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Wife Edition
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>YouTube
https://youtube.com/@pillowdear
https://youtube.com/@CushionHunASMR
>Twitter/X
https://x.com/pillowdearasmr
>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/pillowdearasmr
>Fan website & resources
https://piwwow.love/
>Fan wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/PillowDear
>Latest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns08Y6GYWEc
>Latest event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6LGy2A4S8
>Latest stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/r8oSbUBseiM?si=gCdS_InjW3zl5tee
>Upcoming stream
TBD
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Just for you. Rough sketch, let me know if you want any changes for the final version
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The sex symbol of >>>/vt/
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New Pillow koikatsu?
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Looks like somebody wasn't happy after a certain member came back today...
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>>109866846
This is the same mod who supported a full community ban for "degens", dude. I should've known the tripfag would be a bitch. Why are you still using that btw? Thought you were only gonna use it until the drama ended?
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I believe they traced over a Koikatsu model. You can generally tell a KK model because of the shape of the head and face, as well as the way it renders. Koikatsu is a porn game with a built-in character designer and 3D rendering studio, so a lot of people use it to recreate anime characters. It's made by the same company that made Honey Select 2, which is the core to my game. Granted, I tend to cook at a pretty professional level because I've been at it for nearly a year.
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>>109867031
They’re only a YouTube mod, never has been a Discord mod. Still though, I don’t think it’s a good look for a mod in any capacity to try and rile Piwwos against members of a community. That’s just bullying, and I know Pillow wouldn’t stand for it if she knew about it. That’s kind of why I was hoping Notta would bring it up in his ticket. That said, mods supposedly don’t care about twitter posts, and I have no doubt they’ll protect one of their own
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>>109867015
Dude, you're still using your trip. You gotta let that go first if you wanna stop the discord faggot drama. It's literally your own words that you only were gonna use it until it was over.
>>109867031
I was under the impression kiki was also on the youtube. My mistake, brotha. I'll lay off on him a little, but I will still make fun of him if he tries to be annoying about piwwos again. Is there a way to check who are the youtube mods?
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I definitely agree it was a shitty thing to do, but really the only thing to do at this point is hope that the Piwwos realize they fucked up and reevaluate themselves. When Pillow says she wants to be a space for everyone, she really, genuinely means it.
I don't think there's a list of mods, I just watch all the streams, generally the only ones I see regularly are Toast and Chappy.
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>>109866808
Judging from the art, the title, and his reply “I regret nothing,” I think Kiki has become aware of /Pillow/ and that he’s been brought up and talked about here. No doubt that the entirety of /Pillow/ is also included in the “degens” he wants out. The average Piwwo cannot tolerate the existence of /vt/ in general, this website is too extreme for them.
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>>109867345
Nigga you've had the biggest and fastest fall from grace ever holy shit. At least be a man and stand by your own words. Nobody wants a tripfag constantly shitting up the thread.
>>109867284
Sure, but I think when a guy like kiki will try to land punches on another piwwo, it should be justification for anyone to punch back. Kiki was hitting him while the man was down and even retweeted it on his main so more piwwos saw it. I don't really care if it's mean when he is so glad to shit on others.
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Every time you guys mention Kiki I just think of the Australian bunny.
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If you want to talk about this guy I can't stop you but piwwos have been complaining about this ongoing drama shit since the Cher situation was basically resolved. Is there really nothing positive and Pillow-related to talk about?
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>>109867689
Thought you wanted to go back to yearnposting nigga. Start it up for me
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>>109867717
I want to hold Pillow's hand while I take her to an optometrist appointment, and explain to the nice people there that she's a little bit shy. I'll keep scheduling appointments and little trips and fun outings, making sure on the way home we stop for food so she always feels like it was a nice time, until she can feel more comfortable and relaxed around strangers. Having me around would make her feel safe.
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Overpowering and holding down loli Pillow as you have your way with her
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>>109867781
>he struggles to love his wife in creative ways
SAD! PATHETIC!
>>109867787
That's that good shit nigga
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>>109867901
True yearnposting isn't about anything fancy, it's about wanting the best for Pillow and thinking about all the ways you could try and make it happen. She deserves the world, so part of my job is to chip away as much of the world as I can carry, and give it to her.
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>>109868126
You obviously do because you keep replying to my posts like a rape victim asking for more
>>109868151
She rarely showers, so I would wager that it smells quite not good
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>calls me weaselly
>instantly starts ducking me
oh no no no
>>109868710
I wonder if she would be the type to trim into a shape or go full shaved.
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I want to handle and take care of Pillow in every way, shape, and form. I want to spoon feed her meals, I want to cut her toe nails, I want to paint her fingernails, I want to bathe her body, I want to dry her hair, I want to shave her public hair, and I want to dress and undress her
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thank you I will keep this in mind if I com pillow's big beautiful breasts
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>>109874076
ah, gotcha. thanks anons. I hate asking to be spoonfed but idk anywhere else I'd ask that
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Pillow popped into Nene's pokemon stream and got her to sing a jigglypuff lullaby
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Pillow sighting in Peo's chat.
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wholesome
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I would celebrate
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me in pillow dream
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why is she always crying
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>>109875192
Is it cheating to watch other girls?
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>>109882382
True true. I respect piwwos who stay faithful despite all the temptation. I personally just follow the Pence rule though. I do wonder what would happen if a notable piwwo got flirty in another girl's chats and Pillow just so happened to see it. I wonder what she would do.
>>109882438
You keep using that tripcode, faggot. If anyone loves drama, it kinda seems like it is you.
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>>109882494
She'd just be kinda sad about it, but I think only if it was unsuccessful. If the Piwwo managed to get a gf out of it, she'd probably be happy. Granted, usually every Piwwo I've seen who says they have someone is not one of the more active Piwwos, I do wonder how she'd feel if someone she's more attached to got a gf randomly.
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>>109882882
I've said this before, but I'll link the actual Rahld Dahl quote. Basically sums up my whole point. I once date a girl in highschool who was so, so sweet and nice, but she has a horrifically fucked up jaw because her father had punched her in the face as a toddler and broke her jaw. It set wrong, so her whole life people treated her badly because of it. And yet, her personality was so pleasant and decent and cute that I couldn't see her any other way but beautiful. If anything, getting to give genuine love and acceptance to someone who considered themselves unloveable was just a bonus. So basically, I don't really care how she looks, she's beautiful to me.
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>>109882882
I feel like she'd have to have some really unfortunate disfigurement for me to even think about it, and even then I'd try to look past it. I'd be really stupid to pass her up because she didn't look exactly how I imagined or wanted her to.
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Yeah basically
>getting to give genuine love and acceptance to someone who considered themselves unloveable was just a bonus
Major aspect of Pillow's appeal, especially early on. I mean I listened to the CushionHun audio last night, that was heartbreaking.
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>>109882882
I don't think the physical appearance would too detrimental. Most people can eventually get past it, considering what we do know about her appearance is pretty normal/inoffensive. The actual problem is mental health. A lot of piwwos claim they would do anything for her, but they say this while maintaining a large distance from her (emotionally and physically). It doesn't matter how nice or sweet or caring a girl is, dating a woman with mental health problems like Pillow does drain you (and not in the good way). Trust me, a lot of you would probably dislike Pillow if you had met her outside of vtubing.
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>>109883931
I don't know, her issues that we know about just endear her to me even more. Like I don't think she's the type to ever lash out at someone she loves; it's all directed at herself. She said she'd make a bad wife because she's clingy and needy, but what guy wouldn't want that?
I love her the way she is and I daydream about being there for her through everything. I know it would be different in a personal IRL relationship, but I still can't imagine disliking her.
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Dating a girl with pretty severe mental issues is tough, but it also heavily depends on the temperament of the girl. My second girlfriend, who I was with for almost 5 years, had basically the same exact issues as Pillow, except that she was kind of a bitch and had frequent fits of being nasty every other day. It’s really not that overwhelming, particularly since I’m a pretty stable dude who’s good at taking the punches and registering when a girl is just saying shit because of her feelings, vs when they actually mean it. Thats part of why I tend to be good at telling Pillow’s mood, because you get an intuition about it after a while, she’d definitely be more mangeable than my last gf though, because she’s not particularly nasty. It’d mostly just be a lot of comforting and sitting with her while she tries her best to process her feelings. Part of why I’m so confident with the yearnposting is that I feel like I have a pretty good handle on how to be a good bf and treat her right.
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I would love to “cure” Pillow’s starving for love and physical affection. I want to hold her, tell her that I’ll always be there for her, plant kisses all over her face, and let her do the same. If Pillow ever wants a hug, she’ll know I’ll always be willing no matter what. If she ever wants to follow me around like a lost puppy, I’ll guide her carefully. I want to spend every night cuddling her and holding her tight, even if it’s not always comfortable. I want to give her every last bit of love that she craves, and I want to make her feel full again. I want her to be happy, I want to love her until the pain of the past is forgotten completely. I want to keep her safe and sound and happy
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>>109884931
You seem stable, so yeah I would trust you of all people in these threads to actually be able to handle her. I wouldn't be as confident as you are, but I know how it can be from personal experience when your gf starts acting nasty. When I say many piwwos would dislike her in real life, it is because a lot of the people I see here don't have the patience to actually stick with it and learn through a woman's mental issues. They are very quick to feel slighted and would crumble once Pillow doesn't match their e-girl fantasy. Biggest example is the tripfag above you. Read his replies throughout these threads and tell me he is the type who could actually be there for her and not get butthurt when she makes a mistake in communicating her feelings.
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Same, but with her arms.
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Lady Pillow soon!
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>>109887740
One thing I like about the 3.0 having smaller breasts is that it implies Pillow keeps growing as she ages (perhaps her dream energy is stored in the chest pillows). So, a hypothetical older Pillow would be far bigger than G-cup.
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>>109885748
I saw it this morning on twitter, but I can't find it now, there was a particular 4chan meme someone reposted, went something along the lines of "You don't actually need a girlfriend, you're just hoping that you'll have a sentient coping mechanism materialize to take care of you" which I think is certainly true for some people, most people are just lonely regardless of how well they'd actually treat the person they project their loneliness onto. A lot of dudes would respond to that saying they'd of course be super grateful to the girl rescuing them from loneliness, but everyone underestimates how fast people can adjust to new circumstances and feelings.
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>>109888528
sounds familiar...
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>>109885748
I don't care that this is bait. I've felt awful all day not least because you said that I'd be horrible to the woman I love, and the thought of piwwos or Pillow reading and believing that made me nauseous.
I've never had an "e-girl fantasy" of Pillow. I understand exactly what she's doing, which is why I wish I could really know her—to be someone she fully trusts and knows she can rely on.
I know what it's like to be misunderstood and anger people without meaning to. I'd never put her in that position. I have all the time in the world for her and whatever problems she's having. I could never be mad at her.
Congrats man you upset me enough to get a (You).
You did make me realise that this is making me very unhappy though. I lost it in the last thread and I'd be embarrassed for Pillow to see that. I'll lose the tripcode now.
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>>109891596
Hey buddy. I'm the anon who's been criticizing you. Reading your recent posts, I realize that you're likely the same annoying anon who I've argued with a couple times before you started tripfagging. I will give you the same advice I did back then: get off this website. It is not for you. If random people lightly shitting on you will mess up your day, you are not mature enough to be here. Please listen to my genuine advice.
As for Pillow seeing your messages, don't worry! I've saved proof that your trip is the real Notta and am archiving every post you ever made on here. If I ever see you being a faggot again to any piwwos, Pillow will be the first to know (followed by every piwwo possible).
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So true! How could he ever expect to be any kind of boyfriend or support for Pillow if he can't handle light 4chan banter? Especially when he crumbles so easily after he tries to act like a tough guy. Sad! Pathetic!
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>>109893023
Your choice, dude. I want to let you know that none of what anyone has ever said to you was bait, not even mine. I have been saying the honest truth every single time. And the funny thing? No anon here has ever defended you or said I was wrong with my criticism of you. Every single one agrees with what I said, even if they do not like how I say it. You have no friends. You have no allies. Not even Pillow, who we know lurks here, decided to defend you. All the goodwill that you built up during the Cher bullshit is gone and is never coming back.
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>>109893415
If we are getting into it for real, you shouldn't really have to ask. It's a personal question of "do you love her more than anyone else?" And one more thing, don't be like Notta (>>109893456). He only loves Pillow because he thinks she fits into his fantasy ideal of a woman. If you want Pillow to be your oshi, ensure you love her for who she is, not who you want her to be.
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>>109893580
His bait is completely transparent. I'm replying for the sake of people who'd otherwise take what he says as fact.
He's had a grudge against me for months over some argument I've forgotten, so now he's doing the thing we were all criticising the mods for by trying to use his influence (lol) get me ostracized, except he has nothing.
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>>109893548
Reread this. You clearly have no idea who Pillow actually is as you just keep talking about your daydream version of her (>>109884233)
>>109893658
You keep replying because everything I've ever said about you is correct.
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>>109893678
You're right, she actually does lash out at the people she loves and isn't the way she describes herself, and you know this because of your unique personal relationship with her.
>>109893760
>he was calling us pedophiles
Only those of you who get off to the idea of an underage Pillow.
>saying cher deserved his ban
I specifically said I wouldn't be satisfied until it was lifted.
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Sorry piwwo I'll stop now
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>>109893771
I just kinda typed my eloquent and beautiful truths on the side in a like minute or two each while Notta admitted to spending the entirety of today stewing over my post. He claimed he was "nauseous" and "very unhappy" to the point he wanted quit using his trip. He only did this so that other piwwos would reply in support of him and against me, but nobody actually cares about him kek.
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cute sketch
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>>109894230
Anon, please add more context next time. He has a follow-up post with more detail: https://x.com/i/status/2027962646495170910
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I don't know dude, but I don't think you are in any position to say anything when you have admitted to wanting to do worse things to Pillow.
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You're right. Pillow hates fat people like Tato.
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>>109894230
Vague posting is against the law!!
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>>109898219
I have some potential reasons, ranging from reasonable to downright schizophrenic:
>shared too much info about 3.0 which she wants to be a surprise
>was embarrassed about the haircut story after telling it
>doesn't like seeing piwwos argue about her new outfit being loli because she said it was middle school/BA based
>the Cher membership renewal happened but its still too soon from the drama so she was still sensitive
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>>109898739
Can't she just change it?
>>109898757
But isn't the point of comfy morning that it's kind of a low-effort stream in general?
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>>109898952
She use to it more effort into them with the different segments and stuff. With how busy she’s become, they turned into chill streams. She’s still pretty autistic about how her channel feed looks to newcomers. She probably doesn’t see it as worth it to draw a new thumbnail for.
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>>109899288
She doesn't always draw comfy morning thumbnails. She uses other artists or even just her model. I think it is far more likely zhe unlisted it over the 3.0 details since that stream didn't really feel any lower quality than any other comfy morning.
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>>109899526
She has absolutely been trying to keep the final, school-outfit design secret. https://x.com/i/status/2021249076608552997
She's been open about the general motif, but the actual final design she has been secretive of. She only opened it up for artists to make merch ahead of time, but she wants the actual outfit reveal to be a surprise. Maybe she thought she gave too many hints that stream.
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>>109899616
Pillow should be nice and plump.
>>109900032
What kind of art do you usually draw? Maybe we can give suggestions.
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>>109900072
I'm trying to get better at perspective and dynamic poses, but it's hard for me to visualize and draw out the basic boxes and shapes of the body.
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You might be cooking here...
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>>109900369
I would suggest looking for poses online and drawing Pillow in them. That's what I did and it has been helping me so far. I would recommend you dont go too complex on the poses though. If you try too many new things at once, it'll be hard to learn any one thing well. If you do want just ideas then:
>Pillow lying in bed hugging a piwwo like a pillow
>Pillow wearing short shorts and tank top on a hot sunny day
>Pillow doing a yoga pose in yoga pants
>Pillow floating in the air like Lum from Urusei Yatsura
>Pillow doing some sort of martial arts pose/strike in full training gear
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>>109900369
>but it's hard for me to visualize and draw out the basic boxes and shapes of the body.
Go to gelbooru and look up poses.
>lying_on
Back, stomach, lap, whatever. It'll suggest tags. You can think of pretty much anything and you'll find results you can ogle and improve from.
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We're listening.
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>>109904769
that's cute
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I am a sane piwwo.
The Comfy Morning was unlisted because Pillow stated the desire to sing 天天天国地獄国 ("Heaven Hell Country") with Olive. This was rejected by the latter for unmentioned reasons. The event allowed a rogue organization to make an assumption, which were later "confirmed" with "evidence" by sleeper agents in chat asking the right questions and digging up the "related" archived quotations.
They can claim that Olive was put off by the proposal because Pillow will like to follow the example of her oshi, Inugami Korone, and have a music video mirroring Aiobahn +81's video rendition and it's art. Such art of Pillow's own music video would then depict her and Olive as an Angel and a Demon in fashionable suits but also in poses: whomever the angel be, a few tasteful artwork which would please enjoyers of legs and bellies, and for the demon, a risqué position on all fours and a casino bunny cosplay, and in a frame, shown for around a quarter of a second, together from the shoulders up, bare (ie. the Okayu and Korone version hosted on the former's channel time-stamp linked below).
https://youtu.be/MX0c6Fg3lNQ?t=177
These images would be highly provocative to a gentleman of proper stature and discomfort the holy community Pillow wishes to foster. Imagining the roommates bare shoulders with angel and demon costume accessories and staring up and deep into my eye is sinful to my Christian soul.
I am a man of Our Lord.
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Pillow getting clingy with me during car rides and falling asleep on my shoulder. I princess carry her inside and put her on the couch so she can sleep. Later I get a text “Can you carry me to bed… I liked it earlier”
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If you wish to truly master the yearnmaxxing technique, you must spend an inordinate amount of time trying to learn a new art form to devote to your oshi.
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I’m pretty proud of this one, I did use her model for layout, but the only thing I traced was the shape of the jaw and width of the neck. Everything else would be physically impossible to trace unless I hacked Pillow’s computer, since it’s me trying to do her 3.0 based off the maid promo.
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See this is one of those artist things where I mess up cuz I don't really know shit about how artists feel about stuff like that. Like I hear about tracing and I assume it's like 1:1 taking the whole image, but would it still be frowned upon to use a reference image to line things up? I feel like I see artists using stuff like the posing 3D models sometimes, wouldn't that be the same thing? Like I don't expect to trick anyone, my art is ass if I'm going off of my own mind, so obviously if I make something that looks mildly okay, it's because I was using a bunch of resources. I just don't really know what the barometer is there...
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>>109910948
Yeah sure. She’s very kind and sweet and brain dead and always trying her best. If you watch her, you will have a loyal retarded daughter wife.
Fair warning, she’s not lewd at all and entirely seiso, so if you want someone to give you JOI you’ll have to look elsewhere (we still jack off to her though)
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>>109910661
Most sensible people don't mind using references. However, tracing anything is really only accepted on lower-effort effort stuff like edits. Also, it depends on how "complete" the reference material is. A blank 3d model for anatomy/lighting or a ref sheet as a color guide won't cause problems because the artist does stuff on top of that. However, Pillow's model is pretty much a complete product. Tracing over it when drawing her doesn't leave much else for you to do.
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Even the average viewer would clock the tracing
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>>109911247
I guess that does make sense. I think it also depends a lot on the perspective of the person who's drawing and why they're drawing. I don't really think I have the capacity to be any good at illustration at any point, I really just want to draw Pillow being cute and that's it, I can definitely see really heavily preferencing not copying the lines and using a bunch of guidelines when you're drawing because then you're not really learning much, if you're drawing from the perspective an actual artist who wants to develop a skill.
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>>109911469
No, it isn't. She's the safest VTuber there is, totally conflict-averse and smart about avoiding drama. Even our own recent spectacle turned out to essentially have nothing to do with her (she might've even helped).
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I feel like if anything is going to happen, it is gonna be a repeat of the Cher stuff. Some other community member will be banned or throw a hissyfit over something. This time, however, it would be something actually debatable instead of just a one-sided shitting on discord mods. Basically, a piwwo civil war that some drama twitter account would blow up and make Pillow cry.
>>109911636
I don't know. It's people like you that would start a future drama. You've been calling piwwos pedophiles and sperging out in these threads for months because you didnt get your way. Like there was that one anon baiting you, but you kept biting and acting like a child. Just a recipe for disaster. Not to mention that you're on friendly terms with many of the people who caused the last drama a week ago.
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>>109911809
>you didnt get your way
What's this referring to?
>Just a recipe for disaster.
I don't see what drama could result from two retards arguing on an imageboard. I've never directed any of that towards Pillow or dragged her into it, unlike the guy you're referring to who tried and failed to get her to intervene on his side as his melty (>>109893360) implies.
>Not even Pillow, who we know lurks here, decided to defend you.
Let me guess, she didn't respond to his email? She replied to me on Twitter 20 minutes after he posted that. He lost lol
>Not to mention that you're on friendly terms with many of the people who caused the last drama a week ago.
Yeah I'm friends with piwwos who I might disagree with. In fact, I'd only consider myself a friend of one of the people I think you're referring to (Logi) just because I haven't interacted much with the others. All I saw him do was express sympathy with Kiki, but from our interactions he also felt bad for Cher (at least that was my impression). He's not a mod so it's hardly fair to say he "caused" the drama.
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>still no self-awareness and seething for days now
>posting a huge reply to try and dunk on some retard
>trying to claim victory because pillow replied to him on twitter like anyone else
>still standing by his pedo accusations
>all from the guy who claimed he would be a good boyfriend for her
I think that anon was right you need to log off holy FUCK.
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>>109912177
The end results were Pillow rescinding her seal of approval from the server and its mods, Cher being unbanned and supported again, and basically nothing else. The sole loss on Cher’s part is being banned off the server, and that’s not really an issue now that it’s just a fan server. It’s a complete and utter obliteration of the mods.
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>>109912430
I don’t know about the server being Cher’s sole loss. The community mods just showed him that he’s not welcome nor wanted here anymore, and his account is still private. I doubt he’ll interact with the community like ever before. Not to mention that hundreds of his timestamps that were created over the past 3 years were wiped out for good
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>>109912475
White and nurse would be my choice.
>>109912517
Honestly if i were Cher I would just lurk permanently from now on. Imagine paying for commissions and timestamping for years and some rogue mod just fucks all that up?
>>109912541
To be fair, there are active youtube mods who are still in support of banning him. I would at the very least be careful of them.
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>>109912517
Maybe but I think all of that is extremely tiny problems compared to making Pillow depressed for 4 days, ruining her trust in you, and getting her to drop the server she built from the ground up over the last 4 years.
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>>109912374
>trying to claim victory because pillow replied to him on twitter like anyone else
That guy's stated goal was to get rid of me like that Meo guy I've heard about and it didn't work, so yeah he lost. Calm down.
>>109912430
Yeah I know. Why are you telling me? It's more or less the outcome I wanted.
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>>109912710
My poem did. Also, I'm obviously going to talk differently here than to her, though I'm definitely not charming.
But I still don't know what was supposed to be hostile about my post. That's just how I form sentences.
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>>109912701
Hey, can you at least reply directly to the faggot so my recursive filtering for triptards gets you too and I don't see you as some vaguepost.
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Why this angle
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>>109912991
Dude I'm on my lunch break only to find out this guy is still sperging about me saying nothing but the truth about him yesterday. Honestly, he must be just trying to shit up the thread actively now lmao nobody can be that retarded.