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Any /med/fags here, Are these treatments making my daughters rash worse? 03/02/26(Mon)13:33:15 No.34303842
Any /med/fags here, Are these treatments making my daughters rash worse? 03/02/26(Mon)13:33:15 No.34303842
Any /med/fags here, Are these treatments making my daughters rash worse? Anonymous 03/02/26(Mon)13:33:15 No.34303842 [Reply]▶
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>started 4 months ago in October (daughter was 2-3 months old) appearing as a small but itchy cradle cap (looks like pic related) but she scratched it a little
>after looking at my daughter for 5mins doctor prescribed both hydrocortisone (topical steroid) and Ciclopirox (antifungal).
>be me
>asked if this was necessary or if it would resolve on its own?
>doctor replied we're not monsters ok, if we see an issue we treat it, only a monster wouldn't treat this. >my wife applied it for almost a week and it disappeared but reoccurred after stopping the medication (few days later), spreading more to her cheeks
>went to the doctor at next checkup and he said to continue using it until it disappears. Following this the medication was used for almost 2 weeks. It presented as a full body rash
>he prescribed betamethasone for the rest of her body but not her face
>we used it again for a few weeks, appeared to be working
>was referred to a dermatologist and after a 5-10 minute consult he suggested continuing to use both betamethasone (rest of her body) and the ciclopirox/hydrocortisone (on her face) combo. he ruled out a fungal infection but didn't say
>family doctor says it looks much better but this will just be a reccurant thing
>run out of hydrocortisone and now only applying loprox, it comes back much worse
>wife still trusts the doctor, doesn't want to go to an emergency or walk-in clinic because family doctors will sometimes take patients off the list if they do that
>wife doesn't want me to question any of the doctor's decisions because he's an expert and doesn't think I'm deferential enough to his expertise
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>>34303842
You could go to another doctor and get a 2nd opinion
Also take a look at any household things that could be causing the rash. Things like laundry detergent, dish soap, fabric, perfumes etc. that you guys use daily and start ruling those out for possible allergic reactions
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>>34303842
Why the fuck are you trying to second guess what a guy who has done med school and years of professional development has told you by asking randoms on a chinese cartoon board?
Your wife is right, not everything is a psyop.
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>>34303842
Probably allergic to something.
Kids nowadays can be allergic to anything.
Could be food, laundry detergent, fabric softener, bath soap, shampoo etc.
All hydrocortisone does is shut down the immune system right underneath the skin.
You can large tubes of it for $1.25 at Dollar Tree.
Not sure if prescription is higher strength or not.
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>>34303923
>Things like laundry detergent, dish soap, fabric, perfumes etc. that you guys use daily and start ruling those out for possible allergic reactions
Could be but we're using the softest possible detergent. no perfumes used in the house, fabric is almost entirely cotton, and the dish soap we're using is the palmolive pure + clear (no unnecessary ingredients). The soap used in baths is the Aveeno baby wash. If it's an allergen it's something subtle. I'll have a look.
>All hydrocortisone does is shut down the immune system right underneath the skin.
One of my concerns is that using something that shuts down her immune response could have unintended effects. We've now graduated to stronger steroids like betamethasone.
>>34303906
Then why the hell did is a small cradle cap rash on her forehead go to the rest of her body (smaller than the on in OP)?
Look dumbass most of the drugs she's applied have warnings such as loprox on the label that they're not intended for use under 10 years old. The pharmacists were surprised we were purchasing these drugs and wanted to phone the doctor that gave the prescription for the steroids/antifungal (betamethasone, hydrocortisone, loprox).
>>34303866
I've seen doctors ten times as often in the last few months than I have in the previous 25 years of my life. Anyways we have another appointment with the dermatologist next week. I've suggested going to the emergency clinic/walk-in clinic at the hospital.
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i have seborrhea and its caused by a biofilm of fungus, no pharma solution works for it. mct oil can help, what really kills the fungus is mixing a few drops of essential oils with the mct oil such as peppermint or rosemary but not sure if i would try that on a baby. after i apply it the fungal layer will die and the next day will flake off in a white chunk revealing the skin underneath
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>>34303842
Its possible but did your daughter touch the floor or any fabric where you sit down then contaminated her sleeping place? In my case thats what gave me eczema/red bumps, so I had to take bath and change clothing before bed, I'll clean and change my sheat and pillow if I contaminate it once or every month. I use plastic/wood chairs to sit down on and never touch leathery/fabric ones since they are hard to clean. Goodluck.
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Not a medfag, but COVID told us what happens when you blindly listen to "experts". If you're in Burgerland you need to remember that we're overmedicated and that many professionals are incentivized to medicate rather than look for root causes... and that by medicating instead of letting your daughter's skin adapt to the world it may become a reoccurring problem. It's also possible this is just the genetic hand your daughter was dealt.
I'd suggest at least reducing treatment and looking at what environmental factors are at play: soaps, laundry detergent, cleaning products, food... and perhaps trying traditional or homeopathic remedies (take them with a grain of salt, but they're worth trying). Then you start hunting for a new doctor that seems more inclined to your values (or at least is willing to look deeper than the other doctors you've seen) for a second opinion.
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>>34303842
What you shoukld do is start by deduction.
Remover all detergents and chemicals etc from her bath, food, clothing.
Feed her on real apples not bottled apple juice or mushed apple baby food in a bottle etc.
Bathe her in ideally bottled (or spring) water, no washing chemicals.
Hot wash clothing in just water.
then wait for it to subside.
Then add things.
It might be as simple as a detergent you are using is causing uncomfort.
Might be another thing that certain foods are casuing her to have a reaction.
Could even be a serious skin condition like psoriasis or excma but you wont know until you deduct.
Some of the key things is gluten, wheat etc and detergent chemicals from soaps, washing powder.
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Hi OP,
Medfag final year medical student here. I can't diagnose your daughter over the internet obviously without a history and examination.
However in terms of practical advice, theres no point applying loprox as it doesn't seem to be a fungal infection. Keep applying the hydrocortisone or any steroid cream you have if that is helping the rash.
>>34304890 has solid advice. Try to see if anything in your baby's environment is causing the rash.
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>>34303842
I'm not a medfag but I am a dad who also has dealt with shit doctors treating my child before. I cannot offer advice for your baby's symptoms, I don't know the answer for that.
What I can tell you is if you know for a fact that your doctor is incompetent or in malpractice, if your gut instinct is firing off and you know something is wrong, it means something is wrong. You are the father, you know your baby more than the doctor since you are the one who watched your daughter crawl out of the womb and grow every single day every night every week every month for 7 months. You witnessed every shit, piss, puke, spit, far, burp, skin change, hair growth, every single day. For that kids entire life you did that.
The doctor has only seen her for 30 minutes or less in any given appointment.
What some doctors do is they use Occam's razor. They see symptoms that remind them of a common diagnosis, they instantly assume the symptoms are because of the most common diagnosis, they run with that and prescribe the meds and call it a day. Those are lazy doctors, they don't run tests they don't hold off on topical or medicinal treatments before further verification they just tell you to go and execute their guesswork.
Doctors like this are a cancer to you and your family, go find a different doctor. Doctors are going to be the most arrogant sons of bitches you'll constantly encounter as a father. It's not a secret either, most people humourously understand doctors to be stereotypically arrogant. They hate, HATE being second guessed. Especially by the patient, because all their ego went into 4-7 years chasing a degree and spending $200,000 or more on student debts. Questioning them makes them feel like they wasted their life or some shit
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>>34303906
Which brings me to this weak, limpdick post:
>Why the fuck are you trying to second guess what a guy who has done med school and years of professional development has told you
Completely sterile, milquetoast, servile, submissive. The type of guy who would indirectly put their own loved ones in risk all because he thinks his obliviousness and weak "but who am I to question [authority]?" Makes him reasonable or something. Ignore this post OP. I've watched men behave like this with their families and it wound up costing their families health and wellbeing, allowing hokey doctors or incompetents run a train through their family out of being too scared to stand up for themselves. Those doctors (who later got fired due to multiple incidences) typically prescribing bullshit on a whim to make the appointments nice and short to save their time, resulting in nasty or life threatening reactions in babies who, if the doctor had read fucking hospital medical notes, would understand that the baby has sensitive skin due to C-section complications and dousing the baby in strong topical creams meant for older kids is a bad fucking idea.
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>>34303945
Betamethasone is topical which isn't as bad as oral but still isn't meant to be used for long periods of time.
The reason infants are more likely to develop these reactions is because their skin is thinner than adults, but betamethasone can actually thin the skin even further.
So it may help in the short term but it will actually make your babies skin more sensitive to whatever is causing the allergy.
Hopefully your kid eventually just grows out of it, but as other anons said you need to use process of elimination to figure out what is going on.
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>>34305481
never, and I repeat, NEVER listen to faggots who have no medical training when it comes to medical advice that they themselves haven't experienced first hand. If you want to shit talk doctors and medical personnel don't ever go to a hospital again. Don't even visit a doctors' office. You people are the scum of the earth and complete hypocrites. Your advice gets people killed, but as soon as your little ankle hurts you come running to us
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>>34305892
Do you tell fatasses, addicts and old people to fuck off like this, or just people who don't agree with you?
>>34305888
Ivermectin is still a great anti parasitic though