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>Thread question:
How do you write a good fight scene? What examples come to mind?

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Best trainer harem fics? Preferably self-insert/isekai, but for the most part anything is fine.
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>>58954734
This question and image combo made me imagine some kind of post-apoc scenario where Gym Leaders/E4 are trying to collect women for their village harems, but they're all being outpaced at every turn by Erika who's become an unrestrained yuri goddess after the fall of society.
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>>58954699
>How do you write a good fight scene?
For fantasy and historical and such it helps to at least have a grasp of how people actually fought, IMO. Looking at videos of people's interpretation of historical manuals and watching them hold the actual weapons and such. It kills me every time in a fantasy novel when both people have swords and the clinch, fight ending move is somehow kicking the other person in the chest.
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Eh what huh oh you were using the proper acronym. Yeah that seems like good advice.
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>>58954794
What are you talking about In-My-Opinion-Anon?
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What's the occasion, why did the board speed up recently?
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>>58954976
Gen 10 leaks? I think? Idk I'm just here for the artdump threads.
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>>58954699
>Mina OP image
>TQ is about battles
If I was sober I would have a 5 post thesis on battles in Pokémon fanfic. Doesnt help that I’m on page 16 of a pure battle chapter and likely getting to 20-22 pages.
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>>58954699
I don't think I write good fight scenes, but generally I try to use the environment to give the scene a sense of weight. I don't want it to seem like characters are fighting in an empty void.

>>58955004
I'd love to read it.
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>>58955014
>I’d love to read it
Chapters 43 and 44 of Prince of Po Town will feature the battle and I’m not done with it but I’m proud of it so far. If you want my thesis on good battles, I’ll prolly post it tomorrow (no longer sober).
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>>58954699
I like to think I write good fight scenes, but I've written a lot of 'brawls' more than one on one fights.

Personally when it comes to pokemon battles I tend to prefer righting them sort of inspired by in game battle mechanics. Both opponents act at the same time and are trying to predict and 'outplay' each other during a fight. Pokemon can't take that many hits unless they are built to tank so it really matters what moves you can get off. This keeps fights from dragging on, and lets each move carry more weight.

If using the same move often then don't write it the same way every time, try and come up with fun and interesting ways for the move to be used to keep battles engaging.

For bigger fights with lots of mons I don't let myself be caught up on every single action going on. Just take small snippets of different parts of the fight and try to have them flow from one piece to the next.

I shouldn't be writing paragraphs when I'm tired like this.
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>>58955032
Good, I just started to write a fight scene today for my wip so hopefully it'll help. I already did TrainerVTrainer, now I'm doing a fight against a 2v1 dangerous wild pokemon.
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>>58954699
>TQ
I don't, I write bad ones. It's a massive weakness of mine. In general, I lay it out like a pro wrestling match: plan some important spots and the ending, then just write through with what makes sense at the time. Also I try to remember that it's still a scene and I need to be considering my characters' wants and beliefs and that I'm conveying information even as they fight. That's how I came to all of the fights I'm most proud of.
Though if anyone has any better ideas I'd love to hear them.
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>>58955690
this guy's lying btw, I just beat the shit of a ratatta that was annoying me
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>>58955690
If you care at all about your pokemon then you'd go to any length to get yourself pokemon genes so you could fight alongside them.
Objective #1 after failing to unlock aura or psychic powers should be hunting down Fuji and cussing him out until he breaks down like a bitch and gives you superpowers.
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>>58955690
wrong
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>>58954699
What stops you from giving a taser to your fire-type Pokemon so it can fight water types?
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>>58956007
My Magmar keeps tasing himself like a fucking idiot.
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>>58956007
Just teach your fire type to make their body so hot they film boil through any water type.
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>>58956253
>Just teach your fire type Desolate Land
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>>58956276
Didn't the New Normal do some shit like this? I remember him "teaching" his Pigeot Reckless because for some asinine reason pigeot weren't competitive viable in the author's eyes so he had to semibreak the rules of his own fanfic setting to make it viable.
It was an ability that technically wasn't one but still worked anyways because the author said so.

Dumb as shit. Why not just give his Pigeot some staraptor genes?
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>>58955690
dude is so dejected and lost
Did his wife sleep wit his emboar or something?
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>>58956007
Thunder punch being a thing
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FF1anon, whenever you think of Wol, and I know he doesn't have a 'canon' appearance due to him being from essentially a player class from the FF games, but do you think of him with a stoic expression, or with a smile? As in the first expression that comes to mind?(I personally view him with the intial professionalism before it falters into that kindness of his.)
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>>58956007
your pokemon can only hold one item at a time so, the opportunity cost of not having leftovers, assault vest, life orb, etc. doesn't outweigh the utility of being able to hit a single type super effectively
on top of that water is a fairly defensive type so chances are a water type would be able to withstand a taser hit, as well as the fact that fire is also weak to rock and ground both of which are more widespread than water types, even on non-rock/ground pokemon

that is to say, why would they bother
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>reading fic
>author makes MC a psycho feminist
>makes a post about "what the fuck are mens issues, only womens issues are worth talking about"
>gets a ban
>thread gets locked
lol, maybe spacebattles mods aren't so bad after all
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>>58956571
because it would be funny
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Well, at least it wasn't multiverse conqueror Giovanni
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>>58956600
See this is why you need to be sneaky with your woke. Do things like indirectly show through skin and hair descriptions your MC is black. Or showcase a communal, anti-corporate lifestyle embraced by a major character without directly calling it socialism. Maybe even have a lesbian character that doesn't outright make a speech about her orientation but is clearly only attracted to other women.

Just little things like that, Elmo.
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>>58956276
This gives me an idea.
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>>58956519
He tends to be stoic most of the time. He tends to come off pretty intense because he isn't usually very expressive, which is part of the reason other knights look up to him. He comes off as unflappable regardless of the situation, when in reality he's just bad at expressing himself. So people assume he is unshakable because he has an iron will, but in reality its more resting badass face.
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>>58954699
Never played SV, I just discovered you can make MTs using fur, scales and even sweat from Pokémon.
I guess this gives a reason for poachers to exist
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>>58956858
Thank you! Now I know what expression to add to my Gigachad/Starman Wol drawing.
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>>58955032
Ah! Finally back from my vacation! So do tell Pofag, has Ian fucked Hyde yet? :)
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>>58956872
It's a pretty interesting list of items that are defacto 'safe' to remove from a pokemon without serious damage to them. I've used it for pokemon food byproducts, had the MC eat a pastry with surskit syrup without him knowing what a surskit is.
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>>58956872
how much does Croagunk poison sell in the black market?
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>>58956872
ok, who's the guy that's buying this?
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>>58957034
I don't need to buy it, I get it for free after our jog.
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>>58957034
>gamer Pokémon bath water is real
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>>58957034
The guy who wants to make Leaf Storm or Solar Beam.
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>>58957009
It's not long-lasting against humans nor particularly harmful considering what it does to Brock, so I doubt it's useful for much.
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>>58957341
That's just because Brock has Ground aligned chakras.
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>>58956919
Oh yeah, they’re fucking Fucking ready to kill each other.
>>58954734
I unironically have one that’s 90% harem and fucking and 10% Pokémon training. MC was written to be pretty generic to easily self-insert. The harem got out of hand though.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/40598415/chapters/101716854
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>>58954699
Is this escalation?
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>>58957629
That’s a handicapped Pidgey.
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>>58956600
Which fic?
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>fic is set on a Japan-based region
>they eat with spoon and fork
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>>58957785
>fic is set in a Japanese region
>everyone behaves like an Amer*can
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>>58957034
Would be marketed as a form of tea, I think. Moderately "exotic" like mangos and pineapples are.
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>>58956740
It could still be him, there's no confirmation one way or the other.
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>>58956600
Which fic?
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>>58957785
mfw I have my characters pick up a fast food breakfast hashbrown in Kanto
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>>58957785
>From Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh/Kitakami
>Doesn't know karate
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>>58956813
>Elmo
What?
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>>58956813
>Just little things like that, Elmo
It's been bugging me all fucking day where I'd heard that phrase and I found it. Good taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URgOttlcLLo
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>>58957341
Probably controlling the dosage
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>>58957785
>fic set in Kanto
>they eat jelly-filled donuts
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>>58959042
>fic set in Kanto
>everybody uses their frying pans as drying pans
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Do we know anything about human medicine?
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>>58959313
Wally had to move to Verdanturf because he had asthma, so no very advanced
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>>58959313
Isn't the whole point of humans that they're easily replaced? I don't think there's much investment in human medicine, especially since most scientists probably get roped into the pokemon side of things due to its importance.
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fic idea: wandering swordman traveling the region with his Pokemon, takes hunting jobs from villages to earn a living
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>>58959574
Mushishi-ish. It could totally work.
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>>58959574
>>58959604
Or Spear and Fang but Pokemon
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>>58959574
>>58960056
I was thinking Touge Oni
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>>58960284
So in the Celistica era?
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>>58959313
The stuff that goes into medicine for Pokemon also works on humans. It just rarely comes up since humans getting hurt isn't the focus of Pokemon. Even in ancient history people could just squeeze out a medical leak to unbreak their legs. It's kind of ridiculous actually.
https://youtu.be/zflsMl4_b0U?si=fnOcB-Vi6KxvyVvT&t=340
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>>58960552
That's fucking magic, now I can believe Pokémon humans being way superior to us thanks to their magic herbs/goods like the average chink cultivator.

Why do people seethe when they are depicted as superhuman again?
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>>58960641
Because only MC can be special with his nutrition knowledge
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>>58957785
This is one thing I noticed while reading game of champions, it's very, very american. The Japanese are refereed to as a separate group by Red as he's expositing basic informaiton to Rocket Grunts and Brock's family are Ainu. Which is odd, especially since it would make more sense for them to be in Sinnoh rather than Johto or Kanto in this post-earth world of Neo-japan and Pokegods.
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>>58960641
I don't seethe myself, but pokehumans being super human works on the same logic as a lot of stupid power scaling logic that I find annoying.
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>>58961253
I've harped on it before but that is why you DON'T explain why they can get so much stronger than irl humans. How'd they do it? They trained to. But how can training make them so strong? Same way training makes a Pokemon strong. Why doesn't everyone do it? It's a lot of fucking worn and most people have other jobs/hobbies/passions than becoming strong.
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>>58961309
Pokehumans are strong due to their Pokegenes that they acquired after their ancestors fucked Pokemon
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>>58961332
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Could someone please post the bingo card again? I don't have it.
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>>58961424
Domo arigato, mr Anono.
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>>58961309
The part that is annoying is that it becomes an insane dominoes effect of trying to apply logic to more and more escalating effect until people follow that logic to insist some absurd things are canon. And then they extrapolate on those absurdities to come to even more ridiculous conclusions. And it can be pretty fun to do, but some people take it seriously and suck all the fun out of it.
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>>58958104
looks like it was a worm fic
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>>58961584
It would be Juchū Kaisen by the "TheEpicLotfi", correct?
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Have there been attempts at crossovers between threadfics? Like shitposting or anything?
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>>58961460
>to insist some absurd things are canon
Like tanking a hyperbeam to the face? I would honestly just make every human comic peak human with only those that put effort reaching, I don't know, Deathstroke and Captain America tier.

You don't need to turn them into saiyans or whatever, just look at Monster Hunter
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>>58961669
IMO had a subtle reference to Crystal Light (mentioned a TV show about a “brave knight with a Blastoise” or something like that). When I get to the part of PoPT where TVs exist I’m sure I’ll toss some references in as if the stories are actual TV shows in-universe (only with permission of course).
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>>58961669
I was considering having an insane Gible at one point as a gag. Or writing a fic where an SI isekai's into each thread fic's world and cucks the MCs.
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>>58961584
>>58961595
Of course it was a wormfic.
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>>58961595
Based, I love JJK, worm, and forum shitstorms. Thanks for the rec
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>>58959604
Mushishi itself would straight up work
Roaming ghost-fairy specialist in the Hisuian era
it'd take a better writer than myself to pull it off, extremely character focused
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>>58961671
Aren't monster hunter hunters genetic superhuman abominations?
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>>58961998
Seems so thanks to an ancient civilization and hey, we have the same shit with Az's super weapon so you can argue that its radiation changed humans from normal tier like us to whatever the hell they are now that can tank hyperbeams to the face
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>>58961920
Some of his posts were deleted so be careful to check replies to him as the replies weren't deleted
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>>58961424
>MC disrespects powerful people and is rewarded
I see that Naruto inspiration, buddy.
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>>58962080
Absolutely deranged
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>>58962080
Both of the people in this image annoy me
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>>58962137
But Naruto knelt to Ay tho if anything Ichigo and Luffy did that way more, though I thought that was talking about SI-LVER since he does that all the time
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>>58962080
have another
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>>58962235
This person needs therapy
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>>58962235
>every other sane man should do the same
KEKAROO this is a man writing this shit?
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>>58962235
I decided to go save them just in case, I might have missed some if he deleted them

>>58962253
that was my first thought
>>58962244
that was my second thought
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>>58962253
>>58962267
I could bet that this guy was molested as a kid, and it would be a safe bet indeed.
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>>58962235
Damn, I forgot spacebattles is full of schizos and degenerates screaming they're not. A literal hell that has no middle ground
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>>58962267
last one (accidently reposted the earlier posted one so I deleted)
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Anime Brock would agree to get laid btw
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>>58962253
A black man.
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>>58962306
he sounds like our little black jew friend, hilarous, he just needs to post some vore art
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>>58962306
The thing that gets me about people like this is the lack of self-awareness
Absolutely incomprehensible
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>>58962235
Honestly I agree with this guy's logic. Pokemon rights shouldn't exist except as a means to support Human rights. Pokemon shouldn't have their own rights by any means at all. They should be seeking to support humans by any means necessary. It's asinine to think otherwise.

There's no reason for pokemon to have the right to vote when they'll just vote for what their trainer voted for. And if they didn't vote for the same thing then it's evidence they didn't deserve the right to vote in the first place.
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>>58962431
did you quote the wrong thing?
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>>58962469
No. I'm reapplying the logic to another equally marginalized and oppressed demographic: humans in the pokemon world.
You're a fan of pokemon? Cool: include humans. The only pokemon issues worth discussing are human issues as well in essence.
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>>58962478
Sounds like a joke but you're right, this fandom is divided between the ones that humans are the ones moving the world and the ones who think Pokémon does and that human plots should be from little to none always quoting PMD
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>>58962478
I've never been a fan of PMD, I think the stories are the same as furry fiction. PMD is just humans shaped like pokemon, not pokemon themselves.
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>kemono patreon importer is still broken
FUCK
borne of nutrient has 2 extra chapters
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>>58961943
Perfect for a Mimikyu fleshlight
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>>58962491
In my PMD setting, almost all of the Pokemon there secretly have human souls. That's why they're so human coded.
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>>58961671
The thing is you don't even need to do that. You don't need to try and explain the fantastical parts of fiction because doing so is more immersion breaking than just not bringing it up. Trying to quantify the power levels of everything is a relatively recent trend that ends up turning fantasy and fiction into math.
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>>58962213
Luffy isn't rewarded for disrespecting powerful people. He's rewarded for kicking the shit out of powerful people. Every time he hasn't been able to kick the shit out of the person he's disrespecting his reward tends to a near death experience..
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>>58962283
>Damn, I forgot spacebattles is full of schizos and degenerates screaming they're not. A literal hell that has no middle ground
To be completely fair, so is 4chan.
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>>58962710
Luffy's reward for standing up to authority is FREEDOM. People tend to look at him as a superhero or a dipshit, but the truth is he's a revolutionary. Everywhere he goes he goes out of his way to topple corrupt power structures, simply because good people that showed him kindness can't thrive where they are - even if in the short term he's imperiling them. Dude gave absolutely zero fucks about the consequences of breaking the face of a Celestial Dragon, because at that moment he NEEDED to be shut up and sat down for the cruelty he'd shown to the fish-people.

He's unironically the best way to write an idiot protagonist, and the secret is he's not actually an idiot - he just only cares about what matters to him, to the exclusion of all else. Gun X Sword also does this very well.
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>>58962739
>Spoiler
Wait, wasn't that mostly a vengeance story. Weird ass final tho
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>>58962813
>Wait, wasn't that mostly a vengeance story.
Yes but it takes different forms for different characters. The MC and his rival are the only ones who are specifically out for vengeance on Claw and the show is double based because Van gets his revenge and straight-up kills him with no frills.

But Van was also an idiot in the sense that he legit didn't care about ANYTHING except vengeance, he was so single-minded it brought him through every challenge and obstacle.
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>>58962739
I'm aware of all this, but the difference is that what Luffy does isn't disrespect. Its taking action, which wouldn't really fit as the bingo. He beats the shit out of people. But when he can't beat the shit out of somebody then he ends up suffering the consequences and is never rewarded for just 'disrespecting' somebody. Off the top of my head he got stabbed and buried alive by Crocodile and then later mummified and thrown off a building by him in round 2, he got frozen solid by Kizaru, and most note worthy is that punching that Celestial Dragon got his ENTIRE CREW ass blasted so hard none of them even saw each other again for two years.
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>>58962841
I would actually agree with you that Luffy isn't actually "rewarded" most of the time for that in an obvious sense. I mostly wanted to harp on it because it's such fucking good messaging that rarely gets focus among OP fans.

But half for the sake of a good argument I would still argue that, even if it's not to his benefit precisely, there is still a Narrative Reward for taking those actions, because his own acts end up inspiring others to act in turn, which ultimately leads to the Straw Hats prevailing. So even if he's not getting a direct positive outcome from striking at people in power, it's leading to betterment in the long run for the people suffering beneath them, because it's The Right Thing To Do.
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>>58961424
The "MC Disrespects powerful people and is rewarded" square needs to be rephrased. Perhaps "Bigshots react positively to being disrespected by MC"? Better reflects the silverisms
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>>58962921
Just change it to "s/he's not like the others", that's how Jasmine fell for the genetic freak in their first meeting and why Lance thought he was the only kid worth something in the entire world, because he didn't suck his dick and acted like an asshole
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>>58962213
I mean more in the sense of fanfiction rather than the actual thing. Though Naruto disrespects authority most of the time in canon too.
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>>58962992
The stupid nicknames and lack of honorifics? Eeehhhh, I wouldn't count that to be honest, Inuyasha, Seiya, Yusuke and Damian Wayne do it more and worse though I guess is more notorious with Naruto since he's a literal soldier
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>>58962491
It's not surprising, it's a crossover series that replace humans from mystery dungeon with pokemon.
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>>58962861
Well, its true if you look at it in that sort of way.
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>>58962137
I thought it was calling out Silver SI fic, where MC badmouths everyone and is praised by it somehow
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>>58954699
>TQ What examples come to mind?
For Pokémon Fanfics, Borne of Caution’s Moore fight’s gotta be my favorite.

But thinking outside of fanfics? I think I fell in love with “anime fights” when I watched Naruto vs. Gaara for the first time. I was pretty young and rarely watched the show so I had a faint idea of what was going on, but something about that fight just hooked me. From there, Naruto vs. Pain and Invincible vs. Conquest (I know it’s not anime) are fantastic to me. The momentum swings and the beautiful back and forth, not to mention the high stakes, all stand out to me. It’s almost like I want to emulate the spirit of those fights, not the fights themselves.
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>>58961669
I was thinking of trying some one-shot where my mc and the one from FF1anon's Biomon meet in some place between the fictions of both and simply rest before they return to the misery. Basically just a break from the bullshit, if only for a little while. But I just don't have the time as I'm trying to mainly reword/retool my wip to be more consistent as well as read PokeNormal and PoPT.

Maybe it's weird of me, but sometimes I imagine how much a (thread)fic would change if they had Vahnzimmig there, but I kind of stopped doing that as in almost every single instance he would be an active liability and assuming the protagonists of their respective works wouldn't do the reasonable thing and put him in some sort of therapy/insane institution/asylum for crazy Pokémon:
In CL, he would just not be strong enough and his fits would be undesirable in such a journey.
In IMO, he would at best just be a weak party member and only in a handful of situations provide some trivial help. (Like instantaneously knowing She- who-will-not-be-named is bad but that literally doesn't change anything.)
In PoPT, well, it's a damn societal breakdown and Vahn would be quite demanding. Ian would probably consider releasing him after like a week or something because lil' bro would not stfu about food.
In PokeNormal, he would... maybe this would be the only fic where he'd be not completely useless, but that's only due to Grand Eye, Estranged and Fox (internal voices.)
I haven't read Spice and Fox, Penfriends or Mahogany yet (sorry bro's :(. I just don't have the time.) so I couldn't tell you, but he'd be annoying there too.
Also, he would (if I understand them) absolutely HATE Pokéballs. I think the 'Mon turns into some sort of energy inside them? Well, this would probably mean he's seeing eternity, which he (is beginning to) hates.
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>>58954699
How do you feel about flashbacks? Like a whole chapter about MC's childhood story they had
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>>58963853
The writer has to make me care about that moment in the past ahead of time for me to bother reading the flashback. Doesn't matter if it's relevant to the current moments in story, if there was no teasing and buildup to the flashback I'll skip it.
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>>58963971
The writer has to make you care about his whole work anyways, it doesn't matter if its a flashback or not
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Has a fic ever gotten you the feels because all the characters you like got tragic or bittersweet endings? I've had it with games and books I like but not yet with a fic.
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>>58963721
>Mahogany
That reminds me, here's the first chapter of the draft where the mc is 16, instead of 10: https://rentry.org/Mahogany16
7K words and I'm currently also 7K words into the uncompleted second chapter.
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We need more Pokémon that are actually aliens
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What is IMO?
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>>58964811
In Mine Opinion.
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>>58964810
there are the weirdly feminine aliens from that Pokestar Studios movie
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>>58964811
A threadfic titled In Mine Own
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/151934926

Follows a boy Kuzey and his Charcadet Crest as they get involved in a mystery about a pair of girls with identifical faces but no memory being chased by an OC Team faction. Very plot and character-focused and features a lot of the X&Y cast, but other regions like Hisui and Paldea are also involved.
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>>58964282
At the risk of revealing my powerlevel a close friend of mine wrote a GR15 fanfic about an elderly Blue Fast mourning the death of her wife Purple Smart, and then dying at the end after overcoming her grief.

I was a teenager back then admittedly but the themes hit me pretty hard.
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>>58964282
Before it got turned into the writing general in /vt/, the abuse threads had some fine works. Omelas was the good shit.
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>>58964282
Yes, but they have all been vore fics. Sometimes its unclear who is going to survive to the end of a vore fic and so sometimes you end up hoping for a character you like to be alive by the end. By the nature of the fics it's usually a fleeting hope, but it does happen so even if their doom seems certain you still keep rooting for them. Just last night I read a fic like that where this one girl was seemingly the only nice person the loser MC had met recently. She did not make it.
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>>58964877
It would be funny if she's a non-pokemon actual alien, and since she can speak the human language she just got a job. Although, maybe her being a pokemon would be funnier. If only in a meta sense for fics with pokemon oppression or something like Hyphen where the MC is hiding the fact they're a pokemon. The MC is all worked up and then they meet someone who completely invalidates their fears, making them feel silly and also crushed.
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>>58964282
I’ve said it like every thread recently but Diaphanous Perception wrecked me all the way through
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>>58964810
Out side of outer space Pokémon; like Clefairy, Deoxys, or Elgeym.
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>>58962235
we need more chud fics
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>>58965742
I considered writing a fic where the MC was gender bent because arceus didn't want them fucking everything in sight once isekai'd.
It would have been a parody of transfics, and the MC wouldn't actually want to be a girl, but also wouldn't care too much, and would be perving on girls and messing with boys, but it seemed too close to pure smut when I got to outlining ideas.
I still think it would be funny to see how the community would react to a trans MC that isn't actually trans.
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>>58962283
Although I haven't red the fic itself, I'm waiting on you other anons to report on it. Reading the authors comments and what other people have to say on his fic is crazy. It feels like he's somehow taking his own fic out of context.
Like, not matter what her end goal is she instituted a point system to show her favor and mutilates the people who she disfavours. She's crazy and just as bad as whoever she replaced.
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>>58965986
Jeff...
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Hot off the presses are two new Prince of Po Town chapters. "The Pirate and the Prince" parts 1 and 2, featuring the battle that decides the fate of Po Town in the war with Sinclair's pirates and Team Skull. Kind of fitting there's a Mina pic and the TQ is about battles when I get to post my first full 6v6 fight in the story

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/210855876
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>>58965986
That's what the majority of what men would be like if they got magically genderswapped.
Hell, that's literally just Ranma. Half the time the dude doesn't care when he gets swapped and takes advantage of it to fuck with people and get benefits for himself.
Honestly, it's plain insane that such a mild portrayal is nowadays considered controversial and even a "parody".

>I still think it would be funny to see how the community would react to a trans MC that isn't actually trans.
They'd still call him trans. Just like how those niggers say futanari is trans, and traps are trans, and genderswap is trans, but they're also offensive to trans and fetishization and more retarded shit.

Everything so fucking dumb and so fucking retarded. I hate it.
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>>58965986
>>58966065
The MC of the comic "Out-of-Placers" is that, sorta. Guy gets forcibly trooned by being turned into a female alien creature, and the story deals with a bunch of consequences of that.
Funnily enough a bunch of the people commenting on the official site for the comic constantly misgender the guy and treat him like a woman even though he'd hate that.
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>>58966107
>>58966065
Thanks for reminding me that Misfile finally ended.
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>>58966107
>alien
way to bury the lede anon
they're not!Skaven
its furry, blatantly furry
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>>58966206
Well yeah, the whole comic is the author's sfw furry freak outlet
Of course it's about a fetish, the main character is trooned out
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>>58966127
>Misfile
I don't know what the bigger flashbang to my psyche is. Hearing Misfile being mentioned in 2026 or learning that it evidently has still being updated until recently
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Since we're not surviving tomorrow, have you guys used original characters from the the anime or manga? I thought about using Yellow but I don't know if using would attract shipping autists like Serena does so I've been playing with the idea
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>>58966500
I was thinking on using Matori, Giovanni's secretary, because I like her
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>>58966063
I came.
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>>58966500
>have you guys used original characters from the the anime or manga?
It would be weirder to not.

>but I don't know if using would attract shipping autists like Serena does
Man, you guys worry about the dumbest shit.
Who cares if that happens? If anything, if it happens, use it to your advantage. Play the victim. Earn yourself pity points.
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>>58966500
How were you planning on using her? You say you worry about shipping autists, but to be honest, 99% of the time that happens is because the person using the "shipping autist bait" character is going out of their way to purposely use the character in a way to poke the hornet next. They never use the character because they want to, only because they wanna piss off other people.
If you're like that you deserve the autists jumping on you.
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>>58966500
I don't think I've used any that weren't in the games in any capacity yet, but I'm not intrinsically opposed to it. My Brock's gonna be closer to the anime's than the game version because I like that guy, fuck strict adherence to a single canon.

And I'd say go for it with Yellow. I'm not even sure most of my readers have picked up the hints that my Serena's bumping uglies with Emma
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Before things get chaotic tomorrow, are there any isekai fics where the person actually still has the console they played Pokemon in? The console doesn't have to have any special powers, but its just straight up a regular console that the MC brought them with.
Might be interesting if it hasn't been done already, might write one myself if it hasn't.
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>>58966710
That's common in chink fanfics, at least the ones I read in webnovel
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>>58966710
Not a big deal because all player characters have the current Nintendo console in their rooms
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>>58966710
I had this idea where Pokémon Earth MC finds an Arceus phone that fell from the sky like the death note that has our world knowledge
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>>58966782
Same concept, but it only has access to Ao3 and he uses it to spread batshit rumors about the sexual preferences of gym leaders/champions
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Since the world is ending tomorrow, anybody wanna admit they have story where a human transforms into a Pokemon and gets adopted into a Pokemon family they've been hiding from me?
>>58966710
In my middle school fanfic my SI's best friend played Pokemon in-universe. It was treated as basically Madden or Guitar Hero, and my SI was too good for it.
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>>58966500
>her
???
This whole time Yellow was a girl?
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>>58966831
This Weightless Fall has something like that. It's not the entire focus, but it might be what you're looking for.
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>>58966924
Thank you, I'll give that a chance
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>>58966548
I forgot she was a real character and not some cringy oc Game of Champions made up.
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>>58966710
Borne of Caution
its his phone with an emulator though
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Should I just tag my fic self-insert even though it isn't? They don't know what I'm like.
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>>58967178
Yes, do you honestly think all these SI characters act like that irl? That's just there to get more views
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>>58967178
A lot of people use the self insert tag even though it's a character insert. The distinction doesn't seem to matter much anymore.
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>>58967250
>>58967264
And the one time it did mean Self-Insert it actually caused whiplash in the community. TMET's protag was revealed to be a gay middle-aged neckbeard and the author had a public crash out because he was afraid he was doxxing himself with his character's background.
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>>58967275
Really? His past characters/SI in older stories were gay and angsty as well.
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>>58967178
If it's an Isekaijin why not? Besides who gives a fuck it's not like its important either way. Just do what you want to do and don't think so much about audience reaction, unless you're doing this for a job like Fuggman does.
Seriously people need to stop being insecure about this, this is barely actually advice. Instead of asking if you should do something, how about asking how to go about doing something.
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>>58967292
If there's an extremely small change I can make to the tags that'll get my story in front of more eyes I don't think asking about it is a bad idea. I don't want to do this as a job, but I do want my stuff to get read by as many people as I can get
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>>58967317
Maybe I'm wrong but aren't the SI tag and meta knowledge the best way to get views even if they story is trash? Like look at the entire isekai genre after the 10s
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>>58961669
It'd be interesting to see. Maybe just a collection of oneshots showing the MC of one story popping into another, or maybe a seasonal special like with valentines or christmas.
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>>58966500
Ash gets mentioned as an easter egg twice in my fic so far, neither by name. One is a news article surrounding a controversy surrounding the morality of the Galar fossil mons and how one was on the winning team of the Masters 8 Champion. Another was during an online argument about which pokemon champion was the best. When somebody mentioned the Masters 8 champion being from Kanto another person pointed out that he was the Alolan champion.

Have possibly more planned.
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>>58961727
Why? Cucking Spice and Fox MC I can understand since he's a cuck and he failed to protect Braxien, but nobody else deserves it.
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>>58966710
I haven't left this thread in weeks, what is happening tomorrow?
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>>58967511
War with Iran probably.
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>>58967519
Again?
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>>58967505
>controversy surrounding the morality of the Galar fossil mons
They've been fucking around with life since Gen 1, would that even matter?
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>>58967526
Well for one thing the Galar fossils are in constant agony and have their organs showing.
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>>58967627
Gotta love science autists in Pokémon, they can do whatever the hell they want and everything is legal and sponsored
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>>58967627
This. Most fossil mons are just, if we were to use some theoretical real science, clones of ancient species. The Galar fossils are Resident Evil levels of monstrous experiments with a cute coat of paint. The fish has its head upside down and can't breath, one is suffering constant hypothermia because half of its body can handle the cold the other half produces, and another is literally the lower half of a bisected body with a head grafted onto the tip of its tail.
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>>58967650
Which legendary is the patron deity of scientists that keeps protecting them so much ?
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>>58967507
Your pain amuses me.
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>In order to even properly cuck me you'd have to read my fanfic and gain an appreciation for its characters first
You fool!
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>>58967519
War in Orre
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>>58967511
Pokémon day (and Gen 10 announcement)
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>>58966553
Glad you enjoyed it anon. I am legitimately proud of it.

Now if only I could stop myself from absolutely dumpstering someone on QQ who has the memory of a goldfish.
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>>58968148
How many hours left? If greek based I will read the Percy Jackson books to get some ideas
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>>58968274
6.5ish hours. Leaks said Southeast Asia, but I’d prefer Greece.
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last for poop
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How will today's direct affect power levels?
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>>58969363
When they reveal the new gimmick its going to somehow break the lore in new and annoying ways I'm sure.
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>>58969176
It ain’t just mud slap, boyo!
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>>58969363
SIOCs are about to get a massive buff from being the first to discover the new gimmicks and pokemon.
What's that? The gen 10 region was already settled by humans and it has a rich history of using the gimmick dating back hundreds if not thousands of years? I'm going to ignore that, sorry sweety.
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>>58969465
I was already looking forward to using Megas from ZA my MC didn’t know about, gen 10 mons will be even better for that.
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>>58969465
Funny, I was thinking about doing something similar with an oc rediscovering mega-evolution after the previous civilization was wiped out three thousand years ago.
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>>58969465
how about MC traveling back in time and introducing Pokeballs, making him the creator and creating a bootstrap paradox?
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>>58969691
Of course, the MC must be the source of everything. It wouldn't do for that credit to go to anyone else. Hell, the MC boostrap paradox'd his own isekai by creating Arceus. Everything's actually a bootstrap paradox, shamalamadingdong.
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Holy cringe
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>>58970794
I want the dog and nice to see Orre
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>>58970794
Smooth ass looking fuckers. Where's the edge?
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>Roy caught Fugg
Is it getting the same slander as Suikune? People here love ro mention that when talking about power levels
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>>58972694
Powerlevels are whatever I want them to be and I will ignore canon whenever I wish.
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>>58972694
First requires people to care for Horizons.
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>>58973247
To be fair nobody cared about Goh and that still didn't help Suikune
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>>58970794
The pomlion is cute, as is the lizard. The grass starter isn't catching me, I'll need to see their evolutions.
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>>58970794
Same vibes
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also
new Rotom not-sound type form for Pokopia
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>>58973598
>he wasn't lying
fuuck
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>>58972694
>respecting anime power levels
Fugg being caught is all the more reason not to
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Alright, I got an idea
I'm going to write out all the smut scenes that come to my head and see if it's worth writing a story around them once I get them on digital paper.
Worst case I have a bunch of individual pokesmut that works together.

I haven't posted stories, but I'm guessing A03, QQ, and FFN are the places I can post it.
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>>58973598
Like no one ever was did it first
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>>58973843
I don't think FFN allows NSFW even if you can find it there. SV is similar to QQ, but I think they also have restrictions?
Someone else would have to comment on that.

A03 and QQ are good for anything, I read a Mushoku fanfiction on QQ were the main character was sexing up Sylphy at 7 and it was quite long and engaged with
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>another sea region
Damn, I wanted a snowy one
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>>58974324
but there's underwater kino
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>>58974324
I want a desert with underground biomes. Surf on dunes, Dive under sand.
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>>58974379
That would be cool too, iirc the Dune movie was a super hit though maybe I'm wrong because I don't watch Zendayaslop
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>>58969176
So we have confirmed they have buttholes.
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>>58974734
we knew that long ago
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>>58974734
I’ve done a lot of hands-on research into this, it’s always been true
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>>58974734
What, you thought Red's Clefairy manga wasn't canon in a multiverse franchise?
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>>58974351
This just makes me want to go back to Fontaine
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I'm having my aurafag punch Rayquaza in the face and beat it btw since it's a fucking fraud
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Tera is the strongest btw but how do you even write it?
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>>58975374
The entire animeverse is nothing but frauds, they got dominated by Leon of all people and their legendaries are regularly chumped by nets.
I'm convinced the animeverse is one of Arceus' jokes where he set its level cap to 20 just to see what would happen.
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I think I need to rewatch some episodes of Brave and the Bold because I'm gearing up to write a conflict between Palafin and Malamar as part of this much larger fic I've been writing and it needs to be hammy.
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>>58975709
Zinnia survived a stabbing and hyperbeam to the face, legendaries are fucking frauds everywhere and then there's Diantha's kid
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>>58975833
Zinnia is a feral human who probably has powerful pokemon genes in her blood thanks to her ancestors fucking their dragons. That and Pokespe Fugg probably didn't want to actually kill a descendant of the lorekeeper he once saved the world with.
But the legendaries are too often frauds, yeah. I really wish that wasn't the case, but alas Gamefreak insists on directly involving major legendaries in each game.
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why do these threads always end up in powerscaling discussion?
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>>58975943
Only way to survive right now
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>>58975943
Shonen franchise
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>>58975943
The higher your level the stronger you are in the games
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>>58975943
My dad can beat up your dad type shit
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>>58975943
Autism.
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>>58975943
Digimon RAPED and GAPED us
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>>58975580
I dislike the anime
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>>58975580
You write it however you want to write it.
Me, I don't write it. Paldea doesn't exist to me aside from a few mons I like.
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>>58975943
Pokemon are the most powerful fictional characters currently in media, with the sole exception of Satoru Gojo of course.
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>>58976312
I've never felt so BETRAYED
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Since the new games were announced, would it be cool if a fic made it so Alola and the new region were close together?
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>>58976485
Unless there was some evidence in the games to back it up I would think less of a fic for bunching them together.
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>>58973247
There's also the fact that even the people who like Horizons say that the powerlevels are absolutely and utterly shit. It's Shitneys on drugs.
>>58973391
That caused a melty because we had 20 years to look back on as a frame of reference and then somehow all the rules that'd been established and carefully and strictly followed magically didn't apply to Go so that they could keep trying to shove him down our throats.
>>58974324
Maybe in Gen 11 if the Ohmori getting kicked out thing is true.
I seriously wonder why Ohmori is so obsessed with vacations and tropical settings. Maybe it is yet another thing rooted on his daddy/mommy/family issues. They never took him to vacations as a kid so this is how he copes.
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>>58974351
Now I remember Pokélantis was a thing, I really hope we get a new ancient civilization like Atlantis instead of more celestica wank.

I loved that movie as a kid
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>>58977211
Where is this celestica wank?
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>>58977427
In my schizo headcanon, got a problem with that?
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>>58977427
All the "I can fix him" VoloxAkari stories
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>>58977211
There's also the Abyssal Ruins from Unova
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>>58975709
My isekai protag has a System and can limit break past lv 20
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>>58970794
There is already a fire pomeranian in Casette Beasts called Pombomb.
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>>58974324
>winds and waves was real
Welp, I'm never leaving this thread again. Tired of leaks.
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>>58974324
Pokemon Russia or Canada would be cool.
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>>58978682
I remember thinking the same about England, then Galar happened
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>>58978682
Weird version names but I'd play it
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>>58978682
I could imagine ice types everywhere, lots of gopnik grunts, war tensions as an international group of countries slowly encroach, and decayed but holding on after fall-of-empire vibes. Would be interesting.
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>>58978991
Tunguska Event causes space time distortions or Dungeons to appear region wide. These afflicted areas are filled with strange pokemon and lucrative loot making them attractive to explorers and looters while factions from inside and outside the region seek to control some of the more stable and reoccurring areas.
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Since gen 10 is going to be set in a SEA based region, we should see an influx of passport bro fics.
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Which Pokemon would your MC impregnate?
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>>58979916
His beautiful wife, and nobody else.
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>>58979916
Trick question. Humans can't get Pokemon preggo.
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>>58979916
Spice and Fox's Braxien. After he saves her of course.
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>>58979916
Entire team.
Yes, it's a harem.
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>>58979916
Gotta Catch 'em All means ALL
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>winds
So we're getting a flying city or airship level, right? Imagine Pokémon Solaris
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Gen 10 getting announced has somehow made me more "free".
Like, I can think more clearly about my ideas? I'm not sure how to explain it. I feel oddly energized and with more desire to work on my projects. Like if a weight got lifted off my back about "Pokemon" as a whole but specially so in regards creating fanworks and things related to it.
Am I weird? Anyone else feeling this feel?
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>>58980760
Logically I feel like the teeth should at least do some incidental scratches or punctures even if they fold out of the way. Also 'The swallowing began' is a lazy transition. There should be some short, punchy sentences of the Seviper knocking her over and the initial physical contact prefacing it. Probably some real desperate fighting before the head even goes in. Come on, anon.
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>>58980741
No, with every new game the world grows and so does your scope as a writer
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>>58980813
Sorry Shaun but Arc-Suit Cynthia possess a fragment of Arceus' power so Aldith would job just by feeling her aura
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>>58980861
Nope, she even has a halo
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I'm surprised we're still alive
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>>58980810
Nah, I don't mean it like that. I'm not particularly excited or looking forward to any new things or thinking "I can't wait to see what gen 10 adds I can play around with".
It's more of a "I can finally move on" sorta feeling.
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Funny thing I’ve noticed after posting a double-chapter battle is a lot of people are dropping “likes” on the 2nd part when it’s confirmed the hero wins before they put a “like” on the first part.

So in essence, if you’re writing to get engagement, your readers will decide they’re enjoying your content as long as the hero wins.
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>>58981727
If you post multiple chapters people will concentrate on commenting on the latest one.
It's the same all over. It's easier to make one comment rather than two and the content of the second chapter will be fresher on the mind.
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>>58981752
I specifically said “likes” not comments. I’m able to see “likes” in the sequence with which they were placed, and a vast majority of the “likes” have been given to part 2 before they’re out to part 1 (moments later). Which is why I wanted to inform people of the interesting trend I was seeing.
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>>58981954
>Two chapters are published at the same time
>Read the first chapter
>Read second chapter immediately
>Give it a like because I'm still on second chapter page
>Close tab I already gave a like pressing back on the tab is too much effort and by giving a like to this "second chapter" I've already given my appreciation as a whole
Same principle.

Next time post the chapters individually and I guarantee you none of this will happen again.
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>>58982003
I think you’re forgetting the part of threads on SB and QQ where the like button is at the end of each chapter, so people are literally liking the second chapter, scrolling up, and liking the first retroactively moments later. Meaning they purposefully passed up on showing their enjoyment (a largely retarded, vain thing overall, I’ll grant you) until they knew the end result. Mind you, I’m taking note that 20%ish of readers are hitting that button before they get to part 2 (and these all have the same time in between, coincidentally enough).

It confirms a suspicion that’s been passed around this thread for a while but I wanted to see for myself (the protag MUST win). Regardless, this note was intended for authors who do care about engagement.
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>>58981695
Mm, not really then.
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>>58982091
>My protagonist loses his first fight
Well at least he wins his second.
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>>58982300
Honestly yeah, that can be equated. At least the 2nd fight has stakes (although I had to engineer the opponent’s team for the MC to counter).
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>>58982366
Well I had both fights be pretty short, and in the second he saves Clair who he lost his first fight to, against a wild pokemon who ambushed them and got a lucky hit in.
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The possible hoverboard sounds like a cool idea ngnl, better than cyclizar bikes
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>>58982582
I still think about how we never see a single person in S/V riding a Cyclizar. Literally not one.
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>>58982582
It's pretty retarded because at the end of the day you know the real reason for it to exist is not because they didn't think "wouldn't it be cool if your Pokemon could pull a carriage?" but because they're too incompetent and too lazy and too cheap to properly implement following Pokemon and riding your Pokemon. Despite somehow them getting it perfectly in Let's Go just to them fuck it up every single time afterwards.
And of course they have to fucking shoehorn Rotom on it again too further diluting the concept and making it feel artificial and forced as fuck.
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>>58982608
There's a statement to be made where Rotom is being shoved into every electronic like how AI is being done in the same retarded way.
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Die already so I can shill my story in the new thread.
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>>58982858
Nobody is strictly enforcing the one shill per thread limit, shill this thread and then shill next thread you bastard.
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>>58982876
But I want to go sleep anon.
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>>58982900
Then don't bitch about it and go to sleep.
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>>58982858
Bump other threads or reach the limit bro, I'll help you.

DEVON BAD
LYSSANDRE REDEEMED
GIOVANNI NICE GUY THAT CARES ABOUT ORPHANS
LOANSHARKS GOOD AS MAYOR OR SOMETHING
JEETA A FRAUD
RAYQUAZA A BIGGER FRAUD
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>>58982918
I will make Geeta a love rival in my imaginary fic.
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>>58982900
You're not gonna miss anything, go to sleep and shill tomorrow.

Why the fuck are we still alive anyways? It was the Gen X reveal
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>>58982907
>>58982918
>>58982951
But what if I want to sleep but I also want to bitch and whine about as much?
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>>58982993
Easy, dream about bitching and whining.
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Cultivate aura
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>>58982993
We can always talk about aura, Invincible Pidgey-sama and guns if that makes you happy, you'll bitch and get sleepy
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>>58982858
Shilling off one chapter will not bump your overall reader numbers long-term. Continued consistency and excellence (on a fanfic level so it’s not a high bar) will gain you readers.
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>>58983037
I feel like ISEKAI is the much bigger topic the past many threads. It's always 'how to shot isekai, what if I write a story that is isekai, what if isekai, I have this really cool idea for an ISEKAI story' etc. etc.

>>58983077
That one mildly upset anon is shilling enough for me already.
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>>58983086
It was actually the debate about SI and character insert, what's the difference between them and how people hate real SI stuff following TMET's cras hout
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>>58983137
Bump has been hit. We can talk about it in the morning.
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>>58983137
Sorry, yes, SELF INSERT is the correct terminology. Way more charged than 'isekai'.
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>>58983148
We use isekaijin when talking about SI so that probably got you confused
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>Friend I didn't realize was keeping up with my fic tells me they like it
Brightened up my whole day.
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>>58983199
I haven’t had the friend part, but fellow writers complimenting the story does more for me as a writer than anything else will.
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I just updated my fic yey.
Now this is gonna be a funky question: what's some fanfictions that use Pokemon as an element in a different setting entirely? Not like a crossover, but a "what if" or a worldbuilding project kind of deal, like that ancient /tg/ thread about what if WW2 Pokemon. Not asking if good or bad, but where these kinds of fiction exist.
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page 10, new thread
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