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>>34302570
>>i say hi/bye to them and they just walk by and say nothing as if I am invisible
I've been this, seen this, and done this.
Weak, off-putting people are ignored because they don't offer anything pleasant to engage with and they allow themselves to be ignored because they're weak.

To be clear: I am NOT saying that they should force their unpleasant interactions on others.

I am saying that they're proffering a weak, uninteresting greeting while offering nothing besides unpleasant interaction.

The first step is to learn to be pleasant.
Turn off the neediness and desire. Stop caring if the girl responds. Because it doesn't matter. Yet every time the weak person is pleading for a crumb of attention, typically only from attractive members of the opposite sex.
So many times I have tried to give advice on talking to all people and guys respond that they have no interest in talking to anyone else besides attractive girls. They don't realize how obvious this is to the women themselves.
Since all the women did to achieve this attention was have a vagina, it makes the attention worthless.

And THAT is the problem. It's transparent. They're seeking attention from the opposite sex while not even offering pleasant human conversation.

The solution is to git gud. Not at talking to women but at literally anything. Be competent.
If, for example, a guy were to become knowledgeable and helpful at their job, then they can answer questions and give advice and assist others. This is a positive trait for a coworker. If they can also say hi, take an interest, and then fuck off without expecting anything to come from it, then they might seem pleasant to interact with.

On the other hand, if they react to the presence of women like a lost mangy puppy with sores, they're going to be ignored because any engagement will get the woman pounced on.

It's not usually about height or attractiveness. It's about being an appealing person to interact with. And you can improve on that.

>>34302570
>>most if not all of the girls who work at the restaurant ignore me
damn. might as well just give up now all the girls at one place don't like you. that's basically every single girl going against you

>>34303271
Second this

>>34303271
Yes it sucks. However sometimes they will say hi or bye to me for some reason and other times will treat me as a ghost. Either I am a ghost or I am a toy to fuck around with. No in between for guys like me

>>34302570
You’re doing it wrong.
Find the girl who likes talking to you the most and talk to her all the time.
Never even look at another girl. The rest of them will start to think “what does she have that I don’t?” and your approval will start to have value to them because they think it will help them answer that question.

>>34303211
>So many times I have tried to give advice on talking to all people and guys respond that they have no interest in talking to anyone else besides attractive girls.
Another common response to solid advice on how to apply effort and work to improve their situation is to never reply at all. Those guys likely aren't looking for solutions. They're looking for confirmation that there's nothing they can do, they're hopeless victims of fate, and that others should feel sorry for them as they continue to do nothing to improve the situation.

>>34303410
That’s the thing.
None of the girls seem to like talking to me. If one of them did, they would start talking to me.
>>34303211
No, I’m not only interested in talking attractive girls. Idk where you got that. And it honestly just sounds like you’re blaming me for getting mistreated. You’re basically saying that women can read my mind or something and detect that I’m weak or useless. It’s honestly not too fucking hard to say hi or bye to someone, dude.

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>>34304085
>No, I’m not only interested in talking attractive girls. Idk where you got that.
It's a very common reply. I didn't assume you felt that way so I stated that I hear it a lot to elicit confirmation or denial.

>And it honestly just sounds like you’re blaming me for getting mistreated.
Fair. To be clear, they're being rude.
But like when women ghost guys online, such women are often being rude with good reason.

It's the same way people walk past panhandlers and pretend that they don't exist. Usually if you stop and treat them with respect and dignity and treat them like a human being but *don't* give what they want, they get upset because they got their hopes up.
It's vastly more pleasant to ignore the needy than to suffer the unpleasantness of someone you're not responsible for being upset with you for not providing for their needs.

>You’re basically saying that women can read my mind or something and detect that I’m weak or useless.
Not your mind. Your body language, tone, word choice, mannerisms, eye direction, and whatever else. People do it all the time with various levels of accuracy.
I guarantee you that those girls aren't as accurate as they think they are but that doesn't change anything.

You are likely telegraphing that you want them to talk to you but don't seem pleasant to engage with.
The extreme example I use is Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons.


>It’s honestly not too fucking hard to say hi or bye to someone, dude.
Correct. And they're specifically avoiding doing it. They aren't willing to risk engaging.
The solution is to prove their assessment of you to be wrong.
Be pleasant.
Be capable.
Be self aware.
Be aware of their disinterest if they show it and pleasantly fuck off.
And do all of it regardless of whether they respond positively or not.
If you show that you aren't desperate for their approval and attention, they might question their assessment of you.

>>34304221
Here's an anecdote:
I once asked out a coworker who was friendly with me and she turned me down. It was no big deal. But afterwards she started ignoring me and acted cold to me. I correctly guessed that she was pulling away to protect herself from me possibly being upset or pining over her or being salty or whatever. So I literally pretended like I never asked her out and she wasn't acting differently. I kept saying hi and getting ignored, tired to start a conversation and happily fucked off when she didn't engage, and generally acted the same. After a couple weeks she returned to normal and was friendly again.

Her experience had taught her that I was going to be unpleasant. And when I proved that I wasn't, she realized that she was wrong could say hi and chat and it would be fine.

It's important to note that we didn't discuss it and she didn't acknowledge that she was wrong. We just moved forward.

>>34304085
Then find the ‘ugliest’ or least socially active girl and give her all your attention even if she doesn’t want it. Doesn’t matter what she wants, it’s about turning your attention into a high value asset by reducing its supply. Ignore the other chicks, focus attention on one. It could be any of them. The others will naturally start to see you as more desirable.