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she solos

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This is what a queen who pretends to be a king deserves

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>>286439165
>B rank speed
Richard solos btw.

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Leave all the servants to me

>>286439200
Richard has schizophrenia as one of his abilities lol, he isnt beating anyone

>>286439229
>schizophrenia as one of his abilities
That's one of the strongest abilities in TMverse.

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BTFOS HERKEK

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>>286439229
You're thinking of Hundred Faces. Richard has psychopathy.

>>286439257
Are you trying to make the jannies deret this threat huh

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what's she doing right now

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>>286439229
That just makes him even stronger

>>286438504
It's closer in tone and scale to F/SN and F/Zero.
It very much feels like an urban fantasy while Apocrypha doesn't feel like it takes place in the real world (but with magic). You could say the later entries jumped the shark going into full sci fi or fantasy, borderline superhero garbage with the obsession on servants.
Fate/Strange Fake is focused on servants (because it's a grail war) but these servants are culturally distinct with morals/personalities fitting for the hero they are based on. They are not just modern humans with superpowers and they don't go over the top into anime tropes to appeal to lonely Japanese men either.
Does any of this click or am I off the mark?

And for the rest of the thread; do you agree with this analysis? I originally thought Strange/Fake was going to be some sort of meme grail war but instead it feels more true to the original nasu work than any other writer's work.

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>>286439229
Don't call yourself strong unless you have CHADzophrenia

>>286439286
Thinking about the time Heracles destroyed her (in bed) and then destroyed her (ended her life).

>Just rolled Saber in HSR
Thread is blessed

Surprised they mentioned atrum galliasta crystal generation thing

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>>286439335
The craziest is also the strongest..

>>286439286
Me.

>>286439335
Can Tohno truly be called a schizoCHAD if his most intense moments come from third parties messing with his mind

>Gil is so jealous he starts seething the moment he learns Richard has spent time with Enkidu
C U T E
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>>286439200
Isn't Gilgamesh like B or C rank Agility?

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>>286439315
It's FGO-lite, I don't see any difference in tone or story whatsoever.

>>286439529
C

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>>286439315
FGO is scifi
FSN / FZ / FSF is urban fantasy + battle royale
Apoc is battle royale but more fantasy than UF
CF/Adventures is mystery fantasy
In fantasy, it's notorious because even 20 years of technological development is enough to throw people who don't like the genre off and a lot of people only like 1 genre.

>>286439533
Faster!

>>286439228
What class would he be?

>>286440046
Saver

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ok but were the FGO movies actually sucessful?
I get the feeling all these years TM been aura farming their IP with FGO so they can gain enough traction and eyes on reworking old works and profit off of it. If Mahoyo were be released before covid, I bet people would be as excited about it as they are right now.
That being said Strange Fake is a very exception of the right time and pressure because if it werent for the fans who begged Narita for years to make the novel happen. SF is a huge risk for as a new IP and it is working, and hopefully it will steer TM in the right direction.

>>286440172
wouldn'y be*

>>286440172
All three movies were weak to mid. The anime was average. If they ever adapt LB6, that'll probably be peak unless they pick a shitty studio.

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>>286440188
>wouldn'y

>>286440172
I want to be excited, but after Last Encore, I'm kinda losing hope on Nasu and his writers. Mooncell and FGO were good on paper and in game but way too convoluted to be enjoyable.

>>286440216

They need to animate the Lost Belts with Muramasa possessing Shiro. That's a license to print money.

>>286440218
nwyell...

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>>286439125
>Alcides' is Usurper of the Celestial Wind
>Grand Herc's is Celestial Winds of Admiration
What's with Heracles and Celestial Winds?
I thought it was just Alcides' anomaly but then Nasu went and gave Grand Herc this phrase in his skill too

>>286440329
it's a codename for his farts

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>>286440247
lol Nasu doubled down when Encore flop and ranted on his blog that the audience didnt try to understand his writing hard enough.

>>286440172
The point of gacha adaptations is to get people into playing the gacha, not to adapt the whole thing and to earn money (and because the execs have likely stalled this shit for so long, it really impacts the integrity of the story). At least from Aniplex's point of view. From Nasu's point of view, he is probably just happy because he wanted to show off his favourite FGO OCs (namely Olga, Lev) on the screen. So it's successful on that front.

But I don't think these stories will actually get people into the franchise. For one thing, FGO is way too old and the continuity is convoluted. Self inserts and constantly getting new characters weaken the story

FSF is the latest instalment that can feasibly be read as a mainline story (of course, it is in a different timeline though. It can get new fans because it's standalone, effectively and I think it has been successful getting some newfags in. But regardless, I think after the grail dismantlement story, assuming that ever gets released, that's really pretty much the end of "mainline".) It's not a new IP. It's still a ""sequel"", but with extra steps because nasu can't help himself putting everything into new timelines. But it's not good to rely on gacha as the sole revenue source, so it's great to get new adaptations.

>>286440368
>nasu can't help himself putting everything into new timelines
Nasu did that precisely because he wanted his friends to go wild without caring about canon
But all of them worship him like a god so they ended up sucking his narrative instead of making their own

>>286440392
yeah narita and sanda adhere pretty close to canon. it's not like Gundam etc where there are often huge leaps in time, leaps in cast and leaps in plot

>>286440203
I still don't know what the purpose of LE was.

>>286440433
Nasu wanted to brag about his ability to expand on EXTRA bad end but then proceeded to embarrass himself because apparently writing a novel and writing anime are two different things that require different skills

>>286440499
>expand
I think it more or less detracted on the story of EXTRA overall pretty badly.

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fucking argentinian

>Hippo in volume 9 kept chasing Alcides but he didn't give a shit
>Alter Ego Gil ENTERed and Alcides immediately duked it out with him while still ignoring her
lol

>>286440433
Well it killed any extra anime anytime soon since Nasu decided to be a tard with LE.

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I skip every single powerscaling post, no filter required.
At first it started as my eyes glazing over and me scrolling down the moment I saw a keyword but now I've gotten so used to this I can immediately ignore those posts using only my gut feeling. Fuck powerscalefags and their pointless discourse.

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Richy Sees Full Mana Tanks.

>>286440329
Nasu or Narita probably based it on one of his legends but I can think of one related to "celestial winds" or something similar, maybe it's not literal and is something about "heaven" like his ascension to Godhood or his legend with Prometheus

>Jester got yuri ntr'd

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>>286440737
deserved for being a disgusting vampire

>>286440329
Pretty sure it's just a japanese-ism. Divine Wind stuff.

>>286440775
Narbareck isn't going to have sex with you,Hansa

>>286440329
>Alcides steals NPs
>Grand Herc version adds a skill seal debuff called Admiration that you can only remove until the servant uses their NP
One steals NPs and the other forces to use NP
Usurp vs admiration

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>>286431254
God Hand may just him wade through enemies, given how many bonuses Nasu added early on.

>Fate/complete material III: World Material - The Servants of the Fifth Holy Grail War: Berserker, p.036-037
Noble Phantasm
God Hand: Twelve Labors
Rank: B
Type: Anti-Unit
Range: -
Maximum Targets:

A blessing of Gods, as well as a curse. It is a Noble Phantasm given to Heracles, representing immortality. This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm. God Hand turns one’s body into a tough suit of armour and nullifies all attacks Rank B or lower, regardless the attack being physical or magical. It also has the effect of automatic resurrection after death. Because the resurrection effect has 11 uses, Heracles cannot perish unless killed 12 times. In addition, due to Illya’s immense magical energy, given enough time, the lives lost can also be regenerated.

Resurrection as well as attack-nullification. Besides these two effects, God Hand also possesses a third effect: rendering an attack that it has experienced before useless. Regardless how powerful is the Noble Phantasm that defeated Heracles, it would be completely nullified after he resurrects.

>>286440951
*allow

>>286440923
Alcides ver. mogs
stealing whatever you wants is way better than just watching

>>286440951
No, anon. Artoria can still exchange blows with him at B rank strength. It only protects him from damage, not all effects. Wrestling with Heracles is not an attack.

>>286439315
Tone is correct, but the reason can be summed up better. FSF is a grail war. That is functionally what made Fate Zero successfully. They played into the war premise itself. Unlike Apo which turbo-focused on servants and made homogenous groups, FSF is appropriately divided because every servant team has their own agendas, even if they coincide. FSF does not ignore the urban fantasy aspect and keeps its masters relevant. You have more character with Zealot and Sigma than the bulk of Apocrypha, which was just servant vs servant.


FSF has its own issues though, but it's a definite step up.

>>286440951
>Besides these two effects, God Hand also possesses a third effect: rendering an attack that it has experienced before useless. Regardless how powerful is the Noble Phantasm that defeated Heracles, it would be completely nullified after he resurrects.
This got retconned into just increasing resistance

>>286441075

I like APO but you're right, FSF has more developed characters and it feels like a true war.

I'd like to read the Apo sequel manga, though with Sakura being adopted by the Edelfeldt's instead of the Matou's and now she's the Lucha Libre tag team partner with ungodly proportions of the hot blonde from Lord El-Melloi Case Files. But they probably don't even appear.

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>>286441255
>Apo sequel
There is but it's about the Norse
Fate/Lost Einherjar

I just like strange fake's insanity. It's a HGW where all the rules are broken and it feels like that every week.

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Serious gil >>>> all fsf servants except enkidu

>>286441294
Because the organizers don't care about the grail
Francesca wants to have fun
the CIA glowies want to experiment just so they can militarize the grail war later

Am I the only one who is trying not to be bored when Gil is on screen? All he does is spam GoB and zasshu-talk. Tine is cute but also boring and hasn't done anything in the few scenes she's been present in so far.

>>286441176
Nasu still said immunity

>Q: Is Berserker's "immunity against an attack he has experience before" an ability of his Noble Phantasm, or is it due to his ability to see through the attack?

>A: The answer is that, it is a result of both the resilience of his body, as well as his techniques. God Hand has the ability to make Berserker's body immune against an attack after it has been damaged once by the said attack. Also, Berserker himself possesses the skill to see through an attack he has witnessed before. However, due to Mad Enhancement, this "technique of a swordsman" is sealed. As a result, he can only count on the ability of God Hand.

Look, I just want more Shirou.

>>286441286

My god they went large on that loli's breasts. Never seen that before.

>>286441255
Apo, when you think about it, was doomed from the start.
>Black faction is your typical arrogant mage group that understand nothing of servants or functional relationships.
These guys are basically the kayneth of the war, but it's literally all of them so none of them stand out and are made useless very quickly
>Red faction's masters all got the boot without even appearing
Doomed from the start. Fate is a story about growth at its core. The heroic spirits existed to foster growth in humans and achieve a fleeting, yet different conclusion for said heroic spirits who had been given a second chance. Zero understood the assignment. Apocrypha did not. The character element is mostly absent.

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She's not a loli you fucking retarded

>>286441373

I'd like a route where Shiro summons Archer and they team up. Give me more Shiro and/or Archer and I am happy as well.

>>286441395
ironically the fat mage from black faction grew the most from Apo war
Siegfried lived rent free in his head in the LN. He just couldn't help but regret his decision

>>286441402

I'm sorry, I struck a nerve but in this image she looks so small >>286441286

People still talking old lore, not realizing how godhand works anymore. There's a reason Saber alter could kill him a dozen times at the same time in HF movie. godhand can no longer give immunity to anything. Things can no longer be nullified, just "resisted slightly"
His NP lost its two biggest facets

>Q: With Berserker's Noble Phantasm God Hand, you gain resistance to an attack once you're hit by it, but do you only gain this resistance by having died once? Would the same attack be effective multiple times as long as it was before he died? <Madao Gingetsu>

>Nasu: You don't have to die. For example... if you were to take fire damage, once you recover you would gain +100 resistance to fire.
>Takeuchi: Oh, feels like it has been toned-down. Wouldn't it have completely nullified it before?
>Nasu: I said it won't work, but I don't think I've ever said it'll be negated. BB: "Mine is to nullify all attacks, Macho-san's is to triple his defense! What's the difference!?" Heracles: "It's not even close (to your hacked ability)!"
>Takeuchi: No matter how you put it, it's an overpowered skill.

>>286441432
She's a womanlet because Fate Sigurd (who's her daddy) is a manlet and his manlet gene made her short even as an adult

>>286441395

That's a very good summary. The Red team got the shaft, FSF is giving us somewhat of what we were denied in Apo with all these Servants AND Masters. The Apo writer must have been lazy and just gave 6/7th's of the Servants to that guy.


>>286441425

I could have used more development for the Blacks. I felt sorry for that poor lad who was sacrificed by Caster for his golems early on. But Vlad was my favorite character on that whole squad.

>I don't think I've ever said it'll be negated
He is going senile, which would explain all the retcons, weird writing
/lore and shit like extella, Nu-Tsuki and FGO

>>286441447
Didn't Berserker already lost God Hand in Heaven's Feel thanks to the grail mud?

>>286439228
>Leave all the servants to me
King Hassan and Shiki can kill him with the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception

Azrael can just inflict the concept of death on him

Literally any servant with an anti-fortress / anti-army NP can kill him because Hollow Purple, a city block level attack, was capable of killing Mahouraga

>>286441508
I mean, Nasu DID use Goetia shit to completely invalidate the previous Fate/complete material books, causing Narita & Sanda to panic because these two check those books even more than Nasu

>>286441176
It's basically the same. He abbreviated it to "triples his defense".
So suddenly doing 66% less damage per. Pretty good cut. Something that kills him 6 times over the first time can only kill him 2 times the next, and won't even kill him when used a third time.

>>286439529
B. He has B in all of his physical stats.

>>286441447
Shirou already killed multiple lives in one go in Fate Route with Caliburn.
God Hand only gains immunity after resurrection, but Caliburn burned through multiple lives in an instance, because it dealt multiple instance of lethal damage before resurrection finishes.

Sort of like FMA's anime Greed's weakness.

>>286441448

Is Sigurd related to Siegfried in the Fateverse. I listened to a Norse Myth audio book a few summers back on the Volsungs and it was some depressing shit. IIRC Sigurd was the son of Siegfried and Siegfried's sister conceived while he was under an illusion. That's where the Excalibur movie got a similar scene with Arthur and Morgan Le Fay who had Mordered.

>>286441024
Forcing out a clash of the pinnacle of heroes' legends is a good move when you're THE hero most of the time. It also reveals important information about the opponent.

>>286441550
Isn't that supposed to be manga Greed's weakness?

>Nasu is 52 years old

>>286441447
In the VN it was never clear how many lives Saber Alter took
People always assumed she only took like maybe one or two lives with the Shadow's help and the Shadow did the rest until he got absorbed
I don't consider HF movie version accurate, animators just wanted to make it cool

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>>286441564
Their stories are intimately related but they are not the same. Gram and Balmung are different swords, Brunnhilde and Brynhildr are different people as well. But they are both dragon slayers who killed Fafnir. How can two men slay one dragon? Well it turns out Fafnir is more like a phenomenon, anyone who is utterly consumed by greed to the depths of their soul becomes Fafnir.

>>286441564
no
Fate Sigurd and Siegfried are different versions of the same dragon slaying hero
Which is why Fate Brynhildr often mistook Siegfried as Sigurd before Sigurd was implemented in FGO

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>>286441432
She is unreasonably small but that just makes her a shortstack.

>>286441592
explains why he's so stubborn about muh concept

>>286441447
>just "resisted slightly"
"Slightly" being your own fanfiction. Resisted heavily.

>>286441632
The only good thing about this Sakurai LN is that Miwa is a godly artist who keeps making good arts for his favorite myth (the whole project started from him begging) even if Sakurai quickly gets bored of writing it

Proto will be the next animation project since a manga is going on and have some waiting characters for the gacha

>>286441605
>>286441618

Thanks. I am probably misremembering the name of the son-nephew, too. It was an S name as well. Sigismund? I used to have a better brain for the Norse myths. That's a cool concept with Fafnir, though.

>>286441632

She is super small, my god. Are you sure that's not a loli?

>>286441685
The only reason the novel happened is because Miwa created all the designs and demanded TM write a novel that doesn't shit on Norse shit for once

>>286441710
You mean Fragments but yeah
But there's SamRem which is completed and also has an ongoing manga

>>286440387
Lol you don't know people play or watch fgo as first entry to the franchise.
>Muh self insert
That's not valid reason it's dependikg on the story writing.

>>286441722
>Are you sure that's not a loli?
she's not
her dad's manlet gene stunted her growth
Sigurd is only 178cm in Fate after all

>>286441710
I can't see Fragment getting anything, I dont even think it is sell well at all right now.
Proto old fate I can see, but read fragment and you can see how bad it is.
I think it's tsukihime is up there since Nasu said he is on it I guess, but I do highly hope to see a new take on Prototype like the way they are doing with SF. Tokyo holy grail have to be big and romance apparently is well loved here.

>>286441737
There are gachas that just leave the self insert out of events completely

>>286441728
>>286441777

Is Fate Samurai Remnant a fun game? Been eyeing it on the Playstation Store. Looks like there's a demo to try.

>>286441804
It's alright, if you enjoy Japanese wank and more Gil.

>>286441592
Does anyone know if that mushroom is immortal like the living vampire Hirohiko Araki?

>>286440951
>btw this sword which wasn't created by gods took 7 lives
>btw this drill arrow could take like a few lives
>btw this nine attack combo could take like 9 lives
Nasu has always wanted to make Herc grand jobber

>Kokku's Question: If Shirou's Nine Lives Blade Works projection managed to mortally wound Berserker, why didn't Archer, who can make more projections than Shirou, use it when fighting Berserker, even in other routes? Is it because normal Berserker would just block it?

>Nasu: Think of it like this: the only reason Berserker's own sword techniques could be turned against him is because he has been darkened, which caused him to lose both his reasoning and battle instincts. On the other hand, normal Berserker's instincts would make it possible to counter Nine Lives Blade Works with the exact same techniques, effectively turning all the nine strikes back on his opponent. That's a scary thought!

>>286441852

Gilgamesh? GTFO LOL


My god, I know he's the original epic hero but do they have to include him in everything?

>>286441882
>this nine attack combo could take like 9 lives
to be fair, this one copied from Herc

So next episode will be police and flat vs alcides and richard vs gil and the start of wednesday vs lesbo?

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Berserker Herk was always trash idk what made some people trust on that faggot. Her main fucking glazer put all his trust blindly on him and she got her eyes cut and heart ripped out as a result. Should have summoned JETS instead and Giljobber would have died in about 5 minutes.

I want an adaptation of the Lostbelt Prologue and Lostbelt 1.

18-24ish episodes. Start right after Solomon with Gudao covering up his involvement in the Singularity Crisis so he doesn't get a Sealing Designation put on him by the Clocktower.

Then jump to the slaughter of Chaldea, focus a lot on Anastasia's involvement (build her as a big bad), Da Vinci's sacrifice, and Gudao fleeing the damaged remnants of Chaldea as they take in the post apocalyptic landscape that the world is now.

Open up on the next episode with Kadoc's speech about him and the rest of the crypers betraying humanity to side with the Alien Goddess so that they can forge a new path for humanity. While Kadoc is getting his speech, there should be flashbacks to the alien invasion and the slaughter of humanity.

Then have Gudao and his companions travel to Russia to begin the process of dismantling the Lostbelts so that they can save humanity.

Swap to Kadoc's pov and establish his inferiority complex, his time in the Singularity Crisis simulations, his romance with Anastasia, and the anxiety he has that his Lostbelt King isn't listening to him.

Swap back to Gudao and focus on the bond be builds with the civilians as he and his servants work to destroy the lostbelt. Atalanta should get a lot of screentime so her eventual betrayal hurts

Fast forward to the final battle with Anastasia and Kadoc. Drop the bombshell that Gudao will have to genocide the populace of each Lostbelt population to save humanity. Focus on how it mindbreaks him. And how even despite this, Gudao will soldier on to save humanity even if that means he must become a monster

End the final scene on Twinkle Twinkle little star as Saleri plays it for the Lostbelt Population as they wait to be wiped out of existence.

If done right, this could be KINO

I mean SF is cool but don't you think they could make a war that's a little more fraudulent

>>286441915
It also has Cu and the one time Arjuna appears without Karna.

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>>286441893
>can counter nine live with his battle instinct
>get cut down with O muh caliburn.

Why doesn't Faldeus or the Mafia boss who summoned Herc just snipe every Master to win the Grail War on Day 1?

>>286441971
Seiba's myth >>>>> every other myth in Fate
Never forget that

>>286441971
He can only counter Nine Lives because it's how own thing.

>>286441999
Explain how he can counter Archer broken NP with his battle instinct while letting a bum like Fate route Shirou cut him and parry him.

So can someone explain to me why Jack turned into a fucking demon?

>>286441722
She's 155cm (5'1), Ragnar is 210cm (6'11)

Someday we'll move onto our China wank era. Ancient Chinese heroes have to be the absolute most bullshit in any mythology.

>>286441971
I don't get how you're supposed to counter Nine Lives, when it's literally nine simultaneous attacks.
There's literally no time to react. Zero. I could understand reacting to one strike. But it should be impossible to dodge the other 8 blows, especially when Artoria, a top tier swordsman with Instinct (supernatural battle instinct), struggled to block 3 simultaneous sword slashes from Kojiro

>>286442012
Shirou surpassed his own potential, causing Berserker to underestimate him and not rely on battle instinct. Archer is meanwhile always full on as a servant so Herc's stuff is 24/7

>>286442034
not even close to how bullshit ancient indian heroes are
archer Indrajit when

>>286442012
Shirou's Caliburn projection is using Saber's battle style and full parameters. The sword was stated to be blocking Herk attacks easily. EMIYA BP is just an arrow.

>>286441722
Ragnar is just a giant anon. Aslaug is not that short.

>>286442040
Nine Lives and Tsubame ain't the same thing at all.

>>286441956
>Kadoc's speech
*Wodime's speech

>>286442040
Living Kojiro doesn't just do three slashes but 'infinite', so he could probably counter Nine Lives.
Then again, Nine Lives got wanked to hell and beyond in SF, to the point that Herc could probably kill the machine gods or possibly Tiamat or Bat King or White Titan Sefar.

>>286442053
You know it's bad when Nasu has to remove Caliburn in the final battle or Kirei would get wrecked.

Is Caliburn better than Excalibur?

>>286442034
Qin arguably got wanked a lot.
The GONG was a big meme back when he was first released.
Taigong Wang also got wanked in lore, even if his actual performance is undermined by his own writer.

>>286442096
>Herc could probably kill the machine gods or possibly Tiamat or Bat King or White Titan Sefar
Herktards really are fucking deluded lmao.

>>286442079
>Nine Lives and Tsubame ain't the same thing at all.
Fundamentally they are. Nine Lives is nine simultaneous sword slashes, while Tsubame Gaeshi is three simultaneous sword slashes.
The only real difference is that Tsubame Gaeshi is explicitly done with the Second True Magic since it's one slash + two slashes from other dimensions all being launched at the exact same time.
Nine Lives is the same shit. There's just no True Magic element to it.
Silly, I know. I used to think Nine Lives was nine concurrently slashes done in rapid succession until I saw the Heaven's Feel movies and saw Nine Lives portrayed as ONE sword slash. I pondered around, talked to some other anons about it, and did my own research and I found that Nine Lives was basically Kojiro's technique but 3x better.
It makes sense when you think about it considering that Hercules created that technique to kill a Hydra before it's heads could regenerate.

>>286442134
No.
Caliburn is worse than Excalibur because it can only handle one Excaliblast-tier attack before it is destroyed.

>>286442053
Caliburn literally uses the same style as Excalibur except autopilot so it should have been way worse than Saber fighting Herc herself.

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>>286442034
Jiang Ziya is basically the greatest chinese myth and while he's very "strong", he's also kind of a joke and most of his plans are overdone and undercooked.
The only chinese myths I can think of that would have a better showing than him are Hou Yi (a god and so iffy) and Sun Wukong (meme king king of memes never to be a servant).
It's not like anybody in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms can shine when it's just a fact that Lu Bu can manhandle them all.

>>286442034
They've already gone through Xians and several big martial heroes like Xiang Yu and Lu Bu.
Also adventures of El Melloi has a guy eating Wukong and gaining his power.

>>286442165
You forget that Caliburn was copied from when Saber was healthy.
Servant Saber parameter was heavily nerfed.

>>286442143
Hercules canonically BTFO multiple Greek Gods in his myth, including, but not limited to: Ares, Hera, Apollo, and Hades. And in Gigantomachy, the Greek Gods canonically needed his help to beat the Giants

>>286442155
>in myth Herc burned the hydra bleeding neck with fire to stop it from regrowing
>in Fate Herc just slashed harder
kek

>>286442155
>Nine Lives is the same shit. There's just no True Magic element to it
So it's not the same thing. Which is why it can be blocked unlike Kojirou's.

>>286442189
The NP that represent his feat of slaying gods is not Nine Lives
FGO already showed it as Grand Herc's NP

>>286442155
>I used to think Nine Lives was nine concurrently slashes done in rapid succession
The funny part is that your past you was correct.

>>286441448
This made me laugh.

>>286442155
They are not simultaneous, they're just at lightning speed.
Also Nine Lives Blade Works is only 8 slashes followed by a lunge.

what would a richard excaliblast look like if Gil gave him merodach

>>286442167
Jiang Ziya issue is that Sakurai is his writer and she can’t write for shit. The fact that other writers take Sakurai characters and write them better should be petty embarrassing for her.

>>286442179
That is such a retarded conclusion, because even if Shirou did copy the stats, he wouldn't have the Mana Burst to actually move the sword the way living Artoria moved it.
It's like how Rin could even beat Saber physically when she's not spamming her Mana Burst.

>>286442253
not as strong as real Excalibur
Richard's thing is that his fake excalibur can never be the real thing

>>286442253
>what would a richard excaliblast look like if Gil gave him merodach
Weaker than Excalibur. Richard's technique can never surpass or even equal Excalibur.

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>>286442253
Probably his best A+ blast, rivaling Excalibur Galatine.

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>>286442155
>until I saw the Heaven's Feel movies and saw Nine Lives portrayed as ONE sword slash
You literally see them happen one after the other in quick succession and the ground damage cause by it happening also one after the other. How the fuck can you become more wrong after doing more research?

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>>286442264
>he wouldn't have the Mana Burst to actually move the sword the way living Artoria moved it.
The sword kinda move on its own.
Shirou just followed from behind, but he can't really handle the backlash from it.

>>286442264
Caliburn under Shirou is B ranked and it managed to cut Herk arm clean because it's tracing Saber's original A STR.

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>>286442167
>It's not like anybody in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms can shine when it's just a fact that Lu Bu can manhandle them all.
>mogs Lu Bu in real life

So what the FUCK was John's plan here? He just witnessed a sakuga battle and somehow thought he could fight Archer without getting instantly BTFO'd? Is he stupid?

>>286442588
Women wouldn't understand.

>>286442588
People that have no justice in their hearts can't understand

>>286442588
He'll be fine, just rub some dirt on it.

>>286442549
In terms of charisma and leadership, absolutely. In a man to man battle? Lu Bu would twist his head off his shoulders.

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>>286442588
It's called being a damn hero

>>286442167
>Lu Bu can manhandle them all
It's actually Cao Cao who manhandles them all at the same times. Cao Cao is the one actually depicted as the final big bad villain of the novel.

>>286442588
There is no greater heroic act than self sacrifice for your friends. John's chapter in the good book even says this outright (15:13). His sacrifice will give all the other cops the proper motivation.

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>>286442842
Cao Cao is the devil figure, cunning and merciless. Lu Bu is the dragon, mightier than all, but capricious and unwise.

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>>286442949
>John's chapter

>>286442838
gunha-dono bros here too?

>>286442140
Qin is definitely strong as hell, but he seemingly suffers from a lack of offensive capabilities.

>>286442998
If he were summoned as an Archer he'd have his God-Felling Crossbow.

>>286442167 #
Let's be fair, Sun Wukong is probably not coming for now because no one can figure out how to sell a literal monkey to yumes and fujos in FGO and he is also too overpowered for HGWs. Not because he is a meme figure.

>>286442842
Cao Cao died midway through the novel and he's depicted as more of a cunning and ruthless politician than a warrior, while also downplays the real life part of him being a great tactician who publish the first edition of the Art of War and having the actual "Tiger Generals" group.

>>286439125
Why does Richard looks like a black lion? He has a Devil Trigger?

>>286443646
It's based on a shitty design with bad art from the gacha. Why does he look like that in the gacha? Who the fuck cares.

>>286443646
he heard king arthur was into lions, so he schizo'd himself into one

>>286443646
Inferring from what Saint Germain said, that's how he's supposed to look as a Berserker. In F/GO he's like that as a Saber, for no good reason at all.

>>286443380
They could use him as some sort of hybrid/pseudo with Hideyoshi, Hanuman, etc. or worst case scenario, Alexander IV.

>>286443646
No one knows why he looks like that in the gacha.

>>286442955
Cao Cao's a victim of propaganda, he's Innocent Monster material.

Gil humiliation soon...

>>286443694
>worst case scenario, Alexander IV
very likely since Sanda already used some chink to wank Ergo

>>286443694
He might also just be kemonomimi instead of full furry. But yeah, balancing

>>286443674
>Gacha gacha gacha
Nice argument

I think Narita writes his own characters in the gacha, since it sounds just like his writing.

why don't we have more RoTK servants? there are so many figures they could use. i would like them to see genderbend cow cow like how they did nobunaga

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alcides humiliation soon…

>>286443830
I wasn't making an argument, and there's no argument to be made. It's from the gacha, nobody knows why, and it looks like indiscernable overdesigned shit. it's not worth a second thought because gachas are objectively trash. And FGO is notorious for using sketches and concept art submitted by artists as final versions.

>>286443845
Of course like enkidu but bunch of people here is ignorant.

>>286443845
Every writer writes their own characters in FGO
Higashide writes Apocrypha characters
Narita writes FSF characters
Sakurai writes Prototype characters
Meteo writes Requiem characters
Each writer pretty much ONLY writes their own characters with a few notable exceptions.
Pretty much all Fate information and lore for the past ten years has been from FGO

People here try to massively downplay FGO and call none of it canon, and all of it should be disregarded, that's mostly just cope.

The Richard Lion stuff is explained in FGO despite what people here say "there is no reason???", also its alluded to in FSF itself. Saint Germain talks about if Richard was summoned as Rider or Berserker he wouldn't be as noble.

>>286443898
It's designed by the same character designer of fsf also narita approval, and you are know nothing only talking muh hate gacha.

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>Can easily be clawing Alcidies face from this pose
>But somehow his body is frozen in place

>>286443964
He was already in his NP range, he couldn’t do anything

>>286443964
He was within the range of Alicides' range.

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>>286444300
just move your hands, NPs don't negate your ability to move. Your hands are long enough to reach him

>>286444306
Melee Initiative is calculated from speed-range.

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>Gilgamesh sees right through his excuses about heroism, and that he's just enjoying the chaos and wants an excuse to fight people. When he sees someone strong he just can't help it

>>286443919
It's in this weird limbo state where all the relevant metaphysics and canon shit is clearly written or co-authored by Nasu, but the circumstance around it is braindead retarded because inferior writers cannot make Nasu's chuuni autism work coherently in a story

>>286444355
I wonder if anime only fags caught on to Richard being a schizo.

>>286444393
Not sure about this. But I realized it from his duel with Enkidu. He looked happy soaring into the sky, chased by thousands of swords.

>>286440923
>>286441024
>>286441575
Isn't Grand Hercules' Admiration similar to the activation requirements for Bazett's Fragarach?

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>Achilles' son beats Priam to death with the dead body of his baby grandson
>And then he kills his daughter as a sacrifice to his father
>And then he fucked Hector's wife for good measure and making her his sex slave
>All while being a teenager
How bad of a parent was Achilles to raise someone like this?

>>286444505
They had it coming.

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>>286444505
Thats just normal greek behavior.

>>286444355
I love Richard.

>>286444545
>still no oedipus servant

>>286444560
>>286444545
what'd his NPs be

>>286444566
He cause the enemy to gouge their eyes.

>>286444566
Blindness and lucking his way into success

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>>286439125
Best Rider is here

>>286444566
Rider that summons the Sphinx who wants to fuck him, but the only person he has sexual interest towards is his mother. The Sphinx also exists as an INT test where unless the opposition can solve her riddles, they're screwed.

>>286444505
Sounds like a GREAT son getting justice for his father.

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>>286439125
Wait wait, can someone explain why the hero alliance split their forces to attack Gilgamesh too? What the fuck? Am I retarded or are they retarded? I can't tell. I'm so confused. Gil wasn't even trying to kill the baby, was he? Did I miss something. I might be a dumb. They could've all gangbanged Towel Man, Gil included for being a fucking prick.

>>286444988
>I might be a dumb
yeah you are

>>286440923
You're a fucking retard if you think gameplay indicates that Grand Herc's version does

Gilgamesh is forever cucked.

>>286442241
They literally are simultaneous, Fate mats straight up say Nine Lives annihilated 100 hydra heads simultaneously. This literally can't happen if there's an even minimal delay between each attack being performed.

There's no world where I consider gilgamesh strong because his record has him jobbing to shirou who just learned to use his abilities.

>>286445141
Okay fair, but when did Gil say he would kill the baby? Surely Towel Man is a worse and more violent threat. Splitting up and making an enemy of Gil for no reason was dumb! If I'm dumb they're dumb too! Dumber even!

>>286445500
Gil attacked both sides this episodes (Jack included) and clearly showed no interest when Alkeides shot at Tsubaki

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How much would you pay for a Fate/Stay Night II (as in AU not sequel)?

Imagine:
> extended Femme Fatale/Bad End 40 Route with Matou Rin
> Proper Illyasviel Route
>Caster Route

>>286445768
>Caster Route
Would never happen because Atsuko passed

I started going through Zero again and I gotta ask, why did Kiritsugu always rank Kayneth as a bigger deal than Tokiomi? Did he just figure that he could snipe the guy out at some dinner party whenever he wanted?

>>286445939
Because he is? His mercury blob alone mogs Tokiomi.

>>286445768
No one cares about your shitty fetish bro

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>>286445969
Not my bro Rinless nigger

The only one I don't believe that about is Meteo... His event wasn't even written by him in FGO

I hate not knowing how 4chan works. I was referring to the post about the FGO writers...

>>286446359
if you click the number it will include the number reference to the post
just like in the forums from the days of yore when you could click the quote button to quote people

>>286446394
Thank you Anon

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>>286444505
It's really his mother's fault.
When Achilles was a baby, Thetis bathed him in the river of the immortals.
Peleus was completely opposed to this, as it would take away what little humanity he had as a demigod... And... Well, you see how it ended.

>>286446470
there's like 3 post deletes a day as well. though mostly people will just quote the post they meant to reply to and include something like

>>(their post)
meant for
>>(the post they wanted to reply to)

instead of using the delete limit

>>286441286
Lost Einherjar probably wouldn't exist without History Channel's Vikings

>>286444393
>anime only fags caught on to Richard being a schizo.
Okay man, they've been a bit heavy handed with all the times other characters have pointed out that he's enjoying himself during all this despite the chivalry. It's kind of hard to not notice it at this point.

What went wrong?

>>286447348
The episodes are only 20 minutes instead of 40

>>286447364
^this

>>286444826
Ayaka wouldn't do this, she's too passive

>>286447348
The art style wasn't used in other fate projects.

>>286440564
Leave the Obelisco out of this.

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>>286439125
Just want to say that stealing Noble Phantasm is wrong. I fucking hate Thief class.

>>286447348
Battle damage on servants too toned down which makes it look like they are all ignoring each others attacks
Richard isn't doing war crimes

>>286447590
I like it because it makes retards seethe

>>286447590
>slasher
Why not Murderer?

>>286447638
Because it's the more appropriate term for him. Just like how you mainly call serial killer as that and not murderer.

>>286440564
Rider San Martin never
Caster Borges never

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>The man with the most unremovable stick up his ass

>>286447857
>It was like she was looking at walking garbage

>>286447849
I still can't get over the fact that he calls Kiara a “cow.”

>>286443674
Keep being mindbroken about FGO anon. It's entertaining to watch your mental illness.

>>286448256
Did he stroke a nerve?

>>286448256
I didn't mind it/sort of liked it through the Solomon temple stuff, but EoR and Lost Belt are just not really good and far and away fuck with so much of their own lore that it's becoming a never ending editing war in regards to how many times a story can change in any given arc now.

>>286448973
>still miss Saber and tied Hippolyta hair like her in a HF-ish timeline
Rin..

Reminder that Hippolyta was fucked by "that man" after all

>>286449034
And...? What's your point?

>>286449034
Can I trace that man experience?

>>286440775
>Kiara was like 25 in 2030
>So she'd be 16 in 2021
She must have joined super early in the Tsuki timeline.
Imagine what her slutty church uniform looks like...

>>286441722
She's automatically not a loli if she has breasts.

>>286446413
Why isn't Ishtar telling Halri to put on a bunnysuit?

>>286444988
Anime staff went full retard and decided to completely change when and how Gil and Richard entered the fight.

>>286449227
Kiara was also 25 years old in FGO by 2016.
In TsukiR we're also told she met with Roa so she must be pretty old.
Her timeline isn't consistent.

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when will my armpit sexo wife appear again

Any figures of a niche character like Migu?

>>286449503
Migu? One of the quartet or the police chicks?

>>286449363
Maybe she got inside the Moon Cell when she was 25 and just waited some 14 years before joining the Grail War.

Episode 10 Gil vs Richard, Police and Flat vs Alcides
Episode 11 Wednesday vs Jester, Gil fucking dies
So will they actually rush the fuck out of volume 6 for 12 and 13, or will we get some of the skipped content like character flashbacks to fill out these episodes?

>>286449550
>king banquet for the last episode

>>286449550
Just because they'll touch on Volume 6 doesn't mean they'll go through all of it.

>>286440203
>>286440433
>>286440499
is it still worth checking out just for nero?

>>286449645
Nero is cute, but god the series is really shit. I'd say go ahead. especially if you have any knowledge of Extra

>>286449645
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for Nero

>>286445184
>they are simultaneous so the ground that received the blowback of the attack is damaged at different moments
Wut.

>>286449605
It's hard to imagine a good stopping point. You want a reasonable good place to hang off of
Gil's death
Kingdom Come
Alcides vs Hippo horse battle
Richard's affirmation
Flat getting 360 no scoped
All those seem like reasonable stopping points. There's really no good point in volume 6 I can think of that would work as a hook

>>286449818
4 of those things happen in volume 6 though?

>>286449818
It will end with Pale Rider surge and Waver's buddy reporting the situation.