https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXxCFMCjxw

Also SotL tested the new balance of ships, Hulks pretty much destroy everthing. And a hulk + fireship army is just unstoppable.

There's so much unit spam in the last chieftans campaigns. I honestly miss 75 unit popcap.

>>2355290
catapult galleon is a poor man’s cannon galleon, but catapult galleon (proto-chinese) outperforms the cannon galleon? how the fuck is that supposed to work

>>2355335

simple
one is designed from a complete gameplay balance perspective
the other is designed to pander to all the chinese playerbase and their stupid money because "CHINA N°1 MEDIEVAL SUPERPOWER"

*Makes 20 cannon galleons on 4 lakes*
Gl hf

Lautaro died thinking about a crunchwrap that's crazy

Reminder that 1299 is low elo

>>2355500
1302 here. been thinking about going pro...

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Here's your viking spleet, you rike?

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>>2355619
I'm against vikingspleet, but, if done, only two are needed: just a Denmark-Norway (Norse) and Swedish-Geats (Varangians) because those people groups (ie, civs are besides 3K) weren't diverse identities, mostly political

>>2355290
>hulks, which are boarding ships, counter turtle ships, which are dedicated anti-boarding ships
huh?

>>2355290
Hulk + galleon is better, of course if you no micro patrol a stack of galleons into the hulks of course they die. In feudal age fletching galleys kill hulks in 15 shots, imp galleons kills in 13.5 shots, you have good damage output you just need a frontline so you can protect your galleys. Byzantines are a little different, fire galleys are almost equal to hulks until attack upgrades come in

>>2355287
Lautaro was pretty annoying and Mapuche voicelines are so awful I can't stand playing them
If I ever hear a
>Mary Mary
again, I'll fucking snap.

Tupi voices are much better, with the female villager being top 5 sexiest females. The narration is quite bad though.

Muísca campaign was the best, THE SON OF THE SUN is such a compelling character, loved him even if the main dude was bland.

>>2355290
>And a hulk + fireship army is just unstoppable
Isn't that hard countered by demos, shore defenses, monks, etc

>>2355780
Mary Mary is so annoying it got stuck in my head and I don't even have the DLC, just from watching people play Mapuches.
Their battle cry is even worse, the one where the VA sounds like he's lowering his volume by the end.

>>2355500
Its like top 25% but this game is mostly played by boomers who refuse to learn build orders or hotkeys and bank 1000 wood by feudal age. It's not hard to get past that elo.

Spleet Celts (Irish & Scot)
Spleet Khitian (Tangut & Khitian)
Spleet Aztec (Mexica & Zapotec)
Spleet Maya (Maya & Tarascan)
Spleet Slavs (Scleveni & Rus)
Spleet Khmer (Khmer & Mon & Thai)
Spleet Ethiopia (Abyssinia & Adal & Oromo)
Spleet Saracen (Syrian & Egyptian & Iraqi & Arab & Yemeni)
Spleet Inca (Wari & Polynesians & Inca)
Spleet Japan (Taira & Tokogawa & Takeda & Minamoto & Hōjō & Oda & Otomo)

>>2355835
>Spleet Aztec (Mexica & Zapotec)
>Spleet Maya (Maya & Tarascan)

I want these solely because we need more Eagle Warrior civs. Losing Incas in that pains me greatly and none of the new civs stupidly has no Eagle Warrior at all which is an enormous shame.

Replace xbow with LB and arbs with ELB, and give britons a new castle unit. Some type of special halberdier could be kino, but idk.
It's basically never worth it to go for LBs as it is, only in TG and on forward castle playstyles.

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when will they buff handcannoneers?

>>2355841
No, stop ruining old civs.
Revmap Forgotten onwards civs instead, like Vietnamese.

>>2355840
this, and update their architecture set

>>2355835
Unique Unit ability Idea

>Ambushers
The Unique unit does not appear on the minimap.

Obviously it'd still give attack warnings, but a higher chance of catching people of guard with strategic movements.

>>2355939
How about no?

>>2355825
nobody floats wood in feudal after 1000 elo, they float it in castle age

does hera live in some sort of 3rd world ghetto?

I spent some time today refining my ideas for Vlachs
>Defensive civ
>Get pastures and fortified churches
>Spears take -40% bonus damage
>Spears, Skirms and Light cav attack 20% faster starting from Feudal
>Fortified churches +2 range
>Pastures upgrades free
>Team Bonus: archers deal +2 against cavalry
>UU: Calaras (fragile Cav Archer strong against cavalry and gunpowder, weak against infantry and archers)
>UT Castle: Scorched Earth (enemy units receive additional damage near your own damaged buildings - not DoT or other crap like that, more like your own units getting hill bonus against enemy units near your damaged buildings)
>UT Imperial: Night Raids (Light Cav and Cav Archers including UU heal for 30% of damage inflicted)
>Barracks: no 2H, no gambesons
>Archery Range: no HCA
>Stable: no Pala
>Blacksmith: missing last melee attack, last inf and last cav armor
>Uni: no fortified walls, no keep, no architecture (overall meant to have weak conventional defenses which the boosted fortified church is meant to compensate for, both because of its novelty but also because it has a historical basis - Ottomans demanded that both Moldavia and Wallachia tear down existing fortifications and were forbidden from building new ones so Vlach voievods used to fortify churches instead and justify those as "minor defenses to deter raiders and bandits")
>Navy: not sure yet but really crappy and generic

>>2356197
Oh yeah, I should've clarified that UT imp only applies against "human" units, so it doesn't work against navy, siege, buildings

>>2356197
>Another lightcav attack speed bonus
>Another cavalry lifesteal bonus
>Weird ass castle UT

Cool team bonus though, but it just pushes the civ towards a ton of different directions.
Also Pastures + Churches might be interesting.

>>2355290

WHY IS THE HULK NOT A SLOW DEFENSIVE UNIT like Pikemen against the Fire Ship's cavalry or something

>>2356203
Yeah, it's a bit weird because it turns out coming up with new stuff and worrying about balance and trying to avoid completely unique gimmicks is hard.
Basically I wanted to accomplish 3 things which I view as core to the civ identity:
>Meant to be a fragile civ both offensively and defensively that can't really win easily in a straight fight so instead relies on good trades, trash units and a mix of potent raids and very annoying to fight on their own home turf
>Implement both pastures and fortified churches as making the regional buildings more common would expose players to them more and make them less weird to play against + we do have solid historical basis to give Vlachs both
>Since cavalry was used extensively by everyone in the region and I envisioned this as a 3 civ DLC with Serbs and Dalmatians/ Sclaveni/ Whatever I wanted to give each one a different type, Serbs would get a heavy cavalry and the West Balkan civ needs the Stradioti, no other real choice desu than a cav archer
The idea with both UTs is that they are significant but situational bufrs to the Vlachs that would force the other player to prevent the Vlachs from fighting on their own terms, much like how Ottomans eventually dealt with them. As long as the Vlachs decide where and how you fight them they win but if you deny them the opportunity to harass you or be a general pain in the ass you can win since they are a fragile civ designed to slow you down and bleed you out.

>>2355290
>>2355758
>Warship with a close range melee attack. Strong vs. Fire Ships. Weak vs. Galleys.
My ass. Was playing the Saladin campaign the other day and in the last two scenarios a couple of hulks were capable of shredding every fireship and galley effortlessly.

i'm coming back after 2 years, are georgians still insufferable?

>>2355939
>The Unique unit does not appear on the minimap.
Only pro players look at the mini map anyway

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what do Albanians have to their medieval history besides Skanderberg (who was Serbian) and being Byzantine/Turkish subjects
its like the Vlachs and Dracula

>>2356275
Czechs are Slavs? I thought they were central Europeans sort of like Southern Germans. I forgot the official name of the race.

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>>2356280
Bohemians

>>2356109
There are plenty of players above 1k who have market economy,1500 and below is complete shitter territory, micro/one trick civs can only carry you so far.
>>2356155
Is Argentina 3rd world ghetto?
>>2356247
>Doesn't know about 3 kingdoms yet
>Doesn't know about champis

>>2356290
>Bohemians
Thats not a race but sure

>>2356155
his skin color tells you the answer

I really like how civs in AoE4 actually have unique mechanics instead of a couple different units and modifiers. Would be cool to have a RoR-style DLC for it since I'm generally biased against all civilizations after antiquity.

>>2356393
2

What do you guys think of this civ design I just came up with?

>Civ (Archer & Monk Civilization):
- Monks +1/+2 range (In Castle Age/Imperial Age)
- Units (10 pop space) can garrison and heal inside monasteries (2x the speed vs a Town Center)
- Towers (incl BBTs) costs -50s
- Wood cutters drop off 10% extra
- TEAM Bonus: Trade Carts +2/+1 Armor

>UTs:
- Castle: Palisade Walls gain 200% HP, +1/+1 Armor
- Imperial: Archer-line & Towers receive +2 attack against Infantry

were burmese always labeled as "infantry and cavalry civilization"? I could've sworn the techtree showed them as "elephant and monk civilization"

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>>2356371
The Czechs migrated into and lived in Bohemia for most of their recordable history
Calling them Czechs instead of Bohemians is a modern ethnonymic development

>>2356437
Monk range is probably something that should not be messed with. Garrisonable monasteries is just fortified churches. Dropping off more wood is not a very interesting eco bonus and imp tech is kinda useless. Castle age tech, cheap towers and team bonus are interesting bonuses.

>>2356109
I've seen people float 1k wood in feudal at like 1400 elo when coaching. You overestimate how good 1000 elo players are

>>2356472
>Monk range is probably something that should not be messed with.
Why not?
>Garrisonable monasteries is just fortified churches.
No, because Fortified Churches shoot arrows and boosts eco etc. And I don't think they heal up units.
>Imp tech is kinda useless.
It would help a lot against Eagles, Champis, Huskarls, Ghulams, Champskarls, well all infantry units actually and is a way to get around not having Hand Cannoneers. I think techs that are situational and not great in every matchup or game are the best.

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Why the hell the incas have those mapache wood totems in their UI?

>>2356477
>Why not?
Have you never played the game, 10 range monks convert everything inside arena and out of arena too, there is a reason why block printing is an imp tech

>>2356486
They only have 1 additional range in Castle Age. Briton Crossbow have 1 extra range too, which is way better and more useful in most situations.

>>2356479

because the UI is for regions, not for specific civs
same why Mapuches have Incas stone walls despite never building any

>>2356530
NTA but I was going to correct you since I was 100% sure UI was unique for each civ in AoE2 and was architecture specific in AoE1 only but apparently they didn't bother with unique UIs for DE and I just never noticed 11
Kinda weird DE specific downgrade

>>2356821
the faded picture in the center panel is unique for each civilization

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>>2356364
>YOU HAVE 1499 ELO YOU NOOB FUCK!!!

>>2356477
Monk range increase might be fine if the civ misses out on redemption/attornment, they would be able to convert stuff without them being able to fight back on closed maps.

Fortified churches heal at double the rate of castles.

I guess I didn't really think about high pierce armor infantry.

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There's a fun potential civ bonus that's always been buzzing in my head for years, I already know it's great but you guys should be made aware of it too:
>Castles can serve as drop-off points for all resources
I will be signing autographs out front

>>2357170
>barracks can act as a food drop off point
>archery range can act as a wood drop off point
>stables can act as a gold drop off point
thank you, thank you, i'll be here all week

>Posts garbage ass idea for a civ
>Haha wouldn't these civ bonuses be funny
We don't need anymore civs and frankly nobody gives a shit it but you want to feel like a reddit intellectual by suggesting obscure literal who civs

lmao games with the new civs usually end below 20 (real time) minutes
faggots kept asking for more dark age action and now they are complaining, almost as if people don't really know what they want

>>2357170
Delhi in Age4 can do an upgrade to turn their keeps into TC's, I always forget to use it effectively

>>2357234
they just made it too strong, its getting hit with a significant nerf in a week. I think its still going to be strong, just more fair now and can actually be countered without going champi yourself.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBeEV9vHzo

They literally destroyed the champi warrior

>reduced attack
>reduced speed
>cost increased
>trained much slower
>upgrades cost more in feudal and castle age
>builds outposts slower
>no extra LOS so they are actually one of the worst early scouts in the game
>removed any bonus vs buildings

hope you are happy assholes, now the southamerican civs have no opening in dark age

>>2357303
Good.

>>2357303
>noooo my OP cheese strat is nerfed, I'm going to lose 300 elo!!!

>>2357309

bro is not the dark age strat, you cant even open with champis even like you were making a maa rush, because they wont train fast enough to arrive to enemy base before they already have archers ready.

Newfag here
What was more busted, cumans at release, khitans at release or champi civs at release.

>>2357317
Meant to "?" at the end.

>>2357317

cumans by far because at the time, patches came every 3 months, and unlike the champi rush you couldnt stop the cumans from double walling their base and just booming to castle with 20 steppe lancers

it hasnt even been 3 weeks and they are already fixing the SA civs

Khitans were also terrible but because the 3K was so unpopular there wasnt that many khitans pickers on the ladder

>>2357131
>Monk range increase might be fine if the civ misses out on redemption/attornment, they would be able to convert stuff without them being able to fight back on closed maps.
There's always a way to fight back. You could say the same about Briton Crossbow with their extra range. "Well Mangonels can't hit them anymore". That's just not true. Also monks are a niche unit. But OK thanks for your thoughts anyway.

>>2357317
champis > cumans > khitans

>>2357317
Huns

>>2357303
they really raped the Incas this DLC, removed eagles and swordsmen and got this dogshit unit instead that is now completely useless, and slingers got way harder to make in the midgame since they're so food heavy now

Inca literally cannot do anything except straight archers now, there are no other viable options until imp, the american civ that used to be the flexible counter-focused one is now the most limited in options

and we didn't even have to pay for the DLC to get violated like this

FUCK CYSION AND FUCK FORGOTTEN EMPIRES

>>2357303
the design of the champi warrior was retarded in the first place. I remember an anon here asking for a dark age unique unit, I hope he sees why shit like that is always a bad idea.
Should have just given them militia instead of trying to be quirky

>>2357204
fug off

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Castle dropper has no concept of "sunk cost fallacy"

>>2357170
Thracians in Chronicles can drop off at towers and castles

>>2357400
post hand and Elo rating

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Siege tower jumpscare

>>2357400
My god will you ever shut the fuck up?

>>2357424
I actually find jeetmasterposting funny, sorry not sorry
Also
>Fortified Wall
Does that ever make an actual difference

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>>2357463
>Does that ever make an actual difference
Usually yes but not in this case in particular

>>2357483
>argentina
>first world
maybe in 1940

>>2357483
That's more of your thing, since you are indian

>>2356275
>Slavs_explained.png
Surely, all of you my fellow slavs find this incredibly cringe?

>>2357360
yeah i'm actually really mad, they were my favourite meso and now i'll prob never touch them again since i have no interest in this champi warrior

>>2357360
>slingers got way harder to make in the midgame since they're so food heavy now
and they aren't nearly as anti infantry as they were, which made them unique and fun
they honestly fucking suck now, trash slingers are trash indeed

>>2357480
>floating 4500 gold in castle age

>>2357480
>Usually yes
Does it tho?
I almost never research it outside of super campy games that last for 2 hours and you gotta wall in the trade or some shit
I feel like if you're stone walled already (which is a huge IF, I never have time nor res to do it) people are either gonna HOOOVER around your base waiting for an overchop or they'll just castledrop you and imp.
I only really see stone walls being destroyed in the very rare game someone decides to ram push, and I dunno how much time this tech saves you

>>2357611
I genuinely failed to notice my gold when I was tunnel visioned on spamming castle age pikemen to full teal's rams and help fight off the soon-to-be purple paladins

>>2357521
being cringe is the slavic way

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>>2357624
Alright I suppose I should explain how these Oasis games roll out
Basically, our plan is to do a non-committal MAA/Scout rush while I quickly wall off our entire side with stone walls, so my pocket can quickly boom to imp and overwhelm the enemy with Tiger cav and me either flooding castle age pikemen or try to keep up getting to imp into halbs and siege
By the time our rushing units die, we are completely walled off safely and booming to castle age, and more often than not enemy players DO tend to push my walls, I get fortified walls since I was expecting for them to try siege my walls, moreso considering purple was Spanish and him fielding these OP castle age conqs was a real chance.
Besides, since I already have full huge walls might as well get fortified walls, might buy me more time to react to stuff.
Sadly that game in particular fortified walls did not do much, but between me having a wall of TCs, having a siege workshop at hand and teal coming in clutch with lancers, we won anyways

>>2357624
>which is a huge IF, I never have time nor res to do it
The only real chance for you to stone wall off is by MAA rushing, already having sent vills before feudal age to the border of the map to wall the far sides, and maybe buy 100 stone at the market if you get unlucky with the forest spawns
Worth noticing, if there's an enemy Saracen in the other team, then this strat is useless, since the flank can actually destroy walls with archers in feudal age

>>2357638
So they're only useful in this niche scenario, gotcha

>>2357625
Tunnel vision is my biggest weakness in this game. I often just forget to macro.

>>2357641
Fortified walls are great on Black Forest too when you have like 6 layers of walls and need to delay the opponent from entering.

>>2357490
Meant for >>2357424

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Hon hon hon, viva la France and FUCK your siege

>>2357641
Pretty much, MAA rush is the only rush that can actually afford you enough time to get walls up, Scouts and Archers are simply too slow and you will end fighting a long feudal war instead of comfy booming behind walls.
And mind you need a good MAA rush civ too, doubt any generic civ could pull this kind of strat. Also have a decent pocket with a fast feudal up time but knows when to stop making Scouts (usually at 4 ot 5)

>>2356393
I don't like how almost every civ in aoe4 needs its own build order. It basically forces people to main only a small number of civs.

>>2357694
Get new material

>>2357395
Thracians are a bizarre civ
bonuses and techs are all over the place

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Turns out Mapuche imperial tech bonus making everyone UU's cheaper, including teal's Persian war elephant, on top of blue unit convertion resistance, made this push literally unstoppable

>>2357757
I like them a lot but I wish they got the peltast.
Macedonians and Purus get 2 UUs and Thracians only get Rhompaias

>Internet complains constantly about champis being OP
>Devs nerf them
>Internet complains even harder and threaten to refund the DLC
What causes this?

>>2358363

developer incompetence

My civilization being in the game is not enough, it should be split into every single town in the country and mine would have me as the unique unit and I would have a 9999 range monk beam, infinite vision, 999999999999 hp and the monk beam would make all enemies explode in 0.1s and my walkspeed would be 666 and have 99999999 armor for everything and spawn boars while garrisoning.

>>2357877
This but also Skiritai for Sparta. Pure infantry is too one note.

>>2358363
>"3 is too much can you set it to 2 instead"
>dev sets it to 1
>"1 is too little can you set it to 2 instead"
very simple my friend

>>2358383
I wish I could play Chronicles again desu
The VA for the unit is amazing, I still have the battle cries on my mind from time to time

newfag here.
What civ should I play? I'm leaning towards Italians and Romans but I like the aesthetic of the asian civs like the Shu and Wui / Wei. Is there a website with all the data winrate etc for each civ?

When berserker buff, or when scandi dlc

>>2358447
Play whatever you find most fun. Except Chinese or Cumans, never play them if you're a newfag
Things like winrates or matchups don't matter until 2k elo so just relax and have fun
>website for stats
https://aoestats.io/

>>2358463
Ok I'll stick with the romans. Still I'm trying to learn the game and don't know how many villagers you need for each age etc. also have to learn all the hotkeys this shit is complicated.

>>2358464
Don't worry about shit too much, just learn a basic build order for the first 15ish villagers then vibe from there, this game's at its most fun when you just adapt
For Dark Age you wanna make between 19 to 25ish vills depending on your intentions for Feudal: the more vills you make, the more resources you will gather while your TC is researching the age up tech, which means you'll be able to do more stuff once you're actually in Feudal. But if you're too greedy, you'll end up getting rushed by a Feudal army while you haven't clicked up yet, which is usually game over

>>2357773
TheJeetmaster was defeated... that push was LITERALLY unstoppable... Ganges flows with hindu blood... He will report this post too... But India will never forgive... Keep poking the elephant and the JeetMaster gets squished... Over and over...

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>>2358438
What is stopping you from revisiting them, anon? Do the tales of past victories get bleak? Do the old wounds ache and the old scars bleed? To walk an aged battlefield, to stand amongst the spears and the shields, to gaze upon the resting places of the fallen. To conjure their faces from nameless personas, to hear the warcries and camp songs no longer uttered, to honor the people and why they died in this place.
Then to take up the sword once again and go forth to battle. That is what it is to be a warrior, to be Spartan.
And if every bloody Athenian has to pay the price of it, so be it.

>>2358438
ALALE

>>2357773
pretty sure it stacks too so you could have 3 mapuche allies all do the tech for dirt cheap elephants

>>2358610
ITE, ANDRES

>>2358471
I managed to win a match against moderate AI. This was my second match in the game and I'm getting the gits of it. Still need to learn the ratios of how many villagers put for each resrouces. What is confusing me right now is all the kind of troops etc and how to form a good army and the order of buildings. Before Feudal Age I always build the Wooden Farm and the Mill of course but should I build the thingy that spawns soldiers too?

>>2358658
AZ ROMPHAIOSSS

is the ranked ladder alive in australia?

>>2358700
Put your Mill on berries, hunt deer with 4 villagers (they bring back the entire animal worth of food in one trip), pull boar with just 1 and bring it towards the town center before shooting with the other vills (you can garison them to do it)
You should usually make a Barracks while you're advancing to the Feudal Age unless you want to rush some Militia earlier than that.

>>2358943
Oh ok so for food I should kill all the animals around right? I usually move the sheeps or cows that I control to the Town Center but I disregard the other animals. I thought the berries were a faster way to gather food. I tried sometimes to bring the boar to the center and kill it with villagers inside the Town Hall but I have to improve my coordination and hotkeys. Thanks for the tips

>>2359001
Hunting is much faster than berries so taking the animals first is a good way to pocket some more food to advance to Feudal Age.
IIRC fishing with villagers is even faster so if you're in a map with shore fish it's useful to take that early too.

>>2358363
All they need is a dark age nerf, just slower creation time in dark age, but that's just my opinion from having watched a few games.

>>2358943
Long distance hunting is not advisable for going up 20 pop or quicker, time spent walking means you are not gathering food in that time. Little tricks like this aren't going to help a total noob, after the 3 on wood stick as many people as you can fit on the boar and then make a mill on berries because you need the mill to go up, if your hunters are idling under the TC put them on sheep. You want to always be able to make a stable/range on age up because otherwise there is no point in going feudal age, always get wood upgrades and delay your farm upgrades until you are set up to produce military. If he uses hotkeys, makes villagers consistently, builds houses and farms and produces army that will get him high on the ladder
>>2359419
You can't do a lot to the creation time because that will weaken the feudal age champi opening, the main problem with champi is that they are much more capable of laming than militias, drop their dark age speed and that changes, literally the only problem with champis is that they can end the game in five minutes and it is an easy strategy for anyone to win with

>>2358919
I'm Australian and yes, I can find a game within a few minutes.

>>2359427
Noobs are better off hunting 5 seconds away from the TC than spending Scout time deer pushing or spending 100 more wood to mill huntables.
People overemphasize how much you "lose" while walking around.

>>2359474
elo?

>>2359488
You are underestimating the distance heavily, whats more "do this to get more resources" doesn't help somebody who doesn't know how to use it in the first place, if its safe mill it, if its not safe use wood to make farms which are safe, the food you have doesn't last forever, it is good to diversify and gradually make farms

>>2359427
Can't nerf the speed in dark, because its their fucking scout you dummy.

>>2359488
>>2359504
Yeah I learned how to lure and kill boars safely and I'm learning how to push other animals to the TC. I'm using the Follow command for the knight troop but it doesn't always work correctly. Is it too much of a waste of time to make villagers kill animals that are somewhat far? Also I'm getting used to hotkeys, right now my Feudal age time is 10 minutes and 30 seconds with Mill + Lumber. I need a guide though like there are so much upgrades and shit to learn. Dark Age is rather simple but what about the others? SHould I upgrdaea my mill before placing farms? Should I Loom right after Feudal Age? When should I build barracks and mine and how many people should I place on mines? These are the questions I want to understand. Also military is a whole other ordeal that seems very complicated with all the upgrades and shit. I would love to have a blueprint with general informations to follow.

>>2359710
You should loom before fuedal, like right before if you want to be safe.
Barracks can usually wait until you basically start upgrading to fuedal unless you want to do some sort of militia rush in which case you might do it really early. Economic techs are usually best researched early, The most important being the wood upgrades, the first two farm upgrades and gold mining upgrades, stone mining upgrades are the least important. Wheelbarrow and handcart at the Town center are important, but are most important for farms.

The best way to think of military is to sort of group techs together.
Going infantry? Then you want the baracks techs and then the melee attack upgrades and infantry armor in the blacksmith.
Going cavalry? Then all the stable techs, the melee attack upgrade and cavalry armor at the stable
Going ranged units, You want the ranged attack upgrades and ranged armor at the blacksmith and then mainly Ballistics in castle age and Chemistry in imperial at the university
Going heavy on defenses, the university has upgrades for building armor/health, as well as tower upgrades, and building speed upgrades. The university also has upgrades for ships.

The castle will have a few important upgrades as well, usually your unique techs which are case by case basis, as well as conscription which is a production speed boost which is important.

Lastly long distance hunting is bad mainly because of the walking time. you want to minimize walking time of villagers to maximize their gathering time.

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Just reminding everyone that the real best AoE is free to play and has a private server with all the pay walls gone. There is also lots of new and fun content with some help from the original devs of the AoE series!

Hope to see you on soon!

>>2359750
Does it have a TheGhostmaster playing team games? If it doesn't, I won't play

>>2359496
whatever you have but upside down

>>2359732
Thanks for all the tips man so for militia I should go all in on the type I want to create first. Are there some blueprints to follow like I asked that are commonly good? I watched hera's video about Dark age and I'm trying to be close as that as possible but can't find shit for Feudal etc

>>2359750
I wish they had an option to remove the horrible ass battle music.
This game soundtrack is absolutely amazing outside of the single, mind-numbing poison to my ears battle music.
What were they thinking after the great battle music in AoM and AoE3....

Gameplay is great though, very fluid. I like the Persians.

I just learned the hard way that eagles counter archers, not CAs

>>2359732
In addition to this, melee units should always get Armor blacksmith upgrades before Attack, the opposite for ranged units.

>>2359692
Only training speed should be nerfed, not movement speed.

REVERT
THE
FUCKING
INCAS
it actually baffles me that they rekt the identity of one of the most balanced civs in the past 3 or so years, it's been consistently like B tier
slingers barely kill infantry and cant be massed in castle, all to be turned into a shitty "all around" unit that isnt fun at all to use
no militia line, no eagles
they fucking massacred this civ, why couldnt they just do their memes in their shitty new DLC civs that suck and leave the incas alone?

>>2359811
Champis were a mistake, all new civs should've gotten Eagles instead.
>muh accuracy
They all have crossbows and shit, and now Maya and Aztec swordsmen look even more out of place.

>>2359821
noooooo think about the jungle monkeys and dey culcha

>>2359799
You know, I think I will ask in the discord about that. I also always hated the battle music.

I ended up going down from 1150 elo to 950, should I consider suicide?

>>2359849
youre likely gonna have a 6 win streak now

>>2359846
Where can I find the invite link?
The battle music is so shit it always made me just want to boom and play defensive until I could win in just one big push.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuoIBYI65Q
Meanwhile the regular tracks are just 10/10

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I didnt by chink kangdomz nor the latest dlc. When do u reckon theyll be on sale?

>>2359710
Farm upgrades now give proportional returns to existing farms so it isn't important to get it right away, at lower elos you can but at higher elos making military with those resources is better.
If I go man at arms I build lumber camp then barracks then mining camp and mill so I can have the 3 militia ready and send them to his base earlier, otherwise you just want the barracks ready before feudal age. You mine gold when you need it for military or you have the food income to go castle age, man at arms you need about 2 on gold, you can take villagers off gold if you are following up with skirms but you need 50 gold for fletching. Archers you need about 4 per range, 5 helps you squeeze in fletching too.
As for upgrades it is highly important to get fletching/bodkin/bracer for ranged units as it gives them more dps and more range, melee should get armor first, and cavalry wants armor and bloodlines because armor lets you fight archers and raid under town centers.
>>2359692
Make the starting scout a champi runner

i think that we have learned that the militia line and the scout line MUST be separate
make champis a regional eagle variation instead of a militia replacement and just give them the militia line back

>>2360040
More like we learned creating new unit lines in the default settings purely to satisfy historical accuracy retards is a stupid fucking decision and all the new jungle monkey civs should've just been given eagle scouts for simplicities sake. What you said sounds better instead though I guess.

>>2360043
you are too focused on the fluff and not focused enough on the crunch.

fuck south america
t. south american

Does Mesoamericanon lurk around here? We got an Aztec hint for AoM >>2359399

When are they nerfing Conqs to the ground, this is ridiculous

"Hurrr kill them before they can mass conq"

Fucking retards, "kill them faster" is never an argument, the issue is a batshit insane strong unit that can dodge all its counters is also crazy cheap af

>>2360141
Yup, the problem is that Spanish are "Conquistadors: the civ", thus they will never meaningfully change

>>2360134
>butterfly
That's Itzpapalotl

>>2360141
>"kill them faster" is never an argument
it is if the unit is hard to mass

>>2360146
I’m gonna make her Izplappedalot

>>2356280
>>2356290
>>2356470
They were so Germanised by the early 20th century that, after regaining independence, a bunch of Czech and Polish linguists had to reconstruct the language based on their literature and from people living in small villages.

They actually succeeded at what the Irish spectacularly failed.

>>2356290
I fucking hated both this and the one about Polish astronomers - typical Japanese propaganda garbage to make Europe look as backwards and violent as possible.

>>2356197
I can't find any information on fortified churches other than the Saxon ones in Transylvania.

>>2356275
>its like the Vlachs and Dracula
Vlad isn't even in top 3 most successful Vlach rulers. His cousin is the real GOAT (and would make for a decent campaign given the variety of civs that would be faced).

>>2359849
Ur still a beginner, just keep trying out different stuff and having fun. Nobody cares that you were 1150 elo.

>>2359849
I'm waiting for you down here at 450.

So I've been tinkering with the Wu lately and I like the fire archers troop but their playstyle is supposed to be aggressive since they capitalize on building infantry buildings to get resources. I was thinking of going back to the Romans and focus mainly on them. are they a good all-around civ ? Or do you guys have any other suggestions?

>Goths are meant to represent the Lombards among other historical civilizations
>They can get cannons

Lombard with a Bombard

>>2360246
Call me a retarded spleeter all you want, but Langobards should be the quintessential AoE civ on par with Teutons and Franks.
They're infinitely more interesting than most people realise, and their evolution over time is kinda neat and unique
On the other hand, the word "Goths" is ultimately meaningless pop culture drivel and effectively means fuck-all
t. scholar

>>2360146
>She is the mother of Mixcoatl and is particularly associated with the moth Rothschildia orizaba from the family Saturniidae.
I KEEP NOTICING I KEEP NOTICING I KEEP NOTICING

>>2360277
meds. now.

>>2360260
you already got italians and sicilians, we don't need MORE lombards in the game

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>>2360134
>Does Mesoamericanon lurk around here?
Well you don't need Mesoanon to tell you it's got absolutely fuck all to do with Aztecs.
It's a quick "Wikipedia Female Aztec diety > Ctrl+C Ctrl+V" and "Google Images: Itzpapalotl" hackjob.

>>2360298
Technically they also have Romans and Goths, both of which also inhabited the same peninsula; but none of these 4 have much to do with Longobards, they're completely different entities from an historical and cultural point of view
All I'm saying is that, if you were to spleet Italians like what happened with Indians, Longobards would be a prime choice; something like Venetians/Longobards/any commune/Papal States

>>2360330
>but none of these 4 have much to do with Longobards
bro your lombardy?

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>>2359799
Went on the AoE Online discord and it turns out there is a way to shut it off. Very simple to do as well and it does work.

NO EXCUSES NOW PLEASE PLAY WITH ME I'M SO ALONE

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Post your most antagonistic civ (you do like shit when playing as them, you do like shit when playing against them).
I hate these guys so fucking much.

(Ideally no new-ish civ that you've barely played)

>>2360471
Portuguese
Fucking hate playing AS them because they have so many choices, they can literally do almost everything perfectly and their tech tree is super open, So I always fumble because I try to tech into a bit of everything and spend more time deciding what to do than actually doing it
Fucking hate playing against them because people turtle up like crazy with them, hoping they get to Imp and instawin

>>2360515
>Fucking hate playing AS them because they have so many choices
But the only choice that matters is Organ Guns.
Like Spanish, always rush your UU. Allways rush Organ Guns.

>>2360459
>>2360459
Holy SHIT brother I am so happy this exists. Thank you so much, I'll finally be able to finish all those quests!

>>2360459
Sadly this did not work, doesn't seem like just adding a user.cfg overrides the default values, and the game doesn't let me open it if I change the game.cfg...

>>2360330
I like the papal state idea. A monk civ with swiss halberdier UU to rival teutons in european monk warfare

>>2360151
conqs are not hard to mass, that's the issue

Guys what if: age if mythology 2 that takes place in the middle ages and you can summon all kinds of saints and dogmen in armour and cats copying codexes

>>2360647
It should be cavemen + dinosaurs instead.

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>>2360658
Was already made.

It's champiover

>>2360729
>When you were too poor for Empire Earth
Now I have the theme playing in my head, good job.

*uses the starting scout to hit your house once*

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>>2360810

Champi nerf wasnt enough, decided to come back to Arabia and people are still doing it, being slightly delayed did not change much.

>>2360848
>Champi nerf wasnt enough
This general also thinks archers are still OP so idk if I believe you.

>every arena game is suspiciously FC into forward castle
>every megarandom game is suspiciously mongol pickers
>every nomad (of any kind) game is suspiciously spanish pickers
>every atacama/haboob/black forest game is suspiciously lamers (usually goths)
>"doooood why are you such an arabiabot! i like to branch out yknoh, play other maps, have some diversity! arabia is so boring! every game is the same! it's always either MMA rush, or scout rush, or archer rush, or tower rush, or drush+FC, or regular FC, or FC into UU, or FC into knights, or siege push, or monk rush, or ecomaxxing, or walling, or low eco + heavy army, or extended feudal, or fast imp, or..."

>>2360146
>>2360134
>>2360322
>>2360186
>>2360277
see
>>2360858

>>2360854
>Every game is the same
>It's either every possible strategy you can do early or every possible strategy you can do late

>>2360850
Archers ARE OP tho

>>2360810
That's it, I will now exterminate your people.

>>2360602
Damn. I'll double check.

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A unit that throws AoE3 torches at buildings.

Thinking about dealing as much damage as swordsmen, maybe less, but with 3 range when targeting buildings. Only superior when at critical mass. Better at destroying palisades than swordsmen even with only a few since they can focus fire targets with small frontage.

Otherwise is a swordsman expy. Maaaybe a soft counter to archers due to archer armor.

Would such a unit be a bad idea?

Just replayed Tours, it's actually quite fun, probably the best of the original battles of the conquerors

>>2360961
if its a unique unit then congrats you made a worse fire archer.

>>2360961
Congratulations, you invented tarkan with range.

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>>2360197
Either due to a lack of sources in English or because the most common results when searching for "church walls" is about the painted exteriors.
A lot ot them where also rebuilt in the 17th-19th century, like pic related (Golia, Iasi, Moldavia).

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>>2361081
>>2360197
Sucevita (Moldavia again)

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>>2361081
>>2361082
Neamt
>>2360197
A lot of these are annoying to find btw because online photos either focus on the church itself and barely feature the surrounding walls or they are misattributed, but I grew up in that area and went to a lot of them on school trips and they usually feature small but thick stone walls, some big towers and all of the buildings that constitute the monastery (church, dormitory etc.) in the inner courtyard which a lot of the time is quite large (some of them are a couple of football fields put toghether large).
It's also a bit dubious exactly which one is period appropriate or not because as I said sometimes new structures were added later on during 17th-19th or straight up rebuilt since most if not all of them have always been in use since first built, including today.

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>>2361081
>>2361082
>>2361086
Last one for now, Cetatuia (Moldavia again because I'm more familiar with it).
As to why I mention these as a reason for fortified churches specifically, it's because there aren't really any real fortifications otherwise, apart from what were the "princely seats" I guess, very few castles and most towns/ cities either had wooden or no walls otherwise, while the stone walls surround just the monasteries themselves (which were built on hills around the historical towns/ cities typically, not as part of them).
Some have been "consumed" by urban expansion but to reach others you still have to go into the woods for a bit and climb steep hills to reach.

>>2355287
Age of Mudhuts

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>mfw pro players retreat 15 knights because they saw one monk (without army)

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>>2360330
>Papal States
Never ever with FE, they would rather add somalians or more brown shit.

>>2361235
The civ bonuses will never happen.

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here's your wonder, mesobros

i wasnt around back in the conquerors days so idk how they were on release, but this whole mess has made me appreciate eagles a lot more balance wise, i dont think they could've made a better unit for those without stables

>>2361235
>Monks cannot convert or pick up relics during Feudal Age
weak and gay, why? Just plop a scout next to relics, a monk is still 100 gold that will slow down castle age considerably
>Spearman line available one age earlier
needless
>Caroccio
spanish mounted monk but faster? I'd stick with just swiss guards but make them a spear/swordsman hybrid in terms of damage bonuses and reductions

>>2361235
Italians are already in the game

>>2361082
LOVE these painted walls, absolutely amazing.

>>2361235
Should have a proto-monk unit that just heals and automaticaly upgrades like Camel Scouts
Plus gaining a free monk on building Monasteries.

>>2360870
I was just being dumb, putting stuff in the wrong folder. It works now.
Game is finally playable, I can't believe it. I'm so happy.

>>2361387
>the famous papal pavise crossbowmen and the famous papal condottieri

>>2361400
civs are not nations or kingdoms
civs are civilizations = ethnicities, cultures
the people of the papal states were latins = italians
the exact same people as the genoese were
the italians civ already covers them completely

>the people who bitched about being able to kill sheep/deer/boar with the TC have been completely silent for months
almost as if they realised its either better for the game or unimportant, but we gotta coooooomplain!

>Shitter is excited his fuckup is basic gameplay now.

lol bet you didnt even remember this was a thing until i reminded you

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>>2361391
i am not a big church fan but they are pretty neat, precisely why I want the Voronet monastery as the Vlach wonder
idk if it's true or not but I've been told the blue paint used for the background layer is unique and we still don't know how the paint was made and it has a bunch of ancient figures like Plato depicted, not just Christian saints
might be just marketing bs though, but still I guess this literal UNESCO heritage site isn't as impressive as a fictional waterfall with a straw hut on it 11

>>2361294
not accurate
put it on a hill

>>2361415
>civs are not nations or kingdoms
*raughs in three chinkdoms*

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not AoE but what do we think of the new AoMythology goddess?

>>2361561
She just stole my heart.


No literally there's an obsidian blade in my chest and she's taking a fucking bit...blargh.

>>2361561
AoM is part of the AoE franchise and is probably the second-most popular entry on 4chan, why would it be excluded?

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All the towers in da world

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Daily reminder that Teuton pickers are not humans and you should definely abuse any Teuton picker you see

>>2361576
good morning

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>>2361457
They're Arabized Greeks who adopted some customs of their Norman and Spaniard masters, totally different than the Lombards. Medieval Sicily's wealth during the matched that of the polentone oligarchs, which is why the Hauteville, Hohenstaufen, and Barcelonès fought so hard to maintain them, against other Imperial, Papal, French, and Islamic, opposition, much more often to their credit and Sicily's advantages.
They are also used to catchall the Normans, just like how the Burgundians are the Low Countries

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>>2361583
Mornin' anon

>>2361587
>totally different than the Lombards
well, not totally
there was some lombard influence in sicily as well
crossroads of the mediterranean and all that
but italians is a much better fit for lombards for obvious reasons

>>2361561
Sorry guys, got baited by a jeet. Seems like this is AI (Even tho the actual art is still promising, she seems to have big booba)

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How is possible that I was fucking asses in 1k1 thinking that I was going to get to 1k2 soon and then all of the sudden seems like fucking everyone in 1k became hera, specially late game. They just turtle, get imp at minute 35 and it's gg. I was a complete mess playing because didn't have muscular memory yet and manage to reach that, now that I feel a lot more comfortable overall with the game I can't win consecutively in 10++

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I'm getting humilliated by guys with half my apm, am I really that low iq?

>>2361590
Lombards were Germanic, not Latin. Italians don't represent them, Goths or Teutons or even Franks do.

>>2356197
That team bonus would be so busted

>>2361620
Yeah, in hindsight I was trying to mirror other similar team bonuses which was a mistake because ranged units have to be treated a bit differently. Maybe just +1 (this might still be strong but not as oppressive).
My initial idea was to make tributes free but it sounded useless in 1v1 and not that good in team games either.
Anyway, the whole thing is a bit outdated, I kept working on it but will post everything once I'm done with Serbs and Dalmatians (which are meant to be a mix of the Venetian colonies in the Balkans, Ragusans, Albanians, Croatians, Bosnians, etc.).
I did come up with an idea to have the Hajduk as a regional replacement for HC but I'm struggling a bit to balance it (my idea was for them to be faster but with less damage).

>>2361596
Stop obsessing over elo

>>2361597
Stop obsessing over apm

>>2361600
I have bad news about what happened to the Latins post-Alaric.

>>2361597
yes
also, do you mostly play ranged units? that will inherently demand more apm

>random jeet civ vs Huns
>spend the entire game chasing his CA all over the place with my own ele archers
>only with Imp, all blacksmith techs and trebs can I actually inflict any damage to his base
Granted, the guy was higher ELO than me (16xx) but I spent 40 minutes losing my goddamn mind at all the random attack alerts all over my eco
I really should take the towerpill more often, people still underestimate bodkin guard towers

>>2362095
You're an Indian civ, use your camels to chase down CAs

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>>2362116
More specifically I was Dravidians, and non-Bloodline camels rarely work out against anyone remotely competent
Skirms kinda help in early castle but once mangos were out, no redemption really fucked me over and I just went full proooh
Ele archers are not bad units per se, they're insanely good against basically everything for their cost, but holy FUCK are they slow

i know im a year late but this hei huang cav is basically a cheaper, better knight in every aspect except dealing with pikes?

>>2362137
iirc they're better vs longswords and lightcav too, but harder countered by pikes and camels

>>2361596
>>2361597
These players fall apart under heavy pressure, just make houses and farms behind the pressure so you aren't harming your timings.
>>2362095
>>2362117
Make elite skirm and mangonels, you can probably get ballistics before he has his siege because cav archers cost a lot of wood and gold, change your plans if you scout an early workshop

>>2362137
Feels worse in every way to me plus they are really slow

>>2361596
Because you played 1400s elo players. I was also in your situation once, only needed 2 wins to break 1200 for the first time and got yeeted all the way to high 900s. The same happens to 1400 elo players but they get yeeted to high 1100s and play unaware players like you.
I'm currently, again, only 2 wins away from finally breaking 1200. I wish you luck, 1100s bro, and wish me luck too.

>>2362150
Holy cope

>>2362117
>>2362095
requesting TheJeetMaster assistance

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I come bearing forbidden knowledge: Celt towers are actually absolutely top tier in terms of damage output. Especially against low armor targets like archers but even against high armor raiding units like FU hussars or paladins Celt keeps do 15+% more DPS than generic FU keeps.

Of course you pay for it by having one less range but if you're filling your eco with them as defense or supporting a slow push that doesn't really matter. They still outrange everything that isn't siege.

>>2362262
Delet this

>>2362262
Hey spirit of the law, guys here.

>>2362200
No, thats literally how SBMM works. It's a trash system, but I tolerate it in aoe2 because I play almost exclusively 1v1.

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Enough with the turtle ship oars

>>2361232
A monk converting a knight is a loss that can be avoided if you support your knights with some archers

>>2362395
Archers and knights, thats the solution to everything in this game

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Sometimes it do be like that

why did ghostmaster even started posting caps and why did people start giving him attention like i'm doing right now?

>>2362527
>why did ghostmaster even started posting caps
Because I bloody feel like it.

>>2362527
>Why did someone start posting pictures of themselves playing the game?
Gee idk

>>2362262
this is obvious if you consider that faster attack speed is what makes japanese infantry so good

>>2362578
and you never hear anyone talk about it

>>2362579
that’s because celts have better options

>>2362262
Try Georgian towers, they are leagues above any other civs towers. A small number of them can just delete enemy units.

>>2362262
>Top tier
>Less than half as strong as Japanese towers
If your stuck defending raids instead of pushing the enemy base with a halb and siege deathball you are doing something incorrectly

>>2362395
That is one of the most expensive combinations in the game, its much easier to just make a few light cav to snipe the monks

Vipur could meet hera in the quarter finals, thoughts?

Anyone got any good 1v1 tower rush guides that aren't made by sub 2k players?

Youtube search is only showing vids made by noobs and vids on how to defend tower rushes.

>>2362527
because he's essentially a /vst/ tripfag. Why would he announce who he is like he does on an anonymous discussion website? Because he's an attention whore and deserves to get bullied for it.
Him being a jeet is just icing on the cake

>>2362665
The Japanese and Donjon data on the graph assume all three of their arrows hit every time, which doesn't happen in realistic scenarios. So they're a bit worse than shown.

>>2362694
He'll be taken out by Winchester, don't you worry

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>>2362694
Vipurr got lucky he got the shitter group in TTL, thanks to T90's retarded decision to not do any sneeding
Put him in any other group and watch him get fucking bodied

I'm the newfag from a few days ago. I'm trying to beat Hard Cpu one vs one , I can beat moderate pretty easily (I can't beat 2 moderate cpus though). I don't know how to manage my army do you guys have any tips? By the time I create some troops I get swarmed by an army of enemies.

>>2362834
>have hotkeys for production buildings
>have hotkeys for making units (QWE are more than enough)
>start making army in feudal so you don't get caught with your pants down
>ALWAYS make vills
Other than that, don't sweat it

>>2362834
I guarantee the problem is not army management but macro. Moderate AI streams troops into your base almost non-stop after hitting feudal, it only gets worse at higher difficulties. If you forget to make villagers for economy and troops for army reinforcement, you will be overwhelmed. You are not allowed to forget.

>>2362796
Running and Repard, Dios mio

>>2362137
They need bloodlines so Shu hei guang are worse than knights. They also don't get a Paladin upgrade
>>2362148
>really slow
they have the exact same speed

>>2362527
I feel bad seeing him posting here constantly looking for validation.

well i tried to main aztecs for a bit to get the hang of meso but it's just impossible
if the enemy is playing cavalry it's pretty manageable because monks can deal with heavy cav and eagles can deal with lightcav/CA/archers, but if the enemy plays militia line + archers its pretty much impossible to win

>>2356470
The word for Bohemia is "Čechy" in the Czech language, as opposed to the Morava/Moravia or Slezsko/Silesia regions. You're an idiot.

>>2363115
>Militia line + archers
Not a problem for Aztecs, mangonels alone will deal with it, it is expensive to tech into both of those units and by the time he has you should have a castle and can make jag + skirm

>>2363115
One word: Aztec monk units, make em

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>>2356470
>Calling them Czechs instead of Bohemians is a modern ethnonymic development
Please don't talk about shit you know absolutely fuck all about, anon. We've got AI for that.

>>2363291
>Monks vs archers
>>2363275
>Mangonels vs swordsmen

Low elos aren't afraid to throw out their units, they'll just rush the mangonels down and snipe the monks while fearing nothing.
I'd say scorpion mass + your own swords as aztecs if that's what you're up against.

Bohemians should've gotten the teuton/goth/viking architecture set instead of slavic. What were they thinking...

>>2363295
Aztecs dont get heavy scorps. I actually learned that mid game once when I massed them in castle, hit imperial, and realised that I was stuck with a forever castle age army.

>>2363312
Aw shit, it's true, I forgot about that.
At that point, just raid them with Eagles instead.

>>2363295
If he is getting upgrades for his archers his swordsmen are going to be basically naked and die to tcs like flies, and losing all your units for one mangonel is never a good trade

>>2363171
>>2363293
It's because I was talking about the English ethnonym for them. I had first misinterpreted >>2356280 as not understanding between Czechs and Bohemians (in game) as its the archaic naming form
The Anglos rarely called them Czechs until the 20th century: there are records of Czechs coming to America and being noted as Bohemians from Bohemia
t. my Springtime of Nations ancestors' immigration papers

>>2363298
no, they shouldn't, because the slav set looks better

>>2363298
they were correctly thinking bohemians have slavic architecture, have you even been to prague? Or are you just armchair historian-ing?

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>>2363546
Real life Bohemia really doesn't look slavic. Pure Germanic architecture.
Plus, we already have
>Slavs
>Poles
>Lithuanians
>Magyars
>Bulgarians
using this set, while Germanic is just for

>Teutons
>Goths
>Vikings
>Huns (should be changed to the Thracian set instead)

So bringing Bohemians over would at least balance things out a bit.

>>2363682
>Bohemians get CE set
>Cumans get EE set
>Persians get CA set
>Bulgarians, Byzantines, Georgians and Armenians get a new set

>>2363699
Yes please, for the love of god we need a new set for the orthodoxes.

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>>2363682
>posts slavic architecture
>claims it's pure germanic architecture
pic rel is cracow old town, is that pure germanic architecture too?

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>>2363707
In the medieval time period, Prague was a city built by Germans by a Luxembourgish Emperor. The same can be said for most Hungarian cities
It would closer to Nuremberg, if not for post-war gommunism reconstruction

>>2363682
Huns will get Scythian architecture in the next Chronicles release. Trust the plan.

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>>2363707
>Czechia
>Slavic architecture
Lol no
At least that's not what it looks like in AoE2

>>2363880
>he thinks slavic = russoid
lmaoing at your worthless delusional vatnigger worldview