is this playable now?
any news on the first BIG dlc?
im not up to date with the lore

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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/introducing-a-new-eu5-hoodie.1903919/
Make sure to get your Europa Universalis 5™ sweater from Paradox Tinto© before the next DLR drops! Show them some love, and maybe they will keep updating the game by changing modifiers by factors of 10-100 without play testing a single change.

Only Available Until: March 17, 4:30AM PDT

>>2349792
Releasing this while the game is in the state is in feels like Johan himself is trolling.

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even just sitting on speed 5 late game is painful. European borders haven't changed in 350 years. Colonial nations instantly revolt when they go under 50%, I just let everyone go, it's not like they do anything. Values don't matter, going 100% liberal vs absolutism I just make less money from trade, everyone is rich. 1m people still die in the bubonic plague. Money doesn't matter, nothing to spend it on, buildings don't matter. Nothing matters. The research in the last age sucks, it's just more gay "+5% trade efficiency!" "+10 pop conversion!" and more of the same stupid fucking buildings. Nothing interesting. Nothing good. I can't believe they managed to fuck up the late game even more than eu5. I don't think i can torture myself to actually play until 1837

The game runs so bad it freezes for 10 seconds each month tick. Bravo

for that matter African, Indian and Asian borders have also basically not changed either. Everyone just alliance blocks each other off after the first 100 years of consolidating. For all intensive purposes, EUV ends before the EUIV start date

Economy actually seems well balanced on the beta now. You don't get infinite money.

>>2349945
>England still sits around with random bordergore not forming the UK
>entirety of America and Africa settled with a billion colonists in the 1700s
>Russia STILL broken
>Mamaluks STILL aren't fixed. not even a forced "ottomans take over" event until a more reliable fix
>global trade just does not work period. markets do not import or export long distances
inexcusable. admittedly red turbans now work properly which is nice

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>>2349945
Ok late game is shit, but for early game Holland/Netherlands can i ask a couple questions? Did you open your own market in Amsterdam? Also, is it worth moving your capital there? I feel like my income should be a little higher then it is right now and trying to find ways to boost it. Im still new at the game overall so i dont know if im doing the right thing just trying to meet demands with buildings/RGO's that meet them.

>>2350001
Why would England form the "United Kingdom" if they conquered Scotland militarily? They didn't form a United Kingdom with Wales.

>>2350003
Not him, but you want to open the natural harbor suitability map and always put your capital at the highest point no matter what country you're playing.

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>>2350001
A couple more points.the chinese and the occasionally the Timurids should not be blobbing into fucking Siberia. your points about money being worthless and the endgame being essentially unfun are entirely valid. But for me the clearly ridiculous lack of railroading with the ottomans and the pathetic balance of the mamaluks is priority number one, they should not be surviving until 1837
>>2350008
fuck you

>>2350011
>fuck you
I'm being serious. The UK came about through extremely specific circumstances, it should only be formable through a union.

>>2350011
I think one of the main things we should have all known was a giant red flag was the beginning was
>Kyiv always overshadows any Russian state

>>2350011
Just disable non-European colonizing.

Game seems to be full of really obviously wrong things that aren't technically bugs, they just shouldn't be happening.
For example, from 1450 onwards Castile, Aragon, Portugal, and France will genocide their entire population colonizing Africa. Literally half of their population will die of Malaria this way.

>>2350018
you misunderstand the point. With the ability to colonize on or off there should be no reason for the AI to expand over the entire Siberian plateau with zero control value over any of its "colonies" while tiny independent border gore statelets are unannexed. Same issue with any European colonizing of America and more egregiously Africa.

>>2350015
Paracucks are oinkers who knew

>>2350026
Explain why Russia did then.

>>2350031
Because they're snowniggers, and nonwhites do not into exploring the unknown and especially do not into colonizing strange and hostile lands

>>2350034
See >>2350018

>>2350035
you are being disingenuous. if your historical grand strategy game was throwing up interesting scenarios of chinese colonies in siberia you know it would be a very different situation. Instead we get the same retarded borders every time (Russia has NEVER formed in any timelapse I've seen btw) and strong kiev. the game is a piece of shit

>>2350042
im not saying the game is good, far from it, but this is one problem that can actually be solved through the in game options

>>2350049
China still can colonize Eurasia with that on, observer mode FAGGOT

>>2350057
they literally can't, the ai can't do it if their capital isn't in europe
or are you referring to normal conquest wars?

so i made ireland a vassal and fed it the entire island as britain (i know, retard move, i just didn't want to tardwrangle a dozen tags)
what's the quickest way to annex them? enforce culture and wait for liberty desire to go positive again?

>>2350066
It happens. Turn the rule to whatever you think will stop it and go run an observer game.
The rule only applies to new world and Africa colonization.

>>2350068
I play every game with it on and they've never colonized anything with it. When I show up to Indonesia I colonize the clove islands to establish a foothold. If what you were saying were true the islands would have been colonized two centuries before.

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>>2350068
>>2350066
and since i know you wont
here's what "only european colonization" AND exploration rules set mean
i love observer trannytubers who havent even played the game telling me how shit works

>>2350071
>like clickwork
kek
oh good thing you're wrong, nigger faggot observer mode lying cocksucker
>>2350072
kys

>>2350072
>>2350073
>plays modded
>gets modded on
I have played both Portugal and Netherlands and it works as I've said.

>>2350074
>Gets btfo before he even sent his dogshit reply
>N-nuh uh!
Kys

>>2350076
Check the workshop page for conflicts if you have any more problems!

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>>2350078
you slurp nigger dick
1.15 w/ only glorp UI
kindly kill yourself and your parents, faggot

>>2350079
nvm its just a pirate version lmao look at that broken crown asset

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>>2350080
>tranny keeps doubling down
glad this happened so early in the bread so EVERYONE can see a lying nigger like you get caught outright

>>2350081
>1,135 hours on a 3 month old game
yeah so tell us again how much you hate the game

>>2350082
>Keeps moving goalposts
Thanks for admitting you're an observer mode brown faggot who just makes shit up

>>2350084
works on my machine
maybe you updated the version mid game and the rules got reset when they added in the new rules

>>2350085
Uh huh
Go ahead
Post "your" save with the rules set like I do
Go ahead
Show me that the rule stops asian nations from colonizing
I'm sure you can do it, right trannybro? Or did you forget which faggot streamer you were nodding off to to pretend to be playing the game as?

>>2350086
I delete my saves because they all become incompatible with new versions and why would I want to go back to them anyway?
No one else has reported your problem, bro.

>>2350090
Oh man how convenient that I have evidence that you're a bald faced lying cocksucker
It's literally posted in every update thread, ranjeet
Kys and go shit up another thread

Can you link a single one of these posts that isn't by >>2350093?

>>2350011
this guy
you lying brown subhuman faggot

i said OTHER than you

>>2350102
your hrt meds are making you go scitzophrenic, that isnt me kek i hopped in to tell you that you're wrong here >>2350057
KYS gg no re accept your loss

he wasnt saying the ai colonization game rule doesn't work, his argument was that with it on or off they shouldn't colonize shitty irrelevant land, as he elaborates here:
>>2350026
>With the ability to colonize on or off there should be no reason for the AI to expand over the entire Siberian plateau with zero control
again, you have not shown a single other example of someone else setting only western colonization and it not working
bug's on your end, might be due to glorp ui, might be due to updating mid game, might be due to something else, the point is no one else has this issue

>>2350105
And guess what, you stupid faggot nigger? In your dogshit reddit smarm reply you said
>Uhmmm akshully the rule makes it so that doesn't happen
And you have NO proof, because it
DOESNT
WORK
FOR
ASIA
THE
RULE
ONLY
STOPS
AMERICA
AND
AFRICA
NON-EURO
COLONIZING
And so now, you, in your magnificent retardation, have circled back to
>Uhmmmm it's not akshully a problem because I haven't seen it
When you have been shown evidence that this is in fact the case
Man, I'd be embarrassed to be related to you. You low IQ, brown, lying nigger faggot

You've shown evidence >>2350106 have a problem. You have not shown anyone else with this problem. If it was truly as ubiquitous as you say you could but you can't because it isn't.
I searched it on the forums and couldn't find a single other person reporting this.
It works as intended for me and seemingly everyone else.

>>2350107
It has been mentioned in every
Single
Update
Thread
Since
Release
On
Paradox
You LYING, brown, subhuman tranny
Kill yourself
Go ahead
Pull up an observer game ran to 1600 with the rules set. Show me China and indonesia not being colonized. Go ahead. You've had so much time. You own the game don't you? You could "prove me wrong" in 15 minutes, maximum. But you keep seething and bullshitting because you a) don't own the game b) have never even played the game c) reply on 3rd hand streamer gameplay to create hallucinations of how the game works

>>2350108
No it hasn't. Link a single example.

I've had a good time with it, using mods, could def become a favorite with the modding potential, also unironically I like automating buildings as their are too many provinces and I care for the health of my mouse.

>>2350003
>>2350003
Yes I have two markets, opened one in Amsterdam, and took the one in brugge. I don't know if having only one is more optimized, I just auto trade the entire game. I started as friesland and moved the capital to Amsterdam. RGOs should always be maxed out. Trade offices is the best building IMO because you can spam them on other countries land and make a profit in their trade nodes, they also give you maritime presence i think. If you can max plutacracy and switch to a republic

The early game in the lowlands is actually fun because you can use diplo to play france and England against each other and take the land for yourself

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>>2350392
71 thousand people are just waiting for 1.1 to drop and will return to the game

>>2349945
How would you fix the lategame?
I've been thinking new CBs for the last 2 ages. A peace treaty you can use on revolting subjects & colonies that instills loyalty for a century...
Considering aping stellaris and adding End Game Crises, too.


I'm making a Fantasy Total Overhaul with its own advance trees and age themes, so go wild

>>2350392
>euv has higher player count when it's daytime in white countries
>euiv has higher player count when it's daytime in the third world
Thinking a big think here

>>2349730
Flopped dead game, paradox is done for

>>2350683
Yes I'm sure you believe that

When will EU5 be good?

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France managed to split the HRE into 2 different coalition
Then they lost most of their levies to the black death, and now they're going to suffer, hopefully
This is taking forever though, I hope I get some of my rightful clay out of this

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>>2350853
That did almost nothing. And they used liberate area on stuff they gave to me and vassal theyre already releasing in the peace deal. At least I did get stuff I wanted and I can eat Burgundy now
Hopefully the 2nd coalition works properly

>>2350851
Anywhere from 1 year (if it follows the path of EU4 getting Art of War) to 3 years (if it follows CK2 getting Way of Life).

This game is too complicated bloated with meme features and I'm too tdah and low iq for that gonna stick with eu4

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-99-25th-of-february-2026.1904288/
Nothingburger diary focused on the upcoming river proximity fix (Europe only)
Expect at least one, maybe two more patches before 1.1 leaves beta stage.

>>2351172
rivers are a meme, like why is there only one in england

>>2351172
we have nerfed combined arms from being insanely overpowered at giving a total of 60% power down to a mere +18% in Age of Revolutions.
But why, isn't this game supposed to be a simulation, combined arms are insanely overpowered and there should be punishment for neglecting them

Learning this game is like getting into hard drugs like crack and meth. I don't get the negativity around it, i'm having a great time.

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My ck2 brain tricked me into this. Why am I sworn to aid my wife anyway?
If this goes badly I'm savescumming and getting a divorce

>Casualize tf out of EU4
>It attracts a large following of civ players who think EU is about blobbing and mana
>They all get filtered and jump ship after EU5 Retvrns to form as an autism simulator

EU4 and its consequences have been a disaster for the grand strategy race.

>>2351546
Can't I have autism simulation and also mana

>>2351546
EU5 is disguised as an autism simulator
but under the hood nothing works properly

>>2351359
people develop tolerances to drugs

>>2350920
It better be the latter.

>>2350920
and how much of the "good" will require you to pay for the DLC?

>>2351172
>We are still tweaking the starting economy, to ease the learning cliff somewhat
I'd like to see them give some sort of bonus to help small meme nations that start off totally fucked if the player themselves is the one playing that nation, maybe like a 10 year reduction to cost of court or something, I tried playing perm and you just can not overcome that cost of court to put yourself in the green

>>2351624
still, they are addicted

Is the Rosbauch out yet? I'm not playing beta patches.

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I want a Zoroastrian expansion

>>2351655
just develop

>>2351808
They'll release one right before EU6

>>2351818
Might have to try that, I just declared my current run a bust (made a few mistakes along the way but the death blow is after the manpower started showing up I didn't get my army up quick enough, also I think I was forgetting to use the balance army button

>>2350013
Don't try to shake up an autist's worldview with logic and reason, he'll just have another spergout.

>can't wait for HOI4 it will surely be amazing
>wtf it's unplayable
>can't wait for VIC3 it will surely be amazing
>wtf it's unplayable
>can't wait for EU5 it will surely be good
>wtf it's unplayable

>>2350837
how will they ever recover?

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less players than EU4
lol
lmao

Kyiv

what's the state of the game? I pirated 1.0 enjoyed it but decided to wait until performance and balancing got sorted.

>>2352189
Keep waiting lol

>>2350011
You should tell your grandfather to take a break from fucking your ass. Its obviously melted your brain.

How do you see what subtype of unit a unit is? It seems to say infantry, cavalry, and artillery, where/how do you tell the difference between light/regular infantry and cavalry?

>>2351920
The thing is firaxis is also releasing absolute garbage so

The future is dark for GSG

>>2352189
>wait until performance
never, ever
you can somehow imagine an unlikely situation where the balance somehow comes together, but the engine is just comically dogshit for what the game does and how much resources it demands

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-1-7-update-for-open-beta.1904801/
It's up
more economy tweaks, combined arms nerf and fixed proximity from rivers in europe and china

When are they releasing Divergences of Darkness?

>>2352758
nigga there are more mods being made for eu4 than for eu5 as of now
so, never

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>>2350107
>>2350108
The game rule isn't "non-europeans don't colonise", it's "non-europeans don't explore". Since China already starts with this much of China visible they're able to colonise it but they can't go out further east (which you can see in >>2350011)
The same goes for Indonesians colonising in Indonesia, etc. If they start with vision of it they're able to colonise it.

Anyways China almost certainly would've gone into Siberia had Russia not already taken it before them, Yuan/Ming/Qing had already been slowly creeping north for centuries and they had just as much interest in eliminating the steppe for good as the Russians did. It's entirely reasonable to have Chinese Siberia in a scenario where Russia fails to form, the problem is really just that Russia never fucking forms not that China is able to colonise north.

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>>2352808
>The game rule isn't "non-europeans don't colonise"
See pic related, there are 2 rules, one disallows exploration, the one you're talking about, the other disallows colonization.
Sadly this means Ottomans with their capital in Constantinople can colonize, because they refuse to make it tied to culture group.
But Indians, Africans, and Chinese can't.
>Anyways China almost certainly would've gone into Siberia had Russia not already taken it before them, Yuan/Ming/Qing had already been slowly creeping north for centuries and they had just as much interest in eliminating the steppe for good as the Russians did.
These are three separate points.
1. The Yuan and the Qing were of the steppe, they weren't "trying to expand into it", they came from there in the first place.
2. The Ming couldn't establish power over the Northern Yuan, though they did establish nominal control over the Manchurian tribes. It was similar to the Tusi states though, they weren't integrated parts of China proper.
3. There would be no reason for them to expand into the forested area, the reason they wanted the steppe was to pacify the hordes who were raiding them, no raiders were coming out of the forest. Russians by contrast were compelled to go into Siberia because of the lucrative fur trade. This precondition didn't exist for China.

Remember, China didn't even colonize Taiwan until the Dutch and Spanish landed there, and even then it was only due to the Qing invading the Ming that they moved there. If they wouldn't even take a relatively tiny island with a habitable climate because they didn't see the value in it why would they move into thousands of miles of artic tundra with nothing they wanted? Similar story with Japan and Hokkaido.

>>2352822
It's kinda dumb that it even needs a rule like this. The systems should naturally push European nations to colonize and disincentivise Asian ones from doing so.

>>2349945
Get a better PC?

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>>2352828
Currently the AI mass suicides by colonizing malaria-ridden Africa.
There's no way to make the AI understand and weigh up cost/benefit for colonizing, they either colonize everything or nothing.
Personally I'd just have all of Africa except the Cape as uncolonizable. Europeans should be able to build overseas buildings that can act as forts and ports, but direct control of any locations other than in South Africa should be impossible.

Im doing some modding and ended up looking at assassination cost, if anyone was wondering
The spy cost is based on the target character total stats, with x2 if ruler/general/admiral/close relative of ruler, x1.5 if heir/regent, and x0.5 if peasant estate, capped at 100
So basically you need 100 spies to murder anyone relevant unless they're a drooling retard or a newborn

>>2352822
>Sadly this means Ottomans with their capital in Constantinople can colonize, because they refuse to make it tied to culture group.
The Ottomans DID try exploration and colonization. They were contesting the Portuguese in the Indian ocean in the 1500s until the Portuguese utterly shitrolled them out of the region permanently.

>>2349730
>build print shop
>build road
>build print shop
>build road
>build print shop
>build road
>build print shop
>build road
>hope that some day the catholic league and prottys fight so that something will actually happen other than bohemians taking 1 minor nation a year every year.
>build print shop
>build road
Amazing gameplay. Very nice. I enjoyed the bit where I built the roads.

What's the point of inviting other nations to your patriarchate as an orthodox? I can't see any benefit at all.

which mods would you recommend me to use for long playthroughs?

>>2353183
wait for the dlc :D

Should I be spamming market villages everywhere?

>>2353186
Get National Destinies - Formables Content

It's awesome. You should also check out glorp ui, for more building info. MineEric's More Cabinet Actions for some new commands. Ad Astra for events, and continental hegemonies for being a local hegemony. Marry a local noble and auto education for just making life easier.

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How did my junion union partner declare a war (a retarded one that we'll lose, too) when I have their diplomacy reigned in? They shouldn't be able to declare wars at all, right?

>>2353257
Could it have been some fuckery where they took an option that causes a war between them and GH but counts them as the aggressor? Like in eu4 how if england refuses to cede maine they automatically go to war as the aggressor.

>>2353261
Ah, I guess it could have been an event or something like that. Then I guess I have no way of preventing that, huh.
It sucks because the war is to show superiority, and we have no chance of beating golden horde's professional cavalry army yet. Oh well.

>>2353257
Look at the CB
I bet it's an independence movement

>>2353183
The worst is that they somehow leave it all the time and create an autonomy. Retarded niggers leave a fully decked-out organization with lots of bonuses just to create a church where there will be no bonuses for the next 100 years.

I don't like the way this game's map is presented. You can zoom in way too much and it makes it hard to concentrate when multitasking on multiple fronts.

damn can't believe they got him
going to start a persia game

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How do I get the Hohenzollern dynasty with these niggas, or remove Wittelsbach ? Nobody elects the HRE emperor, so I'm stuck forever with some shitty Bavarian duke and the debuffs from the neglect.

>>2353435
play eu4

>>2353435
They made a video about it but it's still luck based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h2ZJdS6e5k

>>2353439
Nothing Ever happens. Ai cant elect an emperor.

>>2353257
>>2353267
It's because unions like 90% of other systems don't work right and the game just lies about shit. Union partners can and will drag you into wars automatically constantly

>>2353477
Everything about them is truly broken as shit.
I had a personal Union with Portugal as England, had passed most of the unification laws, but some tiny French shitlet state was also in the union some how.
Anyway, I suddenly get 2 alerts in the same day:
1. Castile has declared war on France
2. We have a new random king from a generic auto-generated dynasty.

I still don't know entirely what happened, I suspect the same king can't be at war with himself, and the way the game solves this is by just spawning you a new ruler when it happens, so because Castile declared on France and called me in I was now at war with the tiny OPM French vassal, so I lost my union with Portugal. Portugal and this tiny OPM kept the same king and union, I got a random Cockburn dynasty.

Is there any reason not to just have every character possible join a chivlary order? Seems like free skill increases.

>>2353520
It has a 10 year cooldown, so you can't just give it to everyone

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>>2352074
18 years later and my borders are both more and less hideous. Operation Crane Game was a success and I've forcefully moved Castile's capital, absolutely destroying their control. Since lower control = lower warscore cost to take, I'll eat them even faster in the next three or four wars. This move is even more effective in 1.1 because local governors are instantly deleted if they don't have a direct road connection from it to the new capital.

I'm thinking about leaving Aragon and Castile alive as tiny buffer states between myself and France, who have finally decided my century of slave raiding and forced religious conversion is antagonizing to them. All of Europe is getting in a real Crusading mood about it, which is obnoxious for me because the wargoal of every crusade has been to take the holy land, which I do not own. The owners aren't even part of the war, making the goal impossible. I don't even get a ticking defender bonus. Just years of killing armies as they transport ship onto my land until I can white peace. If I hold a direct land connection with France there's a risk of all 170+ thousand of them forming into a doomstack instead. I'd rather fight France in 60 years with my special age 4 Iberian culture units, or not at all!

>>2352849
>Personally I'd just have all of Africa except the Cape as uncolonizable
Colonisation is the fucking heart of europa universalis, there most certainly should not be such restricting elements on it

>>2353682
>Colonisation is the fucking heart of europa universalis, there most certainly should not be such restricting elements on it
Colonizing Africa was more 1800s, not 1400s, for obvious reasons.

>>2353520
Can't they die in the process?

Is it me or is every small tag unplayable because your economy just spirals into nothing after the first few years?

>>2353477
>Union partners can and will drag you into wars automatically constantly
That's the best part of PU, tho.
They take land.
They take the antagonism.
You annex them for free later anyway.

>>2353910
>You annex them for free later anyway.
As if. You need decades to annex anything, and the unions randomly break with just about every king's death, even at the highest integration level.

I wonder if the patch going public will actually rally the player base or if it will keep its slow death march

>>2350013
Yeah it's still called 'England' in common language in Germany.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1rfdyh9/the_current_rule_for_whether_rivers_are_added_to/
Oh look, now they fucked up np

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>>2353989
It's funny how many different ways they've accidently fucked over England for 1.1. The Hundred Years War means any nerf to England is an indirect buff to France so they certainly aren't trying to cause these outcomes. They're losing control of the simulation, every knob they twist has knock-on consequences they never seem to anticipate.
>Everyone was going naval for control so we nerfed maritime presence and port proximity, making rivers more important
>We intentionally didn't add a bunch of rivers but without them there's no reason for some historical capital locations, so we're adding more, but none for Britain
>Everyone says 1.0.X's early game eco was too fast and snowbally so we nerfed the wool into fine cloth industry everyone was using, but did nothing to help Britain who should have a strong wool industry
>We added governors to give countries more control but the majority of them require a road to your capital, so islands have less need for local govs and more need for naval govs

They fixed a bug that was making England always swap to some Welsh tag, which is good. But it doesn't even seem strong enough to become Great Britain anymore. Anyway fuck you, we'll fix it if you pre-order the EU5™ The Auld Alliance™ Chronicle Pack™ for only 14.99! Be ambitious!

>>2353888
Working as intended, vic2 was the same. POPS = POWER

>>2354016
The annoying thing about this is China, India, and Indonesia are always the great powers and hegemonies, but it won't be changed because you get a horde of redditors saying
>that's historical, europe didn't eclipse asia until the 19th century!
Whether that's true or not that shouldn't effect how gameplay in Europe works.
Oh, you can't form the empire of Britain, why? Because you're not a great power. Why aren't you a great power? Because Chen, Vijayanager, Majapahit, and half a dozen other states we don't know are higher rank than you.

The whole concept of "great powers" is a solely European phenomenon in the first place. In East Asia there was one China and everyone else revolved around it, India fluctuated between being a battleground of various random states and being ruled by a sultanate (Delhi, Mughals), and South East Asia was largely autonomous trading states with no overarching central authority.

Only in Europe did you have numerous powerful states that each recognized each other as equals and gave reverence to each other. The great power system is supposed to represent this balance of power that existed, not simply be a "has the most pops" award.

Furthermore there's no way to effect it without actually changing material conditions. That is to say, if you as Portugal go to India with 10k regulars, kill 500k Indian levies, utterly whoop their ass, and then humiliate them in the peace treaty then at the end of it they will still be the 3rd rank great power and you will still be the 24th rank. The only way you can change it is by spamming ships you don't even need to artificially boost your score. That sort of fleet-in-being doctrine wouldn't be relevant until half a millennia after the game starts.

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>>2354009
Maritime presence/naval proximity is so incredibly OP that I don't mind England and Japan being fucked over with rivers.
You start with more proximity in Newcastle than Oxford because of it. They truly don't need rivers on top of that.
If anything they should nerf shipyards, wharfs, and protected harbors giving harbor capacity because provided you have a sea connection by the age of reformation you can have any coastal province within a thousand miles of your capital to 50% proximity.

>>2353682
>>2353685
Maybe a retarded historylet but why was South America colonized but Africa wasn't?
>malaria
South America had terrible malaria, see the Darien scheme. But in South America they just plowed on ahead, but they didn't even bother with Africa.

>>2354016
I don't mind this, but if I'm playing as austria and I put my trade on auto, inflation to max, and expense sliders to minimum, then I expect at least a profit every month at game start. How am I supposed to make money if I start the game with an irreversible deficit and no oppurtunity to invest?

>>2354041
Both of them had diseases that kill you, jungles that suck to work in, and various levels of hostile native societies. So with all that in mind, would you rather go to Africa where long, historical trade routes from Europe and the Middle East could have sold them guns, or South America where your germs magically kill most of the people opposing you. Sure you need to cross the entire ocean to get there, but at least your boat was made by your countrymen, who are capable and don't want to kill you.

Also think about the propaganda difference of going down to Africa vs sailing to the New World to settle an unknown frontier. The past is a different country, but I feel united to it in our mutual understanding that Africa is a miserable shithole.

>>2354032
That's true. Great powers in general don't make much sense when you don't even have the whole map uncovered for most of the game. I feel like it should be more regional. It truly shouldn't matter if China is extremely powerful or not if you are completely outside of their influence - no diplomatic nor trade range to reach that far.
The whole system seems kind of arbitrary. I've had situations where the most powerful countries in the world were not counted amongst the great powers, just because they weren't Empires (a purely arbitrary term and concept, really) or for some equally bogus reasons.

CAN THEY FIX THE PERFORMANCE HOLY SHIT. I can run any AAA game at medium settings at least but apparently this map based GSG runs like shit

>>2354073
It's absolutely an arbitrary system, and that will screw up any changes they try to make. The problem with regional powers is that you eventually end up with an arbitrary line where on one side you compare yourself to France and the other where you compare yourself to China, leading to all sorts of stupidity for any country on or even near the line. It's a videogame problem that history didn't have to bother answering, because the entire Great Power / Hegemony system is entirely video game design. I fully expect there to be a patch where you get punished for discovering China and youtubers make videos on how to stop your map from passively filling in like a pro.

Any attempt to change these systems needs to answer the questions "What is this system designed to do?" and "How does this change improve that?" and I'm not sure Paradox has put any more thought into that than Biggest countries get special buttons to press but need to pay more cost of court, because 99% of consequences in this game is forcing you to spend some ducats (the easiest resource in the game to gain and snowball, because you also spend ducats to make ducats).

>>2354131
works on my machine :)

Does anyone know if the historical institution spawn stops Asia having the same tech as Europe?
Played with dynamic on, under the assumption that because only Euro provinces qualify for institutions they'd have an advantage.
What actually happened is every shithole from Timbuktu to Tokyo got "eligible to spawn institution", so they all just grew there anyway, with the end result being global parity à la EU4.

This fucking sucks, I thought maybe the scientific revolution could spawn in Amsterdam instead of London, not fucking Zimbabwe.

>>2354165
>Does anyone know if the historical institution spawn stops Asia having the same tech as Europe?
No.
The problem is that institution spread is WAY too fast.

>>2354157
>I fully expect there to be a patch where you get punished for discovering China and youtubers make videos on how to stop your map from passively filling in like a pro.
I think it would make more sense if it worked the other way around. China is a great power for you when THEY are close / powerful enough for their influence to reach you.
But yeah, as you mention, the whole system needs to make sense from the gameplay perspective in the first place.

>>2354165
Dropping tech groups in favor of institutions was a fundamental mistake.

>>2354230
we need to retvrn to EU3, yeah

>>2354242
EU4 was better than 3 for the first several years after release

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>>2354041
The westward drive was a combination of many things that Africa didn't have
>biggest one was the trade winds and the shorter distance; it's easier to get from the Netherlands to Suriname to Nieuw Amsterdam then return home, than it is to get down to Cape Town and back (especially well-supplied)
>several regions of temperate climate (usually after escaping the lowlands or by draining the swamps) that somtimes had...
>large, organized populations that could be put to work for the benefits of the empire
>while there were no indegenous beasts of burden, there wasn't the tsetse fly
>rumors of gold, trade routes to china, and profitable (slave-driven) extraction plantations spurred fortune seekers/explorers
>faith missions led conversions of native peoples as well as spiritual outcasts
>american diseases wiped out a large portion of contact natives, meaning points of contact (ie, coastlines and riverine highways) were free real estate for colonies to grow and become sustainable, with less competition/raids as well
African missions were often generally just a fort, a trading post, boat matinenance docks, and a church, because few wanted to make a permanent settlement out of them, nor were they given the attentions to really expand. The Americas offered many opportunities, via charters and rights, that made them attractive to European lower classes. Not going to say the American colonies were a cakewalk, but in comparison to the heart of darkness, it's much more pleasant

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>>2354272
Meant this map of prevailing winds

>>2354273
>a shitwind is brewing, Randy

I've been playing imperator rome out of curiosity and because I have slowly grown to hate a lot of the design decisions in eu5. It's actually fun, btw. But, the real reason I did it is to see how it compares to eu5, because clearly Johan wanted to ape that game in eu's timeframe. I can say that with 100% certainty imperator is a better EU5 game if you literally just changed the countries and pops to 14th century.

It has
>Slight railroading
>A pop system
>Trade goods including surplus goods effects
>Province/region level management
>Automation for everything toggle-able
>Levies vs regulars military system (heavily influenced by roman legion systems, but available to anyone with enough manpower)
>Pop class systems
>You are able to pick and choose which cultures you WANT to enslave/allow as citizens/etc, giving you the ability to enslave just Jews or blacks for fun
>Working combat and naval battles
>Character system actually matters because having a disloyal governor or legion leader can totally fuck you in the ass
>Dynamic struggles between your country's powerful families
>Characters can buy and run independent holdings inside of individual provinces
>Non-nation pops/armies as barbarian raiders who can and will go buck wild on you if you don't stamp them out (what the fuck happened to natives killing your colonists like in eu3?)
>Colonization is actually kinda fun and has some reward vs being the nothingburger it is in eu5
>The UI is a dense autistic clusterfuck and map modes are like eu5-tier granular
>Pop migration actually matters and isn't arbitrarily limited to "inside the same market"
>Events aren't just fuck you vs fuck you options
>A shit ton of flavor for each different country/culture group
I think if Johan just tries to fix eu5 by making it more like imperator, it will be fun. I'm actually kinda mad playing imperator and enjoying it so much, because if it had the market autism and economic depth of eu5, it would be the best gsg I've ever played since v2

There needs to be some sort of pop up warning to remind you that you are balancing the budget before you go and pay off your last loan

>>2354032
>historical fact makes me angry
With that said, Europe is extremely underpowered relative to what they historically did and blobs last forever so Europe never gets their chance to break into south asia.

>>2354264
EU4 was and still is shit

I find myself curious about the code on this achievement I just got, because the popup actually listed a different beylik on account of most of my nation is consumed by pretender rebels, I guess it makes it's own differently coded check instead of just checking the result of the event

so what happens when I lose this civil war?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-1-8-update-for-open-beta.1905403/
nothingburger update for fixes to rivers

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>>2354394
Forgot pic

anyway I might survive this civil war after all, all the levys I couldn't seem to raise before suddenly became accessible, so if I can gather them all in one spot I may be able to break the superior force since they're on Constantinople trying to beat down those heavy doors

>>2354398
Welp I somehow managed to pull through, danced around the city a bit and broke them there a couple times for enough breathing room to start building back up

>>2354422
Man do I wish I had noticed my diplo spending was maxed out that entire time though, my economic position at the end of the war isn't TOO bad but it would certainly be a lot better if my money hadn't been going into that pit

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>>2354360
>historical fact
Why does the myth that non-Europeans had military parity with the Europeans before some arbitrary Victorian era date persist?

Europeans BTFOing Africans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_conquest_of_the_East_African_coast
Europeans BTFOing Indians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_conquest_of_Goa
Europeans BTFOing South East Asians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Malacca_(1511)
Europeans BTFOing East Asians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fukuda_Bay

Yes, these places were all as rich/richer than Europe, because they had more people and better resources, that can be simulated through them having more pops and better RGO. They did NOT have technological parity with Europe. Not even close. Quite frankly if the game simulated history it would be incredibly boring to play as Europeans, you'd just blockade Asia with a few caravels and get whatever you wanted.

>>2354626
This is all Portuguese though. Going by the evidence the Portuguese should get military buffs on par with Timur, but the rest of Europe doesn't get to piggyback on their achievements. PortuGOD military power only filtered down to the rest of Europe centuries later.

>>2349945
Observer mode was a mistake
>European borders haven't changed in 350 years
That's for you, the player, to change.
>>2352830
Nope

>>2354626
This could (mostly) be solved by giving Europeans (and maybe chinks) sole access to heavy ships and good cannons before the 18th century or so. Europe was on par with China Proper as the richest part of the world per capita by 1400, which isn't something that the game reflects very well at all

>nation outside of Europe
>play completely optimally, outpace Europe in literally every metric
>UHMMMM AKSHULLY U SHUD INSTANTLY DIE IF DA EURIPEENS ATAK U
literal brainlet take on god

>>2354694
1. Yes. Unironically.
2. Euros never attack any part of India or South East Asia anyway, so even if they were stronger it wouldn't matter.
3. Having Euros be an actual challenge instead of just pwning them with your European tier troops would be fun.

>>2354694
I'm fine with that. It makes the game more challenging and makes each region more unique, rather than letting everyone use the same optimal strat.

Like in EU4 when all Asians would rush colonize one province next to a Spanish mexican colony to westernize ASAP.

>>2354694
Unironically yes, there is a huge opportunity to bring back westernization
t. plays outside of yurop

>>2354694
I'm trans btw

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>>2354283
Johan didn't make the version of Imperator you are playing now. They fired him and had somebody else tard-wrangle and overhaul the whole game to the very decent version we have now.
Imperator 1.0 was a huge, stinking piece of shit.

I really want to know what gives some of you people hope. Because looking at the beta-debacle so far paradox tinto seems completley unable at actually measuring second order effects, so they will just keep breaking the game and endlessly patch out the small new bugs they make

>>2354708
that's true but I think it's undeniable that EU5 is based more on 2.05 imperator rome than it is on the one that Johan made

Wiz should take over EU5

>>2354723
>I really want to know what gives some of you people hope.
Just like Imperator Johan will eventually be tard wrangled and the game can be saved from his dogshit directing. But unlike with Imperator Paradox won't just drop support for the game after a year because it's one of their main flagship series.