>>3957705
first game is the most broken but also feels the best to play. the second game confuses being "bigger" with being "better" and a lot of the rebalances and additions actually end up feeling worse. don't know anything about 0, CotC is gachaslop.

>>3957705
I tried the first game. One of the ugliest games I've ever played. I can't stand all the post processing bullshit effects they slapped on. "Look at these beautiful pixels ... but not over there or there, because we put a darkening vignette to obscure the screen AND an extreme depth of field blur everywhere."
Combat-wise, I loved it. The stories I thought were really solid too.
But more than the graphics I absolutely despised the structure. Reading the first chapter of 8 different books, then sequentially reading the next chapter of each of them is atrocious. And the game doesn't appear to be beatable without it, because they gatelock so much behind high level encounters. It's like an mmo. I put the game down after getting four people and realizing I'd need to get them all to continue. I don't think I've ever played a more frustrating and disappointing game. Will never touch the sequels.

>>3957705
When I realized that there are only actually 4 path actions with 2 different flavors each it killed a lot of my interest in the game. It made the characters feel less special when their gimmick isn't actually unique to them.

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I didn't expect partitio to talk like a yakuza guy

I'm not really experienced with japanese accents, is it supposed to be recognizable as a regional way of speaking or something?

>>3957705
They're pretty good. My favorite of the main jobs is the Scholar, with Apothecary coming in second.

OSVALD SEXO
>>3957943
Kansai-ben dialect (kind of) like Agnea's.
"Uneducated" country bumpkin equivalent in anime.

I thought the first one was bad. The combat is grindy and the characters' stories are all generic. I'd rather have one interesting campaign than eight boring campaigns.

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>>3957705
My opinion is sex with Ochette

>>3958393
Uggo.
I'd rather Kyastti.

>>3957865
I don't know enough about graphic design or art so the first point you mentioned wasn't something I would have experienced. The mechanics of the game, coupled with the interwoven stories, was enough for me to really enjoy my time playing it. The second game as well. They have superbosses, something else I really like.

I knew going in that it would be juggling the stories since it mirrored SaGa Frontier in that regard, so it was a non-issue. I can see why it would be frustrating for somebody wanting to experience a whole, fluid narrative though.

I haven't tried 0, dunno if I will. It looks like it took mobile then slapped on a bunch of shine to call it a game. I might play it if I get it cheap, otherwise meh. The first two games are good though.

>>3958438
>I haven't tried 0, dunno if I will.
It has a really slow start but it's another case of "it gets good after 10 hours".
They brought the build autism to the next level. Not only you have 8 active members, most of the skills of each member can be taught to the others, you can do a lot of cool shit with this system.
The town builder part is also fun.
If you enjoyed the other two games for the mechanics there's no way you won't also enjoy 0.

>>3957943
This nigga missing out on the PEAK that is southern Partitio KEK

>>3958821
not really

>>3958418
Nigga you’re ugly

>>3959124
Explain. His southern accent adds a lot of charm to his character.

>>3958821
>>3959861
Dubs are cancerous.

I'd like to bench Phenn but his ultimate is so fucking op.

>>3959881
OT2 dub is kino

>>3959910
I've seen people use him for the superboss to survive damage from that fight. Otherwise, he's been benched for most of my playthrough.

>>3959881

>>3958393
I’m not a furry but she can get it

>>3959881
You will never be Japanese

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>>3957705
1 is a good start for a series though i want to strangle whoever came up with the true last boss (the fight itself is amazing but the path to said fight..)
2 is better but also worse than 1 in a way, maybe i rate 2 higher than it should because some of jap seiyuu i like are there+ochette has kinda fun monster catching mechanic
CotC is okay if you are fine with passive protag. Gameplay is watered down from other games but with 8 niggas instead of 4. Suffers from being a gacha where powercreep is absurd, dupes being important for some characters and its an old game so fuckton of timegated shit you must grind to do mid-endgame stuff
Didn't bother to play 0 because i heard its basicly single player CotC with more story. Probably better to play this instead of CotC if you never played that before
My problem with octopath 1 and 2 is the lack of level scaling but routes keeps track of character levels from other routes you cleared which ruins the difficulty. Early on you can simply avoid using high leveled chars but later on impossible to do so unless you self handicap like doing 2-3 niggas party

>>3959881
It's cool if you prefer the original audio but dubs have come a long way. Voice actors do a great job and not everybody wants to read text when there is other stuff on the screen to look at. I know you're being hyperbolic but it comes off as idiotic.

>>3960027
I mean they could very well be Japanese, saying what they did simply because they desperately want people to listen to their native tongue instead of some imposter voice actors.

>>3960044
Sex with Tressa

>>3960061
Don't sex Tressa

>>3960079
Only ot0 Tressa because she’s 15

It's incredible how these games become 10x better once you start skipping all scenes.
Truly mysterious.

>>3959910
I've made good use out of him through Thundering Cleave/Rain of Arrows and the Merchant skills since access to Axes and Bows is pretty good.

>>3959937
Not really, but the written dialogue already sucked to begin with

>>3957865
Dislike the graphics
Hate the battle system. Worse weakness systems than the persona/SMT games
Tolerate the music, but could've been more diverse
Sees the potential of the concept, but the execution is worse than Live a Live

>>3961058
>Worse weakness systems than the persona/SMT games
Are they not basically the same thing except you need more weakness hits here? I've never understood all the praise SMT gets for its battle system. Is there something I'm missing beyond "Hitting a weakness gets you an extra turn"? I've only played P3 and SMT V

>>3961064
>Is there something I'm missing
No, that's literally it. Weakness system is nothing like Persona/SMT because you already know the bigger focus is on hitcounts + breaking + concentrated burst damage for Octopath compared to just getting more actions upon hitting a weakness instead.

>>3961064
My complain is that the playable characters didn't have weaknesses themselves, and persona/smt have a more nuanced resistance system (repel/resist/drain/null). This is a big problem for me, I want consistent themes and rules since they marketed it like a system from the beginning
Also I'm not arguing in favor of Press Turn btw, I find that system bad too, as you said, "Hit weakness gain extra turn"

>>3960054
It's not a matter of quality.
If you use dubs you're actively spitting in the face of the devs and shitting on the game.

>>3961376
Brainlet take

Reime FUCKS

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>>3961661
Using dubs is like playing retro games like this.

>>3961789
Reime + Cyrus and you're generally good on the physical and elemental damage fronts.

>>3957705
Lifeless sandbox. May as well play Crystal Project.

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Oh, they put this back. It was absolute bonkers in the first game.

>>3957705
The battle system is "fine" but feels pretty shallow. The real deathblow to the game for me is how the campaign is structured. I originally expected something like SaGa Frontier with 8 characters whose different stories sometimes overlap. Instead it's
>recruit this guy
>skip his intro
>play his chapter 1 or whatever
over and over and over and it sucked ass. Basically fuck that game. Also I found most of the characters uninteresting.

Holding paws with Isla

>>3962112
>Crystal Project
Another lifeless sandbox, but at least more engaging combat and mechanics.

Tell me about Olberic. Why is his blade unbending

>>3962379
He's a big guy

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>>3958393
Sexo

>Game is about 8 different completely isolated stories
>Characters in your party have absolutely 0 effect on any story quests that aren't their own
>No necessary order for all the stories
>Most of the content barring optional endgame stuff isn't very difficult
>You need to change comps for path action diversity when not in a dungeon/the wilderness
>Despite all of the above they STILL force you to keep your first character in the party all the time until you complete their story, forcing them to be over levelled and limiting who you want to have in your party based on path actions
Genuinely, what the fuck were they thinking?

>>3958438
octopath 0 strips some of the fun game play away by removing concoct and summons..
>>3958511
>11
the town building is nice tho, and story relevant in a way.

Where the f*ck are the Saoirse lewds

>>3957705
Are these games actually good or are they just riding on nostalgia

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I'm spending way too much time on this.

>>3963851
Job system simulator with a very lifeless open world, and generic save the world main story.

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This game just never fucking ends, holy shit.

>>3964136
so close to the finish line .... to get the 'crown', then ya gotta get the true ending and the real boss battle.
lul.

>>3964085
>Job system simulator
The job system is so minor in these games what are you talking about

>>3963973
Very /comfy/ anon

>>3964182
It's a tourist trying to bait.

>>3964136
>>3964158
Save your ultimate gauge refill items for Dohter's spam the superboss. "Golden Ending" boss can be mogged with Dohter's + ult spam as well, especially when you have Sniper for your entire back row.

>>3964182
>what are you talking about
Why are you asking this when you dont have anything else to argue?
>>3964485
Oh look a shill who cant defend their game. Typical for an octopath fan.

Threw the pole

>>3964485
>tourist
What is this cope kek

You don't neee to reply twice btw

>>3964487
What do you mean, dohter?

>>3964638
nvm I see what you meant.
Honestly I've been mogging every boss with Reime, how much of a pain are galdera and the super boss?

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>>3964678
.............what a fucking stupid gimmicky fight.

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Fucking seriously? That was it?

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Aaaaand done, I'm finally free.
Very short review:
-While I enjoyed the customization and freedom, they need to do something about the difficulty, it was way too fucking easy. This is the third time and it only got worse.
-Too many skills that do the same shit.
Don't give me "axe attack that does 1.4x damage", and then "axe attack that does 1.8x damage". We have boost for that, don't waste a slot like this, give me something unique.
Not sure why I'm writing this as no dev will ever read it.
-The game was way more story driven, too bad I didn't give a single fuck about any character, and I just started skipping all scenes at some point. This has happened in every game. Hire better writers already.

See you in octo 3 niggas.

>>3964789
Dev here, fuck you

Hopefully they'll add extra challenges as in OT2.

>>3964732
>Takes OP characters
>Whines that it’s too easy
Why are women like this?

>>3965020
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you must use shit characters because............ because....... because I say so okay?!?!?!?!

>>3965010
I hope they don't. I genuinely disliked OT0 after the honeymoon phase ended... sometime during the Bestower arcs.

>>3965300
If you use Reime you didn't play the game, simple as.

>>3965550
We dont give a shit about your marital issues, brom

So, we're all in agreement that Cyrus, H'aanit, Bargello, Richard, Saoirse, and Reime belong in the top tier of Octopath 0?

>>3960442
Phenn and Pious were mainstays on my team. Their Ultimates were very useful whenever I was fighting the little mini boss enemies in areas I definitely should not have been in. I also gave Phenn the skill that lets you choose an equipped weapon and attack 5-8 times as well as Mystic Shot for SP management. Therion, who was mainly there for his thievery skill set, was my designated charge donate bot.

>>3969181
Pius's ultimate is so good for the sheer damage swing it faciliates, and I agree that Phenn's damage reduction can be a big boon for battles with big dick damage bosses/enemies. If I used his ultimate more and in smart ways in the Warbringer Phantom battle, I probably wouldn't have needed an Almighty Olive.

>>3969215
I missed and whiffed a break opportunity against that boss and had to do the same thing, even when I was alternating (and occasionally layering the last turn if I had a bad turn order next turn) their ultimates. I feel like it was a worthwhile expense, considering how early I took down the boss.

>>3957705
around its launch I had a lot of money from a windfall and I was retarded so I bought it at full price along with a bunch of other stuff, cause I had money to burn
to this day I still haven't played it and now I have no money

>>3957705
Only played the 1st. I liked the way you could use the stripper's gambling skill to get a bazillion experience. I didn't like the way the character arcs didn't meaningfully interact, the whole "octopath" bit was a flop. More RPGs should use the FF5 class system like this.

>>3969523
>stripper's gambling skill to get a bazillion experience
I'll admit I chuckled at this description since it's actually accurate.

>>3957806
>the second game confuses being "bigger" with being "better" and a lot of the rebalances and additions actually end up feeling worse.
This is the correct take. Second game suffers from bloat and imbalances the gameplay loop even more. Somehow the dialogue is even more overbearing, and the dungeons feel even shorter and more pointless. The battle system was ruined by giving every character too much utility. Some battles will be so easy you can just spam attack, but as soon as they get hard enough that you can't do that, each character has so many tricks up their sleeve that they could all end the battle in a single turn, which means that even when the combat gets harder, it's still boring. There's a difference between being forced to strategize, and being forced to pick how you win.

I've spent the past year playing a lot of early 90s JRPGs, and it's actually insane how thoroughly the Octopath games bungles up just about everything that actually made those old games good. It really is just a modern, bloated movie-game cosplaying as a retro JRPG.

>>3969523
>More RPGs should use the FF5 class system like this.
FF5's class system is about a hundred times better than whatever the fuck was in Octopath Traveler.

>>3969763
If you want the "everyone can do everything with enough time and effort", sure. That said, I like how Octopath's class system both ties into the games' characters and into their mythology, and helps with setting very clearly defined roles that works with the class in question.

>>3970879
>If you want the "everyone can do everything with enough time and effort", sure.
The satisfaction of FF5 is that you get to define the roles yourself, then switch over to Freelancer/Mime in the endgame to reap all the benefits. If you decide to sit around grinding for hours on end to make everyone do everything, that's certainly your privilege, but has nothing to do with why it's better than Octopath.

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>>3957705
Is Therion a no-brainer first character in OT1 or is there nothing worthwhile in red chests he can unlock?

>>3969761
live a live did what octopath traveler wanted to almost 25 years prior, and did it without shared bloat.

>>3970979
Pick whoever you like better. You can grab Therion early so it doesn't really matter, you might have to go back for like 1-2 chests. Olberic is the obvious and only choice.

>>3970979
honestly more for stealing. backtracking for some chests is a small hassle compared to clearing out towns with savescumming and GUARANTEED steals from low health enemies.

>>3970911
>The satisfaction of FF5 is that you get to define the roles yourself, then switch over to Freelancer/Mime in the endgame to reap all the benefits.
Yeah, that's the point. You just do whatever, then switch to doing anything you want to do in the end. It's fine in it's own way, but Octopath having a defined base role that you can supplement and/or build on with additional skills is an equally valid way to use a class system.

>>3957705
my opinion is that throne would be cuter if she was a twink i could fuck. throne also best character in the series btw

>>3957705
Played the first game, gameplay was ok, but the storytelling was awkward. You have multiple characters in the party, but the characters are treated as them being alone in the story. Didn't bother to play the other games because of that.

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>>3970982
>live a live did what octopath traveler wanted to almost 25 years prior
My senpai.

>>3971457
>You have multiple characters in the party, but the characters are treated as them being alone in the story
I think this is pretty much the consensus from the critics.
I'd like to add that I hate the fact they are advertising it like a grand multi-character adventure from the trailers but really dropped the ball on the execution.
But also the fact the fanboys constantly overhype it online like it had no apparent flaws.
>>3971470
As much as I dislike the bareboneness of LaL's combat
I'd agree.

Is there a document that lists all status effect sources (usable by the player) for OT2? I want to try some bullshit so I want to see what job comps can I use. I know the fandom wiki covers statuses but for OT1.

>>3969761
Holy fucking based

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He'a so cool..

I've been playing 0 and the storytelling's genuine dogshit. It's like they look for "alright now make it 5x as long by inserting pointless tragedies". Bargello's worthless and the other two initial storylines aren't very good. Master of All is stretched to fuck. Bestower present you with the guy you've got to kill and then you spend four hours getting yapped at and trekking everywhere before you finally get to actually kill them. Bestower of All is just trying to make me give a shit about Sazantos when I never have and never will.

Gameplay's been repetitive ever since I got the Forbidden Bow on my Merchant too but whatever.

>>3957884
>expecting shit enix not to cut corners
retard

>>3978191
Cope

>>3974540
Sazantos is just whiny millenial sephiroth but his themes are fucking boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTfWAAFICKc
they're like the first 20 minutes of this video lol

>>3970979
I used Tressa and Cyrus primarilly. Having Tressa quickly buff up Cyrus so can just 1 shot everything with his AOE spells

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DENUVO IS GONE shame the game still sucks

>>3990752
They accidentally shipped a debug build including a pdb.

can any kind soul with the switch version and a hackable switch dump the 1.0.7 update? I accidentally went on sysnand and it banned my switch so I cant update my legit copy of 0 :(

>>3974540
I'm just getting to the bestower section and am kinda feeling like dropping the game. I've had a similar experience with the story, except I did enjoy the master of fame story. However, the master of all arc was so fucking bad it made me consider dropping the game.

>>3990752
It was already playable with a demo bypass, but it's nice to have it be playable proper.
The way the demo bypass worked was absolutely disgusting.

>>3991316
Bestowers are 3x 3 chapters and the 8 chapters for the final Bestower arc.
And they feel even longer, especially Bestower of Power and Bestower of All.

>>3960056
Japanese appreciate dubs.

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