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Welcome to the Semen Retention General!
Serpent-Slayer Edition!
>What is Semen Retention?
Semen retention is the practice of completely abstaining from masturbation and ejaculation, often with the intention of preserving and redirecting vital and sexual energy to oneself.
>Why do it?
Reported benefits include: increased vitality, mental clarity, reduced stress, increased motivation, increased energy, improved focus, healthier hair/skin/eyes, deeper meditation, improved AP/Lucid Dreams, deeper voice, improved mood, greatly improved testosterone, improved physical strength and many more.
>Wet Dreams?
They happen because you had a sexual dream and you coomed. Learn to be conscious on your dreams and stop the succubus.
>What causes wet dreams?
The causes are many: Illnesses, telepathic bad actors fucking with your dreams, excess energy build up, watching too much sexually-inducing stuff, lusting during the day, lack of an adequate transmutation activity, eating too late at night, excess nutrients overall, stimulants like maca, ginseng, ginger, excess protein, excess carbs, tight clothes (pajamas) for bedtime, bad sleeping posture (this varies, find the one that suits you best), going to bed with full bladder, exposure to hormonal disruptors via food (pesticides...) or body care products (soap, deodorant etc)...
>The only thing worth busting for is having children. Once you realize this you win SR.
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>In case of urges:
- https://imgur.com/a/nofap-anecdotal-evidence-g4eGH
- Don't peek and Hold your breath for as long as you possibly can. The urge usually pass after that. If not, repeat.
- Horse stance or chair pose: Do it while clenching the abdomen and all legs' muscles, raise arms for extra blood flow redirection. Works both for killing erections or urges.
- Any physical activity.
- Testicular breathing (also works for wet dreams). Take a deep breath while flexing your perineal muscles. Hold for a couple seconds then release, as you let the sexual energy/tension levitate through your spine to your brain. Repeat around 7-9 times. You can do this in any position.
On long clean streaks many report benefits that transcend current science like a sort of "magnetism" or higher "vibration/aura" that attracts/appeals to other living beings, a higher perception, a stronger and intimidating "aura/presence", a deeper connection with nature, an attractive BO (people usually report it as "pheromones") and more.
>Advices:
- Mental Purity 1.1: Semen Retention acts as a bio-electromagnetic amplifier. Watch the quality of your thoughts because your inner state will get amplified and manifested. Lust is the Ojas killer. Do not engage with Lust.
- Mental Purity 1.2: Keep a journal as a tool for introspection.
- NEVER watch porn of any kind.
- Remove triggers from your life. Masturbation is a bad habit. Break that bad habit.
- Focus on achieving a goal. An art, a craft, competing, etc.
- Meditate and/or Pray Daily. Try a minimum of 5 minutes to start off.
- Exercise/Gym/Sports/Martial Arts. If it is something social even better.
- Good habits like healthy eating, water fasting, dry fasting, sun exposure and cold showers do seem to speed up the process.
- Sublimation: literally using the energy.
- Transmutation: changing the quality of energy to something different. (Surya Namaskara, 8 brocades, Tibetan rites)
- Avoid stimulant drugs such as caffeine or adderall
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Keep in mind that the efferent nerves attached to your testes necessarily means that any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to your junk to produce sexual fluids and this is the reason why celibacy is first and foremost of the mind
The root of this entire matter is the mind - without conquering the mind, celibacy is a futile effort
The signals from the brain happen on the subconscious autonomic level
This is why any lustful thought, image, or sound is necessarily a command to the sexual organs to produce sexual fluids (the more intently you look, the higher amplitude of a signal gets sent: body > afferent nerves > brain > efferent nerves > body)
Therefore "Conversion of sexual energy to something" is necessarily a HORRIBLY inefficient process (Not to confuse with Sexual Transmutation)
Fluids will be reabsorbed, but the energy and materials cost to make it vs how much is "taken back" via reabsorption is SEVERELY unbalanced and super net negative
Sexual fluids are made from the cream of the crop of the body's resources - constantly generating them means that you are constantly draining away the cream of the crop of your resources.
Taoist writings said that the sexual organs will even take primacy over nourishing your other internal organs at some point. (Thus, doing a spiritual practice as a coomer is a surefire way to die faster).
Scientific evidence and interesting reads:
https://privatebin.net/?acbf9c4fcdc1b1e4#CVwevsNgp9ecNrrhsf125uWdBBnX8 vB7eR544VL8Zv6A
https://pastebin.com/qbTd4Lai
https://pastebin.com/dzA2yCdr
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts- page-1/
https://www.acupuncture.com/education/points/kidney/kid1.htm
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It’s always good to remember why /x/ is the most accurate place for this topic: SR is one of the clearest paranormal inducing topics among all discussed on /x/. It’s a sacred practice that has been the one of the main focuses in every major religion or spiritual practices. The mystical side of it is what we try to focus on.
SR can be also be seen as a political issue. The porn industry is a tool made by the Jews to deteriorate and corrupt societies. Porn works in ways that program new sets of behaviour in its audience and because of its strong addictive qualities they stay hooked. The most important goal for porn’s male audience was and is the release of their semen. As we now know, the disadvantageous consequences of releasing are heavy: a man becomes less of a man, he gets sick and weak, his mind numbed, he will have impotence issues etc. Upto the point his spirit almost dies.
SR is beneficial to make one healthier and stronger, more fit, if you will. So the topic could be discussed on /fit/. Anyone looking for more ways to get fitness gains would benefit hugely from the SR.
Also SR has so many other benefits that it could be discussed in the /adv/ board. These would be topics how it improves one’s social life, mental state, makes more time to be more productive etc.
The biggest benefits of SR are mystical in nature and the whole practice is fundamentally very close to the spiritual side of things. All the other topics in /x/ are left far behind and SR actually makes this board of any relevancy. This is also known by the enemy and they make strong efforts to suppress, hijack, twist to end this discussion.
SRX-related YouTube videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oby08eHpIOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xroX6M5BMUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Um1Njhe2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI-8jlaS674
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# # # THREAD HYGIENE PSA # # #
Starve the shillery.
No attention for them.
No replies.
Focus.
On.
The.
Prize.
(Pro tip > Hide shill posts: Click on the arrow next to the post number, click 'Hide', Comfy.)
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Hey everyone, hope you all are doing well. I haven’t posted here in a while because of the new captcha, but I figure I might as well try and contribute something constructive and share my experience, as it seems a lot of the expert retainers have pretty much given up on this place and moved on to greener pastures so to speak.. Anyways, here is the current streak I am on.
I’m happy to report I’ve just hit 30 days free of PMO. Since hitting this goal I had been on a pretty bad binge for a few months, only getting like 7-20 day streaks before succumbing to urges. During that time though, I was smoking weed every day all day and I have since quit (over two weeks off of weed, I had a bad urge last night though and almost relapsed).
Because of the binge that I mentioned, I had a series of really annoying wet dreams/succubus attacks at night because I guess my sex organs were used to being in overdrive producing secretions (I was getting butt raped and I came from it).
Here are the wet dreams I had, if you’re smart you can figure out what the number between the parenthesis represents. 1/24/25 marks the start of the streak and each date below is when I had a wet dream. I like keeping track of the streaks in an app called Nomo and then forgetting about it, but I record NE’s because I want to see if they’re getting better, if there are patterns I can extract and generally just to see how my progress is going. I’ve been into SR for about 2 years now so I’m familiar with the benefits of a couple month streak, but I really want to go a full year.
1/24/25
2/20/25 (23)
2/21/25 (1)
2/23/25 (2)
2/24/25 (1)
Notice how on 2/20/25 when I had the first wet dream after 23 days of being on a streak, and then count the rungs of the ladder in pic rel that are also 23. Did the succubus see this and say “nope, fuck you im not finished with you yet”. I really just want to get passed 30 days of pure clean retention without having a wet dream. Good luck to you all!
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Oh, oops. It only appears as though there are about 23 rungs in the ladder when I set that image as my desktop wallpaper, but you can clearly see there are more. But anyway I take each rung to represent a day and when you finally get to the top, you are back in God's good graces. And so you can see there are 30 rungs and when you get past that top rung, then you get to enter this pic. And when I get to 30 days pure retention clean then I will set this pic as my wallpaper.
Don't let the demons pull you down bros.
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Day 0. I had a great streak going. What a shame.
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>How far did you get?
60 days
And what was the trigger?
Bad day at the office about a week ago. I was extra depressed and the office is full of women in their early 20s with their damn tight jeans walking around everywhere. I let my mind slip into lust, and since then every day I felt the serpent tightening around me with more and more lusty thoughts.
I tried psalms, I tried sitting in front of a wall, I tried staying busy, but the poison was already in.
God damn it.
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>the office is full of women in their early 20s with their damn tight jeans walking around everywhere
There should really be some kind of dress code in the office. The office I work in is so full of round bundas. It makes things extra hard for a recovering coomer.
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>>42034368
Both hormones first but demons amplifying it. Unironically do some kind of work of mercy or as the non Christians would say focus your sexual energy on healing to world ir something positive. Definitely not yourself you'll be fapping to only fans traps riding dildo bikes by the end of the night.
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Day Not Counting
but a few days not yet a full week. After a terrible binge I am coasting strong I started doing acts of charity and it has worked wonder to offset urges... also jigsaw puzzles.
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It's me again, the longest running nofapper here I think, with ten years of trying to quit. I am begging anyone to give me a way to avoid my next relapse. Tomorrow I'll be alone again and I'll definitely log into a discord to goon with another dude. What can I do until then to make sure I will not log in? I'm can't delete the account it takes two weeks to complete the process. I can't go outside, I'm stuck inside. Inb4 I can't chop my dick off, but I wish I could
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>Tomorrow I'll be alone again and I'll definitely log into a discord to goon with another dude
This is just a story you are telling yourself unconsciously. Make the CONSCIOUS decision to NOT MAKE A BAD CHOICE within the moment. Read this article on karma. Start telling yourself a different story about yourself, for example "I have quit porn and masturbation". Discord is obviously a trigger for you so get off of that shit. Block that dude, that's weird af anyway. Are you that french schizo dude with the youtube channel btw?
https://swamij.com/karma.htm
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Nut smellers get the rope first.
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>>42033855
gratz on reaching that first month anon.
Remember, the real benefits comes when the streak is clean.
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>>42035382
>Remember, the real benefits comes when the streak is clean.
Ya i know :-/ i just want to get to 30 days with no nocturnal emissions at all ill be happy then. I don't think a wet dream is as detrimental as watching porn then jerking it though, but still not ideal. The semen is just the gross physical substance and not that actual spiritual energy ojas or w/e you wanna call it
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yes its T smell
1 week of SR
or
2 days of taking T booster / no SR (tokat ali and fedogia agrestis) gave me the same smell
*dont take T booster it give you blue ball all the time
its smell 3 hours maybe after cleaning.. its not like dirt smell itss T smell
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>>42035392
I'm on 18 with an iron will to go as long as I can. I had a wet dream where I had sex even though I hadn't been fantasizing or looking at anything at all.
However I don't think it set me back too much as I haven't given into lust or gooned. There might've been a slight energy drain, I haven't really come to a solid conclusion on the subject
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>>42034061
It's cool how you are self aware of how lust escalates. You gotta intervene early and aggressively. Don't be lukewarm about it
>oh haha i'll just mentally goon a little bit, doesn't hurt anyone
Kill any lusty thoughts with extreme focus and be completely thorough. It's the enemy.
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Honest question, is the only way to make a woman want to marry you explicitly, outright lying and saying that's not what you want, you only want to fuck her, or otherwise to pretend you're not interested in her whatsoever, even if it gets to a point where she's throwing herself at you?
Two girls in my life have thrown themselves at me, and in both cases, I somehow turned it around to a point where they rejected me.
t. 27 y/o virgin.
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>>42036233
>Kill any lusty thoughts
It's also useful to maintain a celibate awareness. Sometimes your body acts without you realize. But as soon as you notice your body moving as a gooner, you forcefully intervene within a nano second.
Another thing is riding out the dopamine rushes. You can get spikes just anticipating the nut, even being in situations (eg. alone with internet access) can give you insane surge in dopamine as your body anticipates the opportunity to goon. The good thing is that if you simple STOP and WAIT, the feeling doesn't last more than a few minutes.
The golden ticket to long term SR is self awareness and the skill to intervene.
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Step 1: No second glaces. If you see a pretty woman, that's the last time you glace.
Step 2: Win the mental battle. If her image in burned into your mind, battle it until it goes away.
Step 3: Guard your peripherals. Even the side of your eye will try to peak. Don't make a special rule for it. Any image real or not, however gained, must be battled and completely dissolved
Step 4: Treat all inputs the same. The lustful component to images can be dealt with in real time and face to face. You can now function fully without falling into lust, or return to previous steps if needed.
All power is in the mind. Master the mind and no harm can come to you. No succubus can sway you.
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don't read if you're not ready.
Only 0.01% will understand this.
Idle hands, lack of responsibility and ambition in exchange for cheap pleasures and false achievements is the price you pay for the outcome of your life.
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That's the thing, it is not unconscious, I am aware, I decide upon it, because it sounds so hot and alluring to sin. When I'm alone, the thought excites me beyond comprehension, it is the most exciting thing of the day. But then if I nut, I'm left to face the consequences, not an ounce of horniness left
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I ordered the Holy Bible yesterday and I’m going to read it everyday, so I can post a SR relates verse at the end of the day and help anons see the light of SR and the Trinity.
We all need them and I will serve it to you on a golden platter. Free of charge of course.
>Inb4 Christcuck and Jesus was a Jew
Thanks for associating me with Christ and Jews don’t do shit for free buddy. Jesus did everything for free, because he loves us.
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>>42037023
i consider myself a christian if asked by anyone or any bullshit forms or whatever and i'm not dissuading you from still posting your verses but i hope you can at least understand that not everyone relies on them for their own particular sr system that works best for them. if you aren't claiming that your system of verses is superior to all other strategies that sr anons are using then by all means go ahead
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>day 32
>had a dream about having sex with my whore ex
>didn't have a wet dream
>just woke up feeling sad
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>>42036491
Yes but you do have a Guardian Angel tasked to you by God and it is good practice to call upon their aid. It all comes through The Father, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit obviously.
You could also say "Come Holy Spirit protect me this night."
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>>42036219
In my experience it's no worse than 1/4 as bad as ejaculation from masturbation.
The hormonal reaction is definitely different. I've had wet dreams where erection persisted for like an hour after, which means there was no prolactin.
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>>42037779
Yeah that's demons messing with your hormones. Focus your energy to something positive I'm Christian but this is still good practice since it is Virtuous.
"I offer my struggle up to you Lord to do with as you see fit in your perfect Judgment."
If not Christian you can "focus your energy" towards the Universe for healing or something whatever I don't care it all goes to God in my opinion if you are being selfless about it.
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>>42037838
>Yeah that's demons messing with your hormones
Nah, it's very real feelings and emotions from my past, buried deep inside me, that are able to resurface when my brain is shut off and not in a position to keep them buried.
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Can anyone pray for me or give me tips for winning the battle with digital hording?
I have a ton of porn on my phone and I need to get rid of it by tomorrow as I want to start Nofap and no porn then. I could just delete it, but them I am left with this since of loss for awhile.
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>>42037936
You have to "brainwash" yourself into truly understanding how detrimental this addiction is to you. You can do this in a number of ways, reading the recommended literature in the OP, watching youtube videos of experts on this subject, understanding how much better your life can be if you quit. But yeah, YOU have to delete all that garbage degeneracy, because this is what it is.
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I remember when I finally deleted my porn folders it was like cutting an arm off. Scary how attached you get to such dumb things. I still have more hidden in dark places I need to delete.
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I simply bought a new phone. Truth be told it was getting quite old, but as the years went by on SR the replacement went quite smooth. I think it was the inner change that helped with that. Letting go of shit feels quite manly, whether it's old contacts I'm never gonna talk to, pictures I made that I really never bothered to look up again or cool/funny memes I forgot about. Change is going to happen eventually, might as well take the first step. You'll be surprised of the self you've always been, but never confronted. Things are so much easier now.
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>>42033483
Recently I've been flipping through the anecdotal evidence imgur again, just out of boredom and all that
That one reddit post from a woman witnessing a man's SR-related changes firsthand hit me the hardest, and now I really really want to read more third person perspective stuff like that - it's just a lot more inspiring to me for some reason
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>>42037936
Trust yourself. Surrender yourself to your decision instead of bracing yourself.
If you turn back on nofap and miss it, you know where to find porn again, you aren’t truly giving anything up by deleting it. It’s just to symbolize a commitment to yourself. The feeling of loss is entirely about what it means to you to make the commitment, not deleting the pictures.
If you stay committed and don’t look up porn again, the absence of it is evidence of your commitment. A reminder of loss will become a reminder of strength. If you test yourself and need to keep trying, it will take on the color of persistence.
Note no moral judgement or exaltation toward the decision here. You don’t need to hang it all on deleting your porn folder. It’s just about what you’re communicating to yourself and who you want to be. If you’re ready and you want it, let yourself decisively commit. If you’re not ready or bear doubt still, let yourself attend to the call and renew your position.
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The loneliness goes away after a while. How can you be lonely when God is with you always now?
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About 105 days in, though I've lost count officially. I've reached an equilibrium where it feels like I'm no longer changing, and it's hard. Women continue to reject me, my creative projects inch forward at only a tiny scale, and I'm trying to do the right things but they don't seem to work.
I do this for God, certainly, as I know it's the right thing no matter how I feel personally, but otherwise, the only reason I have to keep this up is to prove to myself and others that I can live a life of constant, gradual self-improvement and still get jack shit for it. I promise you all this, if I fail in life, to find a wife, have children, and create works of art that leave an impression on people, it will be definitive proof that you can dedicate your every fiber to your dreams and still fail to achieve them.
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I go into the realm of the invisible,
The weight of my earthly body,
The surging forces of my earthly life
Release their hold.
In the world into which I now enter
The watchful care of the Angels,
The loving kindness of the Archangels,
The creative power of the Spirits of the Ages
Work upon the souls of men.
My heart bears in it many thoughts of conflict
But also the thought of Christ.
May this grow in the world of sleep
Into full being
That I may receive through powers of light
His Living Peace.
Amen
>Adam Bittleston
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>Yesterday morning (day 16), wake up and see a fluffy anthropomorphic bull man in pastel colors like some tumblr nightmare in my minds eye
>think about him all day
>last night, hear him talking to me and he tries to do some weird stuff like tell me he's gonna break my fingers and SMD while I get paralyzed and can't move
>Hold my resolve and don't coom, but still rattled me
Never let anyone tell you furry shit ain't portals to the spiritual world and that it's benign. Incubi are freaky fuckers
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>>42038212
Energy transmutation is talked about all the time on here. I recommend reading picrel, although the Christian bias that you usually find on these threads might have people steer you away from it despite the Nei-ye not really being religiously based
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>>42038218
Only because Christian transmutation of suffering and temptation is easier and correct (yes I'm Christian how can you tell?).
There is value in it I found value in reading the Kybalion before returning to Christianity but it is just Masturbation of the Soul.
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Suffering is a fact of the world we live in denying that is denying reality. You can Joyfully suffer but you can't escape it outright in this life. We trust that the suffering is necessary for the perfect plan of God based on his perfect Judgment that this is 100% the best path. Why I don't know for sure but how do you explain the workings of a Combustion Engine to an Ant? It Just works trust me.
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Today is day 28
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I know faggots come in here talking shit about this being a jeet/incel general but it's truly one of the best generals on 4chan.
Inspiring even.
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>big ol flabby man tits
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Day 15 of no ejaculation, no edging, no porn.
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>>42033479
The lack of sleep is getting to me.
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>>42038947
I don't know what's going on, but I'm having tons of trouble sleeping through the night. It hasn't been too bad, as the corollary is that I feel more treated with less sleep, but suddenly only getting 5-6 hours every night can't be good for me in the end.
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Day 45 no PMO. While surfing the net I’ve noticed lewd things tend to influence my desires much more than accidentally seeing the occasional hardcore degeneracy. I’ve been noticing certain tight pants are much more stimulating than full on porn. This must be a sign of the brain healing in some strange roundabout way. Also feet. Something about retention and feet attraction is very linked in my neurochemistry. Anyone else getting this or have experience dealing with this?
It’s like my spirit has flipped the desire axis on its head. Hyper stimulation seems to have little effect on me but somewhat suggestive things are very stimulating, starting around day 30.
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I dont really have a porn addiction. I can go weeks without porn, but I have some deprived fetishes and I dont know if thats just a part of who I am or some demons I have to expell?
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After how many days do you think you will get decent AP/lucid dream abilities? Based on this nofap meme image im going to guess around the 60-90 mark? And then it will only get better from there
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>>42040133
Hope you are doing well man, haven't seen you in these threads in a while. I'm curious to know what the spiritual implications of your mental illness are and what sort of spiritual practice you can do to help. Looking big though man keep on pushing forward, never give up. God is on your side.
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I'm a new guy to this community and I started doing this retention no porn stuff and it was going so well, and I failed after 16 days. After taking a peek at porn and fucking spiraling in the frame of one hour. Peter failed Jesus so I'm just going to get back up and keep going from today and try to not fail again.
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I once got into an accident and hit my shin against a pole. Skin burst open so I had to get stitches at the hospital. Obviously it was quite painful and bloody. Before I got stitches the nurse gave me a shot of anesthesia. The pain was gone quite fast and I thought I was able to work that night. Needless to say that wasn’t the case and about halfway through the night the anesthetic wore off, but I still kept on working (didn’t want to show my weakness to the girl I liked). Is blue balls worse than having an open wound? I never have experienced any pain that would force me give in, maybe tooth ache. Surely people are not bitching like a little girl, right?
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Anyone else paranoid about discussing streaks here? I feel like maybe if you do that makes you an even bigger target to psychic attacks. As well all know pretty much all women despise this practice because they lose control over men that engage in it, so with that being said it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch that some women that lurk here will want you to end your streak and do a psychic attack on you.
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Day 16 of no ejaculation, no edging, no porn.
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>>42042135
Hmm, I am not so sure about it. It's a double edged sword I guess. On hand it might inspire others, but at the same time it might be seen as a taunt the way you describe it. In the latter case it can be a test of strenght so it's up to you to tell whether you are ready.
I am only on 11 or so days myself, but am still proud of it since before I could not even make it past day 4.
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nice trips and well dne
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>>42042446
I love it when the Catholic Church actually backs this chart.
So we believe there are merits these are gifts given by God for meritorious acts and so on. The longer you stay in grace the more pronounced these become.
However when you fall out of Grace by Masturbation or some other form of spiritual Masturbation take your pick. You sever the connection with God and you lose a lot of the merits and you must restore them. You don't lose them all though.
Say for example you gain the merit to help strengthen your resolve to delete your porn folder and you do so. But when you fall off you build up a new folder when you get healthy again you might retain that grace and have no issue destroying it.
Day 3650 is when you start hearing about people levitating and commanding poisonous cups to shatter.
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i'm not a regular here in the slightest, hell i don't even browse /x/, but i need to thank you for keeping nofap alive
a single day of nofap made my life 10x better, it's like caffeine that lasts all day without any of the downsides or jittering and it's constant throughout the day
you won't hear from me again but thanks for keeping nofap alive bros, wish you the best and i'll stay the course
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I can’t speak for everyone but it hits in waves. I never made it past a month before and after my first month I thought it was all easy street. It hits hard every few months. I also had a period where my dick didn’t work right for a month or two. I thought i’d never get horny/fully hard again but was dead wrong. Right now i’m in a some what easy stage longing for another relationship but something inside is telling me to wait. I can feel the wet dream coming as well no pun intended.
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It's so peaceful after an "urge" wave ended
WAGMI
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I know. I want to be in line with biblical standards, at least I think I do, I think I struggle with a near lifetime of daily+ masturbation coming up against a relatively new belief in God. I managed almost 2 weeks less than a week ago. I managed 230 days a couple of years ago. I can only blame the Abilify so much, especially now that I'm no longer taking it.
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Compulsive behaviour is a known side effect of Abilify, also had trouble not stuffing my face on it. I don't find it a coincidence that the 230 days only ended when I ended up back on it, and I only managed longer than 5 days again a few days after I stopped taking it.
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The urge to buy weed is getting stronger. I think the demons know that when sober they cannot really get me directly so they do this roundabout way of getting me to smoke weed which always causes me to relapse. We just gotta get through this full moon bros
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Relapsed on day 12 or 14. Was a semi dirty streak and now back on almost day 2. This time seems different though.
I have been too critical of myself despite how much I have progressed. God doesn't like what im doing and im called to repentance, but it seems like I have completely forgot what that word even means. I have been taking it as being sorry, but its really to turn away from and turn toward God. Got in the trap of turning away from it and relying on my own strength, and focusing on my streak number.
Usually after a relapse im just defeated. I don't want to talk to anyone and I might skip church. This time I was able to speak much more confidently and im getting more involved in my church. Im really hoping this is a fundamental shift in my journey. Im now more aware of my triggers, I know where my strength comes from, I don't have to live in shame, and im starting to feel more like a normal person. Thank you for reading my blogpost
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>she admitted that she felt like something was pulling her toward me
So I have been in the psych ward a few times for bipolar mania and one thing that seems to be a recurring theme is that it seems like a spiritual veil is thinned. I am usually retained for maybe a couple weeks, and I literally pee seminal discharge. Every time I have been admitted, on day one the patients are causing chaos and nobody is friendly to each other. After im there a few days the entire energy shifts and everyone is friends and the new patients that show up dont cause any problems and integrate quickly. People figure out im a faithful Christian. What really stuck out though was one time a schizophrenic lady who was very cold at first was looking at me smiling and she said "stop" and I looked at her and said "what" and she said "you are pulling me towards you"
Maybe im just fucking crazy, but since this is /x my observations so far has been that semen retention and fasting are a discipline that can supercharge your body as a temple of the holy spirit. Its almost like how riots break out because some people see someone smash out a window, but in reverse.
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Why...why does my body pull me towards evil? Why can't i just say: "I won't masturbate today" and then the urge instantly goes away. I'm starting to hate my own body and the fact it constantly rebels against my will
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As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Romans 7:17-25
The solution is to overcome the flesh with the spirit.
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When your dog wants to eat a turd or a candy wrapper covered by ants, you have to do the rational thing and pull it away.
You're a human being, so you're in an awkward position. You're both the dog(animal body) and the owner of the dog(rational mind) at the same time. The dog is just running on biological software that seeks dopamine.
Don't fall into the trap of hating the dog. The dog will always do dog things. The trick isn't to make the dog stop wanting the turd, it’s just outlasting the pull. The rational mind has to catch it in time, pull the leash, and wait for the "trance" to break.
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Made it to day 30 now with no wet dreams and I'm not feeling too much. Maybe my social anxiety is a tiny little bit better but other than that it's not much. I'm still tired most of the time, still have mood swings, still sleep bad and have pretty bad general anxiety. I guess I'll keep going and see
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I relapsed two days ago after nearly two months. Usually, a relapse leads to a month-long binge of porn, weed, cooming and general degeneracy.
This time, however, I managed to get a hold of myself in less than a day and returned to my routine as if nothing happened.
I’ve found that focusing on the streak is less helpful than simply embracing the 'I’m just not a coomer anymore' mentality.
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A long time ago I did SR for mental health purposes, for example to fix anxiety and such things that you mention in your post, and I had exactly the same result: I felt better, but still felt like I had issues
I didn't find a resolution until I did a low oxalate diet (in conjunction with SR), as this stuff can mess your body up. I try not to talk about it much because things can get heated on the internet as people are very defensive over their diet but I just thought I'd share as it helped me. Other high oxalate foods are wheat (grains), chocolate, tea, potatoes and potato products, etc.
In fact, it was my oxalate issues that resulted in "histamine spikes" which resulted in my PMO problem in the first place, as these spikes would cause a tremendous libido surge after meals.
https://sallyknorton.com/oxalate-science/oxalate-basics/
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I appreciate it but I really don't eat any of those things that are listed as having a lot of oxalates, and if so, it's very, very rare and in small amounts. My diet is pretty much already a low oxalate diet without me even realizing it
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Semen retention is especially important during the day. If semen is released during daylight then dopamine tanks. Subsequently activity during the day decreases, and testosterone at night drops. What is the purpose of male orgasm besides reproduction and bonding? When a man looks for a prostitute he seeks neither. His purpose is to Rest, to relax. By simply not masturbating during the day there is already a noticeable difference in the subject's psychology.
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>am seeing NSFW stuff on other boards/tv/movies/internet/movies and having little to no reaction
Me too, i dont feel any energy moving down there, but i still had a wet dream after 6 days despite this so i think it is my diet. I ate processed slop the entire day leading up to the NE so i think that is what caused it.
At least I don't get aroused from nsfw stuff anymore
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I’ve gotten quite good at blurring my own field of vision when necessary. It’s a good practice to avoid all kinds of odd people not just women and lust. Nasty glares as well. With this practice come the evil eyes but if you had to you would absolutely scare the shit out of them as well. It’s just not worth the energy loss
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No homo but as someone who doesn’t coom anymore, unless it’s sexing a woman, which is very rarely, how ungodly is it to have wet dreams and sometimes consoom one’s own bodily fluids? Not in any gay fetishized intent, but moreso the intent of “im tired of wasting these precious bodily fluids”. Am I blocking my higher self by doing this, on one hand it feels very gay (and it is) but on the other these wet dreams are fucking up my spermatogenesis and spiritual progress. I feel like I can’t win
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How do I detach myself from the desire for women? If I choose to do SR, it's true monk mode, because I can't get laid or seduce a woman, it's just not possible for me, or at least astronomically long odds. But I want a wife so badly.
I want practical advice for detachment, not "trust God" because I know I need to trust God and I try my best to, I mean like genuine, tangible, concrete advice for how to stop caring about women. A step-by-step process ideally. More than anything now, I want to just feel free from these desires because I'm utterly obsessive about them and they're torture.
It's been a little over three months since I last fapped (a few wet dreams in that time) and I feel like detachment is within reach now. But I don't know how to achieve it consistently whatsoever.
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Says who?
By what authority?
Were the Apostles, Church Fathers, Early Christians not Christians when they fasted 40 days leading into Easter eventually being formalized in the 3rd Century based on already existing practices?
Was Jesus wrong when he fasted for 40 days?
Who are you to make such bold claims?
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I want both, but particularly a wife -- I have actively refused sex from women the couple of times it's ever been available to me because I'm waiting until marriage, if it's any indication.
Do I enjoy interacting with women? That's a tougher question. I definitely don't start talking to one and look at her and actively think "I hate you," usually I'm happy enough to talk to them, outside of the excitement I feel from trying to impress them or seeing if there's any chance she's attracted to me. But in hindsight, I usually end up thinking there wasn't much value in talking to her, she wasn't particularly intelligent and certainly didn't share my values. Plus, there tends to be this sense of either rejection or that she didn't really think much of me, which compounds my retroactive impulse to say "fuck you, and fuck all women."
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First off I'd say hate is not the route to go since it's negative emotional energy, which is still focusing your energy on women rather than not even considering them. Second, you must realize that most men believe in a constructed fantasy regarding the nature of women that has no basis in reality. When you recognize that the fantasy you desire cannot be fulfilled by real women, you must reconcile with it in some way. You can abandon the fantasy and try to pursue women based on the reality, or you can hold to the fantasy, either trying to hold out for The One that will fulfill this fantasy or giving up on women altogether because you know they can't give you what you desire.
It sounds to me like you're in the camp of wanting that Disney fairy tale marriage and like the idea of having a wife but the reality of the women you're meeting is at odds with your actual desire. There's no right or wrong answer here, every man will have to decide for himself, but do try to discern what it is you actually want out of life and where you can get that from. Try to untangle your own desires from societal pressures to have a romantic relationship and go from there. Since you're on a 3 month streak (good going btw), it sounds like this is the sort of self work God's calling you to right now. Could be this is also just a temporary season to build temperance too.
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Good summary of the situation, I appreciate that a lot. Sometimes having someone lay it all out is grounding for me.
The thing I need to figure out then, is whether "a white woman who will stay with me and have kids with me" falls under the fantastical category of woman at this point, or if that's still something reasonable to hope for. That's truly all I want, and I don't think that should qualify as a fantasy, but I can't be sure it doesn't at this point.
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I have a porn addiction and it is beginning to negatively impact my life. I have tried quitting before. It's just too easy to fall back into it again, and when I do it's usually worse.
What do I do? I hate this. I wish I was doing literally anything besides watching porn.
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>when I do it's usually worse.
This happens when part of you decides to quit porn but you repress the part of you that still wants it. And when a part of you is repressed, it is more animalistic and impulsive, it lives in a part of your mind that is separate from conscious reason. That's why relapses after you decide to quit can be worse than when you were just gooning as usual. What you have to do is deal with your repressed desire, the fact that as long as you keep cooming, you're still the same person who likes porn, as hard as that is to imagine.
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All you have to do is simply not jerk off or watch porn and your life will get better. Just do that and your thoughts will be more positive (remember as above so below, so within so without) your more pure positive thoughts will make your external world more positive and better. This is bringing the kingdom of heaven on Earth! Just do this brothers and ascend.
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43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”
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lol I don't believe this (also Reddit), although there's some good things to take away from this tho
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>I want both, but particularly a wife -
Bruh I can sense your desperation. Relax
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>>42049461
It is in fact a real thing. Whether it is better/worse than nofap physiologically/neurologically is debatable. Certainly it is more risky in terms of relapsing potential.
Maybe the ancient daoists were also coping and I have rediscovered and ancient coping practice. Still I feel like it is better than cooming every day.
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Well shit
Do you think it would help get the ball rolling in the right direction if I do a few days or weeks of limiting myself to one meal a day?
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Some advice from a fellow porn addict is to stop going cold turkey, just cut down to more mild stuff and spend less and less time watching, it really just comes down to willpower, you have to be able to push past the rough days, it's not easy but you have to do it, then it just gets easier and easier.
I used to watch at least an hour of porn pretty much every day before, on really bad periods I'd do nothing but goon all day several days in a row. That was about a month ago, now I spend maybe 15 minutes total every 2-3 day or so, and it's mostly softcore porn or just lewd SFW stuff. It's not perfect but it's a massive difference to how it used to be
Also, if you have porn saved on your computer, don't delete it. For some weird reason this has in the past made me relapse because I keep thinking about what I lost and I start searching for new things or try to recover the things I deleted which sends me straight back into the addiction. Now that I haven't deleted it I know where it all is, nothing is lost but I'm not going to look at it, it just sits there
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>>42049561
This is a huge thing that not many people talk about, the feeling of "missing out on the new content", and unfortunately the nature of it is that the appeal increases the more days of new content you have to "catch up on". It's such an insidious addiction
Like you say, ultimately it comes down to willpower
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>>42049425
>Bruh I can sense your desperation. Relax
Caring less might be the answer for some reason, but fuck yeah I'm desperate, and there shouldn't be any stigma against it. I don't want my bloodline, my entire family, to die with me. It's more pathetic to be complacent about it.
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There's a term people call 'chasing the dragon.' If you don't keep yourself in check, that quick edging session could turn into an addiction where you spend hours edging every day. Just make sure that your energy goes to something that can yield you tangible results, rather than fleeting moments of pleasure
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>What is the purpose of male orgasm besides reproduction and bonding?
Orgasm does not bond, it does the opposite.
Every Orgasm, for him AND for her is a click on the ratchet towards habituation.
Habituation is the end of the excitement / "butterflies" that partners feel for each other. Nature programmed us to get bored of our partners to move on to others and spread our genes.
Even porn addicts are subject to this effect, getting bored of a model they were so enamoured with a couple cummies ago and searching for the next one.
Anons in this thread should read "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow" which explains this in detail and the methods to avoid habituation, as well as methods to increase bonding with your partner.
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No.
Try a basic fast 2 snacks and 1 full meal no bigger then the 2 snacks combined.
What got you here is impulse and being unable to control your impulses. Impulsively fasting isn't going to suddenly fix it so start slow and disciplined.
I suggest abstaining from meat on your fast day as well. You'll understand why when you do this.
The next part sort of depends on you but when you relapse you need to make a choice once you do you are going to do a 24 hour no food fast. Water and Salt is fine.
You'll probably have a showdown with the Father and the Demon I can't help you after that.
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Are bugs related to demons? First I was in a dream where I was in a star-sized spaceship zooming across space and destroying galaxies as I merely flew into them. It was quite a nauseating feeling. Then I woke up while still in dreamland, but this time I was living in a house with someone I used to call a friend. He had flies all over in his room and they landed on my face. I asked him: “How do you live like this?” No response. Woke up immediately after I entered my own room again. I had a raging hars boner, but wasn’t horny at all. All I could think of was the image some anon posted of a looshdemon hanging on your genitals. I stood up, walked around and hoped the boner to calm down. Only until I found a small insect on the wall near my pillow just sitting there and suddenly it started moving as I approached it. Flicked it dead with my finger and I kid you not, the boner immediately faded.
Once again, are demons related to insects/bugs?
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>day 60 something
>4 wet dreams in the last month
What the FUCK is going on
I’ve gone nofap for at least a month a few times before and never had this much and I’m a 33 year old boomer now, didn’t even peak or fantasize either like the last times, men aren’t supposed to peak in T in their early 30s this is fucked
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Stop obsessing over streak numbers. Resetting your steak because of a wet dream makes it so much more likely that you’ll relapse in the coming days because of the “well I’m only on day 1 anyways…” mentality.
Try your best to forget what day number you’re even on. Regardless, it doesn’t count. You don’t have full knowledge or consent in a dream so it isn’t an act of the will in the same way as a normal relapse is.
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Try Bhakti Yoga for if you dont know where to put your energy. I usually channel from my root chakra - perineum muscle - to the crown chakra - boundless infinite sky - while singing mantra. I also found for me the practice of being in the ocean in a meditative way helps. Barefoot sprints on synthetic turf field also.
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On this weeks edition of how to rope people into one of the retarded religions who're also know as the p@edo cults, do as I say not as I do.
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No it needs to say :Religious faggots including Jews, Christians & Muslims can't keep their hands to themselves.
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Nobody asked we welcome all faiths here. We debate each other with respect acknowledging the other is wrong and going to hell while hammering out the similarities.
Nobody here is evangilizing you are the one who is mad. If someone shows up and gives a speech on how we must call upon a pagan god for help in the matter of purity I would acknowledge they are correct we need supernatural help but it can only come from God and the Intercession of Saint, Angels and the prayers of the living. Then we can debate the rest.
SRG is still good under natural law.
I understand you are low effort baiting but sometimes low effort demands high effort responses.
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Well at least you didn't deny not being able to keep your hands to yourself which is why you need to pray to outdated dogmas & be forgiven over & over again for your vile behaviour by another human that's probably more of a reprobate than you are.
You know you can stop pulling your dick without resorting to religious fairytales right? Or are you replacing one habit for a cult habit??
I'm mad? No if anything I'm amused by the outright indoctrination attached to not jerking off
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Yes yes, tell us more about your retarded parents & how they conditioned you.
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>we don't watch porn and don't coom
>retarded religions
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Right so banishing the thoughts goes well. Not peeking goes great. I find that fighting against the thoughts is a trap. Just accept them and don’t act on them.
Spring has started and these fucking woman and their tight clothes. Fuck them.
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About 1 week now. Almost got me this morning after going at me last night. Jig Saw Puzzles are undefeated in curbing lust.
>Succubus demands sex
>No I am to busy with this jigsaw puzzle now be quiet and watch
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>Indian general
>Christian general
>Jewish general
>Muslim general
Guys, there's no semen retention god. For that we need 4 super semen retainers gather around 1 super semen retainer and channel their transmuted retainer-energy into him. It came to me in a dream.
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>all the hentai I like is being used for AI sexbot ads
They're angry and they're clawing at me.
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its cool to have so many different anons here with their religious backgrounds on semen retention, a lot of christians i see for example, but does anyone here know about the relation of SR and indian magic powers called siddhis? some indian anons here or others that have dabbled in this area?
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90 days and feeling great.
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>>42053111
I'm about to go for a long time without jerking off, because when I jerk off my energy becomes imbalanced and I cannot meditate. It's similar to meat where if I eat meat I can't get to high states of consciousness and compassion.
>Meat -> No Compassion
>Masturbate > No purity
With either of these I can't meditate, my Spirit cannot take my practice seriously when I try
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whats your secret anon? i keep cooming ive detached from everything else nothing has a hold on me except this i manage one or two weeks but my energy changes change my mindset and i end up doing without realizing it my willpower isnt as strong when i start retaining and time goes by. the energy in me is reactive and unstable. how do you manage?
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>>42052477
>Just accept them and don’t act on them.
This is the way. Everybody has to realize that the thoughts are coming from within yourself and we have to accept that and try to change from within. When we "battle" the thoughts we don't realize we're just compartmentalizing ourselves (good me vs bad me), and that leads to repression which is much worse.
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>You know you can stop pulling your dick without resorting to religious fairytales right?
Is that why you keep relapsing? Or is there some other reason? Relying on your own willpower doesn’t seem to be working out very well for you.
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>>42053478
Well I am a Buddhist so I am speaking to your question. Do you know the logical concept of "entailment," and also the difference between necessary and sufficient? If so, you will understand. If you do not understand these concepts I will try later in a different way.
Celibacy is necessary but not sufficient for the Buddha-nature to use siddhi comfortably. Siddhi, charism, or higher cognitive powers entail celibacy, but celibacy doesn't magically make you a wizard.
On the other side, some Christians think if you jerk off you'll be damned. Sentient beings at the moderate to higher stages do not perform actions for merit, heaven, or fear of hell.
People who don't sin simply don't masturbate, because it entails a disturbance of the higher cognitive faculties. In fact, if a masturbator gets damned, it stands to reason that this would be cause he lies, cheats, or steals, and not necessarily because he masturbated.
If you meditate on this for a few minutes you will understand siddhi.
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>>42054653
But if you follow the logic (modus tollens vs. Modus ponens), you will see this very clearly.
>Modus ponens (P>Q)
If you masturbate (P), then you won't have comfortable siddhi (Q).
>Modus tollens (~Q>~P)
If you are comfortable with siddhis (~Q), then you don't masturbate (~P).
>FALSE modus tollens (~P>~Q)
It is not the case that if you don't masturbate
Everyone who thinks you achieve siddhis from not masturbating is using ~P>~Q
But ~(~P>~Q)
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>>42052607
>Jewish, Muslim & Christian Pedophiles.
What am I going to do about it? Keep calling out these retards preying on the weak minded by trying to indoctrinate them into said cults.
>>42054556
Lucky for me I'm responsible for my own actions & don't need to be forgiven by an imaginary friend. Sounds like you're too afraid of living & need to belong.
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>>42054706
> Lucky for me I'm responsible for my own actions & don't need to be forgiven by an imaginary friend. Sounds like you're too afraid of living & need to belong.
Is that why your life is miserable? Or is there some other reason? You’re a slave to sin and you’ll never obtain freedom by your own willpower. Feel free to keep trying the same things that clearly aren’t working though. Maybe after you bash your skull into a brick wall enough times you’ll realize that there’s a better way.
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>>42054736
Sounds like you're giving me a description of your life, miserable, a slave to sin who'll never obtain freedom by your own willpower because you've probably been brainwashed since you were a child.
Feel free to keep on with the children's fairytales though, which clearly aren't working. Maybe after you've bashed someone's skull in you'll realise that anyone with half a brain won't forgive you no matter how hard you pray.
Tell us more anon.
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>>42054857
I have a sneaking suspicion the majority of religious retards are spiritually bankrupt to begin with, hence the reason why they need to get closer to one of their cut price gods so they can continue to do stupid shit like pulling themselves over & over again only to be forgiven over & over again.
Where's the personal accountability?
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>>42049660
I haven't read a full book in over 15 years, let alone a single chapter. I read almost 3/4 of this fucking book in one sitting last night. VERY valuable information here. Even if you aren't in a relationship this is a very good read, and I also learned something unrelated to the topic... Anons, If you're having trouble fighting the urges, READ A FUCKING BOOK. My urges vanished. Thanks for getting me back into reading anon. God bless.
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>>42055008
Ah yes, that old chestnut of them being on a higher path than I am & i'm supposed to be mad lol.
I like how you're larping like a unreligious fag & think you're hiding in plain sight & all, but it's easy to recognise your bullshit.
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>>42055534
Quit shitting up the thread you fucking retards. It's pathetic how people like you feel the need to have the last word in online arguments. What a waste.
>>42049660
Almost finished reading this masterpiece. Anyone else have any books for me to read more so on the topic of semen retention itself?
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>>42055625
I haven't read this but Yash (Spiritual Renaissance @ YouTube) has released a book on SR. He has been a great teacher over the years.
Picrel: Table of Contents
Book is here :
https://sites.google.com/view/spiritual-renaissance/books/the-unspeaka ble-power-of-semen-retention
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Day -1
I relapsed today, but... I have been managing to get both my desires and my "mind" to get along like one anon recommended and its getting a bit easier, I can notice the difference when relapsing and when out of it for a few days, and I can say this
I have been harsh on myself, porn is not bad I like it, but what's bad is that I'm letting it swallow me and consume me, I just... Don't want to keep hurting myself, in the long run I feel like this will bite me in the ass in the future, so since I'm overly cautious and I feel sorry for treating myself badly I'll stop, I won't quit, I won't shame myself, I won't force myself... I guess I want to do myself better, but I guess I'll relapse when things get TOO heavy for me since I haven't found a good and healthy release, but the other days? I choose myself, thanks /srg/
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>>42055982
>possessed
There isn't a better word you could use to describe that feeling. I dusted off the old VR headset, and boy, was that a mistake. Luckily I realized how bad it was after a few sessions and thus, I'm back here. I'm really going to try and have an entirely clean month of March.
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>>42056053
Fair enough. I don't know any other books on SR.
All of his stuff is free on his YouTube channel anyway:
"Lust Is The Matrix's Power Source"
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=ldkGBIrEVew
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>>42037936
Tommy you better delete that fucking shit man.
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>>42054645
ok thanks, i guess i get it
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>>42045597
>describes in detail how he is annoyed by girl following him everywhere trying to get attention
>later says he didn't even notice her until she stepped on his shoes
You guys really need to get better at detecting lies/inconsistencies.
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>>42055170
I can think of one thing
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>>42053480
Well there's no secret method, I simply brute force through it.
I guess the only advice that helps is the one that had been said in all /srg/; start small and progress slowly, if you fail don't be discourage just start again.
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>>42055625
Only tangentially related, but If you like to be challenged, read "Sadly, porn". It's hard to describe what the author wants, the book forces you to come up with your own interpretation. If you Google around you should be able to pirate it. Read the disclaimer with footnotes at the start to see if it is something you like. Yes the book starts with a disclaimer lol.
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