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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/
>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.
>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gN JQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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Sex with Venator
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VictorCHADS!
VictorSTACIES!
Now it's OUR TURN!
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i love victor
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Love ranking up!
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>>563543530
>Now use your ult on the rejuvenator pit
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>>563544028
Awesome bro.
>>563544051
On august 10th, 2026 I broke out of Oracle 6 after being in that rank for months.
It has been 3 days since then and I am already Phantom 4.
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FORGET THE OBJECTIVES LET'S JUST FUCKING BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
MARVEL RIVALS OVERWATCH YEAH BABY WOOOOOO
LOOK AT MY KDA 2/8/5 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO
COUNTER ITEMS? LOL!!
MACRO?? LMAO!!
LET'S JUST FUCKING TRADE 2 WALKERS FOR A KILL YEAAAAHwe still won
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>>563544186
Oracle really is elo hell. It's full of boosted animals that got there by playing Victor and Haze and other metaslavery bullshit, and also full of smurfs. You also get the worst matchmaking since it drags in people below oracle and way above it.
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>zero kills
>literally 100 damage away from having the lowest along side the Paige
holy mother of cope batman
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LET ME RANK UPPPPPPPPPPP
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Since this game is basically kekkai sensen the game tm, when are they adding cool mermen?
>>563544359
My friend who has a 46% winrate is Oracle 6 lol
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>>563544302
it's amazing, the mental calculations people do. or the lack thereof
had a haze contesting shiv trying to take our walker
the wave was where the guardian would be, and she chased all the way into the library
and then the now-double-stacked wave took the walker
and when someone complained in team chat he just went "the shiv was low"
oracle. the mind boggles
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>>563544659
jesus fuck wrong post
meant for >>563544271
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>>563543968
>Reach Phantom 6
>Yoshi personally curses my account and activates the secret loser que
Mind you I'm not playing meta heroes but god I want to kill myself.
>>563544080
Phantom is no different from ritualist lol I literally have to beg every team to look at the map.
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cute pisslows in /dlg/...
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>>563544797
>>563544659
many such cases
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phantom on my solo queue account but I cant boost my friends out of emissary because they get mad at me everytime I say to pay attention to the minimap or shove/catch a wave or the enemy doesnt stop doing things when you dont see them when they are almost 300 hours in.
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>>563544080
You dont actually want this. You're asking to be promoted to level of incompetence.
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>repeatedly ult someone until they type slurs at you in all chat
Imagine the comment cards our guests will fill~
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>>563544829
Funny enough I'm literally in ritualist right now. I've seen people complain that ranks are basically the same in terms of how shitty everyone's macro is, which is why I just wanna get to phantom because I like the name and white icon. I've long since accepted that the actual match quality is consistently shit until E6 (which I'll never get because I'm also bad).
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>>563545606
>The Matchmacking worse or better?
This was my first and only match today.
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>>563545701
>Its a Dynamo feeds for 30 minutes until he randomly presses ult and wins episode.
Dishonest character.
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So when are they going to buff Holliday?
There are multiple character that do her gimmick but are 10x easier and more impactful than her.
Feels like you have to put hundreds of hours into her just to get an value out of her.
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I always do the least amount of damage and I don't know why. I suck no matter the character. I just played Mo Krill and did only 11k damage.
I also have very little souls even if I farm a lot. Can someone tell me what I could do wrong? I legit have no idea.
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>>563546029
>So when are they going to buff Holliday?
Soon(tm) they already put in some code that may change crackshot
>There are multiple character that do her gimmick but are 10x easier and more impactful than her.
>Feels like you have to put hundreds of hours into her just to get an value out of her.
I agree but i hope they don't make her braindead, i like her being high skill, i just want her to do MORE while being hard as fuck
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>our victor with 50k souls died in 2 seconds to a seven with 40k souls and healbane + toxic + spirit burn
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I hate Paige
Boring look whore
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>>563546557
>well done Jonathon
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>>563546375
probably positioning. you're not putting yourself in positions that lead to fights or good farm. maybe focusing too much on safe jungle creeps + sinners when your team is grabbing lane creeps and spotting gank opportunities.
its also important to actually hit your shots, you may need a lower mouse sensitivity.
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I wish to start playing deadlock. I will start by learning Rem as he seems to be macro-y and I always play support before moving to other characters. Is there a Rem I should be watching to learn tips and tricks or do I just wing it
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>>563547105
I've been on two back to back 5 loss streaks and still haven't been comm banned despite calling people niggers and telling the tryhard meta abusers to go hang themselves
Its literally impossible to get banned.
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>>563547028
ritualist has a big player pool. there are games where people run urn all the time, and there are games where some retards run past the walker to try and destroy the base guardians 15 minutes in for whatever reason
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>>563547207
if you want to learn macro play a carry because carries need to know how to rotate from lane to jungle and back again, when to solo push a walker, when to join a fight or get an objective, etc
at the lowest level supports just follow carries around and shoot their spells. you won't learn any good macro from playing sup
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Is Doorman gutted? I haven't been able to play for a week
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>>563547207
Play someone else first and learn the actual movement/mechanics before playing Rem
He's good but your main strength is being a sneaky fuck and stealing the enemy's shit. If you don't have good movement or a good getaway plan you're just gonna hand free shit to the enemy when they come hunting for you
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hit ascendant 7 today bros
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>>563546751
>If she is in the air her barrels should already be primed to explode when hitting the ground I should have to light melee it.
HUGE disagree anon, the barrel tech allows for shit like this https://files.catbox.moe/1wefk0.mp4i really like that even if I'm not that good and it would be depressing if they started to dumb down characters left and right, like there's already characters like giest who literally doesn't have to aim any of her abilities with 2 abilities literally being impossible to miss and 2 having huge hitboxes, same with dynamo who just has to be in the same zipcode as his target to land shit
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just ran into siractionslacks in street brawl lmao I was trying to joke and he was getting mad faggy about getting a kill before I was allowed to speak loooool here's your dota ambassador
https://litter.catbox.moe/4uiojn2jxe1b4une.mp4
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>>563547417
I wouldn't say that but in Phantom/Ascendant you can tell everyone is a moba player who will just casually call you all kinds of shit.
Eternus might be different since you have no life retards who wannabe be (((pro))) and don't want to get ABL'd
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>>563547207
if you want macro character just play mirage or graves, if you want to win don't pick supports might be the most useless role in the game if you don't have sentient humans
(chall in league picked up the game last month already eternus)
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>>563547284
It all depends. If a stack reports you, you get auto restricted.
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>>563548214
I think I said 'is that a real influencer' after he said 'going in for black hole' like midway through the third round lol he started talking like a salty bitch about how there's a rule for the team where you're not allowed to talk unless you have a kill and it just spiraled from there with me not being serious at all and him being a sassy bitch all the way up until the end
that open mic you see from me at the end is me telling him he takes this too seriously and a nervous laugh where he realized his did take it too seriously, i left I nice message on his profile page too because he's a faggot with an open comment page
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>>563547440
I'm fine with just following carries and learning that way, I haven't played a shooting game in over a decade so I don't really want to throw myself into a dps position just yet. I plan to try Graves (her m1 reminds me of mind shock in s4 league) and then later Vyper once I get used to playing these kinds of games again.
>>563547504
Yes I'm planning on practicing movement/jar routes/vent routes before actually playing against real people because I refuse to be slow and I am directionally challenged so highly likely I'd run into a dead end when escaping. There doesn't seem to be any Rem specific movement tech on the movement wiki in the OP so I guess I should just learn the basics?
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>>563548381
rem is reserved for CUTE GIRLS only!
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>>563548323
His ult still just feels like a bad gimmicky escape tool. It should be a katamari clone and scoop up everyone you roll over, damaging them when you hit walls.
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>>563548018
>supports might be the most useless role in the game if you don't have sentient humans
I don't know. I feel like "support" supports are shit but playing the knee breaker support with all debuffs and serving enemies up on plate for people is great.
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>>563548473
This nigga watching fat men using a voice changer with a vtumor model
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I will have at least 2 sentient humans dragging me through matches once I start. Is Rem really that bad? I'm used to playing super low agency supports
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>>563548323
Hes too gimmicky to be good. The punch should be replaced with something less annoying.
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>>563548464
lol I have like 10+ heroes selected for street brawl and had been randoming anyway, not some fool practicing my one tricks
here's the (equally in proportion to his faggy nature) comment I left on his page
>my man treating street brawl like it's The International and you were invited to actually play instead of be a clown, gotta be more positive in the turbo for fun game mode
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seven is unironically easier than haze you just shoot people and they melt and the ult is just used defensively so it doesn't matter that much if you whiff it
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has anyone managed to track down icefrog's steam ID? i want to see one of his replays
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>>563544070
He's untargetable while flying into his teammate and when resting alongside his teammate but any pre-existing debuff can still hurt him once he's in sleep mode. Best example is Vyper's Lethal Venom, if you don't time Tag Along well the venom will kill him in his sleep. Same for Pocket's Affliction and if combo'd with Spirit Burn you can also kill Rem in his sleep.
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Whats stopping me from typing in match id: 00000001 into the replay menu?
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why am i getting put into low arcanist lobbies as ritualist 2-3? Is this game dead already? Or people behind matchmaking are crayon eaters?
I bet it's the latter, seeing how CS requires you to download faceit to have a good quality matchmaking and it's been like that for over a decade
Also I hope this viscous troon kills himself at some point.
>complains about apollo for the whole game feeding this faggot's ego
>tell him to buy slowing hex
>doesn't and keeps complaining for next 20 minutes
>lets yamato and apollo do whatever they want and snowball
>tells me I'm dogshit if I believe that buying counters early would help
well myabe im dogshit but i dont see how buying obvious counters in mid game would decrease our chances
Also I'm so fucking sick running between right and left lane for the entire time 70% fucking games I play. One game I focus on ganking more and it goes to complete shit. And if I run 2 lanes i don't get to gank and i don't get to farm. If I farm one lane, some faggot joins instead going to the other side. I swap lanes and some other faggot joins again
there is no winning at pisslow. Full of rivals/OW troons
and I keep hearing people say how if i just do the objectives and focus on macro im gonna win 90% of my games.
Fuck hero shooters and fuck mobas. I'm this close to going back to tf2 or WoW. It's been a long while since last time i played such a tilting game
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>Holiday with all damage items has lowest damage in the lobby
>even less damage than the support Paige building utility
Holiday is such a throw pick, If I ever see her on my team again I'm just practicing box routes/mobility and accept that we are playing 5v6.
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forot pic
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>>563548576
yea but you'll never have the potential to solo carry a game as someone like wraith or seven
>>563548605
honestly I just play rem as a split pusher more than a support but he would be fine but like others have said he does require a bit more knowledge (map routes timers on sinners etc)
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>today I'll play 6v6
>2 hours of brool
Bruh, i can't, it feels like the normal mode is too fucking dry, even the jungle camps and objectives aren't all that fun, it feels like im just going through the motions
>>563549805
That's kinda the point, if you want to fight build gun or spirit pillow nuke with echo shard, though if you want to be spicy you can try to build for farming and minnon spamming so they take walkers and shit with heroic and the drum healing item
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF-mxwECgBo
Man, I love deleted voicelines like these
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melee tards seething they cant just bait out a parry then win for free
fuck off
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>Pick McGinnis
>Ult Towers
>Win
Sometimes I think everyone complaining about brooling and op carries just refuse to push objectives.
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>>563550358
normal mode is just praying your team brools at the right moment, there's no other strategy than "get lanes in good position then brool for mid boss" that's it, that's the entire game. Macro does not exist beyond hit wave, look for fight while wave pushes. Maybe run urn if all waves pushing if enemy not brooling.
It's really stupid.
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>>563550878
>try to push walker
>turn into a werewolf
>Forced to awooo in the opposite direction to avoid the walker stomp
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worst game of my life
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Why is Geist getting so much fanart lately? Does being meta really help that much?
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>Dynamo, Lash, Billy
1 small camps between waves, especially if you're against a lane what doesn't have much burst damage that can punish you.
>Venator
How are you even falling behind here? Buy monster hunter rounds then eat the entire jungle when your waves push up past mid.
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>>563547903
I played with him in Dota 2 when I queued with a friend and he was that same shit of talking way too much and the second somebody told him nobody cared he spent the entire game being passive aggressive and trying to pin the blame for everything on that person as the rest of the lobby was silent. It was kind of funny to learn he's some internet darling or community personality when my friend mentioned it before the game began just to hear him act like this the whole game. And it's good to see Dotards never change
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>>563547903
When I was brand new to the game in august 2 years ago now almost he kept saying I should play the tutorial (I died like 2 times in lane).
My friend played with him in dota and he half joking made comments about how he wasnt playing in their party if he played necrophos again
It's a consistent behavior from him to complain in a pseudo joking manner
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Sex with Dynamo!
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>>563548473
Based doobert
>>563548584
Dooby is a real woman and she is cute.
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I don't even play this game I just like watching what people have to say about it after they lose and come back here. It reminds me of people who hate themselves for gambling money when they leave the casino for the night but instead of blaming the machines or their luck they have human outlets for their hatred and it inspires absolutely amazing posts. You don't get that sort of raw repetition of anger in many other game
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>>563552191
You can't have sex with a collapsing star you IDIOT!
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Dynamo is fine where he is for the most part. Increase TP cooldown increase based on allies teleported and make stomp have 3 max charges total with a slightly longer cooldown and people will quit bitching about him
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you were looking around the wrong side of the cursed apple and then you see a gargoyle and you say you know i stick my dick in it!
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>>563552947
All this time and she's STILL top of the dogpile
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>563552262
>the win rates of the entire cast at the highest rank of play are spread anywhere between a staggering 42% to 56%
>there's like 10 characters below 48%
>and only one below Viable, called "Situational" (win rate of 42.9% at Eternus 4+)
Amazing
What does one have to do to earn a plain "Bad"? Heal enemies on m1?
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>>563553027
THEY'RE NOT BRINGING ME DOWN!
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>>563553114
maybe this nigga just isn't for me
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>>563552262
Geist isn't over powered, just buy antiheal
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What's the most damage (You) have ever done in a game? I think pic rel is the highest out of my screenshots anyway.
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>>563544446
to be fair he had to lane against the smurf discord duo with a braindead gun ivy
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>>563552245
For me it's the undeserved smugness when they escape a situation due to them simultaneously being obscenely tanky and having 3 different mobility options.
Shiv's kit is an absolutely atrocity and the game is significantly less enjoyable whenever he's viable. A character should not be mobile and beefy at the same time, and Shiv players get to take the most retarded trades and win because of how absurdly overstatted he is.
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>>563553190
Silver has the least fun itemization in the entre goddamn game
Not only is it extremely rigid, with other heroes it feels like you're building up on their strengths and growing in power. With Silver you're actually just patching the massive gaping holes in her kit as they start popping out.
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>>563552262
It's time for people to understand that high ranked players are every bit as capable of making mistakes and misunderstanding things as well as having biases. And that's okay, you should never trust the input of strangers online 100%
But you should call people who care about the pros niggers and call the pros niggers and call the casters niggers
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>>563547028
I've been at ritualist for about 2 weeks now and this isn't true. In my lobbies urn is run almost every time it spawns and midboss is usually run at least once (people are still bad at taking it off of small advantages and just wait until there's basically a team wipe before attempting it). Ritualist has people who placed initiate with hundreds of hours logged who are probably better than emissary/archon players who got placed up there for free despite being brand new to the game.
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SKILL ISSUE , if you were good enemies adapt to you not the other way around
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holy shit matchmaking has been so abysmal im tired boss im on the 7 loss streak of rando retards
running it down off the bat and the game being over the first 15 minutes in
Who let the gravel eating monkeys out?
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>>563553707
I had a similar experience a few weeks ago. at first I felt despair seeing my rank go down 6 notches but then I realized now I was in a position that I could play whatever hero I want; no more having to only choose sweat picks. I also realized I could do gimmick builds and still win like spirit drifter or gun rem. when I was higher rank people still don't look at the map or even know there's a last-hit mechanic and have no concept of "you get more souls shoving a lane back than spending 3 minutes trying to kill a single fat jungle creep" so nothing changed there. You're freer than you were before, and if you really miss your old rank for some crazy reason you can boost yourself in brawl by spamming cheesy brawl picks.
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>>563554368
Seven, Lash, and Mina.
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>>563554608
canadians are pretty shitty
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>>563554608
Yet you intentionally picked the North American server because Metro said the matches were easier.
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>>563554783
wish granted but her cooking is subpar and she expects you to eat whatever she cooks or gets upset and whenever you two are alone she just lets all of her farts slap out of her ass with zero regard
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>>563554368
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I do this with my Paige/Rem foid duo
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>>563554368
Trying out Haze right now
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>>563556637
It's working as intended and trying to find the braindead feeders to put on (you)r team
>>563556246
Women are so gross...
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The Lash: Locked in
Yep it's deadlock time
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I don’t think I should play today. I was playing Billy with wraith Paige and rem against drifter warden Yamato and Sinclair.
I should fucking not play today that was fucking awful. I tried to be aggressive and I got hard focused, and even when I backed off I got in CC hell and melted
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>>563556637
>brool 1-2min queue [average match length 20 mins]
>standard 3-5min queue [average match length 40 mins]
Idk when they made it so i cannot solo push as any hero, game became 50 min snooze fest. Might as well just hop on dota or lol, deadlock use to be 20-35min, now its hell to queue
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Aim is a skill, though
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Retarded March patch and everything that came after
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>hyper aggressive Paige at the peak of her menstrual cycle
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>>563557193
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Are Mo Krill worth playing? They're the only character so far that I actually seem to enjoy playing gameplay wise. But since they seem to do no damage, I'm not sure what the point is. How do you even play them? As support so that your team gets the kills?
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>no dmg
He is the best initiator and burst hero who does a huge amount of damage in a short frame. Youre playing him wrong. Read your abilitiea. Watch some actual good players on thw watch tab and stop using youtube as a guide if its not plumbing/electrician shit
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>>563556829
I want you to know I laughed, anon
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>Play my main
>Get shit teammates and no m1
>Play broken m1 carry
>Doesn't matter what teammates I have
>Because I just rape everything
What a absolute unfun game. I really hope they add a draft mode in soon or they categorize roles and give us a role queue.
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I have non farting women images I could post instead
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>>563559665
no? he still needs 30 mins of farm minimum and vaporizes in teamfights if you go tank and if you go gun there's objectively better m1ggers. he's a decent spirit nuker but just like gun there's better spirit nukers you could play like stomp dynamo.
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>Infernus dropped into a pushed lane while other walker was being contested
>cleared troopers while dashing, dove a feeder who couldn't even kill him after the Infernus got walker stomped
>finished off the guy and the walker and cleared off grabbing more troopers along the way as they burned behind his dash
>instantly +$5k at minute 18
Jesus Christ. We were ahead in the match at that point but he snowballed hard off that one single play and ran away with the game.
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She has received many a Holy Lance from the Knights of the Round Table!
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She's greatin brawl
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>>563560120
I started doing that thing some anon said in one of these threads where he just otps one character and full mutes the entire lobby the instant he loads in. It's helped a bit but I still get annoyed when I lose.
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>stomp game
>get a lane that goes 0/13 directly into warden
>stomp game
>get a team that goes 0/10 across the board
>get MVP stomp game
>get 5 games in a row of first time players doing no objectives
>directly feeds souls to the three carrys on other team
>get stomped
>spend the next 6 games on a lose streak
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game crashes for months, frames shoot down to the low 20s when I press tab, all these issues ignored. some russian nigger "pro" team finds an exploit to gain +600 more souls in lane and that shit gets fixed in an HOUR or less. what the fuck are these priorities?
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>How do you guys calm down from playing infuriating matches?
I replay review to go over what I could've done about it.
If there really was nothing, which is rare, it calms me down. Otherwise, I just try to do better next time.
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>>563562103
95% of deadlock's "top players" are people that couldn't cut it in overwatch/valorant or retirees from league of lesbians and smite. on top of that the top players of today aren't like the top players of the past in that in the past the top players based their opinions on the wellness for the entirety of the game and its playerbase; now the top players are in only for themselves and the 200-500 people bubble they're in, lower ranks be damned.
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>you shouldn't blame your teammates for your loss, you were part of it too!
meanwhile, the teammates
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>>563563594
you could say the same for 90% of the roster.
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Lash bros am I retarded or something, I came back to this game after a month and it feels like he does barely fucking anything in the mid game now. I used to be able to at least have a decent to good lane, and use that to snowball into the midgame, but now it's like my slam is a wet fucking noodle until I'm almost full build in the late game.
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Lash is pretty meh right now. He relies a lot more on team coordination than he used to. If you wanna play a snowballer early game nuker, just try to learn Apollo. He does everything Lash does but better short of Lash having a better midboss ult.
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Playing against Bebop is fucking annoying because he invincibly 100-0s you no matter how fed you are in the midgame
then you win the game because the clock striked 30m and he is now a ranged creep with a worse Seven ult
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Why are you talking about something that never happens? No one dies for diving you. Especially into tower. Valve gives them whatever they want.
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Thanks for the feedback
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Crazy ass game, this shit was fun as hell though
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>>563562605
They get to maintain their public image without admitting they were wrong
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>higher relative skill rating on my four mains, aka the only characters i play
THEN MAKE MY RANK GO UP YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER YOSHI, WIN/LOSS BASED MATCHMAKING IS SUCH DOGSHIT
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The most important part of Silver is thatshe's Silver and I love her
You literally cannot refute this
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>>563548646
Statlocker, it gives estimations of the player's rank. Like I am in Oracle 6, but statlocker thinks I am Phantom 6/Ascendant 1 usually.
It's usually pretty accurate though, much better than the in-game rank system.
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>>563565426
which is more stinky: her human unwashed snatch or werewolf cookie after taking a fresh piss?
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>>563565923
Silvertroons are the ones upplaying her, retard.
No one is downplaying her, pointing out facts isn't downplaying. I know that you don't like facts like you will never be a woman as they shatter your delusions and hurt your fee fees.
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Seven bros what builds do you recommend? I wanna play him
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>>563566351
build 1 if you can't aim, 3 if you can. 4 if you're low rank for maximum annoyance and don't forget to buy unstoppable/refresher.
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>>563566798
while objectively better I prefer managing as little actives as possible unless I'm playing support like paige. also leech has an easier build up.
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I use this one but with one alteration, the additon of Warp Stone. I ALWAYS buy Warp Stone and Counterspell it's amazing on Seven.
Also, if somehow there aren't m1ggers on your lane you can change suppresor for extra spirit or something else but even with non-m1 characters i tend to buy it because makes people annoyed
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>you guys, YOU can do it! You can be the best that you can be. We can do it together. It's gonna take effort. It's going to take patience. It's gonna take a lot a lot a lot of work. BUT IF WE DONT TRY THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS STOPPING US FROM JUST THROWING OURSELVES DOWN MID AND GIVING UP SAYING YEAH "THE GAME IS DYING" "The community hate us." "The Brawlers are leaving." "The developers aren't contacting us." We might be alone. It might just be you and me in lane. But that's okay. BECAUSE, DO YOU REALLY, NEED, ANYONE ELSE?
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Im a gorilla monkey nigger subhuman
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Technically it's the exact same build up, 1600 for spirit life steal, 4800 to get to leech and infuser, no one ever buys the other life steal before leech anyways.
Still, can Leech let you instantly heal to full and out tank most of what they throw out you? Infuser is much better at that (unless they have spirit burn which means you're fucked no matter which you pick)
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>>563567326
Oh yeah i will buy spirit for my OP 0,14 scailing damage in lane, dumbass. It's almost like you never played him to know he does no damage outside of gun in the first 10 minutes
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> Ritualist 6
> Lose game because my team feeds
> Drops me a rank
> This has repeated every game for the last 30 games, where I have two 0-25 feeders who feed the enemy carry
> Game continually drops me ranks and matches me with even worse feeders
> Initiate 2 now
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headshot booster, cold front, mystic shot
healbane is sorta fine but less good now that healing creep nerfed
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>>563567387
Tower doesn't do shit to begin with because Valve is deathly afraid of ever buffing them. And you know it's 100% because Competitive players will cry that they're not allowed to dive for free kills anymore, they'd have to fucking THINK about consequences, what a shame.
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The game should have an anti (intentional) feed like they don't drop any soulds to the enemy after the 15th death in the last 10 minutes or something because i swear people do it on purpose...
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I can see HS booster being good for sure
>Coldfront
Mystic shot only works on lash and i can't be convinced otherwise
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>>563554368
formerly Rem, since I started off playing with my Oracle/Phantom friends and was new to mobas. Theta build.
currently Calico, Thuh melee build, since I used to play Mount & Blade Warband Napoleonic Wars on a Macbook trackpad, no right clicks, only melee spam with the bayonet. Surprisingly I retained some of my skill. You get up close and personal to people, they tend to freak out. The more people join the fight, the more you can heal and the less predictable you become. It's also the most fun character because you play mindgames with the opps, to bait out a flinch is or to succesfully parry are the most rewarding experiences ingame.
Except for maybe a funny Doorman cheese
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When are they going to rework drifter? He's gotta be the most inconsistent hero in the game. He's ONLY good if the other team is playing bad or maybe if they have a feeder or two for him to prey on. In an even match, he's useless
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Bebop, Dynamo, Ivy, The Lash, Mina, Pocket, Viscous, Yamato
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>It's because Comp players will cry that they can't dive tower
Towers aren't strong because if diving is too difficult people just lock in greedy ricers that are countered in lane like Wraith, Geist, or Mirage and they get a free pass on the part of the game they're supposed to be shut down in
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>>563568591
Sorry, in my rank players know how to rotate to their own jungle faster than an unfed drifter can secure a gank
>>563568613
drifter is dogshit in lane, that's part of why he's so bad. needs stacks to do damage, needs damage to get stacks. the change to assists helps but the enemy team has to be throwing for you to get isolated kills/assists in lane
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I'd rather just play a different hero who can deal consistent damage and also buy TB
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>>563568808
True that, Americans like to talk about how playing support or doing team plays is hard in solo queue due to people being dumb but the average Russian is barely sentient let alone able to speak a 2nd language so good fucking luck.
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>>563568714
get good at separating one of the enemies out with your wall so you and your team can gang rape them.
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the best thing about Calico
is that almost no players bother to learn melee, they either spam heavy melee or parry a lot
but as a melee main, you always have a skill advantage to these players
and your hero and build are optimized for it
so playing Calico well will land you very high kill games because if you pull even slightly ahead, you can clobber the fuck out of players that don't have any solid greens yet
also her movement tech is insanely flexible, and since Ava is invisble on the minimap you can safely get buffs
she creates a lot of space since to really defeat a Calico, you typically need three heroes or more
since she can just heal by striking you
which means continued close proximity
Dynamo, Mina, Viscuous, Pocket, Abrams, Billy, Victor (mostly Victor) are a pain to fight against because getting close to them means a bad time
the best part is when I encounter a Vindicta, Rem, Seven, Paige or other type of character that plays on range.
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>randomly get recommended a deadlock tips video on jewtube
>eating so nothing better to do, watch it
>it's all common sense shit that anyone with 2 braincells can figure out
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>watch video on how to get better
>gameplay is just an easy laning phase against retards who don't fight back
>farm for 20 minutes and stomp when you buy your items
>soul difference is 30k+
wow so informative
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also great when you catch someone doing camps
also great when you kill the same guy within 5 minutes
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>>563569291
the average player really is that retarded
>have two lanes shoved against you. you go to unshove one of them
>some retard on your team comes to help(?) unshove the same lane a full 10 seconds later instead of unshoving the other lane that's still not being unshoved
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Good old gunspike into surge of power and gank early when you can, endgame you should get ricochet anyway since it's still good but first some on hit items like inhib/siphon/silencer. Don't play for your ult you are a 1v1 pick hero now, sleep then kill.
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>can now jump out of slide
>can now parry out of grounded dash
>they are actively making the game easier
any noticers?
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>kill himself lv1 in lane and pauses pinging me as if it's my fault (here we go)
>we kill them once we at least have all our abilities (shoking)
>fucks off to afk jg pinging urn anyway and griefs the game
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Pop quiz time
who is going to catch these waves?
>A: Rem
>B: Calico
>C: The waves will crash into our base for free!
I was 20k ahead of my entire team just from being lane jannie yet I couldn't join fights because I was busy killing troopers all game.
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Just played against a Wraith that was obviously using a "QOL" cheat mod that showed her buff timers and spawn timers, without fail the moment a buff spawns she's there, a sinner she's there, a camp she's there
BAN ALL MODS THEY ARE CHEATS
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>look up the profile of my team's inter
>3500 hours of destiny 2
>3200 hours of lost ark
>1400 hours of ark
>930 hours of warframe
>625 hours of rust
>charlie kirk pfp
>racist bio
>52 pages of people saying he's a cheater in every game possible dating back to 2017
cherry on top
>chilean
yoshi sending his best
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Oh nooo, this player knew the moment that something spawned when all the timers are the exact same every time. Surely it must be mods.
Just call them out for playing Wraith and perma farming in general. They only play because she's busted at the moment and they want their sweet free wins.
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popular because its a good character design and va?
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>Play solo
>Everybody permabrools
>Play with friends
>Everybody permabrools
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>>563572909
I was about to call you silly but I just looked and realised his damage deferring level 3 is actually really good holy shit
Why the fuck does this build I'm using max it last
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>no i WONT do the mini-game.
>YES i will let DOORMAN have 13s ult!
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I mean, you if you 99% of the damage to an enemy and someone else gets full credit for it, that's kind of annoying. The REAL problem is the people claiming that's grounds for you being shit when you haven't actually died that much but your team gets all the kills. Even more retarded when someone tries to call you out for zero kills when you're a support. Like damn, they forgot that I don't care about my own kills but whether my team lives and gets kills.
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I think that's the first time I've seen Deathy put Vyper in anything above B tier
It's our time to shine Vyperbros
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Deadlock street brawl anyone?
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You can't fix it, because Valve believes it's fine that a player can run into your jungle and take any sinners they want with zero consequence. Greeding into an enemy jungle should be way, way more dangerous than it currently is and your own jungle should be safer to farm, assuming 2/3 people don't magically home in on you from literal no where. It's what normal people call "risk vs reward" but Moba tards are only given rewards for everything.
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high oracle is top 10% and it's the rank where your icons get bigger
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>>563578409
I bully her by withholding sex while she's in heat. also:
https://litter.catbox.moe/adwi6xe4hv5w3tg9.webp
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I haven't played a normal in forever, everything feels...WEIRD
Still fun, though, even if I can't remember how to farm or itemize properly, Mo basically just said "Paige, buy rusted for this fuck-ass lane" then told me to get knockdown later
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I just left archon and it seemed better there, my match quality has plummeted. This is TRUE pisslow.
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I keep getting support players when queueing up as Haze so I have to carry 1v11 most of the time.
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>>563579292
>huge base bullet damage
>slow rate of fire so headshots are extremely good
Anyone who doesn't buy headshot booster on Dynamo even in normals is really underestimating how good it is for early poke now that your stomp is shorter than my cock
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Yeah I meant on a non smurf. smurfs reach oracle in sub 10 games. So it's just spamming games to rank up after your mmr gets "sticky" which is why I recommend people with 60% winrates not ranking up to just make a new acc or you will be stuck in your shitter rank for too long, waste of time to get to higher quality games.
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>>563579751
for me it's usually somebody mumbling something incomprehensible in their best ray romano impression or some shade of non-white fatigue american being obnoxious in english riddled with slang
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>Does this game has matchmaking algorithm to adjust the heroes you're going to play with based on who you queued as?
absolutely not. more than half my matches are teams with carries vs teams with no carries. these guys are putting brand new players on loss streaks into oracle and you think they're adjusting matchmaking based on hero comp? absolutely not.
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You have no idea how happy I am that this is legit again.
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>>563566351
Gun is for retards and aimbotters, the only two orange items you ever buy are either fleetfoot + Cultist for farmmaxxing or recharging + ballistic for ballmaxxing.
Otherwise fill your slots with purples and a couple of key greens like unstoppable and infuser.
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>>563581648
They can't hear your ugly over the mic, anon, only your desperation.
ProTip: shave your head, grow a long beard, and start power-lifting.
Women fucking LOVE a bearded power lifter no matter what his face looks like under the beard.
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>get into game
>some retard runs down lane and dies 15 times before sinners spawn
>now stuck in game you lost in the first 10 minutes, for the next 30 minutes
>repeat
forfeit vote option when?
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>>563582107
Man my bad for responding to an r9k retard, I forgot you types existed
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>>563582198
Goddamnit
>>563582408
Doesn't a pocket wanna hit a 5 man barrage in a fight and then mow people down with their shotgun from the edges?
Also from what I understand pocket is more useful for jumping into the enemy team, popping afflic and either forcing them to fuck off, or weakening them for your team to follow up in a moment rather than staying in the fight
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>>563578864
>troopers drop healing orbs
>now this
yeeess.... yeeesssssss, give me HotS 2, valve........
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>their
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was asc6, took a 2 month break and came back calibrated at phantom 1. lmao the matchmaker is awesome. shiv also just feels better now, his knives are crazy. prob cus noone buys DBR down here
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>>563544359
Ritualist to Emissary are by far the worst ranks. It's exactly what you're describing x10.
>>563547872
If you die 10 times you're kind of a team anchor, to be honest. Yes you were landing kills, but you also created a hyper carry or two.
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Is there a more sinking feeling in deadlock than seeing your teammate type in cyrillic?
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the netcode on this game is so abysmal if you have even 40 ping you are at a signficant disadvantage. you can literally be behind a wall but if the the enemy shoots where you were 2 seconds ago it'll hit. you can use an ability, see it activate, and then the cooldown will refund and it'll disappear. I just aft-f4 when I get overseas servers now
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>>563584414
eat shit europoor
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>>563584458
This happened in my favor the other night and I still don't know what happened. Enemy team was up like 30k and I got so mad I just afk'd, clicked back in after taking a shit and getting a snack to see my team somehow started to catch up in souls. One midboss later we just snowballed and ended up winning. I might download that replay just to see how those retards not only didn't win 6v5 with a 30k soul lead but managed to lose.
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>>563584870
tank your rank in brawl
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>>563585034
Over-rotating is probably the most common macro mistake I see in pubs. It makes sense on a lot of levels, people want to be helpful but they can't read the minds of what everyone else is doing so everyone just independently rotates only to realize they've accidentally deathball'd. Either that or they're just retards and wanna pad KP%.
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>>563585332
3 seconds would be an actual nerf
.3 is a slap on the wrist
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>getting russian in my NA game at 2am
>proceeds to run it down, typing ggs at like 5 minutes into the game
why are russians like this again?
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>game 1 no one want to push
>game 2 no one want to push
>game 3 no one want to push
>game 4 no one want to push
>game 5 no one want to push
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make dynamo's ult a cone he has to aim
fixed him
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gun visc is still broken
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what rank are you guys. deadlock says im seeker 3 but everyone in my games is a drooling toddler and i just turn into an evil fucking rape demon. statlocker says im alchemist 3 but I just want to get to a rank where niggas don't wander off and lose walkers doing god knows what
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>>563589027
>absolutely go beast mode early to mid game farming kills left and right
>swan dives off a cliff late game when the rest of the lobby outscales you
>get called trash for your troubles
The average Silver experience.
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>>563542931
Yesterday night I Lost 4 matches in a row. Cant wait to get back from work and lose 4 more today
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>le sassy gay boy of infinite movement (not stopped by slowing hex btw)
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>>563589027
Points for trying, anon.
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>>563589578
>and change the name to silver edge
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>>563589027
I haven't had much luck either anon, maybe she really is OP in competitive but in pubs she is a non hero.
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Game gives too many welfare souls to shitters. Like how does a 12/1 Haze have only 1k more souls than a 0/4 Kelvin? It’s demoralizing to own the enemy repeatedly only to see that you only have one 1600 item on them. That’s not a MOBA, that’s team deathmatch
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>>563589910
i think the reason comp fags claim she is meta S++++ is because her early game can actually be leveraged into a legit advantage for early urn fights and mid boss which will then translate into big leads for the carry fags to close out the game. Meanwhile in pubs early game dominance only matters if you personally can use it to rape the enemy team to death hard enough they quit cause the chances your team will take advantage of having a rapist on board to get a general lead are close to zero
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>>563590378
One of her critical issues is that she does zero objective damage. I don't mind losing a early lead if I can get a macro advantage (Walker) but holy fuck her gun might be the worst at it, you are straight up just better off holding heavy melee.
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>>563590378
And this is one of the major problems, is that people just don't recognize pros play in a completely different environment
So when el ebin metafagging shitter of the week #1278 (let's call this hypothetical person something faggy like "deathy") says X hero is OP, people think that must apply to THEIR games as well as to the profag's games
And they do this on purpose to drive engagement btw, you really don't hate these creatures that call themselves """pros"""" enough
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>haze presses 4 to kill team with multiple counters
HEEEELPPP HELPPPP YOSHI I CANT PLAY ANYMORE
>le chungus reddit science man presses 4 to kill team with 0 counterplay
now this is heckin epic keanu wholesome chungus 100! remember to get the vaxx!
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>>563590750
>Person that's been maining a character for a long time suddenly gets to shine when the character gets to become meta
>Person who's a metaslave bouncing between le S+ tier heroes isn't actually good at said heroes and just feeds nonstop
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>Get holiday in a bot game
>Shes still feeding
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>>563591220
Holliday needs barrel damage increased, remove the need to light melee if throwing them from altitude, change the lasso to be like Celeste ult that you can hold indefinitely, maybe a bit better gun scaling and she'll be fine. You'll still need to be good with her movement and hitting your shots/barrel to do well but will be lifted out of being a complete throw pick
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>>563591412
Holliday needs an entire kit rework IMO she should be *the* gun hero remove the dumb barrels and dumb jump pad for something else I hate how Holliday's lore is "she inherited this legendary revolver but the best way to play her is to toss barrels" and make Crackshot not utter dogshit probably the worst passive/ability in the entire game
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On that note Holliday just makes no sense as a character you can tell she was made before the game became do 9000x with a single button slop seriously
>oh if you hit this headshot you can slow them and erm do like 400 something damage teehee
>meanwhile dynamo's 1 has charge it knocks you up does 9.5 billion damage is a great wave clear and debuffs you
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>spend 2 weeks grinding doorman and climbing from archon 6 to oracle 5
>decide to learn m1 carries despite having doshit aim
>derank from oracle 5 to archon 4 in 3 days
Why the FUCK do loss streaks have so much more impact on your rank than win streaks?
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>>563591734
>Ascendant friend wants to queue up with me (I am arcanist)
>He insists on doing standard because he hates street brawl even though I would have preferred brool mode
>We get put in an oracle lobby
>Everybody knows movement tech and fly around the map nonstop
>He instantly gets tilted as fuck and feeds and yells at our team (for not reading his mind and following him into enemy jungle) and hits his desk and ragequits the game halfway through
I never want to rank up if this is what awaits me, I'll stick to being shitlow
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>enemy team has tons of anti-heal
>pick up unstoppable to "temporarily suppress NEGATIVE STATUS EFFECTS"
>press it
>anti-heal isn't suppressed
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>>563592349
I hate that I know that most of these probably got removed because "erm not concise enough for comp shit down the line", like seven pinging paradox had sentence long line "So the time witch reveals herself." and now it's just "I see paradox."
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>>563593004
>like seven pinging paradox had sentence long line "So the time witch reveals herself."
I think it's more because she's not 'the' time thief (not witch) anymore, she's just 'a' time thief.
More likely's the case it's either to sanitize things (like Lash and Holliday's swearing) or just because the line isn't relevant anymore
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>>563593581
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>>563593186
There's still F-bombs in the game I'm pretty sure.
>>563593581
Cute Lilah.
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>>563593885
Retreat
Retreat!
Retreat!!
Retreat!!!
>multiple death screams
Sorry
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>giga feed one match, letting my team down
>win next match 5v6
you guys wouldn't understand the redemption matches
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>friend of a friend I really like (both noobies) is a le*guebab and won't stop whining about how this game sucks when he's the one doing <10k dmg in street brawls and going 2/9
>have to resist the urge to call him a bitch and a scrub because otherwise my actual friend would probably have to stop playing with me
How do I deal with this situation without passing off as a cunt?
/blog
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>win four (4) standard matches in a row
>just won one that was a fucking 4v6 because our rem and doorman got obliterated by a dynamochad in lane, so 5 now
>rating still hasn't budged an inch
i see why people smurf now
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>>563589027
Yeah, I'm shelving her too. Played 70 games on her. It started well enough, then I went on a massive loss streak I couldn't break out of and it's back to 50:50 now. Won 31 of these in total.
It's a shame because I like the way she plays but it's just plain infuriating how you become a non-entity after 30 minutes. It's not even fun any more, you just do fucking nothing and explode in wolf as the overall TTK drops and amount of CC rises. And here in pisslow every game goes on forever. She has zero carry potential in these games because nobody will help you end early. I've lost a shitload of games where I got fed midgame and it all translated to nothing as enemy m1ggers outpaced us later anyway.
She also needs the stars to align with the team comp lottery. No beefy initiator on your team generally means a bad time once brooling starts. And the enemy comp - I once had a game where literally everyone was a hypermobile movement button faggot and it genuinely made me want to alt+f4. No amount of bola, wave and slowing hex is making this shit tolerable. She's fantastic in 1v1s but she does have lots of really bad match ups that require buying multiple counters.
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she needs a late game buff real bad but its never going to happen since pro fags think she is A or S tier since her early game translates to advantage for early urn fights and mid, and as such she is valuable there, good luck doing any of that shit in pubs, so Silver just ends up being the ultimate win lane lose game character. It'll be really funny if the shitass devs see the pro fags calling her busted and actually nerf her though, send her down to the Holliday pit because streamer fags and pro fags also claim that ackshually Holliday is good you just need to be able to perfectly execute every single movement exploit in the game for 30 minutes straight and achieve 80% + accuracy with her shitty revolver and hit every lasso :) (and they still wont pick her cause she fundamentally sucks)
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ice white
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> Slid from Ritualist 6 to Initiate 3 over the last three days due to feeders and leavers
> Boot game up today, surely I won't get a 30th forced loss in a row
> Ivy goes 0-11 on lane
> Game over in under 20 minutes
> I am the only person on the entire team who has done any objective damage at all
> Now down to Initiate 1