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Basbo edition
>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/
>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d
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Did he leave?
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>>247086
>Also his last name is Terunofuji's first name... for what it's worth.
Mongolians go by patrynomics or more rarely clan names, so this isn't uncommon. They also have Asian name order, so the given name is second.
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Mongolian names are weird because they have Asian name order, but patrynoms instead of a surnames, and a person will mostly be referred to by their given name. So for example if you were a Mongolian in Mongolia and happened to run into Kotokenryu, you'd refer to him as Mr. Bilguun, not Mr. Gantulga, and the patrynom would only be used in addition if you needed to distinguish him from someone else whose name was also Bilguun. So chances are someone on sumodb or whoever they sourced it from heard Terunofuji referred to as just "Gan-erdene" and never corrected it later.
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They're not even located in Tokyo, not as far out as Kisenosato's stable, but they are over in Chiba prefecture. Additionally they've only had three tsukidashi in their entire history from what I've seen, with the most recent being Kotomitsuki who debuted in 1999, so it might be a personal preference through the stable's history to primarily recruit kids out of high school who start from scratch. They have an above average number of guys on the banzuke and 6 elders, so it's not like they're Tamawashi's stable where it's just three guys.
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Sumo stable power rankings based on data from the recent banzuke as well as my own prejudices
1. Isegahama - 5 maegashira, 1 juryo, 4 makushita joi
2. Kise - 3 maegashira, 3 juryo, 2 makushita joi
3. Nishonoseki - 1 dai yokozuna, 1 shirokuma, 1 makushia joi
4. Sadogatake - 1 ozeki, 1 maegashira, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi
5. Tatsunami - 1 west yokozuna, ass end maegashira, 3 makushita joi
6. Oitekaze 2 maegashira, 2 juryo including 1e, 2 makushita joi (formerly 3)
7. Arashio - 2 maegashira, 2 juryo
8. Ajigawa - 1 prospective ozeki
9. Sakaigawa - 2 maegashira, 1 juryo
10. Naruto - 2 maegashira
11. Tokitsukaze - 2 maegashira, 1 makushita joi
12. Takadagawa - 2 maegashira, 2 juryo, 1 makushita joi
13. Otake - 1 sekiwake, 1 makushita joi
14. Tokiwayama - 1 komusibi, juryo 14w, makushita 1e
15. Nakamura - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi
16. Isenoumi - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi
17. Kataonami - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo
18. Futagoyama - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo
19. Tagonoura - Takayasu
20. Otowayama - KiriSHITma
21. Takasago - 1 maegashira, 3 juryo
22. Onomatsu - Onokatsu
23. Shikoroyama - Abi
24. Hanaregoma - Ichiyamamoto, 1 makushita joi
25. Ikazuchi - Shishi
26. Dewanoumi - Mitakeumi, 1 makushita joi
27. Takekuma - Gonoyama
28. Kokonoe - Chiyoshoma & Chiyomaru
29. Fujishima - 2 juryo, 1 makushita joi
30. Tamanoi - 2 juryo, 1 makushita joi
31. Kasugano - Meanface & Tochimusashi
32. Oshiogawa - 1 juryo
33. Hakkaku - 1 juryo
34. Oshima - 1 makushita joi
35. Onoe - 1 makushita joi
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>>247101
Dai isn't about career totals, its about being dominant. If Hakuho has only managed 10 wins in he lengthy career nobody would consider him dai.
Teru's claim to dai has more to do with that stretch in 2020-21 where he managed 5 wins & 3 JYs in a year and a half than it does with his total of 10 Ys.
Similarly Onosato put up 5 Ys & 2 JYs in a 9 basho stretch, he is dai, he has been head and shoulders above all other competitors for the past 18 months, only difference between him and Teru is Teru's claim is weak because his period of domination was short while Onosato looks like he could last for many more years being the favorite to win in every basho.
It'll only be about another year before people will start to complain about him winning all the time making the sport boring.
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When you remember that Nephew's November 2024 basho was considered a yusho equivalent, it's crazy that every basho going back to May 2024 has been yusho'd by a Yokozuna.
OH WAIT, SORRY, I FORGOT, FUCKING KOTOSHOHO HAD TO RUIN EVERYTHING
HOW
HOW ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL DID EVERYONE HAVE TO BE
HE EVEN BROKE THE RECORD FOR LOWEST RANKED RIKISHI TO GET A KINBOSHI
GOD
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i'm fri*king excited for the next basho! :D
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cmon dan!
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>>247224
Pretty sure they're set in stone the moment the banzuke comes out but I can't remember how it's done. Something about the highest ranked guy fights the lowest Sanyaku, then it's worked out downwards. You could probably look at the day one matches from September, see what ranks fought what, and copy paste it to this basho since the Sanyaku is the same size.
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How many wins do you think Dan will get this time around?
11 or a different number?
This is Dan's 3rd basho in the upper section of the banzuke so the guys he is competing with must be starting to get familiar with his game and him with theirs, will that make a difference or are we looking at 11 again?
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>>247234
>Losing to 4 shitters
>Ozeki
Nah. What's dumb is that an 11-4 would put him at 33 wins. Meanwhile Onosato got Ozeki on 34 but because of how things fell he had two yusho in that. Dan could realistically get to 35 wins with a 13-2 and still not get a single yusho.
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Chris seems to be putting together pre-made, almost completed obituaries for guys who are nearing the end of their careers, ones that can be quickly updated and published as soon as the retirement announcement comes along, first Tamawashi and now Takayasu, I guess we'll be seeing Ryuden soon too, along with Shodai, Mitakeumi, Kagayaki, Sadnoumi…
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https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/11/06/kiji/20251106s000050 00230000c.html
Zak is in
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Onosato zensho yusho incoming
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>>247251
Nah
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>>247233
Dan comes back substantially larger and stronger every basho, so anyone who considers themselves "familiar with his game" is in for a surprise.
Remember Dan's first contest with Zak, Dan trying and failing to shove the big guy's enormous bulk out of the ring, but the next time Dan faced off with Zak, Dan was capable of handling all that mass.
So Dan should be able to beat Onosato this time around, their last contest was pretty much just a slipitoshi loss, not really an overwhelming victory by Onosato, I see Dan beating him this time,
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>>247257
Say that to my face, motherfucker!
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Odds are up for the 'sho
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>>247268
>onosato won 3 of the last 4 bashos
>odds only slightly higher than a guy who has won none of the past 4 and is averaging less than 8 wins over that span
there are definitely a lot of questionable calls within the initial odds, normally the gamblers end up correcting that and the odd shift on early wagering, but i doubt sumo gets enough bets placed for that to happen much in a western sports book
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>>247271
Bookies need bets to cover the winners and make money.
The question they ask is: what odds are going to get someone to make this bet?
That's what they're trying to get. Not the most scientifically accurate odds.
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>>247271
I like how you excluded Hoshoryu's yokozuna run to make him look as bad as possible. In reality you Onosato has won 3 of the last 6 while Hoshoryu has won 1 and got a yusho equivalent in another. And to be quite desu with you Hoshoryu's performance last basho would've been considered a yusho equivalent for a yokozuna run too. That's 3 "yusho" for Hosh in the last 6 basho.
Also if we exclude Hoshoryu's injury bashos as yokozuna he's averaged 12.5 wins per basho while Onosato has averaged 12. Hoshoryu IS only marginally behind Onosato to win the yusho. Don't forget that September went to a playoff which went to a monoii (see: based Kakuryu).
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THAT'S what he find humiliating?
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Yikes
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>>247288
All that translation was saying was that Dan's 33 wins over 3 tournaments following September didn't count because his rank for Natsu was too low, which everyone except total noobs already knew.
Don't take a translation that renders his name as "Yasuseinishiki" too literally, if you want to understand whats going on you will need better translation software or learn to read and comprehend Japanese.
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So the bit where it specifically says "a significantly stronger performance will be required to be promoted after the Kyushu Tournament." is actually referring to the September tournament? Is that what you're tying to tell me?
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O_O
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/sumo_preview/
grand sumo preview has arrived
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>>247266
20:1 on WMH is a fucking disgrace considering he's the only one on that list to have never contended a yusho. Hell I don't even think he's been close. His only time over 10 wins was an 11-4 in March 2023, and he's never started a basho hot enough for anyone to say he's in the runnings. Not even close.
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Digits names my band.
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Why is Meisei kyūjō?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yScA4aT1OIU
Some open training video from a couple hours ago.
Im fairly new to this. Is there a name for the practice exercise they do after the practice bouts?
A rikishi pushes another a few times across the dohyo and then the pushed rikishi switches places and "beats" the one that was resisting who falls and does a small flip on the ground
It seemed more perfromative (even the pushing) than real training.
Seen in that video at the 6 minutes mark
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>>247353
>It's not performative, it's actually the hardest thing they do.
i see
yeah i might have judged it too fast, at 11 minutes or so they just put a dude through the fucking ringer
dude was dying on his feet after every "round" for lack of a better word and they had him keep going
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>>247354
(me)
Google butsukari, get picrel
Okay i guess ill search for butsukari-geiko
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>>247354
With butsukari-geiko, the man being pushed decides how hard he's going to resist you. Shoving a 300 or 400 pound man across the ring is hard enough if he's a ragdoll, it's a lot like the charging practice American footballers do. However, if the man knows your strengths and weaknesses intimately and knows exactly how to make you struggle more, it can become extremely difficult. It also functions like a drop set in weightlifting, as you get more and more exhausted he can reduce the resistance so it never becomes impossible, but always stays at the edge of what you can endure. You also have to do it at the end of your grueling training session, first thing in the morning before you've had anything to eat. It's not just the hardest thing they do, it's possibly the hardest form of routine training done in any sport.
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Kirishima is looking really solid, I would bet on him doing his now normal yoyoing of shit basho into good one. I think he's getting 10 wins minimum. Daiesho is probably going to 9-6 and 8-7 his way back up until he hits his new ceiling with the top of maegashira being more crowded with talent than they used to.
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>>247358
Yeah i just watched the vid of the post above yours too
I guess that the times i had seen it before it wasn't super serious and it was only a couple "rounds" before moving to another wrestler
But seriously the poor dude on the vid i first posted... holy fuck
Same with Terunofuji in that other video, they really get tested.
Is as you put it even if the dude just "stands" there and glides you are still pushing 300pounts the moment he digs the hell in....
Well thats what i come to this thread for, im learning a bunch of shit
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>>247350
If Zak ends up kabob& then that increased Dan's promotion chances substantially, the bosses don't like empty slots at the upper end of the banzuke, they think they sell more tickets, merch, etc. if they have more guys at the top ranks
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torikumis have arrived
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>>247373
I don't even believe that myth about people caring if ozekis are on the banzuke or not. Ozekis are only especially interesting if they're at risk of demotion or if they won the previous basho, nobody is on the edge of their seat wondering if the ozeki will clear 10 wins
But the pro journalists repeat the empty slot stuff all the time so it seems like its a thing. And the JSA definitely gives out promotions on weak and not-quite qualifying scores when they have empty slots to fill, we all just saw it happen with Hosh, so you should expect to see Dan promoted on any double digit score, especially if Zak ends up with less than 8 wins
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>>247378
They were right when they said Hosh was up for promotion due to the empty yokozuna slot even though his previous basho was only a JY, that was the last time they made the claim and they were correct so its safe to presume they know what they're saying now
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Dan keeps on getting bulkier and bulkier, but he doesn't grow tiddies so you know that his added weight is all muscle. Eventually he is going to get strong enough to overpower Onosato, its only a matter of time.
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>>247379
Hosh and Zak were both up for yokozuna at the same time. Had they both gotten it and Teru not retired, we would've had 3 yokozuna, meaning there still would've been an odd number. Neither were up for yokozuna solely because of an "empty yokozuna slot" because that is not a concept that actually exists.
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The exact rank is rarely important when it's the person at the bottom of the banzuke, and mostly comes up when they do stuff like Shishi where he got a 7-8 so they technically lowered him a rank on paper without demoting him to juryo because nobody else from juryo deserved the promotion.
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>>247396
>reeeee what i say is extra important because i used capslock
yelling or the equivalent only works in face to face confrontations because of the implied threat of violent chimpouts in the case that the yeller isn't appeased.
since 4chan does not meet the "face to face" condition needed, your implied yelling carried no weight here, punch a wall, throw your phone out the window, or whatever. we don't care, can't hurt us.
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>>247389
even that doesn't look too reliable a precedent in the context of being a year after the Osaka Sumo merger
if sumodb has the correct data the guy was being bounced up and down by all the rank adjustments and readjustments
eg J3 to Ms7 on a winning record in 1927
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>>247386
No he won't lmao. Not only would the JSA never do that but lately they've shown a willingness to give rikishi with terrible scores a softer landing. Daieisho only landed at M10 with his 0-0-15 from S1e, and Gonoyama only went -10 on his 1-14. A kyujo M18e would probably land at J10.
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>>247410
KiriSHITma is over it and won't achieve anything for the rest of his career, and Oho just isn't ready for it. If Oho can find Sanyaku consistency I'd be fine with him getting a yusho a couple basho from now, but I wanna see consecutive double digits from him before that point.
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>>247406
he lost half of his last 10 openers
>this loss doesn't count because reasons, he had a doctor's note an sheeeiiit
what about when he won on opening day and then quit the basho, how come you count that one and not the loss?
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Does anyone here play the Sumo Orical card app? I'm desperate for the Oho code. I hope to Christ Oho can keep his sanyaku ranking. Can't download the app in my region to get the code unfortunately. If anyone has the Grand Sumo app can you let me know what it says on the banner?
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>>247424
Shishi is no longer a 400 pounder's legs topped by a 200 pounder's torso, his upper body has filled out and isn't hilariously disproportionate anymore
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someone on the nhk show mentioned takakeisho's skills as a coach showing through in takanosho's performance so I looked up the records of the rest of the stable and it seems like takakeisho might really have strong skills in that area, nearly all the lower rankers put up 6-1s or 5-2 except the guy who kyujo'd and the jonidan guy who lost to koga. 5 out of 5 KKs in makushita and higher.
Tokiwayama moved up a bunch in the stable power ranking too
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>>247435
Rumour has it that Takanosho picked up some ACL damage and isn't going to fare too well this basho. Also Takakeisho simply joining a stable as a trainer would likely inspire any bunch of fatsos to work harder. And lets not act like Takanosho doesn't sometimes spike basho really hard. He beat Teru once last July then came close in the playoff.
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>>247352
>Is there a name for the practice exercise they do after the practice bouts?
butsukari keiko
>It seemed more perfromative (even the pushing) than real training
Depends on the context. During tours or shows, it's definitely more performative. But in serious practice sessions, it's like doing weighted sled pushes after you did dozens of rounds of sparring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy8k2UQSVSM
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>>247435
If you watch him on commentary or in shows like Dosukoi Sumo Salon, he's actually pretty eloquent and sharp. Hard to imagine if you've only seen him in run-over toad mode.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/5001458/
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sumo is back tonight
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>>247518
Your boy's a one-trick pony. Cope.
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ITS TIME YOU SON OF BITCHES
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR FUCKING MOUTH IS
IS DAN THE MAN GETTING OZEKI?
OF COURSE HE IS, ON HIS WAY TO BECOMING YOKOZUNA
NOBODY CAN STOP THE UKRAINIAN BLUE WHIRLWIND OF FURY
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>>247522
You are only pointing out your own limited understanding of the sport and relative newfaggyness.
>tips fedora because I appreciate this sport on a deeper level than you ever could
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>>247522
oh no no no
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>>247531
See, this goes back to >>247518
Not everyone here has negative feelings and reactions towards everyone and everything around them. But /sp/ especially has the stigma of you must absolutely fucking shit on everything and everyone possible. Anything posted in a positive light has to be derided for the lulz, because appreciating something on a deeper level and trying to understand how they got there is cringe.
When I was new to sumo I greatly disliked Takakeisho, for how he looked, moved, and "simple" style. I grew an appreciation for his sumo over time. The timing, pinpoint thrusts and overall movement were sublime the few times he was healthy. His ability to stand people up and knock them back was wild. There is a reason Daieisho and Takanosho both respect the man. With similar styles, and arguably better bodies for sumo, they have been beaten by the hamster.
Anyways, If I was going to simp for anyone it would be Kiribayama.
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>>247541
Make one, and I will.
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>SAY
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>NAME
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It is presently early Sunday morning in Japan, the cool wrestlers, Ryuden, Asanoymama, Abi and the rest of their gang and presently in Da Club chilling with their Kyushu hoes and drinking champagne while their nerd sissy opening day opponents are "getting a good night's rest" before eventually losing to the chads.
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Oh fuck I only just realised, I'm off work today so can actually watch the entire first day. I'm a Britbong but working night shifts in the run up to Christmas so this works perfectly. Gonna go get a crate of lager so I can watch fatslap with my friends on 4chan.
Also I never did get around to making that bingo. I format my computer and forgot to save the list somewhere. Maybe I'll quickly go back through the threads, I posted most of the things I put in it.
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JSA reports that Kyushu ticket sales are the best they've been so far this century and advertising banner sales are better than they've ever been before. This is a big boost to the reputation of Kaio who is the regional director for the Kyushu basho and is considered the favorite to be the next JSA boss
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnz0VyIMC3o
Latest Takasago slop features Chiyoshoma and Hoshoryu, and includes multiple bouts between Hoshoryu and Asanoyama who admittedly by that point was probably a bit tuckered out from earlier fights. It's noteworthy that Hoshoryu specifically calls out Asanoyama when Asakoryu is right there.
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Okay thats not happening then
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>Day 1 is hard
Whos predicting drama this time?
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https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/11/08/articles/20251108s00 005000171000c.html
horseryu is now trying to claim he didn't win the last basho because he was injured and had a bad back.
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>>247578
imagine your in the front row and zak or onosato or dan throws horseryu out of the ring and he lands on you and that diseased pox filth part of his leg touches you. I'd probably start vomiting right on the spot
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I don't know why you need him to tell you that.
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>>247596
This is from 2017 but the times have been the same. Day 15 starts early because they have a bunch of presentations and speeches to do. All times are Japan time of course.
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Best case scenario for the rest of Roga's career is that he keeps injuries at a minimum like he has been and just lives in lower makuuchi for a decade. It was beautiful seeing him close on his 8-7 after hitting 8-4 a couple days ago.
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Best year of sumo since 2021. Next year will be exciting with the likes of Goshima, Kazuma, and Asahifuji making it into makuuchi, while a lot of old veterans fall off the banzuke.
I predict no Yokozuna or Ozeki promotions in 2026. Onosato will dominate, some of the newcomers will win one cup, and Hoshoryu will not win his first basho as a Yokozuna.
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>Aonishiki, listen
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>I'm going to fall without resisting...
>But, Kotozakura, your knees...!
>Shut up, kid. Only you can stop that horse-fucking mongoloid son of a bitch from winning this tournament. I'm putting all my hopes on you...
>Tetas Cuatro-seki...
>You're a real Ozeki... AAAAAAIIEEEEEEE!!!
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Few pages after this
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Hosh will hopefully be using the upcoming tour to get some more ring time with Aoni.
He has to figure something out in the pre-belt part of the grapple, because he is getting beat in one of the places that he is usually the best at.
I don't think we will be seeing the Asashoryu style of showing up at the stable of wrestlers who he lost to in the last basho, and beating the shit out of them to form a game plan for next basho and intimidate.
Terunofuji definitely employed the tours to call out his weak matchups to learn, and with Onosato out this is the perfect time to leverage that privilege.
Dropping important matches in the first couple days and then throwing dudes is pretty classic Hoshoryu though, and it was good to see him still able to employ his style on almost everyone except Aoni.
Actually same with Kirishima, his scrap to get to the front of the mawashi and force out style looks like it's coming back nicely.
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>>248453
>one of the places that he is usually the best at…
…against japs who don't have a western wrestling background. And Hosh's lanky physique gives away a lot of advantage against Dan's higher density and lower CG. Hosh needs to get himself into the kind of shape uncle was in, his workout routine is weak. We've all seen him in the Tastunami training videos standing around doing little to nothing in morning practice, just wasting time. Sure he goes to a trainer later in the day, but that doesn't give him an excuse to waste morning practice.
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>>248454
Would you like to discuss this or push your theories and meme?
Honestly the worst part about the current slop era is it gives poster like you something to point at when it fits their chosen narrative.
Power is not Hoshoryu's problem against Aonishiki and I no longer know why I'm replying seriously to you.
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Horseryu finally broke his silence spoke briefly to the press
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/11/24/articles/20251123s00 005000418000c.html
豊昇龍は先場所に次いでまたも決定戦で敗戦。安青錦とは前日含め初対戦から4連敗で、苦手意識は払拭できなかった。
横綱に昇進して5場所で優勝なし。支度部屋で一度は取材を断ったものの、帰り道では「来場所、リベンジだ。まあ、悔しいからね。これ以上は嫌だな」と 本音を漏らした。
大の里の突然の休場で本割は不戦となり、決定戦ではスタミナを温存できる有利な状況だったが「あれで体が冷めた」と準備期間が長かったことがアダにな った。
Horseryu spoke to the media after his loss in the Kyushu basho makuuchi playoff. Including the day before, this was his fourth consecutive loss to Aonishiki, and he was unable to shake off the feeling that Aonishiki was superior to him.
Since being promoted to yokozuna, Horseryu has yet to win a tournament. He initially declined interview requests in the dressing room, but on the way home he let slip his true feelings, saying, "Next tournament, I'll get my revenge. Its vexing. I don't want it to say more than this."
Due to Onosato's forfeit, Horseryu was put in the advantageous position of conserving his stamina for the playoff match, but the long preparation period proved to be a disadvantage, as he said, "My body cooled down."
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>>248494
>Dan can't win a yusho without beating Onosato!
Uhhh didn't he literally just do that? Lmao what the fuck crack are you smoking? Also Dan won that match but the nearest shinpans were likely Kisenosato was biased, and Futagoyama who was drunk.
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>>248498
Sato's left foot rolled over well before Dan left the ring. If Dan hadn't won the cup you could argue I was coping, but there's no reason for me to do that here. Dan beat Sato but the judges were too shit to notice it.
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>>248494
Being able to beat 'Sato will make things much easier on him, but it's not an explicit requirement. It is the random odd loss or now even getting henka'd that will stand in the way of things.
Naturally there's also avoiding career altering injuries but those go without saying, and besides diving a few times he's stayed clear of those pretty well.
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Anyone do better than 13th? ;)
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>>248500
You are coping about him never beating Onosato. As is the other guy who has imagined that Aonishiki getting yokozuna with Onosato out injured, without ever beating him, would make the latter look like a "chump" somehow.
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>>248531
Niggatame is coming back next basho. He is going to climb to Makuuchi by the end of next year.
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>>248536
Elder stock needing a minimum of 5 years combined at sekitori (for those without higher levels of performance) is for that exact reason. If he makes that 30th basho at juryo, then he'll have spent 5 years as a salaried wrestler and can impart that life experience on wrestlers he coaches.
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>>248528
No he's not. Shishi will always overshadow Aonishiki in my eyes, he makes me feel represented as a retard I mean as a white person.
>>248534
Nabatame is the next yokozuna. Mita and Nobehara will be his tsuyuharai and tachimochi, tsukebito Koga will stand and watch from the hanamichi during his pre-bout ritual.
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>>248547
Nabatame's corner routine will involve smacking his belt as hard as he can, and Koga in the tunnel will get involved in the routine by cowering down to remind Nabatame of the vicious beatings he gives Koga every time he fucks up cooking.
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Ajigawa's status as genius coach confirmed by the fact that everyone in his stable KK'd except the one guy who can't make it out of jonokuchi.
Dan's win should turn Ajigawa into a recruiting magnet, they'll have the pick of the litter amongst this year's class of graduates - and just in time for March debuts.
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>Wait so Oho's stablemaster is a fucking Juryo pleb? No wonder he hasn't reached Yokozuna yet.
Yeah, he forgot to put any points into background.
So despite having the ideal sumo physique and genes, he’s still been playing on hard mode.
He spent the first part of his career in Covid lockdown so he had no one to train against as a young kid.
He’s basically been doing his whole career single handed.
Imagine how good he could have been if he’d gone to a real stable?
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>>248574
He looks a little like young Takayasu.
Dan cracked up the press at his press conference:
>Press: What are you going to eat today?
>Dan: I'll think about that after I've had some ramen
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absolute waste of good genes right there, 3 bros and only Oho made it to sekiwake, mudoho shat the bed when he finally reached juryou and is now falling in makushita and the oldest bro is similar to wakatakamoto, eternal makushitter.
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Ichiyamamoto visits London zoo and a London sumo club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49_82OLeuug
With AI translation and voice over
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Of the 7 others who debuted at ozeki before their 22nd birthday, All of them eventually made yokozuna.
And the list includes Takanohana, Taiho, Kitanoumi, Hakuho, Asashoryu
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I'll tell you one thing, and I'm not ashamed to say it. My estimation of Onosato Daiki as a Yokozuna just fucking plummeted.
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Kisenosato published an article deeply criticizing HorseSHITryu's approach, including his tachiai and weak training routine:
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/11/25/articles/20251125s00 005000032000c.html
The final tournament of the year saw Aonishiki's stability stand out. He will surely get stronger, and if he can increase his weight, the range and enjoyment of his sumo will expand. Meanwhile, the issues facing both the East and West Yokozuna for the future were brought to light.
Hoshoryu suffered consecutive losses to Aonishiki in the final bout and the playoff. In both matches, he showed no strong points, even suggesting a gap in power. Despite desperately thrusting, his opponent slipped underneath and countered him. He was attacked almost like a "Tsume Shogi" (checkmate) puzzle with no attacking moves left. Nothing came out of him. His tachi-ai style, which involves just lightly tapping and standing up, gives a light impression without applying pressure. I believe he should reconsider it.
I, too, once had a three-match losing streak against Terunofuji, but I improved my strength by studying my opponent and reviewing my own style. For Hoshoryu, being defeated to this extent may be a chance to change significantly. Since he has high abilities, he should be able to regain his strength with a single trigger, such as correcting his form or his tachi-ai.
Onosato injured himself because he was using some part of his body incorrectly. His own body taught him that reality. How he accepts this reality and uses it for the future is key. During this tournament, his body seemed to lose mass day by day, and by the final days, he looked thin, with the muscle in his back seeming depleted. He appears to have suffered considerable damage, both physically and mentally. If he doesn't review his physical condition management and daily keiko approach, he will repeat the same mistakes.
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The Yokozuna Deliberation Council has called out Horseryu for his post-bout attack against Takayasu
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/11/25/articles/20251125s00 005000032000c.html
>Regarding Aonishiki, who is certain to be promoted to ozeki, Chairman Oshima Tadamori said, "His determination and hard work are admirable. His hidden fighting spirit is admirable. Considering the current situation in his home country, I have mixed feelings, but I was able to present him with the victory. He has made a great contribution and given hope." Meanwhile, at the Kyushu tournament, Horseryu's attitude on the ring, which sealed the victory in his match against Takayasu on the 12th day, became an issue, but Chairman Oshima explained, "Dignity is important in the sumo world, and it was one of the reasons why the London performance was so popular. There were some comments about Horseryu's attitude, but overall the opinion was that the sumo world as a whole should make an effort to improve the dignity of sumo."
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The next basho results of the others who have started their careers with 3 consecutive yushos.
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The recruitment goes deeper than that. Aminishiki personally took in a war refugee from a distant land who didn't speak even speak his language, and that refugee devoted himself entirely to Japanese culture, language, and sumo, and through his support has accomplished everything he has so far and looks like he might just go even further. It's honestly a beautiful story.
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>>248618
His grandfather didn't get it until he was in his 30s, right? Given his performance and accumulating injuries I don't think it's very likely that Zak will do the same, but I feel like people dont bring up that grandpa was ozeki for a long time.
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Excellent Chris video today, he covers the YDC's pronouncements in detail as well as the many criticisms in Kisenosato's article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5r4W8M4Be8
Kisenosato points out a lot of way that the current yokozunas might still improve their performance, but he completely neglects the possibility that seems more and more likely every basho: Dan is a generational talent or possibly even greater and there no matter how hard they try the current crop of yokozunas will inevitably end up second place to Dan. He isn't shattering all sorts of historical sumo records due luck, Dan's ability is far above anything thats been seen in sumo in ages if not ever before.
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>>248666
dan is good, but we haven't seen him yet fight at ozeki rank a few bashos and people are already making a god out of him. just chill and see how he turns out. Many rikishi looked great, but they could not make it to the top in the end; health and consistency is key for him right now.
fucking cannot wait until january basho:
nepw would like a revenge
onosato will be back healthy
aonishiki as a new ozeki
zak will be healthy hopefully
yoshinofuji would be aiming for sanyaku
asanoyama will be back in makuuchi
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>onosato will be back healthy
if he competes he will still be a little gimpy from the injury and weakened from being restricted from exercise during the recovery period. he could utilize the recovery period to focus on improving his lower body or some other aspect of his game, but a lot of his current approach revolves around using that left arm to block or restrict the other guy's right and he might not be too effective if can't do that.
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>>248409
I think the July 2024 tournament was probably one the best I've seen since I started watching a decade ago. This year had some great stuff right off the rip even with my favorite 4-titted man choking his only chance to get a Yokozuna promotion and now cosigning himself to the slow, agonizing downward spiral of defeat. We're finally gonna get a white dude with the rope, what a time to be alive.
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>>248625
It doesn't matter how long he can hang onto Ozeki with rotating 7-8 and 8-7 scores. The caliber of wrestlers above him is too great and his injuries make victories against wrestlers below him much harder. He's barely hanging onto his peak and it saddens me.
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They got some good ones sometimes
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Keep on seething. March will continue next year.
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>Dan's ability is far above anything thats been seen in sumo in ages if not ever before.
I can hear the squelching noises of that dick sliding in and out of your ass holy shit. Dan is good but comparing him to fucking Hakuho is ridiculous. Even comparing him to the ball of violence that was Asashoryu is beyond stupid. Wait until he gets his 10th yusho within 3 years THEN, MAYBE, just MAYBE, you might be able to make this comment.
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>>248719
Now that I think about it, Hosh actually had the final say in all this year's best basho.
>January
Won it
>May
Wiped his taint on Onosato's zensho rope
>September
In the playoff
>November
In the playoff
He's been the most entertaining rikishi this year even if he only yusho'd in January.
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>>248722
>Now that I think about it, Hosh actually had the final say in all this year's best basho.
This is why the omg he's gonna retire shitposters are so stupid. All the JSA wants is their Yokozuna and Ozeki to stay and have influence in the yusho race as often as possible.
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No one was watching in his "era" because he didn't have one.
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>>248749
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uhhh doomsisters??? why are they happy with hosh???
Also Oshima is the YDC chairman now? Fucking good. He isn't a gaylord with a stick up his ass.
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>>248768
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Remember what a proper yokozuna looked like
it hasn't been that long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8LPfLTRc04
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>I'll show up if I feel like it, or maybe I'll just go on vacation for six months. Thanks for the free money
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This is why I hate you dumb fucks that want to stir shit all the time. You never know what you are talking about.
Onosato has 0 Kinboshi total.
But you know who has 3 Kinboshi from Terunofuji. Tobizaru does.
So shut the fuck up, anything happens in sumo.
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>>248806
I remember all of the anti-Danners repeating that claptrap. Sure is funny how the anti-Danners all seem to have mysteriously disappeared from /sumo/ now that Dan yusho'd and made ozeki. Makes you wonder where they all went
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>>248810
Whats it like being a Dan hater and watching Dan yusho and then get promoted to ozeki and shatter all sorts of long standing sumo records for rapid progression up the banzuke? Must be pretty frustrating for you
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>>248811
Uhhh anon? Kazuma at Ms15 went 7-0. That's basically a lock for Juryo considering his record to this point. Ms15 is the lowest you can be promoted from and he went 7-0. Expect Dewanoryu to be Ms1e next basho while Kazuma is launching fatsos in Juryo.
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Not sure if I read correctly, but there might be a name change on promotion for Kazuma
>Kazuma
>Kaz uma
>uma
You can see why he might want a different name, nobody sane wants syllables that might be affiliated with Horseryu as part of their name
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>>248822
What makes you think anyone would want Yarden even if he was eligible? He doesn't have an extensive amasumo record or other competitive grappling experience. All he has going for him is that he's a fatfuck weeb.
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>>248823
Yarden has proven himself to be able to take on Ms rikishi and do okay. But beyond that it would just be a show of good faith from Kaio as chairman once Hakkaku fucking dies. What's the harm in letting Yarden compete? He's obviously dedicated.
>muh rules
Just change the rules lmao.
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>>248824
Oyakata, who do we recruit: Ghengis Dvashbarat who regularly beats sekitori, or random jew who can do okay against sandamne teenagers?
Face it, the real reason he never made it into sumo isn't because of the age or foreigner limit. It's because he's a can and nobody wanted to invest in some scrub.
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>>248825
Most stables don't have a gaijin iirc. Even then if Kaio were chairman he could just make an exception and let Tatsunami have him.
>nooooo thats against the ruuuuulleeesss!!!
Just change the rules lmao. Yarden has shown nothing but good faith in the face of being shit on by things outside his control.
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>>248826
>things outside his control
He could've come to Japan earlier.
>but muh military service
Clearly not dedicated to sumo if he's going to put it off for 3 years.
>but muh COVID
None of the stables he applied to accepted him. It wasn't like he'd have a guaranteed spot in if COVID didn't happen.
>Most stables don't have a gaijin iirc
That just emphasizes the point that it wasn't foreigner limit, but no stable wanted him.
Seriously you must be a Zionist because nobody else cares as much as this literalwho as you do.
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>>248812
Why do you always ignore the content of posts you reply to? Every time someone corrects shit you made up you default to these console war non sequiturs. I'm not going to hate Aonishiki, no matter how stupid you act.
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Okay so besides the 2 yokozuna and Aonishiki....
Who is the next rikishi to get a yusho?
Nobody in hell thought kotoshoho was gonna do what he did from fucking m15
So who will make it?
If you say Ichiyamamoto you will be laughed at
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I rewatched the final day from NHK broadcast and caught a shimpan showing emotions
>the two fatasses are in a clinch, let me check my notes real quick
>wait shit why is the Ozeki Kotozakura on the floor
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>>248844
He is checking the the time, the Shimpan sitting in that spot acts as time keeper, indicating to the gyoji to proceed with the match or go for another round of salt.
Takamisakari is our autist.
Nicknamed Robocop for his pre-bout ritual when active.
He earned Elder stock and they tried to have him open a stable but he didn't want to.
Love that dude
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>>248843
Shishi will win a surprise yusho in 2027 by somehow managing to exclusively fight matches either fast enough to win by grugpush or slow enough that his brain can catch up and he can actually come up with a plan in his matches.
>also he will be at maegashira 16 or something and have an easy run
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>>248735
Ozeki pride!
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Today we remember Aonishiki's father, who introduced him to the world of sumo: Aoiyama.
Rest in tits...
>SAY
>HIS
>NAME
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>>248843
>who makes sense
probably Kotozakura or Kirishima if the stars align and theyre healthy
>whats actually gonna happen
Kaki/Kazuma/Fujiryoga Takeru-type sansho sweep or randomly guy like Gonoyama or Asakoryu decide to go zensho for 9-10 days at which point there arent enough sanyaku to fight them and they get the yusho at 12-3 or even 11-4
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>>248848
Best shimpan.
>>248857
>If the NSK let in some old jew
As soon as that happens the rules will be rewritten to not only allow, but enforce infinity gaijin, preferably nwordzuchidos. Also to make room for a women's division all time-wasting rituals and backwards traditions will be removed and the bouts will be done one after another without any salt, shiko and staring at each other for minutes. A ring will just be painted on the floor as to cut down on costs and labour, the dohyo matsuri will be replaced with a sacrifice to Moloch. Nakazori will not only apply to the hair, but also the foreskin.
Takerufuji as well as Hiyonoyama and his friends will be used for kapparot and thus never show up again.
>>248860
The one and only time I will say Dan... iel.
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If we ignore his first basho since he got injured, Kazuma's win rate from jonokuchi to sekitori has been 96.4%. He dropped a single bout and climbed 4 divisions in 4 basho. That must be the all-time record, right? Jokoryu did the same thing but his 6-1 came in Makushita so didn't jump straight to sekitori and went 5-2 in that 5th basho.
I swear to god, every basho or two we're getting these utter monsters slaughtering everyone.
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Which one of these would you wear?
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>>248843
The rikishi formerly known as Kusano is who I would pick, he's shown he can beat anyone on any day and with a few more basho under his belt I could see him grabbing the cup for himself. Realistically you're going to have to go 2-1 against the top 3 guys from here on out and I'm not sure many can do that.
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>>248719
September was the best onosato shit on hoshitryu and showed us he’s the fucking man
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>>248903
Thats what a real winner looks like, the one guy who goes through life winning everything and leaving everyone else envious and disappointed in their own mediocrity. You think there 1000 contest so theres enough prizes to go around for everyone, but then one top tier chad comes along and wins all 1000. Thats Dan, thats what he had done all his life and what he will continue to do, he will hog up all the kensho and trophies and accolades for himself and leaved everyone to cope muttering to placations to themselves such as:
>well at least I got this sansho prize, fighting spirit, thats pretty good
>I may not be top dog, but I won double digits
>the people at the supporters club really seem to like me
>I was on the DonDon highlights!! I'm famous and sheeiiitt
While Dan rides away in the parade car with yet another megabux top division yusho overflowing his bank account
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>>248854
>Shlomonojumi
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