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Urban Predator Edition
>News
Black Cat character reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7a5F9oJwo
Dev vision vol 16: https://youtu.be/Z6JC-ciabRg
Balance Notes: https://x.com/marvelrivals/status/2044143818870550725
White Fox Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/esb1CBW2WK8
Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams
Hospitality 101 Event: https://x.com/i/status/2041591841058124198
Version 20260326 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260325/41667_1292877.html
Dual Life of Peter Parker event: https://x.com/i/status/2034336534070272258
>Store
Black Cat's Urban Predator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbalW0qYaQ
Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174
Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501
Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398
Ultron's Odinforce Ultron skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033981697981546574
White Fox's Yoon Ji-woo: The Leader skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033966601918181456
The Thing's Fear Itself and Daredevil's Born Again Season 2 skins: https://x.com/i/status/2031407298669666551
Psylocke's Once-Captive Corsair & Captain America's Cursed Captain skins: https://x.com/i/status/2029738798007886162
>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/
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>>563625197
their team-up will be something lewd?
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Messed up,
real previous thread!
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More flank lunas incoming
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idk if it matches based on stats per se. i have not noticed that. i think they just give you more rank points based on whether you are performing better/worse vs the average player on that hero (same metric as ace status), and then multiplying your rank change based on that. so naturally that means that one-tricks get boosted beyond where they should be, versatility players get shafted a little bit, and tank players suffer the most because your ace as a tank is most dependent on how well your team is doing (so you may as well switch off of tank in a losing game and try to pad your stats). not to mention that the whole idea of "ace" is flawed to begin with, because stats don't win games, winning games wins games, and there's no real way to measure that by someone's actions without extremely involving machine learning or some shit like that
i suspect they are falling in all the same pitfalls as most other competitive game devs where they hear complaints about the matchmaking, so they try to overengineer the metrics and matching principles to to the point that the players' chances of winning individual matches deviate more and more from the players' ranks. if anything, they should be removing as many of the other matching principles so that rank points are divvied up correctly and players reach their true ranks as quickly as possible. that's what actually creates balanced matches in the long run, not fudging the rank gains for players because "buh buh my kd"
the only thing they SHOULD have done to improve matchmaking (imo) was introducing behavior score like dota, and basically using that as the other rating to match players with. basically, if you throw or grief so much that no one likes playing with you, then you get to play with others like you.
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i think this is actually a good change. the next step is removing the heal from her m1 entirely and making her shift spell a toggle with limited duration, so that you can play her as like an adam but korean
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Peni will keep getting buffs until she rapes everyone
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>No Rocket changes
>again
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why is chudcros back on the card?
I thought he was blacklisted for chuddy behavior
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>>563625786
god i wish she could get out of sp//dr and do that to me ingame
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these niggas on Twitter are not happy that Black Cat got such an overloaded kit. they are demanding reworks for older heroes now.
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>>563625884
One of the biggest victims of Season 0 Syndrome. If he was released today he'd be kitted out with gadgets out the ass.
Instead he's a healbot.
>>563626207
It's about time. When you compare even Season 1 heroes like Invis to the beta heroes it's ridiculous.
>S0: "Uh well Wolverine's power is healing but it'd be too broken to just have a character with constant passive healing right? How about he gets extra lifebar once every two minutes on a cooldown?"
>S1: "Uh well Invisible Woman's power is turning invisible let's have her be able to do it at will all the time in multiple forms and she gets passive healing from it at the same time."
If Invis was designed with S0 logic she'd be able to turn invisible once every two minutes no passive healing. Instead they started making characters more authentic to their actual powers more or less and not just filling Hero Shooter roles.
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>>563625786
We demand Peni sex and we demand it now
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This morning I was playing a really close game and our OTP Jeff crashed out and alt-f4d because like 3 people including myself were telling him to swap to Rocket when he was dying nonstop to Hulk, Spider-Man, and Black Panther.
He even tried to swap to Cloak & Dagger like 30 seconds before the match ended. Our Star lord was so upset because he got 32 finals and still lost the match.
Even the favela niggers on League of Legends aren't this retarded.
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Rogue has the worst ult in the game and I'm tired of pretending that isn't the case.
She is a tank but her ult doesn't enable any of her teammates, it doesn't protect her, and 99% of the time its useless because she gets her ult too slowly so you'd only ever be using it on enemies that have already spent their ult.
Its weaker than DDs ult, why doesn't her ult reduce or remove her cooldowns???
Rogue needs so much fucking help.
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>Your Main
>Favorite Skin
>Favorite Ability
For comic book readers:
>The best run/storyline your main has been in
>The way your favorite ability has been utilized
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>>563626207
Oh my fucking god who the fuck caaaaaaaaares??? Every day with you people is reddit said this, discord is saying this, twitter said this, blah blah fucking blah holy shit nobody gives a fuck. If I wanted twitters opinion, I'd be on twitter. Can you not have an original goddam thought? It always has to be couched with someone else saying it as justification? Goddam I'm so tired of it.
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>>563626646
>Open the round with a Strange portal
> Straight to the objective
>Big fight
>Save all my Fortune
>Get wiped
>Buy 10 portals straight to the objective again
>Cap point
Thanks Guangguang
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>>563626937
Crazy good idea
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I dont want shulkie or marvel to be tanks now, its the least thought out role in the game.
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>>563627039
We ended up winning that game because I hardcarried that game on groot but im pretty certain if that fucking retard was playing against sweatier opponents than he would have gotten folded and still blamed everyone else for the loss
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Holy Ultron has a real support ult now that also kills people
He's going to be busted as fuck this season, between that and him seeing use in pro play people will finally notice he's good and he'll get nerfed in S8, screenshot this
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>haven't played for most of the season
>jump back into ranked now
>it's all controller players on PC playing only melee characters
I'm going to SHIT
it's literally all melee besides me and whenever I spectate it's controller inputs
besides how shit it feels to play almost any shooter with controller, why do it on PC ranked?
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>>563627183
I really don't see Capt Marvel as some 200+ HP squishy duelist, even with bonus health. Like if I ever see her get 2-3 tapped by Punisher's shotgun the only reaction Ill have is ," What a shitty version of Capt Marvel".
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>>563627280
Don't worry. The Black Cat rollout videos will come by next week.
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>>563627503
my sweet sweet summer child...DD and elsa are some of the healthiest picks in the game
give carol a dash that gives her overshield and make it 2 Secs, she heals on every shot and give her a ult thats uninterruptible ...I rather that than
>tank who cant handle tank dps coming towards them like rogue
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Emptying my wallet for mommy Felicia!!!
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>>563626045
>Eskay
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>>563627736
Its sad the only thing that makes them "tanks" is getting uber'd by healers hahaha what a joke
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>>563628139
FOr SHe yes
carol is actually fast
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>>563628180
Findom is a shit fetish.
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SG. Stupid question.
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>>563628153
Literally no one knows what the fish does
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>>563628153
>stealing from apex
Why do they only take from other live service games?I hope the new heroes added after this more unique and not just a mismash of what already is in the game
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>>563626462
i agree with you and the Twitter sentiment. new characters are getting STACKED kits that make S0 heroes look unfinished. it is fucking insane that Felicia has all these magical artifacts and spells but Scarlet Witch is just a flying vacuum that explodes once every 2 or 3 minutes.
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>>563628153
From top left, clockwise, and starting with the fireball:
>throw it, can suspend in air, tethers to opponents and lets you see through walls to see them. maybe also a slow?
>mermaid tail looking thing: throws down a bubble shield that cleanses
>portal: Strange portal, but seemingly only on walls
>Fish: it at least pulls down enemies, gives them a white bar that seems to be a debuff
>Return the slab: Gives her 1000 coins
>Tiara: invis
>>563628556
it's much less Apex than I thought. it's just 6 abilities in one
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>>563628556
>me when designs in a character based genre are largely derivative
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>>563628153
Crown: Invisibility ala Psylocke
Box: Strange's portal
Evil Head: Something that let you see opponents like DD and beam their ass
Fish: Some AOE thing
Stone: Give you money?
Helmet: Bubble that remove Elsa's trap
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>its another "team collectively loses 100 iq points and starts getting dominated after crushing the first 7 minutes" episode
literally why does this keep happening and what can i do about it as a lowly tank player?
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>>563629024
>make BC steal skills better than rogue
>rogue cels on suicide watch
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There's usually a reason you start losing. Most common I think for low level players is you go almost deathless and steamroll with momentum for that first section and then one person on your team dies. It takes a bit for the rest of the team to die, in worst case they slowly get picked one by one, and then when everyone respawns they immediately hold W to the objective without regrouping. You then spend the rest of the match walking into a 1v6 over and over until you eventually lose.
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I assume he meant Loba but even then Felicia is different enough. It's just she has a shop.
Ironically Felicia is buying the abilities while Loba straight up steals equipment
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You use coins to buy the abilities, and to use her claw whip thing. You get them per hit, landing her E, and. per kill. It looks like 150 per kill and 50 per hit. Idk if assists get you some too
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>>563625884
Those patch notes were entirely nothing, holy shit, I was actually surprised, then again the dev vision itself was entirely short. Like nothing but vast amount of empty space except for a few selection of heroes. I guess they thought the CC change alone was enough not to go through every hero lmao.
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I wish Squirrel Girl got that post launch Akira Toriyama bloated power level handjob kit they keep giving every new hero release. Possibly would've been an interesting melee brawler hero character rather than just
>"Oh shit we need a Junkrat rep while we're stealing shit from Ogrewatch, uh uh, Squirrel Girl will do!"
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I… I changed my name, guys…
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Is everyone retarded today?
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>Have MVP on Ultron in 2/2/2 and was winning
>Second tank decides to go third DPS
>We start getting pushed back
>I can't fucking play Ultron anymore, even at ground level because Strange is getting ignored and I go Loki
>It's not working
>Lose second round
>I lose MVP because of this retarded second tank going third DPS and I'm forced to go tank because I don't trust this faggot as he can swap on a dime
>Enemy surrenders but the faggot who swapped steals MVP
What an undeserved fucking MVP, even as Groot, he was in front of their spawn door fighting and dying.
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what is this from
once of you posted it so you have to know
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>>563628556
I don't see a problem
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>>563628153
Tablet of Destiny (100): Fortune Gacha gives a random payout of Fortune. Gave her a 1000 jackpot in the trailer.
Flame of Faltine (100): A Ward item, like in MOBAs?. Seemed to reveal, no idea what else it does. No idea what the flame target does other than non-damage
Helm of Hades (200): Invisibility for 2 sec
Anti-CC Crystal (200): Negates one instance of CC, unlimited duration
Ring of Zona (200): Places a portal directly through a wall. This cannot be shot through
Memofish (200): Grounds targets in an AOE and disables movement, basically pocket Namor Ult without the damage nuke.
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>>563629482
>Is everyone retarded today?
This was an actual post last thread
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Is Black Cat associated with the Thieves Guild in the comics?
I've never heard of such a thing
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>>563629576
is she invincible while shopping?cause if not we might get some funny shenanigans
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>>563627958
Jesus dude
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Peni
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>>563629430
When you put it like that, there’s quite a fair bit of characters I’d like to see a rework for…
>>563630229
If it is a thing it’s not anything major
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>>563627183
Vanguard does keep getting hoed but if Rogue is a Vanguard and Carol isn't i might actually commit an act of international terrorism. it's too late now, she must be a Vanguard. same with She-Hulk.
>>563627503
excellent point about the shotgun. i completely agree.
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The new tenacity mechanic seems interesting but needing to endure 5.5 seconds of CC before you can even start building a resistance to CC seems pointless because you'll be dead before you get to 100% tenacity.
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Is he right, /mrg/bros? Gotta say, if Doc Strange was a DLC hero vs launch roster, he'd definitely be 100% cooler.
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The only thing you can really do in that situation is either call it out in chat or pick out who you think has the most impact in your team and wait for them to spawn so you can run with them and hope the others notice and do the same.
Otherwise, it's just one of the many downsides of playing with randoms in low elo.
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>Before the match even fucking started, I'm getting yelled at for picking Ultron
>I wanna win and rather not hear them complain so I pick Rocket and just hold right click
>Keep hearing praise that I'm doing a good job heal botting
Go fuck yourselves, genuinely. I already degraded myself to only healing
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>>563631095
literally 0 reason to add this mechanic. its the most dumbass way to approach the issue. making faster respawns would've been a better solution that adding in MMORPG stun resistance mechanics. the worst part is that they for sure committed like 1,000 manhours worth of meetings, coding, testing to implement it, and won't ever remove it because it'd be embarrassing
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Black Cat's fucked around with magic before tho
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>>563631130
What is it with autists getting mad that launch characters are less complex than new ones?
Like no shit the characters that had to be hastily finished in the lead up to release are less in depth than the ones that can comfortably get way more development hours now that the game is a success.
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>>563631372
Black Cat is also not the sorcerer fucking supreme and spends most of her time in comics getting bent over and used as a cum receptacle
Why the fuck does she have more spells than the actual magic casters
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Oh no, black cat can spend 100 couns so she can go invisible for 2sec.
Oh the horror, she will truly be OP, she will morph the meta, she is so unstoppable and strong.
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>>563631314
this shit actually makes me glad they haven't added Captain Marvel yet so that she can get a super deluxe bullshit kit later this year.
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TRVKE
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the women in this game no longer excite me sexually the way they did when the game launched
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>>563631095
They added this because of the 1v6 game mode.
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Am I the only one who never felt like CC has been a major problem to begin with
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Hey guys, it's my dream to work at Netease as a gameplay designer.
I've worked up to two character concepts for a new Vanguard and Duelist.
What do you guys think?
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I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
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Adorable
>>563631372
Yes, and there’s a massive difference between that and it being a massive part of her moveset
She certainly shouldn’t be more versatile than strange or witch
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>>563632128
I still love Thing regardless.
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>>563632083
Friend I enjoy your rocket posting but what CC are you being subjected to
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>>563632485
Hey, I play Strange too. Other than Emma grabs and Wanda stuns I barely notice anything that isnt an ult.
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Usually I get ok teams, or teams where the weak link is healers. People who stay 100 m away from tanks, or that ult the moment they get it even when it's not needed, or that conversely HOLD ULT until their team start dying. But now I'm seeing more terrible dps, diver who die 5 times in a row turning half the match into a 5v6, or that won't push up even when healers ult, or that will panic ult despite half their team being dead and just completely wasting it. I don't know what's going on
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fumble movekit wise? I can name a few others
Hulk is an ultra mechanical heavy hero requiring good aim to make use of lockdowns that sucks fucking dick at brawling because he gets giga raped by someone like emma and dealing damage with his fists and is insanely squishy ubder fire in comparison to someone like magneto or strange and his ult is also possibly the biggest joke in the game especially the Q move
Black Widow has been straight dogshit being the worst hero in the game for every single season in a row since launch with only desperate wanna be different autists saying otherwise. She has 0 utility outside of a kick combo and is purely a mediocre sniper that gets outclassed by hela in basically everyway. This is also the super spy character with 100,000 gadgets for every scenario.
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>>563631558
It's fucking hilarious when you compare her kit and Wanda's kit.
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>losing on launch of their new season
KEEEEK
Felicia gonna obliterate them on Friday
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
Hello?
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>>563632930
Are we seriously going to pretend that rivals is better than overwatch
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
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>>563632492
It was very fun until about season 10 or 11. Probably one of the best shooters ever made during that time
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>Loba
this too
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Now when is Rivals gonna get a girl as sexy as the ones in Marathon
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>>563633495
Marathon genuinely has the ugliest characters in gaming
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>>563626646
>Based on this
They picked the most boring launch outfit
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Fuck Apex
All my niggas love Titanfall 2 and hate Apex
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>>563633729
Not my fault yall are gay and retarded
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>>563633452
>season 2 predator
very nice outside of being a consolefaggot
still more impressive than OAA though
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>>563633176
oh we are not pretending, my good sir
We know this as a FACT
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Black Cat mogged Overmid in a couple hours. How are they coping?
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise
>Like half the D tier roster ala Widow and SG
>Blade taking like multiple seasons to actually be decent
>Johnny having a weird projectile flame shotgun instead of a normal flame thrower
>Rogue
>Black Cat showing what could've been if Wanda and Strange had a different assortment of spells
>Rocket with his 2 buttons
Man it's just, I'm kind of glad Spiral hasn't been added yet.
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wtf are these white borders?
Hard CC or grounded indicator?
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List me 3 things that makes rivals better than overwatch.
You can't because you don't even play this game and probably just groom kids on the shitty streets map.
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>consoleGOD
I can tell your penis is ten inches long and you have lots of sex.
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I agree with this though. TF2 was such kino and I miss it every day.
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>testing every Rogue drain in the range
>daredevil makes you blind and gives you his ping
>blade gives you the red for, but you dont get the attack speed so it's just healing reduction
Its wild that there's two people that just straight up nerf you, aside from the +20% damage buff I guess. It is fitting that it's on the blind guy and the vampire though.
>wolverine doesn't just give you the defence buff ability, and the base damage buff, but you also get his passive
It's a baby version of it but it'll still save your life from one hit.
>groot gives you iron wall but it doesnt do anything its just a wall
Makes sense since the wall only heals trees, you get the wall but you dont get to be groot. Still sucks though.
Clear winners are Magneto, Adam, Emma/Thing, and Thor.
>magneto gives self bubble
Full immunity and then 700 max hp when it wears off is nice
>adam gives fucking soul bond with passive regen
>Emma thing
Together because they give the same thing, both get huge damage resistance buff and also 700 max hp, become unkillable.
>Thor
You get the whole reason to play Thor and get to dash without spoiling it, and a little range ok Rogue goes a long ass way.
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>563634904
Artstyle
No Venture or Hazard
3rd person
Infinitely Better Cosmetics
No autistic rank grind for special cosmetic points
Meaningful individual character progression
No role queue
Not owned by breast milk stealers
No instakill hitscan sniper
Free PvE content
No dev time being wasted on a fake MOBA mode nobody plays
No perma stealth funkiller DPS
No hook tank
No edaters outside their containment modes
Deadpool
White Fox
Thor
Thor again
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>>563635510
many are saying this
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>>563635593
well? Let's see it!
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>>563632083
>rocket faggot plays a character that requires absolutely zero commitment and has the nerve to say that CC isn’t a problem
I’m glad they’re never going to buff this worthless character when the people that play it are brain dead retards like this faggot
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>>563633248
Gun is my favorite marvel character.
>>563635510
We know Logan.
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Zhiyong, why are you ignoring me I showed my fat coochie. I need buffs
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>>563635256
You can also get Loki's pilon ability from his clones, it doesn't have to be the real Loki. It makes it pretty reliable and since it's such a big heal it should also be a top tier choice.
Also you get your shift dash cooldown refreshed if someone would only give you the passive, so its never nothing.
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It's like when a girl sleeps with her professor and he still fails her
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>>563636324
I try to lose to drop his winrate but I keep facing against you. It won't go down.
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>>563633016
It's to match Spiderman so you get the most toxic useless duos for your rank up matches.
>>563634072
Swap to healer and do their job, tell them to swap to tanks cause they are better as meat shields.
>>563634815
Grounded, EA streamer says the fish is Namor Ult without the nuke.
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Anyway fuck this stupid whore. Cuck Summers is next
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>>563636725
it’s definitely coming at some point it’s too obvious not to go for it
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Nah, I'm going to be honest, overwatch to this day has better designed looking heroes who are FAR more iconic than anything of Rivals.
Nothing to this day beats characters like Tracer or Reaper, all you have is generic capeshit #54531213213
No one gives a fuck about black cat, no one gives a fuck about elsa, or white fox.
Generic looking characters, soulless, and their appearance just isn't interesting or iconic.
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Everyone, forget about Black Cat's massive tracts of land or the middling patch notes for a second. It's almost ROSTERFAGGING TIME AGAIN.
The second half of the season means getting a much firmer hint on the next set of characters. Everyone's thinking Cyclops is a lock, with a lot of speculation that Devil Dinosaur (and subsequently Moon Girl) could be next, or maybe Mr.Sinister since the "person on the top of the building that shared Rogue's brainwaves" probably isn't Carol, but a clone.
All the speculation will be at an end once the final gallery card hits.
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And that’s a good thing
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>>563638336
>Generic looking characters, soulless, and their appearance just isn't interesting or iconic.
But enough about OW's last 6 heroes. Actually most of OW2's hero designs have failed to recapture the magic of OW1, they're basically all abysmal dogshitexcept for Kiriko sama.
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Are Off Support players doomed to get yelled for not enough heals or having someone go third support? What genuinely needs to be done to unfuck this problem? I'm tired of having some asshole go third support because I went Ultron or guy starts crying about heals BEFORE the match started.
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> Actually have a non shit tank
>Nerf them to the ground
Fuck you NetEase
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>>563638787
Only I correct her. Remember that.
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>>563630463
>but Scarlet Witch only knows like, two magic tricks.
Chaos control
Reality Erasure
Mystic Projection
Dark Seal
Telekinesis
Chthonian Burst
Sorcery Surge
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Wow! I cannot wait for next season! I'm sure the meta and bans will be different!
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>>563639509
It's pretty clear what their priorieties are.
>They don't give a shit about tanks, but also NEVER want them to run a meta like early Strange or Early Emma did
>They'll keep dropping DPS characters because that's who most people want to play
>They'll keep dive in check because it's hard to play against, leaning on poke and brawl style combat
>And they'll always cater to supports, keeping a few nice and overtuned since they whine the loudest, most often, and comprise 80% of the female playerbase who buy 50% of the skins, the other 50% being coomers buying coom skins
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>>563639121
You mean because you like the characters as characters or because of how botched they look? Every 3d rivals porn completely kills my boner because the models always look awful outside of the game and any good ones I come across always completely sand off and smooth out the characters until they look like overwatch porn
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>gut deadpool's one source of regular burst damage that makes him the only viable tank in this eternal sustainslop meta
They fucking hate tanks. How is deadpool getting gutted quicker than some supports? The same happened with Emma and Angela where they got gutted quickly too.
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>>563639001
My brother in Christ, if you are an off-support then you're automatically the third support. It doesn't matter if you're gods gift to gaming, your power budget is meant for killing shit more than healing.
Pull your weight as the psuedo DPS instead of trying to healbot with a mediocre kit.
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Honestly why are Peni and Mag the only tanks allowed to be good and get buffs? Peni constantly getting buffs is insane too because her skill floor is still too high for the average pleb that plays this game. Its like they know she's a waifu character that can move skins so they're trying hard to make her get value easily but the only time they ever succeeded with that was when the rocket teamup made her brain dead and removed the need for strategical and proactive play
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>>563641057
Hey imbecile, the point is that all she has for mobility is the super jump, not that she excels at it. Just like the rest of the text is saying all she has is bombs for damage and a nut that roots for CC. The fact that you can't rub your two brain cells together and are making the assumption that they're calling her hyper mobile like spider man or some shit is an entirely different problem that you need to get fixed.
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>Off Support
"Off-" is code for shit.
At best, niche.
So everytime you claim to be an off- player, just know you are forcing a shit pick, or at best a niche pick.
Your job as Ultron isn't to sit here and question the status quo or try and prove people wrong. Your job is to do whatever the hell Ultron excels at every single match. It doesn't matter that someone picked third support because that changes nothing about your pick and how you play. So let it be. You cannot sit there and complain someone went 3rd support when you force an "off-support", by your own admission, into every team comp.
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When I was a boy I would drop chopper gunner and attack dogs every match. ANY killstreak I desired. I knew the locations and respawn timer of every power weapon on Valhalla. I took every sniper 1v1 in my legit Recon armor. But now I see I am no longer the flex who carries his team. I am the shitter who goes 2-11 sitting on main. gg no heals
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I don't play comp, just 18 vs 18 and Doom Match so the news about the PVE and Avengers 1 v 6 modes being released so soon is what interested me the most.
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What's everyone's gameplan for Black Cat this Friday? From what I roughly eyeball, her damage and sustain is dogshit for a diver. Even if you spend $$ to do claw whips and teleport strikes, that just puts you on par with Daredevil/BP with no profit. If it turns out she really is more powerful, then she'll be quickly nerfed due to her other utility value of obseleting the other divers.
So that basically leaves how to spend the $$$ that you farmed from either being a pussy grappling tanks or from each of your failed dives. These 6 items are;
1) Tablet Gacha (100): Random amount of $ gained, probably a meme trap. Do the Hakari dance if you hit Jackpot though.
2) Faltine Wallhack (100): Good to throw out constantly but effectiveness depends on the team and doesn't help with your dive to get $$$.
3) Helm of Hades (200): 2s invisibility means this item is overpriced joke and only used in an emergency.
4) Portal ring (200): Situational, might justify just farming money safely to help your team move constantly past chokepoints.
5) Anti-CC crystal (200): Luxury insurance for your medicore dives.
6) Namor Fish (200): Seems to be the most OP but this makes you a filthy grounding CC fish spammer for your team.
Unless a kill combo is found, I don't think Black Cat is killing shit and would be relegated to annoying utility spam on your team.
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Not him and people can trip sup if they want to but I continue to feel the community has deeply mischaracterized Ultron as a DPS support. He only has one damaging ability, his primary fire, and his ult has the highest healing per second of anything in the game. He is really not that good at shitting out damage, and has a shockingly close damage falloff on his shots.
He is, in my opinion, a strong utility support and a brawl enabler. Because the drones heal everyone around them, if the team is grouped up he can easily get the top healing badge and that's without counting the shield generation, which also goes out to everyone near the drones. He is also extremely survivable except vs a small set of heroes and is difficult to dive.
His ult is also best used during a brawl, and will pretty much guarantee you win the fight, but outside of that it can be used to force a pick, save the team OR hard-counter several ults.
He is absolutely terrible in certain comps but potentially best in slot for others, even in 2sup. The world just hasn't noticed yet because everyone's stuck on thier expectations from his launch. And because this game has trained everyone to expect healers to make you immortal
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I have seen Ultron get comparable healing to double support but all that advantage is shutdown by a single MK or SG spamming into your team clustered together. He has drone utility and buffs but that's like a single decision every 12s.
90% of the time what differentiates a good Ultron from a bad one is positioning and whether he is actually sniping the enemy healers with his laser.
He is absolutely not double support material except if your team is hard diffing the enemy.
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>no nerfs to all the overpowered dps and support heroes
>only one they gave a slap on the wrist nerf to was elsa
Not even a joke at this point, someone needs to kill Zhiyong.
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these chinks are beginning to lose me. why does cap have this useless teamup? where is the spidey teamup?
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>Punisher on the enemy team
>two teammates select magneto and show their lord+ icons
>both go dps dive
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>Avengers 1 v 6
This one I'm both intrigued and wary of. You know Loki is either going to be weak as shit or overpowered as fuck.
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So is Doreen a boss or an ally you can summon?
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>useless teamup
You mean a teamup that should be in the base kit, like Fantastic's and the new Cap one.
The fact that the hero most known for his shield can't properly shield allies is fucking retarded.
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>threw that shit together in like two weeks
They said it took them almost half a year of crunching to make zombies, anon. The reason it didn't take as long this time is because they can just recycle zombies with some different things. Zombies was also the worst zombie mode ever made.
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Yeah unfortunately while I love Ultron in theory as a cool character support, he necessarily requires your team all grouping around the drone targets which in this game can make them poke/aoe victims and Ultron's little bit of overshielding he can apply doesn't negate that shit.
He can be really good anti-dive though. Sometimes I ask a support who's struggling with dive to switch Ultron and they refuse because they're retarded, but if I'm filling support (which is rare since basically you will never see people autolocking two tanks which is my normal) I will often swap to Ultron if there are divers. Having one drone on your other healer and one on your anchor tank usually negates Spidey or BP whose diving is based on doing quick 250dmg burst combos and if a bit of healing gets thrown in the middle of that they're fucked. More sustained divers like Magik or a tank also can have a harder time because you can shoot them and they don't do as high immediate damage.
I think what Ultron really needs to be viable though is just having his Iron Man team up as an alt fire and balance it accordingly from there. It's kind of insane to me they haven't just done this yet. I understand they're probably wary of how strong he'd become in 3supp doing this, but I think it could be balanced around.
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>>563647363
Nah that's horseshit I'd love if I could raise my shield and lead the charge with Cap, but that's more Strange's job.
It's bizarre they made Cap a diver instead of a shield tank, given he is the comic character and character in fiction in general whose defining signature trait is his shield. He has the second worst shield in the game.
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Why the fuck are comp matches so fucking bad at night? Its insane how absurdly shit some of these people are in Celestial during this hour but how fuckin SWEATY the enemy teams are. I had a teammate just now die 18 times.
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>>563643872
I'm all for new modes. To be honest there are a couple that should just be made permanent like that battle chess one. The only problem that one had was how long each match lasted which can be an easy fix.
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>no tank in the game is allowed to be strong
>the closest are shield cucks like mag, hulk and strange that are just there to prevent their privileged poke and support players from dying if they fuck up
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Nigga, when tankpool ult you could have whole team shot at him and he still wouldn't die.
Nerfing ult is correct but i dont know about nerfing E. He seems to deal shit damage without it, will be harder to make impact.
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Yeah the devs priorities and vision of the game is simply fucked. That's all there is to it. Seems like zhiyong wants to speedrun this game into the ground.
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>get
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I am awaiting DOOM. I can't imagine him not being released for Doomsday.
>Primary fire: Finger beam. Shoots single shot beam.
>Melee: Backhand with slight pushback.
>Flight ability: Doom can engage a flight mode while retaining all abilities in aerial form.
>Flight melee: Foot dive.
>Focusing shield: Doom creates a broad magical shield. All enemy attacks passing through the bubble lose damage and take random angles, all friendly attacks passing through the shield gain damage and remain on their aimed path.
>Magical displacement: Doom teleports an opponent backwards 10m on the ground (cannot put off ledges).
>Insect drone swarm: Creates an area of damaging bee insect drones around him. Drone swarm persists on a health bar until destroyed.
>ULT: Doombots. Doom spawns two NPC Doombots to join the battle that cannot be healed. They have Hard level AI and all Doom abilities.
They gotta make this MF kitted out like Rogue and Deadpool. I'm actually glad they didn't make him a S0 character since then he'd have like one or two abilities.
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If he doesn’t yell https://youtu.be/IW1gWV0gixI?si=TFmmGFRM8BVTxphI I will not be playing him
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>Hulk attempting to KO anyone
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Yeah I think I'm pretty much done queueing Competitive after 1 AM
Its a nightmare, I maybe played with like 3 or 4 people who were genuinely good teammates and the rest dont give a rats ass about you or the team composition. This shit is a cesspool at this time, i think i might try to play at 6 am again
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>Focusing shield: Doom creates a broad magical shield. All enemy attacks passing through the bubble lose damage and take random angles, all friendly attacks passing through the shield gain damage and remain on their aimed path.
That's actually a cool ability and creative shielding concept. They'll never do this.
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Nah he'll be a fourth role and have his own section of the CSS. He does DMG, tanking, and healing all in one character sort of like Peni but they'll make him not suck ass.
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The comp scene and balance mess is why I avoid that mode now. I mentioned it before before 18 v 18 is what I almost exclusively play now. So if they are committed to what they said in an interview about moving away from the old formula and doing more stuff like adding PVE, more maps for 18 v 18 and all that jazz, you know what, go for it. For me I don't get the headaches I get playing comp in those modes, instead I just chill.
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Nice Exile, but playing Hulk with randos is asking for punishment. He's the most team enabled or disabled tank. In conjunction, he's also one of the best team enabling tanks, but your team needs to be able to actually make use of that enabling. Solo climbing on Hulk is just making your job way harder especially when you're gonna be solo tanking a lot too with no anchor tank.
Meanwhile, Deadpool just does everything you need. It sucks. Hulk is the most fun tank when you're rolling but he is the biggest CC victim in a game where 100% of the enemy team will have some form of CC and your supps are gonna be playing DPS instead of healing you. You're limited a lot by having no spacemaking tools on your kit but for just jumping in and punching. A lot of the tank roster has this problem and it's insane when the DPS and Supps have more knockback abilities than the tanks.
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>>563648269
thanks, anon. i don't rank myself above many disliked posters, but i do feel like i'm making higher quality posts than AI slop uploaded. even if only marginally.
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AI slop uploaders*
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>Nah, I'm going to be honest, overwatch to this day has better designed looking heroes who are FAR more iconic than anything of Rivals.
>Nothing to this day beats characters like Tracer or Reaper, all you have is generic capeshit
awful take. Marvel superheroes have been iconic for over half a century for a reason.
>No one gives a fuck about black cat, no one gives a fuck about elsa, or white fox.
Generic looking characters, soulless, and their appearance just isn't interesting or iconic.
this is true, though. lol
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It's the screenshot of her URBAN PREDATOR costume
https://youtu.be/0rbalW0qYaQ
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now that the dust has settled, is jean getting a swimsuit summer skin like you niggas promised a year ago?
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western comics can be so irritating. i downloaded a bunch of Captain Marvel comics from anon's suggested reading list, but every 5-10 issues they want me to read some tangential comic to continue following the story. and if i don't, shit will have changed and characters will have died and i won't know what or why. i'm up to the 2016 Civil War 2 stuff and in one issue Carol is kissing Rhodey and then in the next he's fucking died off-screen in some tangential comic that wasn't included with my pack. i'm pushing through it, but it is irritating.
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>spend entire game placing shitty groot walls that fuck over my team 9/10 times
>team flames healers anyway
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>>563654397
As an Angela main the only way I can see these nerfs doing anything is if each tick of Sue's vortex count as one tick of cc so then it means if you dive and she throws it out it adds to the counter making it less of a complete shut down for dive and it lets flies have a chance to escape. If the change is as shit as it seems hopefully everyone makes enough of a fuss that the devs buckle and panic patch to make it more effective since they've cracked under pressure before
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>>563655548
Very very unlikely they will blow their load with both Thanos and Doom back to back as those 2 are their last big player magnets.
Far more likely to be someone like Gamora, Drax, Vision, Nebula or something like that that has some connection to Endgame and Thanos. Thanos will if anything be the "Dracula" of that event or season, as in unplayable but a major bad guy.
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>>563657038
after the heroes they led the year off with, it might be time to blow their load to save the game by October. lol
joking aside, i hear you, though. i still think we'll definitely get one of them. i think it'd be insane to do an Infinity War AND an Endgame event without adding Thanos as a playable character. if he's just a raid boss i think fans will riot.
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its hard to say because the game has so much healing that all the melee heroes either settle into "doesnt kill anything but is annoying" type like mr fantastic or iron fist, and the "instakills supports" type like black panther or maybe daredevil. it only takes a small difference in damage to make or break a melee character. its why competent game devs dont add them
i think shes going to be like a daredevil with a bit more poke and less damage, which is to say, kinda useless unless your team is competent
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>>563659060
you kinda answered your own question. some players might move on to her as a better, more versatile alternative – but not everybody wants to use their brain that much while playing. and naturally some players will stick with T'Challa because he's just one of their favorite superheroes.
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>its why competent game devs dont add them
Melee isn't a problem if you're competent, you mean. But netease has absolutely no clue how to design and balance a game like this, as they keep showing every single patch.
Look no further than their anti-CC solution that is comically overdesigned while not even solving the actual issues or complaints
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Wandas a vacuum because she sucks!
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i don't think there's ever been a single shooter that has successfully added melee-focused archetypes that haven't been gay as fuck to play against. dirty bomb and overwatch tried it too. even peak valve with robin walker on the tf2 team couldn't hack it. it's the same in every game, too, the devs add them and then quickly realize they ruin the game so they nerf them to dirt or remove them.
marvel rivals is honestly probably the closest to being successful at it and that's because the hero balance is already so wack so it's easier to accept it and play around it (you can pick a hard counter and force them to swap)
>Look no further than their anti-CC solution that is comically overdesigned while not even solving the actual issues or complaints
agreed desu, that has been the biggest signal that they are way in over their heads. the fact that the game is as functional as it is has just been happy mistake. the anti-CC solution reeks of this weird design by committee corpo shit where they don't understand their own product and are trying to "fix" it by attacking the symptom directly instead of looking at the problem that caused it. it's so overengineered and pointless that i'm sure no one will really notice it except in patch notes when zhiyong adjusts it as like a "this time for sure bro" thing.
idk about chinese work culture but i doubt zhiyong will get ousted anytime soon
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>But netease has absolutely no clue how to design and balance a game like this, as they keep showing every single patch.
Look no further than their anti-CC solution that is comically overdesigned while not even solving the actual issues or complaints
Sounds familiar
"But netease has absolutely no clue how to design and balance a game like this, as they keep showing every single patch." sounds an awful lot like The First Descendant/TFD and Magnum Studio's troubles with balance and game design that have haunted them from July 2024 to this day.
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>killing both hero shooters at the same damn time
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>supposed avengers timeline incoming
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>full dive enemy comp
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It's so extremely fucking strange that the way they decided to implement a thief was
>generic melee diver
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>hitting people gets you money
>spend money in this magical shop to buy magic artifacts that you can use to do strange random shit
She's more like some strange magical merchant that has nothing sneaky about them at all and even teleports around to attack an entire team after throwing fucking cards at them.
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We should have checked them on this a long time ago tbf..so many heroes are just random shit that has nothing to do with their abilities ..you know whats funny deadpool the most randomizer in marvel actually uses his swords and guns more than doing 4th wall breaking things hahahaha
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lmao you got outplayed. It's not the character, you got looney-tunes jokes through that hole in the wall. And you never tried to restrict her mobility? As soon as she went into that health pay room I woulda had a wall down to lock her in.
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WAITER!
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MORE PSYLOCKE LEGENDARYS!
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>still no widow/torch legendary (ultron too but he got a cool looking skin recently so mitigated for now)
>no hulk skin at all
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There's usually one time limited skin per bundle
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Just stand in invis bubble for 5 seconds and you're immune
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>Gamer Girl SG
I kinda wanted this for an ESU Doreen skin with her fat ass in form fitting jeans desu.
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Pic unrelated
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Why don't people like playing Rocket. I love the dive shredder
>Venom dives onto me: Have fun pressing the emergency health button
>Cap dives me: have fun running away with your shield up
>Hulk dives me: hope yo didn't use your jump to initiate buddy, gonna need it again real soon
>squishy dives me: die faggot
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Ehh, I see it as a double edged sword.
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I see no reason for her to be a boss so she’s probably playable
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It’s definitely going to be 2099 I feel though.
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How the fuck do I dive? How do I take advantage of angles, and all that shit? Whenever I step out of the main lane I get zero heals and die. I'm new to this whole shit and it's honestly been hard to learn because whenever I try to do anything outside the box I'm just instantly punished and my team hates me for it.
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Was that not obvious?
I've bought both Magik's Millenium Might and Disco Pass, don't play her. But I plan on it. Eventually.
Bought Scarlet Witch's Nightmare skin, barely play her. Only just started to mess with her recently because it's nice to turn your brain off and suck people to death every once and a while.
Bought Rogue's Savage Land skin. Don't play her. Plan to learn her. Maybe.
Bought basically every Hela skin. Try to play her, usually do poorly, so not often.
Bought every Psylocke skin, occasionally play her.
I try to support the coom when possible.
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When you take off angles either you take them with the understanding that you need to be around a health pack or you’re going to get a kill.
Good supports will look at you or have you around the LoS to heal you but bad ones will not so you can’t expect heals from them.
When you dive you need to have your out planned before you dive because chances are really high you will get zero heals even on the return. Diving needs to be timed when the front is getting hit so you can’t just dive the back line when nothing is happening in the front because everyone will just turn around and kill you.
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Another Psylocke legendary. What is this? Like the 3rd in a row?
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Why would they when the fanbase has shown they have low standards multiple times?
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My initial reaction was a sigh. ANOTHER Psylock skin? Also, Tennis? I guess that makes sense...she's swinging at an object and has to be agile to move around the court.
BAH! This game keeps putting out skins that I don't want to buy. I've only started thinking about buying them because I'm bored of not spending my blue coins. I did buy the Jeff Dance emote though.
...NO. I refuse to give in! I'm not spending my blue coins unless I really, REALLY like the skins! Like xmas SG or Duck Jeff or First Step IW.
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It's hard at first if you've never done it. You'll basically feel like total trash for a long while. Here are some steps you can take to improve.
1. Learn your dive hero's kit and practice in practice range. You should be able to pull off your kill combo with efficiency and accuracy every time.
2. Learn the maps. Every map has different paths, health packs and hiding spots. Learn how long it takes for you to get to them, how long to run away from them, how best to fight around them. DO NOT expect heals.
3. You gotta learn everyone's counter to you. This will require you to either learn the kits of every other hero you may be diving and/or just playing against players who use these heroes in match.
4. Waiting. As a dive, sometimes it's just about waiting for a good opportunity to leave your hiding spot and going in. Figuring this out kind of requires you to learn the previous three points.
5. Lastly, I would say you're job isn't to put up big stats. Yes, it's good if you do, but you're job is to make sure the enemy backline can't do its job and is forced to pay attention to you. So, it's a bit of cat and mouse. You're not a killer all the time. Most of the time, you're a disruptor.
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I'm a pantsu enjoyer, but it's understandable with a tennis skirt that short and flowy
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This is actually kinda good yeah
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This is just bad though
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>>563669830
How is she boring to play and what makes a character fun to play?
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Rocket has a shallow move set.
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Pre-Daredevil characters will always have sort of shallow kits with few exceptions. Even if someday they update Rocket to give him a new gadget or something it's unlikely he's ever going to get a kit with as much utility as these recent characters. Which sucks as coming up with the right tool for the moment is one of his main things as a character, he's pretty much one of those characters who absolutely should have a bajillion things in his kit.
Compare that to Gambit, who is mostly a one trick pony in the comics and other media. Sure, he's got the locked potential of an omega level mutant and has super niche uses for his powers that come up very occasionally, but for the most part he just blows up stuff. Yet his kit is super overdesigned in the game with a bunch of crazy shit for no reason.
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>Absolute Batman is in the new Lego Batman game.
>Marvel Rivals still doesn't have an Ultimate Spider-Man skin.
But hey, at least Spider-Man fans get uhh.... Joe Spicsada's shitty Iron Spider suit, Disco Spider-Man from the shitty 2020 comics, and uhh... Scarlet Spider's shitty Chasm suit.Fuck you, Netease.
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>>563671718
Get it?
The joke is pedophilia
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So. There giving Elsa a maid skin. Will SHE be allowed to shake her ass for the camera, Netease? WILL SHE? See, I'm a big proponent of equal rights. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SEXIST, ARE WE NETEASE?! Surely, not only the men will clap cheeks on screen, RIGHT?!
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>8. Season 2 Battle Pass: Flower Of Krakoa returns in Season 7.5 Available from: April 17th, 2026. 09:00:00 to April 30th, 2026, 09:00:00 (UTC)
>8. Season 2 Battle Pass: Flower Of Krakoa returns in Season 7.5 Available from: April 17th, 2026. 09:00:00 to April 30th, 2026, 09:00:00 (UTC)
>8. Season 2 Battle Pass: Flower Of Krakoa returns in Season 7.5 Available from: April 17th, 2026. 09:00:00 to April 30th, 2026, 09:00:00 (UTC)
>8. Season 2 Battle Pass: Flower Of Krakoa returns in Season 7.5 Available from: April 17th, 2026. 09:00:00 to April 30th, 2026, 09:00:00 (UTC)
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Honestly I mostly just want that for the Cap hellfire gala skin, not a super exciting bp
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>Psylocke, Magik, Invisible Woman, Jeff, and Luna have gone several seasons getting multiple legendaries in a row.
>Meanwhile Hulk hasn't even gotten a single rare or epic skin in half a year.
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It's been broken for days.
>>563677612
I can read, you just dont understand. He called YOU a pedophile, not the drawing. Saying its a drawing doesn't change anything unless you're the one who's a drawing.
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>maid Elsa
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I'm not saying he needs a skin specifically based on the movie just that you think he would have one considering he is in the movie and a professor at esu. He could've gotten a lab coat skin like Mr. Fantastic. Would've been a perfect time to add a more classic design.
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We don't have skin sells so I use this. His least seen skin has 30K appearances in matches. Yes I know those likely aren't all unique players but considering how few skins he has I think it is pretty good.
https://rivalsmeta.com/skins
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Yes this site has been acting strange since last night. Captcha is fucked and shit. Takes forever to post and sometimes it says the Captcha expired but the post went through.
>>563678425
Tank is for people who understand what the game is about: space. KOs, Final Hits, Deaths, etc. are all nothing but a means to an end.
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>Watching the preview stream
>Both teams not even running Black Cat and or one Black Cat and instead more triple support shenanigans with Buffed Luna and Ultron
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I FUCKING TOLD YOU SHE WAS D TIER
NEVER EVER FUCKING DISAGREE WITH ME AGAIN YOU STUPID BITCH
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I think I’m too old to care about roles in vidya anymore. I used to play utility focused stuff, mainly healers and sometimes tanks. But the average online player is so retarded I can’t anymore. I quit support in Overwatch and the game got so much better for me. Doing the same here too, and it’s just straight up less trouble. Why did I ever think supporting was a good idea.
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C2 was literally top 0.50% of players when i got there like 5 days ago.
this shit game's competitive mode is fucking dead desu
i blame the dogshit balance patches and the rigged matchmaking that punishes you for logging off on wins. And the retardedly shit community that will defend all the bad decisions, even those retards on reddit think that gambit isnt meta lol and he has the highest banrate in the game.
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>missed the season 1 battlepass rerun
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>low quality texture
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>cc change killed hulk juggles
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>literal buck broken skin
Can’t make this shit up kek
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I hate the ability wheel mechanic so much. There are so many characters that could have had something like that. It just feels wrong to limit it to one character and the least magical/tech savvy one at that. I think they were just looking for an excuse to have her ‘spend’ what she’s stolen because without it she’s just another stock standard melee flanker, with nothing to make her special. I will say that at least the portal, wall hacks, invisibility, and gamble mechanic make sense thematically for a thief to have, but the CC immunity and grounding ability don’t.
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I hate the ability wheel mechanic so much. There are so many characters that could have had something like that. It just feels wrong to limit it to one character and the least magical/tech savvy one at that. I think they were just looking for an excuse to have her ‘spend’ what she’s stolen because without it she’s just another stock standard melee flanker,
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>enact CC "nerf" for tanks
>it winds up just killing the tanks the one class that's actually supposed to have it
Rogue is fucked too. Why do they do this shit what is wrong with them?
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>>563685716
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>Black Cat only gets one decent convo line with Peter, a "Kudos" line, and a death acknowledgement line
>Gets more lines with fucking Daredevil, Angela, and White Fox
Not gonna lie, lowkey pissed.
Fucking White Fox and Luna Snow, two Z-listers got 5 fucking pre-match dialogues with each other alone. A goddamn mini episode.
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Black Cat is gonna be such a funny duelist to watch dueltards to fumble on.
>What do you mean she's a duelist that can't duel?
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As long as he exists, his other tanks are not allow to have fun. The devs only want you to play Mag as any tank that either is more fun than himwhich is all of themor better than him get put through a humiliation rituation after a moment of tasting the nectar.
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Its funny, you all were bitching about poke meta.
And then you all went and bitched for a changed tha completely buffed poke to be back at the top of the meta.
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>>563690341
no one be lieves you retarded niggers.
you tards have tried to wrangle us into believing that the game is totally innocent but you cant evne log off on a win otherwise the matchmaking pushes engagement queues the next day.
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I'M NOT OKAY MY MAIN IS FUCKING DDDEEAADD
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How can they fix Torch? I think he should just shoot fireballs that proc burn and just get rid of the flame field shit let his dive bomb leave a flame pool or something to justify its long ass cooldown
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Retard, Rogue can't even perform her full combo now because of it.
This is going to fuck over tons of people.
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I'm okay, because no one ever wants to play a tank in QP anyways. So, my teams will have to just compensate for my nerfed ass.
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I noticed this too.
I still don't think she's gonna get a rework. Her state has been a vocal point of contention for over a year now and they don't even bother to meme about it like they did with Luna
>Erm, guess she's not beating the hecking allegations!
The devs are VERY aware of what players want, but Zhiyong has already stated the balance team has a vision for the game they're not gonna compromise for. And I guess that vision means having the obligatory sniper character, but making sure she's so trash she can't run lobbies.
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>>563691634
I'm just gonna spam Phoenix and Namor and show Rival players the true meaning of pain.
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>>563689104
You didn’t have to specify both one includes the other
>>563690174
Truly made for Dracula
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>>563693343
There are videos already proving you wrong, you fucking dipshit.
Call yourself a dumb bitch.
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>all of these shitposters waiting in the wings for the site to stop crashing so they can shitpost
>>563693330
agreed, reworks are a pipe dream at this point in time especially when we know they’re fearful of changing up the meta too much
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>>563693330
You're gonna look so dumb when Black Widow gets reworked into something not retarded
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the cc changes werent even neccessary
they just had to fucking nerf cc on all the top tier characters
phoenix, invis, bucky, hela slightly
it was that simple. but for some reason they want to burn the fucking game to the ground before they take the L and finally start cracking down on specific characters.
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>>563678686
>Tank is for people who understand what the game is about: space. KOs, Final Hits, Deaths, etc. are all nothing but a means to an end.
lol get one shotted lil nigga
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>>563694010
>steps into her nest
まあ, haha, how horrible..
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>>563694531
Good CC resistance would be something like:
>You were just hit with CC, the next CC effects will have successive -30% duration and strength.
Rather than:
>You were just hit with CC, so a timer starts counting and if you are hit again 666 times you are cleared and it restarts but NOT if you are getting ass penetrated by Emma or Hulk, BUT if the combined effects amount to this amount of time, no CCs work at all
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>>563694994
They just need to make it so different characters have different CC resistance values. I've been saying this for ages. If each character can have a different ult charge value, why the fuck not this? It was just so obvious that a broad rule on this applying equally to everyone would be retarded.
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Call me crazy, but sometimes I think live service games do things they know are stupid. They have to because their audience keeps bitching about it, so they have to show their audiences why it's not a great idea. That builds consensus for how to improve/fix the idea that gives permission for the developers to push in this or that direction.
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>Go into QP to get better as Ultron
>Divers out the fucking ass that I can't even stay alive long enough to do shit
>Have enough of this dogshit and go Thing
>Win
How the fuck do I learn these characters when I have a Spiderman, Magik, Venom, etc all jumping my fucking ass?
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>>563694558
and thats why teh games shit bro
because they dont want to accept the reality of how things really are
they keep ignoring the competitive scene but at the same time they're trying to push an esports scene
does that make sense to you? it doesnt. even the reddit for this game is completely fucking shit because they'll downvote anyone who says anything factual. There are literal retards on twitter telling everyone that gambit isnt meta anymore, i dont know what fucking game they're playing but gambit hasn't been meta because he ceases to exist in this game.
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>>563694531
Blanket CC resistance is a retarded idea.
Tanks are supposed to be the ones with CC/spacemaking abilities and conversely have resistance to it. They created a problem by ASSLOADING CC into DPS and Supports as well so that 6/6 characters on the enemy team are shitting CC out at the frontliners.
If they weren't retarded they would have made this CC change only apply to tanks. Tanks having CC resistance is a natural property of the role to take CC for the team. Instead they just fucked the tank category even more.
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No it makes total sense that Black Widow can kick Hulk or Thor up in the air and away. It's totally intuitive that Hawkeye can swat away Venom like a fly.
Really though NetEase is just terrified of upsetting Supports because they want Supports to be able to just run around and 1v1 anyone and be DPS+Healing basically. Making CC resistance exclusive to tanks would make them and DPS shit their fucking pants if all of a sudden they had to rely on their tanks for protection. Instead we have poke DPS who have an invincible escape button AND a CC stun/knockback.
Meanwhile, Hulk doesn't have any knockback abilities outside of his ult.
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>>563696682
Bro where are the teams where you get competent players on your side? Motherfucker I cannot tell you how many times when I was the only one dealing with Venom, or dive in general. I just had a match playing double duty against Spidey and Venom with Wanda yet my dumbass Iron Fist keeps feeding and my goddamn CLOAK, yes I said CLOAK doesn't fucking heal the entire match
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met an awful dps player who doesn't have their profile hidden and he literally ate shit when they banned hela, punisher, and hulk
I asked him why he doesnt and he just said "shhhhhhhhh"
these brocoli haird retards are ruining gaming
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>half the tanks are now nerfed because of CC changes
>DPS season where people will try to push 1/3/2 and 1/2/3 all the time
>will have to solo tank mag or strange for a whole month
I don't think I'm gonna make it
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>>563697852
>don't play tank anymore
>no longer my problem
There is literally no reason for me not to lockin poke DPS every single game. I have Storm and Punisher on my Lordlist and I'm fine running 0/4/2 and just melting through the enemy team. What does a tank offer the team now? Blocking? Block this shotgun bitch.
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>>563697991
>Literally nobody is making you play Mag or Strange.
Not him, but the fucking balancing is forcing us to. Everyone else gets deleted
>Nobody else online says shit like this.
So what's it like under that rock?
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>>563694531
It should've been a role passive for Tanks or add a universal ''Status Fatigue'' effect basically prevents being hard chained CC in a short time from different sources not whatever the fuck they implemented where it feels borderline RNG also "Healing Sickness" would've been nice but maybe those are too MOBA leaning for them to do
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>>563698756
Move when ready
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>>563694034
>top tier characters
>bucky
Uh, lol?
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>>563698696
I always assumed they would come up with something like this. The actual problem is they set this up as a full on dive season and they probably wanted to bring dive duelists on board as well, even though they're generally way more mobile and have much smaller hitboxes so are generally harder to hit with targeted cc
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