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any fun decks yet?
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>>58974840
It's not bad
Maybe doesn't need 2 copycat but it doesn't work at all without serp
90 is also just little enough damage for the opponent to keep themselves alive for another turn with ice pop!
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>>58974812
Running against time, I forgot to change PW cardlist's URL. Sorry.
It should be: https://www.pokemon-zone.com/sets/b2a/
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>>58975062
I can't believe you've done this.
Irredeemable. Banned forever.
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why do EX drop rates feel so bad lately?
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>>58975152
Law of Large Numbers.
For every person that opens 12 packs and doesn't get an ex, someone else opened 12 and got 2.
The thing is, the person that didn't get any is more likely to post complaining about it than the person that got 2 to post boasting.
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>>58974840
Meh, gholdengo meow and chien pao are fun but they are just not that good
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>>58975201
Or the game's algorithm is not as random as they advertise it to be and they have reduced rates because lower rates (that still feel attainable) mean more long-term engagement.
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>>58975424
I mean, if anyone suspects that the disclosed odds are not correct and sues them, they would get absolutely fucked, specially on EU ground.
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>>58975669
Asian markets also take those very serious. Lots of (cheaply made, sure, but still) chinese games got shut down after Korean government started cracking down on false percentages.
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>>58975201
From 22 packs my alt got
>4 EX
>1 1*
>1 Full art
>1 Rainbow
>2 Immersive
>1* and 1** shiny
God damn alt is SUCCIN all the luck from my main
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>>58975152
I pulled 50 packs between my accounts and only saw 3 EX (all 3 were chien-Pao, heh). My fantastical parade was equally bad, relying on mostly WP to get a copy of all EX in that set.
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why do the pokemon in this set feel off? It feels like there’s a disconnect between the recent designs. It’s almost like half of them belong in digimon.
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>>58976537
People been saying that since gen 3.
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>mfw 30 Days of Gifts
this is an absurd about of free shit wtf. I'm not complaining but something must be going wrong for them to be dishing out like 60 free pulls right?
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>>58976604
It's 48. But yes, they're bleeding players, making you login every day for 30 days just to delay EoS.
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I fucking hate this set
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>>58976641
Ahh I thought it was a pack a day didn't realise they sprinkled some other shit in there
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>tourney bans hydreigon
>variety up the ass
whoa
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>some dumbass in a trading discord just traded me 2* sabrina in exchange for a fucking gengar
they are calling me the greatest trader of all time
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>>58968350
>Gainax pose
OK, guess I'll like this pokemon now.
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>>58976604
And I was just about to quit. These fucks know what they're doing.
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I hate Paldea and its pokedex
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Thanks for the 120 hourglasses DeNa.

No I will not use them on Paldea.
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>>58976884
Belibolt is fun though, and might be kinda good actually
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>>58976884
Same
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Can anyone trade Mewscarda ex? My cards are JPN if that bothers you.
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Still baffles me that 10 pulls doesn't guarantee you anything in this game. Every other gacha has a guarantee 10-pull giving something like "Guaranteed Super Rare!" or "Guaranteed 4-Star Recruit!". Meanwhile Pocket Devs are floundering like "WHY ARE WE LOSING PLAYERS???". Gee, maybe players don't like saving up 2 weeks worth of resources for a 10--pull just to get 50 1-diamond rarity cards.
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>>58977141
>Dena gives away three 10-packs
>Revenue goes down once everyone blows ~$30 worth of pulls and sees that it gets you next to nothing in this game
please god it would be so fucking funny
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>>58977331
I feel like at the very least you should get a guaranteed 4-diamond/EX in a 10-pull. You know, the most necessary cards to play in versus mode? But nah DeNA got so fucking greedy they couldn't even do what other gacha games do with offering a guarantee system with their 10 pulls.
What do 10 pulls offer you in Pocket? Nothing. It just lets you open 10 packs at once. That's it. No wonder player retention is fucking ass.
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The only deck I ever use anymore is Cusola/Dusknoir.

Because I figure so long as DeNa's going to release shitty packs with obnoxious powercreep, and all the whalecattle are going to eat it up, I'm going to make the experience be as miserable as fucking possible for them that their whole "double Indeedee, double Mega Steelix, double Heavy Helmet" strategy shit can end in one coin flip.
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>>58977607
Are you really bitching about garbage like fucking Steelix?
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>>58977656
Cry about it, get Perish Body'd.
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>>58977683
I don't really care, anon, I just think you're really sad for getting upset over shit no one plays.
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my friend list is slowly turning into a graveyard. what has DeNA done
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>>58977833
Released 3 bad sets in a row.
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>>58977704
Stay mad enough to respond.
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Lucky Ice Pop might be the first rewrite. As long as it exists the way it is, it will be a compounding, gamekilling issue
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>>58977683
>>58978098
Npc ass responses.
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Quick question because I have a bunch of people from here added.
Would people get mad if I shared 1/2 diamond cards that you're missing from the new set, assuming it's like 10 or 15 minutes away from daily reset?
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>>58977076
Sorry, I only got a bunch of copies of ching chong ex and no other ex mons.
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>>58978657
I'm never mad when I get cards I don't have.
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>>58976604
kek, maybe I'm just greedy, but I felt that 120 hourglasses is too few. 30 Packs is great. But it should also be 30 packs worth of hourglasses.
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>>58978762
It is.
you get 120 at day one, 120 at day 15, and 120 at day 30.
And then a bunch of random packs throughout the month, totaling 48 packs.
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>>58976641
Its crazy they don't understand
All they have to do is start making new sets that aren't 90% pack filler and actually gives people motivation to pull, build new decks, and play the game.

Its not a coincidence that people started losing interest in the game during the long stretches where the meta was most stagnant and unfun. How do they not realize this.

Game could really benefit from a new format or game mode if they're not willing to stop shitting the bed on their sets.
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>>58978792
Unironically, I think that's what they tried to do with the Random Battle challenge thing.
They did however astronomically missed the mark, but that
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>>58978938
>but that
but that doesn't really surprised me given how many bad decisions they had made since launch.

I don't know what's happening, I keep sendind messages without finishing them. Annoying.
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>>58978792
>build new decks, and play the game.
You need to understand that most people don't do this and never will. Most players just want to pull cards and open packs. They should lean more into the collecting aspect instead of the battling.
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Has there ever been a gacha game that adjusts pull rates later down the line, or is there like a legal thing preventing that? I'm pretty sure that would immediately get people playing and paying again, especially if they discounted gold at the same time.
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>>58978957
Yeah, gacha games adjust drop rates all the time.
Pocket has "yada yada things are subject to change at any moment yada yada" in a bunch of places.
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Almost every WP is people opening old packs already ffs
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>>58976604
they are trying to boost sales by giving f2ps a lot of free packs to get them used to the nice 10 pack opening feel and entice them to pay
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>>58979134
YEP holy shit
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>>58978938
Random battles are fine to me
>>58978951
I'm one of those who finds PvP a chore, and really really want a lot more display board and album slots
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>bax and chien pao are doing well in tourneys
wow this place was wrong again
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>>58979176
They are fine to me as well, but they're not the new gamemode we need to be attractive enough to ensure people keep playing.
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>>58979197
why did they give a basic mon the ability to snipe for 130 for 3 energies? especially a water type that has incredible energy generation tools already
I'm nor saying it's too broken and such but you cannot do this after poor Gigalith EX needs 2 evos and 4 fighting Energies to deal 140 + skips a turn without any real possibility of retreating. I'm just mad
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>>58979271
Its only usae because bax lets relax
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Yes thank you dear friend for sharing that 1-diamond Wishiwashi from the deluxe pack so I can't share shit from my alt, I really needed that.
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>>58978657
I've been doing that for some time now, I reckon if they haven't gotten a daily share and it's close to reset then there's no harm in sending something they don't have. I don't think anybody has unfriended me for it yet.
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What I want the most is some improvements to game performance. It seriously runs like shit (in my phone at least). It takes literally like 30 seconds from clicking on a particular solo battle to the deck confirmation screen. How is that even possible? This game is mostly just menus and static screens, it shouldn't run so badly.
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Why is Penny the first trainer to get an alt art, did they forget they already released her in Eevee Grove?
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>>58979600
It's a Paldean themed set, if you haven't noticed. Iono also got one.
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>they give out 3x120 hgs
next set bout to have 500 cards
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>>58979405
i said it's not that i find it too strong, just makes Gigalith even more egregious
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>>58979600
Lillie and Lusamine had alt arts first
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>>58974840
Uhhhhh, baxcalibur+suicune?
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100+ days of instant 10 pack rerolls
GULP
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It ain't easy bein' cheesy
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>>58976884
I did but Im not doing that again
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>>58980822
post brew
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>>58979641
A2b was when shinies got introduced.
They may try something "funny" like that again for B2b.
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Yes I really wanted this reprint instead of the new cards
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What would I need to give up to trade for a FA Nemona?
Its the only card I want from this set and I don't really want to rip 1250 pp worth of the set to get
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>>58981327
Good trade value.
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>>58981327
worst godpack ive ever seen actually. I'd prefer all 1*s
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>>58979583
You definitely need a better phone. The cards and menus are animated at a high number of frames per second (for a phone), and it's all 3D-rendered, instead of just slapping 2D images on top of each other.
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>>58981388
I'd think most A/B tier FA trainers/RR pokémon would be enough given Nemona itself is not a particularly great card.
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Aegislash (steel) and orthwurm are actually a pretty decent combo. Fat Fuck can start swinging for good damage and he can conceivably be alive long enough to do it once if you can rare candy your back row by turn two
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>>58981452
Would dropping the Red for a second Will not be better?
Feel like getting a guaranteed 160 is better than having a 50/50 for 100/180.
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>>58981498
There are times where I need to field that aegis if I dont have a tinkaton ready. So then he'll be able to swing for 120
Then Will can guarantee one surefire heavy swing from the EX
I usually try to cover all possibilities instead of focusing on one because I feel worse if I didn't have the option in the deck vs it just being stapled to the bottom of the deck.
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I need your meowscarada deck thats won at least one game
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>>58981552
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/699e9da0c9dc8186f760be6e/standings
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>the board is this slow even on fucking pokemon day.

I'm just happy to finally be using Meow again.
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>>58981388
Do you have RR Armarouge?
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>>58981557
I knew trying to pair this thing with anything was a bad idea
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>>58981540
I see, makes sense.
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I've opened 168 packs with no 2 star and I'm still missing Arboliva.
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>>58975152
they deliberately nerfed pull rates and bloated pack sizes after introducing the 24hr pack mechanic because they saw people finished CB in a matter of days and got 20+ 2* wonderpicks which was no bueno
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>>58982152
They didn't nerf pull rates.
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Kek got a 30 turn game against oricorio using venu/indee
He got really lucky with his coin flips and ice pops
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Fuck Paldea
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>>58982377
Sounds awful
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I hate how oricorio steelix is still better than orthworm steelix builds and here I thought orthworm would give more value to steel types than dialga.
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>>58982661
It doesn't make sense for that worm to not at least hit for 30 to kill babies while also adding steel energy
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>>58982671
the problem I have with the worm is that its retreat cost is too high and it doesn’t add value on turn one. dialga provides more energy in the long run and I’d rather run babies to generate energy for steel pokémon that aren’t too energy restrictive. the only good thing about the worm is that it only costs one point.
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>>58974812
Gholdengo is cute!!
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>get god pack
>see this
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Woo, emblem event! Lets go!
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Hell yeah
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>>58983867
Now get the meowscarada planeta
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18 trainer Chien-Pao kind of works.
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>>58984012
brew? he's the only ex i got from this pack
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this just want a 192 person tournament. the only dud that i saw consistently was team star grunt. i could see that easily being swapped out for ice pop or copycat
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>>58983949
I don't even have a 4 diamond Meowscarda
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I may no longer have any shinedust left but at least I am happy with my collection.
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>>58976884
>posts image with tits

Good luck on that delayed gratification, I’m totally sure you can overcome the urges.
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>got penny on my alt
Is she worth anything?
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>>58984184
nice will try
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I don't even feel like doing the emblem event this month.
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any changed you all would make to this? idk what the point of Starting Plains is but it was recommended
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>>58982671
It's supposed to be weaker than Dialga, anon
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>>58984835
The only thing stopping her from being the worst supporter in the game is that Looker is THAT bad
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>>58984835
No, is too random to be useful.
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>finally got mega Gardevoir
>Only because someone share one with me.
I opened 140 fucking packs, the fact I never got a Mega Gardevoir from its own fucking set gives me despair.
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>>58981327
All those are reprints.
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Hydreigon should've been like Flareon EX, you can take energies from discard pile, not generate new ones. This would make it just strong instead of broken
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Bellibolt ex + Magnezone?
Fat frog attacks and GA Magneton gathers energy on bench so that fat frog can attack even harder. It's too slow, isn't it?
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>>58986480
Zeraora + BelliEX + Pichu dishes out 140 on turn 2 if you get the combo
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>>58986551
But you have nothing to fall back to if you don't get the combo. And I'm not someone who ever gets the combo. Any combo.
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>>58985443
The only way to make something worse than a card that is completely useless, is to make it actively detrimental.
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Is Gholdengo meta or just fun deck ?
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>>58985450
>>58985657
Yeah but it's FA I mean, does it even have waifu value?
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>>58982865
you're supposed to use lyra or just let it die
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>>58986884
steel is still far too reliant on going second and getting a proper opening hand to be meta. not consistent enough
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>>58986951
No, Penny is disgusting looking.
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>check the event out
>first game is against suicune grenigger
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Dumping a digital code for the online card game
VG2-RRWG-9Q2-D7K

Should be journey together
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>>58986884
Just fun unfortunately. From what I can tell the only new pokemon of meta note so far seem to be baxcalibur and bellibolt ex
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>>58987175
You want >>58982271
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>>58985669
Sounds like you're just as much of a cuck as N, then
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>>58986559
You've got Lisia, at least three Pokemon that can be searched by her, and then the rest. How hard can it be?
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>>58986951
I'll give you a Fantina for it.
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If I were to pair this fat cunt with the tatsu that gives it a retreat cost of zero think I can do anything with it?
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>>58987472
Yes you can use it as a meat shield and then retreat to put whatever you're building up in the bench as the Active.
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Lol pocketmads banned ice pop, game will be watchable this week
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>today my alts pulled
>Shiny Suicune EX
>Shiny Entei EX
>Nemona FA
>Nemona FA
>Crown Electric Gen
>my main pulled
>nothing
Love to see it
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Does Pocket need this ?
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>>58987970
the last thing pocket needs is more card draw
if anything it needs a card like jolteon EX, but does damage to the opponent's active for each card they draw
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>>58987970
what we really need is an ash
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>>58987970
how about a baby that deals 10 damage every time opp draws
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>>58988222
Make it work from bench and Iono becomes a staple on every deck.
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>open pack
>get something shit
>alt + f4
all i've done for the last week
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good news, meta changed
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>>58988359
>open pack
>see the sparkles or hear the sound
>tilt the pack
>see the 1-star border
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>>58988368
Am I dumb, what does baxcalbur bring to a suicune deck? It already attacks for 2 and doesn't need the ramp. And why ramp baxcalibur itself (which is what I'm assuming its doing?) when you can just run it with greninja instead and lose 10 damage for 1 fewer energy and bench ping
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>>58988431
That deck has Chien Pao.
I don't know why, but limitless picks 2 of the mons present in the deck seemingly at random to display.
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>>58988448
Oh, that makes more sense.
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>>58988411
>open pack
>see sparkles
>it's a fucking shiny
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>>58987970
I mean graceful charity is broken because the discard pile in yugioh is broken, in pocket not really for now. I dont think a draw 2 with discard tacked on would be broken
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>>58988368
makes me sad that altaria and greninja are falling off
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>>58988368
kneel before the meta changer
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>>58988663
bait used to be good here wtf
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>>58988593
>open pack
>see sparkles
>Fagscalibur
AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>58988368
Isn't this a "no hydreigon" tournament?
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>>58988593
Shinies have a specific sparkle animation, it's the red-orange cloud of dust. The other one is for anything 1* or above.
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Good decks for autoing the step up battles? aka OG solo mode
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>>58988933
The free Blaziken deck we got is good. Use some other shit for the water ones, I guess.
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100 dust, really? Should be at least 1 dust per win. Would you guys play more pvp if you got rewards like every 10 or so wins?
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>>58988899
Kind of, it has icepop banned and hydreigon is significantly weaker without it.
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>>58989067
Probably the opposite.
If every 10 wins gave you, say, 100 dust, people would be way more sweaty even on the casual queue and it would be way less enjoyable to play.
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>>58985418
Probably ditch miltank for another ramping baby, popsicle, cyrus or another helm. Plains is in there so your baby pokemon don't get 1 shot by things like Jirachi plus it just adds HP to both Kang and Darkrai.
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>>58988368
Yeah I'll wait until ranked season to make any conclusion. The nips always figure it out more than tourneytards
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>mega absol at 10 hp
>have chien pao primed and ready
>hydranigger flips 7 heads to heal it out of kill range
this game is a fucking joke
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>>58988941
Where do I even claim that deck at? I still have the mission for 12 hr glasses for using that deck.
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>>58989126
It would be somewhere in missions.
I don't see it anymore, but I'm unsure if that's because I already claimed it or because the event expired.
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>>58989138
hm think I'm confused since I never used a rental deck. I thought you would just claim it and it would show up in one of your deck slots.
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>>58989176
That's where it should be.
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I apologize for underestimating this weasel. Probably the most fun ex card in a long time.
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>>58989224
>double bax
I think every single water deck in the game would be fun if you had double bax on the bench.
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is bellibolt actually good or is it just cope
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>>58989271
Its playable, thats more then most of this set can say for itself.
Whether or not to consider playable=good thats on you.
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>>58989271
Its a really good card, idk why this place is so apprehensive. The set when it comes to artwork is beyond lazy and worrying for the games before, but this set is already better than the last 2 expansions when it comes to card viability
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>>58989264
Chien pao just needs 1 bax to check mate opponents.
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>>58989271
>high roll = 140 damage turn 2
>Mid roll = 70 damage turn 2 and 140 turn 3
>shit roll = bricked and who cares, just consneed and move to the next match.

Basically it comes down to how badly the mid and low rolls are for the deck. hitting for 70 turn 2 isn't bad at all assuming you're not getting Hydraniggered next turn.
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>>58989401
>>shit roll = bricked and who cares, just consneed and move to the next match.
That's every deck.
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>>58989409
That's what I said anon
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>>58989220
Never even noticed that tab thanks!
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>>58989372
how
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>>58989424
By being bad at math.
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any recommendations to improve the deck
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>>58989553
Is this not just...vastly inferior suininja?
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>>58989590
hitting anywhere for 130 is great and should not be underestimated
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>>58989590
Using greninja at all is a massive debuff.
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>>58989685
We rewriting history?
We pro-gren on this general now?
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i hate the current meta
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>>58989590
Bax suicune dominated a 500 man tourney today so no.
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>>58989590
suininja can often struggle to snipe mons, as suicune is generally quite weak after some mons have gone down on either side and using greninja ex to do the killing blow necessitates pulling both your candies. chien pao not needing cyrus to snipe means it can't be cucked by absol or mars, as long as it's on the field you can blast for 130. if you do get both bax up it's also entirely possible to just keep it in hand until needed which makes it impossible for the opponent to respond to. the deck is also less weak going first as an early bax lets suicune swing before the opponent can evolve.
whether it's better remains to be seen, but it's certainly a viable alternative.
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>>58989822
I find that the bonus is also not having to run double cyrus, which means 2 free slots in your deck.
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Was it a good trade?
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Pocket is genuinely pretty fun without ice pop. Man that card just needs to be banned in every tourney, what a mood killer.
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>>58990167
Surprised there's no "noicepop" queue like there is "noex".
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Oh, now I hate Ghokdengo even more...
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>>58990167
If ice pop, greninja, candy and Altaria were removed from the game it would unironically become pretty good and deck diversity would skyrocket.
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>>58988368
Meowbros.................................
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>opponent does 8 headflips with ice pop
Kek
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Strangle every AltariTard player, watch the life drain from their eyes!
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>>58990501
Yeah meow against ice pop is cock, but even then it just doesn’t do alot of damage at all
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>FATSHITTER Lax fucking dismantled by duo Owls

Good shit
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>slop set with reused art actually had meta changing cards
wowie
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>>58990738
>luxray but a basic is good
>gardevoir but with actually good numbers is good
>140 damage for 2 energy is good
wow who could have seen this coming
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Malamar when
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How the fuck do you guys get enough shop tickets to clear the monthly shop? Even after grinding the 5 daily ticket, I'm rushing to grind solo battle missions and unsure if I'll finish in time.
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>>58990996
You just do the missions/events that reward them.
Also never bought the special tickets or whatever the fuck they're called.
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>>58990996
You have all month to do the solo missions, and all month to buy the hourglasses, there's no rush
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I think i like the suicune bax combo because it feels like the old gardevoir package from GA.
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>>58991161
it's fun to play in a way that suicune greninja just wasn't
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i hate ice pop so much that i'm willing to try and brew a Vikavolt or even an Exploud deck, any ideas? i know i'm probably not gonna be able to use anything like sophocles since absol/hydreigon combos are probably just gonna instantly discard it
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>>58991205
greninja was fun to play if you are not on the receiving end
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>Cleared PW day1
>No 24h WP yet

WHAT THE FUCK
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Anyone else sick of charitard avis that'd play hydregion or suicune decks? Thought you like your overrated boy...
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>>58991161
Post a list please
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Someone here told me that lillie dx would always be valuable cause shes LIMITED and there would be less in circulation but now her value sank like a rock and nobody wants her
fuck you faggot
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>>58991643
Just set up a trade and wait. Someone will respond.
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>>58991643
Interested in a Morty or Hiker?
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Did this past update get rid of the tab of the empty pokegold redemption page? I know they haven't put anything to redeem for a year but I'm still not spending this shit.
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>jap on my friendlist
>assume both want to complete latest pack but remain f2p (can tell from card amount and roughly same amount of remaining cards for PW)
>i share missing diamond cards, he gives one i'm missing in return, been like this since MR
>get extra armarouge, sees that he's missing this ex so i share it
>he gives me a glaceon ex from Deluxe when i'm still missing like six 2 diamonds
Do, do people just not know Deluxe will be filled out later this year? I'm still missing stuff like Dachsbun and Iono and even Fuecoco, so if he actually doesn't have any extras for me, why not just let someone else have today's share quota?
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>Pulled FA Penny
>Nobody wants her
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>>58991839
I do, what are you looking for
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>>58991850
Rainbows mostly, M-Swampert or Armarouge are my main chases
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>>58991856
I'll do rainbow swamp for it
0449071172492316
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>>58991839
Good, may this teach Gamefreak to drop this type of "character". Hell, the people they were trying to "appeal to" completely ignored Penny and instead focused on Iono just because the colors of her hair although they dropped her immediately when Nintendo itself told them to GTFO.
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is team start grunts a good card?
only 2-star I managed to pull. If its shit I might just try and move it for a FA waifu
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>>58991863
Added
don't suppose you'd let go of one of your a spare oaks for it haha
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>>58991885
Two people added me so start the trade if you don't mind, dunno who's who
it's my trade-in-case-of-emergency card, sorry
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>>58991891
Yeah just shooting my shot, M-Swampert is fine. I'm the one with the Lunala pic
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One good thing about Hydreigon and Greninja being this meta is that I haven't seen a single shitty yellow bird
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>>58991895
Wait sorry its Meloetta now, forgot I changed it
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So if I dont get a baby Pokemon on my opening M Kangaskhan deck, Im just fucked right? just started playing this game but Im already tired of this nigger tier RNG kike bullshit
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>>58992210
That's why you use Ilima
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I had a quick growth and pokeball in my discard...
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No one can convince me the rates haven't been lowered
>law of large numbers
Numbers that you haven't seen.
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>>58992317
I'm also 100% certain they turned the pvp algo up to max because I have never bricked as much as I have during this event and not just "oh I didn't get pokeball t1" either, I'm talking hard bricks vs opponents with perfect t1 combo hands that are optimal for whatever position they started in. No meme decks either, I'm just using the same decks I used last meta (adapted for ice pop). Speaking of ice pop, the matches where I don't just inta-brick t1 have to deal with ice pop bs which has made damage calcs impossible.
They looked at the garbage pvp meta this game had and decided to make it even worse.
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>>58992317
I don't think they've been changed, they've just always been shit. Secluded Springs went about as well for me as FP and PW have. I went almost 2 weeks in that set without a single ex.
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Is shiny Suicune sought after?
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>>58992878
what are you looking for?
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>>58992902
Guzzlord
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>>58992317
Well if you're gonna make a claim you can't prove and then cry "can't prove it" on the predicted response, then nobody can really help you, schizo
PS nobody can convince me that Santa isn't real
>"nobody could travel that far and deliver that many presents in one night-"
Nobody that you know
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Holy cookerino
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>Completed PW day 1
>Sitting on 400+
>Urge to dump it all for crown Buttplug

We're not getting info on what's next anytime soon are we?
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>30 days of free shit
Maybe I should jump back
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>>58992921
Prove that he can't prove it, then.
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>>58993042
Enjoy your 30 days of white borders.
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>lose because opponent flipped 5 heads on ice pop
Seriously who designed this fucking card? Who thought it was a good idea to give an already rng-heavy game a potential infinite heal? Knowing and planning for damage ranges was one of the very few bits of strategy this game had and now this one card has completely killed that with 0 ways to counter it.
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>>58993111
It's from the paper game.
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>>58993118
And? The paper game's meta is completely different from this one's and they have ported cards over while changing how they work so that is no excuse.
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>>58993111
>>58993169
The devs get off on seeing your tears.
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>>58993177
Considering how fast the game is dying they might get off on losig their jobs
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>>58993090
Prove it.
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>>58992905
what's your FC? I have one.
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>>58993352
5236583374537218
It's on an alt.
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>>58993367
added I have a mew pfp
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>>58993378
Sent
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>>58993393
thank you
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>bellybolt is the only new EX that interests me
>get every ex besides it
Welp guess I don't get to play a new deck then.
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Opened 4x10 paldean pack. Finally some good cards
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>>58976537
They are fucking ugly and not fun to collect from a casual perspective. I stopped pulling from this set specifically because the Pokemon and Trainers were so hideous.

Paldea is disgusting.
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>>58992921
Eat shit. not the same Anon, but I'll give my opinion as the disgusting pay-pig I am.
Normally, with each new expansion, I open around 70 to 80 packs on the first two days, after which I usually fill almost all the diamond cards from that expansion, "especially the EX cards." I must emphasize that when they implemented the 24-hour WP in Crimson Blaze, due to the speed at which I usually complete the set, I managed to double the number of 2-star cards I normally get, all thanks to 24-hour WP. The change in drop rates was very noticeable after Fantastical Parade, especially for the 4-diamond EX cards. Even though I have three alt accounts plus my main account (where I spend a large amount of money monthly), I didn't manage to complete the set until mid month, even with the Share and Trade options.

If you're going to act like a fucking obtuse piece of shit because "There's no solid evidence," you can shove all the microplastics in the world up your ass since "it can't yet be proven harmful to humans." You miserable bastard, hope you get colon cancer.
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Reminder to anyone that suspects the disclosed odds are incorrect.
You can make a shitton of money if you sue them and end up being right.
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>>58993570
>i had an unlucky personal experience so that must be the norm because i can't understand the concept of a statistical outlier
i had.both immersives in a single non-godpack during fantastical parade so actually they must have buffed the rates and i didnt just get really lucky right?
idiot
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>>58989553
BaxCune sounds way weaker than GrenCune but who knows
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>>58993570
FP had the same odds to get each type of card, but it was a full set put into a single pack so it was way harder to get what you actually wanted.
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>>58993856
And even that got somewhat mitigated by being able to trade stuff from day 1.
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>>58993871
Somewhat, but not entirely. When nobody is getting the ex cards, let alone 3+ of the same one, people aren't likely to be trading them for others. Most of the ex cards I got last set were simply sent from all my alts.
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>>58993901
If the odds of getting each type of card are the same, how can you claim nobody is getting ex cards?
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>>58993926
Specific copies of an ex card, or getting enough to have more than a playset. You can pull 18 ex cards and still miss 1 of them while not having enough to trade for the last one without losing a playset.
Of course, you can make the argument that you don't need a playset of everything, but 18 ex cards is extremely unlikely.
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>>58992854
The algorithm is deck-based. If you use whatever has the highest win rate/use rate, you will be actively fucked over to give lesser decks wins. Switch to something off-meta and you'll notice a massive improvement.
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>>58993940
Yeah sure, but the same has been true since the first set.
That's not something new to FP or PW.
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>>58993957
It's not the same. Aside from SR, there has never been that many ex cards in a single pack. FP's problem was that it tried to stuff over 200 cards into a single pack.
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>>58993975
I'm talking about ending up with 3+ copies of one ex while having 0 of another.
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>>58993987
Of course it can happen, but it's much less likely to get triplicates of a card in FP than it is in nearly every other set. Because of that, people aren't likely to trade new cards for old. Why would they? It's way easier to get playsets of older cards.
You end up with a situation in where people want to trade a FP ex for a FP ex, but nobody has the trade fodder to do so.
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>>58994013
I don't think the average changes that much though.
Take a set with similar number of cards to FP, WSS, but divided into 2 packs.
To get 20 exs, which gives you enough to at least trade to get 2 of each, you still need to open 240 packs.
The only difference is that in WSS, you open 120 of each.
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>>58993297
Prove what? I did not make any claims.
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Water ching chong is still the only ex I opened from this pack. At 5 copies now.
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>>58994029
It's simply easier to get the cards you need from other sets because the single pack isn't so congested.
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>>58983833
Kek
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>>58994365
Yeah, I agree.
We're both arguing about different things at this point.
You're saying that getting the cards yourself is easier with separate packs, which is true.
And I'm saying the amount of average packs you need to open to get x amount of cards is the same between sets regardless if they're 1 or 2 packs, which is also true.
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>>58993822
It is, yeah. Cause with GrenCune you're waiting on your stage 2's to come out just so you can ping and Cyrus out for the kill. With BaxCute, you're waiting on your stage 2's just as a SUPPORT to accelerate Chingchong-dog, who can still snipe without their help just very slowly. Because Xiaomi-dog does so much damage with its snipe, chances are you don't even need to Cyrus out for the kill. But it's not like you won't be running Cyrus anyway, just in case, so...

tl;dr - Greninja isn't a true snipe, it's just throwing a pebble for you to finish using Suicune. Kung-Pao-Dog actually snipes for the kill with his wok.
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Hate to say it but I think this update was...good for the meta? Like we all wanted groundbreaking metashaking cards mostly because last meta was absolute cancer and we wanted to move on from it. Under normal circumstances, I think incremental meta pushes is actually healthy, rather than a n update that completely centralizes the meta into the newest hot 2 cards on the block.

So the new cards aren't all that great, but good enough that they add to the meta without particularly drowning it. Problem is we all really hate the fucking last meta.
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>>58994739
This happens in the real TCG. Pocket players are just not used to it, yet.
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>>58994795
If they were to add one single card to this set that would make it a perfect addition, it'd be a basic mon with the ability to damage opponents every time they use an item. Completely negate Lucky Ice Pop. Fuck that card. Without that card I'd actually say the meta is in a good spot. Hydranigger isn't too big of a deal when it actually kills itself as intended to be OP as shit. Even putting Heal Block on a basic would be worth it. Putting that shit on Claydol was such a fucking miss. Nobody is running 4 fucking card slots on some piece of shit that's literally only useful for healblocking. You're likely to just brick with that shit, or only ever get it when you don't need it anymore.
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Icepop would be more balanced if it just had a HOPT on it
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My ice pop always flips tails :(
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you guys are fakers for dropping greninja over that rat and stinking lizard
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>>58993871
>>58993901
The way I got 24hr WPs from Parade (besides being quite lucky and spending a lot of dust) was flipping singles of EXes I wasn't going to play after registering them, and I'm still missing three of them
I'm not spending HGs for Paldean beyond the initial 10pull, and I have gotten way fewer 3diamonds than last month, but I'm attributing that to my luck regressing rather than thinking they nerfed the rates
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>Metagross STILL not in the game
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>>58993951
I swapped to Buzzwhole, which is a deck I hadn't used at all last season and still got hard bricks and was still facing meta decks like Suicune with ice pop.
Even the off-meta decks are being hit hard this time around.
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>>58989067
Back then dust wasn't trading currency
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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What's point of Suicune + Baxcalibur? Suicune only needs 2 energy to attack. Baxcalibur fits better with Palkia
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>>58996054
It runs Chien Pao.
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>>58996054
Chien Pao one shotting that indeedee fuck
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>WP 2nd copy of Bellibolt
I will be playing she tonight
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>>58996129
Just realized I only have 1 tadbulb
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>>58996152
Not even one from FP?
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>>58996162
I do. I just looked at the deck list from a tourney and every Bellibolt deck runs the FP one. Crisis averted.
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>>58996152
The bastards know what they're doing with the Sprigatito stuff as premium ticket items, and the Iono stuff in a gold bundle
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>>58996195
I wasn't a fan of Iono but she has grown on me but tbqh I love most of the pokegirls
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What's better for Bellibolt? Magneton/zones or Zeraoras?
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>>58996348
I'm wondering the same thing. I just don't see how the zeraora is better than magnezone especially when you can draw magnemite with Lisia and Megaton with Clemont.
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Why is there such a stigma in the pocket community when it comes to using the best meta decks? People will seethe at your for using cards that are in the game.
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>>58996478
Magneton has more support options, but Zeraora is simply faster. The deck with the highest win rates in tournaments right now is running 2 frogs and squirrels, and 1 Pichu.
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>>58996560
>squirrels
Is that zeraora? Also maybe magnezone variety has too many mons and not enough supportee/items cards. Something I did consider.
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>>58996544
It's a casual oriented game, it will attract casuals.
These people wouldn't last 3 months playing MTG.
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>>58996572
Well you can pull Tadbulb and Magnemite both with Lisia, and you have Clemont and Sightseer to thin the deck. I've had good enough luck with Zeraora.
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>>58996586
Imagine people who complain about RNG in Pocket played Hearthstone
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>Memory Light
>Torrent Boosted Splashing Dodge
>Wills

Damn, QueerDuck got some moves
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>>58997092
What's the Will for?
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>>58997154
Guaranteed Splashing Dodge damage negation at 70 a pop. It's not gangbusters & they still lost but it's kinda neat
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>>58997224
Oh I was looking at Quaxwel's Splashing Turn. That makes way more sense.
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>>58997224
The hard part is losing 100 health without dying.
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This look good or should I ditch a copycat for something? I don't think I need two pokeballs.
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>>58997445
Do you think you need 2 Magnezone?
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>>58997464
I mean it's another win condition isn't it?
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>>58997482
You could swap the second Copycat for a couple of things. Sightseer, the stadium that boosts stage 2 damage, a helmet.
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>>58996544
Casuals get mad for "tryharding". I've got a little story for you, back when Smash 4 was about to release
>there was a little night launch party at GameStop
>went to go have fun before the game dropped
>the employees cracked open a copy of the game
>you could get in line to play rounds with other people
>whoever won would get to continue playing, loser would go to the back of the line
>I finally get my chance
>opponent and so far two-time winner was this kinda chubby dude who looked about five or six years older than me, no younger than late 20s
>I picked Marth, he picked Mario
>we go at it
>I wasn't a pro by any stretch of the term, but I had decent enough fundamentals. >this guy plays like an asshole
>ran away, chucked Fireballs from a safe distance, and spammed rolls and shield
>quickly get him figured out and start reading his rolls and baiting his shields
>he starts getting mad
>whenever I predict a shield and grab him, he started yelling at me for "spamming grab" and that grab was a cheap move
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>>58997723
>I don't say anything and just keep reading and punishing him
>nearby employee asks us to calm down
>I pause the game so I can defend myself
>fatso interrupts me and starts yelling that pausing the game threw him off and now he's going to lose and that I cheated
>yeah okay buddy I have a full stock lead on you and am about to take your last one but this is what will cost you the game
>GameStop employee asks us to just "play fair"
>I say that I'm not doing anything unfair and I'm just playing the game
>fatso says I keep using cheap moves
>I say that grabbing is a perfectly fair way to punish shield and that he himself was spamming Fireball and rolls
>Gamestop employee tells us to start the match over and that neither of us should "spam"
>I get mad but what can I do but accept the do-over
>Fat Boy goes right back to spamming Fireball and rolls
>the instant I catch him out and grab him he starts yelling that I'm using cheap moves again
>employee gets mad and tells us we'll have to leave if we can't have manners
>I don't pause this time and talk to the employee but fatso takes advantage and runs up on me with a Smash
>stop talking to the employee and start playing again
>the very instant I grab him he yells about cheap spamming
>employee tells us we both have to leave
>I flip the fuck out and try to defend myself, faggot employee isn't having it and insists we leave
>fatboy seethes that I ruined it for everyone and begs the employee to let him stay
>vindictive little shit that I was, I went outside, got my jackknife out of my backpack, and went to the car I saw fatboy come out of earlier
>start slashing his tires
>he comes out when I'm going to work on the third one and I run like hell
>never went back to that GameStop again
I can still remember the sound of him screaming, both when I was grabbing him in the game and when he saw me with the knife at his tires. I'd have fucked up the employee's car too, if I knew which one it was.
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I hate charitard people so much. Worse than Eeeveelutioners. They always play hydregion. Like dude charitard has never been good so why do you like him? Plus he was a dick to Ash.
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