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New set is so bad nobody even made a new fucking thread edition.
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Upcoming events planned for Paldean Wonders.
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>New set
>Nobody fucking posts a single leak outside of Team Star Grunts before it drops
>All artwork is just fucking re-used
>Dead supporters reprinted just because they expect waifu loyalty will make them desirable (they aren't)
>Nobody posting individual cards they like in the set
>Nobody posting individual cards they think will be good
>Thread gets to page 10 without a single person wanting to make a new one
Yea, this game is so fucking dead. This is objectively the worst fucking pack they've released thus far, and the bar was already pretty low. I feel retarded for blowing just 200 hourglasses on this shit. I wanted to go in blind without leaks, but that was easy since nobody even posted leaks anyway. Then when I opened the packs I realized I should have spoiled myself ahead of time and saved hourglasses.
Also I'm OP of the fucking thread and there's not a single new post yet. Oh nvm one just showed up as I attempted the captcha that ironically only bots can fucking solve.
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>>58963746
They couldn't even bother getting new art for the waifus either. That's how fucking sad this set is. They have fanartists that would literally give them art for free just to have it featured in the game, and they just fucking re-used arts. For the cards that were obviously included purely for the sake of "fanservice."
This set is fucking ass. Going to play a real pocket TCG now before I keep getting angrier.
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>30 packs and no 2 stars
it's over yet again
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I don't care if there's reused art from the physical TCG because I haven't collected pokemon cards since the early 2000s
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>>58963757
I found the incoming event items
https://www.pokemon-zone.com/events/pawmi-paldean-clodsire-wonder-pick /
Is fucking "my parents are dead!" Faggot, that leaves the premium pass items which I guess will be either Nemona or the T freak.
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i was gonna say something about how I would instantly uninstall the game if i pulled this shit, but this pack is so utterly garbage that i might just do it anyway
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Hell yeah
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>>58963771
Black representation is beautiful
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I've been busy going on dates with my work crush and getting stupid drunk for the past couple weeks, so I haven't spent any time playing. What in the FUCK is this set? I thought last set had me disinterested, but GODDAMN, this shit is putrid.
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>>58963791
Did you tongue kiss her yet?
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40 Packs:
>Fa Grunts
>Immersive arven
>Shiny Ex suicune (hopefully still playable)
>Shiny Ex tinkaton
>Bellibolt ex and armarouge ex
Can't really complain but I feel like they should insert a pity. Guarantee at least an ex if you open ten packs at once
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>>58963846
>its not even a different effect, just a new art
>NEW art
SV base set.
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WTF is this set?
I'm a waifu collector, but I don't see the point in getting the same card from ELEVEN expansions ago with reused art. In terms of Pokémon, I don't see any potential in any of the cards (not even for fun decks), so the meta will remain exactly the same as last month.
Did these pieces of shit only hire 1 person to handle the entire expansion? Or why the fuck does it look so low effort?
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Fire pack
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Kek all 7 hits landed on my oricorio
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>>58963878
SV base set too, the immersive is actually new but it doesn't count because those are exclusive of this medium.
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>>58963882
Hell, even the retarded star grunts are reused art.
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>>58963897
I thought his story was the first Pokémon story that was actually competently written when it usually relies on retarded cliches
Sounds like people who seethe about it didn't even play the game
>fujos
Why would they care, he doesn't do anything gay
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>>58963904
>"my parents suck"
Yes they do, his mom/dad neglected him his whole life
This isn't a "mommy and daddy didn't allow me to do something dangerous UGH they should die" situation, his mom/dad was genuinely cruel to him
>"my parents are dead"
He was literally in denial about it until the very end and then got over it basically instantly
Neither of these are common cliches
Be honest, you only read a story synopsis and assumed the most generic shit didn't you
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What an absolute nothingburger set. I rolled 1 10x for the sake of it but I'll just complete the 4ds with normal packs and move on, don't even care about FAs. How are they fucking rushing a digital card game so bad they need to push out shit like this? At that point you might as well let FP last 2 months.
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SV gave one last shart before being dumpstered for Gen 10 kek, screw Paldea
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Opened 1 ten pack for the sake of it. Interestingly pulled 2 of those fuckers, but there is like no reason to play this when Entei exists, right?
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>>58963352
How so
Part of the power of Mega Venusaur is that it technically does 130 per turn and can force a coinflip on the opponent that can make them miss at least once turn
Aside from Fire decks, the only cards that it has consistently worse chances against are Ogerpon and Arceus
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That is still Fantastical Parade. This is pretty up there though. You just know they want to fuck people out of 24 Hour WPs unless they pull out the wallet.
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I literally created an alt to be able to complete this set and I genuinely think I might skip it. The 2* cards I want most are Nemona and Arven, and I free pulled Nemona last night. I'd genuinely prefer to just not bother.
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>Ability: Lockdown
>The opponent's Active pokemon is unable to discard Energy for attacks & towards its Retreat Cost
There I brutally raped Hydreigon, was that so hard DeNA?
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Neat, that means I can pretty much get all the normal cards from the new set without actually opening packs of it.the only bad part is if someone well intentioned send me fucking Penny, I wish there was a way to block specific cards.
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Never even considered that I could make an alt account purely for sending me shares so I could complete base set faster. I think I'm gonna do that right now.
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I pulled 20 packs and got one Chien Pao ex and one Arven immersive out of it which is already pretty bad. However I have no motivation to put more hourglasses into this horrible pack. I think I'll open my 2 free weeks for a week and then go back to chasing my Waifu cards.
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This new set is boring
Post ur displays faggots
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>>58964499
Suicune hits for 60+ how many other bench warmers your opponent stupidly puts down. The opponent can actively affect that damage output which is why it's ok that 2 for 120is there.
Altaria needs a full bench to hit for 130, but you also need consistency, which is why it sits surrounded by a pile of 50HP babyshit. Without Altaria on the board alt decks just don't do anything.
Blaziken and Solgaleo are stage 2's so they need Rare Candy to be attacking on turn 4.
The only other 2 energy 120 attacks out there have pretty bad drawbacks, like Cofagrigus needing to discard 2 cards, or Heliolisk discarding all energy,
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>>58964704
>she got reprinted with a better art
Reused art.
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>>58964749
Sure, but you'd think greed would override that?
Doesn't take much effort to change penny to an effect that's actually good? even this >>58963852
is better than the current trash we have.
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Also adding to that, according to the last survey 80% of players don't interact with battles.
Giving cards new effects will have 0 impact on those players that only play to open packs and look at the cool pictures.
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Honest opinion, how would a bax/wailord deck go over? I'm assuming like grininja you can stack 2 energy to your active if you have 2 bax on the bench. Or is it one ice maker ability can be used per turn?
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>>58964798
>nobody gives a shit about Hoenn characters
May and Lisia are both very sought after. Plenty of love for other characters like Roxanne, Flannery, Wally, Brendan, Steven
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I'm not actually in this community, I collect physical cards and I only look at the datamine to see if my favorite mons or waifus get new art.
So 99% of the cards are just reused art, including most of the full art rares? Damn
I know sets always had reused arts from real life sets, but they always threw in new full art illustrations
Only good thing I can say is I got new art of my gremlin wife
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>>58964827
I'm not seeing it as an attacker but more of a first set gardevoir mana ramp on the bench, but beyond that I think the inflatable boat might be a little better if you "ideally" have 2 bax on the board and one gets pulled to the front.
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See that's what I was thinking but I haven't gotten a second bax beyond the gold crown to test it out.
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>>58964883
Roxanne actually got a premium fall alt in Masters while Flannery still has nothing. I think overall Roxanne is more popular than her and Winona now. Flannery fell off hard
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>over 70% of my random matches are gholdengo
>they always have enough ice pops and barriers to keep dialga/orthworm going
I fucking hate this game
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>>58964923
whoever approved ice pop needs to be killed. i don't know how you could withstand the original backlash to misty and be like
>we need to do that again but with a card that can be played on any turn in any deck
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I wish there was a way to check their collection without share.
I have way too many people set to private, and I feel like at least half of them are inactive.
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anyone have a spare mimikyu ex?
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>was that so hard DeNA?
I think it must be, because you just made Hydreigon stronger. Discarding is not a cost of the attack, it's an additional effect. If that effect doesn't happen, Hydreigon still deals damage but does not discard anything.
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>make a digital card game
>the #1 advantage of digital over physical is that if you accidentally release a card that is busted as fuck you can nerf it
>don't
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>get 132 hourglasses from solo battles
>Open 10 pats of Gardevoir set, get nothing.
>One another one, nothing again.
>Finish the 50 battles challenge for one las pull.
>NOTHING
Why the fuck is this set so curse?! HOW COME IT NEVER GAVE ME A SINGLE GARDEVOIR?!
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>>58963746
>>Nobody posting individual cards they like in the set
>>Nobody posting individual cards they think will be good
Lots of people were excited over the worm for Steel decks.
Also there were some interesting talks about options to pair with Skeledirges ability last thread
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Did I cook bros?
>Tfw it wouldn't let me call the deck "Finger Painting"
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>>58965606
Deck named finger
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>>58963736
>open one pack
>its all boring gen 9 slop
>check the 2 stars and immersive
>its all nothingburger cards that have 0 impacts on meta besides the star grunts
>go back to opening fantastical parade for immersive gardevoir
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any ideas to improve the deck?
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gholdiggers we are so bak
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>>58963736
i feel like i keep waiting for these cards to get more exciting, stuff like the arceus pack with the special holos were cool, or the special EX cards from the deluxe pack.
I'd love to see them revive stuff like the team plasma pokemon, gym leader pokemon, level X cards, etc. Or do totally new shit, I was half expecting some kind of nifty halloween or christmas themed mini sets, but it seems they have the game right where they want it, and that's a shame
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>>58965831
The rate is the same as it has been since day 1.
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Nice
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>>58965877
It happened again pretty much immediately
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>>58965420
Thanks again, I shared an ex you didn't already have after
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why is the cpu flexing on me
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Im really sad that they somehow dont see the value in modes. A tournement mode would be so fucking good in this game. I used to play the tcg client and it had one where it would match 20 something people into a small bracket and you’d get rewards.
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How do you pronounce this guy? Is it Vietnamese?
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>>58966271
I can't pronounce barely any of these names in this set
>>58966282
Neat. I like Ice pokemon.
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>ALL OF THE NEW CARDS ARE BAD AND NOT META-
well well well…
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ultra instinct login timing
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>>58966317
All I'm seeing is bellibolt with Magnezone. Fucking red eye still got it.
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>>58966317
This is viable? I have rainbow leafeon I've never played.
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So they're saving her for another miniset?
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>>58966727
Kinda? Old decks usually stomp in early metas. Meow seems mostly good to me, although its hard to use. The fact that it needs to actively think where to place damage makes it harder to use than any unga bunga deck this game tosses at us
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God blessed me with these pulls today from only 14 packs for the 70 PP 2D craft.
I somehow pulled one of each of the 2-star Gholdengos.
Don't underestimate the value of day 1 2-stars, because nobody has 24hr WP, yet.
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>>58966862
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
— John 3:16
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>>58966871
I needed a second Giovanni.
Now I'm free to trade my foil for somethimg else.
I think that if you want a card in the early game, you want to run two copies.
Otherwise, you aren't getting even 1 with any consistency.
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>>58966862
I think I just WP one of your packs, thanks bro.
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So, in regards to the "they nerfed Hourglasses from challenges" thing.
I did some calcs, and this set basically confirmed that we're getting the same amount of HG from before in the same way I predicted on Fastastical Parade's release.
We get fewer HGs than we used to get from sets that have 100+ cards, but the difference is more than made back comparing it to sets that had less than 100 cards.
Both WSS and MR had a max amount of 134 HGs, which is 14 more than the 120 we get now.
But smaller sets like EC and CB had 81, which means we get 39 more HGs than we got from those.
Also, looking at both HGs per diamond rarity card, and HG per card total in the sets, this set is second and first respectively in most HGs obtained by cards in the set.
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Then we get more, not the same amount?
Each big set had 2 following smaller sets. So you do 2*39 and then subtract 14.
That's a net gain of 64 for that particular example you used.
Just looking at that table I can tell that the HG average from pre-FP is lower than the average of post-FP.
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>>58967918
Right, calculating the average like that would make more sense.
And yes, it seems it's more HGs on average per set than before, good catch.
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>>58967861
They're nerfed because they are under a time limit to do them. Before, all your hourglasses could be collected at any point since the Step up Battle never disappeared. But now, half of your hourglasses are locked under a timed event.
>just do it, it's not hard
You are missing the point. It's the principle of the matter.
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>>58967977
I don't see that as an issue.
If anything, it adds even more value to those 72 HGs specifically because you can miss them.
I think if, instead of 12 HGs you got a "pack redeem" where you HAD to immediately open a pack, then I'd agree since you could be stuck having to open from a set you have no interest on.
But a whole month to get 72 HGs that you can just keep and use whenever something appeals to you show up is definitely not an issue.
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>>58967990
If they continue releasing sets like FP in a single pack, those hourglasses will have way less value because you are being forced to pull from sets with way worse odds than previous sets of 2 or 3 packs.
Gating 2/3 of your hourglasses behind a FOMO grind is objectively bullshit and one of the many reasons why this game is dying.
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>you are being forced to pull from sets with way worse odds than previous sets
First, you're not forced to pull from them because they're hourglasses.
You can pick any pack to open with them, and you don't have to open them immediately, meaning you can just hold on to them to use in a future pack.
Second, every single pack since release have had the same pull rates for specific rarities, as seen in >>58965844 (also by myself)
Third, by your definition, the entire game is FOMO. If you don't login for 24 hours, you missed a pack. And the definition of "grind" used here is extremely loose, as you can literally just enable auto with a B tier deck and it will still clear the challenges.
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female ts grunt is underrated glad she's getting some love
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I think meowscarada would be good but is the kinda pokemon hurt by ice pop. The 2 shot archetype in pocket died overnight, its so brutal to knock something down to 30-50 hp and they meme heal back to 180 with ice pop. Like how the fuck does the meta game recover from this shit? Play 1 shot pokemon or don’t even bother queing up
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Finally got one after whiffing on almost everything on the last set
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Cute
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>>58963736
I got 2 copies of these cards with the Japanese copies of sun and moon I bought from ebay
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lole glad to be rid of this worthless card. another 'fu for my small collection
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>>58968692
What even is this cope? Pack in cards are pretty common on ebay
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>tcgp gets 15 seconds of showing art cards and the login bonuses
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th-thank you for the 10 free packs...
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Games dead already lmao
sorry chuds no refunds
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almost forgot we had alolan Raticate for discarding items.
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ninja turtles!
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is arven actually good?
thins the deck and pulls one just like a pokeball would but for item/tool
but if you already have all your tools/items its 50% to do nothing, or if you really need one or the other its also 50% to brick so its not as consistent
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