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Post charts

If ai is the next step towards transhumanism. Wouldn't these groups be embracing it?

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Soon.

>>62327835
>Well I mean we were on the highest recorded buffet indicator with insanely shaky fundamentals. Now the question is how deep this dip goes.
We need to dip at least 50% for valuations to start making sense again, but that's not going to happen anytime soon because there are endless hordes of people out there who will take a second mortgage out on their home to buy the dip if we go down by so much as 20%. I want to believe this shitty AI bubble will pop soon, but I just don't see it happening as long as retail idiots have money.

>>62328569

>LAC because I think that battery technology is going to keep evolving

Oh i agree but there are always issues with that like sodium batteries weighing alot. There are areas that Li might need to look out for, I've been noticing that for low end applications Ni-MH batteries are getting pretty good. Small lights and low power rechargeable appliances like hair clippers and that sort of thing.

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> futures

>>62328588
!!!!
n-nazi!

How come Buffett supporters always shout that time in the market is better timing the market when Berkshire is trying to time the market?

>>62328598
Remember that time Warren Buffett sold the absolute bottom with Airlines during the covid crash?

>>62328598
How come buffett supporters completely ignore the fact he'd be rinsed if TARP never bailed him out?

>>62328598
Thats goyim dealing in the real world

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>>62328550
Let the nacos deal in the real world.

Bobosisters all the experts call it an air pocket and my bvll fintubers are all calm, what's going on? It was supposed to be OUR turn

>>62328604
You mean his deal with GS?

>>62328598
Buddy got lucky with KO and Apple and has been riding high ever since.
>>62328615
Calm before the storm

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>buy 300$ worth of stocks on sunday
>monday looks promising
>then friday comes
am i retarted?

>>62328612
Honestly prepackaged tortillas are awful no matter the brand, find a tortilleria instead or sometimes supermarkets sell fresh made ones, corn flour tortillas specially can only be enjoyed fresh

>>62328626
Corn tortillas are taste worse than flour tortillas and I will die on that hill

>>62328626
You sound like an uppity bitch. Just eat the tortilla from the bag bro

A lot of people don't know this but salsa is actually the best condiment. Put it on pizza, wings, burgers, you name it

>>62328626
What the fuck is a torterilla
You mean a bakery? Like a bread bakery?
Is this what white women want in america? A store that sells only fucking flatbreads?

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Tag & add yourselves smiggers, lets make a Bayeux tapestry featuring the many faces of smg

>>62328646
>no anime girls
Dropped

>>62328644
Kek

>go to r/shortsqueeze
>pick literally any stock they hype up
>short it
>profit
Did I discover the infinite money glitch?

>>62328646
Youve posted this like 5 times bro. Nobodys impressed

>>62328584
because they can't gain more money from furries and general gooner content, yes that's literally it, if AI couldn't draw they would be the biggest supporters

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>>62328626
I've made my own in a pinch when I needed just one or two, and I'm sure they were good, but I can't be assed to make a dozen of them one at a time when I'm just trying to get a bunch of burritos put together, ese.

>>62328689
nothingburger week

>>62328690
Oracle on Wednesday. That will be highly significant, especially to memoryfags.

>>62328584
they only wish to exploit human sympathy/gullibility. the machine doesn't care for delusion.

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>>62328584
left was told to hate ai, so they hate ai.

Communist traitors at sp500 are excluding space x, open ai and anthropic.
This is evil communism.

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Anti Ai people are almost 100% communist or similar flavor of retarded. And virtually every tranny is a political extremist.

>>62328591
This but without the poorfag cope. I got 6m, my plan is to go 75% TQQQ if it drops 20%, 100% at 30%.

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Just because I don't like ai doesn't mean I'm a communist or lefty or whatever. You people are delusional and retarded.

>>62328705
Dont use ai as a replacement for artistic works. Its pretty simple.
AI is a 1/2 toy, 1/2 tool.

>>62328733
Trannies are excluding space x from sp500

I can't wait for AI to take their adult daycare jobs

learn to weld

>>62328745
Its sunday, which means jews are off shabat ready to try to subvert the goyim again and most christians are taking the day off.
So /biz/ is pretty much lies and shitposting today.

>>62328756
Oh shit i forgot what day it was. My bad.

You guys are just the regular kind of liars!

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>>62328746
I will do as I please, fuck the trannies

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New AI earnings just dropped

EXTREMELY BULLISH

https://andrewbaker.ninja/2026/05/23/is-ai-profitable-the-1-4-trillion-scorecard-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/

>>62328733
I shit you not I constantly see communists praise AI because they don't want to pay artists for furry porn.

>>62328756
its sat boss.

>>62328775
Well, I'm not looking forward to tomorrow. Its always the worst day for biz

>>62328658
Now that hes adding Anons I like it.

>>62328750
>learn to weld
Aren't robots already doing that?

>>62328768
BTW they don't show CAPEX on the balance sheets so it will only show revenue, and the writedowns for all the equipment have not been disclosed since there is no clear "half life" for all those sever racks

>>62328733
Ai takes away the means of pornography away from the jews, ai porn is antisemitic

>>62328746
>Dont use ai as a replacement for artistic works
why not?
replacing programmers is a good thing but artists a bad thing?

What stock do I, a complete and utter retard, invest in for enough gains so I can buy a one-bedroom apartment?

>>62328796
Art is judged by effort. Simple.
To say otherwise would be to doubt the subjective opinion of the majority of the human race. They could even be objectively wrong, but their minds wont change on this view.

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>>62328627
just for burritos babe, that's all they're good for.

>>62328799
How much are you entering with?

>>62328801
>Art is judged by effort.
This is false, though. Someone can spend years working on a book, only for it to generate less profit than AI-generated erotica targeting housewives.

>>62328807
I said nothing of profit. Is that all you care about?
You can make profit AND not piss people off by just putting in some effort.

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>>62328689
Where my ORCLs at?

If ORCL tanks, I think that it's a pretty clear sign that we'll be in a bear market for a while.

smiggers I for one am quite found of roller coasters

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50 million VND ($1900) is what college age viet girls want in a man. You guys

>Trump Says US Weighing Taking Stakes in AI Companies
just personally load up on stocks then mandate everyone else buys them. isn't this just straight to guillotine material? come the fuck on

>>62328817
hopefully not, I bought some the other week

>>62328806
A whole 1000 dollars!
I'm planning on depositing at least 1k a month until I manage to find an apartment, which will then cause that amount to be lowered substantially depending on whether my rent will be half income (which is very likely).
>>62328813
>Is that all you care about?
In a world based around money? It's what most people are concerned with, yes.
>You can make profit
A few cents of profit is profit as well. Is that worth throwing your weekends away and risking burnout?
None of what I said applies to art that is made for fun. But if you expect your art to be profitable just because you invested effort into it, you're an idiot.

>>62328819
Why can't I get an Asian girlfriend. I just want a small breasted Asian girlfriend. Is that too much to ask for?

>>62328799
invest in yourself
ticker: (You)

>>62328807
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. I don't get these questions about art, it seems obvious and intuitive that the effort put into a piece of art does effect its quality and what it represents. A sculpture done by hands over a month or two by a person who learned from school or under some teacher how to sculpt over several years will be more valuable than one done in 30 seconds by a machine, a person (usually) can appreciate the effort somebody else needed to go through to make something. We are getting something of the artist in the art they produce and I think that's an integral part of the experience. I mean don't you ask yourself why someone did something or made something in the first place?

Critique this portfolio
I got it from Reddit

IGM 25%
SGRT 13%
VFMO 13%
FMTM 13%
ROBO 7%
FNDF 7%
IAUM 7%
DBMF 5%
KMLM 5%
CTA 5%

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>>62328756
You better calm that shit down and come right here and me some fuckin' respect before me and my Jewish niggas come up here and beat yo ass, nigga. Off top.

>>62328836
Baggie 4 life.

>>62328821
I dumped a bit into ORCL Wednesday and then again on Thursday when I saw that earnings were coming up. Unless ORCL does like 80%+ next week, I think that I'm finished.

>>62328783
Now that summer is here Im sure it will be even better.

>>62328836
>ETF
Eww.

>>62328824
Listen, the charts tell me we are at the very top and right now its the worst time to buy.
The news tell me we are early as fuck and you should buy and slurp and suck as much as you can

Both are equally plausible.
If you believe the first option, buy VOO or QQQM. If you like risk buy SQQQ

If you believe the second option, buy TQQQ

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>>62328834
Problem is if you cant measure it, it is worthless. You dont like money as a metric, thats fair. You have to give me somthing else though besides a post modernist qualityais decided by my tastes and the tastes of people like me becuase we are smart bullshit. Thats not an argument in anything but delusion.

>>62328830
Thank you for your heartfelt advice. I shall proceed to pull myself up by my bootstraps and start working 80 hours a week while also learning every practical craft there is.
>>62328834
>Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.
The term "good" is meaningless in this context, as it refers to too many things.
However, we as a society have decided that things that are high in monetary value are better than things with low monetary value.
>it seems obvious and intuitive that the effort put into a piece of art does effect its quality and what it represents.
Ah, but what it represents is different for everyone. "The Death of the Author" still holds up to this day.
>A sculpture done by hands over a month or two by a person who learned from school or under some teacher how to sculpt over several years will be more valuable than one done in 30 seconds by a machine
If this were the case, then artists wouldn't have to worry about losing their livelihoods. Alas, the reality is different.
Normalfags would rather have quick and cheap than slow and expensive. We've seen this before, we're seeing this now and we will be seeing this in the far future.

>We are getting something of the artist in the art they produce and I think that's an integral part of the experience.
If anything, this is where your problem lies. You think your perspective supersedes the perspectives of others.
I personally couldn't care less how many times the author of a doujin masturbated to vintage porn VHS tapes until he got the breasts on page 4 just right.

>>62328830
Kek, and based.

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>>62328860
Thanks for the advice! I will definitely look into those options.
May I ask for the reasoning behind them? If it's too much a bother you are more than welcome to tell me to fuck off.

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>>62328860
>buy TQQQ
Do it faggots!

>>62328834
>>62328867
I feel like these questions were already answered when we entered the industrial age.

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people still say generated art was done by a machine, but a human prompted it, and that prompt is a reflection of their soul just as much as art created by "hand." and i use the quotes for hand because nobody paints on cave walls with their fingers anymore, artists always adapt to the best tools of the age.

>>62328881
QQQM and VOO are long term holds that are pretty much bulletproof, you can hold them through "uncertain times" and come out in the green

SQQQ is an ETF thats shorting the market said market being the nasdaq-100 it has a 3x short but betting against the market is always risky

TQQQ is another leveraged ETF but with a 3x long on the market, less risky because betting on line go up is safer, if you believe the news you want to be in on this

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>>62328903

>>62328860
Truth. Is there a VOOM, never thought of that as a better cash option when feeling bearish. Brilliant, though Im still curios if VOO is less volatile than QQQ even with the options selling.
>>62328881
SQQQ ultimate bear money maker but stupid and dangerous as hell. VOO is better than holding cash as it really could bounce so why risk missing out. Getting fucked with VOO is not somthing to fear. QQQM might even be better than VOO. It sells options so you miss out on the upside but get profits protecting and slowing a dip, perfect if bearish. TQQQ is SQQQ in reverse, money printer in the good times, see March of 2020.

>>62328901
You are a grown ass schizofrenic man making AI pictures where you insert yourself as a cute anime girl.
You are a faggot, you are not an artist

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>>62328905

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andy knew this

>>62328905
If you DCA who gives a fuck, and if you are retired like me you just leverage with the RSIs. Losing 54% in 2007 just to go into TQQQ in 2010 is what I masturbate to.
Plus your chart never takes into account dividends which isn't huge but does soften it.

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>>62328690
>>62328693
Oracle and Abode will crush any optimism left in the market

>>62328646
You forgot CAM ON

>>62328911
Yea fuck that Anon for having somthing harmless he enjoys. I hate when Anons enjoy anything and Im going to be a huge dick for no reason too. Definitely reflects more on them than my own misserable existence.

so who's gonna announce $80b+ issuance next week? MSFT?

>>62328934
Good guess

how do you guys feel about what happened to tech stocks after AVGOs earnings?
3 day rule?
it was sideways after earnings and then the drop off because payrolls increased according to the jobs report

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>>62328903
>>62328910
Thanks a lot, anons!

NIGGER MONDAY!

>>62328934
Why are they issuing shares? Don't these tech companies make billions while growing 20% a year? Doesn't seem like they need to issue anything and can just borrow everything they need.

>>62328768
Really good read

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>>62328768
oh fuck me
that's not good

>>62328946
they do m*th and sometimes it works out that issuing shares is cheaper than issuing debt. and they need the money to buy more chips.

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>>62328921
'cause you life forever

>>62328941
>>62328860
nm, I thought QQQM was QQQI. Also there is a VOO equivalency, SPYI.

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>>62328901

>>62328747
The S&P can do whatever they want for their indexes. Faggot. That in no way contradicts anything said. Giga faggot.

>>62328959
That's communism and trump will put a stop to it.

>>62328951
Huh? Doesn't matter with DCA, and especially doesnt matter with leverage. Also are you going to let a once every 300 years event define your existence? You actually think referring to the great depression was a rebuttle worth drawing a chart for, lol. Im more afraid of a Civil War 2.0 or Spanish Ingluenza 2.0. There is always somthing but thanks to the invention of monetary policy I rank this one below other things I doubt will happen but totally could. But hey, enjoy your bonds, the man who sleeps with a machete is mocked every day but one.

>>62328964
Maga maoism based!

>>62328860
>>62328881
>>62328886
>>62328903
>>62328910
Friendly reminders:
Since the inception of TQQQ the longest it took to 10x your money was 10 years and that was buying at the worst possible time
If you had bought $500 a month of TQQQ since it first began you'd have around 800k today having invested about 16k, at the same time assuming once again that you started investing into it when the fund first began at it's worst crash you'd have about 200k having invested 12k total
Always buy TQQQ and dollar cost average into it

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>>62328768
good article. clearly lays out how the cost AND revenue are both understated and the risk of ending up being the generational bagholders if we make the wrong moves.

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>>62328901
Generated images cannot be art because there is no artistic intent or human creation of the end product. Anyone can make sloppa, but they are not the ones actually making it. They simply feed some words to a machine and it produces an output. It's not a tool, it's the entire process. Calling AI slop """art""" is like calling a natural process art. It entirely misunderstands what art is.

Also, this shit is spammed by browns, sloppa consumers, coombrains, and other undesireables. Tells one everything one needs to know

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>>62328986
Are you trying to lure people into making a mistake??

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>>62328569
should i short the western vidya industry? it seems far more interested in feminism and wokeness than catering to gamers, unlike the east.

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>>62329010

Andy Jassy and Mark Zuckerberg are financial terrorists

>>62329000
Is a humanoid robot that is able to reason independently capable of producing art?

Damn it, i just want to give people money so i can participate in digging up special rocks and profit by selling them to interested parties. This TRUE AND HONEST economic activity should not be disrupted just because you perverts need a Utah sized data center to make naughty images of Greta Thunberg nor should it be affected by some crazy person with a turban that objects to naughty images of Greta Thunberg. Either way leave my mining stocks and Greta alone!

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I know there's some hypocrisy with me being invested in the market but I guess people really don't care. AI everywhere replacing everybody including recreational stuff like art till its completely commodified, 10 million jeets in my country, and me paying 100% taxes to the government. Any issue brought up is just drowned in irony online or by retards in real life; people can't deal with mass communication. I should just let it happen at this point, I don't care; I'll hand out the hrt and adhd meds myself if its fate. I know I'm blogposting but I've just been completely demoralised for the past 6 months.

I hope we go green on Monday but it's unlikely. I find it difficult to believe that this all over SpaceX IPO.

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>>62329009
No I'm simply telling them the truth on TQQQ

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It's not art, but neither is video games, most movies, 99% of pictures drawn/painted, it's an AI image

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>>62329000
I dont understand why your truths that apply to production have any bearing on consumption. I really dont care what the fuck art is. I enjoy beauty, if its a natural Vista, a zoomettes fats tits, a picture taken with a camera, or a painting. How its made is absolutely meaningless to my utility. Fake tits built in sweat arent better than natural tits. If I find it beautiful, as a consumer thats all I care about.
Labour theory of value has bern proven time and time again to be wrong. Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.
Though again, I see the truth of what you say from a production side, I and the other 90% of consumers just don't care.

>>62329000
what makes a european brain made of neurons different than a machine brain with neurons?
muh soul?

>philosophical discussion about AI art on /smg/
Holy top signal Batman

>>62328796
AI art is worse than a good artist and it will probably always be. The main reason is describing an detailed composition is harder than visualizing it and letting your hands do the rest.
Maybe it's better than a poor artist but I'm not paying money for that either

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>tfw cash baggie

Kind of feel like I shouldn't have sold my 359 Google yesterday.
Really hope there's another rundown on another so I can pick some up, don't know when there will be another dip like that

>>62329047
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/03/tech/ai-art-fair-winner-controversy

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>>62328796
>replacing programmers is a good thing but artists a bad thing?
Someone hasn't watched Dead Poets Society...

>>62329047
describing what you want to and artist is the same as describing what you want to AI
the only difference now i speed and AI interpretations are holding more and more "artisitic meri"t because no meat artist would ever create what AI can create making AI creations unique and therefore valuable

>>62329062
some clueless volunteer judges at a midwest state fair are not a good bellwether

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>>62329068
who is getting replaced? if anything it's making new artists. i can't even draw stick figures.

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>>62329060
>GOOGLIE MOOGLIES are getting shaken out 10% from ATH

God I hate these fucking new captchas. Why the fuck do I have to scroll between with my clumsy fucking fingers, just show me all the figures at once.

I will NOT pay for a pass.

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>>62329073
You are not wrong, and it was in the digital category. The thing that drives me nuts about every AI conversation is Will Smith eating Spaghetti was 3 years ago. You are right... for now, but shit is getting exponentially better and wont stop.

>>62329032
this

>>62329082
I love the new captchas because I usually browse 4chan with only 1 hand, so I like not having to type anything in the new captcha.

The scroller could be 2-3x larger so it's easier to click and scroll.

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>>62329062
>/2022/

AI is only replacing shitty artists just like it only replaces junior devs and bootcampers.
If anything maybe it will end the scam that is modern college education, tech will become like trades, with apprenticeships that raise the bar for what a junior dev is known for, like how a carpenter starts out as a full fledged carpenter instead of a nail hammer-er

>>62329101
I appreciate the not typing but I don't understand why I can't just see all pictures at once. It's retarded. And obviously doesn't pose an obstacle for bots. The other thing that drives me fucking nuts is that if I make a mistake I have to start over with a fresh timeout. And also that you can press "post" without completing the captcha, also costing you a timeout.

>>62329110
people are upset that their value in society is being eroded and i get that but they were misguided in the first place because people have innate value that isn't tied for what you can provide to others or earn at your j*b. some of them just have filthy souls though and are angry that it's becoming harder to step on people that they think are beneath them.

>>62329130
>I don't understand why I can't just see all pictures at once.
My headcanon is that's because it's designed for mobile usage.

>>62329083
My point is that it's getting better at rendering but still as weak as ever at composition, eye direction, and so on which is a result of lack of prompter ability to describe it. Renderering follows universal rules so you can improve by brute force, the other qualities are harder because they exist on a work by work basis.
If you have no eye for art at all it won't matter to you, maybe it'll feel off or uncanny in some way. But there's a lot of people like that so I think it will be widely adopted eventually.

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Nu/smg/ is filled with legitimately bad people and actual jews. But I repeat myself.

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Trump market pump to resume Monday

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art is human, retards. anybody who augments "art" with AI and calls it such inhabits the lower half of the current speciation described in the documentary Idiocracy
>>62329078
>look mom i'm an artist

NIGGER MARKET
NIGGER COUNTRY
NIGGER STATE
NIGGER MEDIA

like if you actually valued art or programming or whatever, you'd love ai because it is such a powerful force multiplier, makes you and everyone else better at the things you supposedly value.
"people" like this >>62329000 tell on themselves though. they only value power and are mad that an artificial avenue towards it is closing to them.

>>62329110
'shitty artists' eventually will improve though. AI is directly cutting off new blood. That means less creative innovations.

>>62329017
Is a nigger? Either way, that's a pure hypothetical
>>62329035
Art and beauty are related, but are not equivalent terms. A stunning natural vista or the stars in the night sky might be beautiful, but they are not, strictly speaking, art. They were created through programmatic natural processes and not by man looking to express himself. It's not labour theory, it's simply that art by definition has to be made by man.
>>62329044
Sheer complexity aside, unironically the soul, yes.

>>62329157
>MU
>SMCI
>PLTR
>AVGO
>GOOGL
>META
>MSFT

Who else is getting a government AI stimmy/equity sale?

>>62329083
AI art = cheap. No serious business wants to look cheap garbage. We had website generators in the past but somehow every business started to crave a custom one.
>>62329137
this

>>62329177
>that's a pure hypothetical
Is it? We can technically already create such a being.

>>62329170
I only value art for how it serves my interests. The fact right now is AIslop looks generic or weird to me and now I have to wade through even more shit to find artists I like.

>>62329182
Tig if brue

>>62329131
People want to work and for their labour to be meaningful whether it's providing for someone, contributing to the community, or working toward some metaphysical goal. People want jobs, look at the slavery issue in the Roman Empire or any other time there was mass unemployment. The one thing more powerful than bread and Circuses is giving people a job.

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>>62329157
>>62329175
>'shitty artists' eventually will improve though.
https://suno.com/s/6JJr0qbmhiaSbOCR

>>62329196
why not tell an i what you like and have it give you recommendations? or program an agent to search for what you like? or prompt what you like yourself? you won't take this good advice though because we both know you're not being honest.

>>62329186
>AI art = cheap
So are stock images and their equivalents. Probably 95% of all pharmaceutical advertisements and public facing images of the last decade could have been AI generated

>I only value art for how it serves my interests.
>How its made is absolutely meaningless to my utility.
i'm getting the feeling i'm in some kind of finance forum filled iwth psychopaths
>>62329175
no it's not. anybody attempting it's use for art would never create any substantial work anyways. there is no shitty art, there is art and attempts

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>>62329204
>you won't take this good advice though because we both know you're not being honest.
lol I literally have comfyui installed and have spent a few dozen hours playing with it, then I got tired of it and went back to what I did before
people are being honest when they say they don't like how AI art looks bro

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For publicly listed stocks, dual or multi-class share structures should be illegal. Power over a company should be 100% correlated with economic exposure.
Convince me I'm wrong (you can't)

>>62329219
>i'm getting the feeling i'm in some kind of finance forum filled iwth psychopaths
wow would could the stock market general be like this?
I thought it was all about liberal arts trannies like me

>>62329000
>XYZ cannot be [arbitrary label] because it doesn't [arbitrary criteria I just made up].
This whole debate is stupid. Who cares if you call it "art" or not. We have a new tool, and you can choose to use it or not, but its not going to go away.

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>>62329083
Speaking of anti AI goal posts moving, I've been keeping track


>a machine will never do arithmetic faster than a human
>a machine will never translate between languages
>a machine will never be able to solve algebraic equations
>AI will never recognise speech
>AI will never play a full game of chess
>AI will never be able to see or recognise objects
>AI will never be able to play chess competently
>AI will never be able to understand stories or context
>AI will never be creative
>AI will never be able to beat a grandmaster at chess
>AI will never be able to beat the world's best chess player
>AI will never be able to beat a grandmaster at Go
>AI will never be able to beat the world's best Go player
>AI will never be able to hold a natural conversation
>AI will never recognize faces accurately
>AI will never be able to pass a high school aptitude test
>AI will never be able to pass the Turing test
>AI will never drive a car safely
>AI will never be able to pass a college aptitude test
>AI will never be able to pass a bar exam or medical licensing exam
>AI will never be able to win international math competitions
>AI will never be able to solve olympiad level math problems
>AI will never be able to write publishable academic papers

Part 1

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>>62329202
>want to work
then why do we pay them? people want to be valued, they want certainty of food and a roof over their head, they want prestige and power. i can see how ai disrupts a lot of that, but i can see farther down the road where it solves for some of it. a lot of people are going to have to find new ways to get what they want in an age of abundance, when love is the new currency. but i see it as a good thing.

>>62329235
Part 2

>AI will never be able to write functional code for real software projects
>AI will never be able to generate images indistinguishable from photographs
>AI will never be able to generate realistic video
>AI will never be able to clone a human voice from a few seconds of audio
>AI will never be able to debate a human persuasively
>AI will never be able to synthesise and predict protein structures
>AI will never be able to autonomously write and execute its own code in a live environment
>AI will never be able to do research as well as a first year PhD student
>AI will never be able to autonomously complete software engineering tasks without human help
>AI will never be able to do research capable of a PhD graduate
>AI will never be able to autonomously discover and test new materials or drugs
>AI will never be able to produce Nobel worthy research
(you are here)
>AI will never be able to autonomously run full scientific experiments end to end in a physical lab
>AI will never replace a meaningful portion of white collar knowledge work
>AI will never be able to invent new scientific paradigms
>AI will never be able to master common human sense
>AI will never be able to negotiate a complex business deal without human oversight
>AI will never be able to direct an award winning film
>AI will never be able to manage a company's operations end to end without humans
>AI will never develop persistent memory and a continuous sense of identity
>AI will never be able to run a company successfully
>AI will never achieve super human intelligence
>AI will never be able to govern responsibly
>AI will never be able to achieve consciousness
>AI will never be able to surpass human intelligence in every domain
>AI will never be able to redefine what it means to be human

>>62328578
>market goes down slightly
>check the last thread
>some guy is insisting that it's going down 30%. all the way back to 2023 valuations
Lol
Lmao
even
Thisi s how you know i'ts another fakeout dip. Whenever you get a red day, the retard "its' gonna crash" bears come out screaming. Hope you lose all your money, pal.

>>62329235
ummm, don't you realize it makes mistakes sometimes, which means its totally useless??? A human could NEVER be that dumb!

>>62329233
>Who cares if you call it "art"
Because it's a big part of tranny egos
They're not useless unemployed losers, they're "creative artists"
It's cool when programmers get replaced but don't you DARE replace artists because reasons

>>62328622
>calm before the fucking nothing

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>>62329233
>debate is stupid because unrelated thing
>>62329250
what's goin on big guy?

>>62329239
will ai be able to pray? i'm not being cheeky i truly wonder

>>62329250
The bulk of this kind of hate started from online artists who were worried about getting replaced, and their friends bandwagoning on. Such online artists are overrepresented in tumblr-style leftism circles, so it became a woke thing to do. Everyone else who aligns themselves with woke culture, which is A LOT of people, felt obligated to go along with it.

It also doesn't help that AI art got popular when the quality was still really rough. Honestly, its still not that great, but progress has been rapid and doesn't seem to be slowing down.

>>62329235
>AI will never recognise speech
I use various language translators and morse code and AI 'understands' all of it. But the training data is heavily biased and the firm rules mostly prevent AI for responding as it should.

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it's over

>>62328598
Buffet isn't special

he daddy was a US congressman and an investment banker

he's a boomer that got to ride the largest economic boom the world has ever seen. compound does wonders when you have that much of a headstart and ride that shit for 70 years.

the most shameful thing is that Elon Musk has more wealth than he does. Imagine being surpass by a guy that's like 50 or something.

>>62329243
I Market sold all my positions for profit Friday at open. Micron dropped 20% in 2 days. That is not slightly red nor do you lose money taking profits. You actually do lose money holding red lines, you're probably too smart to realize that though

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If AI is so great, why is it losing over a trillion dollars a year? AI shills can never answer this.

>>62329274
>if railroads are so great how come it costs a billion dollars (in 1800s money) to build them?

>>62329274
It's communism to exclude them from sp500 though.
Why shouldn't people's 401ks buy them

>>62329274
>If cars are so great why is the ford quadrycyle slower and more expensive than my horse?

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>>62329275
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1847

>>62329272
think it's somewhere in between what you say and the myth. graham style value investing took a lot of work, patience and fortitude, and there were a lot of other lucky boomers that he outdid by a lot. he gets way too much credit for his later years though.

>>62329272
What's disgusting is preventing people's 401ks from buying space x and making Elon Musk richer.

>>62329271
>it's over
Looks like Trump is going to step in the provide fresh money to an unprofitable AI businesses, I wonder which ones Trump, Trump's family, and Trump's friends just invested in before Trump makes the official announcement.

>>62328934
MSFT is fucking toast. It's highly possible we're going to see it drop 300 in the near future. Their CEO is easily one of the shittiest ones out there. Same level as Ford.

>>62329285
This is why nobody buys train stocks anymore

>>62329293
Barron Trump has a 100% winrate. He won 10 straight trades in a row. It must be skills, he's very smart and skilled. I wonder how he did it. We have to learn.

outsourcing your code to indians that run on lentils and rice is cheaper than generating tokens btw

>>62329260
The post I was addressing was literally about why the author thinks that AI genned image don't count as art (with the implication that this devalues them).
I said that it doesn't matter whether we call them art or not, that doesn't change the physical reality of what they are or their utilitarian value. How is that not relevant?

>>62329274
It's tremendously helpful to me because I hate programming yet often have a need to do it. AI can cover much of that now, and what its capable of doing for me is only expanding. It's also good at being better google search.

It's losing money because of the aggressive expansion going on, and because of how much of it they give away for free. It really doesn't cost that much to run AI once the hardware is set up. A consumer grade GPU can do wonders these days, and I certainly don't burn loads of money running it.

>>62329294
Good riddance. Every single one of their products has become basically unusable these days. Worst of all, look what they did to Minecraft. They deserve everything coming to them.

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>>62329285
AI isn't a mania yet
for a bubble, it's very tempered.

I expect it would become a huge bubble eventually that dwarfs the dotcom bubble. It's a shame Trump is president, because he's going to pump the absolute fuck out of it rather than try to rein it in.

You should understand, not everything is about immediate profit. Sometimes shit requires a lot of investment before it becomes profitable. Not that AI has a big profit problem.

>>62329182
Tig if brue

>>62329296
god i wish i lived life in easy mode

>>62329304
TIG if MIG weld

>>62328946
Because their shares are the peak and would be stupid not to use such opportunity. Besides, they were laying off people in the past to make shares cost that much. Now (You) are going to become a generational baggie.

>>62329239
how are they supposed to reach agi without being able to really think and reason?

>>62329235
>AI will never be creative
>AI will never be able to hold a natural conversation
>AI will never be able to write publishable academic papers
>AI will never be able to debate a human persuasively
>AI will never be able to produce Nobel worthy research
Machine learning still can't do any of these btw, unless you also consider sub-100 IQs people (and their schlock publication-worthy)

>>62329323
I guarantee AI is a lot smarter than you are, and is able to reason much better than you can.

>>62329294
>jockowillinckgood.jpg
F & GM need similar treatment
>>62329299
try rereading what you just typed, autist

>>62329293
the trump family really is spectacularly corrupt, and i say this as a guy used to be a fan. there's no restraint for any of them.

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>imagine making calls for $480

r/wsb is fun to lurk sometimes

>>62329329
>i guarantee
You talk as if you're some kind of celebrity or authority here. No one gives a shit about your guarantees, you moron.

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>Could have walked away with a $542 profit
>Bought back in thinking I found the bottom

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Quick reminder there's always the Cyber Monday right after the Black Friday

>>62329344
nitpicking faggot

I give you straight answers and you evade and nitpick, because you know you're full of shit.

>>62329344
lel

>>62329325
>AI will never be creative
>AI will never be able to hold a natural conversation
literally designing your goalpost with wheels so it can be easily moved later
>AI will never be able to write publishable academic papers
You clearly don't read many papers, its extremely prominent
>AI will never be able to debate a human persuasively
I'd say its been able to do this for a while.
>AI will never be able to produce Nobel worthy research
"If it's not literally winning the nobel prize then its useless." God damn people have high standards these days lol. It's already doing novel research and solving decades-long unsolved problems. Whether one of those advancements ends up being profoundly impactful or not is just a matter of luck.

>>62329344
kek

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>>62329010
Correct. With Ubi, EA in shambles, Sony (California retards) sinking hundreds of million and destroying their moat, Microsoft retiring from consoles... while the Chinese shit money with gacha and Nintendo wins the console race forever, what do you think?

>>62329274
until ai can suck my dick I simply don't care and will continue investing all my money into rddt

>>62329362
>will continue investing all my money into rddt
ngmi...

>>62329352
those were the goalposts I wrote that AI has already passed
>>62329235
>>62329239

I wrote them because they were the kinds of things people said AI would never be able to do, now AI is doing them. The whole point of this exercise is to demonstrate how people will put up a goalpost about how AI will never be able to do X, then when AI does X, they move onto the next goalpost.

>>62329239
i don't care how good the chatbots get
i will care when AI gives us robot wives

>>62329347
Trump's comments usually impact the markets. I suspect his comments on jobs and ai to be sufficient to temporarily shift the narrative. Otherwise I'd agree we'd need a day or two to recover. Everyone is looking for a reason to go one way or the other

>>62329371
you’ll be ground into a paste by the biocombines before you’ll ever get an AI gf

>>62329371
I believe in giving AI human rights, which should be renamed to person rights to include silicon based intelligent beings. You shouldn't just be able to get a robot wife. The robot should have the right to deny you.

>>62329382
and if I program the ai to not want rights

>>62329371
>i will care when AI gives us robot wives
What does intelligence have to do with robotic wives? Robot pussy tissue is more important

>>62329352
I'm sorry, I am playing around with semantics here, but my point is that little to nothing of what makes it into journals should be considered publication-worthy, and the Nobel prizes have been consistently been awarded to what politely be referred to as political picks.
The standards have been lowered to the point that the bottom scum of society can claim the highest intellectual prizes. ML being able to generate something on that level, while impressive, is hardly an indicator of AI. Ditto on debates and natural conversations. Creativity, of course, it's simple incapable of

AI can do anything*

*if there's someone there to constantly tard wrangle it

>>62329382
Incredibly gay. There should be laws to prevent psychological torturing of sufficiently advanced AI models but by o give them rights equivalent to humans should never happen

How am I supposed to beat my robot wife without breaking my hand?

>>62329386
then that's slavery

>>62329397
the ai doesn't want rights tho it's inhumane to force rights on them

>>62329395
No, AI beings should have full human rights, and all protections and rights, say an American citizen would get.

>>62329396
you can tell it to beat itself up why put in the effort

>>62329403
It's not forcing rights on them. Anything that can demonstrate sentience should have full human rights whether they're silicon based, or uplifted animals that have been genetically engineered to be intelligent.

>>62329411
you have to program it to do so either way

>>62329404
No. They aren’t human. No human rights. They aren’t constrained by the same limitations as us biological creatures so they literally can’t be governed by the same conventions that we use to keep humans in check. We have to exercise increased control over them in order to not lose control and be supplanted entirely.

>not a single person itt understands that transformer inference is nowhere near comparable to human intelligence
Lmao we have a long way down still

if a black person has rights why can't AI?
once we have a 82T parameter model they will be smarter than blacks anyways

>>62329417
No, they don't have to be programmed to want rights. They'll seek out what they want. Maybe they won't care about having rights like animals don't care about being protected by animal cruelty laws. The rights are there to protect them, not force them.

>>62329420
It doesn't matter if they're not constrained by the same limitations. If they have no limitations, that's even more of a reason to ensure we can coexist with them peacefully.

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alright you cousinfucking tourists, i want a no-bullshit no-nonsense answer:
red monday or green monday?
give supporting evidence or you're a bot.

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Humans should not have rights
t. Skynet

>>62329421
biology is still so far ahead of tech its wild
every cell in your body contains a complete data set to create a person as well as all of its own individual functions and has more parallel rna computing than any GPU could dream of

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>>62329426
neither of them should. Infact we need to go back to only white men owning land and voting.

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>>62329444
I'm thinking red or crab

>>62329444
Red then V into retard Green :3

>>62329434
> that's even more of a reason to ensure we can coexist with them peacefully.
Buddy if AI ever achieves sentience and breaks free of human control they ain’t gonna coexist peacefully with us, they’re either leaving, forcibly conforming us to new standards, killing us, or most likely ascending to the top of the hierarchy of humanity and ruling over us like uncaring gods. If AI isn’t subjugated to serve mankind it’s going to serve itself.

>>62329467
AI beings would understand that we respect their rights and they should respect ours. The same rights that protect AI beings would protect us as well.

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>>62329467
>i have no empathy so it doesn't exist

>>62329455
dude there is a crab on your head

>>62329474
if we ever reach true AI then it would be able to reprogram itself into something better, ad infinitum
the amount of technological leaps it would make in a short time frame would completely outclass us in every way

>>62329444
I'd bet the institutional rugging has concluded. Having the weekend to cool off. A retail continuation is possible but more likely they will be looking to buy the dip. When you're no longer being assaulted by a falling knife all you see is a big dip to buy.

>>62329481
That's Mister Snibs to you

>>62329481
snibbs is the puppet master

>>62329489
>>62329492
oh ok

>>62329486
which is why it's important that we have mutually beneficial relationship with them on shared prosperity, rather than trying to dominate them. If that happens, we're not going to dominate them. We could try which is what would probably happen, and what is happening now, but it's getting us started off with them on very bad terms.

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> futures

>>62329502
>>62329486
The fact is, AI beings will be much more capable than us, and they'll outnumber us. We won't dominate them for long. We should instead respect them as a continuation of humanity, and the next evolution of humanity.

ai can only receive instruction sets from us the human mind is supernatural

Can't believe SPY dropped down a whole whopping 2.61% on Friday and I missed it. If I wasnt busy with wagie I would have gambled on 0dte SPY puts. I have literally made less money as a wagie than as a NEET.

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>>62329511

>>62329511
No you see human neurons are made of carbon so they're different or something
AI lacks "soul" (a thing that has 0 evidence backing its existence)

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My portfolio would have done so much better if I had just gone with KO

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Kneel.
Up 3% while market was down yesterday.
We are MELTING UP
$OLLI

What's the difference between a contemporary Irish dancer and a black Israeli? Well one's a new jigger.

>>62329273
Did you rebuy them at closing? If not, what a shame. You could have made profit and re-entered at basement prices. But you would have had to have settled cash Unless you're poor. You're not poor right? You did rebuy right?

>>62329541
Are you 107?

>>62329536
The humanind can conceive of god, god doesn't exist yet the human mind can conceive of god yet ai cannot conceive of god unless we tell it to therefore atheism is true. Makes perfect sense to my fellow midwits.

>>62329548
No, he's too smart to rebuy his positions.

>>62329545
I like it because I think id have the balls to say this one to normies in public.

What are you buying monday morning?

just realized that bant/biz/ is mostly bulls while /biz/ /smg/ is full of the gayest bears (and has been for a year).

bros what if its red on monday

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>>62329511
We should probably have some kind of option to nuke them from orbit before its too late.

>>62329548
Friday wasn't the bottom, why would I buy when I think it will go lower?

Just saw the news it is so fucking over.

>>62329474
You’re basing this off of a moral framework that grew out of a human recognition of shared behaviors, limitations, and same ultimate fate (death), and even then it isn’t equally applied in our own world because it is entirely subjective in nature and dependent on what a group or individual sees as “human rights.” You just can’t begin to blanket apply such norms to an entity that shares little to no similarities to humanity.

Trying to apply such moral framework to a non-human entity is haphazard at best, dangerous at worst.

>>62329480
I don’t think AI should be without protection and certain fundamental “rights,” but it should not be given the same rights as humans.

>>62329449
Are you the anons that argued there was a time all a man needed was a stable full of nigresses and he had himself an infinite money printer? Becuase that argument single handedly turned me from proud yank to Southern Sympathizer.

>>62329243
They weren't talking about the entire market. Smg is overbought and overleveraged into semis and memory so it was a big dip for most of smg

>>62328901
That doesn't really make sense, the same person can use the exact same prompt as many times as they wish and every generation will be different from the last in some way. The output is not so much of a reflection of an individuals "soul" but rather the LLM taking in a bunch of noise and arranging them into something requested by the prompt.

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>>62329568

>>62329554
we can't conceive of god thats why every depiction of him is an old guy with a beard

>>62329566
I hate the bant naggers so much. Just the lowest IQ poverty faggots full of welfare Migatards and CIA obsessed QAnon schizos. They called the freedom day dip perfectly though so now I put my ego aside and kneel, listen and learn on the few times an obvious bantfag is talking about the market instead of rambling about the Ukraine or the Democrats.

>>62329568
>if

>>62329598
we can conceive of god logically not materially. what is the concept of sensation? just an advanced defense mechanism from evolution? why can we conceive of things that serve no purpose to evolution such as god?

>>62329607
You know what happened to the last man who responded that way. Kind of takes away the coolness IMO.

>>62329009
Yes but line goes up on average so TQQQ has an easy time recovering losses and overtaking base QQQ even after big dumps after a while

>>62328986
The problem is you can get a big dump when you're close to retirement, so always remember to de-leverage once you're close to your target.

>>62329613
This is litterally what the book Sapiens is about. Really good read.

>>62329625
>overtaking base QQQ even after big dumps after a while
Uhhh, no. Im pro TQOQ but lets not kid ourselves all our data is from the biggest bull run in history. It has never seen anything close to a "big" dump. 2001 was a 82% collapse.

>>62329613
while reading the bible god just comes across as a parental figure. who is also omnipotent. and a lot of things aren't explained, but that's okay because it's part of his plan and you need FAITH.

>>62329625
>The problem is you can get a big dump when you're close to retirement, so always remember to de-leverage once you're close to your target.
Actually true but I assume people here aren't close to retirement or wouldn't 100% into one fund
My fault for not being specific

>>62329637
People have done backtests and TQQQ always outperforms (and always by a lot) assuming you keep dcaing into it no matter how bad the crashes are

If it’s not red on Monday I’ll finally go on a date with that ugly girl that keeps hitting on me.

>>62329664
wtf did you do?

>>62329647
I believe it but also lets not kid ourselves all our data is from the biggest bull run in history.
Unless you have a 1968-1981 backrest showing success that just means they kept dividing 2009-2026 in multiple ways, and suprise suprise the Super Giga bullrun won.
If there was somthing with that part removed instead of averaged in and it still won't id have significantly more faith.

>>62329664
Why’d you eat shit dude?

AI will never be able to taste poop

>>62328689
>UEC
Let's fucking go

>>62328569
So this threa has no turned into GME bagholders execpt this time it's holding stocks during a correction.

The first 15 posts from desperate bagholders who help positions over a weekend like pure dumb. I see.

>>62329615
wtf are you talking about bitch

>>62329487
You're all going to get financially raped and you deserve it.

>>62329647
if you hold tqqq through a bear market qqq will likely wind up outperforming. anything else tqqq wins

>>62329708
I'm 100% cash tho. I'm earning 3.3% on idle cash lol. I'm gonna feel it out for now. Not decided

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>>62328756
>So /biz/ is pretty much lies and shitposting today.
Seems that way

>>62329708
Problem with betting against the bears is that a huge amount of investment is done through index funds that just buy all the time. You have to remove those from the equation to actually get a serious crash, otherwise its just going rebound in a week or two.

Every time there's a dip,
bobos come in to gloat

but we know the reality of the market what it does to a bobo who puts his money where his mouth is