thousand enemies around you attacking you
>no refund
Great design
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>last brother standing as Sniper
>game suddenly becomes substantially easier
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>>563490569
gaunts being mountain lion sized instead of large dog sized was always kind of dumb to me
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>>563490569
also 440 isn't that impressive of a leg press and it can probably be easier if its an off balance creature instead of even weight
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>>563490569
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>>563491552
larger
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>>563491319
have you seen a tibetan mastiff
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>>563493289
Yes and they're sub 200lbs. English mastiffs and great danes are bigger but even they aren't as heavy as gaunts despite being a fair bit larger. Gaunts should be just waves and waves of war dogs not lions.
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>>563491429
>also 440 isn't that impressive of a leg press
Not in the controlled environment of a gym where the weight is evenly distributed on a machine built to be moved in that specific way, but lifting a mountain lion-sized vicious alien creature off of yourself when it's literal sole purpose in life is to kill and devour you, when you yourself are probably already starving and exhausted, is another thing entirely.
>and it can probably be easier if its an off balance creature instead of even weight
Pic related. It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you and there would be no secure spot to place your feet unlike the footplate on a leg press machine.
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>>563494968
>It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you
Sure but that can work against it on a creature as oddly proportioned as a hormagaunt. Shit is weighted like a hog, it has no leverage just sheer mass, if you can get solid foot placement on all those ridges best it can do is slash at your legs as you blow its brains out.
>Not in the controlled environment of a gym where the weight is evenly distributed on a machine built to be moved in that specific way
I'm saying that weight is easy enough that doing it in a much less user friendly manner is still feasible. I see people put on way more pl8s than i do
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>>563494968
>Pic related. It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you
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>>563494968
Using your opponent's movement to turn their weight to your advantage is practically the fundamental principle of so many martial arts
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A gaunt should weigh 140-170lbs on average and then swell up to 400 when its gorging to go to a reclamation pool.
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>>563496719
now i need chunky gaunt pics
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Good thing I had my rebreather handy for this space walk.
Everyone sees the Instigator as primarily a Vanguard weapon for obvious reasons but I find it way more fun to use on Sniper. It's far more accurate with the middle row team perk (to the point where hipfiring at point blank is pretty reliable), has better ammo efficiency with Versatile Precision, and shits out damage with Targeted Shot and Exacting Focus. The only problem is I don't think any of his third row perks affect it.
>>563495468
I mean personally I've never had to fight a dog, let alone a mountain lion, but my intuition tells me that you're probably going to get your face eaten off if you ever find yourself with one on top of you and your back to the ground. Regardless, my main point was that Cadians are dead 'ard.
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>>563499276
It's stuck with me my whole life that if you get attacked by a dog you stick a finger up its bum to stun it. I've got long arms for a good reach around so I will remember this strat.
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>>563499276
>Good thing I had my rebreather handy for this space walk.
hello /tg/40kg
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>>563499276
>but my intuition tells me that you're probably going to get your face eaten off if you ever find yourself with one on top of you and your back to the ground
Dogs can be done, even big ones, if you guard your throat. Big cats (like gaunts) have the problem of retractable claws which are going to rake your guts out while still gnashing at your neck. Problem with gaunts is that they're not really big enough to do a lion/tiger/leopard type pounce that's half a bullrush while still just having enough body length to straddle your legs while standing on your face. Gaunts are just generally very short, from nose to ass, with small tails so they should be pretty fucked balance wise, especially if they are actually big cat heavy under normal conditions. Having the gigantic scything talons is a huge threat but its pounce shouldn't really be as threatening as a real big cat, especially since the gaunt is going to be stabbing right where the armor and guns are instead of lower. It's not a proper utahraptor scale which is why it relies on numbers and should need animal terror to win (like war dogs do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becerrillo).
But yeah the animation where the cadian throws one off is cool.
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>>563499437
>if you get attacked by a dog you stick a finger up its bum to stun it.
I thought that was sharks.
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>>563502616
Unless sharks shit from their noses then it's not
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>>563504278
do dogs?
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>>563504372
I don't think so, but this question has stunned me. So if you get into trouble with a human just act like a retard and then run away.
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>>563504775
strange how my question stunned you, but the tip to defend yourself from a rabid dog by sticking a finger up his anus didn't.
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>>563459783
If this makes it the Tactical and Heavy will get it and it will be ammo starved and come with no perks for either class.

Scipius needs to be downgraded as a Scout if he wants to use this weapon, he's still a full Space Marine and Phobos wearer but that simple class change will allow him more weaponry outside of his current Eliminator kit. If he's a Scout he can use chainsword, bolters, bolt shotgun, missile launchers like that one, heavy bolter, plasma pistol, power axe, power fist, power sword, Neo-Volkite pistol, Thunderhammer in addition to all of his Sniper weapons.
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Is there a cap to how much time I have for a perfect parry? Like if I have the fencing weapon on my Vanguard and then have that perk for the extra parry window, would I have reached a point where it wouldn't really help anymore?
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Why is it so rare to find players who will actually backtrack/advance towards a more favourable position to fight a terminus enemy?
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>>563510626
Speedrunners mostly. The sage advice from the 'Tide games has served me well. In that you should never advance when shit hits the fan due to possibly aggroing ambient spawns or triggering more shit. Yet, all too often I've seen folks just trying to run to the next elevator thinking it'll solve the problem for them. Meanwhile I'm over here thinking of what I need in mt loadouts to handle all three terminus at any given opportunity.
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>>563510626
I had a Neuro at this position for today's daily and it was blasting me through the walls with his absolute bullshit mapwide aoe.
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>>563506650
Yeah, as far as I know standard Fencing weapons have their parry window active during all active frames whereas Block and Balance have theirs skewed towards the start and end respectively. Fencing *technically* skews to the start as well but this is only noticeable on Argent Edge or on modifiers that shrink the parry window.

With those bigger parry window perks you're basically expanding the margin of error for your defense type. IE, and as far as I know, making 330ms window 40% bigger only makes it a 396ms window that's still not active frame 1. This is why I roll my eyes every time I see someone claim that Chains of Duty gives Heavy a Fencing window because you're still gonna eat shit if some tyranid meaties you on wakeup.
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>>563510626
the absolute state of this game
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>>563510626
Low IQ players

You see this in Exfiltration
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>>563505036
What the fuck, scouts get to use heavy weapons and thunderhammers nowadays? What the fuck is wrong with this franchise?
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>>563530212
>scouts get to use heavy weapons and thunderhammers nowadays? What the fuck is wrong with this franchise?
They always did.
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>>563530414
They look so much better too.
Give me these pants and boots over those sinful form fitting ceramite greaves any day of the week.
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>>563512235
I had a neuro spawn on ballistic the other day with lictors and ravenors. And it immediately started doing those end running shockwaves.
My scrubby friends immediately went down because there's nothing harder to deal with in the game than a lictor or ravenor up your ass while a neuro is shockwaving.
I backtracked into some tunnels, and it floated over to me so fucking fast and immediately started spamming shockwaves AGAIN that I didn't have time to deal with a single extremis before they all frametrapped me into a corner.
I've never seen a neuro IMMEDIATELY start doing shockwaves before. Let alone spam them one instance after another like that. It played how I would play if I could invade people's ops as a neuro.
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>want eviscerator
>it's probably going to be a power greatsword so they can re-use all the power wave shit

lame
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>>563539109
We got power axe as a new melee weapon already. Just got omnisian axe too, which is just a power halberd.
That leaves power sword, power fist, power axe, and the o axe for power weapons. Shit, the knife is a power weapon now too if you count the heroic power gladius.

For chain weapons, you literally only have the chainsword and that's it.
They said we're basically not getting a chainaxe any time soon since they won't make it a power axe heroic. Probably never cause of their retarded place in the lore right now as "chaos" weapons, so that's a blow against chain weaponfags.

I think they owe it to chainfags to make the greatsword an eviscerator.
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>>563530324
I keep forgetting that we are all supposed to be Lieutenant Titus and thus use the character rules, rather than the regular dude rules.
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>>563510626
and none of them just spam execute on it either, wasting 20 seconds for no reason
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>>563502616
you punch sharks in the nose. SOMEONE's not a true bushman.
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>do normal weekly strat
>matchmaking completely fails
>restart to title screen
>try again
>fucks up again with a different lobby
>restart game itself
>8 minute loadscreen
Why is this still a problem
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>>563559186
Because idiots get all upset at the idea of just having a main menu and server browser with no pointless hub you walk around in.
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>>563529453
You telling me you don't fight the terminus on the desert sands where the Trygon is constantly burrowing towards you instead of finding solid ground to fight? What are you, a coward?
>>563535364
The fact that Neuros can land apparently whenever they want is the biggest load of shit. The only time you can anticipate it is after doing a burst of damage, beyond that it's a crapshoot. It's like a more retarded waterfowl dance.
>>563559186
Usually going into siege matchmaking and immediately quitting out will fix matchmaking for operations.
>>563560081
Are there really people who NEED a superfluous hub area that adds nothing except more load times? Even Saber apparently believes it's a load of shit with how they let you teleport everywhere important.
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>>563562839
>Are there really people who NEED a superfluous hub area that adds nothing except more load times?
Yes. Literally every single modern coop game adds this pointless shit and people throw a fit if it isn't there.
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>>563563025
What, are they worried people won't be able to see their super kewl spess muhreen? These niggers never heard of an inspect feature?
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>retards can't make a private lobby instead waste my time kicking me back into a loadscreen
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i am a turd floating in the bowl of the piss ocean
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I am fortifying this thread.
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>Doing Siege because I want that terrible bonding helmet before they remix the whole mode and god knows what the requirement will be
>99.99% of games either no one joins, or everyone quits after wave 5
>Magically two other guys stick it out
>Smash through 1 to 5 and 5 to 10 easily
>10 to 15 game is just throwing specials at you
>Whole time all I am thinking is either "My fucking dodge didn't regen a charge like it should" and "I wish we had heal on kills" as our poor Bulwark desperately tries to keep both our HP bars up
>Get to 16 and lose overwhelmed by the inevitable chaos missile spam of death chipping us down
God Assault sucks ass, absolute dogshit, irredeemably trash. Even if Wings worked it wouldn't be worth bringing an assault over Vanguard. Not in a billion million fucking years. Yes their AoE clear is marginally fucking better but outside specifically against bosses where clearly their huge fucking ass hitboxes triggers Wings properly its just the most shit bad trash fucking class ever. Playing anything fucking else would have been better but I was rused into this trash goddamn class by fuckers here.
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>>563587224
post codes and i'll join, i helped another anon last week get their stupid helmet on hard siege with another anon from here
aussie tiem too so you won't wait long to fill up the queue
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>>563559186
and they will do it again for sm3
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>>563587802
got a third here
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Why the hell can I still get hit during my assault dash?
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>>563585413
Good, Brother.
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im pinned down here brother
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>around 13,5k players
Not so bad by any stretch but SM2 had so much potential to have double of that at least. This is why they need regular weekly challenges with actual cosmetic rewards that aren't recolors. Even stratagems aren't enough to keep people interested to a sufficient degree.
>inb4 hurr durr keep your skill sharp
Sure, but this can only get you so far before you lose interest. Better rewards and more robust system with weekly stuff added would be a great addition.
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what do i buy next brothers?
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>>563617372
>had so much potential to have double of that at least
You're thinking like a consumer. As a soul-less suit let me tell you that announcing SM3 and putting everyone on that will make far more money than a thousand years of development of SM2.

Unless you're HD2 and their warbonds, coop games stop being cash cows after release.
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>>563617372
I had a conversation a thread or 2 ago with an anon who said he lost interest in the game. I had everything unlocked, everything prestiged, but I was still playing. I told him he just had to love the gameplay. Well, as soon as I hit the cap for Doritos, I think I did 2 more operations and I haven't been back since. I guess I understand where he was coming from now with needing SOMETHING to grind for. Like, just uncap the regular money you get for missions and I'd enjoy seeing the number go up. Maybe the gameplay was just good enough I'd put up with the bullshit, but it ain't good enough to keep the game alive. This is no Minecraft or MW2.
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>>563622531
Heavy plasma.
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I am going to drone bomb Saber's office if they don't fix the jump pack dash timing the next patch.
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Why are punches and kicks the stronger half of my chainsword moveset?
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>>563638925
Because someone decided light attacks should be chainsword swings and heavy attacks should be shoulder bashes and punches.
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>8 out of the last 9 vanguards didn't have unmatched zeal on
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This weekly is easy but the menu is bugged again
I beat both Hard and Normal and it didn't update despite me getting the blue doritos
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So how's techmarine?
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>>563645117
with a minmaxed sniper build, cracked. omnissian axe offers really fun playstyles and is a really strong combat tool. turrets are really good for area denial and his double shield on execute perk is also a good team support perk. definitely ended up being one of the better classes. not to mention his servo gun firing gun strikes in between melee attacks.
>>563643632
yeah it looks easy but a super horde mode looks fun. I really want the stage to be flooded with the little niggers.
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>>563645117
Meh, he's got too poor of primary and perk selection to work as a mostly ranged class but is squishy as fuck with a clunky signature melee that requires using the servo gunstrikes to function. He's very good at quickly getting rid of extremis and nuking thropes in general but the other 90% of your gameplay is obnoxious to deal with. Near sniper in tier.
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>>563645769
>cracked
>>563646063
>Meh
The duality of man
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>>563646163
would you rather I say bussin? or perhaps goated? does that tickle your fancy, unc?
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>>563645117
Mid to Ok. When you want to blow up some extremis he gets it done but he needs more primaries to work with.
3/10 and I lowered my rating due to how poorly they handled cosmetics for him. New class and next to no wargear? Fucking vatniks are constantly moving dates because Sasha and Nikita barely keep up in their drunken stupor.
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>>563646280
I wasn't commenting on the terminology thoughbeit? I just found it funny one person thought it was such hot shit and then the very next person was trashing on it
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>>563617372
I got burned out honestly. Idgaf about "honing my skills". They arbitrarily capped the currencies because we can't have people who dedicate their time playing the game unlock new shit once it's released. God forbid, eh Grigorenko?
What else is there to do? I won't spend anymore 3-5 hour sessions grinding siege for 3 (three!) crummy recolors for each weapon. Insane, but what do you expect from "people" whose entire existence revolves around misery and sharing it with others.
>>563628135
Arrowhead aren't sharpest tools in the shed but you have a sense they do something even if that "something" is making bullshit decisions most of the time (as opposed to Saber's spiteful approach). And HD2 has double the players (similar target audience btw) overall than SM2 which sadly is a commentary in and of itself.
>>563628135
>Maybe the gameplay was just good enough I'd put up with the bullshit, but it ain't good enough to keep the game alive. This is no Minecraft or MW2.
Yeah, I have similar opinion. There's nothing to do longterm, no leaderboards to "push yourself" and see how well you did. No fancy cosmetics or voicelines you can unlock (seeing how voicpack DLC went maybe it's for the better we don't have those). We're still limited to 3 players although they could very well make it four (pic related) which would be something at least.
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>>563646834
>as opposed to Saber's spiteful approach
CONSTANT spiteful approach
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>>563646454
He's objectively busted.
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>>563646529
ask about assault or heavy and see what happens
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>>563646163
ah right. sorry I'm used to people calling literally everything ebonics.
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F2CZE - Aus hard weekly then dailies if I can stay awake.
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>>563622531
>has heavy bolter unlocked before heavy plasma
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>>563658735
why would he know? we didn't have a proper heavy flamewar in several threads
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>>563658735
NTA but wanna get upset?
HPI is the only weapon in the game I don't have maxed out, and the only time I used HPI was to hold in my inventory while playing absolute with only a HBP and stomp.
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>>563645117
Fun to play but if he ever loses his armor he will die from a wet fart. He is the only class in the game without multiple layers of defensive perks or tech.
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>>563658735
>>563659948
I did this and it's based

plasma weapons r gay

big GUNZ are SICK
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RIP
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>>563662146
he looks like he's
seen some shit
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>>563617372
we should be able to unlock extra purity seals as rewards I wish to be the purest marine.
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The chaos marine armors are wayyyyy too good looking to be pvp exclusive
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Test
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The fact that it's difficult to post doesn't mean that you can just let the thread die.
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>>563678768
Why?
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I haven't played for a while, and I gotta say, on Techmarine I'm actually enjoying balanced.
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>>563678768
Death is always part of the cycle of rebirth.

From a corpse comes pores, blisters, pus and rotting guts. A beautiful cacophony of destruction and decay.
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>>563679026
No
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>>563678768
i don't see how these are related.
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>>563678961
block is too slow and fencing does no damage
its the obvious choice
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>>563646163
>>563645117
The duality comes from how situational he is. His turrets especially with the perk that buffs them are OP when you have them. Free infinite damage with a fast TTK on nearly everything. But no turret and he has no use case in that area.

His sniper is insane, even Tact can't melt certain bosses as fast as he can, but the problem is that its 'certain' and not 'all' bosses unlike Tact who can make any boss vulnerable. You also have to land headshots or else its largely useless which requires difficult positioning. However I wouldn't discount how strong the sniper is against hordes either because it can wipe packs of medium enemies easily.

His omni is fantastic if there are lots of small enemies around, charging through them + gunstriking as you go is infinite armor recovery. No smalls around? You're fucked. Fighting a single target? Its highest DPS comes from long range charging, anything in your face is a detriment.

His equipment buffs are extremely strong and you can become a monster with shock grenades. If you find them, and have a Tact to give you one every 60s (because one every 75s on a sniper kill is not enough), and if you're playing hard siege.

Its just poorly designed top to bottom. Its not a class that consistently provides power. If you brought the two most powerful classes being Tact and Bulwark you wouldn't pick Tech as your third.
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I love fisting.
I want to love thunder hammer
Please buff it.
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>35% less hp in weekly means gaunts get one shot by thunderhammer lights
This is so much more fun (and usable) its unreal
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>>563638925
Because the game has this bizarre design philosophy where if you're not using the strongest attacks available then you may as well not be doing anything at all. Even ranged weapons are like this with headshots vs bodyshots, unless you're using plasma, fire or melta. It takes like over 70 bodyshots from the bolt rifle to kill a majoris; of course you should be trying to hit their head at all times, but the fact that a stray bodyshot is so negligible to the point where you may as well have missed completely is totally inexplicable.
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>>563692858
this weekly ruined the game for me
35% less health is great
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AS UGLY INSIDE AS OUTSIDE
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>>563692858
>Been trying Kraken Penetrator rounds for Auto Carbine Tactical.
>This weekly.
>A single bolt rifle shot kills a gaunt even on a body shot.
Hey wait this is fun...
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>>563692858
Turns out Saber finally found the balance point for bolters
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Picture test.
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>>563707137
>>563707357
>introduce a nice change into the game albeit through a temporary modifier
>people like it
>Grigorenko goes pic related
We can't have (permanent) nice things can we?
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>>563708983
Bolters are not allowed to be good, as they are the starter weapons that you swap off of by middle game. Grigorenko was told so by the pink elephants
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>>563708561
>>563712326
clanker
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>>563708983
Since everyone on Discord and Steam forums love it you can bet it'll never appear on a weekly again.
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>>563713237
No, that's Mihono Bourbon.
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>>563713428
>it'll never appear on a weekly again.
It will never appear again. Sadly.
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>>563713237
I am not abdominal intelligence. To be unable to tell the difference is a sign you are corrupted
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>>563714395
it means we need custom strats with massive waves on reduced health. hilarious that these niggers made the extra minoris/majoris/extremis modifiers exclusive to one another. could have been the shit.
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>>563708983
What is going through his head right now is
>that's a lot of people liking the current stratagem
>nice for the bad players to have some fun for once I guess but we've gotta consider the silent majority of players that are good enough to handle CBT
>prepare the ball-twisters, staff!
>I'm so happy to provide this to all the people that love our hardest content
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>>563714981
It's 2026 and somehow it's not industry standard to allow players to mess around with variables to personalise their experience.
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>>563718184
Personalizing your experience just makes me not wanna play the game. I like being presented with a challenge and overcoming it. If I could tweak the experience so I win, it loses all value. I'll always be questioning whether or not I actually overcame something or if I pussied out and made the game just easy enough for me to win. Victory only tastes sweet when I have to work for it.
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>>563719658
not him, but nothing would stop you from stacking the odds against you to heart's content. I agree that the more options to play the game we have, custom sessions included, would only works to the benefit of SM2.
And most importantly, it was already said itt, but after all this time the game still feels very barebones because there's nothing to work towards.
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>>563719658
>I like being presented with a challenge
Couldn't you make your own then if presented with the tools for it?
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>>563719825
Yeah, but unless it's max difficulty, I'll still be thinking I subconsciously made it too easy.
>>563719913
If I beat it, then it's because I made it too easy for myself. When someone else gives you a challenge, they don't know what you're capable of.
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>>563708983
I think it makes majoris a little too squishy but you absolutely should be able to cleave through minoris with light attacks and bodyshots.
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>>563720020
>I'll still be thinking I subconsciously made it too easy.
Well, it depends on how you approach it. I get where you're coming from, but it's all about the mindset.

That being said you could roll some modifiers or look up what people cook up with custom setting and apply those in your own session. That's still a challenge regardless of who chooses the mods. The issue imo is the main man at Saber equates CBT with fun and obviously he just assumes everybody will too (maybe given enough time). I won't go off on a tangent with "muh power fantasy" but at the end of the day it's a video game meant to entertain so customzation of that experience would be great. Sad that Grigorenko doesn't understand that and there's no one there to curb his enthusiasm a bit. Just sayin'.
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I don't want to catch anyone claiming that Sniper is bad ever again. For a while I didn't think he could hoof it in Chaos missions but he absolutely can carry his weight, so he's just this class that can perform adequately in most situations and is nigh-unkillable with his "that was fucking bullshit, I declare take-backsies" button.
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>>563721746
Not sure who even says that sniper is bad. His only weakness is that it's worse than most other classes in siege because he lacks a good source of constant aoe damage, but in operations he's totally viable and good and has been since release.
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>>563723859
everyone does. sure you can do fantastic things if you play sniper everyday like >>563721746 does, but unless you are some kind of performative gamer why would you want to sink hours to get t o that level in an abandoned two year old game.
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>>563724093
I didn't even do anything that extraordinary, was really just showcasing how retardedly good Sniper is at reversing the typical bullshit the game will throw at you.
>why would you want to sink hours to get t o that level in an abandoned two year old game
It's fun. I've unlocked everything you can possibly unlock and all my currencies are maxed out; I just run normal absolute because I enjoy it.
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>>563724797
>spoiler
fair enough, i remember when it was fun for me too and i played everyday. But these days I don't have time to practice and can only bullshit my way through absolute with boomwark.
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>>563724093
Why not? Just like >>563724797 anon I have everything unlocked as well. I just play this game because I enjoy the gameplay.
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>watching the one class without an equipment restoration perk pick up a melta bomb before I can reach it
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>>563728415
>watching people run past melta bombs when you already have one
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>>563730360
I never pick up melta bombs because I just kill myself with them

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