>.ru
I ain't clickin that shit nigga

>>2353032
>vkplay
where's the steam page?

>>2353076
Perfidius Steam of not approve glorious Russian plays, pls be patient

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Played the demo, and since I played terminator i will compare it with that

The good
>infantry uses trees, cars, everything as cover now, so their survivability is higher
>morale, suppression and stamina finally were added
>supposedly, infantry can carry different caliber same type weapons, so 5.45 and 7.62 at same time is supposedly possible.
>missions have an i sign spread which you can click to read about the events in slightly more detail regarding the local region
>vehicles have a chance to explode now on fire if they have ammunition/supplies (even if used up)
>mortar fire becomes more accurate if unit that has vision over area is a spotter (don’t know how to check that)
>same composer Edlise
The bad
>no encyclopedia to read about units or their stats
>no tutorial which teaches you mechanics, especially bad for a complete newbie to the warfare series or to explain in detail the new mechanics
The ugly
>same warfare engine, so shitty path finding, non optimal use of windows by infantry in buildings, no tube grenade launchers for rifles
>infantry does not use building exterior as cover, so they won’t peak out the corner
>missions are full of bullshit moments, but this is the series standard now. The command unit rushing to enemy position and dying because its full of Ukrs thus giving you a game over is a classic Cats who play mission design philosophy.

Its pretty raw at the moment, let the Rusbros playtest it before Steamchads will get their taste of the patched version.

>>2353032
Looks good but no steam, no buy

>>2353170
>missions are full of bullshit moments, but this is the series standard now. The command unit rushing to enemy position and dying because its full of Ukrs thus giving you a game over is a classic Cats who play mission design philosophy.
Good thing honestly, I was worried out of touch bureaucrats were gonna mandate that the game be made easy.

>>2353108
>ugh they totally won at hostomel
Took full control of the airfield and not just outskirts only after the ground forces arrived but by that point it was made useless for any sort of air corridor,

>ugh the advance in Kiev and Irpin got fucked up sure
Those endless tank columns just standing there, menacingly, no, just standing, and doing nothing, god

Something tells me that you can't make much content with just the Hostomel, are they going to make up alt-history, well more than they already prolly did with using only RU accounts to not get gulagd. Or will they show how the elite VDV units which partook in Hostomel's gesture of goodwill, were later used in quite pointless human-wave tactics during the countless assaults of the ruin that used to be Bakhmut

>>2353179
You will be happy to know all of their games are designed and balanced on realistic difficulty

https://vkvideo.ru/video-56911146_456247385
stream with dev around the new game with gameplay

>>2353189
Watched about half, here are some key points
>no tutorials/ encyclopedia/achievements because deadlines + they were expecting mostly series vets on first days to buy the game. When/if steam version is released, they will be added, along with achievements and ironman mode.
>Bucha map was made, but after a month they couldn't get it to make fun
>got a lot of criticism for 6th mission which according to soldier vets is exactly how things went down, but was simply not fun for players.
>steam version build was submitted, they are waiting for moderation to green light it
>2000 copies sold in first day, but they are happy with the result considering very limited release and taking into account their experience with Syrian warfare. Team was thinking they'd get 1000 copies in first week since vkplay is unpopular and gets 5-15% from Ru region compared to steam Ru region according to other companies' experience

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>Russian gamedevs have to make shitty propaganda games to not get drafted into the trenches of Donetsk Oblast
lol, lmao even

>>2353224
They have been doing it... for free. Before this game there was a Syrian Warfare from the same devs made in 2016-2017 (!!!), with you basically playing as Wagner ain Syria. The real irony is that the first entry in the series was a game titled quite literally "Warfare" (2008) and it was about the US intervening in a civil war in Saudi Arabia. The devs went full circle from Ameriboos to Russian nationalists.

>>2353253
The Syrian Warfare game is on Steam, btw. I did not like it that much, it's way more hardcore than the original Warfare game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/485980/Syrian_Warfare/

>>2353253
>The devs went full circle from Ameriboos to Russian nationalists.
Happened to many Russians over the years, i wonder why

>>2353032
like as if we're supposed to know what that Syrian warfare game is
fuck off hivan with your jank

>>2353179
>I was worried out of touch bureaucrats were gonna mandate that the game be made easy
they kinda did. The game was supposed to have morale system iirc, but I might be wrong

>>2353438
>escort mission to protect the commander's cargo (looted toilets)
Would've been kino

put that game on mega, i'm ain't clicking that shit nibba

>>2354011
meds, therapy, touch grass, get a gf and so on

It's crazy how consequential this engagement ended up being. This one battle arguably saved Ukraine.

Airport gets taken, transports which were en route I believe would have immediately landed and unloaded, followed by heavy armor, followed by a relatively unchecked march to the capital.

I believe they had a unit of natl guard somewhere between the airport and the city but it would not have been enough to turn back the increasingly numerous troop and machinery being unloaded at Hostomel.

The details are fuzzy but there are some great breakdowns on YouTube on how it unfolded and how critical the outcome of this initial engagement became.

>>2354130
Basically the Russian plan was to size the airport with a heliborne assault, deploy and supply an armoured column via airbridge and use it to drive into and occupy Kyiv, bypassing the defenses along the northern front. Basically a repeat of the Nazi invasion of Crete.

Whether there was ever any hope of success is an open question. The troops available in the region possessed anti tank weapons and still active air defenses would have made the airbridge risky even with somewhere to land. Rather than a turning point it was just symbolic of the hubris of Russia's planners. They went it expecting basically no resistance and their plans didn't survive contact with a capable and resisting enemy.

>>2354459
>WTF WHY WON'T YOU SWALLOW MY STATE PROPAGANDA REEEEEE"
Tell me why I shouldn't play the game beyond:
>reeeee itsa russian game
Tell me what's wrong with it. Gameplay, map design, mission design etc.

>>2354478
I mean he told you why bucha wouldn't be fun.

>>2354130
>>2354430
ukrainians used hostomel airport as a trap, they only had light infantry there without much experience, pretty much local militia
russians dropped their most elite paratrooper unit without any support and proceeded to get shredded by artillery the moment they took positions
helicopters alone couldn't secure the landing zone
russians never expected ukrainians to sacrifice the airport and put a bunch of craters in it. It was worth it

Damn janny purged this thread hard

based zigger janny

>>2358956
He seems to have purged in equal measure

Steam release has been validated
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3902520/Ukrainian_Warfare_Gostomel_Heroes/
LETS GO

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>>2358998
>2 weeks
Shame they didn't include the demo.

>>2359135
Demo will be there on release according to devs

>>2353032
any links to a website i'll actually go on?

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Release the fucking demo already

>Making a propaganda game of an ongoing conflict
>About a battle that you lost
What the fuck? Am I missing something? Is this just extreme levels of cope?

>>2368236
the VDV was fed into Ukrainian machine guns as a goodwill gesture

I can not download in Moksva, no internet ))))

>>2368236
>win battle
>withdraw due to overextension
>enemy proclaims victory in the ruins of their erstwhile premier airport

Tiresome dealing with you people.

>>2368284
>>withdraw due to overextension
sounds like a loss to me

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>>2368284
>Win war
>Strategically withdraw to a bunker
>Kill yourself because you won so hard
>Enemy somehow says they won

>>2354430

I suspect that when the whole thing is over, the whole thing will come off as a much closer affair than we have let to believe.

>>2368236
The devs are self aware as one of the promo screenshots has a russian bmp column charging headlong into a ukrainian position entirely unsupported.

>>2368295
ESL
>>2368291
It's very common in warfare to win a battle and then give up the terrain for logistics reasons. I hate you zoomers who can only think of warfare like it's sportsball.

>>2368351
yeah they just dropped them on the airport for shits and giggles, achieved nothing through it but casualties and then they retreated for no reason
normal warfare stuff!

>>2368351
Except we're not talking about some useless piece of land, this is an airport, a strategic lynchpin. If you fail to secure it you have lost the battle.

>>2368354

It's typical of paratrooper operations. They are high risk high reward affairs. Historically, paratroopers either achieve strategic victories or get slaughtered.

>Syrian warfare will never be getting engine upgrades of gostomel heroes
>neither will terminator
>in fact, terminator is a fork of warfare engine and any additions from gostomel will have to be made from the ground up
>squads will never pick up 2 weapons
>cover from vehicles never ever
>cover from building exterior never ever
>VO call signs never ever, despite devs bragging about how all units have slightly different voices now for whatever the fuck reason, but an actually functional call sign system to differentiate between different weapons but same squad type is no go

I feel like I should quickly finish terminator before Gostomel releases because I know I won't go back to it once I am used to all of the new engine shit like infantry cover, morale, suppression and exhaustion.

>>2368236
>Is this just extreme levels of cope?
It is. Today a report was released stating that with the current tempo of operations, it will take 83 years of non-stop offensive warfare to take over Ukraine. Quite a stretch from the 3-day special military operation

>>2368418

This is not how wars work, anon. Realistically without western support, Ukraine would have felt by the first year.

Demo is out

>>2368284
How can Russia proclaim victory if they didn't achieve their goal? Or do you only care about tactical victory rather than strategic

>>2368478
Do you actually think Ukraine is winning?

>>2368423
Realistically Ukraine does have western support though and will not fall in one year or two or apparently even 83.
Realistically if Russia wasn't a county of rabid subhuman vatniggers there would be no war at all. There still isn't any point to it. They would never be allowed to join NATO or the EU, but now after they were invaded and genocided for no reason, they're on fast track to join both. Incredibly funny and ironic

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>>2368493
year 4 of two week operation

>>2368493
Answer the question: How can Russia proclaim victory if they didn't achieve their goal?

It's amazing how funny this war has been. Russians and Russian-worshipping retards need to constantly find new cope for why Russia can't beat their small-ass neighbor for 4 years now.

>>2368493
No, neither side is winning, and that's the absolute best thing that could have happened to every single other country in the region. Kacaps and hahols slaughtering each other is peak.

>>2368514
>neither side is winning
usually people call this the defender winning

>>2368509
Ukraine has our thoughts and prayers while they do the actual dying. The moment westerners have to put their lives down the anti war protests begin

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Has anyone actually tried the demo? How is it? I won't be able to try it until evening.

>>2368531
If only Prigozhyn had balls... Putin ran from Moscow with his tail between his legs. The tsar is naked, the moment russia actually tries war against NATO, they will unknowingly initiate their own balkanization process. Can't wait for it

>>2368541
I hear that it might be happening in two more weeks

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>>2368531
>anti war protests
Are you implying that regular citizens being aware enough to refuse to die or kill in pointless war so some top jew gets his 5th yacht and 2nd castle is somehow wrong?

>>2368545
Given russia's current track record i'd say it's closer to 83 years

>>2368549
That will help push them out of the territory they've already captured

>>2368509

Realistically, a Ukraine in NATO is a mortal threat to any Russian state. War was inevitable so long Ukraine was in course to join NATO. It is a matter basic geopolitics. The European Northern Plain means that no Russian state can feel safe without the countries bordering Poland are not neutral or aligned to Moscow. NATO was designed to contain Moscow, and the countries in NATO have a long history of foreign interventions. There's a reason every single grand geopolitical chess master insisted that expanding NATO while keeping Russia out meant permanent hostile Russia. It has nothing to do with culture, ideology, personality, but an iron law of geopolitics.

>>2368601
Who cares what russia thinks? They are not strong enough to impose their will. Their only realistic option is to adjust their posture and align with the west. Since they obviously don't want to do that war and decline are their fate.

Of course their desire to invade ukraine makes sense, as does our desire to defend it. Might makes right in the end and we have orders of magnitude more

>>2368601
>War was inevitable so long Ukraine was in course to join NATO.
Before the invasion, Ukraine would never ever be allowed in NATO. Precisely not to provoke Russia. But Russia didn't need that to chimp out, they just made it up and attacked anyway.
>NATO was designed to contain Moscow
You can't contain the biggest country in the world by neighboring with it only from the western side. NATO was created to keep Russia from chimping out over the rest of Europe again and to keep Germany under control so they don't chimp out within Europe again
>There's a reason every single grand geopolitical chess master insisted that expanding NATO while keeping Russia out meant permanent hostile Russia.
There is no such thing as a non-hostile Russia in any universe. The entire existence of Russia rests upon endless hostility towards everyone around it. Authoritarian and now totalitarian states like Russia have to live in a constant mentality of "besieged fortress" to keep its subhuman vatnigger population obedient and oblivious to oligarch shenanigans behind the scenes.
>It has nothing to do with culture, ideology, personality, but an iron law of geopolitics.
It has everything to do with Russian culture, ideology, personality, and a XIXth century geopolitics mentality.

>>2368601
>defensive pact against niggers of Europe who constantly extort, threat with nuclear weapons, chimp out and attack their neighbors is a mortal threat

ziggers is a state of mind

>>2368615
To add to this, nobody wants Russian land. Nobody wants to invade Russia. Nobody wants that barren wasteland with some resources here and there. Nobody wants it worthless population, not even Russia wants it population (which is why they don't care how many die in Ukraine for no reason)

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>>2368615

Invalid argument. There's a reason Russia expanded the way that it did. These are the following regions where Russia/Soviet Union stopped expanding:

The Tien Shien Mountains
Siberia
Caucasus Mountains
Ukraine+Belarus

Why these specific regions? Because these are chokepoints and areas where a Russian state can anchor itself. It has nothing to do with culture or anything. Even if the Russians were made of French, they would have behaved in the exact same way. Culture doesn't shape geography. Geography shapes culture.

>>2368619

Germany invasion of Russia and multiple other invesions across history says otherwise. You are not decieving anybody.

>>2368630
>Germany invasion of Russia and multiple other invesions across history says otherwise. You are not decieving anybody.
See, you're stuck in the old stalinist mentality where the world revolves around imperial conquest. We evolved past that. You did not.
We want social, cultural and economic growth. You just want banan, and you will rape and murder civilians to get it. And you wonder why the entire civilized world allies against you

>>2368633
>we
Who is 'we'?

>>2368634
"We" as in white people. "You" as in the subhuman vatnigger.

>>2368633

Subject 2:

I'm not Russian friendo. The world revolves around imperial conquest. The entire structure rest on the domination of the American Empire. It is the great linchpin of the modern globalised system since Breton Woods.

The western world didn't evolve. What happend is that after WW2 only two superpowers were left: The US and the Soviet Union. People may mask it, but they were two dominions in the simplest sense. The decisions that used to be made in Paris and London, or Berlin, now they were being done in Washington and Moscow.

Germany and Japan were conquered, and subjugated, and forced to adapt under the Pax Americana. Without it, they would have not de-Nazified. In the same vein, the colonial powers of France and Britain didn't cease to be colonial out of their hearts. They cease to be colonial because the indigenous populations mounted resistance, and the US realised it was a lighting rod for Soviet support. France is still a colonial power, with one of NATO's most active foreign policies in Africa and other places. the UK has colonial remnants elsewhere as well, including Northern Ireland.

>>2368648
>you must be Ukrainian if you hate Ziggers
giga cope lol

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>>2368537
Completed the first mission which and got to see how a bit of infantry customization. As for vehicles, you only get those that you can capture from the enemy, and I lost both that I managed to get.
It was quite long for a first mission, lasting well over an hour. You are pretty much going to scour through most of the map following main and all secondary objectives. Dunno how I would rate it for someone who isn't a Warfare fan difficulty wise. Stats say I took out 500+ infantry and 35+ vehicles but it felt pretty fair to me. At least with managing to intercept tank crews before they could use the tanks. That secondary mission seems pretty much mandatory since you don't get much in terms of anti vehicle weapons. Being mobile via transports was encouraged.
Pathfinding seem to be about the same as it was in Terminator, that is, significantly better that Syrian Warfare
UI is serviceable but I'm think SW had better view of vehicle modules and armor degradation.
Soundtrack, explosion, gunfire, vehicles and unit lines seem excellent. Character voices are scuffed as always.
Management section was stingy, but now you can give units medals to increase stats and buy them weapons without a store. My Rosguard squad had only AKs and I was able to give them a sniper, RPG and smokes with there being other options such as MGs, armor, radios, drones and such. From there you can buy upgraded weapons if you have their predecessors.
Performance seemed much better than Front Edge.
Overall it was pretty fun. Don't know how many missions there are in total but I read they planned to rework at least one mission for the Steam release.

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>>2368686
Some other small things I noticed:
There are hiluxes and jihadmobils. Such as the one Georgians will bum rush you with.
All English voice actors seem to be Russian.
Enemy units that are under fire from multiple MGs and squads, even if in strong buildings and taking little damage will get pinned, suppressed and flee. As will units that have been decimated.
You can now evacuate any unit you wish mid mission.
I noticed they don't allow you to enter apartment blocks or a vaguely kindergarten looking building during the mission.
Helicopters seem less retarded and fucky to use.
Sprint on units is very much a welcome addition.
Cutscenes show a lot of real life footage. Some of it I remember seeing on /pol/ years ago as the war was unfolding.

>>2368639
>I'm not Russian friendo.
they are completely right about you though
>The world revolves around imperial conquest.
no, it doesn't - it's not a zero sum game
russia has the mindset of a 17th century despotism
i sincerely thought that they were moving towards integrating their economy with europe, with projects like nordstream etc, but then they chimped out and wanted their ukrainian banan because map bigger
the idea that european countries will ever go to war against one another is simply absurd at this point because they are so absolutely integrated and it would be virtually impossible to disentagle them at this point but russia remains outside as a basic economy refusing to have trust for mutual gain because they project their own backstabbing malice

Can I drop VDV into the sea?

You must be 18 or older to post here, child.

>>2368717
Da comrade. VDV scuba force to refloat submarine moskva.

>>2368291
It basically was.
The initial battle for the airport was a disaster in which an entire regiment of VDV (then russia's best troops by far) was stranded and essentially wiped out in a poorly-planned deep strike.
The following day, they attacked the airport again, this time with a much larger air assault and a follow-on mechanized force crossing the Belarusian border. This assault ultimately failed to capture the airport intact as the defender's had time to sabotage the facilities and withdraw, denying russia use of the air bridge their offensive plan had hinged on. The battle then ground for around a month in the nearby urban areas before russia was forced to cut its losses and retreat back across the border.

There's really just no way to frame it other than a decisive russian defeat, which is why propaganda like this game exists to rewrite the history that they can't spin.

>>2368717
>>2368721
Where does this VDV dropping into water even come from? All I could find were those shitty nafo memes.

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>>2368639
>>2368648
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>>2368762
>>2368772
Lad, the lefties and troons just hate based Slavanons because they have gifted us so many good memes over the years. Cheeki Breeki Slavsquat when we were kids and now Wojaks. Truly the unsung heroes of the ‘chans!

>>2368616
are you a fucking retard dude? yes, if you're the said niggers of Europe, yes, that is a mortal threat against you, which is what the post you replied to said.
fucking hell the subhumans on this site get to me sometimes.

>>2368772
>Ukraine is a weak corrupt cryptorussian nazi state and a huge formidable threatening western bastion at the same time
depending on the current narrative need of course

>>2368762
Not sure, but VDV doesn't exist anymore. Their existence ended in hostomel. They are heroes ornamented with the postmortem medal of banan

>>2368745
It's incredibly amusing how you say this while at the same time proclaiming Ukraine is a rogue nazi state in need of liberation.
Funny how there's no evidence for these fantasies.

>>2368870
yes that's what the post said, what is your problem here? you really are retarded, aren't you?

>>2368776
I don’t think you can call it a defeat since Bakhmut was levelled to the ground and lost all and any strategic value while soil surrounding it is now 101% dead vagnerites and the very same vdv’s that partook in Goystomel gesture of good will

>>2368869
Pathetic strawman, I accept your concession.

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Does literally no one want to talk about the game?

>>2368937
Kek. Two more weeks and Kyiv falls comrade!

>>2368950
what game?

>>2368937
>Jewtin's own explanation of special military operation reasons is a pathetic strawman
mighty self-own, lmao

>>2368950
You know very well the only purpose of this game is to be /pol/ bait.

>>2368958
You are illiterate.
>>2368956
Call me when the last hohol falls.

>>2368950
No? It's just a half-finished Syrian Warfare/Terminator with a fresh coat of paint. There's no reason the demo for this game deserved its own thread when there's an ongoing syrian warfare/terminator thread on the catalog. OP was just trying to shill.

The only thing interesting or remarkable about this game is the fact that it's a comically blatant propaganda piece trying to rewrite the history of a lost battle on a still-ongoing war. And at the current pace of development it probably won't even release in time to still be a relevant propaganda piece.

>>2368762
there was a video where a group of russian helicopters were traveling over water and one got shot down

>>2369035
>It's just a half-finished Syrian Warfare/Terminator with a fresh coat of paint.

Weird way to prove you haven't played the game but ok

>>2368762
It was from one of the debunked early stories out of the war that was just funny enough it stuck around.

Why, of all battles, would they pick a battle they lost?

>>2369010
Why are you replying to me you stupid cunt? I'm the based auth right lad trying to talk some sense into this Russia hating prick. God I can't stand pontificating lefties who harp on about traditional European countries.

>>2369125
But they didn't

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>>2369035
Thread with the Terminator OP was a thread about good looking strategy games.
The demo mission was good. You weren't overstretched nearly as much as in Terminator, some of the defense and offensive work was given to an AI ally meaning you can work as a mobile strike group and secondary objectives weren't CBT to complete without prior knowledge. And unlike Terminator it didn't have any bugs in the earlier mission that made the already badly balanced missions and mission designs even more of a pain in the ass. If this is the quality I can expect from the rest of the game it is already better that base game Terminator. As for if it will be better that Return to Palmyra we'll have to see as that one has some of the best missions in the "series".
>And at the current pace of development it probably won't even release in time to still be a relevant propaganda piece
I know you didn't play the game but did you take a look at the store page before coming to this thread?

>>2369173
>calls himself based
>just like russia calls itself the victor despite not achieving a single one of its goals
Pottery

>>2368613
>Might makes right in the end and we have orders of magnitude more
Who is the we you are talking about again?

>>2369263
It could even be argued that they achieved negative goals given their fuckery directly resulted in sweden and finland joining nato.

>>2369121
>debunked
Lmao keep coping

>>2369297
Yes anon NATO is doing very hot right now lol

>>2369263
Why are you bloody tone policing me, you sodding leftie cunt?

>>2369297
I'm sure Russia is pissing themselves over 20,000 nordic reservists who won't answer the call of an "ally" anyway.

>>2369405
they seemed to be when they seethed and threatened to nuke and then did nothing like little pussies

>>2353032
So do you get bonus points for mowing down grandparents and their dogs in civilian cars driving down the street?

>>2369405
>N-NATO doesn't matter it's weak
then there's no problem with Ukraine joining it, right? If it's so weak and irrelevant, why does it matter if Ukraine joins it?

>>2369307
Yes debunked, there was never a vdv paradrop into odessa that landed in the black sea.
>>2369368
>right now is 2023 when king monke threatened the big banan and then swept it under the rug when his bluff was called
Big cope

>>2369479
>It was real in my mind!
>>2369492
NATO does not accept membership from nations already at war.

>>2369558
What war?

>>2369558
Right so there was no threat of ukraine joining nato

>>2369614
That wasn't why the war started anyway.

>>2369484
Those are Ukrainian special forces.

>>2369637
Why was it started then?

>>2369698
>strategy game where you cant play as OPFOR

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>>2368418
Not how wars work.

>>2369991
The great thing about this image is that it's absolutely true. The western allies never made it far enough up Italy to have a significant impact on its industrial centers or threaten a breakthrough into the Axis heartland.

The maximum success achieved in Italy was in the initial landing and subsequent Italian surrender, which rescued the soviets from Operation Citadel. After that it was just a costly grind to keep ~1m axis troops pinned in an irrelevant front.
If the best you can claim is that you're advancing like the allies at Monte Cassino but everywhere, across the whole front, for 4+ years, at monumental human and material cost, then it seems that there has indeed been a critical misunderstanding in how modern warfare works

you on both sides ITT are feedin on epstein tier globalist satanic propaganda. stop chimping out like an animal

>>2369200
Im sorry who controls Hosotmel? Thats right, you zigger ape.

>>2353076
Good goy

>>2353224
I don't think many russians have been drafted at all.

>>2370302
at least your family will get a nice big sack of onions and 20 packs of extra cheezy cheetos as a reward for your valiant sacrifice. If they actually drafted everyone that would be reduced to half an onion and a handful of cheetos

>>2368932
>uhhh we lost Berlin but it was bombed to the ground so it doesn't matter
your bitter tears are delicious

>>2370299
>>2370310

Russians are brainwashed cattle

>>2370310
Male tears is semen

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I'm gonna get it just for the lolz

call me when Ukrainian campaign is added, I'm more into shooting kacaps

didn't even the stalker 2 devs get fucking drafted. you have no devs left to make propaganda games

>>2370787
Old ones were all fired, and when one of them died he was used as a marketing guinea pig.

>>2370797
Studio owner was a fucking faggot. No one should have supported that sequel.

>>2369765
>No response
Because it really was the entire reason why the war was started, and it was all made up from the very beginning.

>>2369405
>Finland's reserve force consists of approximately 870,000 to 900,000 trained individuals, with a wartime mobilized strength of 280,000 soldiers.
Finland also has the largest/one of the largest artillery forces in Europe. Keeping Finland and Sweden neutral had absolutely been a long-term goal of Russia. Before the war in Ukraine, Putin tried to dictate terms to them, not allowing them to join NATO. lol

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devs wrote there will be 3 more games: mariupol, 2023 counteroffensive, kursk.

they plan to release front edge this year

So how is it? Reskin of Syrian warfare with ATGM cuckoldry or something different?

>>2371029
SW mechanics, new engine, cover system outside the buildings, morale system for both player's and AI units, unit customization

ATGM still rapes both player and enemy

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Oh nonono ukie bros! It's actually good?!

>>2369997
Blame the mutt Mark Clark for that blunder

If you restricted voting on Alberta independence only to those who have lived 5 years or more in Alberta there is no way separation would lose.

>>2371007
Based of them. Those two are brothers...united in RPG........
>>2371037
I'm liking it a lot even though I have to save scum a shitton, I had to do it to steal my beloved BMP-2s.
>>2371044
I'm betting it will get review bombed soon, I already saw one larping faggot leave a review lmao.

>>2371350
>I'm liking it a lot even though I have to save scum a shitton
The end of the first mission with the 10 or so APCs rolling in is punishing as hell. I've been playing on realistic though.

>Truly inspiring stuff. If your idea of entertainment is dressing up war crimes as gameplay mechanics, then congratulations - this is your masterpiece.
It's s just a tasteless attempt to turn war crimes into a spectacle. But hey, I guess for Russia that's just another Tuesday.
WTF I love ziggers now

>>2371362
whomst are you quotationing?

>>2371371
buckbroken ukie reviewers on the steam page

>tfw atgm team wasted all 4 missiles and didn't hit any vehicle

Syrian Warfare vibes

>>2368284
>whole point of the battle was to capture the airport so that supllies could be brought in
>if planes had been able to land they wouldn't have been overextended
Curious

Finally, an actual release at cs rin ru

its just a save and load simulator like Syrian Warfare, this is ass

we liked syrian warfare thoughever

propaganda in this game is so fucking funny and over the top lol, but the actual game is nice, very responsive and good pathfinding and unit models are very nice and detailed, very cute little paratroopers, its not super long but worth the 15 euro if you can bite trough that ridiculous "we are the good guys actually" meme

>>2371541
Don't bother, it's like discussing philosophy with a carrot.

>>2372148
why do you think they aren't the good guys?

Cool vibe with the game. But I have the same problem as Syrian Warfare, the game throws complete asspulls at you that you WILL lose to without knowing it is coming. So if you dont have a save ready enjoy replaying the mission.
Also it is very micro intensive. Hopefully they stick with it like they did with Syrian Warfare because I want to see some later war DLC with having to dodge fpv drones.

>studio only wants to make cat games
>cat games don't sell
>make propaganda games to survive
>propaganda games actually good RTT game
>somehow no other studio is willing to make similar RTT games
W H Y

Do AI still have unlimited ammo like SW? I hated Damascus Suburbs, enemy ATGM teams never ran out of ammo while my ATGMs ran out very fast

>>2372257
because they are targeting civilian infrastructure and bombing civilians instead of military targets?

Creative director's latest interview
https://youtu.be/fVN8dT3YzPo?

All Russians Must Die No Exceptions

>>2372524
what is your question?

>>2372596
they aren't the good guys because they are targeting civilian infrastructure and bombing civilians instead of military targets. What is your question?

>>2372600
>they aren't the good guys because they are targeting civilian infrastructure and bombing civilians instead of military targets
this isn't a question. why did you end it with a question mark?

>>2372535
What the hell, Shutov still works there? Guess I should've expected that but it's still surprising.

>>2372486
>cat games don't sell
Cat games were a necessity to tide them over in the wake of 2008 crisis, they instantly pivoted back to tactics when given the chance.

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The most important keybinds in the game

>>2372655
I barely had to do any save scumming on hard. One to two times depending on the mission. Being able to evacuate and call in fresh squads really helped.

>defend these 5 zones at once
>while covering an allies retreat
>while dealing with a helicopter
>while getting rushed by mercenaries
>while special forces cum in your ass

>>2372669
now a tank (enemy) and a time limit added

>find the artillery spotter while fighting off waves of enemies also destroy the tanks on the other side of the map and also take the enemy headquarters at the same time :)

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Missions 1, 4 and 6 are great, with the rest being alright. First in particular is great because you are working in limited numbers, have to move around a fair bit and that forces you to scavenge some BTRs or hiluxes., in addition to being the longest. Fourth is pushing you on all sides while trying to attack a bunch of convoys. Sixth is mission 4 lite but there were some problems for me.
In mission with the stadium enemy vehicles spawned right in front of me as I was pushing the left checkpoint. In mission 4 enemy will spawn right up your ass if you don't advance with your whole group. Mission 5 had a similar issue with ATGM BTRs, transports and RPGs spawning in and immediately mauling my best infantry which was trying to take the zone, then a helicopter that wasn't mentioned once doing three attacks on the checkpoint building before SAMs finally got him, spotters squad that got themselves killed because AI was retarded and finally the secondary mission recon squad deciding to bumrush the middle of a fight between the aforementioned building, 5 enemy squads and two vehicles. Sixth one was all gas no breaks until the half way point and then the enemies just stopped coming in. Don't know if it's because I dealt with them too quickly or due to a bug. Then I need to clear two checkpoints in 10 minutes which I do and then sit waiting for something to attack as the convoys pass by. There was some minor attacks towards the end until the last stand. Also the early missions felt stingy with customization points.
There were some neat details I noticed. Captured vehicles would have "V"s plastered on them on the next mission, same types of vehicles had different kinds of luggage and letter placements and so on. I wish that Mariupol game they are working on brings back Terminator's vehicle customization, both visual and functional. Infantry customization is pretty much perfect.
I would rank it above Syrian Warfare and below Return to Palmyra

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AND ANOTHER FUCKING CONVOY
I DONT EVEN HAVE FUCKING AMMO, ALL THE AMMO POINTS HAVE BEEN BLOWN THE FUCK UP

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AND NOW AN ARMED ONE FROM ANOTHER DIRECTION
Also this doesnt include the convoy that will arrive in 5 minutes.
I dont even have AK ammo for half my units. I just have a blob of unarmed faggots running away from people

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>look away for 1 minute

>>2372717
There is a Ural near the new HQ. You can order it to disperse supplies if someone is driving it and transported units automatically get resupplied while inside. Transports do have limited supplies however.

>HQ decides to relocate
>straight into ukranian infantry

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Yes, this truly is the most efficient way to reach your destination.

They should have given you control of the HQ squad for this shit, and just a time limit to get it inside the next HQ location.

well I finally beat the first mission. I was about to alt+F4 when I saw the radio start talking about incoming tanks, felt relief when I saw they were friendly.

Do I have to end a mission with my crew inside a vehicle to keep it? I was using little buhanka and a captured BTR the whole mission, but didnt get the option to bring them with me because I disembarked the weapon teams I had driving them so they could fight in the end.

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>>2372777
You only keep vehicles from second mission onward.

>>2372784
Ziggas adopting loli porn humanised version of that truck as their mascot still is one of the funniest moments

>>2372784
Guess I will buy the game then, since me struggling with the first mission was just the demo.
Is there a way to get more of the supply points for upgrading and equipping units? Or do you just get a set amount after each mission?
Do I get more for doing side objectives?

>>2372800
lol what do you mean whataboutism?
>what about that time anon posted like a faggot and it made me cringe
^ i don't think this counts as whataboutism

>>2372791
And all you retards got was an ugly dyke.

>>2372940
>hates aryan women
>wants to fuck kids
Tell me more about yourself quanon

>>2373206
she looks like a man bud. If you're into that, well, I aint surprised.

>>2373253
>adding irrational fear of adult women and projection to personal profile

>>2372810
There's a way to get more points, just capture the Western weapons like NLAWs and Javelins and sell them so you can get more. They aren't too significantly better and you want your ATGM teams to keep the Metis since it can get HE rockets

2nd mission, how do you complete the objective to stop the tanks from deploying?

>>2373437
Its technically still the first mission
But I sent 2 squads over there right away, cleared the area. Then just leave a squad parked in front of the tanks until the objective goes away. Multiple tank crews will make a dash for the tanks and if you just clear the first crew and leave you will get fucked later.

>>2373351
Xe looks like a teen dude, no breasts to speak of.

>>2372498
It appears they do yes. There's no ai supply runs or anything like that. On that note it's not really a simulation per say but the AI really just functions as a set piece for missions that you have to solve.

>>2372684
You aren't supposed to fight the enemies around the base in the first mission. The AI allies have infinite ammo and will only fall when they're scripted to. Move all your forces around like a blob besides leaving one squad to hunt the spotter

>>2372740
>>2372752
the scripting and objectives are very unclear but if you do not clear the area the HQ moves through beforehand it will be killed instantly

buy an ad

>>2373489
>comes into a month old 200 post thread to post his salty meme

you lost lil ukie

>>2373450
>>2372791
>grown men battling for the honor of their anime girl mascot (for "their" side of a foreign war)
What causes this?

Will there be dlc missions like Syria or sequels?

>>2373516
/int/, altchans, discord and twitter

This whole thread is just a huge post irony, right? Nobody, on a serious note, would care about two 3rd world countries fighting it out and argue about it on a thread dedicated to a game based on said conflict..Right?

Pirated the game. Was surprised to hear different voices for same unit types, a feature missing from demo.
Devs are assholes though for not giving the password to archive to let users mod.
As well as how they handle player communication in general.

>>2373537
>not giving the password to archive to let users mod
Battle Brothers devs did the same thing, yet a Spaniard cracked it by brute forcing for years.

How do the radios work? It says it gives them a 20% boost to morale support radius, but where can I see this boost radius? Are there only specific units that boost morale around them because I can give the radios to everyone?

>>2373473
damn, i remember hunkering down and trying to get the AI artillery in the terminator game to expend its ammo before i moved on. i thought i just lacked enough patience to wait them out

>>2373537
Both countries fall in the second world category actually.

>>2373537
>Nobody, on a serious note, would care about two 3rd world countries fighting it out
but enough about USA and Iran. This thread is about the 3-day special military operation

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>>2373573
Actually I read the tutorial. So what is the point of getting the advanced radios upgrade for non-command squads?

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>send 3 of my core squads to take side objective
>they are all down to half strength at the end after taking it
>enemy tank rolls up
>2 squads are still kind of in the rear gathering western equipment
>the only squad near the tank gets ready to fire
>tank MG just lights up the RPG operator and kills him through a fence in his first burst
FUCK
When should you evac your core squads?

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I should have known it would have been more than just a single tank. I was hoping the infantry showing up would have been national guard or regular army, not fucking special forces. Time to evac my core boys before they get raped.
Are the reinforcements you call in unlimited? Can i just throw waves of non-core infantry at a problem?

>>2373537
It's literally one of the devs shilling this shit here

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>special forces instantly overrun the rosgvardia I saved in the first mission
>an armored car shows up too

>>2368630
No one eants anything from russians, you offer absolutely nothing to the world other than resources that are mines with western or now eastern tech cause all that matters in that shithole is beating one chest like a an rapidamente chimp

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Does the AI just cheat vision? I have a sniper team, crawling through the grass, no enemies around, 88% camouflage.
The second they are in range of enemy mortars the mortars start firing.

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I guess it was some enemies hanging out on the edge of the map spotting me, because I killed them and was able to crawl my snipers much closer.
>crawl snipers forward
>use mortars to clear all the enemies snipers can spot
>decide the road to the enemy mortars is clear
>send BMDs to rush them
>move one house away from my frontline
>squads emerge from both sides of the road and blow up my vehicles
send in the next wave

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>take out mortars
>BMP shows up before I have a chance to get my guys reorganized for pushing forward
>turns one of my guys into mist immediately
This shit is kino

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>tfw you are in the lead of the column

>>2374112
>huh duh why would someone want to discuss the spiritual sequel to syrian warfare on /vst/
>must be the devs

>>2368762
>shitty nafo meme
Correct.
>>2368728
Absolutely none of this is true, we have helmet footage showing the exact opposite.
>>2368950
You'll never be able to talk about this game because there's one or two obsessed autists that spam every thread with their bullshit like it's on /k/. They get deleted regularly but still come back.

>>2374184
>They get deleted regularly but still come back
The problem would be solved if /k/ crossposters were banned but mods wont allow niche rts game to be discussed on board for niche rts games.

>>2374184
>Absolutely none of this is true, we have helmet footage showing the exact opposite.
So VDV not only still lives in its entirety but also Kyiv has fallen and the airbridge strategy worked and Zelensky is dead??? And russia didn't retreat across the border????

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>>2374222
The VDV are basically the marines and are just one unit. Even the VDV squad was destroyed (for which there is ZERO evidence) then there would be still many other VDV detachments. And VDV activity has been recorded multiple times since then one of which off the top of my head was in Chasov Yar.
>also Kyiv has fallen and the airbridge strategy worked and Zelensky is dead
The point was never to kill the green kike nor capture kiev. The point was to pressure ukraine to sign a deal. Which almost happened until the west got involved.
Why do you faggots keep making claims like this with zero evidence and which don't make logical sense to begin with (russian were totally aiming to capture kiev with 5 soldiers and an arsenal consisting of a shoelace) when there is recorded evidence of something that makes much more sense. Do you faggots genuinely believe this shit? Are you just trolling? Have you even bothered to check to story yourself or have just relied on 4chan posts are you news?

>>2374248
You must realise at this point that most of them(on both sides) all low IQ morons that jut choose team(country or football club, doesn't matter) and stick to it like some club fanatics. The other one are 3rd world paid shills, chat bots trained on them and influence pawns. It has nothing with logic, truth or facts. Just constant shitflinging

>3 days
Best i can give is 24 hours https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

>>2374248
>there is recorded evidence
May I see it?
Yeah, didn't think so.

>>2374271
>It has nothing with logic, truth or facts.
meant for >>2374248

>>2374248
>The point was never to kill the green kike nor capture kiev.
How do you explain the bounty on zelensky in the first days of the war, and how do you explain diversion and sabotage groups attempting to infiltrate kyiv? Remember how ukie civilians BTFO'd the infiltrators with the power of knowing a ukrainian school song?

>>2374414
write your own post you dumbfuck

>>2374419
NTA but the bounty was most likely made up and when there were some infiltrators(probably) the ukies were mostly shooting at each other especially after the weapons give away
both sides are unreliable and lying but ukies were making shit up openly

>>2374426
>was most likely made up
oh so just like all the reasons for invading Ukraine

>>2374484
yeah, the official reasons are all BS

Well the game is well made but I don't enjoy it.

>>2354430
>>2368348
The entire invasion was based on an intelligence failure. Had Russia taken Kyiv, the whole thing would've actually been over in two weeks™ and people would be gushing over Russia's brilliance and the epic bacon VDV to this day. It's easy in hindsight to dismiss the entire invasion plan as retarded, but it was actually sound given the (in hindsight faulty) information they were acting on.
>the whole thing will come off as a much closer affair than we have let to believe
I think this is proven by Ukraine's performance on the Kherson front. They just let Russia waltz across the Dnepr and into the city uncontested, which is probably what Russia expected to happen on all fronts. That such a collapse happened anywhere at all shows that their assumptions about the state of the Ukrainian military weren't entirely wrong.
The most interesting question we'll probably never get a definitive answer to is why they decided to invade in the first place. Was it an opportunistic thing (Biden weak, Europe weak, intel tells us Ukraine will fold ez, let's do it now), or did they think their hand was being forced as Ukraine was about to join NATO or enter into some other kind of defensive pact with the west?

>>2374645
It was just a timing thing. Russia was always going to come back to finish what they had started in Crimea. The first time they did it, a combination of a weak Europe and a US with poor international credibility that was distracted in the Middle East made it easy to present a fait accompli and walk away with some token sanctions that were never going to outweigh the windfall from their territorial gains.

Fast forward a decade and you have a weak Europe, a US whose international credibility had been eroded by 4 years under an isolationist leader and you had the last remaining US military commitment in the middle east ending in ignominious fashion. US public support for more war was nil but the window would close rapidly since ending the Afghanistan deployment would mean freeing up a lot of resources which could eventually be redeployed elsewhere.

A strong US means a confident Europe presenting a united front and the risk of collective action. A weak US means a meek and divided Europe and next to no risk of any action at all.

For Kremlin power calculus it was either go now or wait for the US to become embedded in another quagmire and let another decade tick by until the stars align again. Putin probably didn't think he'd live that long.

>>2353076
Listed as "Ukrainian Warfare".
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3902520/Ukrainian_Warfare_Gostomel_Heroes/

>>2374645
>The most interesting question we'll probably never get a definitive answer to is why they decided to invade in the first place.
Medvedchuk

>>2372717
>I dont even have AK ammo for half my units.
>Anon gets cut off by the enemy from resupply with no support in sight
>Enemy constantly denies them resupply by burning any munitions they could capture
That's shockingly faithful to the way things actually went for the VDV.

>>2374825
I see no lies told.

>>2374825
I confirm there are lies told.

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2375429
>The projection here is adorable. You are definitely the type of person to write off any dissenting opinions as 'blind contrarianism' without a hint of irony
I have no emotional attachment to the situation. Not like you, who sound not only emotionally invested but also argue like a woman. Personally these retarded mongoloids can slaughter each other for whatever reason they want to believe. So whatever rock your rocks. /chug/ or /uhg/ is this way. Go there and fight good fight.

>>2372791
>>2372940
I like both

>game is banned in my country because it hurts the feelings of ukies
what a clown world we live in

>>2377439
Pretty sure its banned because of the alphabet letters.
But honestly just pirate it, its a single player game and devs are retards in more ways than one.

>>2377439
Yeah, despite the Biden shadow government being out for more than a year will still have to deal with this antiquated us/them dichotomy when they are more like us than europeans are.

>>2377439
What shithole is that? I live in Poland and I can normally buy it

>>2374579
well made on the slavjank sense or well made on the "is fun for /vst/" sense

>>2377755
It doesn't feel that janky. Its just not that fun. I feel like it sits in an awkward medium of realism.

>Cats who play received a warning from Steam that Australian government is asking to forbid the sales of "Gostomel Heroes" in their country
Yikes, imagine being offended by a game so much

>>2377453
At least you're admitting to burgercucks being mutted and corrupt.

>>2378978
Needs more missions + drone warfare.
SP focused modern warfare RTT doesn't exist outside of this game.

>>2380201
What about Full Spectrum Warrior