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>News
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Newfriend here, I've gotta equip Seed and Cissia but I don't know what the hell to do with my wengines. Here's what I've got available:
Nekomata's sig at 1*
Gilded Blossom (that outpost wengine) at 5*
Anton's sig at 5*
Street Superstar at 1*
Starlight Engine (not Billy's one) at 3*
Gilded Blossom and Anton's seem good but I don't know which is best for which agent. I'm not really planning to roll the next few patches so I might go for one or both of their signature wengines but in that case which is more valuable to pull for first?
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I love Hoshimi Miyabi
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>Cissia fags!!!
>Orphie fag
>Fufu fags
>Bibi fags
>all of the Aria fags
>Harin fag
>Nekomiya fag
>BILLY KID fags
>Shungus fag
>Lucia ELOWEN fag
>Yenless Yen Zero fag
>Anby fag
>Alice fag
>Pulchra fag
>Banyue fag
>Yidhari fag
>Mibibi fag
>Corin fag
>Nicole fag
>Ellen fag
>Burnice fag
>Banging... boos chad
>yo phone linging fag
>Yixuan fag
>Yuzuha fag
>Nangong fags
>Zhao fag
>Machine prections using AI fag
>Ramiel fag
>Piper fag
>Norma fags
>Sunna fag
>Yanagi fag
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>Zhu Yuan fag
>Sales fag
>Seed Jr. fag
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Help me /zzz/, what are my best team comps?
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Were your pulls blessed by her?
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>>563683498
Seed + Cissia + Nicole/Lucy/Zhao/Sunna
Zhao + Shunko + Sunna
Sunna + Nangong + Alice/Piper
S11 + Seed + Sunna/Lucy/Zhao/Nicole
S11 + Sunna + Cissia? Not sure on this one. You wouldn't get Cissia's second passive but I think you'd get one.
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>>563683390
>Marcato Desire
Which shop is that in? The daily performance shop in the logistics spot is where I got Gilded Blossom.
That reminds me though, I have enough of those gold w-engine tokens to buy one of the S-ranks from the collectibles exchange shop if Soldier 11's or kot's 2* are good
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Got my Cissia. *lost the 50/50*
Now she'll sit on the bench cause i have no one that works with her. But it's fine, it's probably what she prefers.
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>>563683625
Got Rina spooked so now she is M5, but i did get the Wengine in 60
Never rolling Seed, the snake will be front and center of my teams
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Oh her first passive is Stun or Electric not Attack or Stun, so scratch that last team.
>>563683897
huh I just checked and even though Marcato Desire is an event engine it's not in the Daily Performance shop for some reason. So the generic Starlight (not Billy) is your best option. But at that point you're down like 30% damage vs going for the sig.
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snecko bros we won bigly
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>>563683462
>SAnby M1W1, Trigger M0W1, no Seed
>still pull M0W1
I might be retarded but I do have Cissia so that's fine.
Gonna eventually pick up Qingyi from the exchange shop and play that because that looked funny. She should be pretty good for Harumasa too, and I finally got all his potentials. Skipped YSG and AoD for this entirely. Gonna pull Billy next because he should also be on my account.
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She's cute as fuck in her trust events.
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>>563684375
Hugo of 2.X
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Is the site still shitting the bed?
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can i post with an image yet?
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>>563684373
Thanks a lot anon. Might swipe for Seed's and just throw any new rolls I get at Cissia's, if she gets stuck with Anton's sig then so be it.
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It must be that time in india again...
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>>563683462
WORK IS KILLING ME
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>Don't have SEED
>Pulled Cissia anyway
She's actually really fun to use with Qingyi.
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>>563684698
At long last.
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>>563683897
Oh it took the post a long time to go through but if you have enough controllers to buy an S rank engine then S11 is probably the best. It'd also be a better option than the Starlight.
I'd still try for the Seed engine if you can spare the pulls though. It's one of the two really good near-universal Attack engines that will fit anyone so it's a useful asset to the account outside of the obvious benefits to Seed.
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Zhao or Lucy also work. They're both fairly universal support options and Sunna will fit basically every Attack team, and will work just fine for Support if you throw Nangong into a team with her.
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Shungod won
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How do you manage playing gacha while maining a job and a social life?
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>>563684859
Thanks a lot anon. Looks like Seed and S11 is the way to go
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>>563685170
>social life
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>>563684794
Stay strong orf anon
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>>563685170
i dont. i hate society and i hate working.
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>>563685170
I'm retired. Plus, ZZZ only takes like 5-10 minutes a day on average, and maybe an extra hour on weekends to deal with story content or the more time-consuming events. If you can't spare two hours a week for hobbies, I don't know what to tell you.
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stop appearing
you're M6 already
leave me alone
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>>563685170
>job
I play at work. I'm at work right now!
>social life
Never heard of it
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I love my wife Aria!!!
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wait I can post now?
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It's safe to assume now it's a good time to save polys for the inevitable collab
I hope it's going to be a good one
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>Roll for Snek sex (snex)
>Lose 50/50
>Do character trial
>Sub-dps quick-swapper specifically for buffing electro (SEED, whom I don't own)
Yeesh, maybe I dodged a bullet. I'll just wait for the Yanagi re-screening...
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I love my bnuuy wife
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is it fixed? can the fufucord come back already?
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I don't think it's fixed..
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Ariacord woke up
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>>563683462
wake me up when 4chins fix itself.
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Public sex with Aria.
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>Pull Cissia and hope to get 2 of Pulchra to M6 her
>Get 7 Pulchra's to getting Cissia
Jesus, A Big Litter of Pulchra's
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>Aria gets buffed after her banner
Fuck this game, why do they get everything
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>>563685865
You're nitpicking over semantics, anon. The point is that spending a grand total of an hour or two per week placing a game is not a significant time investment, nor does it prohibit you from doing other things.
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>>563686295
How does one join the fufucord?
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>>563687337
this
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I love my wife Aria!!!
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tonguing Nangong's butthole...
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>>563685735
imposter
>>563687612
real
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>>563683993
>Now she'll sit on the bench cause i have no one that works with her.
Qingyi is free in the shop if you have invitation points.
She is just as strong with Cissia as Seed is.
Ideally one would work towards having all these 4 agents, and they can be configured to their ideal opponents.
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>ashuo gives me the glowing triple red lucky divination
>get knotted three times in a row
o-oh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-65hw01vgw
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... Posting works!!!
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Yes!
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Cutehari Murphy
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>>Marcato Desire
>Which shop is that in?
Ignore that advice Anon, that engine is a burst engine, Seed is an onfield agent, she needs on field engine.
If you have the battlepass, you can actually give her the Rotor Canon which is the actual good Macato.
One of these days I'm going to analysis a good Seed playthrough and note down the actual Anomaly uptime on Macato so I can confront these lazy reviewers who keeps using false uptime data on this fraud engine.
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I will only m6 her if they add a potential unlock which undoes the beta nerfs they did to ruin obol squad
>undo the 3sec timer on vanguard
>undo the requirement that someone spends energy onfield for charge meter
>make punch considered an aftershock
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Rewind back to patch 1,1.
People who pulled Zhu Yuan losted big time.
People who pulled Jane lost the most because free agent.
People who pulled Qingyi sort of won, because she is actually OP with Cissia now. And it looks like the NEPS faction is here to stay, being revived from time to time.
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>>563682180
Cunning Hares outpost is now level 20
join up to SEGGS with Nicole
uid 511641 (NA) have /zzz/ in your signature!
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>>563688197
People who pulled Jane won bigly though. Jane Alice Yuzuha is still a top tier team. And Qingyi is also in the shop and she's the worst stunner in the game and her synergy with Cissia is a huge cope when Trigger exists lol.
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So how much crit rate should I see on my anby in stat menu?
>has stun in team
10%
>king of the summit EX on pulchra
15%
>shadow harmony
12%
So 63% is my crit cap, right? Or are there any other bonuses that I didnt account for
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>>563685735
imposter
>>563686143
real
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imposter
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That last post went through pretty well. ARE WE BACK
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>>563688197
>People who pulled Zhu Yuan losted big time.
Nah she was the sole Ether DPS until Vivian, she was hella useful in early Shiyu because of that. The meta may have evolved but she was a good investment at the time.
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>>563688081
>undo the 3sec timer on vanguard
Holy shit. I didn't know this was a thing.
>When switching to inactive, the buffs remain until the character goes off-field or 3s after the switch.
This means Seed actually sucks ass with Cissia, unless you magdump all of your EX + all of your Venom stacks on a swap.
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>And Qingyi is also in the shop and she's the worst stunner in the game
Anon, she is the only stunner in the game who can reach 274 impact>>563687684
Trigger is the actual cope here, since Cissia's Venom can work from off field.
The thing about Qingyi is her C6,C5,C3,C2,C1 are actually good, while Jane tops out at C2. So Qingyi is the biggest beneficiary of being in the shop.
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Yeah that's what you should be doing. That's what makes her a sub DPS. She can easily fit that in the 3 seconds with how fast she attacks and she builds energy so unbelievably fast that you shouldn't really need to stay on her to build it back up for long. And all that energy directly feeds Seed who turns them into bigass punches.
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>>563688197
Eh, Qingyi/Cissia really isn't that good at all. It does have great potential if they buff QIngyi however.
Zhu is still strong, she constantly get doomposted for no reason. She should be buffed for sure but she's still more than able to pull her weight.
Jane will become a godly physical support for Alice and Nekomata with her buff in 3.0. We all know this is going to happen, they will mostly embrace her synergy with mono phys anomaly, which will also buff her outside of those teams anyways. But why Nekomata? They have to buff this brick soon and this Jane buff sounds like the perfect opportunity to refine that meme assault playstyle they were trying to build initially.
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D-Did you bless my rolls? I decided to do a pity 10 roll on her after I came back home from work and she came home immediately as well. I guess I'm building a cissia even though I don't know what to do with her
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How long until new cunny is out, I don't care for the hag snake
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But are we ACTUALLY back
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Piper
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surely we're back for real this time and we won't go down again
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>>563690126
We can post again but they're taking like a minute to go through
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OMG CISSIA HI
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down again
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>>563689360
>Eh, Qingyi/Cissia really isn't that good at all.
You're litterally combining the fastest stunner in the game with someone who can instant dump her energy + resource stacks into said x2,57 stun window.
If you have Qingyi fully upgraded, Cissia receives
+32% dmg
+30% dmg from king of summit
-15% DEF ignore
>Zhu constantly get doomposted for no reason
Do you have a recent DA performance number with her?
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Taking down the Gong.
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>>563689389
Naturally my friend, Cissia wanters are Cissia havers
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>>563690345
They are still reconfiguring the surveillance catacenters so they have tolerable-negative impact on us.
The challenge lies in parsing all the shitposts, and scanning every single pixel in our shitpost images to analyse them for secret messages and such, so we can't bypass the police state. It takes a heavy toll on the datacenters to eat all the shitposts.
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>>563690521
I will raise and nurture and love this little crybaby. I love her for what she is.
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Billy!
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>>563690792
- is so cool.
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>>563690634
All natty
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My wife
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All of my little Angels are wifing material.
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From what I can tell, they actually put Cissia into NEPS rather than OBOL because Cissia works better with Qingyi.
This is simultaneous-synergy, while Qingyi applies daze, all the Qingyi buffs fully apply to Cissia's Corrode Bone.
Wheras Seed's buffs are completely wasted, and don't apply to Corrode Bone at all, until you specifically Swap in Cissia. Only then does the Seed buffs go online.
This is a weaker simultaneous-synergy.
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>>563691018
Ben doesn't get enough vocal appreciation. Because he doesn't need it. Because we all know that he's just cool.
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Let me get this right, when hollow zero decides it won't have encounter rooms, we are fucked and can't farm the extra 900 for this?
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Start doing this
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>>563691404
Same, they're why I stuck around.
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>>563691716
Training
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>>563691716
W-Engines if i'm not mistaken help agents attune to the ether using music and like "boost" their perfomance. But people like lighter, miyabi, promeia are naturally strong in a fight.
They stopped doing them but before all of the power agents had was lore dropped alongside their agent files, how Rina doesn't actually fly but uses magnetic forces to do shit.
I'm pretty sure no W-Engine Caesar could wipe the floor with *most* characters except the OBOLS and VHs of course
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>>563690634
They have fantastic asses
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I've looked at many video and text guides and nothing really explains how the fuck you break the legs.
Apparently I'm only breaking 4 of them somehow.
It's just
>do damage to them
Well, I am.
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What are my cope teams if I don't have Seed?
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>>563692402
I'm using Cissia/Toriga/Astra, it's really fun
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>>563692320
Change Seed for Zhao, I know you have her
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>>563682180
damn, all that teammate shuffling around was moot in the end
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At the very least for Billy. I'll be watching to see what else rolls along. And to continue picking up the free MMD distributions.
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>>563692871
Be a chad and use normal anby then, i'd do it like that if i didn't have trigger
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>>563692531
Zhao is on Miyabi team
Anyway my problem isn't damage. It's the performance points. I've gotten 19.5k but still only 3200 performance points.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. SEED gives shungus 1k attack and 30% crit damage or whatever the fuck it is. You replace Nicole not SEED but I don't have asta/sunna/2nd zhao.
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banging . . . BOOS!
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Many say this, luckily i don't
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Fine I'll talk about my cissia. she's great, her animations are snappy, my da score got boosted by 10k by replacing orphie (both without sigs), and the need to use seed's clunky basics is 99% eliminated so seed can just go pewpew and punch. I benched seed after pulling her because her kit was so dogshit in real application but now thanks to cissia comp actually works and feels good. Thanks cissia, I needed you.
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>Thanks cissia, I needed you.
MANY said this
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So whats the best bangboo for Seed now that Orphie is gone? (pretend it is Dialyn or Sunna instead of the foof)
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>>563692402
I've heard yanagi/cissia or qingyi/cissia.
Maybe haramasa/cissia....
>secretly reaches for my grace/cissia
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dialyn is better than fufu in that team and I don't have mindscapes or s rank engines
you need to get lucky in the first wave and hope the two guys get grouped and stunned at the same time so you can delete them asap. then just play your best against manato
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>>563691937
I'm going to bring her home.
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sex with fertility goddess androids
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>>563694068
You still can use THAT, right?
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I'm genuinely inclined to believe there's a pussy there since she has soft breasts already and clearly knows human female anatomy for her holocaust
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Cissia only has high daze if you compare her to weak daze units.
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Fufu!
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Its either high risk outdoor sex or clingy leg locking sex where you carry her around to fuck her on or against stuff and no in between. The 69 is insane and she will do foreplay until you beg to stop and then get cluelessly surprised. Is weak to being eaten out. Is weak to pet play. Anal fiend.
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>>563693914
it is a pure skill issue and i just can't make the jump. but right now i'm tired
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This is a C2W1 Qingyi,
I bet she will push Cissia below 5% when IO upgrade her engine to W5.
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>>563695187
I'll keep this gang of stinky thugs around me at all times just to ward her off. And then I'll marry Piper.
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damn i should've rolled astra's m1 from the guaranteed rerun banner. seed/cissia/astra is too adhd for my boomer brain but i'm having fun i think
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Great question.
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>>563695772
Yeah, although this one mogs it design wise
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This team is fun.
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>>563695698
I just wish I could shit at all.
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>>563695964
what if she never reruns anon, we don't want a rappa situation here right?
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She's coming for you
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YES HAHAHA DESTROY THE HUMAN'S RECTUM
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>>563695264
it took a refresher on yidari's kit and some tricks from the same guide. it really is a skill issue
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>laughting like a retard
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>causing shock gives you decibels
I like it when I learn new things, thanks
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And I would savor every single drop.
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>laughting like a retard
>tim.e
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Laughing like a genius at this.
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>>563697201
I did, but not her engine. Mostly got her because I like her personality, her shoes and her synergy with Evelyn specifically because I love my Evelyn.
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Not sure how much difference m1 makes on its own but with m2 and the engine she feels really strong. Though the only electric dps I had leveled before was Harumasa.
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>I don't BIlly to be nerfed leave
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>>563691567
A. You can do other Hollow Zero modes to get those rooms
B. You still get merits for clearing Hollow Zero anyway. You just have to do more runs if you do it the normal way. This is a good way to clear out any achievements or things you need from Hollow Zero though so you can knock out 2 birds with one stone.
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>We could have actualy dance
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>robot crashing down is kind cool
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>>563695220
Cissia / Nekomata was too defining. They had to stop it before it went live.
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>>563697894
Made for me.
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There could have been worse fates, I suppose. Even if I'm bottomed out now.
I said it before, but I think I'll just throw the second w-engine to haramusa. Finally an excuse to use him.
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>>563698073
The big punch? That's the best part of playing Seed
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Sorry I'm home late again, Wise. My boss kept me back for unpaid overtime again.
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why did they make such a perfect character? i will live my entire life not being able to find a woman like her
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>she just fucking dragoon jumps
This character is maximum soul.
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Well, i didn't got the feet alut, but i got her, so, win?
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>>563694840
Very cute. Also funny.
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>>563699379
>Other dubs have actual sniffing noises
>JP uses the onomatopoeia
Why are they like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8cWSH9OBjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmdqaunteY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fqKPpwWHkc
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>>563699508
Better quality.
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FORGOT PIC AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>I overslept and missed Nangong
So uh...rerun soon right?
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onomatopoeia is moe or something idk
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>>563682180
>Biggest flop yet
>ZERO good porn in TWO years. Almost no artist was interested in them outside the usual ones paid by hoyo
>completely forgotten halfway
>Killed interest in the game after 2.5 brought everyone back
They better go all out with 3.0. The ai generated honkai slop is this game's last chance.
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>That crit rate
wtf. Are you using an ER Disk 6? Also getting some more Crit Damage would be good. Your ATK is fine though and your ER seems really low if you're using Anton's engine at level 5
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Bruh, who said my wife Cissia was a brick? She's way better than S.Anby and Sneed.
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Alice's ears would only add like an inch and a half to her height though. Miyabi gets like 9 inches.
>>563700410
S11 + Pulchra + Nicole/Lucy
Nangong + Pulchra + Nicole/Lucy
That's about it. Anything else would require a boatload of investment. If you pull Seed or Cissia you can get a better Attack team going with S11
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WAIT I MEANT NANGONG + PIPER NOT NANGONG + PULCHRA AIEEEEE
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>>563699004
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>been playing since launch
>thought yanagi was too boring
>it's okay I'll pick up an electric dps later
>sanby is too adhd
>seed is too feet
>cissia is too seed
This is the only damage type I have a problem with but goddamn am I sick of Harumasa and yes I built Grace. I almost want to dump 180+ rolls on Cissia and Seed at this point but I just rolled all the angels failing the 50/50 each time.
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>>563700437
Is this better?
DISC 4 CR
DISC 5 elec%
DISC 6 regen
3 discs have +3 crit rate, 1x+2, 1x+1, and 1x+0 (disc 6)
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>>563700845
>Doesn't like OL's
>Doesn't like the face of the game
>Doesn't like feet
>Doesn't like sovl
Behold, the most SOVL-FREE day 1 player
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A bit. The line you want to hit without her sig is 82% crit rate. And I'm fairly certain anything below 100% crit damage doesn't actually do anything. She's not going to be a 3k huge ATK stat agent though so you're fine there and the ER is definitely much better.
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>the lack of quality porn is weird
It is not. ZZZ is a hoyo game so most of the fanart, like 99%, are from SEAniggers and western artists. Only safehorny is allowed
BA is the nu Touhou in Japan, night and day difference
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>Does he know
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>>563700845
>>cissia is too seed
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I'm still debating based on leaks/news and how many rolls I have by the end of the patch. I saw plenty of japs on twitter get her plus engine. I'm not shameless enough to use money on in-game purchases and strictly f2p.
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>>563701521
Yes.
I don't know what you intended to post a picture of but yes
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>>563701070
NTA but horrifying to hear. I think I just keep whiffing stats. ATK stat is also looking low but I need to finish her core passive first I guess to determine how I feel about that.
I just need to keep rolling discs now but I have seed to work on too, so I'm just gonna accept my mediocre unit.
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>>563701585
Getting her into good enough status with, bare minimum, all mainstat disks is how I played 90% of the game lol. Only now that I've finally caught up on literally everything have I dedicated all my days to disk farming and the serious upgrading has begun.
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>>563701140
IM GOING TO SQUEEZE YOU
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how can you even get 82%?
+3 is 9.6
You would need 53 CR on 5 discs, which mean you would need to have 3x+3 and 2x+4 which is basically impossible. Unless you use +8 CR discs instead of +20 regen. then you can 4x+3/1x+2 CR discs.
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Does anyone know what is Cissia's rotation during stun window if I have Ults available?
Dump all Energy then Ult then Hold Basic?
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Ult Dump then all energy then Hold Basic?
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Started about 2 weeks ago, I got big booba tech lady and the cat, should I just be gathering currency to buy enchanted master tapes and waiting for banners for characters i like?
I liked the singer lady, miyabi, and Wuxia's playstyles the most should i just save for them?
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>>563702076
it could be worse
you could've gotten the lucia treatment, who loses literally no clothes during hers other than the cloak that hid nothing anyway
or evelyn, who is turned away from the camera and also kept all of her clothes regardless
or one of the many of large-breasted girls who lost 70% of their boobieflesh such as orphie or mibibi
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>>563702148
If you're new literally do not spend anything at all until you finish the MSQ.
>yes, really
Take your time, you can do everything with Trial Characters. Do side quests to help keep your Inter-Knot level up but outside of that just stick to the MSQ and do that lazily.
There is LIDERALLY no reason to rush the game, none at all, there isn't any real multiplayer, end game is just log-farming (as in you just log in, do dailies, leave for the next reset).
The game is fun, don't rush anything, take your time.
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>>563702139
ZZZ doesn't skimp on the effort it puts into any characters. An A rank isn't going to make them money while costing just as much as an S rank. So they only give us the minimum to have access to all the S rank tools in A rank form. It's why all the speculation about a 3.0 A rank is that they'll set Ether Veils or be Wind element. Or both.
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>The tech lady
???
Anyway spend your currency only on the encrypted master tapes, never the normal tapes. And my motto has always been to try and leave every version with at least 1 new character. Reruns can take time and Astra + Miyabi are likely going to be unavailable for a while, but Shunko hasn't had a rerun yet so I'd expect her within the next couple of months.
Pull for who you like and look at the options available every update.
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>>563702603
I think he means Grace
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You're speweing bullshit in this case.
Anton's Sig has an 80% DMG bonus for 10 seconds, which is exactly what you need when you swap from Seed to Cissia to dump her energy and Corode Bone stacks.
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I did, she seemed very nice in the story, and greasy mechanic/tech autism ladies are my type so i spent a lil bit to try and get her.
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A ranks effectively cost the same amount of dev time as S ranks due to the amount of animations needed to keep quality consistent with the rest of the game even if they re-use assets and SFX, AND reduce their marketing materials.
The only time A ranks are ever relevant is if they provide a unique damage modifier buff or debuff at M6 that no other S rank can provide, so players are encouraged to pull deeper into a banner than they normally would.
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>>563702714
Oh yeah. I was thinking of Seed and was like I mean she's not flat but I would never describe her as having big tits lol.
>>563702772
What this guy said. Yes pulling sigs for DPS's is where the most value tends to lie, but Cissia's a sub DPS not a main DPS, and Anton's engine is a REALLY solid cope option. You're still missing a lot of nice stuff, but the ER is very useful and she can make use of the buff. If you still like and use Cissia when she reruns pick up the engine then.
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I play tanks in literally all mmos etc, the fact he can totally negate damage seems OP. Sorry.
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>Check Youtube
>Cissia videos everywhere
>Bibi
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>>563703486
There's only 2 and a half
>Hypercarry Cissia wants 4 piece Dawn's Bloom 2 piece Swing Jazz or Moonlight Lullaby. Disk 4 = CR or CD, Disk 5 = Elec%, Disk 6 = ER
>Sub DPS with Seed Cissia can use 4 piece Astral Voice. Everything else about the previous build is the same
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Seed love
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>the fact he can totally negate damage seems OP.
that's actually a relatively common trait in this game.
all of the void hunter agents are essentially invulnerable, as they are totally loaded with iframes and autoparries. the only exception to this is yixuan, who is instead a dedicated parrying playstyle, but you do actually have to do all of the parrying yourself.
most off-fielders are going to be literally permanently iframed because you swap them in to press a button that gives them iframes and then quickswap out whilst still iframed.
notably, yuzuha (a meta support) has a holdable parry on her held basic, which enables her instant EX special animation if you use it immediately after successfully parrying.
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>just had 4 hotdogs
>lettuce, tomatoes, relish, chili sauce, ketchup, and honey mustard
>played ZZZ while eating it
>hadn't had a good meal as this in a while (ramen NEET diet the past 2 weeks)
>finished S1, doing Astra-nomical now
>watching Astra's VA stream on the side
Bros.
NGL, life SOMETIMES is pretty fucking good and comfy when you don't have to wagie ragie in a cagie.
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Unironically mogged by an A-Rank agent (Nicole)
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>my boss is evil and Im trying to escape him but he can literally unperson me whenever he wants....
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>>563704193
>proxy can I stay over at your place?
>proxy can I have food?
>proxy can you protect me?
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would you like it if the rest of Outer rim characters would also be bike characters like Sbilly?
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I've been prety casual on how I aproach this game for a long time now but I think I finaly landed on a roster I'm satisfied with to clear all endgame with. Qingyi and Seed finaly found a home and Sunna & nangong can do doble duty supporting mibibi and shunguns. what do you think /zzz/?
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its funny how hard the designers work on shoes, and its not a big thing with weebs
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>>563704108
Pick her up if you really like her. You aren't going to ever be in the .01% so don't try to think too much about it unless you're poopsocking literally every decision and putting it into a spreadsheet.
Metahumpers will always be disgraces to the industry. They math the fun out of everything. Yes, having 3/3 buffs and an S-Rank Bangboo that PERFECTLY fits for a single (read: one) encounter is great but the amount of time, effort, and energy required is always going to be too much for even an above average gaymer.
If you like Rina, play her, build her how you think you should. This game is single player at the moment no matter how much people try to push the whole Outpost mechanic. I'm currently running
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Do they mesh? Not really, but all 3 are S-Rank and I have fun.
Don't force it.
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Developers did something to Ashuo. He is behaving like How since ~~1 month ago and hasn't been giving me 60 polychromes since then months ago. He has just been giving me a bunch of 20 polychomes a the past many weeks now.
It looks like Ashuo has been nerfed down to Howl's level, and they are preparing for the Season 3 dog fortune.
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Looking at Cissia's DA scores I'd say she compares extremely favourably and Anby benefits from the buff a lot so no side-grade bullshit at all but a genuine upgrade.
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I like them https://youtu.be/Gt_2b-Ezdgw?si=QNAZttYpDHBBWr1y&t=05
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>>563704438
dunno how viable she is with proper supports (probably not much).
but for free roam and dailies it's fun.
2-2-2 just because i picked the discs with the best substats i could find.
crit rate isn't all that essential because she converts maxHP into crit rate. you still want to be above 60% after the buff at least.
you want discs that have double crit, HP% and ATK% as substats. in that order.
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I wish all agents got atleast one song kinda sad for the ones that dont... I can understand if the talent wasnt there/too expensive.
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Ben is actually usable as a dps IF you pair him with certain characters. Orphie is the most common, the easiest, and most effective. Look up Ben guides on youtube. It's worth noting that Orphie will likely be getting a rerun pretty soon, as she is the last of the early 2.x character's without a rerun.
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It's not that Rina is bad. It's moreso that every other support agent is better, either with regarfs to ease of use/quality of life, or straight-up more buffs. I would recommend waiting until Rina gets a buff via the potential system before investing heavily into her, as she is overdue for some buffs.
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I think they're going to buff Caesar to be the sheer force/rupture support. She'll have Calydon synergy with Billy. Her shields also have synergy with rupture agents being unga bunga and draining their own HP.
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Both. If you're running:
Sig - CD disk 4 is probably better since you get a nice free 25% CR
Anything but a CR Mainstat engine - CR is likely your best bet for disk 4
CR Mainstat engine - You might still want CR for disk 4, but CD becomes a more attractive option here.
Disks 5 and 6 stay the same regardless of the engine's mainstat.
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have any of the other VAs also done covers for the character songs like the jp VAs have?
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>>563705959
That's false.
S11 prefers Lighter and Astra, especially when on Nocturne but DIalyn instead of Lighter is also competitive and against Pompey Jufufu replaces Astra if you can keep weakening stacks at max.
Evelyn needs Lighter and Astra
Neither Banyue nor Manato want Orphie and both prefer Dialyn though Lighter is probably not a bad choice here.
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mibibi
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>>563706419
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Cissia is generating full energy too fast.
Qingyi can't stun before the energy overcaps. She definitely need her Sig engine to be W5, it will be super interesting at that point if we can reach a pivotal parity point where Qingyi Stuns before Cissia Energy overcaps.
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New player here. Which team should I build? Which Cissia team works the best? I only started playing yesterday and failed to get Cissia, so I bought a starter account with her.
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corrode bone (the damage tick when her stack is consumed) also gives her up to 18% crit rate
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You could conceivably slot Rina into some niche team where she would be good. Put Grace's wengine on M2 Burnice with Puffer 2pc and pen% in slot 5, add Rina, and you're at 106% pen ratio. It would turn Burnice into a rupture unit.
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>Love the power upgrades Seed has now that I've M2'd her
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>>563706409
Yeah, it kind of is. If everyone else is better than she is, then she's bad. She's at the farthest end of the scale away from good.
If being the worst at something isn't by definition bad, then what is bad?
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None of those are particularly strong but that's also I assume cause you're new and probably don't have shit for agents. Cissia Zhao and Nicole would probably be the strongest trio of those 3 options though.
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>>563706978
All the characters I have rn. I'm not gonna play any male characters.
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>>563707129
lol that's exactly how I ended up with a guarantee. I got everything I wanted pretty fast I went for the M1 but lost the 50/50. The responsible thing to do is wait.
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Do not pair Cissia with Rina. They have anti-synergy, as pen ratio and def shred result in diminished returns. As a rule of thumb, build teams around either def shred OR pen ratio, not both. Nicole and Cissia are good together, for this very reason.
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>>563707379
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Rupture are basically DPS tanks since most of them have a parry gimmick somewhere in their kit.
However, most limited have loads of i-frames.I feel like they should delete most of them, except for the attacks that make the characters jump or fly.
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>>563682180
>YYZ
Even after years you guys are still getting humiliated kekekek
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>>563705587
what is this faggoty wall of seethe
just dont salespost (low effort brown shitpost) and you wont get hit with white low effort shitposts
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>>563706978
cissia nicole zhao is probably the most reliable option here but you don't activate cissia's passive with that team. Double gyaru + Anby turns on everything, but her extra daze buildup is not worth losing zhao's buffs. It honestly doesn't really matter since you're new though, as cissia + nicole will serve as one of your core teams for a while until you can expand your roster.
Electric teams have a lot options too so if you can't get seed now, you can get always trigger or qingyi or any other electric when they rerun at a later time.
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Am I just mind-coping or can most combat stuff just be cleared with a good loadout and left clicking? Sorry if this is reductionist but I just cleared a fucking screen by only left clicking and moving on, then doing the same thing.
Either my loadout is just "that good" or there's something I'm missing. Yeah there's some "hard" stuff in this fucking game, I've tried some Hollow Zero shit, my Inter-Knot level is only 51 so obviously it's a mix of me not being up to snuff but also not knowing Trial Characters, but holy shit.
Is this game just pressing one of four buttons and it just depends on the order of characters?
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Bosses are the only enemies you really need to try with, and the character you are using only really becomes a problem in timed endgame content where how quickly you can kill them is the most important factor.
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>>563707934
Aria is already smart.
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>>563707695
If you're playing for story content, you won't find it difficult even if you only ever use the free characters.
If you're playing for challenge, you won't find it until you hit end game, that means everyone level 60 and such.
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endgame has a higher difficulty level, with more dps checks to clear. this is specifically with regards to deadly assault and the last stage of shiyu defense. the days that deadly assault and shiyu defense reset are the funniest days in the thread, because people post their scores and you realize that a big chunk of people itt still cant fully clear endgame, even with meta teams
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>>563707695
Tower can be kinda difficult but it's repetitive since the encounters don't really change much but it is effectively no-hit content that you can do and the timer is mostly cosmetic.
Deadly Assault and Shiyu Defense are mostly a roster check at this point, but it can be fun getting your first full star clear. After that though, it's easy to get jaded because the shill buffs can make some teams just feel like shit to score with.
Full heat Hollow Zero can be interesting on some weekly rotations but the buffs you get can be so strong that you can trivialize it anyway.
There's not any capstone challenges in this game, so outside of weekly resets, the combat really doesn't have any place for you to really lock in on.
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Thanks bros. >>563707286 Dang, and here I just got Rina signature weapon from the standard banner. Was hoping I could use her. Maybe later in a Corin team? I like Corin.
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I'm self-inserting as Wise.
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>>563707917
LycaHugo is for toxic ex enjoyers.
LycaWise is much more wholesome.
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I'd definitely build Ellen if I got her out of the Standard banner, since I don't have an Ice team currently and there aren't any Ice agents I like enough to spend limited pulls on. Probably with Lycaon and Zhao.
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>>563708354
Why?
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Vivian Banshee
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>>563708639
That I can do.
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/zzz/ test.
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Holy Hell, I can finally post again. Is this gremlin worth raising? She's cute and I actually liked all her involvement in the story. She never pissed me off when she started talking.
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>>563708998
Maybe this?
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After getting Nangong, I feel like most of the cast has been power crept. I started out playing when Zhao dropped, but I could immediately tell the difference between later Agents and the early ones. Nangong feels busted and she's the only Delulu I have.
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I mean, doesn't everyone have Zhao? She felt pretty good when I first started.
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>>563709263
I don't think about it too much and I just pull for who I like bro.
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Lycaon and Lighter remain very useful, and Banyue has good damage potential when played well for the dozen or so players who pulled him. And Pan, I guess, if you either don't have Lucia or want to run two Rupture teams.
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Is this too much crit for sneed? I use dialyn and harumasa for her
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Why are ZZZ devs such liars and pussies
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They advertised the w-engine 4 days ago and on the debut day they wrote that they are changing it https://x.com/zzz_en/status/2044076921617850613?s=46
They lied and changed it
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Yeah she has her sig on…guess I should switch for a cd disc
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>>563709539
I don't run male Agents because they don't make my dick twitch, not because I think they aren't good. If a male Miyabi came out and I had the misfortune of getting him, he'd be level 1, base line friendship along with everyone else who doesn't have tits. I'm not joking, Billy is the sole exception because I needed him in the tutorial. I do not level them, I do not engage with their trust events, I do not consider them.
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>>563710296
I rolled Seed and Cissia and Seed's W-Engine because I like Seed and I think she's cute! I also think Cissia's cute but her design is ass. Thank goodness for mods.
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>a glowing belt buckle looks like a womb crest
Anon, the buckle is still there when she doesn't have her sig, the only difference is that it's not glowing. How does making it glow suddenly turn it into a womb crest?
I genuinely don't care whether you roll for her engine or not - I'm skipping her, after all. But your argument is genuinely confusing.
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>Anon, the buckle is still there w
I don't care retard. It no longer looks like the womb crests, so now it's just a normal betl thing.
So I'm not going to roll your censored engine.
Why are you trying so desperately to argue this?
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The bears and the red head come off as furry bara fetishes, the Belebog guy is just annoying, Seth is a justice faggot AND he's annoying. All of the male characters save for Billy are just annoying whenever they're on screen. The female characters have better dialog, though there are stand outs like Yixuan sounding like an AI with her shit va, Vivian being annoying with her "Lord Phaethon" dick riding, and Caesar just being boring. Lighter and Billy are cool, but ZZZ is a baddy game.
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>>563710597
Wonder if that means we'll get an actual agent story for Sbilly in 2.8, like we did with Sanby.
And yeah, I hate how some of the temporary events serve as introduction for new characters. I was extremely confused why Astra was acting like she already knew me in the story quest, only to find out it's because we met her during an event that happened before I started playing.
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>>563710635
Trigger is basically not a stunner.
80% of Cissia's Daze, means Trigger would be
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>>563710558
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>>563710697
>Shittalking justice
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>>563710658
The point is that it never was a womb crest, anon. It was just people like you convincing themselves of something that wasn't real.
>your censored engine
How is it my engine? I'm certainly not rolling for it, because I skipped Cissia.
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>>563710872
Works
https://youtu.be/ovpkBs3xsJo
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>>563710258
Based and no homos allowed coded.
This gay faggot furry is m4 and I will NEVER EVER use him.
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>>563710757
I asked
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>The point is that it never was
I don't care retard, It looked like one, but now it doesn't look like one. Retard.
No I'm not going to roll your censored engine no matter how much you damage control this situation.
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>>563709851
Nikke stay winning I guess
It's such a shame ZZZ devs are working under Hoyo. they deserve better
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They advertised it for days then on the debut day they chickened out and said its not the final product. I know they didn’t lie but it’s still pussying out and gay. Mihoyo needs to get rid of CCP ties
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>>563711036
Ziz>Behemoth>Bahamut>>>>>>>Leviathan
Imagine if 2.x entire story in ZZZ is just (you) chasing after a loli's ass
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Enjoy your day today homoCHAD
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I’m >>563709758 and just switched discs, also raised her attack a bit. Engine is still level 59. I hope this is better
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They actually removed her entrance animation.
No, it was not an improvement, it made it look worse.
And yes, I needed very little incentive to convince me to save my polychromes, that was enough to convince me.
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Because there's no point in arguing with you. You've already convinced yourself that X is the truth, so no matter what evidence I could provide in support of Y you'll find something flaw - real or imagined - that you believe really means it was X all along.
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Look at this gay shit bro. I know ZZZ isn't a traditional "gooner" game with low effort bubbles for asses, tits, and bules, but it's undeniable all the characters are made to appeal to some kind of fetish. Just look at how Lycaon stands. Dude was made to get the girlies flicking beans.
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You've literally got niggas like in the pic here
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>You've already convinced yourself that X is the truth
That's wrong though. I can acknowled it's a belt thing, but at the same time I can insist it had the potential to appear like something else.
But you don't seem to have enough braincells to understand how optical illusions work.
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He's a cutie.
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>>563711927
I'm sorry, but trying to imagine the mindset of a guy who likes getting topped is just beyond me. I can imagine being the type to want Vivian to shove her umbrella up their ass, but taking dick sounds about as appealing as eating shit.
>>563711980
Why are you gay?
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>>563711093
i disagree, i was one of the gooners complaining about the most recent promeia changes. her previous design was held up with strings and were visibly leading down into her shorts like a g string, making her look sluttier. the narrow, slender strings were also more reminiscent of shibari rope, adding to promeias bdsm elements
this most recent censorship change may be a slap in the face, but it's not as bad as the other censorship changes that she has gotten. they've cucked so much about her. the only things that have remained are her ball gag, her arm bindings, some ceiling harness/sex swing poses in her attack animations, and her overall trenchcoat/flasher aesthetic. the concessions leading up to this point have been so disappointing
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>>563712013
Kill yourself homo.
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>>563712014
>Why are you gay?
Guys are attractive?
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>>563711915
Doesn't seem like it, anymore. Who knows how long it'll remain stable, though.
>>563711889
I'm not sure every character is necessarily designated for a fetish, but certainly all the agents are designed to have some sex appeal, not to mention romance appeal. Lycaon specifically Is playing to that "gentleman with a violent capacity" angle, where he could make you tea just as easily as rip your throat out.
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>>563712254
>weren't something people talked about publicly
Most people definitely don't do that. I haven't mentioned it ever in my public life for example, and I'm the one you're butthurt over. So I can also dish up an anecdote on you about how wrong you are.
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>>563712350
You not mentioning it doesn't mean others won't. Twitter is definitely a public place, and I've seen other people talking about Cissia having a "womb tattoo" on there in the week preceding her release.
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>>563712536
>You not mentioning it doesn't mean others won't.
"others" would still be a microscopic minority.
You asked to bet that I would talk about it in public, I pointed out I have never, so you are 100% wrong, mr butthurt.
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I'm looking at seed's W-engine right now. you get 2 stacks of +12.5% electric damage, and at 2 stacks you also get your basic attack ignores 20% of the enemies defence. is ignoring defence not just another way of increasing your damage? what's the functional difference between +20% damage and 20% DEF ignore?
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>>563712982
If you mean this post
>>563711535
that is quite literally not me, it's the other anon you were arguing with.
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>>563712817
AFAIK DEF isn't linear, so 20% def shred doesn't directly translate into 20% damage increase. Could be less than 20% or could be more, I dunno. Depending on the DEF damage reduction curve, you get different results. Plus, these two damage mods work from different directions and stack multiplicatively with each other. As the general rule of thumb it's better to spread your damage boost across different multipliers, because you risk running into diminishing returns otherwise. If your character has, say, +100% elemental damage increase from passive skills, a disc with +25% elemental damage boost will only result in a 12.5% overall elemental damage increase, compared to no disc.
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>>563713276
I don't care, if you argue in place of someone you have responsibility when your argument falls apart, and I can attack you from any angle, even from the post you argue in place of.
That's the consequence when you butt into an argument between other people.