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>>2369715
damn, someone made a thread with handcannoneer in the OP. i can finally post this, but the question still remains: when will they buff handcannoneers?

>>2369723
>replying to yourself
new low, dude

>>2369737
nah, i always have my handcannoneer picture named, and i never refer to the handcannoneer as cannoneer.

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>*changes your clothes' colour*

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Classic graphics and sounds were better before DE. This is a fact.

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So now that the dust has kind of settled, which Champi civ has the best:
>Champi
>Slinger
>Castle UU
>Secondary UU
>Settlement
>Castle UT
>Imperial UT
>Castle design
>Wonder

>>2369983
Incas have the best Champi hands down
I like Tupi slingers the best
Kamayuk still best Castle UU
Temple Guards are the most fun 2nd UU
Tupi settlements are best because of garison but Mapuche can be fun to quickly raise an army with
Tbh i dont even remember their techs but Poison is obviously the best imp one
Inca castle still the best
No idea about any wonder tho

>>2369846
Building graphics are equivalent but unit animations are undoubtly better in the original.
>Halberdiers would slice instead of one-handed thrust
>Huskarls would do a full body upwards swing
>Longswords would do some funny thrusts
>Camels would do some cool backhand swings
>Vills would do stuff with more emphasis, females were more delicate

Biggest downgrade was still on AoE1 / RoR units. Those are all fucked.

>>2369983
who cares they're all retarded dogshit

>>2370013
I care

>>2369715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_a08312fY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_a08312fY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_a08312fY

castle age parthian tactics feels like such a random bonus for persians, it's not like they have good CA, and the res of the upgrade is prob not worth it in castle age

Londinium is going to be a massive flop in terms of viewers and revenue
never seen a S+ tournament with so little hype mere days before it happens

>>2370205
yeah, persians need some stuff shuffled around

When are these faggot devs going to make the game properly and stop fucking around with multiplayerslop

>>2370211
Nobody cares about Hera winning. He's unlikeable, his gameplay is boring.

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>>2370205
>>2370231
Persians could lose every single bonus and UT and UU except for their eco one and they would still be a top tier civ, funnily enough
So stuff like Caravanserai and trashbows and Parthian in CA are just bonuses that add flavour for campaignchads and sub 1k bros

>>2370326
They should also have Central Asian architecture

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>spirit of the law saying the people dropping negative reviews on the last chieftains because the campaigns are "too hard" are fucking retards who need to shut the fuck up and lower the difficulty
holy TRVKE

>>2370288
Rank the londinium players from most fun to watch gameplauy to least. I'm curious what you mean.

>>2370288
He's by far the most charismatic of the pros, which leads to more people cheering for him, which leads to more wins out of him absorbing the power of friendship.

>>2370211
Can't blame viewers since TTL was such a fun tourney (up until when Hera won)
It had some great maps + Empire Wars is kinda boring to watch.

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>>2370344
Funny as hell how CUMANS out of all civs got the actual PERSIAN architecture while IRL their "cities" looked like pic related.

>>2370211
Hera has never been weaker than he is right now, so odds of kino are decent

>>2370326
Isn't that just because docks and TC bonus make them oppressive on nomad? I don't see them often off that map. How broken would trashbows be if they got bracer in exchange for losing parthian?
>>2370344
yes please, I love Cuman architecture but dislike playing them.

>>2370460
idk about weaker but larry could have beaten him in TTL. To truly nerf hera we need to take away hussar from 3/4 the civs that have it so you can target ban hussar civs against him. Way too many cav/pala/hussar/bloodlines available in general.

>>2370477
No, faster working TCs make them universally good on any map, no matter what.
https://aoe2ct.github.io/kotd6-stats/
They were the most played civ in KotD6 for example, specifically because nobody wants to target ban them, and picking them is generally always a good idea; in my head, they're basically like Chinese except a way worse lategame but a lot less likely to get banned/die from laming
>bracer instead of parthian
That would be extremely stupid, would make them way too good. Savar is meant to cover their shitty skirm line and trashbow already has some (situational) uses, nothing needs to be changed about Persians outside of architecture

>>2370440
how was liereyy completely raping his way to the final in any way entertaining?

>>2370487
>nothing needs to be changed about Persians outside of architecture
Agree, they're perfect as they are, gameplay wise.

>>2369715
I liked the 3 part a lot. Had a DVD with all three parts, played it for years. My favs were Turkey and Japan. They were unique but at the same time understandable. Never managed to master Aztecs. They looked cool but playing without artillery felt kinda off. Didn't play DE, it looks gay.

>>2370442
Nomad architecture for Cumans, Huns, Khitans, Mongols, and Tatars soon. Trust the plan (aka. buy the dlcs)

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>>2370519
No, it'll be
>Eastern Steppe
Mongols, Khitan, Liao, Tanguts, Tibetans
>Western Steppe
Cumans, Huns, Khazars (Jews are giving MS more money)
>Central Asia
Tartars, Persians
Bonus
>Han architecture
Chinese, Wei, Shu, Sun

>>2370535
By Liao I meant Jurchens, Khitans are getting Tangutspleet

Game has become stale, too much focus on mainstream white cultures. Without diversity, the game is stale and most of the so-called "wonders" are just monuments to white mediocrity.
I have been petitioning the devs to add strong African empires such as the San people who made enormous leaps for humanity in their time, but instead they focus on white adjacent garbage.

>>2370519
I'll buy euro, japanese and arabian dlcs, not else.

>>2370555
your bait is like 4 years out of date, we haven't gotten a white civ since 2022.

>>2370535
Only if that correlates with all these civs getting Pastures and the building itself being nerfed to be identical to farms.

ranged units are too weak in aoe compared to their power in history

>>2370439
>charismatic
Is that what passes for charismatic these days? I hate the internet.

>>2370634
Have you seen the other pros stream? Viper, Daut, Tatoh... they all suck compared to Hera in terms of entertainment. Not that Hera is GOOD per se, but he's just better.

>>2370624
Done. Only Khitans can return AT the pastures, the rest have to walk to a mill/TC

Why do people get so mad over civ picking? Like if both players civ pick both players get a good civ but if you random one player gets a better civ. Also you can random into civs that are difficult to play without a lot of experience with that civ like gurjarahs, mayans or chinese.

>>2370627
this is not a historically accurate game, it has the 3K and Chieftains dlcs after all.

>>2370742
normies have been tricked by pros into thinking random on ladder is the standard when it's just the pros staying in practice/having fun. Normies are also dogshit at adapting, so if they pick franks and you get byzantines their brain breaks.

>>2370627
Melee was the name of the game until gunpowder was able to effectively replace the pike, and even then it wasn't phased out
Ranged weapons helped many battles (English, Czechs, etc) but the melee was still the deciding factor of those battles

>>2370753
The last Melee cavalry charge in history was literally at the end of World War 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Schoenfeld

What civ is the closest to a jewish civ in this game?

>>2370778
whichever civ is your favorite, you kike

>>2370778
Poles

>>2370778
ironically saracens

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At this very moment, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Jr0Y7kCgA started playing
Darkening the sun with a gorillon javelins and converting anything that does not drop dead from it
Atlat aztec skirms rule

>>2370624
>identical to farms
But what's the point then? I like the idea of a variation that is more food in the long run at the cost of a higher upfront investment (wood cost and vil cost)
Hell, now that I think about it what about
>unique farm alternative: half the gather rate of farms but doesn't need to be reseeded
for some other future civ or something I dunno

>>2370806
Recently been doing full aztec monk play on maps where FC power unit is the norm (nomad etc) and it's so much fun. I keep forgetting atlatl is a thing I should add full trash support for it too.

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>>2370825
Aztec atlat skirms are very fucking nasty and will kill soft counters in enough numbers, you still need monks and some sort of frontline, preferably low on gold like champs or jags.
Sadfy I'm not really a Monk rush kind of guy, I only use them in imperial (mostly due Theocracy, cannot be arsed to individually micro 6 or more monks at the same time)

Funny enough, Muisca monks and UU has a similar vibe to this, except Muisca UU lacks the range of aztec Atlat skirms, but make that up by having a very nasty punch

>>2370826
Best part about mass monks is you don't even need to be a micro god for them to work. When an enemy sees a group of monks and hears even just a few conversions starting they usually freak the fuck out on instinct and refuse to engage (or do so very poorly). Monks are as much a deterrence as they are a real threat.

As for actual monk micro tips, I usually keep them all in one control group. When an enemy group approaches I first task them all on one unit, then ctrl-click one or more of the monk portraits to drop them out of the selection and click another target. With <10 monks you can easily get them each converting a different target in just a few seconds. With huge monk masses I just do a lot of small box selections or something. You also only need to convert half of the enemy group for it to be a decisively victorious battle, so perfect micro isn't even super important.

>>2370826
>TheJeetmaster dragging his team down once again
Why do you always have the lowest score on your team?

>>2370742
Why the fuck would you want to play the same fucking civs every game? Boy I sure do love Spanish mirror, Turks mirror. I miss Hun Wars. Oh look another X mirror matchup on Arabia, just what I wanted to play today!

>>2370855
Have you considered that people maybe want to play as their home country?

>>2370869
Go make a custom lobby if you want to larp.

>nooo people should play how I want
I'm not going to play your third world civs :)

>>2370758
And there was a successful bayonet charge in Afghanistan.
That doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of pre-modern battles were decided by melee combat, anon.

Any age4 bros here? I can't play my new job takes too much time.

>>2370758
Which means we can still use the Genie engine for Age of Empires V!

How do you even cope with your civ having an ugly castle?

>>2371023
By modding it. I've given the Roman castle to the Italians and the Briton castle to the Burgundians because I couldn't stand looking at their default ones. Also replaced western European Keep with the Tower of Flies model.

>>2371023
My favorite civs have great looking castles, I can't relate.

>>2371142
oh you main vietnamnese and bohemians?

>>2371144
Those look great but I like playing burmese, bulgarians, malay, turk, ethiopians and koreans.

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I was looking foward on how an opening between 2 meso civs would play it, but in the end I had to fend off an autistic trush instead of facing something actually intresting
Once again, atlat skirms, monks and pure attrition warfare wins the day

>>2371152
Skirms are the best unit in the game. They should get nerfed.

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>>2371162
>They should get nerfed
Why tho?
I mean in the early game, yes I get where you come from, but in late game, nah mate that aint it
Arbalests are still incredibly oppressive imho

Tomorrow Hera loses...surely

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>>2371186
>t.

>berber and poles dark age villager bonus nerfed cuz pro players lost to a meme strat
>market nerfed because pro players lost to a meme strat
>siege tower nerfed cuz pro players lost to a meme strat
What's next? petards nerfed? persian tc nerfed?

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I’m not taking my force pick off. I’m force pick o’toole.

>>2371284
to be fair, siege towers got buffed like 5 times to absurd degrees before pros finally started using them as APCs, which was terrible and not intended.

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>>2369983
>Champi
Toss-up between Muisca & Inca: Muisca don't have Blast Furnace & Arson, which sucks ass, but Herbalism makes them so damn fun while Inca are cheap and get everything PLUS extra armour
>Slinger
Same as before, though Inca have an edge because the minimum range removal means they don't scatter when the infantry can touch them, though Muisca are probably better in trash wars due to spammability
>Castle UU
Muisca. Guecha Warriors are fun and what Rattan Archers should've been
>Secondary UU
Bolas Riders are great, just because of their speed and accuracy. I don't even give a fuck about the slow-down attack, Bolas are just excellent raiders
>Settlement
Tupi, bar none. Mapuche are good to add a bit of extra firepower, but Villager survival is crucial
>Castle UT
Muisca. I'm not an archerfag but it's about damn time a civ had a speed bonus for them
>Imperial UT
Mapuche is fun
>Castle design
none lmao
>Wonder
Probably Muisca because it's a proper temple instead of a house on some mountain

>>2371327
>Guecha Warriors are fun and what Rattan Archers should've been
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

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>>2369983
>Champi
Muisca, fast and very armored meatshield, can use them as pseudo cavalry
>Slinger
Dont care for those
>Castle UU
Muisca UU, it sheer damage output fucks up cavalry really good
>Secondary UU
None really
>Settlement
I only like the Muisca one due the healing aura, otherwise I dont like settlements, it's wood cost is prohbitive, I'd rather have ox carts or regular drop off buildings
>Castle UT
Muisca Herbalism, haha champis goes vroom vroom
>Imperial UT
Tupi poison damage
>Castle design
Muisca or Inca
>Wonder
None

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IT'S HERE
>Matches
Round 1
Today
>Sebastion vs. TheViper
>MBL vs. Mr.Yo
>Lierrey vs. ACCM
>Hera vs. Hearttt
>Streams
https://www.twitch.tv/redbull
https://www.twitch.tv/jordan_aoe
https://www.twitch.tv/ornlu_aoe
https://www.twitch.tv/membtv
https://www.twitch.tv/t90official

>technical issues for 19 minutes
This is the last Redbull.

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AoE3 bros is it our time?

>>2367282
The trick with leaving garrison and entering again only to be limited by keystroke/APM defines as exploit. There should be cooldown to prevent from such juggling.
As for the rest of accusations, I rest my case.

>>2371459
viper gets to be humiliated again by seb in the very first round

>>2371459
Why are they playing BO5 in group stage instead of playing all 5?

>>2371459
Ornlu and TWest duo cast for peak comfy autism

>>2371459
>Viper farming score with SO for 40 minutes

>>2371486
OH NO NO NO

noob here, i want to get into this game, which build order should i practice as mongols? i looked up online guides and they were kind of hard to understand as a newbie

>>2371518
You should play something like Byzantines or Magyars who have no eco bonus and practice a standard 18-19 pop scout rush or archer rush build order.

>>2371519
oh sounds nice, i just picked mongols because they're popular in culture

I have not seen someone get this buckbroken by mangonels since my last ranked game holy shit

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>>2371486

based wallGOD

Viper-Bros?

Viper-Bros!

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>>2371559
Yes?

>>2371486
hey anon where are ya? Anon are ya still here, cunt?

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I don't get it, why does MBL (who landed on Yo's island as soon as the game started, for context) retreat away from the tower with the m@a? I'm fairly sure the right side vills are not in range of the TC

Finally some chaotic round.

>>2371582
Pros are extremely stupid using early MAAs, they'd rather lose them running away than lose them dealing damage to buildings.

>>2371486
>viper gets to be humiliated again by seb in the very first round
Give me back my money, asshole

How do you rate casters /aoeg/?

ACCM TIME

>larry still banning all DLC civs
KING

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>>2371618

Loch Ness is such a dogshit map goddamn

>>2371632
I like it, just because ACCM plays on after he's lost doesn't mean the map is bad.

>>2371617
nvm i wanna cry

That was a SAD sweep. I feel bad for ACCM. Completely outclassed...

Is the new aoe4 Asian dlc worth it?
I only have the uhhhh the Byzantium one

>Memb Dave cast
Kino
Proper kino

>Crossbows counter Skirms

>>2371709
more like
>skirmtard dives repeatedly trying to kill Bengali monks with fucking skirms

>>2371694
Is it me or has membs accent gotten much easier to understand?

>>2371764
it's not just you he's been practicing.
a year or two ago he was entirely impossible to comprehend.

>>2371284
I don't want villager wars on arabia, that is cancer
The market was always too strong, now players have to build actual economy
Siege Tower is fine, fire lancer was the problem
>>2371327
>Toss-up between Muisca & Inca: Muisca don't have Blast Furnace & Arson, which sucks ass, but Herbalism makes them so damn fun while Inca are cheap and get everything PLUS extra armour
A shame mapuche lacks a lot of barracks techs, I would say Tupi has some stuff going for their champis as well, and theoretically food + gold discounts are better than food discounts,
>>2371582
You take a bunch of damage going towards the tower and you are going to have to retreat as soon as the first archer is out, suiciding army underneath a tower is very noob.
>>2371610
Except it really is a bad idea because 1 villager repairing completely negates all that damage, it would be a better idea to camp around his own tower and keep it up

>>2371823
>You take a bunch of damage going towards the tower
That's not what happened
>he lands with m@a and vills and immediately starts building a tower
>mbl reacts with some quickwalls (you can see the half-destroyed palisade) to wall out the m@as who were literally hugging the gold pile
>eventually mbl starts towering
>Yo immediately leaves
I don't have the replay at hand, but I doubt it was an optimal play, honestly

>>2371823
1 villager repairing is spending resources.
1 maa walking around taking arrows means your resources thrown in the trash.

>>2371764
>Is it me or has membs accent gotten much easier to understand
Pretty sure Redbull is using AI. They have the money

what match had handcannoneers? im always at work during events, so can never watch live

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i can't do it bros, every time i want to tryhard in this game i just keep thinking why bother when i can also tryhard in league, also clickity click game but more popular and looks better

>>2371891
MBL vs Yo iirc
armenians vs dravidians, handcanoneers won vs champions

>>2371939
Winning in Age feels way better than winning in league. Holy fuck I've never played a game as unrewarding as SR in League.

>>2371486
another group stage exit for seb?

>>2371522
Playing generic civ and THEN swapping to civ with strong eco bonus will let you appreciate the eco bonus, whatever it is. Better for building foundation imo.

>>2371966
I'm afraid this might be the case.
Today's schedule:
> Hera vs MbL
> TheViper vs ACCM
> Yo vs Hearttt
> Liereyy vs Sebastian
Yo vs Hearttt is the only one which is up in the air.

>>2371519
Byzantines are bad for beginners. The lack of eco bonus puts you at a complete development disadvantage especially as a beginner. You'll only be fighting uphill.

>>2371518
Mongols are good, but at low elo, Bulgarians are the strongest. MAA rush as Bulgarians is OP because 95% of low elo players don't know how to counter it.

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>>2371518
here is a build order from hera's strategy guide

>>2372040
Hello, please provide link, for I am too poor for patron. Thanks you sar

What a fucking mess / kino round.

Who's S-tier now Hera?

>>2372098
Spoken too soon.
I hope MBL wins the next game though, that'd be great.

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reminder

>>2372117
he got slapped hard by larry last night unfortunately

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>>2372117

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Yue Fei campaign + Jin Dynasty for Age4
https://youtu.be/7CW5mLD1T9g

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>>2372151
>4
no, I am not happy they get actual medieval China while 2 is stuck with time displaced three kingdoms heroslop

Londinium thread is up at /v/ >>>/v/736227413

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>>2372155
That just means Age2'll get An Lushan instead

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>>2372157
could be good but I will only forgive FE if the siege of Suiyang is one of the scenarios and it lets you delete villagers for extra food

>More chinkslop
Add another chink dynasty civilization for AoE I while you're at it.

>>2372155
age4 already had medieval china

That was the april fools? God soifags buckbroke this site definitively.

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>>2372165
I already thought of a good flow
>1 - 755, Tibetan Civil War/the Tang frontier
Regular base mission, 3 v all - Fighting different factions with allied Yang Guozhong and An Lushan, latter of whom rebels as the scenario ends
>2 - 756, Flight of the Emperor
Limited army escape mission - Emperor Xuanzong of Tang flees from Chang'an to Sichuan. Can end or involve the incident at Mawei Inn agianst the Yang family and the Tibetans. Xuanzong abdicates and Suzong takes up the throne
>3 - 757, Siege of Suiyang
Timed defense mission - An Lushan declares himself Emperor of Yan but is killed by his son, An Qingxu, who wants to head south of the Huai River.
limited number of farms, can sacrifice villagers to produce food. Decisive Tang Strategic Victory
>4 - 757/758, Resurgent Tang
Regular base mission with allies - In the meanwhile, Suzong, with Uyghur and Arab allies to recapture Chang'an and Luoyang, with flavor for the Nestorian Christians and Buddhists joining the fight, too. The cities would be independent for each other, due to the chaos following Lushan's death
>5 - 758, Siege of Yecheng
Regular base mission with some diplomatic options - An Qingxu has had to retreat, but has some local generals nearby, who can be convinced to join the Tang via different objectives. However, one general Shi Shiming, holds in reserve, only advancing when An Qingxu is defeated in Yecheng (the halfway point of the scenario). The player can defeat the army, but the battle is inconclusive historically
>6 - 761/762, Prince of Yan
Regular base mission, 1 v all - Shiming replaces Qingxu as Prince of Yan and has made advances against the Tang, but is killed by his son, Shi Chaoyi, which implodes the Yan. Fight the different Yan forces, retaking Luoyang for the second time and then other northern cities. Post-mission, Emperor Suzong dies to his sickness in 762 and so the new Empeor Daizong sees the capture of Shi Chaoyi in 763, finally ending the rebellion

>>2372201
i actually missed it, what was it?

damn hera vs mbl game 3 was nuts

>>2372082
https://files.catbox.moe/aw0e9n.pdf

>>2372357
Based.

/ourguy/ has to beat heartt or he is out and we don't get anymore fun games

>>2372357
Don't mind me just pirating this spreadsheet

>>2372357
This is some amazing content. Thank you anon.

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>>2372365
>>2372367
>>2372368
I can also share some of his video guides if anyone needs one

>>2372151
all the comments online seem pretty negative but this might actually be the first aoe4 DLC that actually looks appealing to me
maybe the age 4 community is just overwhelmingly ranked players or something, but the premise of the campaign seems cool

>>2372369
where's the fast hand cannon spreadsheet?

>>2372372
it got lost somewhere in 900 elo

>>2372372
Last page Turks Fast Imperialo Castille the opponent into the corner like a rat with bombard cannons.
Disclaimer: Do not try this on Arabia, ELO will not be refunded

>>2372151
>More chink shit
Will be sure to leave a sinophobic comment on the discussion.

>>2372151
>Read the comments
>Some are saying that it's a full new civ instead of a variant
Of course there's resources for kowtowing to West Taiwan...

>>2372393
At this rate, they will revive AoE III just to add another chink civ.

>Song and Jin Dynasties
I'm surprised, I thought IV was focusing on adding fantasy civs like that dragon empire thing a couple years back or joan of arc with a gun

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Armenians my beloved

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>mfw I'm white but I genuinely enjoy the chink kino DLCs
3K still sucks ass, but Immortal Pillars was genuinely great and I'm looking forward to this one

who's the underdog this wololo anyway?

>>2372447
Everyone except Hera

>>2372438
Where is your buddy, a few camels would help a lot

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What am I in for

>>2372475
Busy shitting on the street

>>2372447
MbL and Sebastian are the ultimate underdogs. But yeah, what other anon said.

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>>2372475
Oh he brought camels, he prob boomed a little before commiting units to it, his economy was bigger than both teal and grey
Not like I needed help anyways, feudal pikemen for Armenians hard counters that push

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Red did not took the clown push seriously, and he got wrecked for it

I fucking hate Nili

MBL needs to win heartt today or it's joever

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(you) better make a thread on /v/ as soon as it starts today, since I won't be able to
No, not the other anon
(YOU)

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>>2372605
m-me?

>>2372605
lmao, all streams are down

>>2372431
Asides from those 2, IV has a great track record for historical accuracy.
2 has like two dozen fantasy things now? Picts, 3 kingdoms china and so on and so forth

>>2372370
Comments are always a loud minority of people who don't play the game and are there to pat themselves on the back for not playing the game, this is true for most RTS games

Why is ACCM always a lot worse in LAN events? Does he spec cheat?

>>2372629
He has poor micro for a top10 player so people with good micro can dominate him a lot harder at LANs than on ladder with worse ping.

Lierrey and Hera really are like 500 elo above everyone else. Viper just got absolutely demolished. Zero chance at all

>>2372629
He gets real sweaty at LAN events I hear. Mouse slipping all over the place so it's hard to micro

>>2372708
Maybe it's extra stress because of big money. Extra 5k bucks for him means more than 20k bucks for others.

can you collect oysters with villagers if they are in shallow water or are they fishing ship only?

>aoe4 next dlc
>its chinks pandering again
LMAO
https://youtu.be/OmG50n-zCHQ?si=nw5rKwdpt-S1I-9X

>>2370398
I really enjoyed the last round of campaigns. It probably kept me from deleting the game.

>>2370439
Hera is a faggot gook clicker. I no longer pay attention to "pros" since Viper becoame a c

>>2372827
Should be able to. You can collect deep fish if the villager can reach them so oysters should be good as well.

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>>2372846
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3746540/Age_of_Empires_IV_Yue_Feis_Legacy/
>only 1 new civ
they really gonna make this game die

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>>2372864
>game survives 20 dollar dlc 0 new civs and no campaign
>somehow the 13 dollar dlc with a new civ for a change will kill it

>>2372864
>new civ
you mean Jin Dynasty (Chinese variant) just like Zhu Xi's Legacy but sold as a "civilisation"
this game really has become age of variants

I don't understand how score works. there were points where yo had equal villager count and army value to hera but still 2k lower score.

>>2372864
>>2372875
>>2372882
in fairness. theyve done a really good job at make the newer variants feel completely unique. the real issue is the dlc's are collectacivathons and the game is impossible to balance at this point.

>>2371678
its not even out you retard

what did ensemble end up doing with the soundtrack after age of kings? is it still that weird goofy 'not medieval at all' score by the guy that did the original?

>>2372884
k/d, res collected, res floating, map exploration, etc all contribute to score.

>liereyy only lost against hera in TTL
>hera has lost to multiple people both in TTL and Londinium so far
in spite of this it's obvious hera is gonna beat him badly, you guys hate hera but at least he fakes the hope of him losing to other contestants

>>2372906
false hope is crueler than a cruel truth

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Newfriend here, why is even the first campaign (hard) so hard? I would have never known how to destroy the fortress if I didn't go on youtube and find out you could get cannons on the sea

>>2372906
>in spite of this it's obvious hera is gonna beat him badly, you guys hate hera but at least he fakes the hope of him losing to other contestants
He doesnt fake but he doesnt play his good civs or strats before the grand final. Thats why it can sometimes look close before that.

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Am I playing this game right

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>>2372993
yes

>>2372827
Yeah players often did that on Coast Arena in TTL.

>>2372884
It's actually very simple:
>scouting (10 per 1%) + resource bank (1 per 10) + resources spent (2 per 10) + resources destroyed (2 per 10)
Hera had a lot better k/d and that tends to affect the score the most when disparity is big.

>>2372982
This isn't first campaign.

>>2372993
Consider turning off bloom.

Getting bored of Dota and might try actually gitting gud at AOE this time.
What Civ is the sexiest?

>>2373004
teutons

>>2373004
teutons

>>2373004
teutons

>>2372997
whats bloom

>>2373014
Graphic setting which makes everything shine too much. Been a scourge of gaming since Oblivion came out. Only some titles use it well and aoe2 DE isn't one of them.

>>2372993
Are you having The Fun?

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why are there tanks in my medieval game

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>>2370627
Samurai should have 40 base attack to represent the historical power of the katana.

>>2373081
if we want to represent the histoorical power they should have 8 base attack

which aoe is more popular for ranked play? 2 or 4? i know that 2's numbers are better but it also has a lot of singleplayer-only folks

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>>2373056
Hussites make do
>>2373236
Age22 has more MPeople than Age4, even with single players, so its the most lively

>>2373056
They aren't very good if you actually use one of their counters. Hera just suffers from light cav brain.

>>2373236
AoE2 has more than double the pvp players. You can see the stats for games played here
AoE2: https://aoe2recs.com/trends
AoE4: https://aoe4world.com/status

Last hour AoE4 had 2545 online matches while AoE2 had around 5500

TheViper will win it all

>>2373268
*Hera

>>2373244
milkers detected bottom-left wee woo weee woo

>>2371296
>before pros finally started using them as APCs, which was terrible and not intended.
That is still the only thing they're good for.

>>2373282
fucking kek

>>2372607
>(You)kimi

>>2373005
>>2373007
>>2373012
So what you're saying is I should main the French?
And Japanese.
And Goths.
And Byzantines.

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>casually makes it to semis after not even qualifying to the tournament

>>2373056
These have been in the game for years, way to out yourself as someone who doesn't even play aoe2

>>2372325
Worthless crap that didn't worked on lile 80% of the devices.

>>2373458
ok but what was it?

>yo went fast hand cannons
>lost
wow hand cannon guy was right this unit needs buffs

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>>>/v/736421007
londinium thread is up

Rip Seba, he's so ded

glad aoe4 is over

>>2373488
told you guys

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thoughts?

>>2373689
>>2373724
>Early modern era uniforms
AoE III bros...

>>2373724
Soe is Sex, and now i know why dotards loved her

Viper needs to retire. Disgusting display.

>>2373689
>>2373724
dancing on AoE3's corpse

>viper experiences lag
>during a top-tier LAN tournament
Totally not rigged
Is it the tournament organizers or the AOE2 server staff, that did it?
Both Hera and casters would have motives

>>2373787
How the fuck did you watch any of those games and think lag was the defining reason Viper lost?

>>2373788
Explain the lag at a LAN tournament

>>2373793
Cables are physical things, they can be stepped on and stuff

>>2373793
I assume there's no such a thing as LAN in DE, we might have regressed compared to the old versions. My suspicion is that they're playing online on the same servers that you play regular ladder games on.

>>2373787
There were pauses in other games for lag, chill the fuck out. They're still interfacing with the AoE2 servers.

>lag on a LAN tournament

>>2373829
Look, tech-illiterate, games do not allow for true P2P LAN anymore. Each game client still sends data to the AOE2 multiplayer servers which then sends it back to the opponent. Depending where that server is hosted in europe and how bad the connection is at that moment lag can and does happen.

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>Viper lost to Hera because of lag trust me

is viper washed?

>>2373689
>>2373724
fuuuuuuck i wish aoe3 was still getting content

>>2373988
he's been washed dude

>>2373724
There's no facings, no regimental cuffs, the tails aren't hooked, the breeches have pockets and aren't dropfront
The vest is good lenth but could be more split.

>>2373992
it's a shame but I can see why they decided to pull the plug, it somehow had a worse launch than aom retold on steam
and unlike aom, aoe3 doesn't even have a console version(I heard consolefags buy a lot of DLC, but that could be pure speculation)

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uhhh

>>2374013
Soe's pussy dried up reading this. Good job.

>>2373794
They dont play via LAN since that is not possible on DE. They still play on a server somewhere, probably UKWest since that would be the closest one.

>>2373724
Women arent supposed to wear that stuff.

>>2374072
Should we rip it off her if she goes on stage again?

>>2373829
LAN means "live in a venue" nowadays.

>>2373724
James used to fuck this

franks' cheap castles are actually quite oppressive in 1000 elo

>>2374158
>franks' cheap castles
this sounds like something you would hear a radio ad for

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>AI stomps the shit out of me during campaigns even on Moderate
>I'm afraid to play Online because it's going to be even worse

>>2374188
it's only temporary. there are plenty of 400 elo retards for you to play against.

>>2374190
But I'm already low elo in two other games...

>>2374191
accept boomer reflexes

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>>2374188
mathematically speaking there are plenty of retards on your level, you just have to get your ass beat enough times for the game to match you up with them then you can win sometimes and start feeling good about yourself

>>2374199
is better to spend more time learning the game vs ai, practicing hotkeys build orders ect than to go straight to ranked and lose 20+ games in a row to find someone your level.

>>2370442
They should get East euro architecture since they settled there (and eventually assimilated)

I pray for a Hera loss today. Bless you all, amen

>>2374158
Nigger throwing axemen are one of the worst unique units, how are you dying to that?

>>2374247
They are also one of the more buffed ones. It can get you by surprise.

>>2374243
Inshallah, Kafir.

>>2374247
>castles are just for the UU

I missed the whole tournament, just catching up the final.
How has been the road to the finals for Hera and Larry? I might watch a few sets of the earlier rounds when i have the time

>>2374346
Groups: fun stomp with them losing here and there to offmeta
Playoffs: boring sweaty omegastomp 1 hour 4-0's where seb and snek never had a chance

What happened to the /v/ thread, why did it die after 5 posts?

>>2374352
Untrained Concierges Sans Salaire being idiots and falling for the "redbull ad" post if I had to guess.

>live orchestra playing the aoe2 ost
kino

>>2374360
Will they play again at the end or was that all? I'd really love to hear more songs played live like that.

>>2374243
Larry win incoming.

>>2374352
because you were looking at the wrong thread, retard

>>2374425
I was looking at the RIGHT thread, which got deleted and has now become the RIGHT thread once again
friend

Very grateful it's Dave and T90 casting the finals, and hot fucking damn the production value is crazy. Someone at Red Bull loves AoE.

I heard most of the campaigns are actually fan made
is this real

Larry has come out swinging. Can he hold out for 5 wins?

Why isn't anyone playing the new mudhut empires

>>2374503
larry doesn't have the dlc
hera picked mapuche

>>2374503
>see these cool new abilities and units
>they are NERFED TO OBLIVION now :^]

>>2374504
Kind of bizarre that these tourney players don't even own all the content.

It won't happen. Stop believing. You can't fool me Lierrey

hera is getting CLAPPED
larry take my energy

>>2374506
A penny saved is a penny earned

>>2374508
Larry the white hope is winning and is breaking this arab buck.

HE TOOK THE MIDNIGHT TRAIN GOING AAAAAAANYWHERE

>>2374520
Kekddd

Noooooo Larry

>>2374532
I believe

>not a sweep
It's over

Shouldve been a best of 7. Best of 9 feels sort of rigged for Hera (due to his stamina and how he tends to get better with every game).

Im afraid that if Liereyy doesnt win today, he might never win a tournament ever again. Its been 6 years since he last won a tourney too, I think.

>keep bringing up biper even when he's not there
cultural victory

>>2374555
Stop being afraid and have some courage for our boy Larry.

>>2374567
I have courage. But does Larry?

>>2374020
Where will you be when they release Age of Empires 3: 3

this is going to be a hera score win isn't it

>>2374606
Yeah Lierry fucked up big time letting those few berserks kill like 50 villagers in raids

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>Hemorrhoid gets 0.4 resources more value out of a fight
>Larry resigns because he knows the game is lost
>Larry dominates for 200 hours straight and Hemorrhoid has 1 villager and 2 wood left
>Hemorrhoid keeps stalling because he wants to win the best of 71 through stamina

its over?

Liereyy threw all of his Paladins with 2 minutes left. Thats when the score switched.