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hi everyone
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do you
>A. fight with 500 other retards for 6 bird spawns
>B. click a bush approximately 300-480 times to get 15 hunter
>C. do puro puro and mcfucking kill myself
>D. get 40 mining for the karamja easy diary and burn the lamp on 25 hunter to camp butterfly spawns
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flutten?? AWOOOOOOOGAAAAA
hubba hubba
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>>563377548
>thorns
chill and versatile, may or may not be that crazy though
>"light weapon" (<1kg) spec build
will be good in the very early game, mediocre in the midgame, and possibly good again depending on whether the last t8 relic has any effect on specs. limited weapon selection and you probably need to pick one of either Asgarnia or Zeah for dog dagger / dclaws
>blindbag
regret
>2h / halberd
dunno, might be good but i feel like you need a way to consistently freeze / bind stuff and it doesn't work in a lot of situations. will be pretty chill against anything that switches to range / mage at a distance i guess.
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i doubt it
is it actually, though? or are DPS calculators just bugged? i clocked that air was broken day 0 purely because % modifiers are always, always broken on principle and they're mostly absent from every other pact tree.
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Husky said DPS calculators are off on some stuff, but no balance changes are planned.
I don't know if that refers to air magic or thorns or what, but I'm going air because I find the idea of having a bunch of shit tier prayers active all the time funny. Also I really, really like Dagon'hai.
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i wonder if she's still alive
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um you dont have to go kandarin
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how reddit are your region picks?
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>>563384868
I was planning on ATM, so not very reddit apparently.
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jealous samefag
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>>563387943
You may want to REALLY read and think about the keystones for the magic spells before you do something about this.
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whisperer is 70m/h
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Chat can you recommend me some good anime or anything to watch. I have about 8 hours of agility to get through.
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1775994814039857.mp4" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1775994814039857.mp4
I miss our audio
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what show
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I wont be around for leagues 6 release or midweek grinds omg releasing it in the middle of the week is crazy
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seihantai na kimi to boku
idk why 643 decided to go full chud tlaking points
never seen the anime though
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>>563396032
I take Wildy every single league, I'm planning on doing some air mage shenanigans and the crossbow isn't even relevant to my plans
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The Varrock Herald has lost total credibility, not that they had any to begin with. They love saying the Strait of Musa is "closed." WRONG. We are winning, and winning BIG. The Pirates are gone, the Jogres are gone, the Jungle Spiders have been largely obliterated, and most importantly, their longtime Leaders are no longer with us, praise be to Saradomin! The only thing they have going is their Kraken, which, by the way, is tiny and weak and pathetic compared to OUR Kraken, which is bigger, stronger, and more beautiful than any Kraken anywhere in the World, possibly ever. We are now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Musa as a favor to players all over the World. Incredibly, they don't have the Courage or Will to do this work themselves. Tuesday will be Rum Day, and Lobster Spot Day, all wrapped up in one, in Karamja. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin' Passage, you crazy Monks, or you'll be waking up in Lumbridge — JUST WATCH! Praise be to Guthix.
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the echo item is kinda meh, imbued slayer helm with effectively torva/masori/ancestral helms blended together is strong but it's not changing how you do anything while also not being super op like last leagues ring+amulet were. Then you add in a lot of people are looking to take culling spree as their 6th relic and the imbued helm part is no longer useful useful to them
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Loot doko?
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many people like the echo items since they're unique to the league. the rest of frems upgrades are fairly small since you don't need dk rings for the vestiges and most mages are looking at elemental spells which don't get as much out of saturated hearts extra level boost.
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One post is shitting on Jagex the other post is glaxing jagex for the exact same thing?
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I like how they pushed that whole thing about
>tickets will be exclusively available to active players the first 24 hours
but then are not even close to being sold out
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>>563406893
ok nice bait I will fukken spank you
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the worst t8 is here
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crazy they kept the ranged dmg part instead of making it typeless or something so you can execute more bosses. i took it in reloaded and it was pretty lame overall, only really stood out on wardens enrage
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>>563408653
Flowstate is for sweaty tryhards who want to speedrun skilling tasks. You need constant focus to make it worth it.
Alternatively, it can be a dadgamer relic as it lets you process piles of supplies faster with limited playtime. Good if you have demon butler resources stacked up.
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>>563408653
if flow state works on zeah rc (mod husky is confirming this on monday) then I can see it as a genuine pick over reload > SH
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>>563409161
just wait until t6 with your second region unlocked before you commit to slayer, you probably don't do kandarin first anyway
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lol
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>>563409347
what are your regions? I feel like besides the early shitty quests, kandarin kinda requires you to already have 50s in stats
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>>563409161
That's why I'm picking Wildy and Zeah first to get muh keys during the grind
>>563409289
need to get 48 Slayer to unlock Varlamore echo boss but otherwise yeah you can save the real grind for later
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https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Areas/Kandarin #Quests
Wiki says a ton of good quests get auto-completed
>Holy Grail, King's Ransom
>Tree Gnome Village, The Grand Tree, Monkey Madness 1 & 2
>Watchtower, Eyes of Glouphrie
>Waterfall Quest, Legends Quest
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I'm at an impasse
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>>563411892
I'm in the same boat and picked wildy because I think it's just a very easy region with no minigames/quests, you just kill shit
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>easy rc
Air runes turn into NOTED pure essence. It's not Banker's Note, you can't use it to stand an altar forever. It only solves getting pure ess in bulk, you still need to do normal Runecrafting
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>mage xp is already fast and easy
Transmute is zero cost passive base 120k xp/hr
That's 1.4m/hr when you unlock it, scaling up to 2.8m/hr at T7
It's 50% better passive Magic XP than Golden God. You can get 99 Magic in a day and free 200m XP in less than 70 hours. There are tasks for getting 100m and 200m in a combat skill this League.
Transmute massively accelerates any Magic build with not just the free 99 but also access to Wrath runes many hours earlier than anyone who doesn't take it. 95 Runecraft is going to take a long time even with Soul Harvest.
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>no gotr
>no bankers note
that is ok I will just recall orb to and from a rune altar
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I'm going Wildy/Zeah/Kandarin
Wildy is fast and easy, it's a lot of bossing like Asgarnia but all the bosses are really easy and shit out tons of money and resources. You need to do a lot of Slayer for Kandarin and doing any Slayer task in the Wildy will give you Larran's keys which is even more free resources.
The only "hard" boss is Corp but the KBD crossbow works against it and any strong build will probably be able to brute force it anyway.
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>>563414864
oh right i just checked and got epicly trolled
anon is a fag, stick to making cringe posts about attention whores
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>why is evil eye in C tier lmfao
Because bank heist is better, all bosses are already close to a bank or deposit box and it has more locations.
Why do you need a tele to a boss when a lot of bosses already drop teles to them as well as you can just camp them indefinitely.
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stop making me tap the sign
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>>563416556
it doesnt solve anything
you get more than enough farming xp from pvm drops and zeah has tithe and contracts
prayer and rc are solved by sh
crafting and smithing are solved by larc + t
it just doesnt do anything for these regions
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so unless you take desert for rc minigame don't you pretty much have to take soul harvest to avoid rc aids?
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finished eva it was weird I dont think I get it bed now leagues soon in a few days need energy
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This isn't full retard like the other one but I still don't get some of it
BG > EH doesn't make sense to me, I've seen the math, BG is only that strong when you reload into both of them. BG is way more intensive with Mining in particular, you still have to compete for resources/wait for respawns and bank.
Evil Eye being clearly and significantly better than the other teleport relics also doesn't make sense to me, it's completely dependent on your regions and needs (and you're gonna put a teleport relic on the same level as relics that actually solve skills?)
Executioner is straight up not a good pick unless you have a shtity tank build that does no damage and you're still planning to fight Nex and do Raids for some reason (and it's still devalued in Raids because only one person in your group needs it). There's multiple good builds this year that can guarantee max hits and other damage nukes like the fucking Flask, I don't understand valuing specific target burst damage that much.
Friendly Forager (solves one (1) skill) on par with Hotfoot (soft solves three skills) and Butler (solves at least three skills) and both of these being on the same level as fucking Bank Heist and "free food :)" is fucking cap
>Nature's Accord (solves Farming + Herblore and comes with a free teleport relic better than any of the actual teleport relics)
>Grimoire (enormous utility that can save you from picking a whole other region)
>Minion (over 6 DPS in any style and AoE, helps you literally everywhere with everything, AND automatically notes and loots your drops)
>all D tier on par with a teleport relic
The goyim have gone insane
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>>563418257
have fun fucking up tiles on sol with your 20 tile bronze spear lmao
and by the time i get to sol (which i intend on avoiding as long as possible because fuck nuscape rs4 content) i will be melee anyway
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>>563418598
>Evil Eye being clearly and significantly better than the other teleport relics
except it's not. Teleport relics are to get around the map and evil eye offers the least
>But you have to run to bosses
No bosses are far, they drop teleports and have agility shortcuts.
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>>563418672
well rc wont be a problem at all then wtf
it was so free in gotr last year
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ohh yeah bro let me pick bank heist so i can go to a bank that evil eye also offers with huey and let me teleport to random fucking locations in the game with nothing in them when the point is to pvm for points
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>>563419285
>Ignores what I said
Bank heist is not to access a bank retard.
>Random locations.
There are more things I league than bosses which you camp anyway. That 1 min save and you can't even access every bit of the map.
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>>563416005
Speccing into melee is a noob trap, these are easy bosses and you don't need pacts to kill them with normal melee gear
Rushing Kandarin first doesn't make a lot of sense, you're not getting what you need for your build from there until you're 90+ Slayer
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wake me up if leagues comes out
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(I thought the doorknob image would be timely and funny)
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wait I get it he is trying to open and close the door so many times that it gets stuck open omg genious
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No. With full Blue Moon casting Fire Surge at level 85 Magic you're still doing less DPS than a guy with base 70 melees hitting her with the Glacial Temotli and nothing else. The same build casting Water surge on Jad kills him significantly faster than you would kill her.
Moons are completely out of the question, they have gigantic Magic and Ranged defense that you won't be able to overcome. You won't be able to kill these bosses that aren't supposed to normally be maged until you can stack the +accuracy boosting pacts and get better equipment. The Echo Thermie items will really bring your build online but that's not until way later.
Building mage early is still good for killing normal enemies and other bosses that don't have huge Magic defense, Varlamore is just full of melee-focused bosses. You're still going to need to get 48 Slayer before you can even kill Amoxliatl and magic is totally fine for killing the Frost Naguas that drop the Glacial Temotli for example.
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When are the community chambers masses?
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I think I've been thoroughly buck broken. I'm starting to find agility super relaxing and dare I say fun. I kind of look forward to it
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>>563429026
just mage, my mage dps is just barely worse than my melee unless a dwar spec hits then its like 20% worse
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psyopped myself into flipping on half my relics
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>>563431873
>reloading into clues
I get the logic of wanting to wait until later to do clues but it also increases the clue drop rate from skilling and pvm, you'd have more clues stacked up if you picked it first. Doing clues earlier also means getting points from clues earlier which gets you to later tiers faster.
Reloading into Transmute might make more sense, if you're not rushing the elemental mage build you don't need to juice your Magic XP and get Wrath runes that early, and you probably don't want to be doing most of your skilling with the resources from Transmute until T7 for the 16x XP rate.
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Depends on your regions but probably not
It's a QoL/easy mode thing, prayer pen just means you don't have to worry about mechanics so you can have a chill time doing Demonic Gorillas or brute force Echo Hunllef with a 1tick staff
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>>563432801
well here is my stupid ffxiv black mage pact setup as well
im fairly new to runey so i cant speak to its goodness but it looked fun
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>>563433031
I've also seen people talking about Transmute as a money maker but that doesn't really justify it to me either (with the exception of selling runite ore for Tokkul to get onyxes)
Everyone has access to stuff like flipping rubies at the Aldarin gem shop for 600% profit, money shouldn't be a major issue early game
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>>563432969
LMFAOOOO
IS THIS REAL?
you just know this is the work of that cuck jmod who plays PoE, the one who wanted to implement some "low-life" shit into osrs
failure of a developer cant come up with anything original, not even the bull super strength potion was a novel idea
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>>563433334
i was thinking hotfoot would help with early money but i dont get access to an agility course until i unlock zeah for shayzien
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mages
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why do i always do this
i cant multitask for shit
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>powered staves outperform air magic until i get 95 RC for wrath runes, even a trident
>incentivized to spec into powered staves for CG anyway
>can't afford to take either soul harvest or transmutation
it's over... i hate powered staves...
oh well maybe this will make me like them
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mining amethyst and you?
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>he pulls up to your player owned house in this
wyd
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>>563433868
>i was thinking hotfoot would help with early money but i dont get access to an agility course until i unlock zeah
You also get 10k from collecting termites on the Varlamore course, which only needs 50 Agility to start and is very chill
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You should get a decent level pretty quick with Hotfoot and you can do Brimhaven Agility Arena once you unlock Karamja if you need to train a little more
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I am going to be so stunlocked once I put my first 8 points in mage and can't do mox/moons/sol/huey
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>>563438458
Nina is a 17 year old highschool drop out
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>>563441127
it's what i'm gonna do, probably zeah and then kandarin after
zeah to line up with my t5 farm relic to get all the farming points, tithe farm, farming guild, hopefully rush t6 so I can start slaying in wildy and maybe catacombs
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>teleports behind you
>"I've got a fresh "baguette" for you, anon! Open up!"
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>>563442317
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>>563442881
your opinion is wrong
FACE
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>>563441127
Zeah has a lot of low-mid level skilling stuff but its task list gets very rough
Wildy is very PvM focused but it's all very easy content that rewards you with a ton of resources. Any Slayer task you do in the Wildy will drop keys.
I think Wildy is definitely better for progress if you want to start PvMing and get your build going
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>>563443173
if you could read or use critical thinking youd realize the zamorak full helm is and i quote
>This item is considerably more expensive than any other piece of god-affiliated rune equipment due to its use as part of a Master tier emote clue step.
but instead you have to whinge in this thread
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im the one posting anime while i hunt red chinchompas
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>>563443352
i dont care about any of this fag ass manufactured drama
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people picking larcenist but not the clue relic are applying the same faulty logic as people picking transmute but not soul harvest
>bro RC is solved, i'll have infinite pure essence
but you still have to walk your ass to the altar because there's no banker's note. and if you don't have map of alacrity for either blood altar, it's even worse.
after looking through the list of clue steps, there are a lot of annoying hard and elite steps with common region combinations. fremennik arguably gets the worst of it, but no one is picking fremennik. the runners up are asgarnia, kandarin, morytania, and zeah, in that order. Kandarin has some really bad emote clues requiring dragon spear (legends' quest is auto-completed). all of this is made worse by the fact that
>evil eye is the most common t2 relic
>nature's accord is the least common t5 relic (lots and lots of good clue step teleports)
>very few people are probably picking both larcenist and nature's accord
tl;dr clues are not going to be fun and anyone without the clue relic and with larcenist better hope that jagex didn't lie about reducing clue tasks for the xth time in a row
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you could try playing the game and posting about the game
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>>563443775
im only doing easy and meds for pray gear for air build then never doing clues again
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>>563431873
>transmutation
ya that makes sense
>>563433334
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>>563442580
>picked the region and pact combination that i thought was a fun meme
>it's actually the optimal giga turbo-sweat dragon cup speedrunner build and i'm going to have to deal with them running around
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>>563442580
>handsome pointsmaxxing streamer validates all of my planning decisions
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i really wish reloaded came before tier 7 because flow state sounds so nice, i would have really liked to try it
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75% solved my plan is goated
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whatlook at the clan chat lmfao
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70 might take a day or two since im lazy
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>>563453986
this is the runescape thread but i need to talk about sex and having sex and being horny and gooning and how i need sex because my brain is completely normal its normal to be like this
>>563454438
its not, he said most of the damage comes from just having this path alone. anything else just makes it feel better to use
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the smartest one yet but it makes no sense to put reloaded in s tier when the best thing it can take is a tier that makes it an a tier relic so for that reason i will put this tierlist at a b on the tierlist tierlist
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i feel pretty comfortable with my picks after watching mazhar's breakdown, he pretty much validated every single one of my picks except the clue thing but i wasnt considering just dropping shit clue steps because i didnt realize larcenist was going to give me like thousands of clue scrolls. if i dont reload for clues, the only other thing i could maybe want to take would be like woodsman FF or NA
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i am also a fotm league player who has only ever done jad once that looks for validation in my picks from content creators that can do inferno with a rune crossbow and nothing in their inventory blindfolded because we will have the exact same experience
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Can someone explain how you are meant to use the 1kg or below weapon tree? I most good weapons are above 1kg
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>>563456784
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Fang_of_the_hound
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Abyssal_whip
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_dagger
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Golden_tench
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The crossbow always shoots 2 bolts at once dealing damage in two hitsplats, with both hitsplats having their max hit halved. The first bolt counts as a crossbow attack, while the other counts as an ice attack which will always freeze the current target in place for 24 ticks (14.4 seconds). The freeze effect can be toggled on and off with the weapon. The ice attack does not regenerate runes.
this is just ass. there is literally no reason you would use this EXCEPT pking aka greifing in leagues
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>>563457483
>~140/2 max hit with runite bolts and your only ranged strength coming from anguish and treads, ~124/2 with green d'hide and snakeskin
>95% - 97% accuracy pretty easily
>always max hits if it hits
>if you have the water and ice pacts, it (over)heals you for ~40
>having a freeze without needing ancients is nice
>easy to get off the ground since all you need to do is beat echo KBD and get a few runite bolts from lava dragons
it's pretty good. With 11 pact points and eagle eye you're two-shotting lava dragons for even more prayer XP and runite bolts to sustain you. And it's not locked behind a high slayer requirement or AIDS like some other stuff.
That said, I think people are miscalculating its max hit because of the way that the wiki's DPS calculator treats ranged echoes. It's a weapon that's designed to freeze, one-shot, and/or execute stuff. It's not a coincidence that the pact bridging the ranged and magic trees is about switching combat styles.
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im doing wildy asgarnia and afking all the bosses
deal with it
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>>563459562
yeah i'm going into powered staff after my initial pacts because it's basically the only way to avoid respeccing just for CG. it doesn't hurt that kandarin and tirannwn also has warped sceptre, as shit as it is, for content where i'm forced to go mage until toxic trident or something better.
i just really hate the idea of wasting respecs on progression. i'd rather have wiggle room to fuck around at the end of the league with fun builds.
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>>563443775
Larcenist gives you unlimited Easy and Medium clues, which are the most important for Vestment robes for the Prayer build. Hards are also realistic from Paladins (1/500 rate at 3000 attempts per hour = ~60 clues/hr expected), Elites from Heroes not so much but Culling Spree will provide plenty from Superiors. Echo Bosses also all now drop Elites at a 1/12 rate.
There are alternative sources for every clue tier, you can do Eclectics with Huntsman for 2x Mediums, Wilderness slayer gets double clue drop rates with a Ring of wealth (i) (1/64 for many monsters, 1/32 Hards from Hellhounds). I'm not worried about getting clues.
Everyone gets "clue steps are saved between clues" as a passive without picking the clue relic. If you can get enough clues you can brute force your way through any bad steps. The clue relic definitely speeds up the process but it's not necessary.
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>>563460248
it's good, it's just that a lot of people are evaluating it based on the max hit because they see
>crossbows always max hit
>you can heal for 60% of half your max hit with the KBDCB
>max hit: 400
and their eyes pop out of their heads. that max hit isn't the crossbow's, it's the ranged echoes'. disable the ranged echoes can trigger other ranged echoes pact and you'll see that the crossbow's max hit goes from like 400 to 130-150 without a substantial effect on its DPS.
it's not a weapon you just camp because the way it and crossbow pacts work both lead to inefficient kills in a lot of circumstances. think about it this way: how good is a 7t weapon that always hit for 140 on an enemy with 141 HP? when its execute potential does line up with what you're kill, it's very nice.
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>>563460547
i see your point, but i personally just dislike doing clues during leagues normally. when i say normally, i mean without clue relics. it's a very frustrating process because it's
>active
>mind-numbing
>time-consuming
>luck-based
the four horsemen of annoying bullshit. i love clues in the main game because they're like a mystery box you get to open once every few hours, depending on what you're doing. they're very annoying when you're doing them back-to-back-to-back, even if you're skipping annoying steps. this is exacerbated by the fact that the average player is probably going to be lacking teleports this time, since evil eye and larcenist are so popular. a lot of steps are instantly going to go from good to bad due to this, and it adds up.
>1/32 from hellhounds
i tried this for the novelty last league and it wasn't worth the time investment. it's a realistic "alternative source" if you're desperate, and specifically desperate for hard clues if paladins aren't cutting it.
again, i don't think it's impossible to do clues or anything, it's just that they're an annoying mechanic in leagues and there's really no comparable way to mitigate what's most annoying about them without the relic.
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>>563456784
You spec into it when you get a whip or the dog dagger
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>Whats the early game blind bag alternative?
Thorns build with something like Dscim + obby shield? Pre-pacts the base dps is pretty close to the Moxi weapon on Blood Moon.
Wiki damage calc doesn't work with thorns but it seems like it should be pretty good at Moons specifically, they attack you frequently and consistently.
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>>563459538
>~140/2 max hit with runite bolts
If you make them into Onyx bolts (e) you get ranged strength on par with Dragon bolts, a chance to do +20% damage and +25% extra lifesteal, and you regenerate bolts that alch for 9k each every time you shoot
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>>563462024
its 3tick and is the only 3tick melee under 1kg
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>>563461873
pros:
>10m semi-AFK Strength and Agility XP from 50m Fishing and Woodcutting (no one sane is doing 50m Mining)
>very good XP/h if you have Zeah or Asgarnia
>don't have to transmute shit tier resources
>perfect for people with extreme OCD who will kill themselves if their tools don't match
cons:
>worse XP/h if you don't have Zeah or Asgarnia
>you have to bank*
>devalued by transmutation
* - you don't have to bank if you either A.) choose to destroy the resources you're gathering with the knapsack or B.) are automatically burning logs with Woodsman
I think it's inferior in EH + Transmutation, but if you're not picking Transmutation for whatever reason it's still good
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>>563463904
probably the same as you except you'll be maybe 10-20 levels higher from running around the whole league lol
also i have good regions for agility courses so it doesnt matter that much. sometimes you're better off not trying to "solve" every skill like you're faux and know when to take a sacrifice for the better plan
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>>563463904
>how do you plan on 50m agility
I don't
>>563463943
You only needed 500 last League. I'm not doing 20 hours of monkey business but I can do 5.
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I'm going KAT so maybe endless harvest+hotfoot isn't worth it. Since I'm already going to have good agility training methods and need to do hundreds of runs for tasks anyways. I'll have the myths guild for a cooking spot, if I go barbarian i'll have amethyst to punch, and smithing is solved by thieving elves.
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i think the relics are all really balanced except for
>friendly forager
only good if you're actually 99% fucked for herb patches and aren't taking butler's bell
>grimoire
bad because it's in the same tier as culling spree
>eternal sustenance
bad because of pacts
>executioner
too specialized
all in all this was a better outcome than 99% of people picking clue compass and banker's note. but it's makes the, "he's an X picker, OH NO NO NO," bants much more retarded.
>>563465139
i feel like 90% of league players are suffering from a mass hallucination where they forgot that this eixsts. you only need a WHOPPING 103gp to start playing gemscape.
>100gp for 20 buckets of sand
>3gp for a glassblowing pipe, 1gp for a chisel
>pick up seaweed on the beach south of the coliseum (or just soda ash for 100gp more)
congratulations, you now have infinite gold and crafting XP.
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stop asking me if im going to dmm
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>>563467360
first of all you are dumb for two reasons
the first and this might be really complicated for someone of your intellect you but ABUNDANCE is a TIER 1 relic and hotfoot is a TIER 2 relics. they are not in the same TIER they aren't comparable sweatie
ok how else can i put this
one of them is a type of apple and the other is a type of citrus fruit
one of them is a color and the other is a car type
does this help do i have to dumb it down further for a woodsman taker
and the second i will not be expounding on
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>>563467697
its ok little endless hotfooter, youll understand when its day 5 and youre still afking karams with your little agi slippers on that havent got you 90 agi yet and then you realize you need 93 slayer to do anything while us non mentally deficient players already have their entire mage build done
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>most people are abundance -> woodsman
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i just ignore leagues posts since i dont give a crap
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im thinking
>barb gathering
>forager
>evil eye
>butler
>soul harvest
>culling spree
>reload woodsman
>minion
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>>563468153
holy smokes i cant wait for your realization
until then el no sabe (that means he doesnt know for you monolingual dumbass american woodsman takers)
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>>563468374
>endless harvest + forager + reload into abundance
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turd world frog poster L
>>563468570
there are a lot of clogs for clues
just take larcenist and stack them
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would anyone like to chill and enjoy some doom of mokhiaotlhttps://www.twitch.tv/nanto_osrs
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mazhar
>im going to 2t teaks for 18 hours a day 3t gems to level mining and 3t barb fish and for that these relics are really good for me
1500 lil timmy who cant level from 66-70 hunter in 1 day is like wow gee golly mazhar that sounds like the perfect pick for me
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>>563469380
Last thread somebody linked a retard with a build for "dad gamers"
After picking all the AFK relics and talking about ways to keep from going AFK like a wireless mouse, he then said to pick Flow State
The poopsockers can't help but revert to their poopsock ways
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>without understanding that it's for speedrunning dragon cup
um... sisters?
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>>563469380
It's funny because he does a good job making this clear and explaining why he's picking this and why you should pick something else for another reason
Like he spent 3 minutes tearing down Flow State explaining how it does jack dick for his build point by point and then ends with "but if you're going EH instead yeah it's pretty good actually you should pick it"
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okay time to move
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>>563469546
yeah Flow State is good for old fucks because it speeds up everything with no effort, it's the same reason Endless Harvest is great
poopsockers aren't picking Flow State because they would rather destroy their wrist doing tick manip shit manually
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>>563465760
>>eternal sustenance
>bad because of pacts
My build's self healing is pretty limited, so I'll be taking it, especially since I have Nex in my regions.
Like, the slayer one is nice and all, but I can live without it and I have an actual slayer helm.
>>executioner
>too specialized
I'm torn on executioner. I've always liked guardian for the consistency in my usually hybrid builds, but when I think of doing solo nex, awakened whisperer/vard, and trying to solo ToB, skipping 20% of the fight sounds really appealing.