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The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

>>18658326
alr niggas how many bottles are needed to have a "collection"?

>>18658342
100+

>>18658350
filtered

>>18657743
Since nobody replied in the last thread, what does /frag/ think of Mancera? I haven't tested any of their perfumes yet, but reviews seem all over the place. Some people love them, others say they smell synthetic. I really don't want to spend €70 (5x 8 mL samples) on a bunch of overly sweet, synthetic scents.
>>18658342
No need to hoard full bottles like a nigger. A handful of solid go-to bottles is plenty. For the rest, you’re better off buying decants.

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What's the verdict on the EdP?

SOTD Dior Homme
I can't get enough of the iris smell in the drydown

>>18658390
The OG smells like Sprite or 7up. Never smelled the EDP before.

>>18658404
>The OG smells like Sprite or 7up.
There's something really wrong with your nose, or your Sprite and 7UP.

Looking for cheap dressed up event frag
>dylan blue
>cdnim
Which do you fraggots prefer? Both smell nice to me.

>>18658342
I think everyone would agree 10 bottles is a collection but I believe more than 3 is a collection. My logic is that the average person could easily end up with 3 fragrances through the years but after that it would require some intention. They could have a regular fragrance they wear all the time, their "elegant" going out fragrance, and their "expensive" special occasion fragrance. After that they wouldn't need more so it becomes a collection, it's not about utility anymore but about collecting.

t. 50+ bottles

>>18658449
Don’t you have warm ones? It’s so weird pairing a suit with a freshie, especially when its night. Unless youre in Australia right now.

Rate my fragmail lineup that will be arriving this week
>Secretions Magnifique
>Black Afgano
>Brutus
>Reflection Man
I might also try and order a sample of Roja Aoud as well, if I can sell a couple bottles I’m not going to use.

>>18658456
I only have eros edp kek

>>18658416
Are you from America?

>>18658416
Well it does smell like lemon/lime soda.

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>>18658458
>Amouage

>>18658459
Go with CDNIM
if they ask what is it just say it's Aventus
Dylan blue is just Sauvage so not worth wearing it in a special occasion

>>18658460
Luckily, I'm not.
>>18658462
I just grabbed my bottle of L'Eau d'Issey pour Homme that I've had for years, and I kind of get where you're coming from. It's a citrus-heavy scent, but it doesn't smell anything like overly sweet soda to me.

>>18658458
i like those
>roger bird
meh

>>18658453
jokes aside, this looks like a fair assessment

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What has been your most worn frag throughout this cold season?

>>18658477
Purple Oud, I wore it twice.

>>18658477
Probably Allure Homme Sport oddly enough. I finished my entire 10ml sample and bought a bottle. I also got a lot of use out of Antaeus, and New Look was my January SOTM.

>>18658458
>Secretions Magnifique
Memefrag
>Black Afgano
Memefrag
>Brutus
Actually really good and interesting imo
>Reflection Man
Poor attempt at not-Fahrenheit

>>18658494
You're thinking of Portrayal, not Reflection.

>>18658342

>>18658453 Is accurate, with emphasis on the 10+ as opposed to the more than three. I say that only because I agree if you have more than 3 it means you’ve probably put in effort to get more than what you’ve been gifted, but I don’t think it’s enough to qualify yet. Splitting hairs, but if you haven’t hit double digits yet you’re still working on a collection - you’re not there yet. My two cents, but overall >>18658453 is very well put.

>Also slightly over 50 bottles, haven’t counted recently.

>>18658466
>dylan blue is just sauvage
Really? I haven't smelled either. Which do you think is the better buy though between the two?

Anybody own any Zara frags? I have a bottle of Lisboa and apparently it's supposed to dupe Adg, but idk, it smells alright and fresh

Just got myself a bottle of DHP, this shit is pretty good.

>>18658549
It is, bought it myself not knowing it was a reformulation at the time and felt a bit jebaited. But in reality I keep reaching for it in the mornings, the original by all accounts was a once or twice a year wear frag
>>18658477
DHP25

Want to try out the Born in Roma line but there are too many flankers, can someone give me a quick rundown

Am I retarded or do all the sites like Frag arica/Basenotes users have an extreme bias towards colognes being meant for winter? It's all Fall/Winter with Winter being the main season that is listed. Do most of these people just take anything warm or heavy and immediately slot it into that category? I understand how some colognes absolutely give off those vibes but it seems more a preconceived affectation as to what to expect from something in Spring or Summer. Even things I'd say are "neutral" in terms of season get pushed right into Winter.

I'll say it until I am blue in the face: I don't want to smell like a fucking orange all the time.

>>18658192
>How do they make these
It's a composite. The bottle is a 3D scan, or light box image. The wood is real but then they textured on the burning bits. The lime is wax. The flowers are real. Then they composite all the images together with the model, and add a bunch of bokeh and the appropriate light source. A lot of car commercials you see where you're just looking at the car are 3D these days. Since you can perfect scans, and control the conditions and lighting exactly the way you want, there is always a 3D element. 3D scanning the bottle would be super easy. Hell, you can do it. Go on Temu and buy a hand scanner. They're expensive but not "expensive". A lot of people do this with 3D printing. They scan the original item, and then print out copies. It's very handy.

>>18658602
The only one worth your attention imo is the original edt. It is salty fresh, youthful but fairly fem leaning unisex iris.
Every other flanker and actually the original Uomo too are gourmand so meh, makes the edt the most unique in the line
>>18658611
Yes, but to answer your other question it is winter in the Northern Hemisphere, probably skewing the perception maybe?

>>18658622
I like gourmands though so maybe some of the others will smell nice to me

>>18658485
Have you tried the OG Allure Homme and Edition Blanche? How do you rate them compared to Sport?

>>18658477
Ted lapidus pour homme

>>18658622
>probably skewing the perception maybe?
I'd agree to some extent if it wasn't for these reviews being aggregated. That's the sticking point for me. Could it be that people buy a cologne because a smaller base has already established it as a Fall/Winter frag and then it snowballs? I'd buy that, and I can ignore it but it's nonetheless frustrating when so many colognes are are pigeonholed into 3 months out of the year. There's a singular cologne in my (albeit small) collection that doesn't fall into Winter, and I imagine the ratio might be similar for most people in this thread (10-15% aren't classified as Winter colognes).

>>18658611
>>18658682
Are you asking why frags get rated as winter frags more than summer frags? or are you asking why winter frags are more popular than summer frags?

>>18658708
The former. Look through your own collection, and I am willing to bet you have an extremely uneven seasonal distribution if you go by any of the sites that curate them. A lot of people here even admit to having 7-10 colognes and wearing a different one every day, but we also know there's effectively 0 chance if you were to put those against how they are curated by people that they'd all (or even mostly) be seasonally appropriate.

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convince me not to buy this

why the FUCK is Dries Van Noten so goddam expensive

>>18658724
because the entirety of jeet diaspora is after that shit

>>18658724
What were you looking to get?

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Give me your best leather rose fragrances

>>18658449
>cheap dressed up event frag
Drugstore vetiver frag if you can find one

>>18658745
>Drugstore vetiver frag
Encre Noir?

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>>18658611
Probably. People tend to group fragrances seasonally more than day/night. A lot of winter fragrances might really just be evening fragrances.
>>18658646
I did try Allure Homme when I was at the airport a couple weeks ago. It’s really not even remotely similar to the Sport. It reminded me very loosely of a crisper and more luxurious Lalique Pour Homme. If you like that style of fragrance I definitely recommend it, but I personally found it to be very tame overall. Didn’t try the Edition Blanche.
>>18658719
If you’ve tried it and like it, its not a bad price for a discounter. I hope its at least 100ml though.
>>18658731
Antaeus is i guess somewhat of a leather rose. Margiela private line is coming out Anguish and Awe this year which is a leather rose, looks kind of cool. Some bottles have already leaked if you’re savvy enough to find them.

>>18658761
>I hope its at least 100ml though.
it's 200

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>>18658751
That would work I suppose. I was thinking something greener, but cheapies in that vein are harder to find
Pic related is a good example

>>18658751
>>18658766
But in response to your original question definitely cdnim
Sorry for the scatterbrained posts I'm posting from my phone at traffic lights

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I am a 4chan noob how do I reply to posts from the previous thread

>>18658719
Oh on the contraire, I insist you buy it. Been eyeing a tester of Light Blue Intense that was $60 but it sold out :(, now I gotta get the new Light Blue 2025 instead which is currently the same price. Both excellent frags, tested them twice and I already know it's the citric love of my life, intense projects better.

>>18658717
You mean the latter? You're right. First I'll say the best selling, mainstream frags are usually all-weather since they are for people with one or few fragrances. Weather specific fragrances are more common for hobbyists who have larger collections. Hobbyist on fragrance sites prefer complex, long lasting frags. Making unique and interesting fragrances that lasts for summer is much harder than making a long lasting complex winter fragrance. Fragrance hobbyists prioritize longevity and projection above all else, and that's less common in summer fragrances.
My collection is fall heavy, summer light, with spring and winter in the middle. There is a lot of overlap, some of my spring fragrances could be worn in summer and some of my fall fragrances could be used in winter.
How fragrances get rated on review sites they are either summer or winter on the extremes but some get both spring/fall for
moderate temperatures.

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SOTD Al-Haramain Amber Oud White Edition

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>>18658761
i already have antaeus

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let me guess....you need more?

>>18658797
These 72h deodorants are peak ogrecore
Just take a fucking shower you stinky obese feminist

>>18658797
>Gourmand armpits
I’d rather eat Indian street food

>>18658774
> I am a 4chan noob how do I reply to posts from the previous thread

Just type it out the same way other people are.

>>18658774
The message (in this case 18658774) persists, and so long as it's on the same board all you need to do is just put >> in front of the numbers. Or click the message you want to reply to by clicking on the post number itself, it will then open a reply window, and the post number with the >> already populated in it. Then just copy and paste that into a post on the new thread, and it'll link back to the old post, like this: >>18654722

>>18658782
I am going to say or make a retarded observation:
>Making unique and interesting fragrances that lasts for summer is much harder than making a long lasting complex winter fragrance.

Would it not merely be as "simple" as creating a high concentration parfum and then applying it to your clothes? Or is there an industry dislike of the "just put it on your clothes, bro" solution.

>>18658846
Fragrance lasts longer on clothes, there is no need to increase the concentration. Not to mention increasing the concentration can decrease projection.

Today i tried h24 and both flankers, so good, cant stop thinking about them, have to order them

>>18658801
>72h deodorants and ”full body” deodorants
These are everywhere now but I genuinely don’t understand the audience for them or their purpose
Is it literally for people who don’t shower?

>>18658801
>>18658854
i think its just marketing. people tend to associate "longevity" with better as seen in the fragrance community

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>>18658848
Sorry, to clarify why you'd potentially want to do this (again, I freely admit to being wrong) is that the fragrances that are supposed to be for warmer weather don't tend to last as long. So the naturally obvious thing to do would be to put it on your clothes, and while I am certain that would increase the life of it, it'd still be worse than a similar frag designed for colder weather. To give it an even longer lifespan, you'd increase the concentration. Then, ultimately, the projection being decreased might not be such a terrible thing as we all agree being an overperfumed obnoxious ass is the opposite of what we should want.

Frankly, I'd take longer lasting colognes that don't fill the room over ones that fill the room but only stick around for an hour or two. Then again, I am speaking from personal taste: I've always, always, always hated colognes I can smell from half a block away. It's one of the reasons why I had a personal bias against them for an incredibly long time. I've got a very sensitive nose, and when a lot of people are wearing dogshit (or Axe bodyspray, but I repeat myself) it will dim your view of wearing cologne. I've only recently got myself out of that mindset, so I freely admit to being over here (pic related) in the graph, but I only bring this up because I think it's interesting to me, a novice. I clearly don't know a lot, and I'll only figure them out by testing different fragrances over time or doing more reading, but there is this observation that doesn't seem to have an obvious answer.

I appreciate this conversation because it's been quite enlightening to see how a particular set of biases among hobbyists versus casual people splits the crowd. I think what I really should try and look into it are fragrances that are classified as being for warm weather that aren't fruit.

>>18658729
Havana Gold

>>18658326
What are your favorite spring/summer nighttime scents?

>>18658865
>we all agree being an overperfumed obnoxious ass is the opposite of what we should want
It's not binary, while it can be annoying to smell someone who put on too much cologne, some people just want to easily smell themselves through the day without having to sniff their arms or clothes. When you think of summer fragrances like the traditional cologne, they have lower concentration and that allows them to give you that nice projection. A high concentration summer cologne might be very muted and even on clothes that wouldn't be very popular with consumers.

I don't associate fruit as the main summer note, I think most people would say citrus. A popular fruit note for summer is fig. Looking through my collection I take back half the statement when I said it's hard to make unique and long lasting summer scents. Sure it's hard to make long lasting summer scents but there are so many unique and interesting summer notes. You can find notes like hay, tea, basil, bamboo, tagetes, etc.. There are also common winter notes that I would say are more interesting in summer fragrances like cedar, saffron, rose, and tobacco for example.

>>18658906
Molton Brown has a fresh tobacco fragrance that I tested it out and got intrigued. It's like a refreshing lemon tea mixed with unlit cigarettes.

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>>18658719
I hope this is a good blind buy :^)

>>18658906
Unfortunately, I don't think I'll ever be able to detach myself from "fill the room with my cologne" types from a boorish crowd. It's the more expensive version of spraying yourself down with Axe or the other 72 hour cans out there. Just gag inducing.

As for fruit, I should have been a bit more specific. A lot of the summer/warm colognes I've seen suggested here are citrus, and it's that association I despise. The best way I can describe it is "tourist". Someone in a past thread asked what to wear while in Florida, and it was just citrus. To me, that immediately made me pull away because that's very "tourist" in the sense that wearing an aloha shirt while in Hawaii. I live in Florida, and if I smelled someone wearing something citrus-y, I'd immediately assume they are from up north. That's also why I would never wear it. I also found that a lot of fruit (getting away from citrus for a minute) I smelled is too sweet or too mild. At least for me. I am probably off on this, but teas seem to be a decent pairing with warm weather since teas are very inoffensive, on the other hand the tea samples I smelled were far too neutral or mild; which I felt was a shame.

Your examples of saffron and rose are things I don't own (I haven't tried anything where the strongest note is rose), but are interesting ideas.

>>18658797
I stick with my Lattafa body sprays.

>>18658477
arabiyat prestige marwa. i'm not in love with it by any means but it's super inoffensive at work
>>18658602
>original edt
freshest
>intense
vanilla + lavender, very mild spices
>extradose
less vanilla, same lavender, most amount of spice in the line afaik. best cold weather choice
>coral fantasy
apple, lavender, mild tobacco, probably the sweetest in the line
>green stravaganza
bergamot, coffee bean
>yellow dream
apparently this is similar to original stronger with you. haven't tried

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I hope my hair grow slowly because I don't want to go to the barbershop and smell the Indian barber's body odour.

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>>18658494
Fuck you I like Black Afgano.

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>>18658969
I hate Amouage because their frags contain dangerous chemicals that fuck up your hormones. Same with Tom Ford.

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>>18658970
A company willing to disclose they use benzyl salicylate makes them more honest than less as compared to any of the others in that Anon's list (except Etat who also disclose it). If you're not seeing a breakdown of their ingredients, they're probably using it.

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>wearing this on a very hot summer day
Perfection. Any other frag+situation combo that fits so well?

>>18658986
D&G Light Blue

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Montale Sandflowers literally gave me nose-gasm. It's a fresher, more calone-heavier take on Acqua di Sale. While AdS is way too sticky and musty, Sandflowers smells like fresh melon, a little bit like sun screen and watery.
My Sotd.

>hey guys, it smells like incense here... why?
>it's me
>really?
>yeah, it's my perfume
SOTD: Casbah

Am I an autist for not liking 80-90% of the fragrances I've tried? Mostly designer too

>>18658853
this
best pillar frag of the last 10 years at least

>>18658986
yes, i will bathe in Hermes colognes when it finally gets warmer

>>18659007
based, let's hope they bring it back soon

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>>18659018
Something is wrong with your nose.

>>18659018
probably skill issue (unironically)

>>18659007
>>18659019
What does it smell like?

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>>18659024
probably smells like incense

>>18659022
I mostly mean in a subjective sense. I can respect good composition in a fragrance but I really have no interest in buying full bottles of almost anything. Maybe 5% of fragrances I sample become a full bottle purchase.

If blue frags are generally understood to be stuff like bdc, sauvage, dylan blue, blue talisman, ambroxan-heavy woody-fruity whatever
And green frags are things like paradise garden, philosykos, and whatnot
What would red frags be? Don't say BR540

>>18659027
oic, it's okay
in a sense you are lucky as you don't have to spend a lot to get all the frags you really like

Is there a fragrance that will make me smell like popcorn? I want to get milked for real.m

>>18659032
Lyric Man?

>>18659039
>popcorn
ELDO La Fin du Monde is pretty close desu

>>18659042
Can I ask how you pulled that off the dome? Even being aware there is a cologne made by a not obscure brand that's designed to smell like popcorn is some shit. Why would they even make this.

>>18659045
>how?
i have a bottle on my shelf
>why?
why do anything? it's fun and the brand is known for creating (good) quirky stuff

>>18658477
Probably TdH, but I don't have any frag that's really good for the cold weather so I've been wearing lots of samples of different things.
The ones that I'm enjoying the most are Rifaaqat and Spicy Amber.

>>18659049
Why would you want to smell like you work at an AMC?

>>18659053
why not?

>>18659054
Isn't the answer self-evident? You smell like you work at an AMC.

>>18659055
no, it isn't
no, i don't
smell it before you mald about it online, ty

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>citrus

>>18658719
>>18658941
You got a good frag for a good price. When it arrives check if it's real and then enjoy it.
>>18658724
It strikes the right balance between as high as people are willing to pay for it and high enough that it feels like luxury goods.
>>18658728
You said something along these lines in a previous thread and you stopped replying when asked for more info.
You're making it up.

>>18659032
Spiced orientals. Occasionally with cherry or raspberry like joop, but covers anything like old spice or viking. Opium for the ladies sits in this category.

>>18659058
Best citrus: bergamot
Worst citrus: grapefruit

>>18658958
You spend too much mental energy on what others are doing and wearing. Every second you spend letting someone occupy your mind is time you lose focusing on yourself and your betterment. Citrus is in almost every fragrance, even the heaviest winter fragrances sometimes have them. It's usually a top note that dissipates quickly, the longer lasting citrus are usually synthetic modern compositions with other notes to bolster them. You're probably just have a distaste for modern fresh fragrances, not citrus itself. You should stop being so rigid and close minded. The only thing that matters in fragrance is if you like the scent or not. All our preconceived notions and personal rules do nothing but hold us back, believe me, we've all been there. The fragrances I enjoy today were not the fragrances I thought I would enjoy when I started, and some of the ones I don't enjoy are what I was exactly what I was looking for.

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>>18658966
>Indian barber
Go to a real barbershop.

Someone I didn't like gifted me Burberry Weekend 20 years ago so basically ever since then I have an aversion to citrus, I refuse to acknowledge the fact that it exists in Fahrenheit

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>>18659018
I like fewer than 1% of fragrances.

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Kerosene Copper Skies

Warm spicy and metallic. Mostly intense cloves laid over amber, with a sweet woody background of honey and cedar. Very smooth

>>18659122
I would probably own multiple Kerosene full bottles if that motherfucker would just sell a discovery set(s) from his own website, but I refuse to buy 1 ml blotters from Luckyscent, so he gets no business from me.

>I’m not bitter at all

>I’m very bitter

>>18659141
I don't understand so many peoples' aversion to the lucky scent dabbers. I just turn the bottle upside down and drag it across the top of my hand, then rub my fists together.
This one actually came in a 1mL spray sample anyway.

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I got a bottle of Dior Cuir Cannage, I really like it but it's hard to recommend because it's not mass appealing, it's dated, and it's very "grandma's cosmetics". It starts very briefly with a bit of citrus and freshness, it's so brief that this is the first time I notice it and it's my third time wearing it. After that is a strong powdery iris with rose and jasmine, it would be impossible for me not to associate this with grandma's skin lotion. This is a leather frag but my nose is really weird with leather. I can get it in Fahrenheit and I find Ted Lapidus PH to be a hyper realistic leather but a lot of times it's just in the background, adding to the fragrance but not very noticeable. Even in fragrances that are really leather heavy, it can be less prominent to my nose. For me Cuir Cannage is mainly a powdery floral fragrance because the florals are way more prominent than the leather. The jasmine/rose combo made me recall Tauer's Le Maroc pour Elle but Cuir Cannage is much lighter and airy with the powderiness and a lower dose of jasmine and rose. Cuir Cannage has a lot of other facets as it develops. It has some animalics but not stinky or indolic, more like soft and warm that combine with the leather. You get a bit of smokiness, there is also some mild sweet florals that come and go, I also get a lot of birch after it settles down. I even get some booziness and herbal notes. The fragrance is intended to have both masculine and feminine aspects but it's not a sexy young couple, it's grandma and grandpa bickering on their way to church. The floral powderiness is loud and strong at first but the smoky soft birch wins in the end. I like it because it's so interesting with so many facets but for a lot of people it will smell dated. It lasts a respectable amount and the projection is very strong, almost shocking at first, for up to an hour, but you can still smell it for hours after it settles.

>>18659144
Consistency of application. When I am testing fragrances I want (roughly) the same amount each time I apply it so I can compare accordingly. That’s much, much more difficult to do with a dabber. It’s also just fucking chintzy on LuckyScents part considering they’re probably the largest decant website out there.

>>18659159
Club de Nuit Intense Man if you want to smell black, Terre d'Hermes if you want to smell Indian. White people don't wear fragrance.

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Anyone tried this yet?

>>18657888
>not owning all 3 and using them in different situations
baka my head, checked though

>>18658666
based, checked satan

>>18659171
I mean I guess. I don't notice a whole lot of variation in my own applications personally. I apply it in the same place, in the same way, every time. The only problem I've had is when I get all butterfingers and accidentally spill the whole thing on my hand and/or desktop mat.

Really if I get something from Luckyscent anyway it's something I only want to try once or twice at most anyway just to satiate the curiosity. So I'm not too worried if one wear is a little different from the next, that's part of the fun for me.

>>18659156
>I really like it but it's hard to recommend because it's not mass appealing,
where do you think you are?
>and I find Ted Lapidus PH to be a hyper realistic leather
what???

thanks for the review

>>18659189
Don't confuse Ted Lapidus pour Homme (1978) with Lapidus pour Homme (1987).

>>18659007
Weird that it's been sold out in the EU for like a year while it's in stock in the US.

Thoughts on snowy owl by zoologist

>>18659215
Nta but I went through a few bottles of Ted by Ted Lapidus about 20 years ago. What do you think of it?

>>18659289
it's an interesting frag worth sampling imho
smells like + the bird enclosure in a zoo

>>18659289
Wasn’t a fan personally, to me it came off as stale air and artificial grass, still worth sampling tho. Even bad frags are worth testing with your own nose.

>>18659321
You mean Ted Lapidus pour Homme (1999)? I'm not familiar with it, I'm only familiar with the 1978 leather one.

>>18659289
My favourite from the brand. Takes a very summery blend of mint and coconut and makes it feel like that crisp solar fresh air on a very cold and snowy but sunny day. It ends up being a very pleasing and fresh wintery scent that that’s also light enough for summer.

>>18659215
Ah i got trips earlier in thread and i meant Lapidus pour homme.

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>SOTD: Bvlgari Tygar

This one is insane, lasts 9+ hours without raping your nose and filling the entire room. My white roommate recommended it to me, it was his gym fragrance. I almost grew a pussy when I smelled it on him.

>>18659394
good way to not sell me on it

>>18659394
i dont understand the hype behind this one. it reminds me of tag body spray from the early 2000s

Anyone had a chance to smell the new Valentino Purple Melancholia?

>>18659394
Putting aside the r/lgbt/ post, what Bvlgari frag is actually decent?

I sampled Wood Essence once and was so horrified by the smell I've never tried any others.

>>18659420
NTGA - Their aquatics, the ones in the circle/oval shaped flacons are all pretty decent. The discontinued Bvlgari Black was interesting. The pour Homme EdP is actually a quite fantastic tea fragrance.

>>18659420
their pour homme is good

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What's the best zoologist in your opinion?
I just want to have one of them. I'm currently thinking about a rodent one, because i like rodents.
Chipmunks and harvest mouse have really interesting notes like hazelnut or beer.

>>18659456
I bet you're a Harry Potter afficionado.

>>18659411
>Purple Melancholia?
i can't believe they named it like that like nigga wtf

Just going to vent here about my recent experience.

Had a 2ml sample of DIA MAN that I really enjoyed so I decided to cop a full bottle. Read reviews how most Amouage's have been reformulated so I figured I would look for an "older" bottle, not exactly vintage, but just different from the newer packaging. I managed to find a UK made version on Facebook with the old box and decide to grab it (2018 bottle).

So I open it up and spray it and it smells kind of flat. The notes don't pop like the sample I had, everything is kind of melded together however in the sample, the vetiver was deeper and the peony and plum would pop, it was amazing.

I then contact the people I got the sample off and turns out its a 2022 batch.

So the older bottle I copped smells worse to the newer one. How the fuck is anyone supposed to figure out what bottle is good or not if there is stark differences between them all?

There are made in Oman versions and made in UK versions. Some people say the UK versions are stronger than Oman, this shit is all over the place. Am i supposed to gamble with every fucking bottle i purchase? Its fucking expensive.

I am fuming and this is such fucking bullshit, fuck Amouage.

>>18659456
My favorite is Penguin, a clean mossy leather scent, quite enjoyable. T-Rex is the most bombastic loud one they have and actually settles into a vanilla leather is the base, not unwearable like some people say. Harvest Mouse is a pleasant sweet hay scent. Rabbit is a sweet gourmand. Macaque Fuji Apple is decent, Orchid Mantis is an enjoyable floral aquatic, Koala is a nice minty, menthol-y tea scent, Musk Deer is a warm creamy musk.

They’ve got a lot of good scents, it’s a matter of whether you think they’re worth the price.

>>18659492
>Am i supposed to gamble with every fucking bottle i purchase?
Essentially yes.
>It’s fucking expensive.
Welcome to frags. If buying a bottle of smelly water is a concerningly large purchase for you, perhaps you shouldn’t be buying it?

Also, why did you post with a picture of The Gay Dragon?

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>>18659492
>have two Amouage frags
>new ones
>they smelled exactly like the samples
>couldn't be happier

Sounds like you got fucked somehow, Anon. Where did you buy the bottle from? A lot of places will let you return them. Even a lot of dudes on eBay will let you return them (but they might not refund the whole purchase).

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>>18659511
I don't do bottle purchases that often, its only when i'm 100% certain I will enjoy the scent and not get bored of it. Gay dragon is for attention.

>>18659513
I don't think so, the bottle is legit and juice is definitely DIA Man. Glad you got what you paid asked/paid for.

I got the Klone Baccarat knock off and I like it. Is it worth getting the real thing?

>>18659517
Batch to batch variation, maceration, possible IFRA laws between manufacturer dates, and as minuscule as it may be, minute things like - air quality on the day of testing, skin chemistry, and even more long term olfactory fatigue.

They can all affect the perception of a scent, it’s why this is all so ephemeral and subjective.

>Gay dragon is for attention.
Fair enough.

I haven’t seen him post in a while, but to the Anon who always states that Tom Slop is incomplete perfumery, what is the complete (non-Arab Slop) version of Ombré Leather?

What is the absolute highest quality shaving foam barbershop fougere? I have Platinum Egoiste and I love it but I want something higher-end.

>>18659526
>I want something higher-end
is such a thing even possible?

>>18659525
the private blend collection is goated, though

>>18659517
I feel like you dodged a large part there by not saying where you got the bottle and why you can't return it.

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Is Parfums de Marley overpriced? Thinking of getting Pegasus.

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>>18659541
I got it off Facebook, it had had the plastic still on with the sticker, it is 100% genuine. The seller probably wouldn't take it back since I opened it. The bottle i have is far more peony heavy, while the sample is more plum and vetiver, it also projects more than the sample. Maybe maceration will change it for the better but i'm not expecting it too. I've only had some air in it for two weeks.

Also blind bought pic related, will be back with a review.

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2026 is dope so far
>planning to impregnate my white GF
>alt right movement, new right wing parties crumbles
>right influencer get exposed left & right
>Epstein files released, confirmed 9/11 fraud
>fucking El Mencho is dead
Ah i love my life, God is great!
Sotd Montale Sandflowers

>>18659560
This is why I fuck men.

What are the most mass pleasing compliment getting panty droppers from PdM? Apparently Althair is good?

>>18659394
>grapefruit
Yikes
>>18659557
>bergamot
Yes please

>>18659570
I heard PdM frags are slops. I'm not sure about this.

>>18659569
Just ignore him and his imaginary girlfriend.

>>18659557
That doesn't look like a unisex fragrance.

>>18658326
https://basenotes.com/articles/the-top-ten-niche-fragrances-every-beginner-should-sample.3243/

This link needs to replace the one in the OP. Basenotes changed how they organize their URLs. The link above is the correct, working link now.

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Fragrance with this vibes?

>>18659582
Baccarat Rouge our similar shit like that

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This is the only fragrance store in my area that isn't Sephora or Dillards. I don't know nearly enough to know if these brands are even worth going to sample or not. Anything stand out?

>>18659584
Not that anon but why BR540?

>>18659591
I've seen in the past of these threads BR 540 was also suggested for bar/gambling/vegas vibes along with Jazz Club

IDK why, probably because of the baccarat name lol

>>18659526
I personally do not equate price to value, but if you’re just looking for the most expensive then I believe that would be Rive Gauche pour Homme.

Azzaro pour Homme is also a classic despite being cheap. You could get a vintage bottle of PRPH but the modern version isn’t wildly dissimilar either.

>>18659544
Without a doubt, wildly overpriced.

>>18659557
I’m not saying your bottle is fake or the Facebook person is untrustworthy, but remember, if they can fake a box and bottle, faking the plastic wrap is even easier.

>>18659570
This isn’t TikTok, this isn’t a YouTube Top 10 list, fuck off.

>>18659588
Day Three is the only interesting niche one I recognize and you can just as easily get their $40 discovery set and test their whole line at your leisure.

Doesn’t mean the others are bad, just not ones I follow / sample. There’s some Anon that pops his head in once a year and comments about Vilhelm, but I also ways associated the brand with the Vilhelm Scream and so I can’t take it seriously.

>>18659608
>Vilhelm Scream
Kek, Wilhelm Scream, literally can’t dissociate the two.

>>18659107
Thanks for the tip.

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>>18659526
Gravitas from that english boomer Mr. Smelly, most high end fougere, shaving cream i smelled so far.

>>18659526
Bon Monsieur is an expensive niche take
There is also Invasion Barbare

>>18659544
They are overpriced because they smell too much like mainstream designer perfumes

>>18659456
I mentioned snowy owl being my favourite earlier but Civet, Bee, and Squid are also all very good. Squid is probably the best in terms of presentation and composition.
>>18659519
Barely. Baccarat uses a base of notoriously inexpensive materials in very high amounts. The real deal will be smoother up close and have a bit more nuance as you get more familiar with that style of fragrance, but its one of those rare occasions where the original is so easy to make and copy that the dupe is really not that egregiously bad in comparison. If you like that, give Oud for Glory a try as well. Its the same base but with a darker twist.
>>18659544
Yes, PDM is influencer slop.
>>18659570
No perfume will deliver what you’re looking for. The best panty dropper is being tall, white, charismatic, and not bald.

>>18659544
yes, its the very definition of overpriced slop

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Anyone tried the new Serge Lutens?

>most popular girl in the word at the moment
>what perfume do you use?
>the... Gucci jasmine tea one!
brb going to buy a liter of Flora Gorgeous Jasmine and become a champion at my own pace.

>>18659544
dramatically

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>my fragrancenet order with express shipping from sunday still hasnt shipped

>>18659519
Never tried the Klone copy, but I've tried many copies and I've found one by Fragrance World that I couldn't tell apart from the original.
The main thing about this frag imo is how airy and ethereal and odd it smells without becoming unpleasantly synthetic (like Ganymede for example), but the original doesn't have anything about it that smells better, higher end or higher quality than many clones.
>>18659592
Baccarat is the name of a company that produces fine crystal, it has nothing to do with the card game.
I also don't think it's a good bar/gambling frag unless you're a hot girl who's there to find someone to bring home.
>>18659544
Yes, though not as much as the contrarians in this thread would have you believe.
Because of their popularity you can find many copies/reps/dupes, and many of them are as high quality as the originals are.

>>18659744
>you can find many copies/reps/dupes
thats because the pdm fragrances themselves are already dupes which is why people criticize even a 200 dollar bottle off discounters

>>18659741
They always take a few days to ship, IME. I don't think faster shipping is worth paying for since it arrives fairly quickly once it's finally out.

>>18659032
Those are not green frags, green frags are like Polo Green, Yatagan, Quorum, etc.

>>18659683
No, they don't ship to the US.

>>18658390
Safe, boring. You will not love it and you will not hate it. Safe blind buy if you need something inoffensive to douse yourself with.

>>18658342
Minimum of 3 but buying with intention is the difference between a collection and an accumulation or a hoard. If everything you have was gifted its hardly a collection.

My 30-40 bottles is a combo kek

>>18659779
That's how I've felt about basically all IM flankers except Bleue and Intense.

I regret selling my bottle of Encre Noire. I’m thinking of maybe ordering some more goated cheapies once I finish acquiring a few more high end decants. What are some lesser known cheapies that are more on the modern side? I have tried almost all of the classics (polo green, lalique ph, lapidus, azzaro, versace, aramis, flannel, drakkar, aromatics elixir, youthdew etc). Looking for stuff thats a bit more light and understated and not your typical drugstore 80s powerhouse. I also don’t mind picking up more feminine or unisex leaning scents.

>>18659456
Snowy Owl, Cow, T-Rex, Bat (both versions)
some others are also good but i like these the most

>>18659517
>PdE Vetiver
based

>>18659526
>What is the absolute highest quality shaving foam barbershop fougere?
Invasion Barbare
Sartorial
Bon Monsieur

>>18659544
yes, it's also slop

>>18659570
no, see above

>>18659581
thanks, will try to keep it in mind for the next bake

>>18659582
basic bitch designer frag x2

>>18659683
It's not really Lutens anymore because Serge Lutens and Christopher Sheldrake aren't involved with the brand anymore.

What free samples should I get from Hiram Green when I'm ordering Ultra, I'm guessing Hyde is a must for a casual Fahrenheit enjoyer?
Also what does narcissis even smell like?

>>18659854
>Christopher Sheldrake
He still makes perfumes for the house, though, his most recent one being from 2024.

>>18659858
I can't help you with your questions but I ask dearly that you review the fragrances when you recieve them

for me it's city of stars
haven't bothered to even check other fragrances since getting this
t. ultra straight male

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Is this worth 100 something?The EDP is still my first serious frag and I fell in love with it

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>>18659869
I will be shit at comparing them but I'm hoping from Brad Pitt in Snatch, I'll probably get picrel

>>18659858
Hyde is nothing like big F to me, it's a smoky birch bomb that is more bonfire than petrol. One of the strongest things I've ever smelled on par with Rien II.

>>18659879
It rarely ever gets discounted much more than 20% incase you are waiting for a deal

>>18659882
But is it goooood?

>>18659771
it was only 3 dollars more for the express shipping so i figured why not? if its not shipped by tomorrow ill probably call them while im working or something and complain

>>18659863
Retired in 2025.

>>18659215
I unfortunately frequently do, I should learn the difference finally

>>18659376
That's the correct year but it was just called Ted

>>18659520
Kill yourself Derek

>fragrance from the 80s
>:|
>fragrance from the 80s duped by a niche house in 2026
>:O

>>18659724
The figure skater girl, or someone else?

>>18659741
The express portion only refers to the shipping company (UPS, DHL, etc) FragranceNet is still gonna be slow AF.

>>18659858
My two cents would be Slow Dive and Hyde, look at what he even offers to pick your third but those two are what I like.

Also, as >>18659881 stated, Hyde is way, way more birch tar than anything Fahrenheit. Hyde is actually (somewhat) similar to Tonnerre just because they’re smoky birch bombs.

>>18659932
The number of times I post and get called The Gay Dragon by personal name is rather shocking. It’s probably always you, and you probably mean it as an insult but I think it’s kind of cool.

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>>18660012
>mfw slowdive is marketed as Indian summer
The samples I did go with were Hyde just because it feels mandatory and Arbloe because it's the one I probably should have bought instead of Ultra
>>18659989
>also mfw everything with narcissis absolute is discontinued or only from nieche houses now

>FN's good boy point discounts are insanely point intensive with very little return
Why would I spend 5,000 points for a $25 discount when I can instead just keep my free returns and free 1-2 day shipping? Also, if their discounts weren't so good I'd probably be far less enthused about using them due to all the "APPLY FOR THIS CREDIT CARD? DO YOU WANT A DISCOUNT FOR THIS SERVICE?" shit they slam on every page.

>>18660027
I used to use FragranceBuy a lot more because the prices were relatively same if not better, stock was still, and their reward program was miles better. Unfortunately in the past year or two basically all three of those have dropped off. Prices are still okay-ish, but not nearly as consistently lower, stock is all shit and waaaay too heavy on Arab clones, and the reward program is super meh.

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this shit lasts forever.

>>18659639
>>18659744
Thanks for the info. Is the Oud for Glory really $25? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?

>>18659858
Narcissus is in yellow floral category. Don’t be mistaken by its white appearance. It smells a lot like ylang-ylang, but with fruitier undertones and is slightly metallic. H24 EDT has it. Think summery, dewy, less animalic than both jasmine and ylang

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>SOTD: Hermes Eau d'Hermes
this is fucking great
citrus+aromatic+leather, has traces of Eau Sauvage+NYI+Pour Monsieur, etc., good for all seasons and all occasions, performance is good, can be got for pebbles at (Euro) discounters

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SOTD Armani Code
You don't need more

>>18660108
It's a shame they can't build cool cars anymore.

>>18659989
Examples?

>>18659989
You not talking about Al-Rehab right?

>>18660193
Smells cold and emotionless, like my dad

>>18660191
Equipage
Bel Ami / Vetiver
Eau d'Orange Verte

There are many great classic Hermes fragrances that get overlooked. 100ml bottles can be had for 60€ or less at Euro discounters.

Looking for something masculine with realistic ginger + citrus. I like the top end of YSL L'Homme but the strong tonka bean makes it a pass for me (doesn't work with my skin oils)

>>18660203
YSL Y EDP

>>18660194
They still can't compete with Chinese cars

>>18660116
Yep, that sounds right. It’s a clone of Initio Oud for Greatness.

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Okay fellas I just blind bought YSL Libre and Gucci Guilty Black. I tested Tom Ford Bitter Peach and it was too strong for me. It may caused nausea.

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>>18660251
Fuck Tom Ford and his frags

What are some must buy samplers/discovery sets?

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What does he wear, /frag/?

>>18660256
etat libre d'orange

>>18660256
Parfum d'Empire, ELDO, Tauer (extra points for the great metal box and atomizer), Nicolai (even if the selection is just okay), Essential Parfums

>>18660257
Brut aftershave splash layered with Joop Homme

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>SOTD picrel
Testing it in the shop to see what narcissis smells like and asked the based lady to spray it on my wrist instead of the card and she baptized me with half the bottle

Why don't kouros antaeus fans shill this more it is very good, this is better than 90% male marketed designer greens.

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I'm such a faggot for this shit, ong bruh.

>>18660276
a rare faggot W
PdE is one of the best frag houses around

>>18660278
I keep wanting to buy MM but PdE keep turning me around to something they have instead.

>>18660275
Is this the 2023 version? The performance only last for 1-2 hours.

>>18660260
>>18660261
Thx bruvs

>>18660276
Damn, I hate zoomer slangs. Zoomers are destroying the Internet.

>>18660280
>MM
wut

>>18660285
Masque Milano.

>>18660281
That explains why that jew succubus doused me then

>>18660290
>jew succubus
gimme

>>18660257
Montale Sandflowers

>>18660302
You can't upload pictures, coomer mutt?

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I bought Ultra Male because I tried it at the mall and really enjoyed it, the scent really grew on me otherwise I wouldn't have even considered a JPG. Now, I see everybody that talks about it mentioning "great clubbing frag" and whatnot, but I don't go to clubs so I have no idea what that means. Do you avoid frags because of their association with certain lifestyles? Can you really wear this stuff and not be associated with that vibe? I don't care if it's an "old men" frag or a "clubber", I just want to smell nice. I bought this thing for autumn, can't even really wear this rn because it's summer in the tropics, even thought about returning it to get Light Blue Intense instead but I got it on a great sale....

>>18660305
just wear whatever you like
it's really that simple

>>18660303
Calm down Timmy

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100ml bottle of vetiver extreme came in yesterday. pretty nice. very close to normal vetiver, but feels like it leans more on nutmeg/pepper spices. I saw some people mention it being sweeter from the tonka, but I didnt really get that at all. thats just from testing on my hand, so might change once I do a proper wearing.

>>18660256
+1 on ELDO, fair price and large/diverse selection. if you're interested in rogue, theyre discovery was also a fair price.

>>18660002
The figure skater, the one and only Alyssa Liu.
>>18660275
>extremely soapy green flowery chypree
What does N.19 have to do with Kouros and Antaeus?
>>18660280
Does PdE have anything to sub for Russian Tea or, more importantly, L'attesa?

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>oakmoss

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>>18658970
>>18658982
h-h-how does it fuck up your hormones?

>>18660305
I'm a waggie, it doesn't matter if it's a "date night" or "gym" frag they are all become "office" scents.

>>18660346
If you're not man enough it turns you gay. It's only on issue for low testosterone men.

>>18660347
This, but I don't dare wear Tuscan Leather at work because I know someone is gonna complain

>>18660350
For strong stuff you I do maybe 2 sprays or just 1. You can also spray early so it dies down a bit. I only spray enough so I can smell it, most people don't even know I'm wearing fragrance.

>>18660350
Lmao faggot im waging in full ombre nomad right now. Grow a pair and fuck stacy at the office while smelling like leather and cocaine

>>18660195
mind games gambit is just drakkar noir and everyone acts like its some innovative masterpiece but yet they conveniently never mention it smells like drakkar noir

>>18660365
>t. remote worker

>>18660368
working from home and not smelling like Secretions Magnifiques (10 sprays at least) is beta coded

>>18660278
>PdE is one of the best frag houses around
Got the large discovery set for Christmas, none really stood out.

>>18660383
that sucks, i like most of their frags a lot
what are your favorites in general?

>>18660305
>Do you avoid frags because of their association with certain lifestyles?
no, I'm not an oversocialized normalfaggot

>>18660305
>certain lifestyles
Not lifestyles but certain marketing has an adverse and usually contradictory effect on me.

I don't like jpg, have never and will never test it thoughallbeit I am a fan of everything I've smelled from MFK, so sense would say I would like Le Male etc but fuck that gay shit.

Never smelled antaeus because I have an association with chanel as an overpriced and common, poor people luxury brand but it probably would fit the >>18659880 Brad Pitt in Snatch category perfectly that im after.
I know exactly what an indian summer is but Slowdive now has that poo in the loo saar rep in my brain that I feel I would have to justify wearing it to myself as a 5'11.75'' European male

>>18660438
>overpriced and common, poor people luxury brand
And to add to that I arbitrarily judge anyone with a LV frag in there collection, one of the imagination style bottle one's, as a probable coke dealer and certified special needs

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>>18658326
bros are there any hidden gem cheap colognes or deodorant sprays you would find somewhere at like target

>>18660440
none in that pic

>>18660440
Try TK Maxx (TJ? Maxx)
Their stock is inconsistent but the discounts are usually better than anywhere else

>>18660443
yea i dont mean specifically in this pic

>>18660341
Russian Tea is the one thing I'd get from them if you're looking for a leather. It's great. I have it. It's the only Masque Milano I own, but that's unironically because I bought it before I fell down into a PdE K-hole.

>>18660440
I can’t find my photo of it, but I found a dupe of Encre Noire called something like Bois Noir at TJMaxx that was better than the original.

>>18660346
There is no evidence that it will do anything to you, you'd need a lot of exposure from Benzyl Salicylate in high quantities for it to matter. The other thing is that literally every single perfume house uses it. It can be sourced naturally, so even guys like Hiram Green can say their ingredients are all natural. It's not a synthetic, but it can mess with your hormones. Regulary drinking from heated containers with PVA or whatever is far, far worse.

>>18660440
cremo spice and black vanilla (cheaper online anyway)

>>18660446
you can find things at the mall or in drug stores but they're usually cheaper on the internet anyway
in parts of europe you can find old, random, grandpa colognes sometimes which you can't get anywhere else and those are pretty cool

What are some quality oud fragrances that arent obvious accordslop, but also arent areej/ensar level expensive? Something around Amouage/Roja price point.

>>18660468
Prin Saringkarn

>in fragrance buyselltrade group
>retards posting bundled listings of the most random high end niche 3-5 full bottles
>refuse to split bundles
>asking $700-$1000
>never moves
>see this constantly
What causes this kind of thinking?

>>18660515
mental retardation

>>18660515
Hey, I macerated that 49ml of Afrika Olifant myself!

>>18660515
If it's a good deal why not buy it and split it yourself for a profit, they just don't want to deal with the hassle.

>>18660461
i was gonna mention that one too

best green frag? dont say git or polo green

>>18660596
Mousse Illuminee

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Almost done with my collection. Just a couple more coming in the mail and I will have to thank you all and hope we can do this again in 20 years.

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>>18660609
Damn, girl, you're pretty. Shame it's dark now. I'd have taken a pic outside like that other Anon if there were any light.

>>18660596
Paco Rabbane pour homme is a must try if you like polo green, camphours lavender bomb with oakmoss, not really at all piney though

>>18660609
Quite a selection, anon. Once I get Light Blue, I will declare my collection complete.

>>18660617
apparently it just smells like bogart, which is fine but will give it a try someday

>>18660440
Nothing on that display (that wasn’t stolen, broken, or empty) smelled like anything other than alcohol. Arabian dupes or Burlington if you’re on a budget. Aeropostale and Banana Republic have decent frags in the $13-25 price range.

Are you guys familiar with those Amazon return stores? Basically, they are stores where they sell junk people return at a fixed rate that lowers with each day. Some of them are scummier than others and don't respect the purpose of the store (their owners will have their employees pick out the good shit, and then give that to them, and then they'll sell a trickle of high value items at near MSRP).

I am bringing this up because I went to one about a month ago and they had nearly 100 bottles of Creed Aventus all stacked together for $12 bucks each. I was very tempted to buy some, but I also figured that there was a very specific reason why such a large quantity had been returned (they were counterfeits sold through a 3rd party and returned to Amazon). I sort of regret not buying at least a few, but then again, who knows what was in those bottles. They also had about just as many 1 Million Paco Rabanne bottles for the same price stacked next to them. It's too late to get them now (since it was a month ago), but assuming it was some sort of scam (hence the huge quantity of returns) what do you think was going on there?

Anyone tried this frag? Just purchased it. Pretty excited. Mugler fragrances are sweet, edgy not-quite niche, not-quite designer. Teetering unique and mass appealing. Their funnest frags with the best packaging always get discontinued. Perfume is a luxury and it deserves to be a fun experience every time you put it on. I love their bottles so much.

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>>18660711
Dropped pic.

>>18660664
Thank you. Just a few more big ticket items coming in the mail and then I'll probably just grab a few cheap frags to serve as daily drivers. Encre Noire, some clones, that kind of stuff.

>>18660712
While cool, isn't that explicitly designed as a woman's frag?

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>no fragrance that smells like pizza

>>18660596
the best green frag is bleue

>>18660709
Basically exactly what you described. Whether it’s a third party seller or some other fake business posing as a reputable retailer, they look legit to the untrained eye, that’s boosted by the fact they have large amounts of stock, shit gets sold, people realize it’s fake and return it / complain about the seller, Amazon pulls stock.

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>>18660712
My thoughts exactly, and yes, it is. >>18660734