>>2331411
Good morning saars

>>2331418
Good morning! Why is a tribal dilapidated impoverished shithole civ starting with +25 resources again? Having a hard time wrapping my head around that

>>2331435
because colonialism stole from the natives, chud

>>2331435
They turned up late and so were busy gathering in the dark age?

>>2331435
Cannibalism.

Tupi's bonus should have been food on enemy unit kills
Cowards

>>2331460
Meh, boring. And they already get food discount on unit upgrades and recover resources from lost units (that one will surely get nerfed into the ground).

>>2331449
but it's a bonus to all resources, not just food. Did they trade bones and build stuff out of them?

>>2331467
You eat some European monks, scavenge the wood from their staves, loot their valuables, and pull some pebbles out of their sandals.

Which features of the new civs will be wound back after a month?
Everything being divisible by 5 helps.

there are 3 threads on the catalog rn, which is the real one?

>>2331411
Mapuche? More like Mapoopoo, heh. I'm going to play Portuguese/Spanish and stomp all the dlc buyer noobs on a new account when it comes out. Nothing personell, just someone's gotta do it

>>2331609
this one, the other either hit bump limit or is dedicated to resident schizos

>>2331691
Arent DLC civs always overpowered at the beginning, then they nerf them once every regular series goy bought them?

>>2331695
Yes, of course; however I'll simply dump my elo a bit so the skill difference makes up for the civ difference as my conquistadors slaughter the inflood of Mexicans and Chileans coming in to play their native civ. Again, it just has to be done

>>2331695
These civs don't seem that overpowered from their bonuses, Mapuche seems the most straightforward to play, they have a better version of Franks berry bonus, they have settlements that can train trash so you get a head start on production, they seem like they will be great until the game goes long and you are outteched.
Muisca is basically Mayans, Champis might be better than eagles but they have no halb, -50% gold on aging is not going to help a lot, they do have healing on their settlements which could facilitate cheese.
Tupi are trash, they have good towers but nothing else.

Anyone wanna play team or lobby games?

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You ARE standing with ACCM this redbull, right? AoE2 is a millenial game.

>>2331755
I'm standing with Yo because I genuinely fear he'd face the firing squad if he fails
Vinchester is a vatnigger and his death would benefit the world and humanity

>>2331766
Hating on other white people is so kosher my dude

>>2331774
>inbred mongolian century-long rape bastards are white

>>2331766
Hating russians is so reddit my dude

>>2331784
hating russians is the whitest thing in the world. There will never be peace in europe until the retarded rabid savage dog nation is put down once and for all

>>2331787
It's literally western europe who is constantly starting shit with the whole world, The US, China, Asia in general, Russia, Africa. Now they even started beef with fucking south america.
Hell, back when it was just Europe, Asia and a little bit of North Africa, they were still killing each other over petty shit.

>>2331789
>It's literally western europe who is constantly starting shit with the whole world
It's literally russia who is starting shit with all its neighbors for no reasons other than banan. The ultimate goy cattle nation going to die in hundreds of thousands for... banan. No other reason at all. Just banan. Everyone else is interested in economic, cultural and social growth, while russia and russians just want banan and they will kill you if you deny them banan. Then they will rape your corpse. Then they will get drunk (5th time in one day). Literally everyone in europe was under 1% of GDP dedicated to military spending until the banan chimpout of 2022. What country that "starts shit" does it with under 1% of GDP investment? The answer is: none. Because russians and (you) made it up. Because you just want banan and will make up literally anything to justify getting it.

When are slavs getting the Rus split

>>2331792
holy shit have some mercy anon

>>2331792
>Under 1% on military
>30% on welfare
Why don't you have welfare, we have that in Germany

>>2331792
Should've let him have Ukraine.

>>2331789
hahahahaha

>>2331411
TheGhostmaster living rent free in your head

>>2331609
This one and the previous one is made by the resident jeet shitposter, >>2326883 is the real one that this jeetposter hopes everybody ignores

>>2331692
>this one
This one was LITERALLY made a shitpostetr what you are on about

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im holding up fine, but i wish handcannoneers would be buffed.

>>2331860
Where is the shitpost? It's a normal AoE2 thread aside from the /pol/ intermission

>>2331900
they're still doing good in the current meta thougheverbeit

>>2331960
>Where is the shitpost?
On the OP, considering it is the shitposter using screenshoots that dont belong to him

>>2331411

Mapuches look like an open map early pressure civ, could be very annoying. How hard they fall in late games depends on the elite bolas rider. I like the concept, the most interesting of the 3.

Muiscas could be a very annoying clown civ. Probably a top tier archer civ, specialty in late game. Archers usually go well with siege more than with monks, so let's see how they're played. Great team bonus

Tupi the most average of the 3. Seems like the Maya but with a worse economy.

I hope that the Inca keeps the eagle as an option even if they have now the champi as a scout, will be fun, and they are an infantry civ after all, losing 2 units and gaining one doesn't seem right. But I think that it's difficult that the devs will do that.

>>2332100
Mapoopoo, Mucus, Poopi.
Yes, I'm 5 years old. Also, buff hand canoneers, fuck slingers

>>2332091
>screenshoots that dont belong to him
Are screenshots private property? This is some NFT derangement shit right here. Anything you post on 4chan is public property by default

>>2332136
True, doesnt stop from making you look like some sort of obsessed weirdo
It's still peak shitposter behaviour

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>>2332150
>doesnt stop from making you look like some sort of obsessed weirdo
Meds

>>2332190
I will compliment you, jeet shitposter, you are very good at editing your images

>>2332201
It's not edited and I'm not any kind of poster, I just like playing as Vikings on any map type and going Berserks even when they get hard countered. Unironically get a grip on your schizophrenia

Has anyone been able to get any 1v1 games on arena lately? I'll favourite arena and ban Arabia/lowland and people will just constantly dodge/insta resign until I get fed up and unban Arabia.

>>2332215
Cool story bro.
Here's your gold star!

>>2332270
damn that's a lot of frames

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they originally thougth of just making a full set of buildings for the Inca and just reusing the set for the rest of southamericans, but then they changed their minds

>>2332268
>>2332270
>>2332272
>>2332273
Was not aware THAT much tech goes into develoing these animations

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>>2332279

you can see the whole process of creating, modeling and coloring the units and buildings here

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/from-concept-to-final-polish-the-art-of-the-last-chieftains/

New architecture set is looking good. Now they need to pull their fingers out of their asses and put fix 3k and turn it into what it should've been

>>2332282
there's something kinda funny about the destruction animation for these hut on a hill type castles
yeah lemme just lob rocks at it until the whole hill collapses like it's hollow inside

>>2332274
What do you mean? All three new civs plus the Inca share the new set

>>2332288
I'll be honest, I don't like any of the destruction animations. They shouldn't look perfectly fine and then slowly crumble. They should look like they just got hit with a catapult or bombard and collapse rapidly.

>>2332336

i think i explained myself wrong. What i meant was they were going to make the set based entirely on the Inca architecture, and then just slap it to the other 3. But then they later regretted it, and added things from the Tupi, Mapuche and Muisca.

>>2332337

i mean, these animations are made just for eye-candy, they arent meant to be realistic. I mean just look at the animation destruction of the Pyramid, like its a broken kinder-egg lol

https://youtu.be/PaY-8MwYoWA?t=327

which is the least reddit caster right now?

>>2332356

Dave by a mile

Grubby has started grinding aoe2 1v1 and it's making me want to try it after years of only fucking around with AI and 4v4 team games. If I can beat extreme AI straight-up in like 2 out of 3 games would I be above 1k in 1v1 eventually or just giga-humiliated 100 elo unc topper?

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What is the most elo you guys have gotten from a 1v1 outside of placement matches? I got 26 today for beating a 1900

>>2332422
Stop flexing, stupid phosphoru rusher

>>2332360
True. He's not reddit-tier retarded, just discord-tier.

>>2332348
I would like if each major patch had a different unique skin for another building or unit.
Units redone for the architecture sets
Buildings like Churchs which don’t change through the ages slowly becoming unique.

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>hut on a hill
>but a wonder this time
hmm

>>2332866
Looks pretty however

>>2332866
kek, the worst wonder yet

>>2332866
We building natural wonders now. I wonder how it looks on a snow map?

>>2332871
i mean yeah
>>2332895
if the waterfall doesnt freeze we riot

>>2332866
Will probably look a bit weird on desert maps but I like it, the wooden castle too. Some flavor

>>2332866
Civ7 Buganda tier architecture

>>2332866
grim
I mean it looks beautiful, but it's grim this is the wonder

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>>2332866
In my little town in the southern latitudes of Chile there's fortifications built by the spanish that are still standing. One of them got a chemamüll (the wooden statues seen here) planted in the middle and got repurposed as a little plaza that overlooks the nearby river. When I saw the Mapuche wonder I thought about how cool it would've been for it to instead be a captured spanish fort with mapuche paraphernalia and a chemamüll planted front and center

After all, the spanish never managed to completely drive the Mapuche away from the Araucanía

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>>2332279
Always been the case since aoe I, they made whole 3d models just for the sprites. With the technology of that time units looked like characters from ReBoot of course, but still looked better than, say, wc2 sprites.

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>>2332960
Majestic_African_Palaces.jpg

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>>2332866
They couldn't even pull that. Indios can't live in conjunction with nature. Living in the congosur you learn they absolutely hate seeing green, which is why their neighbourhoods are always grey. Pic related are a bunch of houses the government gave for free to some favelados, left 2019 and right 2025

>>2332866
>chinese mythology civs with disgustingly op units
>literal mud hut jungle savage """civs""" with wonders that are just hits made out of sticks

The future of this game doesn't look good.

>>2333409
80 "civs" by 2035
this is good for the game, chud
the 0.01% of people who play 7 hours a day are THIRSTY for new content

>>2332866
>The Mongols are the only civilization in the game whose Wonder lacks a real-life monumental counterpart. Instead, the Mongol Wonder is loosely based on an artistic depiction of Genghis Khan's ascension to the throne in his tent by an Ilkhanate historian, Rashid al-Din Hamadani
Well, not anymore.

>>2333440

what about the Huns wonder? Is the equivalent of conquering a city, putting a flag on a building, and calling it "my wonder :)"

>>2333240
This is simple racism. Economic depravity is caused by western exploitation and unfair trading. Brazil has been plundered by the West since its discovery and even after de-colonization.

Brazilians are actually very ecologically conscious and in touch with nature. It is western corporations appropriating their land and devastating it which damages their natural ecosystem and further traps them in a cycle of poverty. Enabled by corruption and international pressure (Just look at what happened to Venezuela when the refused to kneel to America).

The United Fruit Company might be the most famous name but it is not the only corporation to practically invade South America and it is something which very much still happens today.

>>2333471
cala-te, gringo

>>2333471
At first I thought this post was clever sarcasm, but the more I read, the more I realized it was sincere.

>>2331699
Wtf fuck you. Im mexican

>>2333471
Would be funny if the anon you replied was a Brazilian that actually knew what the fuck happens in Brazil, and not this deranged gringo conspiracy you got

>>2333538
“banana republics didn’t exist but if they did the natives deserved it”
that’s what you sound like right now man

>>2333409
Maybe the goal is to kill this game at some point to make room for a new flagship RTS (AoE5?). Must be annoying for them that players still cling to the old games instead of rushing to buy new ones. They'll keep selling DLCs for as long as it's profitable while the spleeting and gameplay alterations gradually decimate the playerbase.

So are they trying to get the BR playerbase on board? Why else would they add Tupi.

>>2333537
Dumping my elo even lower so I can find your ass pendejo

>>2333555
>Why else would they add Tupi.
So gringos can feel good about how benevolent and inclusive they are.

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was the first Spartan mission supposed to be super difficult or was I just plagued by the stupidity of my men wanting to tank mangonel shots/charge the siege lines instead of attacking rams?
It probably didn't help that I went for the northern camp, first, which had, like, 50 archers

>>2333684
This.
In reality most of southamericans dont really care for the natives still existing.

>>2333746
>ready seven black bulls
S-seven?... Oh my...

>>2333684
>>2333764
stop replying to yourself, larper

>>2333555
Because they're a major ethnic group of the region, duh. That's what AOE2 is for, showing various places and people in a medieval historic context.

>playing monk siege on team arena
>Not going great, opponent is defending really well
>Suddenly the enemy pocket shows up with like 10 knights
>Convert all of them and the pocket resigns
Kek

>>2333851
I'm Argentinian however
Fuck the Mapuches btw

>>2333764

i support the mapuche and i hope they murder all the oligarchs behind the forestry industry
im Chilean btw

>>2334132

chupame la pija pelotudo

>>2334132
indian pakistani same thing

>>2334158
>indian pakistani
You forgot the brownest of them all: Americans

>>2334132

Milei simp fag. You will never touch a woman for being a fascist loser

>>2331780
Ukraine lost

>>2334202
Did it? Zelensky is dead? Country de-nazified? Russian flags in Lviv? What proof do you have?

>>2334175
>Milei simp fag
Lmao I'm not, actually

>>2334132
>Fuck the Mapuches btw
white seething!

>>2334132
perfectly calculated post to farm (You)s

>>2334478
>Argies are white now
Lol

>>2334504
They’re unironically Whiter than most major European or American cities at this point

>>2332360
Dave is reddit. When I said in his chat: "Canada is basically New India, too many Indians there" he got super pissed and called me a racist.

Ornlu is even more of a lefty though. The only one I suspect might be a right winger is TWest.

>>2333471
>The United Fruit Company
Jewish

>>2334556
>Ornlu is even more of a lefty though.
Ornlu at least is capable of nuance and accepting divergences.

>>2334564
>Ornlu at least is capable of nuance and accepting divergences.
Really? He said he was happy when Charlie Kirk got shot dead.

>>2334557
Like all american institutions.

>>2334566
I suppose it's not mutually exclusive with being a psycho.

>>2334566
Charlie Kirk was a proud supporter of people getting randomly shot in public sometimes. Why shouldn’t we be happy he died in accordance to his beliefs?

>>2334589
Kirk getting shot was random? That's weird, I thought a guy went up on the roof specifically and explicitly to kill him with full intent and premeditation.

>>2333440
they should have made the Silver Tree of Karakorum the Mongol Wonder

>>2334590
It must have felt pretty random from Charlie’s point of view.

>>2334597
A telltale sign of autism is the inability to differentiate between personal view and objective factual reality. Talk to a shrink and get diagnosed, anon.

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Here is the proceded games at peak time of both AoE4 and AoE2. For those who follow the narrative that AoE4 multiplayer community is almost similar in size due to "most aoe2 players in steam are just playing campaigns" lie. AoE2 doubles (and even a little more) the amount of online matches than aoe4
Sources: aoe4world.com - aoe2recs.com.

>>2334556
I once got muted from Dave's stream for saying CBA stood for Cock and Ball Autism.

>>2334608
he tends to be pretty ok with inmature sexual jokes, probably some tranny mod of him banned you

>>2334612
He then proceeded to make fun of me in public for that joke.

>>2334556
Its not like a stream about video games is the best place to talk about that shit, I agree T-West is the most normal caster

>visit age of empires 2 thread
>ecelebs
>left or right american politics
>miscelaneous south american politics
>jeetposter

I'd rather have the 20000th hand canonneer buffs post

>>2334666
Get new material already

>>2334666
Unfortunately those are all things that dictate the development of the game.

>>2334666
You forgot the worst two
E-sports and 500 elo/single player gamers discussing balance

>>2334521
Truth nuke.

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Amaterasu my waifu...
I got razy and gave the AI contror of the virragers...
they chopped down cherry trees around the shrine for wood and we rost our favor income...

>>2334602
so cool that it has to be a competition
why should other games even exist when aoe2 does?

down under 250 elo now on 1v1 rm. on my last game it was megarandom, i muddled through making a good eco etc, pushed archers in his case killing a few vils so i ended up spending all of my gold on upgrades and longbows. got absolutely smashed by his siege and cavaliers. ran out of minable gold . he clearly saved some of his gold and steamrolled me. trebbed all my castles whilst annihilating my halbs i was macroing with 14 barracks.

had an absolute blast to be fair, really enjoyed it.

>>2334598
A telltale sign of autism is the inability to differentiate between sarcasm and honest speech. Get shot randomly in the neck, anon.

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>when they see you are incapable of pushing deer and luring boar at the same time

How do I avoid dying to a 1tc castle age attack while doing a cuman boom on closed maps? I'll make a fuckton of walls and towers but it never works out for me.

>>2334666
Yeah but thats because you make those posts.

>>2334831
You forgot to put the viking in.

>>2334666
>I'd rather have the 20000th hand canonneer buffs post
That guy is worse than the reddit/aoe forums Persian architecture rework guy whose been posting about that for years

>>2331755
It's sebastian's time I feel it in my marrow.

>>2334857
Cumans get feudal age rams

>>2334957
'Cause this one is actually a legitimate complaint.

>>2331766
>yo
>face the firing squad if he fails
QRD?

>>2334957
not that guy but persians DO need to use the tatar/cuman architecture
+ get some new buildings for huns, cumans and khitans while we're at it.

>>2335138
Huns and Cumans need their own West Eurasian set, and Mongols, Khitans and Jurchens need a East Eurasian set.

>>2335222
I'd do a new civ-specific Church and architecture set villagers first.
Then start on differientiating main line buildings and unit types.

Each new civ already has two unique building and unit sprites (more since they are making mutli-UU civs). So doing no expansion and doing a bunch of sprites instead could help make what already exists pop.

>>2335098
the communist party of people's republic of china routinely disappears and/or gulags people who bring shame on their country abroad and internally. Or even for the tiniest of mistakes. Best case scenario his social credit score gets zeroed and he can no longer use public transportation, fuel his car, or buy groceries.

>>2335237
>civ-specific Church
but does every civ get a unique fortified church as well

>>2335089
he lost to hearttt pretty badly last time and it wasn't that long ago
it's gonna be hera with a 1% chance of it being lierrey

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IT'S HAPPENING!

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>>2335488
he looks way more scary now than he did back then tho. Vinchester and ACCM the same.
I still think Hera wins everything tho

>>2335495
Whats happening?

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>>2335563
IT

>>2335454
He's doing that bad? Haven't been paying too much attention for a few months while deburning to fully enjoy Plat and Londinium.

>>2335568
You're not explaining anything

what are the ultimate weapons in aoe

>>2335594
He doesn't know

>>2335714
Of course I dont know
Otherwise I wouldnt be asking

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UunbfJtkr2c
I actually liked it

>>2335687
At low elo tower rushing
At mid elo fast castle into a good UU ( sub 14mins)
At high elo IDK

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>>2334666
im glad someone likes my handcannoneer posts :).
>>2334957
how am i worse than a redditor?

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do redditors really?

>>2335732
That's just your average American, nothing new nor surprising

>>2335551
Viper quite literally only lost because he was sick the previous day and probably still was but chose to be professional.

>>2335841
He only won agaisnt seba in KoTD because he used phosporu strats. He was hard losing on the meta games.
>Viper quite literally only lost because he was sick the previous day and probably still was but chose to be professional.
Do you realize he probably is the only player in the qualifier who would have ever got such a treatment of let him rest one more day because he was sick? most players would've been told to play that day anyway or fuck off. Not only that, but the games of sitaux-seba were casted on replays just because seba requested it. The idea of the admins was to play that series LIVE on sunday, giving viper an entire day to analize while he showed nothing due to being in the higher standing of the qualifier

>>2334957
Way to out yourself as a redditor anon

>>2335841
>only lost because he was sick the previous day
Man he must have been sick since around 2019
Accept he's no longer THE viper.

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Let's settle this. Which stage of the militia line is the sexiest?

>>2336006
>large pointy object vs oblong circle
just depends on your orientation dunnit

>>2336006
2hs b4 skirt

>>2336006
maa has the most kino look

>>2336006
MAA, it would be champs for me if they didnt use the visor opened

>>2336006
MAAs and 2handers

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>>2336006
Man-at-Arms
honourable mention to the Legionary, late Roman aesthetics are very underrated

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these weeks before DLCs are the worst for this thread, nobody posts anything interesting

The Hera Era (era of Hera winning every major tournament #1) will last at least until 2040. The Prophet Isa told me so in a dream.

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>>2336404
Here, something for the jeet shitposter to angrily reply at, might keep the thread intresting
On a side note, it always bothered me how Spanish are "Conqs: the civ" and literally nothing else

>>2336426
i like playing spanish for their monks and donkeys

>>2336470
You might be the only one that does that, anon

>>2336426
when i play spanish, it'd to build their faster firing handcannoneers (and conqs/cavalry)

>>2336006
I think 2h swordsmen look like shit.

>>2336424
If you've seen some of his recent games you'd see he's slipping already, Lewis will take the throne within the year

>>2336602
true. They looked much better in the original

>>2336426
Spanish has the faster firing cannon galleons.

>>2336793
naval bonuses are irrelevant and a waste, nobody chooses a civ just because it has a certain water bonus

>>2336912
>nobody chooses a civ just because it has a certain water bonus
And yet, le memesos being bad in wotah mappus means even mountain shitters who never seen a lake let alone the sea have non!cannon galleon and siege engineers...
Curious.

>>2336793
>conqs but water
woah...

4 MORE DAYS
MORE
DAYS
...water rework

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I really like how these motherfuckers look. Probably my favourite looking infantry unit in the game.

>>2336793
Spanish cannon galleons are the strongest unit in the game.

>>2336912
Wrong, just because you don't play water maps because you are scared that the crystal clear water of aoe2 might touch you and take away your Hindu stench. Doesn't mean some of us out there enjoy water/hybrid maps to feel the aryan feeling of conquering the seas.

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>>2336006
Champs, but I think the Chronicles equivalents are neat too.

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You now remember that HD used to have trading card artwork.

>>2337139
those swords are scratched the fuck right up huh

>>2337139
You now remember AoM extended edition's promo artwork

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Behold, the only official depiction of Castle Blood.

>>2337176
Okay, those can be forgotten.

>>2337108
>take away your Hindu stench.
A Hindu GOD called Thunderbolt beat french Sitaux in a pro game (lost the series) yesterday. How does that make you feel

If the indian civs don't have Knights, why do Burmese, Malay and Khmer do?

>>2337160
This art was made during the very end of the extreme edgy videogame period.

>>2337469
:)

>>2337469
Don't jinx it. At this rate devs will add multiple unique and regional units in every civ and who knows what else.

What is the best counter strat to do against a Persian Douche?
Try to fight his vills with yours and not allow his TC to go up? Delete your own TC and rebuild it elsewhere near stone in case you need to do it again?
Spam outposts if you see the opponent is Persian?

>>2337561
Just move somewhere else and restart from 0:00 and proceed to have exactly the same game you would have had if the other dude hadn't douched (x2).

if i want to get into pvp, which game should i go for? which one has more people online, not playing campaigns? which one is more accessible?

>>2337469
because they don't get elephant archers

>>2337610
But Malay, Khmer and Vietnamese should get Elephant Archers.
Burmese should keep the horses tho.

>>2337139
I hate how smoothed over the modern art is from HD onwards.

so when is rematch getting out of beta?

>>2337609
AoE2 for every question

>>2337609
>1 is only played in Vietnam, and not even the remaster but the original
>3 was questionable before, now it doesn't even get any support from devs
>4 is recommended for noobs by some anons, not sure if trolling
>AoM is somehow doing worse than 3
I don't even like 2, but that is the one you should consider.

>>2337813
>AoM is somehow doing worse than 3
3 is f2p

>>2337816
Not exactly. You only get a few available civs in rotation without buying the full game. And unlike 2, you can't just pick a random civ and hope to do well by spamming archers/cav.

>>2337813
>Make an AoE I DE with a vietnamese civ just for them
>they keep playing the original
Kek. Resources well spent...

>>2337859
If only they kept the original sounds and graphics for RoR
AoE2 DE managed to port the animations perfectly 1:1 (except for halberdiers) from the original but AoE1 graphics are kinda ass with awful animations.

>>2337609
2 or 4 are both good options, although you will probably need to play at least 25 hours absolute minimum of single player to learn the game before playing online.

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My favorite unit, the genital

>>2337561
Think about it economically, if the guy wastes resources (probably 100s) by moving all his villagers to douche you, who's in a better position if you do the same but just place your TC a few tiles off? He's betting everything on you doing something retarded

>>2338544
>He's betting everything on you doing something retarded
The persian douche is a noob test. Don't fight it, let it come, move away, don't lose vills. Even with all the hassle you always end up ahead even if you get double douched.
It's just a glorified reset where the douchee ends up ahead.

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>26 views
bro fell off...

>>2338843
lol
Anyway, did M$ still not greenlight the muisca shit? Come on the DLC releases in less than a week.

So what can I actually do in AoE4 when I'm being ganged up on by AI?
Allies rarely help, or help too late and run away too soon. So I'm in a constant cycle of barely surviving, barely rebuilding, and losing any gains.
Haven't played in year, but I dont remember AI being like this. Used to play against ridiculous AI but now I can't even manage hardest.

I don't know why, but I still am not feeling it, haven't pre-ordered the Latinx America / South america DLC yet. Do you guys (the many Argentinians [Argentines] and Brazilians posting here) really feel happy that you're "represented" by the Tupi and the Mudanchee? I thought all of y'all would prefer to larp as the Portuguese or the Spanish Conquistadores.

>>2338952
Argie. No. Fuck the Mapooche and fuck the fact our greatest founding father didn't finish the job properly.

>>2338952
I'm getting it for the zergling archers and retarded settlement rush memes, that's about it, also I want to see how the waterfall wonder looks in a dry desert map like Arabia

>>2338843
Dammit, I already finished my three pizzas watching anime, if I had known earlier I would've also make some time for my pretend-online-friend, Spirit of the Law, and his newest video on Who, a Chinese race I never played.

>>2338843
I love how SoTL did alexander civ overviews before even touching 3K turds.

>>2338961
>race
erm bro it's a Han Chinese political faction that self-governed independent of the central bureaucracy for 58 years before being reabsorbed back into China, clearly civ material

>Muiscaca
>Tupee
>Mapooches

>>2338952
I just preordered because I want to use the healing settlements and garrisonable settlements to vill rush with

>>2339450
>vill rush
How's life @ negative elo?

>>2338952
I think Tupi is alright, at least it's not conceptually flawed like the Three Kingdoms shit. Compared to that, this DLC is great.

>>2338952
I'm excited honestly.

>>2338952
Another argie here.
No, fuck the Mapuches.
I also dislike the Spaniard, both irl and in game (fuck Conquistadors). Italians are cool however.

>>2339454
I am probably higher elo than 95% of people in this thread

What civ should I play if I'm balding?

>>2339649
Baldgarians
Baldgundians

>>2339649
Baldese
Baldons
Baldish

>>2338952
75% Brazilians would feel more represented by Portuguese, Italians or even Malians than Tupi
Still could be a fun civ if Champis are viable.

>>2339879
75% of brazilians can't feel represented by any civ or even meme "civs" like the tupi because they are all triracial mutts with no identity.
Only the white like 15-20% of brazilians can trace their roots further than their grandpa

How about...pro tournament...but the players have to ONLY play with the civs that represent their ethnicity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf4D4Rn9B5I
I think he's got a point

>>2339961
Yo would have an unfair advantage.

>>2339999
ACCM: Vietnamese
Hera: ???
Hearttt: Spanish??? Incas may seem obvious but dude doesnt look indigenous to me.
Liereyy: Teutons
MbL: Britons???
Vinchester: Slavs
Sebastian: Spanish???
Yo: Chinese

Based on surnames btw

>>2340007
I believe Hera is Turkish.

>>2340007
MbL is Norwegian, so him and Viper would have to play Vikings.

>>2340027
I'm getting conflicted info on the roots of the surname "Levernes". One AI is telling me it's french while the other says it's british.

>>2338973
SOTL is a huge Chronicles fan, he goes out of his way to promote it and even did a dev interview with capture age

>>2340035
Chronicles puts every other DLC to shame in sheer amount of effort.
A shame the civs aren't playable in ranked desu. 3K civs stealing their bonuses was just so ass.

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>https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/813780/view/536623744410455608?l=english
muisca presentation out

>>2339993
>AoE IV
>dogshit
I'm not in the mood to defend it (I'm still on the camp that it should have been either classical history or be set right after AoE III), but I saw a video the other day talking about how a unit like the villager has a dozen different voicelines, which even change with each age up. No wonder why they can only make spinoff civs now, that's a shitload of resources.

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>>2340040
lol

>>2340051
that was on my recommended too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-v_Yc6fSq0
I like attention to detail, but there's such a thing as taking things too far

you don't need over 1000 voice lines for a single unit in a single faction
quality trumps quantity every time and 2-3 minutes of dialogue per unit is more than enough, people still spam "prostagma" and quote lines from dawn of war 1 and command and conquer generals 20 years on and in those games each unit only has 1-3 minutes of dialogue

WHICH MENTALLY ILL PIECE OF SHIT DESIGNED THE THIRD PERSIA MISSION IN CHRONICLES?

>do not lose a single town
>I lose a town even though my tower is still standing, the tower I kept repairing gets captured
>my starting troops are completely worthless, nothing I can train until classical age (which I rushed anyway) can do a dent against the hoplites
>they just spawn where they want to attack, by the time I walk to the town, the "allied garrison" is dead and my tower is half dead

HARDEST (optional) OBJECTIVE IN HISTORY OF AOE 2

Does this loser even even? He doesn't even the basic lore of AoE2 >>2340025

Hera is a Canadian-PALESTINIAN.

>>2340061
He's from Lebanon you stupid fuck

>>2340062
>lying anti-Hera hater thinks he can fool us
https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Hera

>>2340060
yeah you have to cheese it with millisecond precision.
Run your army down and stop the first attack, while devoting your whole economy to stone/archers, while also sending villagers south/southeast to build outside their base. Get archery ranges and garrison towers with houses as walls but also building up a reserve force to go to the western edge of the map, just in case they attack there
I think it took me 2.5 hours of savescumming to get the perfect setpiece
Or you can apparently just cheese it from the back https://youtu.be/V0wHbSoJcd0

>>2340007
Hera would be Saracens.

>>2340007
Yo would have 4 civs to choose from.

>>2340064
I wish TheJeetmaster had a liquipedia page, we could put the question of his ethnicity to a conclusive end

>>2340040
coolest civ desu

Muisca just sounds like some cheap spanish noodle brand

Is it based or cringe that aoe2 is the only strategy game I like?

>>2340087
nah he just picks chinese, as lord Xi Jinping intended

>>2340054
>hut on a hill
why cant they just do some speculative architecture or something

>>2340054
20 treb shots btw

>>2340054
Muisca castle looks like a vacation resort

>>2337561
>Try to fight his vills with yours and not allow his TC to go up?
Maybe you can get some kills but the tc will go up.
>Delete your own TC and rebuild it elsewhere near stone in case you need to do it again?
Costs a lot, go up to feudal get a few archers and make sure you have a lumber camp, maybe stall him out a little with repairs

>>2340051
Even the spinoff civs are infinitely better than whatever AoE2 shits out. There's actual huge differences between them and not just one gay ass reskinned unit.

>>2340363
>reparing a tc on dork age
Where am I supposed to find the wood to outlast a persian TC, build a range and archers without the hope of even fletching with 10ish villagers?
Woodstock tends to not work in online, you know?

since we are talking about persian douche, what exactly were the devs thinking when they gave persians that bonus? what strategy did they think it would it incentivize? honestly it seems like a lazy stat

>>2340413
they were probably thinking it would primarily be used defensively

>>2340413
>1999
Probably lel we all gonna die from the y2k so who cares lmao
In any case, I actually enjoy it existing.

>>2340414
it doesnt really have any defensive use, unlike the byzantine bonus

persian douche fills a crucial role in the ecosystem of early aoe2: funny meme strat

>>2340427
Is Cooman Douche a thing?

>>2340426
>it doesnt really have any defensive use, unlike the byzantine bonus
Makes it harder for a dark age/feudal rush to knock over your TC.

>>2340430
you need like 25 MAA with the upgrades to take down a TC

>>2340426
Defense = Offense. The amount of 4 lakes/cross games where a 2x HP dock survived a whole age annd shat out a lot of fires and you win the pond I've seen is relevant.
As for TCs itself, yeah no idea.

>>2340434
You must remember that the original devs were not actually very good at the game. Imagine that a lot of the design decisions were made by people who would struggle with the modern moderate AI.

>>2337561
Do not garrison/repair, let your tc go down and try and sneak vills away. (dont delete like others here said, if your opponent has to garrison to kill your tc it idles their vills). Aim for archers + fletching even if it means delaying your next tc. It does not matter if your civ gets bad archers, your opponent can vill fight off other units. Once you get to a small mass of archers with fletching your opponent is fucked unless they can get to feudal themselves.

Vill rushing down the vills constructing the tc only works against noobs who can't quickwall and bring too few vills to construct the tc safely.

Don't spam outposts, its a waste of res and persian douche is not a common strat. Scout your enemy and if you see they are heavy on wood.

Ideally your 2nd tc should be near gold and wood to make archers.

Also do not make a tower as doing so will mean you will not have the stone for another tc and the douching player can just vill rush it down.

>>2340426
It does, it makes it harder to kill the town centers which protect the vills, also makes it less risky to boom.

>>2340462
This is good advice, thanks. I'll keep that in mind next time this happens to me.
At ~900 elo tc drops are quite common.

>>2340134
Sounds like Musica which makes me hope their civ theme is good.

>>2340853
>inb4 pre-columbian cumbia remix

>>2340429
Someone tried it on me once at ~900 Elo but it failed.

>>2340855
>There's a chance they make a remix of the AoEII main theme for the DLC based on the new civs.
I hope I'm wrong. That damn mapache horn is a fucking earsore.

>>2340429
Takes too long to build the 2nd TC in feudal, it's really not worth it. You're better off ram-rushing them instead.

>>2340427
In over 20 years playing this game I never saw a persian douche actually work.

>>2341289
Viper once lost to Daut because of it.

>>2341289
I've won hundreds of games doing it, it can work but most people do it very poorly.

>>2341311
Viper losing is hardly news

Look, I love AOE 2, and I love additional content, and The Last Chieftains seems awesome. All that said, it seems unfortunate that, expansion after expansion, the AOE2 developers continue to neglect Africa as a setting while scraping the bottom of the barrel for additional European and, now, American civilizations.
The Muisca and the Tupi are awesome, but they really weren't even somewhat equivalent technologically or organizationally to the Incas, Aztecs, and Mayans, let alone the colonial European powers at the time. But they are being incorporated into the game with a new architecture skin and bespoke campaigns that embrace their proud histories and South American identities.
Contrast that with the three African civilizations: the Berbers, the Malians, and the Ethiopians. With the sole exception of the Malian campaign, their unique African identities are actually deemphasized in their campaigns (the Berber campaign takes place exclusively in Europe as part of what is generally known as "the Arab Conquest") and Ethiopian campaign has, as its PROTAGONIST, a historical figure whose whole schtick is destroying Ethiopia! And the Portuguese were added in the African Kingdoms expansion rather than a fourth African civilization.
There are multiple advanced African civilizations that could be incorporated into AOE 2 and make abundant sense thematically, much more than a number of the new civilizations already added (like the Tupi and Muisca). In particular, the outstanding "household name" African factions: the Somalis, the Kongolese, and the Swahili. Even more astounding is the Somalis, the Kongolese, AND the Swahili all FOUGHT the Portuguese during the AOE2 timeframe. Including one of them would have been a no brainer. Similarly, medieval Ethiopia fought ALONGSIDE the Portuguese, but the AOE2 devs decided to have the campaign follow an Attila the Hun-type destroyer in the Axumite period rather than one of the famous Christian Ethiopian emperors

>>2341686
You copied this from somewhere I bet

>>2341738
Protip: Grab a random chunk of that shit and put it in google with quotation marks. Yes, it's leddit and as expected from leddit dey love dem kangz
https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/1r30u3r/africa_has_kind_of_been_shafted_by_aoe2_i_hope/

>>2341773
>multiple advanced African civilizations

Sao civ added to African Architecture set
Ethiopia civ added to new East Africa Architecture set
New civs Swahili and Somali (replace with Oromo if too controversial)
New camapign about the Oromo sweeping across Ethiopia and Andal. If not, a game about Ethiopia vs Yemens and others around the horn.

>>2341311
Do you remember when that happened? I'd love to watch that game
>>2341343
What is your secret?

>>2341828
Viper panicked and lost.

I don't remember what tourney it was but it was a big one and it was right after Hera joined GL and the other GL boys made fun of Viper for it in Nelson's podcast.

>>2341828
Should be the second game of this set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKCDQSzuno

>>2340038
>A shame the civs aren't playable in ranked desu.
They need a separate ranked ladder.

>>2341834
Thanks

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Eh, I'd give for
>West Sahel - Malians (Ghana/Mali/Songhai)
>Central Sahel (Kanem/Bornu/Hausa)
>West Jungle (Akan/Yoruba/Benin)
>Central Jungle (Kongo)
>East Nile (Nubia/Sudan)
>East Africa - Ethiopians (Axum/Ethiopia) They already have good Nubian/Sudanese archers, so it's kinda redundant
>East Coast - (Somali/Swahili)
>Southeast - [Bantu] (Zimbabwe/Kilwa)

>>2341780
For me, it's the "If they release x/y/z civs is only because they are selling out to that market. But if they release MY N'gongo Jigaboo favorite civs, then that's a genuine work!" nigger(s)

>>2341773
Joke's on you, kid. I knew that already when I made my post. I said somewhere because if you name the site, your post gets filtered because it hurts the emotions of the people who use that website.
>If you want to know who rules over you, just check who you can't criticize.
~ Renee Descartes

>>2341873
>Their unique unit = a black guy with a straw shield and sharpened wooden stick.
>It's also their only unit.
>Cannot get food from animals because they instantly die from tsun-tsun fly.

Might as well add an Albanian civilization.

>>2341899
Albanians can be included in Sclaveni with
>Serbian gusar UU
>Croatian naval UT for piracy and trade
>Albanian UT "Skanderbergian Tactics" for reduced gunpowder damage

>>2341834
>>2341832
>"Here is a game where the Douche works"
>Ends in post-imperial anyway

I honestly think African architecture looks really good in AoE2 and I want more civs that use it.
Completely different from real life but so is having Huns and Tupi in the game.

>>2341954
Imp looks too similar to castle and the set as a whole is too monochromatic.