>>77098980
>/troon/ - running general

Looking at run commuting when the weather breaks. It'd be five miles each way. I've been running about 6 months, was around 30 miles a week but the winter has really set in for about a month. I'm down to like ~10 miles a week. How hard do I have to build back up? Is this a stupid idea this early in running? I went for a run today and am noticeably worse than a few weeks ago. Is it over?

>>77098998
depends how many days innit

50 miles a week?

not good idea

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>>77099178
Post more.

>>77098998
It's a great idea. Just start doing it once or twice per week and take it from there. If you have the option to cycle on the other days I'd do that. I got so fit from doing easy short cycles to work every day. You don't think it's much but it's building a massive base fitness when you are doing it for months and months.

>>77099369
>groin injury cost me a month of running
>put 20 pounds on
>slower and less fit than six months ago despite running 20-30 miles a week
>rained every day for two months
>been running for over a year and actually slower than when I started
>hate going outside because it's so grey and miserable
>never lose any weight
how do I start enjoying running again?

>>77099419
Lose the weight. You're probably still fit enough. You don't lose fitness that quickly but obviously being overweight makes running a helluva lot harder

>>77099438
I've lost most of the weight, but pace still way down. My garmin doesn't give me the fast runs anymore (threshold, tempo etc. just shitty base runs), and running fast hurts my groin anyway.

My legs feel stiffer and heavier to lift. Maybe age is catching up with me, I'm in my 40s now.

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Would it be possible to finish a 6 hour kind of event which is 3 months from now if I currently run 5 k 3 times a week? How should I prepare? Any experiences? My longest run is a half marathon from a few years ago.

walked fast a bunch yesterday, some of it with groceries. was hitting zone 2 most of that time
ankle almost didnt hurt
gonna attempt squatting 40-60 kg next lifting session

>>77099178
her face is clearly filled with makeup
you're not falling for this right?

>>77098980
Who deleted the op image? It was funny.

sunday i should be healed...

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mona intervals but I did an extra 30 by mistake and that fucked me up for the 15s

Where do you guys run? Do you have comfy injury proof dirt paths? There's only asphalt where I live

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Forerunner 55 or 165?

>>77099986
I run on concrete these days. Just cant max out miles every day and need some cushion in your shoes

>>77100016
the cushion and nice foam makes such a difference. wish these chunky ass shoes were around 10 years ago

>>77099986
Where I live there's a running track, so that's my usual go to place, however it's rather flat, so sometimes I run on asphalt to get some elevation from the hills in town. If the weather is super shitty I run on a treadmill.

>>77099986
trails, dirt or gravel roads, or the track
I try to avoid hard surfaces as much as possible

>>77100026
also sometimes loops around a park on the grass although it's a bit boring since no big parks around

>>77099986
European countryside with 50 years old asphalt roads, 200 years old stone paths, some dirt, some gravel, some trail, some of it inside towns and villages where the sidewalk is sometimes as bad as out of them.
Barely see anyone since I don't run on Sundays. It's nice.

I got a HRM 600 to have an accurate reading of my heartbeat for training, I’m 35 so substracting that from 220 and leaving it at 70% means the upper limit for zone 2 training should be 129 bpm, but after actually doing it this feels extremely slow, I was just slightly above the maximum and still doing a 9:40m/km pace.

Is it just me or do you guys go similarly slow? if I just keep going will I go faster at the same bpm? Sorry for the dumb questions I just got surprised by the results.

Park run park run park run lets go

>>77100174
My zone 2 is 6:30 per km .Im in my forties

>>77100174
Are you a beginner? It will take months until you can move fast in lower zones

>>77100193
I've been running over a year and still can't stay in zone 2 unless I'm practically walking. I just run in zone 3, fuck it.

>>77100228
>>77100174
Zone 2 cardio is a meme like squats and oats. Just go for a run and try to run further or quicker each time

>>77100174
>upper limit for zone 2 training should be 129 bpm
Sounds extremely low. Strava gives me this as my bottom zone 2 range. Calculate your zones by max heart rate

>>77100174
I never run zone 2 because it would require me to run at paces I consider pathetically slow and zone 3 still leaves me fresh. So in summary, fuck zone 2. Junk chads rise up

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>>77100269
for example, this is what I consider to be an easy run
unless you are running high mileage you do no need to be shuffling around in zone 2

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>>77100275
here are my most recent runs. I only run every second day. hence low mileage and no need for slow zone 2 runs.
maybe my training is retarded but at least I am a fast retard

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>>77100174
220-age is a population average but has so much individual variation it's useless. You need to do an actual max heart rate test and resting heart rate test and use the Karvonen heart rate reserve method, where zone 2 is 60-70% of the difference between max and resting.
I'm also 35 and have 189 max HR, 52 resting HR, so zone 2 by that calculation is 134-148, which feels pretty accurate.
But it's just as good or better to run by feel or the talk test.

>>77100263
Strava gets zones wrong, it thinks zone 5 is like 97% of max HR. You have to put them in manually.

>15 mile medium roon
>The last 8 miles were into a wind tunnel that was throwing me off the pathway every 30 seconds

What's the best way to get my mileage up? I can't get beyond 20-30 miles a week without being exhausted.

>>77100426
Run slow

>>77098980
Running: Not Even Once.

>>77100426
It took me 5-6 years of running 20-30 miles weekly before I could get past it without getting hurt. Now I do 90 in a week. You just have to keep grinding

>>77058877
Update on my running everyday challenge to motivate everyone, we are not giving up. It's slowly turning into running every other day, but looks like the pros here aren't running that much either so it's ok. I'm on something like 12 runs so far. Will try to keep it up for the next month too.
Legs were hurting, mostly the inside of my shins, tried other shoes, my legs were completely numb. One memorably shit day, I arrive to the park, already see a lot of idiots with their stupid fucking dogs. I run one lap, then one of the dogs runs to me and starts jumping on me and biting me. Still it didn't break me and I finished the run. Next day took a rest day, went to a Scitec shop I've been wanting to, bought an ALA expired in 2024 (that counts as a success for me).
My times have been improving, last week I broke the 30 minute barrier for my usual 4 km. Saturday was my first day I actually wouldn't have the time to run, but then I messed up and missed the next two days too. Then close to 28 minutes, and a colossal PB of 27:36, time to add more laps.
Took another Scitec shop adventure, this time the guy wouldn't give me the expired items even though there were a lot. Then later the cashier in Lidl messed up, had to call the manager and stuff. Troublesome day.
Main thing is, if anyone made it here. Today I ran 5k for the first time in my life. Perfect 28 min split at the usual 4 km, finished 34:50. Almost no pain in my legs anymore. Was in a rush and ate just before, thought I would vomit but I didn't, even took the bus back instead of walking and still didn't vomit. Epic win!

>>77100543
Good work lad. Running every day would have been too much anyway. Can always do other stuff on the non running days like some core work or whatever.

>>77099106
Fair point. I'll ease into it.
>>77099369
I'll keep an eye out if I can get a cheap bike. I appreciate the tip.

>>77099178
corr would nutall over her cunt

there's no such thing as chronic knee pain... right...?

>>77100865
wait till you get the chronic glute pain

Man reading some of these posts is rough. I don't care if you're 40 or overweight if you 'cant get faster' you're fuckin up your plan. Its fine to not get faster but stop blaming other shit just accept your training sucks or try to get better.

>>77101035
The cold fucks with my muscles and stuff. i'll go faster in the summer

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Losing steam... still sore though.
Saw 1 bun, 1 heron, and I think 1 beaver. There was some guy taking photos of it, so hard to tell, but it looked like one had climbed all the way up the embankment from the river.

>>77101035
You should see women post about this. There are tons of them who think they can’t possibly do better than 15 minute miles

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>Regular route closed off for roadworks right at the start of the run
>Do a U-turn and run down the unknown track
>It's also riddled with construction all along
>Not even 2km hit a dead end, no idea where I'm going, might just run back home up this randomly long uphill
>The closed track re-opened not even 10 mins later
>Was too gassed to continue the long run
>Only amassed 12km today
Morning ruined, no wonder I never use that other track.

>>77101141
nah nah nah

a.i. kittingtonshire not it

>>77101035
>>77101105
Mind over matter right boys
Honestly it’s the thing I appreciate the most about running.
I’ve been running for 8 years and still after 100 meters my brain starts trying to find excuses to stop.

>want to go for a nice relaxing bikeride
>Saturday morning sex-haver clubs are out clogging up the bike paths
FUCKING NIGGLES

>>77101197
>bike
This is /roon/
fuck off

>>77101067
You go faster in the summer by building the fitness in the winter. Stop being a soft cunt

>>77101147
diss image is older than ai bubs, + 1km your next run

>>77101488
holy digits m8

>>77101035
based and truthpilled

Where the fuck do I find a plan if I can only run 3x a week.
Can't find shit in the op.
I've been running for a while but I'm not fast, I can do a 5k in less than 24 mins and a 10k around 50 minutes.

>>77101563
What do you mean you can only run 3x a week?

>>77101565
I mean in theory I could run everyday but I travel a lot and empirically I usually manage to run 3 at most 4 times a week

>>77101569
There really isn't much "planning" to be done on 3 days a week. You can bang it in pretty hard every session since you have plenty of recovery time.
Back when I was starting out and only did 3 runs a week I just banged in intervals every day.

>>77101569
Yeah so basically you are making excuses before you even try
Just give up, its easier

>>77101592
Learn what the word empirically means pls
>>77101578
Yeah but what kind of intervals should I bang, like would doing the 3 keys runs from the Norwegian meme in the sticky work? And then when I manage to squeeze in more runs I just run easy

>>77101634
Another anon.
What is your training like now? If you can't do lots then what you do needs to count a bit more if you want to go fast. I have done in the past:

Rolling 2 week cycle: Long run, easy run, easy run, faster run (threshold/3miler fairly quick) easy run, easy run.

Also, alternating:
Long run, short run, not quite so long run, short run, long run (etc.)

Shorter runs are recovery /steady but not quick. Long run is steady, not too easy or too quick (comfy). Shorter long run, bung in 10-15 mins increased pace at the end- 5 mins ease off at end.
Threshold running is magic sauce, helping you tolerate faster paces. Regular but not long distance. Really helps 5 and 10k.
Don't worry about distance covered, look at duration, so 60 mins, 30, 45, 30 etc. Distance will increase as you get fitter. Do a block of harder weeks then have an easy cycle. Rinse, repeat.Finally, listen to how you feel. If you feel crap, ease off temporarily.
Excuse reddit spacing.

>>77101725
>Shorter long run, bung in 10-15 mins increased pace at the end- 5 mins ease off at end.
Meant 10-15 mins faster then 5 mins cool down/easy at end. Phonefagging...

>>77101725
I tried to do long run, intervals, easy and another easy if I can.
Then I tried following my garmin's training plan and that amounts to about the same, where intervals can get replaced by other stuff.

Not sure if this is the place to ask, but does anyone know a good walking pad for a fat guy(260 pounds/120kg)? I'm the usual office slob that keeps dropping running whenever the weather gets bad.
Now my work dictated that we all just figure out this whole AI stuff on our own time, so I won't be seeing the sun for a while. Quitting is not an option so I want to get some exercise in while I'm stuck on the computer. All the stuff I find recommended online cuts off at my weight or only allow a few hours running per week.

>>77101871
Just go outside. Surely you can find 30 minutes in the day to go for a stroll.

>>77101882
That's what I've been doing the last few years and I know myself well enough to know that won't work. Takes only another burst of long hours or some bad of bad weather and I'm out of it again for a few months until I get my shit together. My hope is that the lower barrier of a home device and sunk cost will get me to power through this.

>>77101822
I think in general alternating hard easy is the way to go so might be tempted to do long, easy, intervals, easy etc if you can manage four days. If not, I used to find i recovered from intervals better than long runs , so long, easy, intervals (repeat). Also depends if they are evenly spaced throughout the week or clumped together.
YMMV as ever...

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>>77099829
>gonna attempt squatting 40-60 kg next lifting session
JFC lil' bro you need to start lifting RIGHT NOW if you are to have any hope of fixing yourself. Believe it or not you can run and lift concurrently, it won't kill you.

>knee hasn't hurt the entire today
bros... could it be that after a month and a half... my knee has finally healed!?
i'm probably gonna wait another week before running again but i can't believe it, the human body is truly amazing

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How the FUCK do people enjoy being a cyclist??????

>can jog for hours just fine and enjoy doing it
>weather is getting shitty so no fun jogs
>remember I have one of those old inhouse exercise bikes
>start biking
>legs fucking BURNNNNN despite me being slow and using it for 15 minutes and me only burning like 100 kcal
>sweating like a pig (there is no airflow inside that room)
>can already feel a bit of chafing on my asscheeks
Like holy shit this is actual torture, what is the appeal??????

>>77102392
what's not to enjoy?
>sunshine
>fresh air
>natural heat regulation due to wind speed in summer
>variable terrain
>better pacing due to gear (literal gears) training

It also taught me how to better stretch my groin due to hip tightness, which pumps a huge amount of fresh blood to your testicles and dick for insane dick pump.
Only issue i've ever come across
>stop trying to cycle on actual roads
that shit is autistic, find a trail
>people
the amount of women standing in the middle of parks and trails is absurd, they naturally do this same way they do in fucking stores. it's so fucking annoying
>if you're overweight it's worst than jogging
you think it would be easier cardio, but the amount of weight directly on your sitbones is insufferable at first. it's pretty common for fat people to actually bruise their deep buttocks muscles at first.

Is it weird to run in regular shorts without any underwear?

>>77102421
no that's another autistic thing city faggots do.
i have been cycling for like 30 years and just wear gym shorts, regular shorts, sweat pants. I just wear whatever I want.

granted you're going to have absurd swamp ass and you need to change your pants and air out your groin. like almost to the point of looking like you pissed yourself. so expect to go back home or change asap. underwear actually makes this worse.

Finally am doing differentiated days for sprint training. Did my first proper max velocity day: 30m acceleration and then 50m fly-ins.

Max velocity day is super super fun. Get to go fast but it’s not far enough to get tired. A lot like lifting (ez+fun)

>>77102456
Yes satisfying. I find it takes a few days to get max speed back after an intense speed session. Legs don't feel particularly tired but they just won't turn over as quickly so 210 steps/min vs 240-50 (according to watch). Maybe keep an eye on that - don't need a watch, should be able to feel it - and be careful pushing a speed session if you aren't moving quickly.

>>77102516
I barely have any time to run so get plenty of recovery.

>>77102425
Ron Hill and Sacks both do good runderwear . Non-chafe Lycra for your nuts.

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did the mona again. held the pace pretty well this time. still got made piss though. until nek weekend

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>>77102392
God damn it took me like 18-21 minutes to burn 100kcal going at a steady pace, so I was on that thing for like 2 hours to burn just a measily 600kcal, I was planning on doing 1000 but this thing is somehow brutal on my legs. Can any smart anons explain to me why I fucking SUCK at biking while im pretty good at jogging?

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So I started using a new mental cue when running, pull the leg up with the groin, lean forward and push off with the glute. Kindof like pulling strings attached to my hips. My ITBS went away 100%.

Did I just learn how to run correctly or something?

holy shit i'm so fucking tired, only ate some poptarts today, and it's 7:30 PM already and dark out, but I'm going to run anyway fuck it

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>>77103146
Yeah I knew this wasn't going to be a good one. Oh well. At least I'm losing weight (by not eating and stressing the fuck out).
Didn't see any critters, but I did see a heron flying overhead. It was dark, but I it went in front of some clouds, just a black shadow flapping its wings really slowly. At first, since I was like holy fuck it's a dragon, or mothman, or the jersey devil.
Also saw a cute girl running with some dogs.

>>77102421
I would get crazy chafing if I ever tried that

>>77102421
get a pair of shirts with inner lining. so much better

Started in August at 100kg and could only run 20 secs before gassing, now I'm 89kg and can finally run 10km but my top speed average is 8:49.
I just can't get any faster, it's too tiring and my legs give up after 2km of sustained 7:00 avg. Is it because of the 15kg overweight?

>>77103677
You have not been running for long at all and started from a really low fitness. Just give it more time. Keep doing a mix of easy runs and throw in some faster stuff. Maybe some intervals

>>77103677
it's mental tricks, you've gotten to a point where you need to differentiate your running a little bit - do some days faster but less distance and some days just go for max distance and some days try to stay at the thing you're doing. I find the 10km distance is when you need to start having different goals for your runs to see progress.

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>>77103677
Nope, I did this weighting 97kg, it wasn’t at an easy pace but not quite medium effort. Just keep going at it and lose weight(if it is fat), it’ll become easier.

It's so great to run, wish I had started earlier. I'm slow as fuck still but I gotta keep going.

Which apps do yall use to keep track of your runs or for your running plans?

>>77100174
Is this shit so necessary? I just run, add a lap every couple of weeks and check my times on the celly. A friend of mine got the (cheap) fancy watch and tries to stay in zone 2. He's 2:30 mins/km slower than me but insists it's good because he "stays in zone 2".

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>>77104195
watch out pal, he'll be faster than you in 15 years

>>77104220
These look nice. Saloman used to make the ugliest shoes

Ankle hurts this morning
Guess I tied my shoe laces too tight... again...
How do you guys do it? How tight?

>>77104321
I had a pair of shoes once that would hurt my foot no matter how I tied them. It really didn't make any sense. Must gave been a weird pressure point or something.
All other shoes it makes no difference to me how tight they are. I just go tight enough so the foot is nicely locked in.

>>77104339
I think the trick is getting it tight at the right spot... but whether that's nearer to the toes, somewhere in the middle, or nearer to the ankle... I don't know, and never do, and find out afterward how wrong I was.

>>77104391
I go tighter at the top to lock the ankle in, but not too tight
Looser down towards the toes so you not squashing your foot, but not too loose

>>77103875
tbf kinda annoyed I ran at 5:55 average for 15 minutes longer than you and according to my watch, that was only 900 calories.
Good on you tho.

I run on avg 3 times a week, all about 10 to 12 km.

And all of those are so called "garbage miles", not easy enough, but also not hardcore enough.

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Long roon

How slower is running on asphalt compared to the track?

>>77104710
maybe a couple of seconds per km if it's a flat road with no shit getting in your way

>>77104785
Thanks, I thought it'd be somewhere around 10s/km.

>>77104940
Depends on the route like if you have to cross roads or have tight corners and are weaving in and out dodging stuff. The track obviously has none of these problems that's mainly why it is faster.

>>77099473
God, her legs are amazing. Look at those calves. Goddamn. I love a girl with athletic legs.

Bought another pair of Chinese shoes, this time they are not cheap, not cheap at all.
But slap any Western brand on it, and you will have to pay twice the price at least.

Red Hare 9 Ultra

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Man I am burned out
Saw like 4 or 5 buns today, plus 1 heron, and 1 beaver.

>>77105497
What happened to cause these large gaps of not running every year?

>>77105514
injuries, i tend to fuck up when it starts getting cold out I guess

>>77104220
scifi as fuck

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>>77104940
Much less than that if it's a flat smooth road and mostly straight course, look at the results for a few of the big meets/races, the top times are basically identical between track and road 10k. And if you look at track vs road PBs for elites they're often within a couple seconds of each other for 10k. I don't think it's even 1s/km difference. Road has its own advantages, fewer turns and faster legal shoes.

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On a rest day after 11 days in a row, 6 runs and 5 good gym sessions. I can feel the gains growing inside me.

>>77105519
Could be also that you run on consecutive days without rest as a beginner

>>77105744
Holy fuck she's ugly

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>hit 30
>all of the sudden stomach aches after rooning
it's over brehs

>>77106326
You probably went soon after eating or were dehydrated.

my ankle getting better, gonna squat today
no joogging yet

>>77106094
The past week has been because of unrelated issues (work stuff, not a lot of time for sleep, rest, or even eating...). But in previous years, issues start to crop up in fall/winter. Last Sep, I ran a HM just fine, and then like a month or so later we got a cold snap and I went running without warming up properly, and that's when I started getting pain and had to pause.

Does anybody else get filled with a murderous rage when they have to run uphill into a strong headwind?

>>77107030
no

>Once you can comfortably roon 6 miles/10km
Define "comfortably"
I've managed to run 6 miles before but I definitely felt like I needed walking breaks for at least a few seconds once I got close to the end

>>77107274
Comfortably means you can do it 3x week at zone 2-3. It takes about a year

>tfw no running gf

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>Roon like a maniac 40 miles a week for a couple years
>finally get a gym membership
>go twice a day since no job no more
>finally build leg muscle
>the walk to and fro the gym x2 is like 14000 steps
>enough daily cardio baked in, don't feel the need to run like a maniac anymore
>feet don't get injured anymore
>run a mere mile or two every other day just so I know I still got it
<skin on pinky toes still hurt tho, guess those aren't going to recover from cardiomaxxing with time, will probably need to laser the calloused skin off or whatever

I love running so much but ever since leaving my ex and becoming a single parent, also working and in school, I have no foreseeable possibility of ever running regularly again. That's the only downgrade to my life. I miss running so much. Maybe I can find a babysitter to at least get a weekend run in or something.

>>77108321
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. I don't know your work and living conditions, but maybe you could go for a run during lunch break and make up for the lost time at night? Or maybe if there's enough room at home buy a treadmill?

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>>77106108
Rude.

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2 x (1k,800,600,400)
finally back running on the grass that has been flooded for weeks. love the grass. fuck the roads.

>>77108321
well you can revisit running when your child is old enuff

>>77108678
cant be daein dat session on grass for me

tempo? yeah good

but like faster shidd.is just kinda annoying on grass stops you rooning fast as you could

>>77109095
yeah it's a bit slower but worth it for not beating up your legs.
like bouncing a tennis ball on the concrete compared to grass
you're bouncing your legs off the concrete thousands of times every run

>>77109089
>>77108321
When they're old enough and if they show any interest, take them to an athletics club. Mine went (and got me back training) and are quite good now. Keeps them fit and off the screens - for a few hours at least.

>>77108015
females runners are kinda unattractive anyway

I looped by the local run club as part of today's 18 miler and even though I was there on time, they took 15 extra minutes standing around to get started and totally nuked my gross time. I'm pissed.

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Not great, but felt better than Sunday.
I now wonder if maybe my cadence was too high before. I was often getting over 190. It feels better around 185.
Saw 3 buns, 2 cormorants, and some plump geese down at the park.

>Pinky toe battered and bruised from so much stretching into my home shoes
Guess it's a rest day :(

Why do women run wearing big over ear headphones like Airpods Max? That’s disgusting, they would be ruined from sweat after one run if I did that

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10x3min threshold / 60s jog recovery. About 3'55/km pace on the efforts. Harder workout than I expected tbqh

>>77098980
i did sprint intervals for the first time in about 8 years. i ran 100m in 15 seconds and then woke up the next day and my entire body was sore af like i got hit by a car and my left heel had mild plantar fascitis but my right foot was fine so now i'm worried i might have an asymmetrical form or something. despite the crazy doms i feel great and can't wait to do it again in a couple of days.

>>77110032
and carrying a phone in their hand. absolute pleb behaviour. never mind how uncomfortable it is

>>77098980
sup runners
may god bless u all today on da running
i just took a walk we had sunshien here we are having the sunshine

>>77110421
Today was uncharacteristically hot for the season.
It was nice to run in t-shirt again, though I expect it won't last.

>>77111075
I like the t-shirt and gloves combo. For some reason it feels warmer than t-shirt + jacket , plus it looks cooler

>>77110421
I hate this mushmouthed bongoloid who keeps showing up.

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let's fucking go

>>77111090
Dunno, usually if I'm down to a t-shirt I don't feel the need for gloves anymore.

Do you plan your whole week of training in advance? Maybe Is should. I always have a rough plan but only decide on the specifics on the day. Like tomorrow I have a tempo run but it could be a straight tempo or a fartlek or a progression or maybe even intervals.

>>77111656
I plan on doing the same week for as long as I can. Just if/as I get better, go a bit faster and run a bit more in the same time I guess.

>>77111656
I have a structure I stick to and adjust things when necessary, but in general I have 4 easy runs, an interval run, a progression run, and a long run. I inch up the volume slowly. If I’m out of town and intervals on the track are impossible I replace it with some other kind of intervals like hills. The key is to be structured but flexible

Just moved to an area where my inbred neighbors care more about their inbred dogs than their genetically superior and pure mauling victim (me), and getting chased by these fucking animals while running is a certainty. I have enough money for a treadmill or a gun, which should I get?

Just kidding, I'm here to ask if anyone's tried jump rope purely for exercise. Is it inferior to running? I dunno what to do.

>>77111943
Boxers do it, it’s definitely very good cardio. It might drive you insane staying in one place for that long though. That’s why I like running

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wow anon, you have great cardio. wanna test it out in bed?

>>77111656
I do something similar to Norwegian singles except I'm still working on building overall mileage so I prioritize more mileage over a strict 3 workouts/week and do some doubles. But I'll do 2-3 sessions a week of 10x1k @ 15k pace, 5x2k @ HM pace, 3x3k @ 30k pace with 60s rest and 2-2.5hour progression long run ending at marathon pace every weekend.

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>>77112038
FAAAAAAAT

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>Actually did you know that a 5K is harder than a marat—ACK!

Jeff Galloway has died
F

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Saw 2 buns

>>77112038
phwoar whose diss wenchoid
recognize her

would maraud her asshole

>>77112040
Jesus that's a lot of quality running. No way my body could handle that.

I feel like I run like a fucking retard but I guess I’ll never know because I can’t see myself

>>77112699
i run like a retard on purpose cos i love it. flap the hand around and then when i go really fast I point my fingers out straight and imagine I am the T1000

A long run in ankle-deep snow today. Feel a lot better about it now that it's over

>>77111656
I'm always in a marathon training cycle, so yes.

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>>77111656
So it was meant to be 8 progression but I went too fast so just did 6 with 2k steady at the end. Good enough happy with that.

>>77113105
You were flying there bud

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Tried a workout today where I burned myself on the first half of an out and back and then made the grueling climb back uphill into the wind on tired legs to get home. Not fun lads

>>77100562
Thanks.
Looks like my challenge/experiment is finished, I won't be able to run the next two days. Result: I've gone from couch to 5k or something.
My 5k times didn't improve that fast, stuck around 34-35 minutes. Even did a day where I tried, keeping the usual pace for the first 8 laps then proper run for the last two, still not below 34. Now my legs finally started hurting again, so took it easy and did only 4 km today. 26 minutes so 5k would have definitely been under 34.
Thinking about doing some HIIT kind of sprinting next. We'll see how much i rekt my achillies.

>>77112636
I mean just one of those on a quality day
10x1k or 5x2k or 3x3k
Not all in a day kek

I've just started running again after sitting on my ass for a long time and I'm getting fucking shin splints. How do you guys deal with it?

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>>77098980
rostered day off troonlek

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Good weather today and tomorrow. Gonna do a nice back to back. Had a nice tempo push at mile 8

>>77114404
nice run ˈpēdər

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Horrible cramp in my calf at mile 12 today. I was only supposed to run 12, but I was feeling good and figured I'd just go for 13.1. One step into mile 12 it felt like I got stabbed in the leg. Still trying to massage it out, but I have a race this weekend.

It is fucking bullshit that you have to run like a 2:49 at this point to qualify for Boston but w*men get in with under a 3:15

>>77114547
there is a reason we call it trooning, anon

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>>77114321
>you don’t got shin splints you got sore fucking legs motherfucker!

>>77114977
heel walks back and forward across the room until failure x3, calf raises to failure x3, single leg calf raises to failure x3. 6 days a week.

>>77113900
I know yeah but that's still a lot and with a very long run on top of it.
Not saying it's too much just way too much for someone like me. I know I would never be able to build up to that without getting injured.

>>77114547
Breaking news: men are faster than women

Noob here. Is running on asphalt really that bad?

>>77115095
No it's fine

>>77114547
>2:49
lmao just go do it pussy it's easy

>>77115095
Trails are better if you have that option but just don't do anything stupid and you should be fine. Wear a nice pair of shoes. Recover after runs. Build up your mileage sensibly.

>>77115105
>>77115116
Got it, thank you.

>>77115095
If your form is good and you have proper shoes then no, it’s fine to run on the road.

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>Good marathon runners have S-Tier mental fortitude
>Ultrarunners are mindbroken addicts
Why do mentally healthy people stop at the marathon?

>>77115095
Have you seen those fuckhuge running shoes sold these days? They are for asphalt/pavement running

>>77115665
They don't hate themselves enough.

Another beautiful day for a roon.

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NO EXCUSES FAGGOTS

>>77115958
>He was inspired to start running in 1995 at 31 years old, when he read a newspaper profile of a local 62-year-old runner named Pierre Bernard who had run every edition of the Paris 20K race since 1979. Three days later, El Yamani signed up for his first half marathon and finished in 1:19. Within a year, he was signed up for the Berlin Marathon and ran his debut in 2:35, an auspicious start for the later-in-life runner.
He must have been running since childhood. 2:35 debut after one year. Yeah right. NEXT

>>77116024
The 2:35 is way more believable than 1:19 3 days after deciding to be a runner

>>77116081
he signed up 3 days later, the race wasn't 3 days later

>>77116095
2 weeks later says one article I found

>>77116119
wtf, that's insane natural talent, he must have at least played some football or something

>>77116127
he only went on to run 2:22 at this best. I would expect faster if he was some crazy natural freak. I'd say he probably did other sports alright but couldn't find any info on that

>every day it gets a little easier
Not for me. Its feeling harder lately even though I have now begun to run every day

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>>77114404
Back for round 2
I can be ˈpēdər if you like>>77114405
Longest roon since Dec. I’m looking at a 50k trail in July.

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Felt alright today, still kind of tired. Had some chest pain about 1.5 mi in... Not sure if it was my heart or my lungs. It went away though.
Saw two buns. Also saw a chick with a nice butt, so I guess one could say that I saw four cute buns today. Also saw a whole bunch of ducks trying to cross the trail, but there were too many runners/walkers/bikers.

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>Took just over 2 hours to do this week's 20km
Not running at all for a week does a number on you

>>77116921
another good run, Piotr

>>77115958
whats his whole life pb tho

Marathon tomorrow.
The worst training cycle ever.
>Running in -20C for two months, on slippery roads and in deep snow.
>Longest run just 28 KM.
>Getting cold multiple times.
Unless I get into Boston marathon I'm not doing another winter marathon.

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>>77117152
good luck, anon

>>77116775
>I have now begun to run every day
maybe that's the problem

>>77116775
Progress is not linear, my friend. Just keep doing the good work.
But maybe have rest days every once in a while.

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I'd never ran so far so fast.
Went a bit less than 2km through some shitass uphill muddy/gravel path, that was fun.

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8 x 400
60 seconds recovery

>>77117282
>>77117351
Im not running at full capacity on my rest days. Monday Wednesday and Friday I try to go full distance which for me right now is about 3.6 miles.
On the other days I only run a mile.

Take a day off. That's when the body adapts and recovers and you reap the gains of your training. Particularly important when you are only new to running and the body is not used to it.

>>77117895
When I started running every day I was tired all the time and my training paces didn't improve but then I hit a huge PR after tapering

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I got race shoes. They feel weird

>>77118184
lol they look too padded also they aren't alphaflys

>>77118184
They look like shit. They better be fast to make up for that.

>>77118225
Alphaflys are for posers

>>77118315
All of those $300 shoes are insanely fast if you’re already fast. They’ll make you 10 seconds faster per mile if your form is good

>>77118643
>10 seconds faster per mile

no they wont thats literally insane

corr good sessingtonberg today

16 × 300m

followed by

30 pull up

>>77118714
4% of a 6:50 pace is 16 seconds, and 4% is the high end estimate for how much of a speed boost you get off of the energy return, so 10 seconds is totally reasonable

>>77117877
Nice. Decent 5k due soon.

>>77118735
If your pace is 6:50/mi you need ozempic not supershoes.

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18km on cruise control

/roon/ I need advice:
I get exhausted when running 10min/mi
My comfortable runs are at 14min/mi
Should I take it easy? My goal is running a sub 20 5k by June

>>77118880
Take yourself out of your comfort zone. One can not be comfortable if one wishes to improve.

I run shirtless and have muscle but I have a little too much body fat
Do people think out of shape in-shape runners are rapists?

>>77118880
>>77118888
my easy troon was around 6:30min/km. i started doing some new fartlek thing which has a 5:40-6:00min/km warmup component. i've done it a few times now and low and behold my new easy troon is around 6:00min/km

>>77118880
No way in hell you're getting sub 20 by June if 10min/mi feels hard now. September maybe.

>>77118780
Nigga you aren’t running a sub-3 marathon

Just bomber Tokyo marathon real hard.
Almost shad myself and finished in 3:45.
My absolute worst marathon so far.
When I went to bathroom afterwards I had explosive diarrhea. I don't even feel tired.

>>77119022
Would've had a better time if you shit yourself mid race to lighten the load.

>>77119030
I would not be surprised if my shorts were unironically brown a little bit. Too scared to check.

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Midfoot supremacy
Heel strikers are buffoons

Why do all new running shoes have such thick soles?
I've been using the Asics GT-2000s since high school and recently went to buy a new pair. I found that the current version has a much thicker sole than what I've been used to. Furthermore, it seems every other running shoe I look at also has such a massive thick sole. Is this...bad? I've been using the GT-2000s because they work good for me and I've never had a reason to change but I'm worried that the thick sole will change how they feel.

>>77119167
blame manlets using them for heightmaxxing

>>77119128
Reminder that the natural running gait of the human is the ever humble forefoot strike. Midfoot shitters need not apply.

>>77119167
Makes running on pavement better desu

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>>77119167
Good for me anyway as someone who is injury prone. The chunky foam really makes a difference and saves my legs getting beaten up on the roads. Although I think some of them are way too chunky and unstable. These clown shoes from Puma for example. I would take Adidas one over them for sure.

>>77119167
i dunno it's like fashion or something. ten years ago it was basically barefoot shoes even from nike et al, now it's marshmallowmaxing. The new version asics will not necessarily be optimal for you anymore. Funnily enough the latest vaporflys are basically zero drop flats compared to a lot of recent shoes. For me that's the most comfortable actually. There's a moment where total stack height and drop combines into something unholy that I can't run on anymore. I literally bought vomero plus thinking they would be comfy for easy/recovery and they once hurt so bad i had to walk home after 500 meters. I just took my loss and tossed them after 70km. Don't let them gaslight you into thinking this is just technological progress or something. Definitely try multiple brands in store if you can.

Ran a 5k off the bat two days ago, after not having run for about 2 years at all. Surprisingly, my cardio has somehow not really lost a step. Don't know if it's heavy weight, high rep compound lifts or regular vigorous sex (that I was having before the break up) or what, but I went out and smashed it just as fast as I used to. I thought cardio was easy come easy go?
On the other hand, my calves are in full rebellion. Getting up and down the stairs is brutal.

>>77118184
I also couldn't get into Hokkas. Like they were poking my heels from a weird angle. I guess that's how they wanted to stabilize my ankles, but it felt unnatural.

>>77119429
That bad eh? Where did they hurt? Maybe it was a bad fit or something and not because of stack height?

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HM PB lesgooo

>>77119585
Very nice. How long have you been running

>>77119589
~2 years regularly, but I think I've started training seriously about 6 months ago.

I've been using my bike to go anywhere for as long as I remember, tho, so I already had a good cardio base.

fellow t/roon/s, how do i fight the "tiredness" for the rest of the day after a roon? Is it supplements?

>>77119585
Very good. I need to race a half and see can I break 1:20. I did 1:25 in training once but rarely do more than 8 miles for my long run.

>>77119585
PHWOAAAAR

propa gud arsed roon diss

>>77119429
corr good post diss

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What headphones/earbuds do you guys wear when running? I have older Beats Fit Pro but they're starting to break down and it will soon be time to upgrade.

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Any advice for knee pain? My left knee's bottom left side feels irritated. I hate it because running is the only thing which absolutely cleans my head and I'd hate to stop doing it...

>>77119923
I only use earbuds when running on a treadmill, but for that I have a Skullcandy Dime 3. I'm not an audiophile, but I'm satisfied. Stays in place, sweat resistant.

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I nearly boonked today when my blood sugar crashed from the stupid goyslop gels at the same time I was running slightly uphill into the wind getting cooked by the desert heat

>start doing pic related and make it to the final row
>life stuff comes up and have to take a two week break
>get back to it
>can barely do the first row and when I do it's a struggle
>have done the first run 6 times now with no noticeable improvement
>couldn't even make it to 20 minutes today

What the fuck is happening? Lifestyle, food, etc is more or less the same. Surely I shouldn't be plateauing this hard after such a short break.

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>>77120049
forgot pic

>>77120049
Run slower. Keep at it. I have weird cases where I take a 1-2 week break and those first runs back are agonizing, but after a couple weeks you readjust and can push through.

>>77119429
>>77119167
Slightly tangential, a lot of us that sprint also hate the direction trainers are going and digging around the few online forums you will see questions asking for relatively low stack, low drop shoes and replies bemoaning the lack of choice. The Pegasus used to be the default choice but no longer. Some like the Adios 7, 8 & 9 (I don't think there's anywhere near enough control in the heel) and Kinvaras are back to lower stack again. Meanwhile there is the slightly odd situation of sprinters training in Nike Waffle xc racers as they sort of meet requirements.
Before anyone comments, I don't think many wear barefoot trainers, at least where any kind of bounding/high impact work is involved (I've seen a handful in the last 4-5 years).
Antepes are an interesting development but they're really a sprint spike (minus spikes) for concrete.

>>77119997
>Any advice for knee pain?
strength training and start doing some volume barefoot/forefoot

>>77119466
it was something to do with a weird pinching feeling around my arches i think and they had this sort of rocker that made them feel kinda fast but with the way i land i would kind of be in front of the shoe. Like, i don't rocker from a heel landing forward, i try to land on the forefoot. I remember my foot would kind of be trying to grip in the forefoot area and cramp. I think fit was also an issue because i got them in wide and half a size down from my usual upsize for width. Maybe that kinda tipped me over the ideal rocker position?

I left them sitting for a while before I threw them out but after months of not using them i tried them on for a few seconds and I could barely stand in them. Just really offputting. I guess instead of breaking in they just broke and then I couldn't return them lol.

>>77119752
Anyone?

>>77120424
Eat carbs

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>>77119923
siehausen sports ones. they got different sizes of these wings that lock them into your ears. they go alright.

>>77120049
it happens. i had a stellar run three runs ago. smashed it. felt awesome. the next three runs were awful. puffed out, shins and feet hurt like fuck. no idea why

Post shoe(s), watch, and a PR at some distance. And we judge
>shoe(s)
Superblast 2 (long/easy), EVO SL (tempo/speed), mount to coast H1 (trail), Adios Pro 3 (race)
>watch
COROS Pace 3
>PR
3:11 marathon
>Judge
INB4 fag. I already know that.

>>77120691
novabalst 5's
Coros Pace 3
00:27:34 5k

>>77120691
>shoes
brooks ghost (easy), brooks hyperion (speed), saucony endorphin 4 (race)
>watch
pace 3
>PR
17:4x 5k, 37:5x 10k

>>77120448
But I am, should I load up more before a run?

>>77120691
Dont know
What do i need a watch for
45 mins for 8 km

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When I put on certain kinds of footwear, particularly some boots, I get pain in my right foot. I think it's here with the toe extensors. I reckon that part bulges out and pinches against the boot.
Anyone have to deal with this?
I usually wear barefoot shoes (not the kind with the toes) so I am wondering if my foot is normal in that respect or maybe "overdeveloped" and that is causing the pinch.
Or maybe those boots/shoes just plain don't fit.

Can I just replace my weekly long intervals with sprints if I want a nicer ass? Or even just replace an interval or two with sprints? Or do I need to abandon longer distances and focus on sprinting all the time?

>>77121284
go to the gym and do some squats and lunges you muppet

>>77120691
Reebok not really running shoes, Slazenger $10 shoes
Paearofero from aliexpress
32:59 5k

>>77113801
33 minute barrier broken. We're not stopping! Nice and steady comfortable pace throughout. No pain in legs except for the shoes, calves not even pumped. Loads of people in the park. Everyone on the track got LAPPED!

>>77120954
I get this shit when I do too much barefoot volume. It's like when the calves/achilles get tired the extensors start getting blasted, idk. Went away with rest.

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I am the 32 year old Peaker

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Nice Monday roon

I ran 2km today. Please clap.

>>77122811
Nice work!