Thread #59148967
A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?
>Thread question:
How would you fix the state of education in Pokemon?
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>>59148967
What is there to fix? Children go to school to learn the essentials until they're around 10 and then they apprentice to some profession/become trainers/study further
It's significantly better than our current system which is just state day care
Being a pokemon trainer might seem like a hedonistic waste but keep in mind that less than 200 years ago humans were living in constant danger of being killed by pokemon so anyone who can handle pokemon is an asset to the community.
Being a pokemon trainer pays for itself either by odd jobs, the league or transitioning to being a pokemon ranger.
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>>59148967
One word. Government assigned pokemon husband. Giving birth to a minimum of one pokemon egg will be mandatory for every child to graduate from gradeschool.
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>>59149407
every setting has a character like this. Also apparently Poppy is pretty close to some protagonist ages? One year diff. Not that big a deal. If they can be Champions she can be Elite Four.
Though I guess given how Paldea works Elite Four MUST be Champions.
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>>59149459
No one who isn't or isn't taught by the SI/Tanya is allowed to be successful at a young age because that makes my self insert fantasies feel invalidated. It's not allowed okay it's just not fucking allowed fuck you it doesn't make sense for a kid to be successful(unless they're me or Tanya)
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>>59149494
you joke but this has been an actual criticism of TLTD in the SB thread
their suspension of disbelief was broken by the 10 year old simultaneously acting like a 10 year old and being competent
SB gets weird like that, hell a popular fic was bullied into being shut down by two freaks kinda recently
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>>59149459
There's nothing that will not convince me Poppy being 9 was not something they made-up in the DLC because of the backlash towards how fucking retarded her existence is.
She looks, but more importantly, BEHAVES like a toddler, and is treated like a toddler by everyone else. But now I'm supposed to think she's 9? When during 30 years of franchise there's been no other 9 years old who behave like Poppy at all? Yeah, sure bro, whatever.
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>>59149540
TLTD is written in second person(you) so that's probably agitating the self inserters quite a lot. Were they getting mad at Dawn for being competent, or did the MC gremlin act childish and disrupt the manchildren's self insert immersion?
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>>59149684
second person ain't stoppin some from goin "SHE JUST LIKE ME FR FR"
latter, but don't ask me to find it, there are fucking 181207 posts in the thread
ambit's in a mortal battle with reading comprehension and individual psychoses, its a consequence of being a quest
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I'm in the mood for isekai slop any recommendations?
I'm looking for a male protag and no bullshit involving systems or whatever, I have no idea how that shit is still surviving I remember that nonsense back in 2007 Naruto fics did it make a come back?
I don't care if its a generic badge adventure story.
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>>59149606
Pokespe did it anyways for Moon
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>>59150555
there's a meme that says Acerola is older than she looks like because Calem calls her big sister in Mastersex
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>>59148967
Could a human live on nothing but pokemon food?
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>>59150939
If what fanfics have taught me is true, even the leaves of a berry are super foods that will enhance your nutrition to athlete levels. And if it's Sitrus leaves? You might surpass olympians through nutritional benefit alone.
Really weird how mass produced pokemon food is made using dirt and industrial runoff.
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>>59150947
No one has ever thought to feed their pokemon Sitrus berries before anon, it's insane talk. Next, you're going to say you should prepare meals. Literally everyone uses kibble. It's got what pokemon crave! Thankfully giratina knew the world needed a zoophile to save the world.
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new beginnings, he also asks Cynthia for a gun because he doesn't feel safe living in the forest
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yes it is
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>be me
>writing fic
>hmmm...
>i should play factorio
>a thousand weeks pass by
>oh yeah, the fic
>write a few sentences
>feel the pull of the factory
help
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>>59151317
I played hell let loose every waking hour for like 3 years, and then before that took a year break cuz I played it for 1 year, so a total of 4 years and I mean sleeping or playing.
The battlefield calls to me as well.
I have no advice, how could I argue against The Truth.
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>>59151444
Don't worry, Sabrina has the better fate compared to Erika.
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>>59149606
I'm a fan of the 'Poppy looks like this at age 10' concept.
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Why don't her Elite 4 or other Champions tell Geeta off for grooming a child soldier?
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>>59148967
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/20/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Own
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/217949656
Took way too long, but a new chapter of In Mine Own is up!As he and the others prepare to depart for the Kanto Region, Kuzey has time to take stock of any unresolved business he might have in Kalos. And maybe a few things he's waited too long for...
Finally managed to get a chapter written with all the zero free time I've had! Now I need to get back to reading all the threadfics that are piling up.
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>>59152446
Don't worry, as a courtesy I haven't been updating Crystal Light or PokeNormal so people can catch up [/cope]
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>>59148967
would you betray your pokemon to save a city or region?
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>>59153362
https://archiveofourown.org/collections/vpfanfictionthread
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>>59148967
School is a waste of time and money. Just shove a TM with advanced calculus up your ass and instantly become smarter. Humans are smarter than Pokémon, so obviously the TMs they can learn are much more complex.
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>>59150547
Correct, but they can build egg shells with grass and dirt similar to nests or cradles, or since they're humans they use actual technology, wires and all to - wait those are just baby incubators.
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>>59155408
Just dorapelike a normal person
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>>59155592
>Mw my character is the STRONGEST
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>Ask readers “do you want more of *popular thing* to be in the story than initially planned of stick to my original plans?”
>Almost unanimous “do what you were initially planning, we trust you”
Im gonna cry bros T_T
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>>59155630
psychics are a dying breed because they're too autistic to reproduce, just like elves
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>>59155667
aurafags too but for a different reason
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>>59155632
Does he post it somewhere else other than Ao3? I don't see any comments like there there.
Either way that reminds me I have a bet where if he does go through with it I'll have to write an NTR fic where Delphox is saved by a better man and she falls for him instead.
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>>59155632
I respect a man who's vision goes uncompromised, even in the face of controversy and common sense. Its a pokefuck story, the topic is already over the line of decency that the author can include whatever they want on a whim without justification.
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>>59148967
why did the League allowed a known criminal to participate in a worldwide tournament?
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>>59157518
Giovanni is beyond morality
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>>59158209
Does THAT occur in Pasio?
>>59158316
Age maybe, birthday no.
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>>59157702
That kind of selfrighteous modern politics smark on Giovanni on of all people makes me think it's a troonslation. Then again this is Rainbow Rocket Giovanni so he's probably really good at using SJW talking points to manipulate people.
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If you guys have any thoughts, ideas, headcanons, etc about the Dragonfags, Dragon Clan, etc, particularly the Blackthorn people, I'd be happy to hear them. I've got a good idea of what I wanna do with them this time but I'd like to add more depth to it.
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>>59159366
I had a thought that the Blackthorns (or the dragon clan that founded Blackthorn City, whichever you like) were a cadet branch of the Draconids (maybe even an exile family member) and the Draconids revile the Blackthorn Dragonite clans that emerged because Draconid secrets for raising dragons are present elsewhere. You could honestly do this for any “dragon clan” of a region.
I conceived a “Blackthorn family member in Hoenn” story where the Draconids would continuously fuck with the MCuntil Zinnia finally realized they were on the same side and their eventual marriage ended the feud
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>>59159366
In my fic, as a non important background element, conspiracy theorists think that Blackthorn is a mob style family that secretly controls the Indigo League. Its believed that this is why nobody ever stays Champion for long (Blue's immediate loss, Red vanishing for years, and Ethan/Kris/Lyra no longer having the title when Black/White World Tournament rolls around), and why Lance always seems to end up taking the top spot again.They are wrong, and Lance is just the only guy who actually likes being champion enough to work towards retaking the title after he loses it.
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Exploring a new city as the characters go from one tourist spot to the next is giving me trouble tonight for some reason.
I'll likely need to rework it later, but having even a "bad" version of the event order is monumentally helpful for that.
It should be easy coming up with some dumb useless crap they'd try selling at pokemon Jurassic Park though.
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Have a memorable character in the spot, or maybe there’s something all of the people in the building that make it engaging and memorable. If it’s not memorable, it’s not worth writing about. So add some pizzazz and make it memorable.
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>black dragonite
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How far is Seafoam from the Sevii Islands, would one say? Planning sone Sevii-themed stuff and since Moltres' territory is there I was thinking of including the others. Don't know where Zapdos would be but I'll figure something out.
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>>59158446
how do you deal with bad luck in the Pokemon world?
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>>59160447
>No politics, smut, or romance
You want a fanfic with nothing?
>>59159936
Probably because "characters bum around" isn't a plot. Try to think of chapters as a microcosm of the story as a whole, they should have their own structure: set up, dealing with problem, payoff...etc
It's a three act structure is what I'm saying, there's a reason why fights usually start in the begging and middle of a chapter, but rarely the end unless they're a cliff hanger.
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>>59160681
They're actually not bumming around, they're gathering information.
The lab was for some exposition about the city, I need to rework it a few more times to make it more of a tour than just an info dump.
The park is where they'll learn that past paradox pokemon are on display alongside actual fossil pokemon. When one of them tries to escape they'll see future paradox pokemon as the security force which will let them connect the park to the Iron Jugulis that attacked them on the way to the city (which was part of the setup).
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>>59160976
>fossilmons are shitmons
>paradoxmons are super aggressive monsters on par with legendaries
So, they feed Amaura to Iron Bundles, right?
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>>59160992
Actually the Iron Bundles are part of the security force, blasting the exhibits with ice to keep them in their pens when they try to escape.
Aerodactyl hates them so much.
But the idea is to have the zoo segregated by which era in the past the pokemon lived during. The past paradox mons are meant to feel out of place since they were a later addition, much like how in Jurassic Park they started splicing dinosaurs together in later movies to create new attractions.
Though, Dracovish (and the other gen 8 fossils) will cover that role later. They don't show those ones to the public, they're trapped in the labs below as the scientists try to figure out what the fuck happened.
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>>59161033
Plot twist of the century. Galar fossil mons aren't fuck ups. They are in fact a precursor to Eevee's highly mutagenic DNA and are in fact all different split evolutions of the same basic mon. But the mutagenic evolution process was much more unstable in the past so instead of producing a wide variety of viable options they all were maladaptive mutations that worked against their own biology.
Arceus built them wrong as a joke.
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>>59148967
how would you realistically flirt with important characters like Cynthia?
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>>59161429
Built wrong, but built strong.
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>>59159366
They have slightly draconic-like traits such as weird eyes or elongated canines due to having generational Dragon-type energy poisoning, kind of like radiation poisoning. Although it's a very mild case so it's not dangerous, maybe they just have fertility issues or negative dragon-like traits pop up every once and while.
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>>59161851
they will never be a dragon.
but this random fucker is.
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>>59162032
He looks hungry...
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How bad of a joke do you need to tell in order to change the weather? What causes the laws of the natural pokemon world to behave this way?
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>>59161524
The first thing to do is to get yourself in a position where you interact with them often. It's easier to acquire an archeology degree than it is to become a champion trainer so I'd start there and then move to Celestic Town under the guise that you are there for your thesis.
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Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for another Threadfic Review.
Hope you remember your ABCs, because today we’re talking letters. Dimensional Penfriends to be exact.
The story begins with an exchange of letters from two people in different worlds, which is a cool framing device, but it pretty quickly gives way to a more bog-standard isekai journey-fic. It’s a bit of a shame. I think it might have been cool to have a story that was delivered entirely in letter form, with the readers having to fill in the blanks between. Might’ve gotten old quickly though.
Breaking established format, the first thing I gotta talk about is prose, because it kinda shapes all my thoughts about this fic. Dimensional Penfriends is written by an author for whom english is not their first language. Even if I didn't read the comments/notes, it would be pretty clear from the occasional odd word choice and the way certain things are phrased. From that perspective, it's pretty impressive. Certainly better than I've ever done writing in another language. However, that doesn't mean I enjoyed the read. Time for me to be mean for a bit.
First, before we go more in depth, Jesus Christ please don't separate each sentence within a paragraph with line breaks. It makes for an incredibly disjointed reading experience. I'm pretty flexible when it comes to formatting preferences, but this one consistently messed with me and makes several other issues with the prose more apparent.
For example, sentence length. Or rather, sentence cadence. I don't really know the proper word for it. I'm just kinda going on vibes here. Basically, sometimes you should have long sentences, ones that are linked with commas or other punctuation to string multiple ideas together. Other times? Keep it short. To the point. Change it up depending on the tone you're going for. What ideas you want to emphasise. Dimensional Penfriends doesn't really do this much, which makes it drag a bit moment-to-moment.
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The other big thing that prevents it from being an interesting read is how straightforward all the prose is. Basically no use of smilie, metaphor or subtext means that everything comes across as sterile. Like reading an observational report. Or putting your balls in a vice. Dull, but painful.
Anyway, point is that the experience of reading this fic overshadowed a lot of the actual content for me. The plot hasn’t really gone anywhere in particular yet and I don't really feel like I could speak much to the characters of Leo and Teo, or even Lucy and Alice. There's bits of personality here and there – Lucy getting pissed at the shithead trainer and being a bit of a showoff in front of Teo, for example – but I don't think I could really pick out strong character traits or flaws for any of the main cast. The fact that the narration is so unambiguous also means there’s not much to read into.
It also didn’t help that the only times I’ve really heard italian spoken aloud is through Dark Souls meme videos, so every time Leo says anything in his mother tongue it sounds like a nutjob screaming about the abyss in my head.
All that being said, I want more cute romances between humans and pokémon in the world, so if you keep writing I’ll keep reading.
Overall: PERCHE’ STAI CERCANDO IL SOLE NELLA’ABISSO/10
Though you may forget the Threadfic Review, rest assuredit’s coming for you.
Ciao ciao for now.
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>>59164355
That's usually just kinda sad. Also, if it happens midway through a fanfic, it's usually indicative of the author breaking up with their girlfriend and then taking it out on a fictionalized version of her.
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>>59164386
>Fic started in 2026
That's hardly old. On the subject of SB, there's that new Pokemon work crossover I have a personal dislike for, Un Un Un, mainly because I had the same idea but I dislike the characterization of the Regis and the authorial voice.
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>>59164396
explain your post clearly, meanwhile I'll look into it.
Tell us about the fic: Give us a summary that would make us read it.
Fics that make the regi's an unknown sound fun: Unlike born of therapy where giratina comes by to personally tell the MC to fuck his starter...
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It's 4 chapters with 7.9K words in total. And the Regis aren't an unknown, it's an isekai of the minewiped but has Bulbapedia downloaded into their head variety. The Regis the MC Regigigas makes are also too human-esq, except for Registeel but he's barely in it.
It also skips over a lot of stuff I'd find interesting, like Regigigas restoring the sunken Newfoundland, that and the MC doesn't even do a "human in a pooemon's body" thing well because being in the body of a giant robot that shapes continents doesn't seem to have meaningfully changed the mindset of the MC, he thinks and haa human standards. Like when a bunch of supes attack him he's like.
>In no, they're trying to attack me
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>Oh boy, a fight!
Like how I imagine most Pokemon would react.
Basically it doesn't feel like Regigigas and the Regis, it's the same idea I had but the interesting part about the golems being temperamental but helpful robots trying to restore the planet and how their different mindset could cause problem with the native humans is downplayed in favor of the more standard.
>This kaiju looks dangerous
Which would be fine on its own I guess, but the characterization of the Regis and the skipping of interesting things really kills it for me.
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I've mostly only read politics from this thread so my sample size is limited. More seriously Pokenormal doesn't have any of that, but my personal threadfic of the ones I've read is.
>Spice and Fox
>Pokenormal
>Prince of Po Town
>In mine own
>Crystal Light
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>Jesus Christ please don't separate each sentence within a paragraph with line breaks
I read and write on mobile, it helps me write (and read) because i can quickly find the start of every sentence since it . (Look for the line break, go next line, see if that's the line i'm searching for)
>sentence cadence
I don't get it, could you reccomend a fic that does it well?
>smilie, metaphor or subtext
Simile? (Thank you google)
Anyway, i should try and add a bit more of that stuff.
>personality
Yeah, i can't help much with that, it's all planned for later chapters
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KNOWN ALLEGATIONS AGAINST WRITEFAGS
Pofag is the CEO of HUMILIATION RITUAL, KEKOLDRY, and weight gain. Possible Sabrina torturer and spreader of (royal) AIDs. Ian fvcks Hyde DAILY. Put him in his place every HOUR. Makes him his bitch every SECOND while Selene cries like a bitch for being a jobber and Suszy-mary bloats to the size of a plent.
Spicefag is Gordy's BITVCH and has a Phd in Cuckoldry (also excellent in monsterfucking). takes place in South East Asia, aka, trannies, aka ladyboys galore
IMOfag is a disgusting fag/nigger/jew of lesbomancy, incest, and femdom known as a woman. Also into snuff and vague posts about torturing Sabrina. (almost snuff. Do it IMOfag. DO IT.)
PokeNormal/Crystal Light fag cucks his best friend, makes everyone job to his OC villain, and fills his fics with sexy Erikas and fuckable rats.
CCfag is into raping mentally ill retards, mindrape, snuff and necrophillia.
Penfriendsfag HASN'T FUCKed HIS POKEMON YET.
Saulfag has a bachelor's degree in Humiliation Ritual and makes PIDGEY-SAMA job.
Penfriendsfag is a shitalian Portuguese who's in the edging to little foxes phase at the moment (FVCK HER ALREADY YOU DAVINCI MF).
Mahoganyfag only fvcks bratty dragons into submission and not the better options. (Fvck Sneasel rn you dumb bitch.)
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>>59155615
it's still fun though
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>>59164604
>pidgey sama mentioned
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>>59159366
uhh just thinking about it now I'd probably have them as being for passionate and hot-headed and stubborn as a rule, which is something clan elders specifically recognize and organize the entire clan structure about reining this behavior in and mastering oneself, the reason for which to prevent the kind of strife they brought to the ancient world due to being predisposed to being trainers of powerful pokemon and very ambitious and driven to be warlords and the like long ago.
Hence why Lance is so cool and collected having mastered the tenets of the clan to a extreme degree, with Clair being impressive in her own right but still childish in manner, having a long way to go
I'd have other people with old johto family be kind of wary of them due to remembered tragedies (maybe an ancient dragon clan warlord was trying to capture Lugia and burned down the brass tower and much of Ecruteak). Kanto would be less so as they would've been largely contained to the west of the region and Lance had done a lot to reform the clan's image both there and johto, to a degree
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>>59164845
Reminds me that Oda Nobunaga, the ambitious 'Demon King' of samurai era Japan, is a dragon type trainer in Conquest. Now there were a lot of ambitious warlords, but none of them got called the king of hell.
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>>59164730
>Erika is a feeder lusting after Ian's ex-GG
>Sabrina is a kinky bitch that wants to fuck her eyeholes
I wonder how fucked up Rainbow Rocket Misty will be? I wonder how Surge puts up with these bitches, no wonder he took a jump at gaueding the Ultra rift.
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>>59164604
I beseech you, add “King of Crashouts” to CC’s allegations.
>>59165266
>Erika is a feeder
No. She just wantsthe world’s Zygarde trainer to remain a spoiled brat for as long as possible.
I’m in no way confirming anything, but a line of AU twisted Kanto gym leaders would be an interesting thought experiment (assuming you took something away from each of them).
>Brock
Perhaps his spirit was put into an actual golem? (Not the Pokemon, an actual being made of minerals) Maybe a suit of armor or something to not be so weird/edgy. Whatever it is, he needs it to survive now.
>Misty
Some sort of diving accident (or biological re-engineering) so she has to stay inside an underwater suit forever.
>Surge
Doesn’t feel pain (idk, something to do with nerves)
>Erika
Cannot taste or smell. Considering she enjoyed the scents of flowers and likely taste of fruits/veggies, losing this makes her a cold hearted bitch.
>Sabrina
Maybe don’t take the eyeballs out, just make her paralyzed from the waist down and going around in a Professor X style hoverchair or whatever the fuck. (I think someone suggested something like this in an earlier thread)
>Koga
Has his consciousness placed into his daughter’s body.What did he lose? His dick
>Blaine
Sabrina gets to keep her eyes, so Blaine loses one of his. Eyepatch man and only seeing the world one way or something “deep.”
>Giovanni
Idk, take away his retardation so he’s power hungry AND competent?
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>>59165506
>Idk, take away his retardation so he’s power hungry AND competent?
Do an Earth-3 Lex Luthor and he's actually a good guy trying to sabotage the team from within to protect other worlds from their ambition
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>>59165506
Look only the female gym leaders matter and I'm going to be honest not having a sense of smell isn't hot at all. Sabrina being wheelchair bound isn't hot either but it's tragic enough to be romantic, and mermaid Misty is find. Heck wetsuits are hot and I'd be fine with Misty imtrapped in a wet suit.
Gon no honest Koga isn't up my alley but I know some people who'd like that. Same thing with Brock but Surge is just lame and Blaine should be a poke fucked because Mewtwo genes.
What I'm saying is that bad end gym leaders need to have romantic or fetish appeal.
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>>59158161
Well I just hope I won't have to live up to my end of the deal, I'm not sure if Braxien being raped but it not being shown would count or not.
Either way the 15th is coming up fast so I can always ask Spicefag then when he posts in this thread.
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>>59165944
I like leaving things up to the reader's imagination. Way more effective as a tool. The degree of ass-fluster I've gotten has pleased me, too. Haven't written any associated smut for the storyyetthough. Anyone who says there's smut is lying.
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I'll take that as confirmation that she gets raped off screen, but my question is moreso if off screen rape counts for the purpose of the bet.
It was specified you writing a rape scene so I don't think it will, but I'm negotiating with a friend, not you, so I suppose it depends on how that conversation will go down.
Either way it's a daring direction, and I'm interested to see what you have in store for next chapter.
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>>59166002
Meme answer would be any of the regions that don't have 8 badges.
Serious answer is probably Paldea because you can do them out of order and the gym leaders do not give a fuck about keeping the challenge level even with how many badges you have.
They're also one of two regions where every single gym leader uses the broken gimmick.
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>>59166009
Yes, why wouldn't it be specifically Braxien? The bet was made a couple days after you posted Echo: Braxien, with the bet being that you'd write a scene where she gets raped since a Team Haze member talks about raping her.
Sure Carol is probably a rape victim, but neither me or my friend think it's likely you'll write a flashback of her getting raped.
But who knows, maybe Holly will get raped. You did vague post about something happening with/to her.
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>>59164576
I simply don't enjoy it in 90% of stories and that number goes to 99% in pokemon stories.
>That's a staple in most fictional stories?
Having romance is much different from being romance. Like, Vicky HAS politics but The New Normal IS politics. And there was that period where every movie had to have a smut scene, but that didn't make them smut films.
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>>59166657
Well I help you have good progress, I've been doing fine on Mahogany. Decided to break chapter 3 up into two and have a draft for chapter 4, 5, and an outline for 6. Still probably won't start actively posting again until summer since I'm working on other things.
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>>59166002
Galar, not because they're le strongest, but because it's a nepobaby region so unless you get a ***endorsement*** you cannot even try for it.
Same for Alola iirc. Don't you need to get nepoentered by one of the Kahunas or the Tapus or else you aren't allowed? I think the Z-Rings are monopolized the same way. Likewise with Dynamax Bands. And iirc you need a permit to obtain a Tera Orb too so those are monopolized too.
Funny, this makes Megas the only one gimmick that's earned through genuine merit. It's not withheld not monopolized by any particular person or organization. You can even buy the components freely or find them in the wild too. And keystones are customizable too for peak /fa/. Mega has yet again proven itself to be the superior and best gimmick.
Kind of sidetracked there.
Meme answer aside, hard to say.
Paldea would be piss-easy since it's a weak shitter region and the leaders don't even like being leaders. The easiest even. That's the only one I would say with certainty is not the hardest region.
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>>59166075
Having spent some time actually re-reading some bits of Penfriends, I have realised my explanation for cadence is hot garbage and doesn't actually address the issue I was trying to get at. I apologise.
I've read up a bit on the concept (when I should've been working) and found a decent explanation in The Art of Fiction, specifically the section 'The Sentence', starting on page 178 of my epub. Basically, when speaking aloud you say things with a certain rhythm. You can emulate that rhythm in writing by using word choice and punctuation, which in turn influences how your reader 'hears' the sentence in their head. There's a lot more that goes into it than just sentence length and, after comparing to some other fics, there's not actually any issue with your sentence length. I was just kind of grasping at straws because I've done a lot of reading but I've never actually studied english beyond a high-school level.
I dunno if I can really get more detailed without shitting up the thread with walls of text, but I'll post a mega link to an epub of the book if you or anyone else wants to have a read.
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>>59148967
How would weddings be like in the Pokemon world? Like grass-type Pokemon throwing flowers
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>>59167762
That reminds me, what do people think of professors giving out pokemon? In Spice and Fox William's given Fennekin out of three choices as sort of an international standard that the Pokemon Association does with their starter program where they hand out a Grass, Water, and Fire-type. I think something similar happens in PoPT's world since Ian references pokemon as being Starters and no one raises an eyebrow at it, more or less the same thing happens in IMO as well.
I was just wondering since it never made much sense in my mind. You rarely see trainers with starter pokemon in early gens and you're given a starter pokemon usually due to the special circumstances of working with a professor. So it's not like they're handed out like hotcakes or anything, the player's circumstances are special. In a sense the pokemon given to you is a form of endorsement. Is there a particular fic which popularized this trend of Starters not being something specific to the protagonist or is it just one of those fandom things that people don't question.
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>>59168767
For traditional weddings, there’d still be a lot of the same stuff like groomsmen, bridesmaids, etc. Or maybe if they’re both trainers, their Pokemon replace bridesmaids/groomsmen. If they wanted to keep their friends involved, maybe their first/most iconic Pokemon stood behind each trainer. I think the smallest Pokemon between them would be the ring bearer.
>>59168916
I’d largely agree with the “it’s a fandom thing” (although youre more than right to question it). In my headcanonI’m Pofag, starters are given out to top trainer prospects from trainer schools, meaning not everyone gets them. This doesn’t stop people from becoming trainers, or even acquiring starters (if your family’s got the money). This doesn’t get much light in PoPT because it’s not relevant to the plot, but it’s going on in the background (and explains why Selene and Hyde have Alolan starters).
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>>59168968
Perhaps I should focus on how bad the other squads are at battling, because Selene was a top 10 trainer in Team Skullbefore Ian showed up and protag’d Tupp into prominence with him
Hyde hasn’t truly battled onscreen yet, and I’m trying to fit a 3v3 battle with Ian in somewherenow that his Pokemon are jacked up on EXP Candybefore the wheels of this arc really start turning.
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>>59148967
any fic with a pervert MC?hard mode: no smut
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>>59168985
If you feel like you have to then do it if you want. Although it's fine to have those two be bums, not everyone is going to be strong. Maybe have them train together, since they're both kind of fuck ups and they are spare characters it'd probably be fine to pair them off as friends (vitriolic or not) since they both need to train and it'd give each of their characters another relationship to play off of aside from each of them already having a dynamic with Ian and Plumeria.
Even if you want Hyde to eventually turn villain or make such a big fuck up he's banished I think giving him an extra relationship beyond Plumeria, Ian, or the mutual dislike between him and Irida. Especially since it feels like he has more or less the same dynamic as with Ian and Tupp and I don't really see any potential with Sophocles having a dynamic with him.
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>>59168916
In my head, the idea is that it's not a universal standard that every single new trainer is given, and is more like a mentorship that has become something of a tradition among Pokemon Professors. It's done for trainers the Professors have taken a special interest in, and is typically a Grass, Water, or Fire-type because they're an excellent introduction into the spectrum of Types. The species chosen also have multiple evolution stages and tend to evolve relatively early, so they're a great way for a new trainer to learn about Pokemon care and quickly see the results of their training pay off.
The average trainer is likely to either use a family pet, a partner they captured near home like a Rattata or a Bug-type, or like in Kuzey's case they start with a Pokemon gifted to them by their parents.IMOanon, btw.
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>>59165044
>what an interesting game
it sure is
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>>59169006
Hyde being on a border squad is the closest I can get to banishment without being an actual banishment. I’m hoping I can put the 3v3 Hyde fight in to show he’s competent (and also has perfect counters for Ian’s team).Not to mention it’ll be a nice teaser for their big 6v6 showdown in arc 6.
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That makes sense, it's pretty similar in Mahogany. I was thinking of it since in Mahogany the common trio that Johtonians would think of is Psychic-Fighting-Dark since there isn't a universal compulsory education system like in Kanto, and because of historical cultural reasons. Some of the exposition on that is getting spread out between three, the split chapter four, and then the new chapter 6. It's 5 years before Oak would even give Red, Blue, and Green their respective starters as part of an endorsement of some sort and to help them test his pokedex prototypes. So he hasn't set a precedent yet of giving out Fire-Grass-Water starters to promising trainers yet.
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>>59168040
Ok, i read the link's page and how you put it sounds a bit complicated but i think i got the gist of it with the example now, i think our /lit/ prof explained something like that back in middle school.
But i also personally think the punctuation looks odd to use like that for the narrator unless it's describing something happening.
But i can see the parts where my characters are speaking as a good use case for it all, because i think i'm relying a bit much on describing small gestures in the middle of their sentences...*
I guess i'll have to load up on dots and commas at the store since they're free, no em dashes and semicolons though, because i hate them :)
But the sentence part is cool, i actually did cut down a few sentences for fear fo them being too long and not fit (lel) into the rest of the fic.
*rant about gesturesThe gestures part is important since gestures here are the norm (which teachers look down on as "unprofessional", but fuck those posh fags honestly), but it also means many moments with no gesture described actually DO have a gesture i see as obvious enough to avoid including because i don't wanna bog down the fic with them. I can't have the chapter be half descriptions of small gestures, i gotta pick and choose.
>>59168308
Yeah, i like reading walls of text too when it's about the thread's topic (which imo this is more on topic than Pidgey-Sama The Great Sand Launching Avian, no matter how funny it is to post about its impressive feats), but i can see not wanting to write a dozen posts worth of text too, it might feel like spam to some
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>>59165678
The one with the move tutor, after a while I just didn't care anymore. Also found the flying Nemona one to have gotten stale after some time. Maybe the battles got too rigid?
As for fics here, sorry writebros, but Penfriends, CC and Crystal Light were just snoozes. The first two have large patches where nothing substancial happens and in CL, I think it just felt dry? Like I was being told how hte characters were than just being shown (CC is even worse plus the pacing being horrid.)
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>>59169578
Yes. I also have ADHD, so I write my battles to be interesting for the ADHD mind. Length is not the issue, the issue is that nothing interesting happens within those 10 paragraphs to make them worth reading.
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>>59161524
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>>59169955
I do sometimes read the dialogue while skipping the action, but it's mostly characters commentating the battle like Dragon Ball characters
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>>59169612
This anon gets it.
Decks Exist to be Stacked has whole chapters dedicated to a single battle and it works because the battles are mostly a field to test the relationship dynamic of the pokemon on the team. Helps that it's told from the perspective of one of the pokemon instead of the trainer, but still. Battles should be used to develop characters and the actions taken within should have implications beyond whether the trainer gets a fucking badge or not.
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>>59170296
bro throw squirrels n birds n shit in nobody gonna give a fuck
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>>59170314
well in that case go fuck yourself faggot
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>>59170296
Yeah, for some reason the fandom's spergs are okay with that. Just not animals for some reason, even though neither bugs or animals should exist. It's a really weird collective autism some of the fandom has
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>>59170558
For Crystal Light, the flashbacks being confusing. I assume its fair because it's a consistent complaint about the first two chapters. I'm not entirely sure if there is a solution I like over 'readers will deal', but I guess 'present - flashback - present - flash back to a later event - present' is too much jumping around maybe. Or I'm not being clear enough with what is happening so it takes a moment for readers to figure out. Part of me wants to keep it as is because I feel like changing it might be dumbing it down, but its a common enough complaint that I can't deny the possibility that there is something wrong with it.
For PokeNormal, its the 'cringe potential' as I like to call it. Creepy pastas and just plain crack fic level elements are a major part of the story. The concept of the fic is pretty much silly things taken seriously while also still remaining silly. That silliness runs the risk of becoming eye rolling, and even the very first comment I ever got on it was saying some parts were 'too much'. And its definitely got some moments that I feel are major risks of 'jumping the shark' over silliness that might be too much for some readers. But oh well.
Also, titty tax.
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>>59170678
From what I've read of pokénormal so far, taking the silliness seriously is basically the biggest draw of the fic. Yeah it's fucking dumb that there's a demon jpeg trapped in a computer, but the fact that it is still treated as a legitimate threat by the characters instead just being a joke is cool. Keeps it feeling surprisingly grounded, despite all the wacky stuff happening.
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>>59170558
Not enough understanding of Rook’s influence over Guzma beforehe imprisons Ian at the end of Arc 3.The “gut punch” becomes too ass-pully. No idea why I didn’t want to do a Guzma POV but for some reason I really didn’t want to.
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>>59170678
Don't listen to thim, that's Pokenormal's whole appeal. The pitch even.
If you want something really cringy read Ian and Plumeria's shooting star conversation because how our of left field it feels with the rest of PoPT. But yes >>59170977 that is worse then Plumeria's silly conversation.
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Caraway scales to actual human players which makes her many times better than any other NPCs like Leon or Red.
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Jobs to Team GO Rocket, who invaded the real world
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>>59171690
From lowest to highest, how do we rate threadfic MC's?
Personally I'd say:
Leonardo (Penfriends), Troy (Saul) are kind of in the same tier, though I expect Troy to turn into someone who can at least hold his own.
Kuzey (IMO), Rhys (Mahogany) sort of got hte same energy, sort of not. Since Kuzey has won some fights and been though some bullshit already I'll rate him higher over Rhys, but at least Rhys (kind of) wants to dom Clair, unlike the other rapebait bitch. Actually nvm, Rhys, you have more aura mathematically speaking.
Wol (Crystal Light) sits kind of in the middle I guess. He's cool if a little boring.
Tobio and Josalyn (PokeNormal) are on the same tier. Despite having no real prowess in Pokemon battles, they're cool as fuck.
And on the top I'd say Ian (PoPT).
Haven't read Spice and Fox or CC yet, but judging from the discourse I've read, William would be somewhere between Wol and Ian. CC's protagonist would be in hte lower end of the spectrum.
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>"For the record, I've actually met a real life Aura Channeler or whatever the equivalent is, but trust me, they're not anything like in the comic books. They're not allowed to partake in pro trainer battles, among a whole list of other things. Last I heard he's in a psych ward now. Being that in tune with the natural world does things to you."
t. Grimsly
Ian can't have aura by the logic of his own story then.
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>>59171835
I meant to respond to >>59171748
But this works as well, on that note.
>Kuzey (IMO), Rhys (Mahogany)
Makes sense they're both smart-types who can be anxious and have a relationship with headstrong girl. Ones just sadistic while the other one is not-exactly masochistic, just cute submissive and breedable.
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>>59171820
There was a commenter a while back on Ao3 who mentioned being excited for “Ian getting aura” in the first few chapters and abruptly deleted their comments and never appeared again probably after getting to this part with Grimsley. I wish I could’ve seen the look on their face.
On a similar note, after fighting an Alpha Stonjourner that used Gravity, I’m debating whether I have Ian say something to Grimsley about Gravity training and have Grimsleylaugh in a very patronizing way and say it’s a shortcut to permanent joint damage for his Pokemon or something like that.
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>>59171922
I think it depends how realistic Pokemon biology is in PoPT, in Mahogany it'd 100% be bone damage since Pokemon have specialized organs and physics also works differently (not very relevant desu), I think you had Colress give an explanation of how "core light"? And Pokemon biology work but immy eyes glazed over that conversation because of how weird it was. (not weird in a sense it doesn't make sense for Ian to ask the question, the entire thing just seemed irrelevant to the story since core light doesn't come up again)
Although I do think the joke's funny.
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>>59171922
Pofag, I know you use Alpha Pokémon because you were inspired by Legends Arceus, but why don't use Totem Pokémon too? They were introduced in Alola and Wicke confirmed they're like that because of Ultra wormhole energy
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>>59171933
>The Colress convo
That whole thing likely felt weird because it was essentially me explaining the mechanics that the Pokemon world runs on in the story (and any successive story I write dessu). I wanted it in there to assure readers there was a consistent way things work in the world (or that I at least I was paying attention to the consistency since I hadn’t done any real trainer on trainer battles at that point). Probably the one thing that does indirectly come up again is when he talks about the recharge time for powerful moves in battles. Faller Colress being from a different universe let me use my headcanon names for everything instead of the fanfic community’s commonly accepted headcanon names for everything.
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Now I just need a Unovan sap whose firsthand experience caused this knowledge.I’m thinking Hugh.
>>59171955
It’s a good question that I also got on FFN recently. They’re really similar, too similar for me to want to make them very distinct (although they are powered up in different ways). Also it would essentially break the spirit of the “one Alpha per team” rule I put in to discourage min-maxing.Every rule or limit I put on teambuilding has been made with Suzy-Marie and certain multiverse peeps in mind.Considering we have Z-Moves, Megas, Alphas, Legendary Blessingsand Gigantamax without the “Giganta” part down the lineI feel like I’m already putting in too many “this but BETTER” elements and don’t want to push it by throwing Totems in there. Even though yes, they would definitely be running around.
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>>59171748
Only cool guys are aurafags anyway everybody else is an auralet
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Aurafags are so funny bros, thinking they're hot shit because they can only punch harder
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>>59170289
My surprise was more at how many starters the professors are implied to give out, the pokemon association even has a whole program behind it and it feels like a bunch of people get them, at least that was my impression from the Fennekin chapter as well as the first chapter. When in the games professors don't really seem to have a whole system for giving out starters it's more like.
>I need you for a job
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>Hey kid I've stumbled upon, here's a pokemon so you don't get yourself killed.
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>>59172459
Hey man, blame the hack writers for that. Aura itself is more versatile and nuanced than punch harder, it should be similar Psi-powers when written correctly.
That people equate aura with Fightfags is evidence that typical fanon is retarded. I mean, the only pokemon that has Aura Sphere as an innate move is Togekiss and Squirtle, every other pokemon needs levels or TMs to learn it. And then there are all the other aura moves and abilities, which most Fighting pokemon don't have access to.
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>>59172895
>t. Says the dude in a psych ward
It's such a shame Hugh from all of his Liepard's bones, at least he's sane enough to regret it unlike you aura psychos.
This is why aura channeling and gravity training need to be outlawed.
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>aura
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have you tried just having fun?
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>>59172935
The edgelord driven by revenge and a chip on their shoulder can never match the edgelord driven by pure hearted glee. Why should you have to isolate yourself, why not make friends as you raze towns and torture innocents? They don't 'understand you'? You want to make them 'feel what you felt'? Destroy everything, but for yourself, just because. Let them come up with the explanations, let them try to define you. Just have fun bro.
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That they were frauds
>B-but
FRAUDS
Zinnia didn't survive because she's super human, Fugg is just that weak
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>>59173029
You get some fascinating takes like the guy that was assblasted that IMOfag's OC defeated Juliana to steal Chien-Pao, because OC villains shouldn't be allowed to defeat game protags. And then it turned out he didn't even defeat her, she just let him take it.
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>>59172895
>Aura itself is more versatile and nuanced than punch harder, it should be similar Psi-powers when written correctly.
Unironically how, like man look at any Lucario and how their main appeal is just punching harder and ki blasts even in smash
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>>59173312
It was, and just a guy iirc but shit got buried by some ESCALATION fight between autists.
But Pokémon PCs are still humans so in a world where everyone isn't retarded like in the games they can lose to someone smarter even if they have better teams
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>>59173312
>Went back and checked the archives
>Celot appears earlier on than I remember
>Feel self conscious for some reason
Sometimes I feel like my pacing is too slow paced, other times I think it's too fast. Well that's my fault lol
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>>56990663 also IMO spoilers >>56998503
November of 2024, I think there was another conversation like this before IMO began posting? At least I remember a similar reaction when me and IMO anon were talking about Chien-pao and Celot back then, or I might be conflating certain conversations.
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>this was a year and a half ago
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>>59173462
Considering Smash Bros has plenty of elementalist and abstract fighters it's not really an excuse. Sakurai or whoever handed him the script got too obsessed with whatever was in the Lucario movie which can be summarized as "blue energy and punching hard"
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>>59173516
That same logic can be applied to Mewtwo with purple energy. Especially funny when you consider they share the same energy ball shot attack. To be clear, the only thing Mewtwo can do that Lucario can't in smash is stun enemies. Meanwhile the same goes for Lucario in all that he has is a counter attack. Mewtwo can also teleport a few feet away, but its hard to say its a feat over Lucario when Lucario's counter has it moving so fast it looks like its teleporting. I'm not counting Lucario's 'get stronger the more damage it has taken' because that ultimately is just punching harder.
Anyways, the takeaway here is that Psychic and Aura is the same.
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>>59173640
>the takeaway here is that Psychic and Aura is the same.
I'm pretty sure most of us here already accepted that, though I like more when trainers are stated to be physical monsters to keep up with their team's training over powers.
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>>59173029
I ended up doing it very casually. MC has a Magearna, one of the heroines has a sword that is VERY BLATANTLY the one that is Chien-Pao's teeth and I am planning to integrate either Type:Null or Mewtwo (or both) down the line as some dude's super powerful homunculus created for war or defense or some shit
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>>59173029
It really depends, I was think on having my MC befriend a Zygarde but it would stay as a core for the most time like in the anime