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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?
>Thread question:
What made you choose those 'mons to appear in your fic?
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Chapter 19 of Spice and Fox is out. Next one on the 15th.Now I sleep.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/21307454/chapters/207657051
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>>58984211
>TQ
For Ian in PoPT, it was a bit of a weird process. I needed him to be able to ride something and I wanted something that could use Grass moves that wasn’t Gengar (cuz Gengar’s too strong desu). The Bulu blessing idea came not long after and it really helped the whole story grow (pun slightly intended). The Fire Type was originally gonna be a Magmortar but it just didn’t fit right with what I was doing. Pyroar ended up taking the spot after the title came in (gives the right regal flare).Although Pyroar will get replaced eventuallyI seriously neededBlastoisefor “The Plunge” chapter, everything else came after. Also gave “rival” vibes to Ian that I wanted even though the Squirtle line is fucking based.
Tyrunt was legitimately too fun to brainstorm, and once I got the whole Alpha thing down I started having too much fun with it. Alolan Sandshrew/Sandslash was just a placeholder for half the story but now it’s a permanent staple cuz it’s just too much fun to write battles of.Morgremis probably what I got the biggest plans for long term and could be my most controversial choice all things considered.
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>>58984242
'preciate the steady updates. Can't keep the spicy fox on lockdown for too long with no progress, it's bad for the heart.
>>58984855
Snarly boy is a good fit. I think I'll remember that short scene of Impidimp tag more vividly than anything else in the work. Besides the humiliation rituals, of course
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how do you feel about different versions of the same character meeting each other? like dimensional counterparts
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nah, it's that people literally like when they finishing reading, so if you have back to back chapters the last chapter is going to have the most likes and then go back and like previous chapters if you're lucky.
See https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-celestial-mech-touch.12789 77/ where the first seven chapters were posted in bulk and each chapter has more likes than the last.
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>>58985050
Nothing ever happens
>>58985888
>but at least their honest about loving protagonist wank Isekaijin OCs.
Yep, they like to pretend it's a real self-insert story when writing one but they just use OCs
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>ded thread more than yesterdaydraft or iranian?
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>>58984242
ntr not proceeding smoothly. Hopefully Soren cucks will.
>>58986604
I forgot to press the post button because I just got up.
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>>58986750
I think he means that this thread is slower than it was yesterday.
>>58984211
Sneasel because I like Sneasel and the MC having a Sneasel was originally a core concept of a fic alongside pokemon ecology and genetics. While the other Pokemon I've thought of giving the MC are a combination of ones that'd cause conflict or are also related to pokemon science.
Clair has a Growlithe because I wanted to give her a pokemon that seemed reasonable for a rich girl to have, but isn't hampered by having a weak first stage like Horsea and can be evolved easily. She also has an Arcanine in Stadium an Ampharaos and a bunch of other pokemon. Ampharos will probably appear later.
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>>58984211
>What made you choose those 'mons to appear in your fic?
When I was making Kuzey I wanted a partner for him that would fill a little brother role, who could contrast his more timid personality and be all the ego and bluster of the pair. And since I was setting as being from Paldea, out of all the new Pokemon there Charcadet felt like the best fit for that. It also helps being a more vaguely humanoid Pokemon that can emote, communicate, and act in roughly the same manners as Kuzey, so they can roughhouse and mirror movements with one another and it feels closer to siblings than, like, a pet.
His other Pokemon, though most aren't revealed yet, were also to highlight other aspects of his personality. Phylla the Bulbasaur is a bit of a spoiled child, and is there to showcase his ability as a caretaker of Pokemon.
Herri and Mia had a lot of thought put into theirs too but I basically can't comment on anything about them without it being a massive spoiler, excluding Yayamaskaa, who is 100% a thing becauseI imagined Herri posing with a Runerigus and it looked really cool.
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>>58983606
As in fusion without being crossovers? Maybe like this?
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/88914/the-redwood-saga-pokemon-fanfi ctionxianxiaprogression
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>>58987229
>more original setting.
Nigga a cultivation fusion is original but going by your post I guess you mean "realistic" in our world and iirc there was a story like that in spacebattles, can't remember the name tho
nd forget it, I think I found it
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/pokemon-apocalypse-pokemon-our -world.1101381/
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>>58987312
I will not read anything with "cultivation" in the title, and the description for that piece is not particularly heartening. I found the Pokeapocalypse rather good and quite punchy but Game of Champions to be very overblown. I guess what I'm looking for is something I'll have to make on my own.
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>>58987584
I thought Spice and FoxI'm assuming you're spicefag since you updated at the same time there was bitching about not being able to update last threadto be pretty much you're version of that already with the gritter world and custom region. On that note wasn't a Canada/Russian region mentioned last thread.
A northern setting could be cool, or something like the western front.
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>>58987826
This leads into a question of mine actually, something I was told when I was younger writing fanfic, and got brought up now writing my current stuff, is people have said I have a tendency to write official characters "as if they're still in their show."
I have a little trouble explaining it because I'm not sure I understand what they're saying myself, but to summarize the thought seems to be even though I'm writing the characters in more serious and mature situations I still write them with the same spirit, or whimsy I guess, as if they were the actual characters from the source material placed in new scenarios.
And what confuses me is, is that not what everyone does? I know reinterpretations are fun of course, but to me the fun of an official character appearing in a fanfic is to see how this familiar character would behave in an unfamiliar situation. You'd want it to be ABOUT these characters you grew up with and love, and not a different person with the same name, right?
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>>58988051
Ah, the classic In-Name-Only right? Yeah, I got tired of seeing people complaining about that shit in fanfics, like it's a fucking fanfic with a different story so of course the character will be a bit different and shouldn't be a problem as long as you can it's still them
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>>58984211
>What made you choose those 'mons to appear in your fic?
It's funny that you ask this question with that OP pic. I'm actually planning on having a blacephalon appear soon who fights a gliscor in a city with some super-heroics happening.
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>>58988435
What fic, and Will the other UBs make an appearance? I love these guys honestly.
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>>58988560
I haven't shared it yet. I'm over 60K words into it already, but I'm only just getting to the point in the story where I planned to introduce these two.
I'm not sure if I'll use the other UBs, it depends on how far I take the Team Doom idea and if I feel any of them fit with the supervillain motif.
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I remember reading years ago a possible Kingdom Hearts crossover with Colress turning Shadow Pokémon into heartless and the reason why the world fell, don't remember where but it sounded kino.
Any interesting idea you guys had read in the past and want to share?
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>>58988833
Yeah, As someone who has a dislike of shallow and poorly written Isekai/SI stories in the Pokemon world, the idea of a Pokemon Isekai story but done in a Konosuba style teases me when I'm having writer's block with my current WIP. Here are some of the ideas I've toyed around with:
>The protagonist has meta-knowledge, but whenever it comes to actual locations from the games and where valuable items were, they're not there. Maybe even there's a trap instead.
>The MC's traveling partner would be a very proud, very overconfident former gym leader (Clair seems hard-coded for this, not just because she has Aqua-adjacent hair and doesn't wear panties, but because her hubris would clash well with an arrogant meta-knowledge MC).
>MC would have a really strong, really fearsome Pokemon like an Incinieroar, but it's as obedient as Ash's Charizard in the early seasons of the show.
>MC would catch a Dreepy or a Gible, thinking he'll have a badass pseudo-legend at some point, but it just never evolves.
-MC gets a Gardevoir that's madly in love with him but he's not into that (to put it lightly). It cockblocks him when he hits it off with other female characters.
>The Rival that hates him from the get go somehow gets forced into being in the MC's party and the ongoing circus of BS drags the Rival's reputation down with the rest of them.
>MC gets a Legendary/Mythical, but it's mostly useless (but cute, like Meloetta or maybe Victini but its power only works on usefless things)
Some of these are starting to overlap a bit. I was just spitballing ideas in between writing for my WIP. Does anyone else have any gags that fit the tone of this parody of a Pokemon Isekai?
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>>58988833
Grail war with pokemon historic figures has been on my mind.
One of the master servant duos being Volo and heroic spirit Akari.
PokeSpe White using the light stone as a catalyst to summon one of the twin heroes.
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It's fanfic time
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>>58988833
Yeah, that once fanfic about Arceus being the Demiurge and Regigigas killing it so he can end all life and death.
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>>58989155
Sometimes a man penis guides him towards wise decisions, sometimes it guides him to unwise ones.
Either way, follow your heart anon. Follow your heart and write the sloppyist isekaijin cultivation story where the mc impregnates every single pokegirl.
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>>58989253
Gachafag here, I only pull when the character gets me hard or is cute
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>>58988896
From the thread this was taken from there was an idea to have a Voltorb following the MC around and when he thinks there’s a Poke Ball with a valuable item in it, but it’s actually the Voltorb and it blows up. Of course one time an NPC sees a Poke Ball, the MC warns them it’s a Voltorb… And of course it isn’t.
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>>58989417
Stay not jerking off till you get by 'withdrawals' and see how you feel then. Or post your fetish ideas in this thread and we'll critique them. Try writing fetish scenes down to get them out there so you can see later on if they were good enough or just horny thoughts.
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>>58989602
I liked the idea someone else mentioned in an earlier thread of Cynthia taking Dawn to her first nude photoshoot. Although more as Cynthia, being a member of (my) harem using the opportunity to induct Dawn into the harem.
The idea of a man being included into a previously lesbian relationship, where they nor prioritize and fall in love primarily with him is also hot. Although I don't know which two Sinnoh girls I'd choose in that situation, maybe Gardenea and Fatina? The DPP Mom could also be hot but I can't really see Maylene as bisexual in denial who thinks she's a lesbian.
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>>58984211
For Crystal Light:
-Blastoise = Fighter-Hitmonchan = Black Belt
-Chansey = White Mage
-Vileplume = Black Mage
-Wol, Garland, and Sarah are this world's Blue, Red, and Green so they each get one of the Kanto starters. Jane gets Pikachu for Yellow to complete the gen 1 starters.The wild mons they encounter are based on the actual random encounters of the area they are currently in from FF1. The Impidimps were Goblins, the Rapidash was a Crazy Horse, the Marowaks are Skeletons, the Onix is a Giant Worm, etc...Each of Astos's pokemon correlates somehow to his story, and several are from the Hoenn region because Elfland's pokemon population is mostly Hoenn pokemon. Most are also dark types since he is a dark elf. Absol being his ace is foreshadowing disaster, Spiritomb represents the loss of his people, and Hypno is the odd one out of his team because he specializes in sleep curses.
For PokeNormal
-Poochyena and Raticate both represent their trainers in classic pokemon style.
As for the other pokemon,wouldn't you like to know, weatherboy?
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>>58989602
An idea I got from reading Hyphen wanted me to see something with self aware pokemon that has a negative opinion of humans being brainwashed or indoctrinated using friendship raising items like the Friendship or Luxury ball creating an environment inside that indoctrinates the pokemon. The sound of a soothe bell alters their mental state, vitamins, rare candies or other drugs to increase their compliance. Pokemon 'salons' which are actually brainwashing parlors. Pokemon not being able to control their positive reaction to certain stimuli like flavors of berries or smells and being conditioned to like their trainer. Super training made to increase compliance in unruly pokemon. Add onto that some intelligence drain.
They can't be animal-like pokemon, part of the fetish here is the pokemon in question, maybe Astra from Hyphen, being comparable to humans but not being able to overcome the circumstances of their birth as a pokemon. If they have a pokemon village like from Hyphen, they're 100% betraying it.
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>>58987826
I just beat Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team for the first time yesterday andFug is the last boss of the final main story dungeon. He canonically gets some sense slapped into him by two unevolved pokemon +whatever other pokemon you happen to have with you at the time which for me was two tropius I randomly recruited on the way up to fight him.
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>>58987312
I think Crystal Light fits your original description. It's the world of Final Fantasy 1, which is pretty much just legally distinct classic Dungeons and Dragons, but with pokemon instead of monsters. So you got sword and board knights, damsels in distress, potion merchants, hedge witches, dark wizards, and ancient evils all tightly incorporated with living alongside pokemon. I take care in making sure that the pokemon are integrated into the setting and not just slapped into the story for the sake of it.
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>>58989417
Overpower it with autism. I wrote smut for about 2 decades off and on until it occurred to me that two of my favorite series actually fit together pretty well and I challenged myself to try and make a non-lewd story to prove to myself I could. It hasn't always been easy keeping the two separated.
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>>58990314
I said it more as a joke here, personally I prefer nopan girls to also wear skirts. That way there's more of a vouyerism and exhibitionism angle
Besides Clair's bodysuit is sexy enough and I don't see her as an exhibitionist type, although I do think she'd get flustered extremely easily and is prone to jealousy. Although I can't think of what fetishes she'd have. Do you have any ideas?
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>>58990380
A girl that proud makes me think she either has a praise kink, or an embarrassment kink.
But of course I have to throw in my actual fetishes as possibilities which means she should totally be into pregnancy and vore.
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>>58990404
I can see that, especially since her ace is a water type and she uses paraflinch strats. Maybe she'd be into electrocution as well.
>>58990420
With what the above user said, it has to be embarrassment. I can just imagine Clair getting embarrassed and turned on when someone defeats her in a battle, when she tries to flirt he only depends her embarrassment further. She tries to act ice-cold but she actually melts like jelly in your hand.
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>>58990805
I understand that, for me, I want to get to a comfortable place before posting since I'm also working on other stuff. Once I can find that place I feel like I could post and then be able to put my WIP down for a while to focus on other projects.
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>>58990843
Yeah, every other week or so I go back to read through what I've written to make adjustments and corrections, or just embellishments.
There's an increasing number of characters to keep track of even if I'm rotating them in and out of the story.
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>>58990281
Man, I'm gonna read Fox and Spice first, then read your damn fic because I see it all the time and you apparently keep hitting my like points. Even a few threads ago too, you said something I liked but never followed up on reading, but I forgot what it was. Damn...
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>>58990028
Since it appears in Kalos that there was a sort of French Revolution style event that disenfranchised landed nobility that doesn’t get fleshed out, this Kalosian Court of Owls could be the remnants of the aristocracy that pulled together to continue influencing Kalos when they no longer held overt power themselves.
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>>58984211
>What made you choose those 'mons to appear in your fic?
I like them, that is all. That and thematics with characters. A farmer would get Pokemon that help with farms, a fisherman likewise...
>>58990690
Could be a mix but it is Indonesia mostly, I see mention of Philipines elements.
>>58988945
Are some of the Servants Pokemon themselves?
I haven't written much in a while - Pokemon-related anyways. Kinda want to retcon some shit in my fic that only has 4 chapters. How should I go about it - actively edit them, or just let them be and establish changes as I advance?
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>>58991565
Cool, thanks for the interest.
>>58991605
Yes, the majority of battles are an everybody participates affair. The pokemon are party members equal to the human cast, and battles tend to become chaotic brawls with every pokemon and human character fighting. The pokemon are the power houses of course so the humans tend to be more supportive like the MC being a tanky knight who uses his shield to block blows when he can. To be clear, they are still pokemon battles first and foremost but with humans fighting too.
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I'm contemplating continuing my work about Pokemon Shifters. I've framed it as a Fantasy Setting written by someone who lives in the Pokemon World as an excuse to do whatever the fuck I want. Within limitations.
What should the explanation for Pokemon Shifters be?
>They get power from Terapagos' Reality Warping capabilities
If I go this path, powerful Shifters will have advanced forms based on Past Paradox Pokemon, with a Shifter who can assume the shape of Koraidon being their one true leader (with three tribes based on the Paradox Johto Beasts), and the civilized, advanced humanity will steal their powers and integrate it into their tech to create Past Paradox mons in the form of mech suits and drones. Terastalization is a thing that plays a part too.
>They get power from manipulating something akin to life force/mana/Infinity Energy/whatever and it is said that mastering it can induce Mega Evolutions in their transformations
If I go this path, they will be divided into tribes that worship each member of the Weather Trio as a deity in respect to Rayquaza's Mega Evolution and Kyogre & Groudon's Primal Reversion. Only those who have Mastered Mega Evolution can hope to be leaders of Tribes.
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>>58993115
Rich assholes goes into the wilderness and near immediately gets himself killed.
>>58993207
>meme unhelpful answer only.
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>>58993198
Why not both? In both real life and pokemon there are different ways to achieve similar results. Maybe one region discovered one path while in another part of the world another region discovered another.
Random idea I just got, but the Weather region and the Paradox region could be neighbors that are separated just enough that they don't have regular contact with each other. But they could possibly become desperate allies to try and stop the encroachment of the technology region.
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>>58993538
Funny enough, I also thought this sounded like PokeNormal. But its not, because I'm the author of PokeNormal and I didn't write that. Also, a few things are off (PokeNormal isn't short stories but ongoing mystery, and the supernatural weird shit is more monster of the week than Twilight Zone)
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>>58993590
If I do end up heeding your advice, I will likely introduce one concept first, and the audience and characters present could be under the impression that one way is the only way, before introducing the other down the line.
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>>58993630
That's a good idea. Kind of was feeling the same vibe. One region is sort of the 'main' region the story focuses on and the other region can exist somewhere in the world. Maybe as another fic set in the same setting or something, just aways interested in pokehuman fusions. I'm interested in what exactly a shifter is in your setting. Like full transformation, or humanoid pokemon forms, or what?
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How much toilet humor can you take before you drop a fic?
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>>58993711
Shifters can do either full or partial transformations, the latter normally being a result of their transformations influencing their "default" forms to some degree so they may manifest tails or animalistic ears or whatnot because their control of the energies that allow transformation aren't too perfect.
Shifters can indeed transform into multiple Pokemon species, with some restrictions such as how new transformations they acquire must have certain similarities with existing ones, such as sharing a type, or being a regional variant of. In their human/humanoid forms, Shifters can use weakened versions of moves of all their transformations, though they can be made to be stronger if more transformations have the same moves, but are locked into specific moves/movepools as certain transformations.
In the current version, when an existing transformation evolves, it stays as is until the next evolution with no devolution. Some of my main cast members were exceptions to this rule due to the nature of how their transformations worked. I am contemplating changing things and allowing all Shifters to potentially evolve and devolve at will by controlling their energies. (Where if a Shifter has access to a Stage 3, assuming the form of a Stage 1 is "holding back" or it might be possible that they have been weakened and cannot unleash their full power)
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>>58993630
So, it's all comes down to which gimmicks to use; Terasilization or Mega Evolution. I go with Mega Evolution as it applies to life itself, with the guardians being the Aura Trio of Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde. Terasilization is too circumstantial, as it originated from a meteor that crashed on the planet surface millions of years ago (Mega and keystones are created through an exposure of life energy and compatible DNA to stones).
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>>58994062
So basically, Pokémon ReBurst take two.
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>>58984211
how come there are almost no fics where MC is a gym leader?
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The problem with guns in Pokémon is that most use real life models instead of something closer to their world/technology, why waste resources with lead bullets when they can just use energy weapons with various effects?
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>>58994454
it's mostly because of gun autism, not saying it's a bad thing
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>>58994454
Lead is so common and easy to work with that even prehistoric people knew about it.
It takes very little resources to work with lead. It's as easy as milking a cow because all it takes to extract lead are some ore, commonly silver, and a campfire. And what you're left with is a heavy soft metal that you can shape into any form and will never rust or tarnish.
I can't imagine that type energy would be even easier to extract and contain for usage.
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>>58994454
>something closer to their world/technology
you mean like this? I think the anime also used laser guns in some occasions
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>>58993198
I like the idea, let us know when you've posted it
>>58994081
ReBurst fic but it's about a guy trying to destroy the gems to free the Pokemon trapped inside. He has to Burst to defeat whatever evil team is creating/perpetuating their use, and eventually he feels so guilty about how the trapped Pokemon have to live that he lets his partner take over from time to time.
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Is there a general statistic on which region has the least amount of fics written for it? Which region has the most fics written for it?
I'm curious.
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>>58995038
This but it only works with Pokemon you've developed strong bonds with and it's even stronger than regular burst gems because being nice is stronger than being mean. And discovering it is the last beat of the story before the final boss.
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>>58994891
It really depends based on what you are looking for.
People here say there's no fics of swooshie, paldea or ZA but you go and look at AO3 and they all have massive numbers. Kicker is, the great majority will be shipping fics or smut. You know, the sorta stereotypical female fanfic writer stuff.
Unova has experienced a massive upsurge in the past few years but then you notice it's because westerners awakened to train autism thanks to PLA and the typical Plasma/N focused fic has become a relic.
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>>58995052
>let's use the evil corruptive power but without the evil corruption part
It's so dumb when somebody pulls it out of their ass but when it's built up and earned I honestly can't get enough of that shit
still not gonna read Burst though
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>>58995382
If everyone can get the references then it's pointless. They're meant to be for the rare hardcore autist.
And honestly with how segregated everyone is nowadays you could even make your MC throw a literal Kamehameha and half the people won't get it.
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>>58994454
Same reason people use slug throwers (guns with bullets) in Star Wars. Cheaper, easier to make, less red tape, and has a few miscellaneous use cases where they are better (A jedi can reflect a blaster back at you with his lightsaber, but not a bullet. Common shielding is designed around preventing energy weapon damage, meaning they are entirely useless against bullets).
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Okay so normal animals are a thing or they really eat Pokémon?
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>>58996340
I think fish COULD be referring to fish Pokemon? But honestly your canon your rules.
If you're a sucker for rules then no, animals do not exist anymore save for coral and microorganisms. Unless those are Pokemon.
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>>58984211
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/19/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Own
https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/in-mine-own-pokemon.361 45/page-3#post-12345748
Chapter 17 of In Mine Own is up: Days Passed At Home!Kuzey engages Juliana, La Primera, and her most fearsome Pokemon in one-on-one combat! Can they withstand the fearsome onslaught of the Mycelium Menace?!
Ao3 is currently down, but I'll post it there as well as soon as the site is restored.
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>Trying to draw (my interpretation of) Wol.
>Actually somewhat relaxes me despite work bs.
>All the fucking proprtions are off and I've already used pen.
I am a goof.
But fuck it, FF1anon I summon you once more, it may look like shit, but here you go.
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>>58996433
That's a super-rad drawing anon, you should be proud of that. Definitely don't call that shit.
And I'm not FF1anon but I'll always see Wol as the Dissidia Warrior of Light, though sometimes I picture him with the red hair the original sprite had. Your drawing fits the sort of Gaspard-Piccolo fusion face I was imagining Garland with though, since I really just know him by his helmet.
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>>58996450
>Gaspard-Piccolo
Gaston-Piccolo. Damn, I gotta spellcheck my posts more.
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>>58996450
Well, not that anon either, but WoL is supposed to be a genetic freak right?
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>>58996493
>Not even considering the official gaming magazine Nintendo Power's iconic take on the Final Fantasy characters
The only depiction that truly captures the heroism only a midget can achieve.
But for real, that is tight as hell. Admittedly in my head I imagine all the characters pretty anime style, though I have considered drawing the cast in Sugimori style for fun I also don't want to have any official depiction of Wol because I love seeing different interpretations of the same character that people come to. He has very All Might energy here. Honestly, this expression works really well for a scene in the latest chapter. Really captures a 'exhausted but satisfied' look on his face. Very radical. I've been considering linking the Hitmonchan art to the chapter it's associated with, and I might do the same with this if you're cool with that. Someday, when I stop being so lazy.
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>Hyphen updated
>It's another training chapter
>more scarred
Yay...Where the fuck is Steven, Brendon and May!
>That goes for the rest of my team too! They've been helping me every step of my journey to save us all!"
What are you talking about Astra the best arc of the fic literally removed them from play so they wouldn't shit it up and get in the way.
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Too many? In Hyphen's case the amount we currently have. I didn't mind training in Spice and Fox since I was invested in the characters. But aside from some stuff relatively early on or when she captures them, Astra's pokemon are generally not important.
As I said, the Granite Cave arc removed all of them from play and it was the better for it. I'm just not invested in Astra's because they aren't characters and the narrative has done it's best to make it clear that Astra doesn't *NEED* to become champion to make sure her village is safe. It's both too much effort and too little simultaneously, especially since she's still pretty young and even if she evolves into a Gardevoir, Steven still has a lot more experience at being champion and unkown to Astra, is completely willing to help. Sure Astra *should* train, but in the long term her emotional growth and connection to Brendon, May, and Steven is way more important than giving names to her pokemon which as I've said, aren't even really characters. Ironically enough the fic with a pokemon protag, hasn't made me invested in the pokemon she keeps.
Aside from that, this doesn't meaningfully contribute to dealing with any of the threats. Human mad scientists, the evil granny, or whatever Aqua and Magama are getting up to.
Honestly, I'd prefer a montage instead, and maybe some more politics.
In short, make me care about your pokemon journey and pokemon. Then I won't mind training chapters.
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>>58997043
...? I can get in like normal and read stuff
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>>58997024
>protagonist's pokemon are the least interesting and relevant part
Something similar happened with Silver Eyes, but funnier. He went around putting friendly old men into comas and stealing Pokemon because he was supposed to be an edgy antihero that did whatever it took to overcome TR but none of his stolen team ended up relevant to the main conflict at all
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>>58997609
Hilarous how Silver played the ESCALATION game alone because nobody else thought about that even though in OS weapons and attacking the trainer directly were common as fuck, I think only Ash punching him was close enough to play his edgy game
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>>58996450
I suppose I've been a bit too conscious about the way my art looks. I'm out of practice, but thank you.
>>58996493
Damn, for real?
>>58996508
That sounds hilarious.
>>58996895
Yeah, the only inspiration from FF (I've never played them) was that unfathomably chad sprite from the warrior. I did consider making his hair red, but I don't know what happened, but I already wrote some of the red text surrounding (this) Wol. (They're the choruses from I need a Hero, Starman and Can you feel my heart).
>He has very All Might energy here.
I think that's a character from My Hero Academia? Damn, now that I think about it, I don't really know very much. I did use the Superman Starman meme as a reference together with some random plated armour image.
> if you're cool with that.
Oh yeah, I'm cool with that.
Idk why, but if Wol, Emma (as presented by IMO) and Bounvialle Ferris teamed evil would done TODAY.
>b-but my villain is-
Shut up. I said TODAY. Haven't read too far into PoPT to see if there's another HERO character, though I'd suspect Plumeria would fit that bill, and who knows, maybe Derry as well.
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>>58997609
I think that Hyphen's situation is funnier from a story perspective, Silver is a jerk, but Astra is literally a pokemon and Hyphen is ostensibly about the relationship between humans and pokemon. In fact, Brendan's Whismur or May's Lombre is probably more important to the relationship between humans and pokemon than Grovyle, Nincada, Maril, or Swablu. Maybe Aron is important but he's also the newest gotten just at the end of Granite Cave, and is subsequently only a little more of a non non-character than Astra's shiny Swablu.
This is sort of if like Ash was in Silver Eyes, had the same Mewtwo Genes powers and was involved in the plot. But never did anything important and his trauma with the experiments are never addressed.
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Gotta wait 5 turns for that
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not today Giratina
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>>58992910
Depends on how big of a retcon it is. If it's something that was said you can always rely on the unreliable narrator thing to fix it in a later chapter. I did that on my fic, fixed a couple of problems i had with the first chapter
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>>58998828
I guess feeling marginally bad about the results of his actions is good enough.
Oh, he didn't care at all about the lives he took and the suffering he inflicted?
Well, at least he logically knows what he did was bad.
Oh, he doesn't think what he did was bad?
Well, at least he's gone away on a redemption arc.
Oh, his whole redemption arc is really just him stewing in anger because he was manipulated by a weakling and then got bullied by a real legendary, not because he thinks he should have any sense of morality?
Well, at least he uh. Um. He's a good father figure to the clones he created? No wait, that was movie mewtwo, this one's not even that. Uh. Umm. Shit. Fuck.
He's sorta friends with the protagonist so that means he's a good guy? Yeah let's go with that. Everyone loves protagonist moral bias.
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>Everyone loves protagonist moral bias
Silver is the undisputed king. I don't think he ever even apologized to Elm for putting him in the hospital. He owns a mansion and made friends with legendaries but nope, fuck that guy. His best friends got their starters from the man and set out to avenge him but instantly stopped giving a shit once they saw how cool Silver was
I don't think he remembers the other old guy he beat and robbed and gave away his stuff to Green
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>>58998906
To be fair is making an Amoral & Abitrary Dickhead MC on purpose by the Author or is the audience expected to actually consider the character 'Just' or 'Righteous'? Though its not my thing I can understand if they deliberately wanted to write an Asshole MC.
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>>58998955
Nobody can shut up about what a great guy he is. The champion, the canon protagonists, their moms, the professor he beat into a coma, everyone. The only people who take issue with him are villains and Clair so they can get shit on
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>>58996416
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/211408866
The chapter is now up on Ao3 if you prefer reading there.
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Thanks! Hope you enjoy it.
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meanwhile inTLTD...
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>>58999701
I'm sorry IMOanon, but the chapter ended up not being as bad as I thought it'd be so I'll have to read Game of Champions to the end.
On that note, I only thought about it once I started reading the Giovanni/Matori PoV, but the narrative voice is very samey, not only that but despite Red being the default narrative voice it's kind of a weird choice to make him so wordy and so keen on exposition when Red's one defining character throat is that he doesn't talk a lot. Matori is similar in that she's quiet but she yaps the narration inner scene, which is third person limited to her perspective, is so loquacious and talks so much about how cool she is and how she could totally kill Giovanni, it makes her really seem like a Chuuni dork.
On the other hand Gary's narration was actually a bit stand out, but that was more so because of how totally straight he is and his tendency to break out into freestyle rap about how much he loves his Pokemon.
Also, making the Ainu freeman and having them talk in broken English is a very weird choice. Especially since Brock talks normally when he's in character and the first mention we have of the Ainu when we see their section of town is that they're no different from anyone else.
Also this is another fic that has Mr Fuji slander, not only that but it has Mr and Dr Fuji as separate people as well!
Kind of makes me want to see a recursive fanfic where another, more subdued set of protagonists sees Red and Blue from an outside angle, or gets Matori talking, and the more subdued cast is just flabbergasted by how these people think and act. You can really tell this was written by a 14 year old, especially with the author's conception of 16 year olds and also the insecure heterosexuality.
>>59000138
Yes but the Anon said
>Apparently
Meaning he doesn't think his story is NTR but other people do.
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I need a MC who's amoral and everyone hates in-universe
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>I'm sorry IMOanon, but the chapter ended up not being as bad as I thought it'd be so I'll have to read Game of Champions to the end.
nyooooooooooooooEnjoy the read anon, I've never checked it out myself but it'll probably be a long time before I check it out, I've only been reading threadfics so I don't get too many ideas in my head about what the accepted norms/tropes are in Pokefics.
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>I suppose IMO might also count due to the lesbians.
Nah I was >>58994262
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Unrelated to the topic of cucking, who are you guy's waifus? I know we got a Claire fan around here.
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>>59001066
that would be Lorelei
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>>59001066
Her name is Clair.
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>>59001066
BeaIf I have to choose a human
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>>59001066
Sina is very underrated.
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Also valid.
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You’d think it’d be Minabut it’s actually Plumeria.
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>>59001066
I'm more of a shipper than a waifufag when it comes to Pokegirls, but Rika is laser-focused to appeal to me.
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>AO3 down again
Wonder what's happening.
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Thanks, I just finished Pride chapter and will move onto the chapter Character Assassination next. Game of Champions is so off and interesting that even when I find something cringy I only find myself putting it down for a couple of days.
Still it's inspiring and I like some of the ideas it has.
Somtimes it can be pretty funny, like Matori going
>If Giovanni was really angry, he'd ask for the brandy
>"Matori, brandy."
Or when Misty has a water stone strapped to her Staryu since evolutions aren't instant here. Although I don't know if the author at the time realized giving every single character a motivation speach dilutes the factor and makes them seem self-conscious. Although Misty is said to be an egomanic, she came off as insecure because Red is just sitting there and she exposition dumps to him on about why putting herself through humiliation rituals is cool, although Red is kind of cute with hoe helpless he is around women.
They sort of just manhandle him.
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Somebody mentioned deuteragonists earlier so mini Thread Question: for writeanons with larger casts, do you have rankings/assignments for who the most important heroes are, or is it more of an as-needed level of importance through the course of a fic?
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ForPoPTit’s a combo of both. Plumeria’s squad definitely is the main group of principle characters I focus on since the scale is really large and it’s a miracle that readers can keep of track of just the squad honestly.
Certain characters jumped up in importance early on like Sophocles/Slugg and Mina. I figure they’re easier for readers to remember. Guzma, Rook, Tom, and Stompz are really the only others I bumped up in prominence. During the chaos happening in the past few chapters in the story I could’ve had four or five different POVs of things going on but I just stuck to two POVs because then it would’ve been 4-5 chapters long instead of 2. The story could go crazy in scale if I let it so I really try to cut where I can. Prolly cut too much stuff fleshing out Guzma in the lead up to these chapters but that’s probably the biggest flaw of mine I’ve run into.
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>>59002624
Well you don't want to bloat your story too much. Besides adding a PoV doesn't have to be a big thing, if you *really* need Guzma's PoV for something in particular but not the story as a whole, you can just make him a one-off.
Like in seeing how other people butter him up and manipulate his ego.