Ozeki who have never gone kadoban since July 1969: >Wajima >Kitanoumi >Wakamisugi (Wakanohana) >Chiyonofuji >Takanosato >Onokuni >Kitao (Futahaguro) >Hokutoumi >Asahifuji >Musashimaru >Asashoryu >Kakuryu >Hoshoryu >Onosato
>>258674 Yes, they were not in danger of going kadoban after they became Yokozuna. That list is all the rikishi that did not post a losing record while ranked at Ozeki between July 1969 and now.
>Day 15 >surely it's ogre >first of two that are one ahead loses >second of two that are one ahead loses >Here's how Kazuma can still win He trolled me :(
>>258711 For a while there we could potentially have had Hidenoumi, Wakatakamoto, Mudoho, and Naya. Although Hidenoumi is the only ex-makuuchi in that list and he just retired so it was never gonna happen anyways.
>>258714 Kotakiyama ain't hitting salaried rank. Soma might touch juryo, Shunta's probably got the most potential of the 3 brothers. On a side note Takahara is good but I think he's advancing too fast for his growth, not that it's his fault or anything
>>258824 I think if he someone does 12+ in May, they might give it to him right there. M4 is the absolute bottom of what they consider joi, but importantly he beat both yokozuna and faced one of the ozeki, and the only reason why he didn't face the other is because he was outperforming him in title contention. They'll think highly of that, even at M4.
>>258827 The lowest I'm aware of is M3w but that was 37 wins, though that Sanyaku was one larger than it was when Atamin was so that M3w was more like M4e today. Idk man I can't see it. The discussion begins at 13Y.
It wasn't just him being quirky. If you watched him in his matches, he literally penguin walked multiple rikishi out of the ring just like this. Atamin is fucking powerful.
>258834 >Hosh delivered the kadoban for ultimate justice >right in time for an injury serious enough to prevent a winning record in May Vertical rope run has begun LMAO
>>258848 Man, what a bummer. He’s young so hope is not lost, but still…hopefully it’s not a major fracture and/or like something that permanently affects him.
>me last year >"I like watching Aonishiki fight, but his low style seems to me like he's asking for an injury" >danfag gets mad >he gets injuried You're lucky it's his foot and not his back
>>258817 Watch Chris Sumo's video on the final Hakuho v Terunofuji fight. I still can't believe Hakuho wrote that entire script about his thoughts in that moment for Chris.
>>258818 I like both Ura and Tobi (albeit, both on the losing end, especially Tobi) I noticed that fast pace sumo doesn't work so well further into the tourney, most of their opponents had em locked
>>258866 Nah, they're just broken men. Ura has no knees and would rather do a flip than land on them and that's not a joke, and Tobi is getting on in the years now. He might not have any one stand out injury but he's hurting. Also his brother just went intai so I dunno man I don't think he has long left.
>>258870 >>258872 The actual amount in each envelope physically right now is only 10k yen ($63 right now) due to a scandal involving prize money embezzlement. But each envelope represents 60k yen ($378 each) with the remaining 50k being split between the wrestler's retirement account and bank account after tax deductions.
>>258873 And you get the honour of knowing you helped promote the Hot Staff recruitment agency because they're half the fucking banners. I wish some rich fuck would dump like $20k into banners for his favourite beyaslop channel.
>>258874 If I had money I'd buy every banner and have them put Futagoyama sloppa screencaps on them, just to get rid of soulless garbage like that. Seeing a long line of big pharma pfizer shit back when was grim. >>258875 >implying PS5 has games
>>258881 Futagoyama had an early video with them playing Smash, Nabatame wrecked Denuma but it was more a case of Denuma sucking then Nabatame being good
>>258853 >me last year >"heh this sumo wrestler seems like he would get injured eventually, very unlike most sumo wrestlers" >he gets an injury unrelated to my observations "heh I'm am very smart"
>>258904 It's not nice to bully special needs kids anon. We should talk about more interesting things now. For me, it's manlet power with Fujinokawa and Asakoryu both continuing their rise.
>>258905 I've always said it, manlets are absolute fun to watch. I hope Asa bros reach at least makuuchi joi. Fujinokawa should be able to get to sanyaku eventually.
I was bouncing around wiki and just reading about various rikishi and came across Kaio. Is he the most notorious Ozeki who never make it all the way to Yokozuna due to all the wins and time at that rank? Or was there another that people attach that to?
No one will ever be as gloriously round. I will never forget him tip toeing around the dohyo like a ballerina. Seeing him move so gracefully was always a sight to behold.
>>258921 Yeah. Kaiō is probably the best ōzeki to never make it. Unfortunately, his career coincided with those of Takanohana, Musashimaru, and Asashōryū, as well as fellow great ōzeki Chiyotaikai. With those guys sucking up all the oxygen, he could never quite get over the hump. Then injuries started to pile up and he became one of those guys that spends a few years compiling one 8-7 after another. He didn’t even get a jun-yūshō in the last six or seven years of his career.
In 2004, though, he put together a 13-2Y 12-3JY that opened a lot of conversation about promoting him, especially since that was his fifth cup, but ultimately the YDC decided that the 12-3 wasn’t quite a yūshō equivalent and that was that.
>>258933 Anything posted by a woman on social media is edited/filtered. Also just genetics, look at kinbozan for the other side of the stretch mark scale.
>>258928 You've made up an entire crowd of people that don't exist in your mind and spend hours of your day getting mad about the things that these invisible people did to insult you so that you feel as if you have the right to shitfling.
>>258966 >Is Hoshoryu finished? implying he ever got started. he is a fake yokozuna, he was promoted just to make sure someone was available to do the meme ceremony in london
>>259002 Imagine the lols if Tobi also joins Hidenoumi in the real estate sales business a few years after Hidenoumi gets started in it and then Tobi quickly becomes the superior real estate salesman
>>259008 Tobi without the sumo weight and with a beard is pretty damn handsome as per older photos of him. He could close a deal on a house any day of the week. Not gay but I'd suck his dick.
>>258641 Dan has reached the whaito piggu limit, his frail whitoid body is starting to fail and he'll be put on his place, just like all other caucasoids before him
>>259015 Ozekis get demoted if they fail to get winning records (at least 8 wins per tournament) twice in a row. Kadoban is the state in which they've already gotten a losing record, and would face demotion if they repeat it.
>>259019 Hidenoumi has already proved himself capable of building a highly successful career in about a decade or so, you've only proved yourself capable of building a history of failure in a similar period of time.
Consider this. After a basho, a rikishi can notify the JSA that he chooses to give up one of his kinboshi in return for a guarantee to not be demoted in the resulting banzuke.
>>259035 You would need to give up 55 kinboshi to block a demotion from juryo to makushita, 15 to block a demotion from maegashira to juryo, 20 to block a demotion from komusubi/sekiwake to maegashira, and 35 to block a demotion from ozeki to sekiwake. By comparison the most kinboshi in history is Akinoshima with only 16. Kinboshi are actually irrelevant.
>>259049 I'm talking about how many kinboshi would equal the drop in salary. You need 15 kinboshi in order to equal the pay bonus from going from juryo to maegashira, therefore you would need to give up that many to prevent being sent from maegashira to juryo. Letting them avoid any form of demotion at all with just one kinboshi would be laughably idiotic.
>>259093 This guy is theorizing how Aonishiki lost bouts because of the unbearable pain from his little finger, meanwhile Dan himself denied being injured during the basho and after it ended said he had no idea why he was losing. Sounds like a whole lot of cope and schizo talk.
>>259091 >>勝磨 vs 一意 Kazuma's real name is also Kazuma, he just used his first name for shikona. Wakamiyabi wanted Endo when he joined, but couldn't use it for obvious reasons. Imagine him changing it to Endo now.
>>259120 Eating all that revolting japslop was the big effort. I can see getting fat on real food, but not on all that disgusting rice and fermented rotten estrogen beans. I watched a few of those beyaslop videos and they always ruin the meat dishes by throwing rotten estrogen beans into them.
>>259118 >>259119 >>259120 >>259123 Human metabolism is a crazy thing. Some people just can't put weight on even if they eat a lot, like Enho. Your body doesn't actually have to use the calories you eat, it can just let them pass through. I wonder if studies have been done on the caloric content of shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Taih%C5%8D >Taihō (大鳳; "Great Phoenix") was an aircraft carrier of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II. Possessing heavy belt armor and featuring an armored flight deck (a first for any Japanese aircraft carrier), she represented a major departure from prior Japanese aircraft carrier design and was expected to not only survive multiple bomb, torpedo, or shell hits, but also continue fighting effectively afterwards.
>Built by Kawasaki at Kobe, she was laid down on 10 July 1941, launched almost two years later on 7 April 1943 and finally commissioned on 7 March 1944. She sank on 19 June 1944 during the Battle of the Philippine Sea due to explosions resulting from design flaws and poor damage control after suffering a single torpedo hit from the American submarine USS Albacore.
I'm surprised Taiho used that shikona when the carrier was a bitch who died in one shot.
>>259141 >and poor damage control The Japanese carrier fleet was crippled at the Battle of Midway more so by the loss of human capital than by the loss of four carriers. The bushido code doesn't believe in the "escape and live to fight another day" meme so all the most experienced officers and men ended up going down with their vessels. So Taiho was manned by less than the best the IJN could've otherwise offered.
>>259144 The difference between the meaning of the two kanji that I suspect their identical reading is on account of the Japanese not giving a fuck about the difference between a feng and a peng.
>>259150 It's because those readings were brought to Japan during Japanese cultural exchange with the Tang dynasty, which predates the existence of the Mandarin dialect by around 300 years. The closest present day dialects are Min Chinese, although it's like trying to compare which dialect of Italian is closest to Imperial Latin.
>>259151 The tldr is Japanese is a stupid language whose daytime TV shows have to have words plastered all over the screen to help viewers disambiguate their own native language. I'll call it stupid whenever I feel like and nothing you say will change my mind or make me feel like a fool for doing so.
>>259171 You shouldn't be going backwards in the first place so shouldn't need to get used to it. Plus quite a few injuries happen at the tawara because it's an unusual thing to push against, and putting your legs in unusual positions then pushing really fucking hard is a great way to hurt yourself. Pretty sure Mita's ACL went when he tried resisting at it.
>>259171 Dohyo without straw bales (tawara) are easier/faster to build and maintain. Tawara is packed with dirt/clay and is hard as a rock, falling onto it is quite painful. Also some wrestlers said they broke their toes when it got cought in the tawara. One wrestler (from Kise i believe) had open toe fracture when his toes got cought in the bales.
So when is Futagoyama gonna let Nabatame use the shikona of Miyabiyama? A former Ozeki shikona is just what he needs to bring him strength and good fortune.
>>259188 You give the names of famous rikishi to guys you think can make Yokozuna like Kirishima and Asahifuji, not fucking Juryo salaryman Nabatame. Mita might have gotten if he didn't snap his leg.
Miyabiyama was promoted on 34 wins from Komusubi and only lost Ozeki because of injury. Not repromoting him was a mistake imo. Has he even put a foot out of line as an elder?
>>259200 I am a futagoy stan but takatoriki is still salty that for whatever reason (probably yakuza connections) he did not get booted for the gambling scandal takatoriki got exiled for. He has kept his nose clean since but he was in some shit back in his day.
>>259203 >for whatever reason (probably yakuza connections) [Miyabiyama] did not get booted Kinda the opposite, actually. Takatoriki's bookie was Yakuza and was betting millions with him. Also bear in mind Takatoriki was Otake oyakata at the time, yet he was borrowing money from active Ozeki Kotomitsuki just to keep afloat.
>>259164 >His wins cheered louder than those of most in the top divisions >In response he gave those kind-hearted fans... Kind-hearted fans lmfao, only faggots and women screaming and pissing themselves virtue signalling over muh current thing. Where are the cheers now? Crickets. Fuck em. Shishi for life.
>>259207 Owing the yakuza millions of yen doesn’t mean you are in good with them. Takatoriki seems like an annoying shithead who knew a bunch of yakuza but wasn’t well liked. On the other than futagoy was caught up in the gambling dragnet but let off with a wrist slap. If you watch takatorikis video where he releases the Trannytame dick pic he goes on about how it’s unfair that he was booted for gambling while miyabiyama was allowed to stay in sumo and start a stable.
>>259200 >Has he even put a foot out of line as an elder? •Taking on a mong disciple who can't even make joi let alone sanyaku •Permitting the Nabatame tranny shameful dispray to take place •Koga
>>259217 QRD me on Nabatame, since Ive only caught glimpses of the whole situation from these threads. From what I'm getting he was just sexting some tranny (consensually) and some butthurt ex-JSA elder running a shitty youtube channel exposed it? What's wrong with a young 20 yo guy full of vigor exchanging nudes with a tranny?
>>259219 Didn't Koga say in previous vid he dropped out of middle-school and didn't even finish high-school because he immediately wanted to join sumo? he's a lost case, another Moriurara in the making.
>>259223 Sumo recruiting is falling, but that method of joining is still not uncommon. When Koga started there were about 10 guys in the top division who also did that.
>>259220 >washed old faggot Takatoriki is eternally butthurt and mindbroken over the JSA and especially Futagoyama >tries to stay relevant by running a gay gossip channel on youtube where he cries about the JSA and active rikishi being very mean >claims a disciple of Futagoyama did a big no-no and shows a screenshot of a chat with a pixelated dick pic on his youtube show >this is supposed to be Nabatame and someone consensually sharing naughty messages 5 years ago >has no proof more than "someone told me this and sent me this screenshot lol" >no one gives a shit
>>259200 >Has he even put a foot out of line as an elder? No one accused him of having done this. He's showa brained in a lot of the bad ways but there haven't been any scandals involving violence or bullying at his stable at least.
>>259137 Other thing is it obviously takes a heavier person more calories to maintain that weight, so if you're 200 kilos and start eating like a normal sized person then the weight will start falling off very quickly. You don't even need to be exercising unless you want to spare muscle mass.
Why is Hakuho such an insufferable faggot. You would think being one of the most accomplished Yokozuna in history would have humbled him and made him behave in a manner that dignifies the tradition.
>>259301 Asashoryu already proved that you can be a massive prick in and outside the dohyo without a shred of Hinkaku and the pussified Yokozuna council won't do shit until you piss off the Yakuza.
>>259306 Ukrainian and Mongolian wrestler sharing a laugh over how terrible the Russian wrestler is. Dan told him that Roga is short for "Russian Koga" and everyone loled their lmaos
I can maybe understand it's particular relevance to sumo, but in general I think the idea of rewarding the victor of an athletic completion with a prop comedy tier oversized drinking vessel just seems weird.
>>259217 You need someone who will be around for a long time who understands the ins and outs of being an assistant and how to do rudimentary tasks like fill the fridge with food. Once the junior guys advance they aren't going to want to teach the new people to do this. Luckily, all you need to do is recruit a Koga and after he learns how to cut an onion in 4 years he can spend the next 20 years teaching everyone else how to cut an onion, and the real talent won't be wasted
>>259325 True, but in terms of cooking specifically that heya is fucked. I've been watching since their youtube started and even the guys who are considered good at chanko have barely improved over the last three years. Miyabiyama will be long dead by the time koga learns enough to teach cooking.
>>259328 Koga doesn't have to learn cooking, there are already future designated cooks like Denuma and Kotakiyama who will become Kokuryunami in the end. Koga is just a kitchen help on camera, who the fuck knows what else is he doing around the heya. I bet Futagoyama sends him to do errands like post office etc.