>>563279267
i'm done, im gonna make OPs from now on
IN THE SUBJECT PART IT SHOULD SAY ASWG AND GGG NOT THE EDITION

>>563279652
The edition is the most important part

>>563279592
there's no way her wraps wick sweat properly
when she takes of her boots it must be like a pressurized pipe erupting with steam

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FINE!! i took the Giopill
do i really need rush to face with her or can i slightly play like OG Ryu and try space out rely and DP? Her DP is good right? She is Ken clone after all.

>>563279592
So how does she fuck the key

>>563279267
Based Robo-Ky fag.

Potemkin is still fucking retarded, probably even better now due to lower general power levels
He still has infinity health, infinity burst, infinity damage, can't be anti aired while he can anti air you by just flailing any of his full screen normals like a retard

>>563280091
>am I supposed to play Rushdown with the Cammy function who has a dash she can cancel in to any one of her normals

>>563280091
explain how she's a ken clone

>>563280367
>>563280402
So shes Cammy now?! Never played her but SF streamers said she plays like Ken.

>IB all 5 hits of bridgets gatling
>fuck up 6Ping through the projectile
im sick of getting washed despite being godlike

>>563280609
she has a unique step dash, spiral arrow, no fireball and her dp isn't a dp lmfao she's not a fucking shoto at all

Yo, I'm new to the game and decided to pick Slayer. There's something I don't understand about how his combos work, since sometimes the link into c.s from f.s will drop at the same distance and with the same timing. Honestly all links from f.s seem to occasionally just drop. I can't pinpoint why it's seemingly randomly dropping and it's driving me mad.

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>learning and mashing it out in gold/plat with sol
>5S xx 5H xx fanfnir through 60% of people's lifebar
>c.S xx run grab and stagger pressure through the rest of them
>mirror match with someone higher in rank
>find out you can get grabbed out of fanfnir
>5H xx fanfnir PRC jump and wreck their shit
damn, this game is actually kinda fun.
tho normal throws in this game are weird, i never think of them as a punish tool.
also, can i get a QRD on blocked jump attacks?
i'm too used to SF where they are giga plus in all situations

>>563281131
what game tho

do you consider blazblue 1 game with multiple versions, or the multiple versions as separate games?

>>563281641
Strive.

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This is frying my brain man I’m about to go back to mashing with Es

>>563281162
funny adaptation
good job newsol
>After landing from an empty jump:
>1~6F cannot do any movement options except backdash
>7F onwards all actions possible
>After performing an action in the air (air jumping, air dashing, any air attack without specified landing recovery):
>1~3F after landing is normal recovery (cannot do any action such as blocking, attacking, moving etc...)
>4F onwards all actions possible
>Instant blocking a strike in the air reduces the 19 frame landing recovery to 5 frames
basically if you're in the middle of an action when you land, your recovery is faster. if you empty jump your recovery is longer. if you IB while airborne your landing recovery is much faster than if you normal block

>>563281870
Yeah I think I prefer "sauceless" GGST over this shit.
>3C~9hjc>dl.5B
Miss me with this fake shit.

>>563282149
Okay personally if I had to choose between strive or specifically playing Izanami I’d still pick Izanami

>>563282149
it's just a sweep and a jump cancel i think

i thought 2.0 would have a rape cancel button by this point

Why is everyone talking about Blazblue?

>>563282149
She's a high execution character though've, she's not a standard example of what the game's combos are like

>>563282325
High jump cancel into delayed ground normal.
Why? Like seriously why.

>>563281668
Seperate games. Why? Each 50 hour story modes and the arcade story modes justify it as seperate games.

high jump cancels are so dumb lmfao, literally zero depth added just an arbitrary extra input for no reason

drop the /aswg/
the only generals that matter are /ggg/ and /dbfzg/

>>563282353
The aswg name is still here.

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>yeah bro BBCF combos aren't overcomplicated they're quite simple trust me
>meanwhile lowly basic launcher combos

>>563282353
It’s a pretty cool game and I’m trying to get into it more lately.
>>563282686
See the Izanami combo looks like a mess to me but I can at least understand this.

>>563282607
i think they're fun once you get used to them. i like when they're used in combos where you super jump, slam them to the ground, then continue comboing on the way down before they tech. shit makes me feel like a dbz character

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Luv me some basic combos

>>563282607
I have to super jump for combos in +R, Xrd and Strive but it only annoys me in Strive because it's easy to accidentally get a TK 236K when I try to do super jump j.K.

>>563282607
Fighting game devs successfully managed to convince fighting game players that arbitrary extra inputs ARE depth. Just take a look at Xrd: instead of run-up throw input being 66HS, it's 66->4+HS+S->6HS. Literally seven buttons presses for something that should take 3 at most.

>>563279267
Holy fuck I hate the dustloop wiki and I hate numpad notation. Just tell me what the fucking combo is with arrows like it does in the game you fucking hipsters

Is matchmaking still fucked?

>>563283176
go back to mortal kombat, jamal

>>563283176
It would be even more unreadable then retard.

>>563283176
>I hate numpad notation
Retarded SF player detected.

>>563283176
You're the hipster for wanting arrow notations unc, numpad is the new norm

When Leffen says Potemkin benefits from the wall positive nerfs what does he mean exactly?

>>563283252
mk is mainly played by whites

>>563283359
i dunno

>>563282686
>>563283054
Go play SF6 then if Anime Fighters are too hard for u.

>>563283490
next youll tell me mexicans are on ethernet

>>563281131
>same distance
Shouldn't happen.

>>563283631
I just play Es :)

>>563283054
this really doesn't look that complicated. it's just aerialslop, then like 4 ground inputs.

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>>563281856
blowback and gravity is soo fucked up and inconsistent in jive that really anything could be the cause (inc. momentum, early cancel)
even in this "2.0" patch, extensions and then consistency have been gutted in an attempt to finally reduce damage after all these years
I mean, you can only begin reading the river once the game starts

>>563283359
I assume he is talking about how someone like Zato will have less meter to work with after a super wall break to rape health bars and thus Pot can use his health like a comeback mechanic. But you shouldn't care about Leffen's opinion because this is miles better than Happy Chaos looping deus ex machina

>>563282097
so, when jumping in with a button, the guy blocks it and me eating a punish it's because i hit the jump too shallow and i'm no longer in the middle of an action, thus i get the extra recovery?
noted

next step i guess is figuring out when to use Vortex, and confirming into revolver midscreen to get better oki

>>563283658
I know, that's why I'm so fucking confused. Like at first I would accidentally cancel the second hit of f.s and that was on me, but now I have no fucking idea.
>>563284037
That would explain things.

Why is it bad when Elphelt and Ram want to fuck big buff men but it's fine when Jack-O does it?

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After i get used to the system mechanics and settled down on -Strive- i m gonna give an honest try for Dizzy.

>>563284270
record a clip

Which 5 or so characters benefit from the system changes the most?

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>>563284270
I forgot that they also stole Late Cancel from old Anji and gave it to everyone in jive
if you think you are cancelling too fast, I implore you to boot up Rev2 and go through Haehyun's missions

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>the bunny is ragna
are we entering the kino or kuso era of guilty gear

>>563285103
The bunny was a four eyes though.

>>563280367
>rushdown girl = cammy
kill yourself, if you played 10 hours of sf you'd realize she isn't cammy

>cammy is rushdown now
what the fuck happened to the fgc

>>563283490
Not really, EU has always been Tekken territory, Mortal Kombat was never that big over here.

>>563285340
Wrong thread nigga

Is Johnny carried?

So Testament needed to be gutted because the pressure was problematic but somehow Jack-o's bullshit was perfectly fine and even got buffed?

>>563285586
orrr maybe the zoner shouldn't have pressure too
did you not realize that the scope of this patch is to make char archetypes focus on only one thing and not be the best at everything?

>>563285425
the opposite of carried

i wish nago didn't combo like 'that'

>>563285713
>focus on only one thing and not be the best at everything?
Sure could have fooled me with those Nago buffs.

>>563286104
he needed them since you can throw command grabs now
this is why devs dont do nerf patches the community is braindead and doesn't understand that a nerf patch means EVERYONE is going to lose cool things

When is it my turn against elphet, and why is she low crushiing everything? Am i mean to to immediately aa if she jumps up to do that special move thing.
Speaking of jump ins why does Jam's hit low from the air.

Johnny should have a command grab

>>563285021
Chipp.

Johnny was always a tierwhore character, no one cares about him if he isn't retarded OP

>>563286256
My point was that Nago has extremely high damage, extremely strong pressure, extremely strong grounded mobility and some of the strongest zoning in the game. He's certainly not a character that focuses only on one thing, and despite that they decided to buff most of the things he already excelled at.
>nerf patch means EVERYONE is going to lose cool things
I fully support this principle, which is why I brought up Nago who only got new cool things without losing a goddamn thing.

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Nagoriyuki isn't Nagoriyuki if he isn't making assorted Low Tier God noises every time he does any action

>>563286104
they nerfed his anti-air fireball thoughever

>>563286256
Command grabs have higher range so this doesnt affect people who properly space them instead of mashing like tards. Nago got exclusively buffed this patch and most retarded thing is how he now can combo blodless from anywhere on screen due to his cs being jump cancellable. They took free mid screen conversion ability from all of cast and gave it to character that before had to use his meter to do so in a patch they wanted to tone this down. Thanks to jump cancellable cs he now has high/low mixup and his buffed 5h can now catch pre jump frames. He also takes less damage and they made his fs as fast at level 2 as it was on lvl 3 due to his new special. Also he can still roman cancel his bloodrage super while no one else can lmao. All that to character that always had third highest damage output in the game and third highest health pool but with actual viable movement option unlike goldlewis or pot.

I swear to god whoever thought to put Jam's 632146H super on H instead of S needs to be fired

/ggg/ more upset about nago's cS jump cancel then millia's literal coast to coast lol

>>563287415
talking about supers i'm surprised soive didnt make it so that they can be performed with 236HS/S+D or something really easy

>>563287560
No one plays Millia.

>>563287560
Millia doesn't kill you in 2 hits.

>>563287885
downplaying millia's damage when she's one of the only 3 touch characters left in the 5 touch patch is wild work

>>563286946
>that always had third highest damage output in the game
He had the highest damage output at one point, being able to ToD low-hp characters like Zato from roundstart. And it wasn't just a meme, but actually practical roundstart option too.

Leo's still top tier, Nago and Chipp are top tier again, it's looking extremely likely HC's still top tier. What did this patch do for the balance again?

>>563283175
no one thinks rc breaking to run up throw is added complexity, it's just something you had to do to actually run up throw because you because throws were way more restrictive in previous games. you are pretending to be mad about something that doesn't exist.

>>563288183
strive patches aren't about balance, and more about accessibility imo. which is why HC and asuka got reworked to be easier to play, and the only "balance changes" are
>hurr durr sol has 1 more frame on his 5k

>>563283176
yeah can you show me you typing out a combo using arrows, no copy pasting allowed please use every single alt key shortcut to achieve this

pump more nerf patches

>>563288183
to maximize fun for jacko players as she is the only character allowed to setplay

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>>563285021
>potemkin
>WA being removed hurts him more than most
>less burst meter from taking damage hurts him more than most
>not being able to use meter to get out of missing his command grab hurts him the most out of anyone in the whole cast
>prc scaling hurts him more than most just look at hammerfall prc potbuster damage
Despite all these nerfs plus personal nerfs it appears Potemkin still is far from dead. Regardless I don't know how people like Leffen can say the system changes helped him more than they hurt him. Does his high guts with everyones damage being lowered negate and surpass all 4 of these system changes that hurt him?

>>563288363
Throws were literally less restrictive though, there were no whiff animations and you could OS it with all face buttons except Dust to get whatever normal you wanted on whiff. Most characters also got meterless combos from them. The only way they were more restrictive than in Strive is the dash exception, you aren't allowed to do a throw while dashing, which is entirely arbitrary and also pointless since you can FD brake which takes 1 frame so run-up throws still exist and are extremely powerful. The restriction has no reason to exist, if you took it away and allowed throwing while dashing literally nothing would change at a high level, the game would just be slightly more accessible to new players as they could use the most basic mix-up in fighting games without breaking their fingers. FD braking for run-up throws is the epitome of arbitrary extra input for no reason, which started this convo.

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>>563288850
>throws in older games aren't more restrictive because everything that made them restrictive was completely arbitrary
i mean when you reduce literally everything yeah you're right i guess. throws having a powerful OS doesn't change the fact that just using them was factually more restrictive than in strive where you can literally just do it.

i hear about the complaints and such but playing faust i feel as free as the wind as though nothing changed since last season

>>563289093
not him but I'm not sure what you mean by restrictive
throw in xrd only comes out when a throw would actually land, so the only extra "freedom" you have in strive is to whiff a throw animation I guess?

>>563289093
Again, not being allowed to throw while dashing is the only way the throws are more restrictive, in all other ways they are less restrictive. Being able to use a normal while also inputting a throw that causes your opponent to get thrown if they burst is less restrictive than in Strive where you have to commit to a throw. I'd say the freedom of being able to use throw whenever you use any normal weights far more than the fact you technically can't use them during a dash which can be circumvented with extra inputs. And you are failing to address the main point: Nothing about the game would change at a high level if you allowed dash throws. It is quite literally execution for the sake of execution.

Holy fucking shit I am playing like dog ass this morning for some reason
What the fuck is wrong with me? I'm literally dashing towards the enemy and panic staggering and just eating combos
I'm not even blocking for shit
I need to play some NMH instead or something to get the edge off this sucks

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I made it to bronze
How consistent are anti-airs in this game? People are starting to just spam jump dashes

>>563289685
very

>>563289307
the fact that you throws are proximity based and you cannot perform them dashing means throws at the very base level are more restrictive, are there ways to get around said restrictions by OS'ing and fd breaking? yes but these were necessary actions to learn because throws were more restrictive to begin with, the original anon was complaining about arbitrary "complex" inputs, but these inputs were developed because of said restrictions, not because someone just arbitrarily decided this should be the input for run up throw.

what is jam's anti air button

>>563289685
6p is literally upper body invulnerable so it's as consistent as it gets but it's an anime game so it's not as simple as clicking an anti air when someone jumps

>>563288601
If you take away jack-os setplay then she needs to be completely remade with new specials. It's not a Ram situation where they could destroy her swordspam and just push her focus to her other moves because Jack-O has no moves except make a minion, kick the minion, and attack with minion.

>>563289685
they kneecapped cS just yesterday so that jump-ins can finally contest

>>563289742
You are not very bright, are you?

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Is it true that they butchered every zoner in the game

>>563289964
the only way you would think fdbreak throw is an arbitrary input is if you think the devs themselves created it instead of something players figure out to get around said throw mechanics. do you know what arbitrary means?

>>563289595
meanwhile I've been playing amazing games and integrated some tech for the first time in live matches
feeling good. thanks for the talent donation

>>563290038
Leffen said that zoners are massively buffed by the system changes so Testament players shouldn't be complaining.

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>FD break wasn't intentional

>>563290103
I dont fucking care about that rapist

>>563290038
No, they just exposed the zoners in this game are biggest bitches in the game

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>>563289727
>>563289816
>>563289934
What about this move? I'm probably slow to react with it right now but I'm expecting more consistency + reward

>>563290189
as someone who's been exploded by this countless times, I can vouch for it having good reward
significant recovery if you whiff but its hitbox is pretty large

Anyone got tips for consistently getting monowire cancels on Lucy? I can't get the proper timing right in combos.
>>563290038
Just play Axl. He's still good, though they really want him to be A zoner.

>>563290038
ADs still have delay, so both zoners and everyone that can spam long pokes are still safe

>>563290189
it's rewarding but you'll eat shit more often than not trying to anti air with it

>>563290050
So your argument boils down to: "Devs didn't want run-up throws to be a thing, players figured out that you could do run-up throws using FD braking, and the devs didn't bother fixing it even though their design intention was to not have run-up throws"? That's not exactly an argument in favor of the game even if it was true, but we also know it's not true because FD braking was a thing in +R so they knew it was possible but didn't change it in Xrd. So FD braking to do run-up throws in Xrd is very much intentional decision by the devs, not something players figured out about the system. Hence, it is arbitrary. It is based on personal whim of the creators rather than any reason as it changes nothing about how the game plays at the intended level, unless you want to argue that they intentionally put it into the game to make the game more difficult for beginners. Although considering how retarded FGC devs can be, that is a real possibility.

>>563290038
WHAT THE F-

Lobby?

>>563290489
i mean you could call them not patching it out arbitrary yes, but the input itself which is what we're talking about is not arbitrary, it was a direct result of the mechanics that were already present in the game. it is not there by without necessity or reason, people figured it out because they wanted to get around not being able to throw while dashing. devs not patching shit out for whatever reason is not something uncommon in video games so i have no idea what kind of response this is suppose to be.

>>563290038
I like ai now...

>>563291065
like rocket jumping in quake was not an intended mechanic and clearly an exploit on the games engine/systems but i don't think anyone in the world would call it arbitrary, the devs also did not patch it out.

>>563290189
>>563290459
Thank you sirs. I'll do it anyway because I want the dp motion muscle memory

>>563290038
The game has been made largely less volatile with the toned down damage and removal of wild assault, so Zoners are likely better across the board
Axel got a lot of buffs
Gobou said Asuka is still good despite every other Asuka player saying he's dead so give it like a month for everyone to copy him again
The only Zoner who might have actually gotten hit is Testament and that might just be people being babies about their character getting touched in anyway rather than Testament being actually worse

>>563291065
You ignored the fact that they intentionally implemented it from +R. It wasn't something that was new to Xrd. Xrd is in a completely different engine. They didn't carry over code, they had to intentionally recode it to mimic the same behaviour as it has in +R.
You seem to be confused here, the input is arbitrary because the reason for it's use is arbitrary. Yes, FD and FD braking already existed as mechanics separate from a throw, but the decision to force you use FD braking to do a run-up throw is an arbitrary one, as there is no reason for it. Instead of forcing FD braking, you could have just allowed throws to come out during dash. The input would be simpler and nothing else about the game would change. Hence, it is arbitrary.
To use Strive to compare and contrast: Johnny was able to jump cancel his dash, and then cancel his jump start-up into special moves. This allowed him do essentially cancel his dash into specials. This wasn't intended (at least I don't think it was), but the devs liked it so decided to keep it in the game and when they did, they decided to remove the requirement for the jump input as it was arbitrary now that they had made the decision that Johnny's dash cancelling into specials was intentional.
Inputs should serve some purpose. For example motions require certain number of frames to input, which among other things means they have additional start-up when done from a neutral state. They will have an effect on the gameplay. If you can remove an input and it will not affect the gameplay in any way other than increasing execution, it is arbitrary.

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The meme free hard knockdown for 50% burst is really gay, just like back when slime- wild assault did it, but I like it.

jam is so braindead

>>563292682
So nothing has changed

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Goldlewis gameplay just looks just so legendarily based. That's all i can say. Punch in to Half-Circle. Big big big big damage.

i hate that sf6 is the only playable fg in my shithole
just q'd for like 6 minutes and couldnt get a single match

How much would I be gimping myself if I only buy the base game?
Can you reasonably learn the match ups by just playing against people or is labbing almost required?

How's Anji now?

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I dont know how to unlearn backdash and grab on reaction now that theyre not strong defensive options

>>563292187
>They didn't carry over code
nta but ackchually there is no way to now this, both mt framework and unreal engine use c++ they very much easily could of

Does tempestede not work or is the game just shit at explaining how to do it? I'm doing the inputs correctly but it does fuck all.

>>563292829
which third world shit hole? i thought strive was popular in Latin-Amerikas

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Let's be serious for a second. Does he really need this?

>>563292905
Labbing won't be required until you get really high in rank. and even then you can just creamapi the dlc characters.

>>563293127
Yeah

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>>563292919
>One thing I can say, Anji can still fight but he's not strong

>>563292936
>mt framework
Dunno where you got that from, Google says that Capcom started developing that in 2004, whereas X2 was released in 2002. It was also developed for an arcade cabinet first with the console ports coming afterwards, though I suppose it is possible that some of the later console ports made use of mt framework and then that code got reused in Xrd. I highly doubt it, but it is possible I guess.

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>>563292826
Goldlewis has only gotten worse over time, but is still pretty cool.

>>563292187
>This wasn't intended (at least I don't think it was
He received dash jumps in the elphelt patch so it was intentional. Kara card is just more niche than kara bite

>>563292905
if you buy it on steam you can unlock the dlc through creamapi fairly easily, but you dont need to do it immediately
see if you like the game first

>>563293006
brazil. I think I'm just being overly optimistic since its like 11am rn and most people q at night

>>563292996
How the fuck do you do tempestede for gio? Im doing the quarter circles but nothing works? This makes no fucking sense

https://youtu.be/rM_NG8qltNc
>Doesn't play the game
>Still predicted game
>Still does craziest shit in it

>>563293415
wtf is tempestede? the in air super?

>>563293336
Dash jumps were intentional yeah, but I dunno if cancelling the jump pre-frames into specials was also intentional. Remember that their patches are incredibly sloppy (Nago can still RC his invincible super for example) so it's possible that they didn't consider it at the time.

>>563293492
It's the second overdrive giovanna can do.

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It's always Millia or Leo, isn't it?

>introduce a mechanic to instantly stop run momentum by canceling into FD
>somehow the fact that people would do it to get a throw out quicker escaped the devs

>>563293487
>any time in shock state you can lighting strike them
i don't know who this guy is, but i like his kuso ideas.

>>563293714
well re read my post

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>>563293857
it is I think?

>>563293579
You seriously think they didn't consider dash jump kara specials when season 2's gimmick was dash kara specials?

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>>563293892

>>563294009
do it in air, it's an air super
236236HS while being in air

Any weeklies or tournament? Our own fucking around is all well and good but I'm curious to see what things are like at top levels

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563293487
does this guy just samefag and advertise himself all fucking day

>>563293828
Clayton always has the best ideas they're cool af.

you're not a real ni/ggg/er if you weren't around for when the game took 20 minutes to boot and you had to mod it to fix it.

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I honestly feel that Nago and Goldlewis could have been in Missing Link.

>>563294074
but i did do it in the air, I said I did it and it didn't do anything.

>>563294209
I still have totsugeki.exe on my desktop

>>563294209
Yeah I fucking was
All it took was necbeard spending 5 minutes in his basement to fix it it all.

>>563294119
Reminder that we wouldn't know half the shit we do in Guilty Gear without him. Know your place tranny.

>>563293302
>>563293923
>>563294064
>>563294297
That's it i'm gonna practice some Goldlewis now!!

>>563294297
And now Goldlewis can dash under Axl's 5P

i love fighting bad/mediocre fausts, easiest MU ever
you run under their j2K bomb gimmick and they're completely lost

>>563293892
imagine drinking baiken's breast milk like it's hot choco
damm i would empty those bags and who ever would pull me up would be crowned King Ky Kiske!!

>>563294209
>strive 2.0 edition costs 90$
strive could've been the fighting game of a generation if they made the base roster free

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>>563294209
My favorite was whenever they resurrected the beta 'can't connect to station'-bug, and it took them forever to fix it every single time. God, I love being trapped for 5+ minutes knowing it'll always end up with a failed to start match.

>>563294335
A pedophile could cure cancer and his throat would still be slit because he fucks children
and guilty gear tips aint medical practice

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Remember hackerman?

>>563294514
I'm sure using Granblue's f2p model for a f2p Strive would do wonders.

>>563294740
Yeah, but he only hurt faggots like Sajam and Hotashi, so I don't care about him.

>>563294826
yeah probably but theyd have to constantly fight people patching the free edition into the full game with all dlc unlocked

>>563294715
wtf does that have to do with Clayton?
https://youtu.be/4cRyBEFgsjQ
Guy is one of the only truly good people we have in the scene.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MONOWIRE CANCEL WITH LUCY WITH THIS FUCKING HORRENDOUS INPUT BUFFER THAT INPUTS YOUR INPUTS BEFORE YOU EVEN INPUT THEM FUCKING INPUTCEPTION I'M GOING INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>563295117
Clayton is the LTG of the wfgc

The irony is that people were trying to fuck Clayton when he was a kid in the scene because he was so pretty lmfao. People really are so desperate to hate on him they can't even keep their stories straight about why he's the boogey man anymore.

Shut up Clayton.

>>563292919
disappointingly about the same
for all the shit they took away, they still haven't given him a 3P, and the consolation prize was jK/jS beating cS because of the system-wide nerf

>>563295293
Go back to fgg faggot

>>563295351
>>563295268
>>563295406
Sounds like Clayton beat you guys pretty bad.

>>563295085
If this game history tell us anything, available even a single character available for free everytime like Sol, it could go a long way, hell, there's a F2P chink player that won some EVO with F2P Gran.

WHAT THE FUCK DID I EVEN EXCEPT FROM THE GAME WHEN I CAN RANDOMLY MASH DIRECTIONS ON MY FUCKING DPAD AND IT WILL SOMEHOW STILL INPUT TK BOMBA BUT WHEN I DO IT PROPERLY IT ALWAYS ENDS UP IN FUCKING 6H
FUCK YOU ARCSYS NIGGERS FUCK YOU

>>563295238
it's easy just rebind your buttons maybe, i have them like this
P K S
HS Dash D on a hitbox

>>563294209
jumping around the setups for 5 minutes trying to get around the errors was funny looking back on it now

>>563295238
While I am not good enough to do them in combos, I'm guessing you essentially plink the H and D buttons.
My D button is right below my H button so I would basically press and drag my finger down to the D button
my bigger problem is mistiming my inputs from a freeze like quickhack and getting my input eaten by the freeze not quite wearing off

>>563295662
Nah I got it but now I can't connect shit after it.

Our favorite washed Johnny is back
https://www.twitch.tv/omitojohnny

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entire character designed around not being able to fucking see what theyre doing because there are too many particles on screen

No seriously how the fuck am I supposed to connect c.S from 2S-S>2H>monowire cancel

>>563296339
you aren't? you can probably get 2K 6HS

>>563296107
https://gamebanana.com/mods/436475
anyone got any idea if this still works?

any zatobros in here?
does eddie feel slower to you? is this a gasleak?

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>charge commands went from 30 frames to 25 frames
How good is this for May?

>>563296420
As it turns out I just had to microdash and it werks. Sometimes.

Been trying to do placements and I haven't won a single match and even learning combos none of it feels useful. This games online is dogshit.

>>563297231
>is shit
>blames game
tale old as time

>>563294030
Yes, I think that is very much a possibility. Remember that the dev team is really incompetent and the patch changes get very little testing. Do I really need to go over every change that had obvious, unintended consequences, or all the various terrible ideas that they reverted in the next patch, or all the bugs and glitches they've introduced? I'm not saying it's what happened, but it is very much possible some intern thought it would help Johnny if he could dash-jump, suggested it, and everyone else agreed without thinking about the consequences.

>>563297231
combos dont matter at that level, just skip around a guide or look at the dustloop page for your character and specifically look for the key moves or what's unsafe. Get familiar with them and play a lot in tower if you get ranked anxiety and dont worry about a lot of the system mechanics yet

>>563297509
The dev team is so good people thought they made IBs easier when they were IBing every single blockstring. Maybe we are the ones too retarded for strive

>>563297231
Practicing combos has to be the biggest pitfall newfags go through.
Learning combos will only make you a worse player as a newfag because you will only play around fishing for combos + online nerves will make you drop most of them anyway

Just play around basic button button specials mini combos until you feel more comfortable.

>>563297567
But everybody is literally doing combos on me even super low guys? How do combos not matter when everybody I see is doing them?

>>563297657
what the other anon said, you aren't able to recognize it yet but they're either a lot more experienced than you because it's a 5 year old game, or they're tunnel visioning in on combos and they cant do anything else. Don't worry about winning the matches if you have to, just think about why youre pressing a button each time you press an attack and if you're doing it with intent or you're just flailing around. Try playing slower and let them press buttons while you block and if they do something big and flashy that misses, then try to attack. That's a victory even if you arent winning matches yet

>>563297981
I got touch of death'd twice by someone so idk what the fuck to do man. This game makes no sense in how it feels like I get people talking out of two sides of their mouths man none of this shit makes sense.

is Elphelt good? having a lot of fun playing her

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the extra shit on top is apparently what they meant in the notes
because they refuse to remove AD delay and reintroduce the immediate threat of crosses and jump-ins, we SF now
thanks dash macro

>>563298137
Because there's a lot of returning oldfags so MMR is jumbled up. there's also going to be a lot of old players that didn't play since ranked was added so they'll be at shitter mmr aswell.

That's just the consequences of a big patch.

>>563298137
if you're able to record a match or you have a question about a character someone can try to offer more specific help

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Anyone would be interested in a EU lobby?
all level welcome, but fair ewarning, I don't know how long I can keep it open, might be very short.
Just kind of want to play with you guys.

>>563298301
I don't know who to play at all and I only have the base version of strive because fuck paying 80 bucks. Every one of the simple characters I've tried don't feel simple at all and I feel like I get punished for even trying to press any button from them.

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>>563296107
Just wait till you see this guy!

>>563298812
new to fighting games? they're hard

>>563298812
use the DLC unlocker https://github.com/FroggMaster/CreamInstaller

>>563298812
May and Ky were the easiest for me getting started as my first real attempt at learning a fighting game, who were you trying and what felt overwhelming or complicated? There is learning involved and you can't treat a loss as a loss, it's like learning anything new, of course you're going to mess up you've never done it before

>>563298649
yeah i was about to host one in a bit myself so go for it.

>>563299106
At first I played sol but I felt like I couldn't do anything but get combo'd to death, then I moved to may and the same thing except I couldn't do anything damage wise, then I went to gio and the same thing as well. I still haven't won a single round in any of my placement matches

>>563298942
I've played sf6 and a lot of soul calibur 2 and soul calibur 2 feels way more fun than this man. I just feel like there if im having problems I can actually look at a combo and then be able to actually execute it without dealing with something I can't understand

>>563298892
I don't get it

>>563299380
you probably played sc2 against the cpu but your nostalgia warped it as it being more fun because you were winning even when being bad. everyone starts bad, so dont worry. but if you're not willing to each shit for a while until you grasp the game then you should just stop playing it rn and go do something else with your time

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Luce feels so much more fun now that your opponent doesn't derstroy you after one interaction.

I don't understand how people get filtered this hard by fighting games. Just open a gameplay video on youtube and copy what you see even if you don't fully understand the decision making.

>>563299874
feels weird getting 3 touched as millia. I'm used to dying after one combo

>>563299280
Try everyone that looks appealing just go into training with them and press buttons and just see who feels good that you think you might like to learn then stick with them, you're making it harder if you swap around, you want to be able to press the buttons without having to think about it. Who do you like in sf6 or what level did you get to there?

>>563299874
Share your secrets with me o-'wise one.

I hope we never see a HC cocksucker in a top 8 of any tournament ever again.

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>>563300342
it's bound to happen

>>563299874
how would you recommend neutral be played
Also, can I conceptually chunk
c.S 6H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff
and
2SS 2H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff
in the same 'this is a metered combo extender' block in my head? Where would I want to use one over the other?
Because the second is way easier to autopilot.

>>563300342
Fingers crossed/Monkey paw curled at EVO Japan boi.

>>563300342
It's funny watching people on twitter slowly realize he is still fucked up

>>563300054
>ou like in sf6 or what level did you get to there?
I liked ken and I think I was bronze in ranked but I never played ranked because ranked sucks. I'm only playing ranked here because people always tell me it's the only way to play it I guess.

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>Broke my PS4 controller on Tekken 7 when i was doing EWGF grind on Heihachi (The literal DF portion of d-pad became hollow through so much stress, pressure and usage)
>My HitBox is okay but the cable breaks as usual
>Now my spare fighting pad Hori Commander Octa breaks down kinda, with no idea what went wrong but it has tremendous amount of ghost movement
Why the fuck are FIGHTING GAME controllers so FUCKING ASS??!! Like bro i could pay $300 just for a fucking pad that lasts the test of time not some cheap temu plastic shit. Like this just pisses me off so much.
FUCK I HATE FIGHTING GAME CONTROLLERS!!!

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>>563300342
HC is allowed to be fucked up after the nerfs because it only really matters for top players in tournaments now
everyone else is chilling

>>563300421
>>563300478
>>563300497
I remember when they first '''''nerfed''''' him and gave him complementary buffs he ended up just being giga buffed and turned from a nigger zoner to a nigger zoner with insane mix instead.

I swear if this shit happens again these jap niggers deserve to have the game die and going bankrupt.

>>563300650
try ky, no character is going to be exact but most of his moves are straightforward. There was a big influx of players with the new update so you can play in the tower if you're able to find matches in your region, just go to the lowest floor youre able to with some amount of players after you get mostly familiar with his moves

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How many of you actually fought a good Happy Chaos, like a *good* one? The hate seems really unfounded for the average player, 99% of HC players do not know how to properly use the character, you really shouldnt be talking like a trauma victim over him

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>>563299107
Sorry for the late reply bro I was performing my Kizzic duties.
I'll get to making the lobbies right now.

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Did Chipp and Nago get the best new special moves out of any character?

>>563301056
yes

>>563300663
I genuinely gave up on controllers and just bit the bullet and learned to play on keyboard instead, having to buy new controllers so frequently is just annoying as fuck. you should do the same or get a hitbox.

>>563300928
Man im iron 1 and my final match was against that new character and I couldn't even do a counter against her or that thing where you do some move to push the enemy away.

>>563300959
Most people who spend any amount of time actually playing in celestial run into good HCs.

Potemkin is a solid mid tier now?

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>>563300434
The neutral is were I'm really bad at, I always get obliterated in mirror matches to an embarassing level.
>c.S 6H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff
>2SS 2H 214{H} QH 214K into stuff
You can use microdash K pickup from 6H for more corner carry.

>>563301373
lol no, went from top 3 to top 5 MAYBE

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>>563298649
>>563299107
>>563300979
>Skill levels: all welcome
>Room made in EU: All regions welcome, but if you feel it's too much for you to handle, just says so to your opponent, don't just leave them out to dry

Code-room : 087158

when i queue ranked i know it takes a while because everyone SENSES me and they SCURRY

>>563301316
why the fuck are you on celestial

>>563300663
Just buy new cable for hitbox??
I have custom made hitbox for more than a decade now and I only changed the cable once.

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>>563301659
And here are the room rules.
Gonna get a glass of some beverage before coming back, you guys have fun
please be nice to each others

Who are the 5 hardest characters to play in Strive?

>>563302147
Leo, Sol, Ram, Baiken, Nago.

>>563302147
venom, zato, asuka, jaggo, happy chaos

>>563302147
my main

https://x.com/i/status/2042724097486921846
Sooo
Slayer lost all his damage and combo routes huh

>>563301226
idk what to do man

>>563302341
damnit, anon
now they're gonna delete him tomorrow

>>563302546
Didn't this guy bully a mentally ill man into suicide by pretending to be his friend

>>563302665
why the random mcdonalds line

>>563301373
He doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses like he did in S2. I mean even abare has been standardized.

>>563302791
have you never seen the meme where the character is working on mcdonalds after they get nerfed

>>563302095
infinite rematches should be changed

>>563302791
Twitter/Twitch meme. "Put the fries in the bag" and so on.

>>563302696
he acted like the mentally ill guy was a threat to his safety even after he apologized repeatedly

No amount of "his new staffs have so much POTENTIAL" will convince me Asuka isn't abject dogshit now.

>>563302976
No, fuck you, infinite rematches are the reason you play in a room. If you want to have loading screens every time a match ends, go to ranked or tower.

>>563303169
it's to have people take turns lil nigga

>>563302341
>PBloops are now more delay dependent
what's the point when every champ has 200+ damage slop combos

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>>563302935
>He doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses
>slowest character in the game
>biggest model
>no air dash
Potemkin is still plenty good but its silly to claim he has no glaring weaknesses

>>563303169
Excuse me, nigger? I'm only sharing the same breath with you because I'm actually merciful with the dogs in this thread. Refute your little pathetic comment right now or i WILL rape you with my mini-fausts.

>>563303321
>wow I can't wait to use my unmatched mobility to run circles around Pot!
>what do you mean buster still has a 50/50 chance to catch me?

how do I

>>563303218
Yes, I know, that's why it's dogshit. I don't want my play interrupted by some fag wanting """his turn""". He can wait for someone else to show up for all I care. Infinite rematches means I either play the game, or wait for someone to show up while comfortably alt-tabbing. Instead of being forced to constantly switch back and forth as some little bitch-ass nigga wants to take turns instead of waiting like a man.

>>563303418
Nothing you just said retorts the idea that he has no glaring weaknesses. Being huge and slow is not ideal. Think of it this way, imagine if he was really fast and small?

>>563303472
>bitch ass nigga waiting because he loses all the time
i can tell this is why you're against it

what the fuck is Jam's damage LMAO

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the lack of winstreak bonuses makes the diamond grind a fucking slog

>>563303618
Grappler Chipp? What is this, Blazblue?

would Jack o be bad to learn as my first main

>>563303765
Just play who you like.

>>563303934
Terrible advice.
>>563303765
Yes.

>>563304137
No one sticks to a fighting game being forced to play the designated beginner friendly characters if they don't like them.
>Play X first to learn fundamentals
You're making it seem like homework

>>563303765
I would try to be familiar with the system mechanics first

>>563303765
play whoever you want, people try way too fucking hard to overoptimize a new players experience.
She looks cool to you, so try her

>>563304524
>>563304307
>>563303934
I would agree in case of any other character. Jack-O is unironically just too complex for a new player.

>>563304712
dude you just 2k 2d put a minion and kick it, i'd agree if it was hc or asuka

>>563304761
what's a 2k 2d

>>563304712
I beg to differ
Jack-O lets you learn something that you can't really learn with any other character, which is spontaneity and taking advantage of extreme scramble.
At her core, she's really simple, but the complexity comes from how all of her pieces interact with each other.
t. kind of made her work from her release until Testament's release until I dropped the game after season 1

The /ggg/ standard is FT3, not infinite rematches
Arguing anything else is screaming to the world you're a newfag and didn't play in the god lobbies

>>563304912
low kick then bigger low kick

>>563304980
Delay Xrd didn't allow you to set FT3 though, the only options were no rematches or infinite rematches. So it turns out you are the candy-ass.

>>563303765
just bomb loop lol

okay thx guys jack o just seemed fitting since i used to main olimar in smash
slayer seemed cool gonna try him first

>>563305109
The /ggg/ Strive regulars were way better than any of the Xrdfags

Neco-Arc of Strive?
No, Faust doesn't count.

>>563305492
But I'm both...

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>>563305552
Poster character that a disproportionate number of freaks latch on to and idolize, while actual fans roll their eyes and heave a mighty sigh?
Bridget, it couldn't be anyone else.

can only normals cancel into overdrives?

>>563306179
yeah