have you tried not being a little bitch?
stop buying it or go to aa like the cocksleeve you are

>>34296451
>go to aa
none in my area

Why stop?

>>34296445
You have to actually want to stop. You don't want to stop. You're here hoping to find reasons to keep drinking instead. So by all means carry on with it until you've lost almost everything as a result of alcohol. Then you'll be actually ready to stop and can take real steps. Good luck anon.

>>34296445
I was doing some research on St John's Wort and in animal studies it was found to reduce alcohol intake.
It's anti-anxiety effects might make withdrawals a little easier.
Idk though, rehabs use benzos for this

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>>34296445
You need a reason to stop that you truly believe is important. For substance abuse, that usually means hitting rock bottom. AA helps a minority of people who participate, so it may be worth a chance.

>>34296445
IDK how to help you anon but I've been listening to this podcast about drug users/alcoholics in recovery. Most of the guests are celebrities and there's no AA bullshit or anything being pushed. It's just people sharing stories of being fucked up and how they stopped using, maybe you will find it useful: https://dopeypodcast.com/
I personally really like the Nick Reiner and Wayne Kramer episodes.

>>34298690
Why do people abuse substances?

>>34298910
IDK the only thing I have ever felt truly addicted to was playing League of Legends and I fixed that problem by forcing myself to only have a old laptop that wouldn't run it in my place. I even tried things like heroin for the lolz and never got addicted to anything substance wise so I really don't know. I know a lot of junkies and a lot of them are restless extroverted narcissistic people. I think you need to have a certain type of personality to become a drug addict.

>>34296445
AA is the only thing that worked for me. And believe me I tried everything else possible under the sun for 10 years before I gave in.

Unfortunately for some of us it truly is a spiritual disease and only a spiritual answer can solve it.

I have nearly 3 years sober after 15+ years of drinking very heavily since my teens. But this is coming with its own problems. I'm late thirties now with nothing to show for it and I'm desperately playing catch up and honestly I'm just so tired. No career, no relationship, no friends, nothing. If you're young, quit NOW before you waste your best years.

>>34298947
what was heroin like?

>>34296445
>how do I do it?
Pour all of your alcohol down the drain and never buy any more. It is genuinely that fucking simple. You don't stop because you don't want to. Therapy doesn't help you stop because you don't want the therapy to work - you just want to keep drinking and blame your therapist.

>>34296445
therapy does help you deal with it though right? my "drink" is cannabis. and it is just so simple to get though with a few barriers in my country. it puts into psychosis but it still has benefits, but the damn psychosis is awful to but it lightly. I met someone who meant a lot and I stopped for now 1 year and 2 months. But she disappeared and now I'm just left without that hope or motivation. I've not went back yet but I can almsot see it as hope... I'd consider christ and christianity again but, mostly for the social circles and activities.
Medication and thearpy, yeh, helps but the fundemental problems with friendships, relationships and health problems are just pervasive.
This is at 34.

>>34298659
this top of hers is dangerously low, for a blue board

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>>34298976
Ok so this is gonna sound weird but it actually happened. A few months after I ordered my first gram of #3 (what people call brown sugar) I was listening to this podcast with Mickey Avalon and he said the first time he took it he started nodding and saw an old timey black and white cartoon with a slot machine. And I literally saw the same thing when I took my first small line. Basically when you're really high, especially if you have no tolerance and it's your first smoke or line you get a lot of closed eye visuals. If you look up hypnagogic state hallucinations, it's pretty much the exact same thing. As for the warm blanket feeling people describe I had some of it but it's not like wow this is x100 better than sex or something. Also when you do a little bit you feel energized and generally content and if you do more obviously you start nodding and it becomes hard to keep your eyes open and you start like daydreaming very intensely pretty much and then when it wears off you feel energized again. Also never had any hangovers or withdrawals but I never took it more than 3 days in a row. Sorry if I'm not the best at describing these things lol
It's a lot of fun but it's not 'the best feeling in the world" I found tramadol + booze actually way way way more euphoric. One more thing I want to add is I haven't ordered any in a year or so because the prices spiked after the taliban banned the production of opium and I'm lowkey afraid some sellers are going to put nitazines or fentanyl in it because there is a huge shortage right now.

>>34299281
>>34298976
I also smoked it in public sometimes and I would always stress about accidentally doing too much and getting the nod. I would also always smoke it in short rolling papers because thick ones are too wide and your "heroin cigarette" has to be really tight or it won't smoke properly. I had a few comments sometimes about my cigarette smelling funny but I don't think anyone ever caught on since heroin use is not really a thing in my area. You probably waste some product by doing it like this but I read this is how Mick Jagger would use it and I don't want to get bad fumes from thin foil smoking + it looks really difficult to do properly. Anyways, I would actually recommend trying it IF you're the type of person that doesn't get addicted to things easily AND if you can get a pure product.

>>34296445
You should stop buying it and stop putting yourself in situations that will make it easy for you to drink.

I met a lovley girl from 4chan who needs to stop this shit. You could see it was going to consume her life and send her spiralling.
Fuck all others can do to stop it, you need to want to stop it yourself.
Perhaps try and replace the bad addiction with a good one, fitness, weightlifting, something you can really see progress in, if you put in the work.

>>34296445
>Been on it for a 9 years. No results. Total waste of time and money
Then you are hopeless.

>>34299382
why was she drinking?

>>34299457
I dont really know, she may just find it addictive, but I suspect the drinking started due to depression and potentially shit in the past hanging over her. It is a shame. If she reaches out and asks for help, I will offer it though.

If for whatever reason shes browsing /adv/ PLEASE STOP DRINKING

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>>34298910
Some people just want pleasure, but other people use pleasurable addictions as painkillers to cope with difficulties in life that the can’t resolve.

>>34299353
>You should stop buying it and stop putting yourself in situations that will make it easy for you to drink.
Leaving my job would help but I need the money

>>34296445
The only way is to go through withdrawals once you become an alcoholic.


All these people saying “stop being a little bitch” etc and just stop. They aren’t alcoholics. Just being making their hangovers worse and worse until they’re going through full blown withdrawals and they don’t even know until it’s too late.

Like me you drank and drank and drank. And didn’t feel much but a hangover. Thought you knew better than all the alcoholics who told you to stop. So you drink more. Drink more. Drink more. You can’t quit it now without going through withdrawals you fucked up simple as. As someone who’s been through it. It’s the one experience of my life and it’s the only thing that made me full stop and never think about alcohol again. Good luck it will be hell.

>>34296445
Start thinking about how much you hate alcohol and what you dislike about it. Take a moment for a self assessment the next time your piss drunk or hungover.

Sorry if it doesn't help, but thats what helped me slow way down with my consumption.

>>34299021
It's impressive how ignorant you are.

>>34304345
Why did you drink it in the first place?

>>34296445
>How do I stop drinking?
>But also I'm dismissive of every possible suggestion
I dunno, drink yourself to death then

>>34296445
Drink so much that you enter delirium can't sleep and have hallucinations. That's how a guy i know stopped. It was so horrifying for him that he quit forever.

>>34304428
I used to really like alcohol. It was everywhere when I was younger and very easy to obtain even before i was old enough to buy on my own. After I could buy it for myself it became a daily thing, all of the friends I had were about the same. We bonded over alcohol, and every time we were together we were drinking.

I used to be able to take the alcohol a lot better without it affecting me too hard the next day, but eventually I was drinking a case of beer a day and it turned into something where I'd drink until I made myself sick everyday. Puking at night and in the mornings and at work, feeling like I'm gonna shit my pants every morning. I realized my friends and I really had nothing in common beyond booze and it kind of made it hard to live with myself.

It wasn't a lightswitch moment, but It made me start drinking less. I made myself stop drinking when i was alone in my apartment, I stopped drinking in public at the local bar because I didn't like how I acted when I was drunk. Eventually my desire or want for it just wasn't as loud of a voice.

Growing up in an alcoholic family i think made it easier for me to walk away from drinking like that. I was drinking just like my father did when I was a child, and feeling like I was emulating him made me hate myself. I think that notion is what made it easier for me to walk away from it.

What function does your drinking serve?

I quit drinking forever in new years eve of 2019 after my grandma called me I felt really bad for some reason. That night I drank and I cried and cried and felt terrible for hours. After that I never drank again. I was never an alcoholic or anything to be fair, I did had a phase where I got drunk at home by myself drinking cheap vodka and played videogames and one of those times I start feeling weird and puked 6 times and I thought I was gonna die too and it scared me. I haven't drank since then. I also quit tobacco and vaping and that shit was on my mind all the time. You just have to abstain really I don't think there is any other way bro. One of the first times I was trying to quit nicotine I just kept reading about it being a drug and reminding myself about it and to not to do it. Kinda worked but I relapsed months later. And then later on I quit for good until today. Good luck man I hope you succeed.