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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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Let's hit a new high score this time, shall we?
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I just wanna say that I love cunny
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>>1953831
I just like to think PNC has lesser constraints compared to a game like GFL2. The sequel released sandwiched between a ongoing game (GFL1) and another game set decades later (Reverse Collapse). I do agree the main story releases are handled very poorly.
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What happened to Yongshi's game?
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Based off my friendlist Enfield's player retention is looking like fucking shit wtf
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>Wuwa is getting shit on everywhere for being ~120gb for the past 2 weeks
>Never hear anyone say a single word about HSR which is a 10 times smaller game, permamently removes old content from your drive (up to 6gb a time) when events end and still is 100 fucking gigabytes
Does no one new play this game or what?
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>>1953860
That's kind of insane what the hell, I thought it was like 60 until I checked to verify
The graphics don't really look that good with everything on max settings
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I thought PCfags are rich, Why would mere 100GB bloatwares bother them?
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I was thinking about playing black beacon in the cn server but I looked at some gameplay and the games looks like it has less budged than PGR did back when it came out, no wonder why it's doing so bad
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>>1953898
Yes
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>>1953836
>kills all momentum with the shittiest update known to man
>shit is so bad it forces mihoyo to introduce something they've avoided forever, the skip button
>forced to update older characters
>forced to make the MC actually take a role in the story; still gets kidnapped and does nothing for half of it
>literal "it was all a dream" ending to the shit 52 hours of story
>it was all basically for nothing other than the writer self satisfaction
>bow down to chink politicians
>have to extend a patch to two whole months
>release the most whorish character known to mihoyo, has sex with everything that moves and "settles down" with the MC, hope you like that gaping hole!
>the hyped japan planet becomes penacony 2.0: flipped assets
I wonder why.
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>>1953845
They thought adding males and not having fanservice was the key to success. I mean, it worked for no one ever, but this time for sure.
So they deleted the males and added fanservice, and their game is forgotten and no one cares about it. They are also working on 3 other games, which are looking to be even more of a flop.
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>>1953907
Are you playing dumb or are you actually just stupid? Obviously Kuro did that to reach a wider audience. They’re a company they just want to maximize profits, like how there was zero ML pandering in 3.x just to pull more people in.
They're becoming Hoyoverse 2.0
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>>1953915
This. Its been a thing ever since 2.3, when they censored some characters (no compensation, unlike when they did it with PGR). Also no trick to uncensor them. Ever since then they more or less stopped adding fanservice, every character is fully covered up, they have pancake ass, no panties (only safe shorts), and no big tits. Last character that showed a decent amount of skin was Iuno, but that was because her model was done by the time of 2.2, she still got hit with the censoring (they added a second bra and skirt), Lupa also got censored (she used to prominently show her ass in her ult, and had an actual side boob).
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>>1953917
The hag that released last patch that was one of the biggest flops the game has seen. I'm surprised you don't know, since most cucks follow mihoyo games really closely.
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>>1953927
>endgame rewards
>2.5/120
What a fucking joke.
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HE will save HSR
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>>1953921
Shes literally telling you to not get the wrong idea and think her and BS had anything sexual going on
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Scara 2.0
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>>1953938
No, us MLbros need more accurate representation to fully immerse ourselves.
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Don't forget how in 3.x they went with ZERO ML eith the starting girl, then, another girl? Outright rejects you. And the third? Platonic a daughter.
Ans during a fan animations stream they sponsored, they allowed multiple shipshit one, including Danjin x Calchud, which made chinks do pic related.
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>>1953961
He'll save the game
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KILLS MIHOMO
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[Sad news] HSR's new region flopped
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Cygames is currently sending DMCA notices to Gelbooru.
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Cuck dust to rewrite the entire story and reframe it with the female heroine as the main character to erase the fact that they literally replaced the original BD self-insert with a brown dude
Also, it seems that the majority of the playerbase is shippers that are okay with romance. As expected of game everyone calls cuck dust I guess.
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So I decided to compare global pull stats of zzz and endfield...it's not looking good endfreaks...
>average 6* limited is 75 pulls
>jumps up to 95 pulls if you only want the rate up
>zzz is 95 pulls for a limited
>zzz gives over 100 f2p pulls per patch
Watch endfield only give like 50 f2p pulls a patch if the endgame is anything to go by.
>saar weapon is free saar
>200 pulls for a guaranteed weapon saar
>saar you get 1/20th of a weapon 10 pull a week
Thoughts endshills?
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>>1954008
Most people started playing in late 2024. And that was precisely when they started the whole Master (black hands guy) pandering.
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>>1954008
>gacha JRPG
>literally zero fucking content or gameplay other than masturbating to women being fucked by monsters, creatures or disembodied black hands
have you ever played a RPG in your life? just because you roleplay as a brown (duster) in your favorite gacha doesn't suddenly make it a JRPG
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>>1954011
Late 2024 was when they started the hardfuckingcore shilling too by paying twitter rats like pirat_nation to shill the game on twitter and /v/
I swear these devs are intentionally starting controversy and drama every month because if the controversy surrounding this garbage dies then it'll just go back to the dumpster where it belongs
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Now that genshin is abandonware, what game do we move onto?
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>from 1 male a year to this
lmao what happened?
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>>1954029
the sunk cost spell is now in full effect
enough waifufags will stay regardless
expect more stuff like aether humiliation until the current sunk cost bunch start waking up out of their copium. and then hoyo will just repeat the cycle
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>unironic genshitters ITT
who invited these freaks
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>>1954038
It's not bad actually. It's just Monster Strike is too strong. It got more than 493M in a day. If I remember correctly, wuwa spending event got 480M on the first day. I still don't understand why the nips still like HSR even after the geopolitical disaster.
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>>1954029
What you mean? Nothing happened, this has ALWAYS the way mihoyo has handled their games. Same with hsr, 4.0 is full of homos. I still remember that schizo trying to shill mihoyo games as "being ML now", and everything telling him to fuck off.
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>>1954003
>1.0 limited pulls in wuwa: 240
>1.0 limited pulls in wuwa: 240
>rolls in the permanent content for wuwa: 40
>rolls in the permanent content for endfield: 41
>average pull income with events for wuwa: 100
>average pull income with events for endfield: 50 lololo, obviously no more than that, endfieldshills whats your response??
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>>1953991
I mean yeah, they wuwon because Kuro went mihomo with anti ML. 3.1 was pure platonic shit
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>/gacha drama general/
>No mention of AL drama in CN and Global
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>>1954003
ZZZ also gives 150-200 pulls in major patches (two times a year). It had 250 limited pulls on release. You shouldn't compare realistically, ZZZ is very generous (partly the reason their sales are bad, people normally skip filler characters, e.g. idols or krampus, and roll plot relevant agents with weapons basically for free)
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>>1954083
The "genshin palworld clone" in question: https://files.catbox.moe/5bwyfi.mp4
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>>1954080
Imagine not actually playing the story and thinking this. Current Rover wasn't the one who spent a few months taking care of Aemeath, and Aemeath is 30 now, not a little girl, who only knew Rover for a few months when she was like 9. She even explicitly calls Rover her "mentor" and "senior", never saw him as a father figure. More like an uncle she wants to fuck, and the feeling is mutual from Rovers reaction. Its a common trope in asiahttps://exhentai.org/g/2816864/f8b6eac7c3/
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>>1954089
They even deleted Rover kissing Aemeath video.
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>>1954089
Coping hard? JP, KR, CN and global consider her platonic.
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>>1954085
Endfield shading and models look better, and its not open world slopa
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>>1954096
I don't know who you are trying to fool, but there are TONS of fanarts and videos of them being a couple, specially on CN and JP. Its fine if someone doesn't see the incredibly sexy girl with a provocative outfit (unlike every single other character in 3.0), who acts incredibly flirtatious and keeps mentioning how much of a stud Rover is in a romantic light, but tons of people certainly are.
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>>1954067
kek
Where is wuwa?
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>>1954094
>Only love letters for characters newly released between the two Valentine's Day events will be updated
That means old girls only get the same old love letters as the previous year.
>>1954097
No one argues with that. HG has always been technically better than Manjuu. The only selling point of Promilia is that it's all waifus
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>>1954071
>Nod Krai
>Planarcadia
>Quality
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>>1954113
>That means old girls only get the same old love letters as the previous year.
did they made a promise that "all girls will get new love letters every year" and they broke that promise?
even if they did break it that's still a tiny blip in the "gacha drama sphere" considering what actual massive dramas are like in chink games.
azur lane is an old game with dwindling relevance, it make sense for them to slowly cut back costs anyways
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>>1953845
Mixed pandering didn't work so they started copying Snowbreak. It worked.
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I've never played zzz but is it really this bad or just out of context ?
For a fanservice game it's kinda weird hoyo would go out of their way to make these differences for the male mc specifically.
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>>1954133
it's "big" enough to become trending topic in china
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>>1954102
She must've fucked like rabbits on campus. No way she wasn't flocked by chads. She'd take the home (our little home in the frost land) and have herds of men ravaging her prime-for-breeding body on Rover's bed.
Think Rover will give their blessing to a chad who will marry her?
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>>1954144
>copying Snowbreak
>but no! let's keep the m*les!
AG and pgr will never be snowbreak
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>>1954153
Yeah, AG took too long before it changed direction so removing them from the story would be too much effort at this point. It will always live in Snowbreak's shadow.. They are really trying, though. Seasun removing the one male before release had to be the smartest move anyone in gacha has ever done.
And Kuro has lost all ML rights after what is happening to Wuwa right now.
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Amy is just watered down version of pic related anyway.
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>>1954113
>HG has always been technically better than Manjuu
in what fucking way? if you think AL has been abandoned to develop promilia then let me break the illusion for you
cucknights has been abandoned years ago
cucknights wishes it could have half the qol/content that AL gets
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at least you get to roll hot chicks
cucknighters will wait 6 months to save up limited pity just to spend it on the flaming hot homo furry of the year
while doing 30 minute stamina dumps every day because no sweep until recently.
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>in what fucking way?
Well I keep hearing AL always has bugs and one japanese suspected that they transferred all competent devs to Promilia while leaving AL with incompetent devs.
HG seems more competent if you look at how well optimized Endfield is.
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>>1954189
Try to make "daughterwife" comment or post Rover and Aemeath video that's not platonic or daughters coded. They will immediately delete your comments or posts. That's what happened when you have a yuritard foid as one of the mods.
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>>1954165
Bro's acting like a rape victim
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>>1954189
i got banned there for saying "yurifag." said im homophobic
meanwhile the leaks subreddit is based
something i noticed is trannies are obsessed with mod positions
just look at CZN subreddit. for as long as i can remember they had the homofurry as their avatar
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>>1954105
>Where is wuwa?
Beating ZZZ
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>mobile only
>rough estimate
>even then, it's only beating zzz once every 3 months
sure saar, wuwa ml saar? yeah saar.
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>>1954137
i'm a girl irl and i will now play your game
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>>1954210
Trvke. That Rover kissing Aemeath video got 72% upvotes but it got deleted because of one femcel mod.
The video is actually pretty tame: https://old.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1r2lqp9/if_the_msq_en ds_after_the_concert/
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gotta love it when hoyofag brains short circuit when they dont always win in their ol reliable revenooposting
i mean, they're the ones who believe in these, not me. enjoy your own medicine i guess lol
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doesnt look good for /zzz/oootrannies
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Yuri won
/gdg/ lost
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>>1954223
s-saar you're not supposed to compare spending event vs spending event, that's not fair
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If Wuwi is so popular, why does it only have half as much fan content as ZZZ?
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>>1954219
can't wait for the day real foids got replaced by subservient androids, hope you guys have enough savings
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AP will save gacha
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>>1954233
cause there's more lolis and hags I wanna impregnate in zzz than wuwa with half the roster being bland chink outfits and the other half references to other video game characters like mavuika ishtar and female vergil
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>>1954241
yeah...
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>S44RS' VOICE
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>posts made up numbers for 1 week
>someone else posts made up numbers for the entire year
>NNNOOOOOOOOOOO DOESN'T COUNT SAAR ZZZ STRONGEST VISHNU SOLDIER SAAR!!!!
KWABYDOODLEEEEEE
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have to be 100% honest, players vote is botted shit and nobody should care not only for this award but TGA as a whole anyways
Was fradulent when genshin won it years ago and it's still a fake now. Cannot fathom why wuwa community went absolutely feral over this award when this section of awards is the only one that they allow bots for some reason while everything else is just who spent the most fucking money to win shit
>it takes two winning goty
>astro bot for MUH PLATFORMING after decades of gamers and normies saying platformers are shit and sold like shit even during its golden era in the 90s and early 2000s
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>>1954261
S44RS redeem wuwa now best story many youtubers crying and praise by japonese shakespears absolute cinema
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>Open thread
>Poowajeets izzat farming hours
>Leave thread
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>>1954271
The only reason I'm here is to shit on wuwa and give them a reality check. I don't even visit /zzz/ anymore because it's filled with wuwajeet samefagging.
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Saintbros, I think this is checkmate...
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There was a youtuber that said the story in 3.1 was intentionally kept vague in order to satisfy both waifufags and players who want aemath to be rovers daughter, and he got railed by wuwa fans for suggesting she could be anything but a daughter. It was the biggest drama last week
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Since you guys are so knowledgeable about CN/KR/JP gacha culture, why are all the JP oldfags that used to make touhou MADs back in 2008 doing trickcal MADs now?
https://youtu.be/Nd6f1SCvL2k
You can tell because of the age of their niconico accounts and that they are using old touhou songs.
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>flap flip flop
Sure wuwabro. You can cope with the imaginary numbers all you want but the community loves them and they will be the face of zzz going forward. I'm also not a shareholder, so I will be glad if anti loli tourists quit zzz and play wuwa instead to make you look better in your memechart.
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what went wrong?
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>>1954296
2.0 did. The first two patches after a top-up reset will always look good on the shitty chart, it's also 1.1 when zzz had more players. Nobody fucking cares about Qingyi, not even top 5 of zzz most popular loli.
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>>1954295
not canon. wise wont touch her
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>>1954301
There's LITERALLY nothing else to talk about. People simply don't make new threads on /vmg/, they just migrate to the newest drama thread. enfield released, no one gave a shit. same with zzz idol patch. same with hsr 4.0. same with genshin newest shipping patch. The only one that got some traction was the wuwa one.
No one here cares about lads so we don't talk about their drama. We don't get big drama anymore like pic related, raymond, or promilia scrapping their males.
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>wuwa could never
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ZZZ wins because it has good doujins (I don't give a shit about either games)
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67 mentions so far by the btw
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notice how zzzootrannies will never post in game content
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>>1954295
my nigga
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>>1954322
Because they literally just met like two hours ago in that image and maybe Vivian is not a slut who touches men casually?
You can just search youtube "wise and vivian" and it will have more content than rover and all wuwa females combined.
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>>1954332
vidrel was posted as a flex lmfao
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MLbros...
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>[FUNNY NEWS] Mihoyo bought a promotional stream for HSR 4.0, but it ended up with only 300+ viewers.
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=46200457
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>>1954340
That actually looks very difficult to pull off.
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>zzzkeks have to hide behind the bigger game now
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>>1954355
Yeah, him sitting in the chair.
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You know the answer. Its a mihoyo game, the company who proudly brags about their 60% female employee rate, and how closely they follow western woke organizations recommendations.
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But global wukeks are the loudest and most obnoxious yet all they do is akin to "my girlfriend is really hot but she goes to another school, dipshit, thats why you cant see her". How can such a big fanbase have nothing to show for after this long?. Sad, pathetic!
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>genshin killer
>couldn't even beat zzz
lemao no wonder your general is dying
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we all lost my nigga
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wuwon bigly
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They hate me cuz they aint me
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>>1954247
>It's literally just all design
>ZZZ mogs the everliving anything about Wuwa
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>>1954379
Miliastra Wonderland is better than every map in genshin and wuwa combined
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>Muh fanart=popularity=revenue
Blue Archive has 374k illustrations on Danbooru alone, yet nobody plays the fucking game and it makes zero money. Fanart numbers doesn't mean shit, there can be various reasons why one game has more fanart than another (such as being paid off under the table by the company behind the game which BA has been caught for). In ZZZ's case the game is super shipbait. WuWameanwhile has zero shipbait so it filters the shipfag artists which dramatically reduces the fanart numbers)
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>>1954418
>1.0 characters
Everyone universally thinks they look like dogshit, why don't you compare to 2.x or 3.x characters.
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>>1954420
>Yes.
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>The superior ZZZ designs in question:
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So according to /gdg/ i'm not supposed to enjoy fan creations, then what am i supposed to enjoy?
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>fanart doesn't matter
>social media engagement doesn't matter
it matter cause its practically free ads
>imaginary mobile sales matter
revenue doesnt matter if they are making less profit than spending money of marketing
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Chinese pipo just don't cook as hard as they did back in 2020, they've gotten complacent, they're inside their comfort zone, they don't even try anymore
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I don't know, it seems to me they are trying really hard, just not all of them. Like, both hypergryph and mihoyo are doing bottom of the barrel shit, while other companies do full motion animation for every single cutscene, custom animations and expressions, vocal songs and new areas every update. Some of them are built different, some aren't.
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>>1954436
>Platonic archive cuck mindbroken by wuwa again
WUWON
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>>1954478
>>make a leotard
>>give it a skirt and hide tiny shorts underneath to give an illusion that it isn't censored
>And people will call this a coomer game.
Meanwhile in an actual gooner game
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I'm ready digging the enemies' artistic designs shown in neverness to everness
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ARE YOU FUCKING READY
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>>1954505
>Free of Indians
>Free of Americans
>Free of Eurocucks
>Free of Brazilians
Finally my timeline will have only japanese tweets
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>>1954505
Mollusc, I fuarking kneel
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>>1954506
>nice try wuwajeet but the comparison was with wuwa, unless you are willing to admit glf2 is a better gooner game and snowbreak is a better ml game than wuwa
Alright here's WuWa
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>>1954529
and the singular coom character makes it more coom than gfl2?
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>>1954532
Typical wuwajeet behaviour
>zzz is more goon than wuwa
>no saar, gfl2 has more goom
>but glf2 is more gooner than wuwa too
>do not care saaar, wuwa better no matter what saar
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>>1954538
This pic is from 2hu's stream and you cropped his face out of the screenshot lmfao
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What do anons think of chibis giving the player fuck me eyes? Is it too much, or do you want more?
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Probably not going to happen. Only the first half of wuwa patch was good, second half is filler story for a homo that no one cares about, written by a different team so no kino stuff.
Same for their next patch (3.2), just filler.
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I think it kinda is. The patch itself is doing fine, its just that the rewards for the spending event are shit. Its a standard 5 star weapon, a few cosmetics for the bike (which they are probably going to take away in favor of a new movement mechanic in 3.5), an old and powercrept 1.X character, and a few cosmetics for the MC which don't even show during conversation or cutscenes.
The new character is also mega shilled in current content, so its not like you even need to get copies to beat everything.
I thought doing a spending event now in 3.1 was a strange decision, considering the anniversary is in 3.3 and they can do stuff like 13 different reruns (like in the first one) and buff older characters so you are tempted. As it stands, characters like jinhsi, zhezhi, camellya, or roccia can't clear the newest endgame and they serve no purpose.
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>all the characters have spats now btw
Not Aemeath
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>>1954592
>spending event with a bow skin and slightly different cutscene animation for one character = milking the whales
>spending event with a universal bike decoration and a 250usd crown for the mc = no milking, its so minimal anyway
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>>1954600
not every gacha can be as B-B-BASED as snowbreak.
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>>1954604
And yet snowbreak girls are incredibly dry as shit characters compared to the usual haremslut maybe get better taste in girls first indopig
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>>1954619
>ZZZ has zero censor
>Update comes that censors the character past a certain angle like their other games
>Uproar
>Conveniently, within 24 hours, Mihomo claims this was an "accident" and pushes a "fix"
>The fix is literally the exact same censor except it's a fade out now
>Retards celebrate like they won
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>>1954613
Hoyochads get to decide what kurocucks can play, kek
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>>1954620
watch your tone lil bro, before I zoom the camera in on you and make you fade away.
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>>1954570
Endfield's male MC never stood one chance. Even the hetfags are making ML art using fem endpipi
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>>1954719
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Thats what happens when you exclusively listen to oversensitive MLfaggots, because every girl has to fall in love with (you) from the start with zero build up. No character arcs, shit "development", don't even think about having any conflicts. Just dry as shit cookie cutter personality with a different skin.
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>>1954893
Me, representing all of Snowgodchadbreak
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Does snowkeks even get tsunderes? The classic ones I mean?
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>>1954952
What was supposed to be an actually important gacha is quickly being relegated to a gacha only chinks give a shit about, same as what happened to Arknights but worse. The normies are now catching onto the fact their gacha is literal jew aids at this point as well.
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>we want R1999 audience
Kuroxisters be eating good
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>Lynae
No ML. Just a friend.
>Mornye
No ML. Already moved on from (you).
>Aemeath
No ML. Daughter material. Confirmed by JP and CN VA.
>Luuk
Very ML. LADS-level pandering.
>Sigrika
No ML. Just a classmate with a platonic relationship.
>Lucilla
No ML. Belongs to Mortefi.
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>Holidays
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>>1954983
rover with other girls
>lets them platonically sleep on his shoulder
>that's it. not even so much as a kind word
rover with his adopted daughter
>tight, intimate hugs
>caresses her head
>holds her hand lovingly
>whisper sweet nothings in her ear
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>>1954969
Luuk is the only one who gets valentine art. Enjoy your ML, Kuroxisters.
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>>1954997
morning sirs! valentine is can ok in our glorious china game
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nice valentine wuwjeets
AHAHAHAHAHA, didn't pic related rejects you?>>>/vg/557360824
https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2022521185070629042/photo/1
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>>1954604
i'm not sure about gfl2, but doesn't this valentines day cement snowbreak as the king of ML, especially 3d ones
its is ridiculous how a kusoge like snowbreak manages to stay consistent thus far despite being a mechabreak laundering gacha
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>>1955010
Very on brand
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>>1954969
>friend
>rejected
>daughterzoned
>LADS
>platonic
WUWON
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>>1955010
ML GAME AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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snowbreak is a FL game actually
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>>1954948
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who won this valentines day?
>everyone except genshit and wuwajeets
you live to see it really
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>waifu
>rejects (you)
lmao
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added 100 friends 3 or 4 days after launch and only 2 havent logged in today
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A snowbreakchad punched me in the face and told me to stfu, this shit is so unfair
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>>1955084
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>>1955069
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>>1954954
>gudako is more popular than gudao
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>>1955094
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>>1955099
Look at all these SEA artists...
>>1955103
It was about popularity, not canonicity
And why the hell are you bringing Wuwa out of nowhere
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>>1955070
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>most popular HSR tweet of 4.0
>that currency
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>>1955134
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Arknights Valentine's Day
>JP: a 3D video featuring Eblana talking to you
>EN: artwork featuring a male character
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if you guys thought the Wise humiliation was bad, this is what they've done to HSR's male protag
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>>1955281
Anon have you seen how fruity the average Arknights player is?
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>>1955303
>Endfield status?
It’s looking pretty dire. They’ve made 4 surveys in just 3 weeks so player retention must be absolutely shit right now. What’s worse is that each one takes like 30 minutes to actually finish, and the reward isn't even enough for a single pull. What a fucking joke.
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>>1955311
not surprised, they must have sank a good amount of money into the game with the graphics looking that good and the numbers isn't looking good for a launch month.
male-MC-no-touching aside what were they thinking with that watered down factorio shit
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>>1955329
you actually trust the official fluffed up numbers? LOL
seriously though, yes, a game can have multiple platforms for earning money and in Endfield's case I would be inclined to believe that they earn more on PC-side than usual gachas.
the gacha earnings is still a big indicatior though, for a big budget gacha >>1955326 is a terrible starting month.
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all the numbers are false
the black chart has magnified chink android store sales
the white chart admits it's not totally accurate
but the most unbelievable number of them all is from the company itself because they have to answer to the shareholders and they literally have no benefit to tell the unblemished truth.
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People aren't in a mood to start playing a new gacha
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>People aren't in a mood to start playing a new gacha
This
Just the thought of the massive, long, manual, sometimes even active grind that is needed to get the items needed to extract the most out of your girls greatly depletes any desire I have on starting a new gacha. The only way gachas manage to make me take the bait nowadays is by offering a game with lots of interactions with the girls, and at least a decent gameplay loop, and that's essentially unheard of in current gachas, until NTE and Ananta release, that is
The big redpill on gachas that isn't immediately apparent is that they're all excessively shallow, and their devs exceptionally lazy
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>how bad endfield is
the funny thing is HSR feels worse on every single aspect
>gameplay? full powercreep, strongest for 2 patches
>story? 8 hours long yapfes every patch
>exploration? lol
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>>1955350
and there you have it, the source of all shitposting is always a wuwajeet shilling their game. How crazy that the only believable number is a leak from tencent shareholders who also have a reason to lie to the public about how much money wuwa is making.
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>>1955390
Meanwhile Genshin’s Valentine’s art has Scaramouche at center with Paimon, while the Traveler was nowhere to be found.
That’s just the true protagonist treatment.
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>mihoyo model quality
>meanwhile, other game
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>PC revenue accounting for nearly 60% in the domestic market
>PC and PS revenue combined accounting for 70% in overseas markets
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>>1955404
PS doesn't bring much money, it's PC which does. Manjuu obviously doesn't want to censor the game for Soiny, and soiny demands that their censorship has to be spread over all versions of the game on all platforms. That obviously is going to kill the game, so chicken decided to simply forfeit console release. Only homos play PS anyway.
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>>1955371
ZZZ mainsub got taken over by gacha grail last year, you'll see Wisepags and posters unironically saying "i am the target audience". I have no idea why, but ZZZ is the one game Gacha Grail has latched onto the hardest, I don't really understand why when it has regular MC humiliation like this.
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>>1955430
>There's one Robin artist who went through a depression twice.
This shit is always funny
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What do we think of the 100% romantic song Kuro commisioned for the newest wife character? Not a single allution or mention of family. AND it was released exactly on valentine's day
https://youtu.be/jKBXJXUeAeE
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https://youtu.be/9LffgQC0Y58
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>HSR's 4.0 is losing to WuWa right now on CN mobile
What went wrong?
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Why would you go back from bad to dogshit game? Honest question.
Every friend that still plays it only does due to sunk cost and they don't even care about anything but the weekly MoC or whatever it was called (full story skips, doing events on final day only)
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>>1955467
It's like FF14 Dawntrail without Wuk Lamat
So it's not insultingly bad but no matter what it's still aggressively plain and boring
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>>1955423
More like
>trust me guys this is 900% not!japan
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>>1955467
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>>1955493
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>>1955520
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>100 platonic relationships
>100 empty promises
>0 organic relationships and emotional bonding
The absolute state of haremking rover bwihihibwahahahha
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>>1955545
>play platonic waves
>expect romance
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>>1955543
>ml
>mihomo game
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>>1955550
mihoyo IS ml
you lost
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>>1955555
Not the chinks' fault, it's the troonslators'.
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>>1955554
>mihoyo IS ml
Source? Every agent in ZZZ is platonic towards the MC, there's zero ML pandering. At least there wasn't until Ye Shungus (out of a desperate attempt to sell her after every otehr 2.x banner flopped).
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the only true ML game
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>>1955566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EgcaP9Wvc
you're forgetting hutao
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>>1955586
funny that you mention that cuz mihomo went RIGHT BACK TO IT this year
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>>1955281
>EN audiences
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is this the meta on getting views on yt for gacha games now?
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>>1955610
>encore's whole character is stuck to aalto
couldnt be more untrue. just look at picrel
>roccia's whole character is stuck to brant
brant and roccia have companion quests. neither of them appeared on the other's
>>1955633
it's true though. why else do you think zhongli and hutao(and almost all hoyo characters for that matter) have so much shipshit fanart?
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whats with gacha players and tribalism instead of talking how good the game is?
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>>1955635
>1/10 comments are negative with double-digit downvotes
>9/10 are seething at the negative comments, calling it hoyogaming, complaining about ecochanmbers and so on and so on
wuwabros live in a different reality
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So this is Arknight's legacy...
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>do not compare spending event vs spending event
>do not compare new region patch vs new region patch
>do not compare rankings or tiktok hours
>do not compare fan content vs fan content
>do not compare new character stories; only use ones from 6 months ago
>do not compare new character designs; only use ones from 6 months ago
You WILL comply.
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>There's anons ITT who thinks HSR is straight.
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>>1955535
Just a quick update on this Valentine drama: currently this post got more than 39,000 comments.
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You know its really over for hetpandering when the majority of the fanbase prefers the female MC.
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>>1955733 (me)
The comments are gold lmao
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>>1955744 (me again)
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>>1955741
for the based sapphic watchers
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>>1955758
Fucking how, MC has been jobbing to mid level enemies since 1.0 and needs the help of the currently shilled 5 stars to win. It was so fucking funny how aemeath says the MC has to treat people with tweezers otherwise they break, but in the story every fucking 4 star echo kicks his ass like dreamless or dragon of dirge, not to mention other threnodians.
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>>1955744
Nice ML game wuwakeks ahahahabababababba
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ZZZ has been more ML than wuwa since 1.4 because TVslop and Janeseth almost killed the game. It's time to let the copium go. Wuwa kneeled to genshin audience and that's why even the chinese are making fun of MLfags who still stick to wuwa like this >>1955746
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Why did nobody tell me that endfield global was gonna EoS, I already spent and they won't refund me
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>>1955809
Chinks will have to release banger after banger for 10 years straight if they want to regain my trust in their shitty lazy nigger products
But I have to say, NTE offers things that I can't do in any of the current gacha, and it's basic as fuck things that should be easy to implement, especially for industry giants, yet they didn't, which makes me question their motives, and justifies my decision to never spend in gacha
NTE will still lose to Ananta, it's inevitable
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remember, valentines is woke now, we say holidays instead
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>>1955833
Isn't that how Arknights has always operated?
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>Reddit repost general
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>>1955819
Rance X
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>>1955850
Anon, among all the gacha devs out there Lowlight is probably the biggest girl-on-girl shipper out there, closeted as he appears to be.
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>>1955823
>On one hand this means Rhodes Island succeeded. On the other...what else is left?
>played AK since 2021
RI outright failed due to HG failing to write out Originium. that op failed to understand that Endfield is a soft reboot because they wrote themselves into a corner.
>Surtr's quest, while being a beat-for-beat rehash of her IS stories, nails everything to a T. Sets stakes
op is not aware most of the clones of endfield are the AK1 characters who had no lore, character arcs, or resolutions. Those 3 main points were known by AK vets (that weren't HG bootlickers) for years ever since Lone Trail and Vic arc.
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>>1955813
What is their weird obsession with erasing the concept of holidays in general? This one isn't even anti-Christian like they usually are unless you want to go with the ultra-traditional view of it being linked to Saint Valentine.
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>the hsr imageboard in question
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>>1955863
The worst part is if you ever find a guy playing HSR he's either detached to the conversation or a fucking femboy
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>>1955884
Si anon
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>>1955884
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>>1955994
Tbf they allegedly had to scrap an entire Japanese planet at the last second and make up another on the fly. I bet they even had a Raiden/Yae expy ready, like it was going to be the second coming of Inazuma
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>>1955467
>How was HSR 4.0 story?
Funny.
But overall I'd say Ampho was more epic and interesting.
Planarcadia looks fun though
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>>1956020
That's the trick. They don't.
The real "fight" is honestly to see which ones EOS first, Stella Sora or Endfield.
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>>1956016
>wuwa flopped and crashed
>CEO literally sent a company wide letter congratulating the team on record breaking profits
sure thing zzzqueen. Have a collection of wuwa lolis
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>>1955599
genshin is truly ML for female audience
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Can we get a serious analysis on why Endfield and HSR are flopping so hard? Wuwa's second month made 4x more than its launch month (Yinlin vs Jiyan), but Endfield is heading the complete opposite way.
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>random ass art from other studios out of nowhere
How much do you think a shilling campaign like this costs?
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>>1956091
Who cares? Genshin and other mihomo titles dies because of faggotry and patches dedicated to homos, not because some relationships between some girls can be seen as ambiguous. Nobody cares if Ningguang and Beidou much carpets if they are also interested in player, same goes for Astra and Evelyn. The game dies when shit likes Lycaon + Hugo and Sumeru faggotry gets pushed along with blatant censorship of a few females, which is not possible to do in homo free games by design. Manjuu is greedy, but they aim to make Genshin/Wuwa/Endfield that is toxin free. It may be slop, but it's natural 100% additive and processing free slop (no homos, less censorship), so it will work, because people actually want that kind of slop.
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>>1956135
I'm not joking
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>[SAD NEWS] Another long time Mihoyo player got doxxed for raising sharp voice
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Compared to last year, GI/HSR/ZZZ reached
>63%
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of their respective annual revenues
Dawei needs to act quickly before the next batch of gacha comes out
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>>1956097
>majority of users on console/pc
>sales are untrackable outside of rankings on the console store and EGS(who the fuck even uses that? Does it have rebate?)
>mobile sales will never go up due to this which are the only ones the estimation sites track
Is endfield the perfect gacha for /gdg/?
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>>1956150
>>majority of users on console/pc
we really need to stop with this delusion
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>>1956155
They are ideologically incapable of doing that. Look at what fujodev did to ZZZ, the game that had 99% gooner audience. They still go out of their way and try to shove yaoi and shipping even if they know well it's going to kill their game and pretty fast at that. Mihoyo will never deliver, no matter how much money they blleed, their staff is ideologically and literally gay. Dawei would have to introduce external management and purge at least half of its employees for that to happen.
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>>1956097
Homotranny market is oversaturated. Look at Arknight sales, for instance. Not only they cannibalize other homotranny games, they also lower the market cap for all homotranny games combined. Homotrannies now don't feel their games are unique and as a result stop swiping in all of them altogether. Now they play multiple of them and all of them are just the same shade of grey slop. Endfield release was a huge mistake for homotranny devs, they literally killed themselves with that one.
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>LaDS is still on fire
>nobody talks about it
i'm noticing
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>>1956175
I'm still busy gooning to the MC.
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>>1956097
>Can we get a serious analysis on why Endfield is flopping so hard?
Game with no identity had a mediocre launch with average ratings. It didn't innovate anything, instead regressing. It's model was built on the assumption it was going to over take hoyo games, hence why there's so many packs on the store and the 15 day banners. It's very telling that Surtr's banner (mind you EF had 4 years of growing hype, real or not) did not beat Columbina. The game's main appeal, the factory, is it own death nail because those fans will ignore the gacha and primarily be F2P.
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>LADs competitor
>from Mihomo the fujo company
Mihomo will never make anything that's genuinely for yumes. The devs are fujos that hate hetships and if homoslop wasn't banned in chinkland there'd be canon yaoi in all Mihomo games. Yumes with money already know Mihomo isn't worth shit that's why they play LADs
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>>1956194
Infold took a loan from Mihomo 3 years ago and that's literally it. Mihomo has no shares and doesn't own anything from Infold and if you're going to bring up that the CEOs know each other, literally every gacha bigwig in chinkland knows each other.
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>>1956063
>What was the plan with having 51 days in a patch and having no events and barely any pulls?
They're trying to figure out a way to Arknights the game, meaning they're going to find every possible corner to cut and reduce every budget they can while still trying to take as much of their players money as possible.
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Sure thing, just a loan, no strings attached. Just appear together and act as best friends. How stupid are you? Why would you fund your own competition instead of funding your own game? If it wasn't actually your game to begin with. It's like saying he just went on Epstein island for a vacation, just to swim in the ocean. Right.
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>>1956063
Wuwa sped up the release of their female banner because they launched the game with a male bannervery ml. Wuwa sped up 2.0 by 4 entire patches.Kuro paid shills want to push the ladder behind them, like always
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I don't know how deranged and brainrotted you'd have to be by /pol/ to believe Dawei is playing some 4D chess when corpos taking loans from each other isn't uncommon nor are CEOs that work in the same industry knowing each other is. We all know Mihomo does not give a shit about their "competitors" when Genshit is still the biggest cashcow on the market and Infold is no threat to Mihomo or any of their games. LADs is completely different in terms of audience and Infold has always made games for foids.
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>>1956213
>Wuwa sped up the release of their female banner because they launched the game with a male banner
they changed schedule because mihoyo tried to fuck them over with zzz's release date
>Wuwa sped up 2.0 by 4 entire patches
1.X was doomed because of the rewrites. also the earlier you end the chinawank, the better
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>they changed schedule because mihoyo tried to fuck them over with zzz's release date
what does this mean? they released at the same time and they knew it ahead of time. Why even launch with a male banner if you know a female banner can save your game?
>1.X was doomed because of the rewrites. also the earlier you end the chinawank, the better
thats speeding up the schedule, by half a year of patches instead of a couple of events. Giving extra information doesn't counter my argument
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/gdg/ won
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All true btw.
Except for the homo going with the "games made by the same company don't have to appeal to the same players!"
Promilia is dead in the water
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Endfield? Lots of reasons, all already posted in this thread. The retention rates must be abysmal.
>HSR
Honestly not versed in their lore, I even dread of going into their general for a peek, way too gay.
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>them
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>>1956180
Gooning to someone's female OC who keeps telling people not to lewd it feels sinful and i love it.
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>>1956281
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>>1956283
since the end of time people love shitting on whatever big wig exists that has too much power, hell you can fucking even compare it to how the higher ups in the world realized how big michael jackson was so epstein trump and friends framed him as a pedophile to make him lose steam over the mass and eventually killed him
Genshin pushed gacha into the normie space, years of abuse made many bitter so its why when HSR dropped they all immediately hopped on there and the patch by patch 10 pull into eventual free dr ratio created the Genshin could never term. As hsr got worse it was time to try and find another game to hopefully outdo genshin since hsr was trash, which became wuthering waves
now we're seeing wuwa vs everything mihoyo makes and it's their only personality. Even one of the older mihoyo players glaivekiyo is a wuwa vs mhy slop creator as one example of an old bitter mihoyo player
It's insanely fucking rare to find any actual gameplay or lore content creators that avoids any and all drama and has a decent following, any that people can find is likely sub 10k channel with barely any views despite good gameplay or lore discussion
genshin hsr and zzz cc pretty much gives 0 fucks with the tribalism.
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at some point you have to ask yourself if its normal in other genres, do you see entire f1 channels making video after video comparing f1 to forza horizon? comparing the complexity of its racing maps, the car decks, the asphalt, the smiles of their ceos? Its unhinged
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>Bilibili streamer こどく_孤独 reportedly fainted tonight after livestreaming the Wuthering Waves 3.1 storyline.
After finishing the story, their emotional reaction was reportedly so intense that they lost consciousness. Local viewers called emergency services, and the streamer was taken to the hospital.
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>since the end of time people love shitting on whatever big wig exists that has too much power
everybody knows everything popular is bound to get hate. im asking why after all these time, hoyo constantly gets compared, with the same issues. presentation, reused animations, black screen white text, paywalled features, QoL updates that only make it to the next game
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those are not live service the way gacha games are. they dont have to try selling you characters you can spend hundreds of dollars on every 6 weeks. it's another genre with a different audience for a reason
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>literally each of 3 games is of completely different genre
call of duty vs battlefield is as old as those series, and people can't stop comparing both and having dramas about one doing something better than the other
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>>1956308
>confuses tedium as real gameplay
gachafags never beating the most retarded gamer allegations
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I'm so fed up with being two-faced.
The way the developers treat their characters is blatant; the protagonist always changes gender in the next scene. For example, the one embracing Aemeath is a female protagonist. This inherently steals the protagonist's uniqueness. If they don't want to create two versions of an animation with different genders, at least have one gender per scene. Changing gender in a single scene is disgusting. Wuthering Waves is just trying to please the 10-20% of female players. I hate this kind of favoritism; pleasing only a small group is inherently unfair. Watching fan-made content is better than watching the official transgender protagonist.
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Because a lot of people feel that the game is going to shit thanks to the resources being redirected to the roblox mode
The fact that the maps are even more scarce than in Natlan and the quality is bottom of the barrel garbage isn't helping with that
Genshin is right now an exploration game without exploration
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>Why is the no effort gamemode that bloats the install size so hated?
>After every measure of quality took a nosedive?
>And numerous features people have been begging for for ages are only available as player created modes in that mode, proving the devs could have done it in an afternoon years ago?
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>cn wuwa community is on fire again with cuckposting
The absolute state of ML game
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>>1956352
An ML game with an all female cast will never appeal to me. It means there is no competition from the start, and it makes you paranoid about another man existing. When another man appears, who knows if your wife feelings might change because she sees a man different from you for the first time. Meanwhile, ML in a mixed gender cast means you know there are lots of attractive males around your wife, but she still chooses you as her only one. You are the special one, and nothing will change that. Pic unrelated.
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If it makes sense for wuwa to compare itself to genshin because of waifus and parasocial behavior, then why wouldn't endfield do the same thing? wouldnt endfieldfags believe they have better waifus and be more parasocial towards their game and thus be mad at hoyo? why is it only wuwafags doing this?
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i only gave you the parasocial and waifu example because you were trying to use random unrelated genres as examples when they couldnt be further from how subculture games operate
the comparison videos are not about who has better waifus. i dont even know if i still understand you
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>lads eos soon
You wish. But femoid is something else (check Kpop for what happen to women) they love to spend outrageous amount of money in lads and merchandise, even the papergames is surprised of this goycattle behavior. I guess battered wife syndrome affect lads player.
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>>1956387
That makes it even better isn't it? If they are made with those people in mind that means devs will never try to ship them with female characters and as a straight man I can just ignore them.
There's a reason why "pure" ml games will never be popular. Because they're shallow and only appeal to the most insecure mlfags who can't stop thinking about getting cucked.
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>the males are there to appeal to women or gay men
You think that's enough to appeal to women or gay men? In order to appeal to women or gay men, you need to:
>reduce fanservice
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>make MC the cameraman
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>More realistic graphics than wuwa means its souless, more style and its too unrealistic and kid-friendly
>Less masculine mc than wuwa means the company hates its customer, more masculine mc means that the average jeet cant self-insert
>Less tribalistic than wuwa means the fanbase has nothing to brag about, more tribalistic means they are cultish and shills
>Less generous than wuwa means predatory and greedy, more generous means desperate and close to eos
>more money than wuwa means its greedier and it appeals to normies, less money means its a bad game and will eos
bros, how is wuwa so perfect?
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It was really funny to see the immediate swap to fem rover just for the hug in that scene. The best they could afford for male rover was two short shots of eye contact lmao. Kuro really is trying to slowly shift away from the male player focus of wuwa's early days and now those players are just coping instead of pushing back.
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What the fuck does ML mean?
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https://x.com/WW_JP_Official/status/2022883570298032196
official wuwa video
>male mc watches aemeath
>female mc wakes aemeath with breakfast
>female mc plays games on the couch with aemeath
>male mc watches aemeath
>female mc hugs aemeath
>female mc next to aemath
>male mc next to aemeath
>female mc eats in the same table as aemeath
>male mc next to aemeath
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i can already tell shell be forgotten when her banner ends
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The official /gdg/ ML tier list as of February 2026.
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based poowajeet
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>>1956443
Updated it to include Snowbreak since I forgot to add it.
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Tell me what’s wrong with the list, retard.
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My bad, I should’ve put it in the Yuri tier, since Belle can touch the girls but Wise can’t. LMAO.
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>AIslop
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>Yuri doesnt count as ml because its gay but pgr and wuwa having men thag are for (you) counts as ml
>Endfield doesnt have shipshit and has plenty of pandering but it counts as mixed toilet despite pgr and wuwa bejng mixed toilets too
>trickcal is platonic (?)
I dont care/know enough about the rest
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>Nikke a game where all the girls are for (You) and the MC is male isn't ML but poowa is
I can’t wait for tencent to go full normalfag pandering and wipe out every last poowa shill on /gdg/. The cracks were already showing last patch. Tick tock poowakeks...
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Wuwa isn't ML by his definition, but neither is Nikke, let's not lie to ourselves
The MC is treated like shit half of the time and removed from the story at the first opportunity
It doesn't help that the Legendary Commander feels like the self insert of the writer either
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True ML game is coming soon
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Saaaar pls redeem wuwa saaar wuwa ML king of gacha saaar
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Why is he shilling this loli yuri furry mixed toilet game?
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I don't understand why wuwajeets think Wuwa is more ML than ZZZ. No bond events, characters disappearing after their patch, and all relationships feel shallow. ZZZ is not a perfect ML game, but it sure as hell does a better job of showing girls having affection for you. It's getting mogged by NTE for sure though >>1956489, and I wish the ZZZ devs would step up and do something similar.
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>I don't understand why wuwajeets think Wuwa is more ML than ZZZ
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>ZZZ is ML saar
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Where is Aemath valentine art saar?
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A woman
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New bread
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